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We've come up with a list of our top 10 movie battle scenes - and picked some that really made us cringe. Now, we'd like to hear your best -- and worst -- battle scenes. Don't forget to tell us why.

Email your picks to thescreeningroom@cnn.com and we'll publish the best.

From: Charlie Pajor
Date: 13 April 2007
Comment:
I don't think you've missed any, but your order needs work. Maybe I'm old school, but the skill of actually staging the battles with hundreds or thousands of extras in Zulu and Braveheart clearly trumps the CGI efforts of Peter Jackson in the LOTR films.

From: David Watterson
Date: 12 April 2007
Comment:
i'm not going to waste time on the worst. some of the best i've seen that aren't on the list are...

1. Hell is for Heroes

9/10 of the movie is a squad trying to survive the night on the front lines in Europe in WWII.

During the last 30 minutes of the movie hundreds of American troops storm the German fortifications and it's a blood-bath.

2. Pork Chop Hill

The whole movie is one great, bloody battle. Worth it for the scene when, during a night attack, the Americans are accidently lit-up by their own searchlights. Fantastic movie.

3. The Seven Samurai

The final battle scene between the villagers and the bandits, in the pouring rain, is classic.

4. The Hidden Fortress

I'm adding this because of the battle between the prisoners and the guards. It's hard to believe no one was actually killed filming this scene.

5. The Road Warrior

The battle for the tanker-truck is still a thriller after all these years.

Special Mention. I add Spartacus to this list not for the battle, which is a disorganized mob scene, but for the Roman legion which marches over the hill to battle the rebels. Thousands of Spanish troops were used.

From: Kevin Kinsella
Date: 11 April 2007
Comment:
None of my picks for best and worse are big budget movies but I have to nominate the first fight scene in Green Street Hooligans for one of the best fight scenes I mean who doesn't want to see Elishia Wood get smacked down like the little girl that he is. And for the worst fight scenes and I need to put the emphasis on the plural you have to watch Boon Dock Saints. A great popcorn movie that I love dearly but I have to admit that the fight scenes are horrible at least the director had scene of humor about it.

From: Chris Valencia
Date: 10 April 2007
Comment:
That would be between Mel Gibson and Gary Busey in Lethal Weapon 1 where they fought in the front yard with the helicopter over head and water falling over them

From: Brian Becker
Date: 10 April 2007
Comment:
1. The Siege of Firebase Gloria

I vividly remember the chilling massacre of American wounded and the nurses and doctors as the base was being overrun.

2. Pork Chop Hill

Hamburger Hill was great, but this depiction of the Korean battle was better.

3. Battlestar Galactica - Exodus Pt. 2

The last two battlestars, Galactica and Pegasus, jump into close orbit of New Caprica to rescue the colonists from the Cylon occupation. The Galactica enter sthe atmosphere over the colony while the Pegasus suicidally engages the Cylon baseships guarding the planet.

4. The Devil's Brigade

American and Canadian rangers assault a Nazi-held mountain stronghold in Italy. Heavy casualties don't deter them at all.

5. Midway

The shock and subsequent valor of the Japanese sailors and pilots standing on deck of the last carrier as they watch he other Japanese aircraft carriers burning in the distance. They choose to fight on in a hopeless situation, taking out the American carrier Yorktown before they are sunk themselves.

From: Jeff Williams
Date: 10 April 2007
Comment:
Too bad we are not including 300 here; because the cinematography of the battles was awesome, or series; since Band of Brothers could get a few slots, but here are mine:

SPR - Omaha Beach Landing..I sat two rows behind a couple WWII vets during this....they were terribly shaken afterwards.

LotR: TT - Helm's Deep

LotR: KR - Pelennor Fields

Excalibur - The Final Battle where Arthur and Mordred finally 'embrace'.

Last of the Mohicans - The battle after the British surrender. You could almost feel their fear as the Indians crashed into their lines.

Gettysburg - Picket's Charge and Little Round Top...talk about carnage.

Apocalypse Now - Helicopter Attack

Zulu - The Battle of Rourke's Drift...a classic!

The Last Samurai - The Final Battle ending with the charge against the Gatling Gun

Braveheart - The Battle of Stirling...despite the cheesy speech.

From: Dennis W Smith
Date: 10 April 2007
Comment:
The all-time best battle was the one in 1964's "Zulu" with Michael Caine.

Honorable mention would have to go to the battle for Iwo Jima in John Wayne's,"Sands Of Iwo Jima".

From: Jean-Patrick Poulin
Date: 9 April 2007
Comment:
I am really amazed you missed The bank robery from Heat, that the best scene ever of every movie

Or also the fall of Tony Montana -- scarface

Have you guys been to the movies in the early 90s ?

From: Brian Siano
Date: 9 April 2007
Comment:
I'm sure someone else has suggested _Ran_, but here's one that gets overlooked a lot:

The Battle of Shrewsbury in _Chimes at Midnight_. Orson Welles, shot this on sandwich money, with no more than 100 extras, and he dubbed in every grunts and scream himself. The result was a terrifyingly realistic depiction of medieval warfare that both Kenneth Branagh and Mel Gibson adapted for _Henry V_ and _Braveheart_. It's a sequence even Kurosawa might've envied.

From: Melissa A-V
Date: 9 April 2007
Comment:
There are too many to choose but two of the best are:

1) The Patriot- when Mel Gibson's character kills off the red coats after his son was killed, therefore making him "the Ghost".

2) Also, the entire movie of Final Fantasy: Advent children. Sephiroth is extremely lethal and scary. Even on the game,

The worst:

ALEXANDER. It's pretty bad when you fall asleep so soon during a movie that's supposed to have a lot of action.

From: joe rawlings
Date: 9 April 2007
Comment:
Have you not seen 300? The first push made by the persians made the hair stand up on the back of my neck. I was so awe struck i didn't know whether to cheer or scream or punch someone. To leave this movie out completely in a list about battles is heresy!

But to give another reason other than just sound like a fan boy... I saw you had braveheart on the list, and while one of my favourite movies braveheart lacked in the choeography in my opinion. In 300 it didn't look like choeography, it appeared to me that those soldiers on the screen actually knew how to fight. This was a detail that impressed me about 300.

From: Lance Braun
Date: 9 April 2007
Comment:
There are a lot on this list that I agree with, but I thought I would include a few good ones that may have slipped from our collective memory:

In the late 1970s, there was a made-for-TV version of "All Quiet On The Western Front" starring Richard Thomas and Ernest Borgnine. It had some great battle scenes showing the futility and desperation of trench warfare.

The late 1970s mini-series "Masada" featured Peter Strauss and his band of fugitive Jews fighting the Romans from a hilltop. The sheer scope of the non-CGI effects, including the building of a massive battering ram and ramp, plus the surprising twist at the end, make this one to remember.

Finally, who can forget "Army of Darkness", with Ash (and his chainsaw right hand)and the "primitive screwheads" doing battle with the Army of the Undead? Classic and funny all at the same time.

From: David Whitten
Date: 9 April 2007
Comment:
You overlooked one of the best: Who's Afraid of Virginia Wolfe.

From: Greg L
Date: 9 April 2007
Comment:
In your list of best battle scenes in movies, you somehow completely missed out the Thin Red Line and Kelly's Heroes - both of which have several great battle scenes.

From: Frank Kuschnereit, Ottawa
Date: 9 April 2007
Comment:
Kelley's Heros. A handful of soldiers face 3 tiger tanks that are between them and millions of dollars of German gold. Clint Easwood stared in this often overlooked gem with spectacular stunts and realism. Best line. Don Rickles to Eastwood.: "Do a deal with the Germans. Maybe they are Republicans."

Band of Brothers. Ok, made for TV but the production values exceeded saving Pte Ryan and the story was all true. Every amazing thing portrayed actually happened and they started each episode with an intro by the guys who were actually there and did it. The parachute drop, the battle for the guns, Caraten, and Bastongne were among the best recreation of battles ever with no politics or message thrown in.

The Devils Brigade take Mount Defensia. American and Canadians join together to take a mountain from the rear. Another great battle that actually happened.

From: Gary Haggard
Date: 7 April 2007
Comment:
While I have seen every movie on both your best and worst picks and think you have them listed in the right categories, but perhaps in a

less than perfect order. I would like to add other suggestions for

best battle scenes that I have not seen listed in either your lists or any other post.

1. As perhaps the best aerial battle scene, I would have to offer "Hell's Angels". Here is a movie far before its time and depicts the utter chaos of air battles in WWI.

2. "Gallipoli" is not listed anywhere. What better movie to depict the wasted life's of men in a fruitless charge. As the Australians charge the Turks in what they know is a suicide charge.

3. How can the "Seven Samurai" be left off this list. This movie has inspired so many others. The battle scenes at the end are awe inspiring in that the villagers are inspired by the Samurai to finally step up and fight for themselves.

From: Andrea -- NW Indiana
Date: 6 April 2007
Comment:
Although the bulk of the movie is only so-so, I'm kinda fond of the War of 1812's "Battle for New Orleans" scene in The Buccaneer.

From: Noel Watts
Date: 6 April 2007
Comment:
The list so far was pretty good but some others come to mind that have not been mentioned. The climatic battle in the Wild Geese, the final battle in Dogs of War are both now dated since no CGI was used but impressive for their time. The running battle in 84 Charlie MoPic as the patrol tries to escape is almost too painful to watch. The fight scene of the returning patrol in Go Tell The Spartans. It was brief but so intense.

If we are including Crime Dramas on this list. Should not forget Sonny getting killed in The Godfather or the final shootout in Bonnie and Clyde. Who could omit Kill Bill Vol. I or II. The Bride's fight scene with the Crazy 88 was impressive. As was any other fight scene containing the Bride in either of these films.

Practically any Sam Peckinpah film deserves a mention. The Getaway shootout at the Hotel near the border, two great shootouts in The Killer Elite. Even Dustin Hoffman can be tough in a Peckinpah film.

The remake of the Getaway even had a decent Hotel shootout. The attack on the drug boat in the Usual Suspects impressive. The Victory motel shootout in LA Confidential it was impressive. The IRA ambush of the some arresting officers in The Devil's Own. The bar scene shootout in Desperado. Another Hotel shootout in Way of the Gun. James Cann's final shootout in Thief is now dated but was impressive when first released.

From: Matt
Date: 6 April 2007
Comment:
O.K. I read the list and I read the comments. The battle scenes in "The Last Samurai" can not be anywhere near the top 10 or in the "one of the best" category. "Ran" and "Seven Samurai" both have amazing battles scenes but to really appreciate great Battle scenes, you have to watch "Ten to Chi to" or "Heaven and Earth" by Haruki Kadokawa. The last 40 minutes of the movie is dedicated only to 7th battle of Kawanakajima plain and the action and fight sequence is nothing you will see in any samurai epic -- not even "Ran".

From: jky
Date: 5 April 2007
Comment:
Classics: The battle scenes in The Seven Samurai; the final scene in Sanjuro (explosion of chocolate syrup.)

Classic to be: Blackhawk Down: Delta Force operators Gordon and Shugart sacrifice themselves to protect the injured Mike Durant

Worst fight scenes: Too many to mention, though the Top Gun aerial scenes stand out (ACM with 25 foot separation?)

From: Daniel Callahan
Date: 5 April 2007
Comment:
I'm very surprised that Black Hawk Down did not make the list. It's interesting to see the setup of this movie as a contrast to Saving Private Ryan. Wheras Ryan was two intense battle scenes framing the bulk of the story, Black Hawk is the inverse of an intense battle being framed by two segments of (essentially) exposition. It is, to this day, one of the two movies i have left being physically tired...

...the other being Crimson Tide. I have always found the sub battle that takes place soon after X.O. Hunter takes command to be one of the most harrowing battles I've ever watched. What it lacks in sheer action, it more than makes up for it in the intensity of two subs playing cat and mouse with each other 100 fathoms down. The deathly silence as the Alabama gradually sinks towards its crush depth and the sacrifices made to save the sub stayed with me long after the movie faded from memory.

Simply put, the bank shootout in Heat will be the gold standard by which all Hollywood shootouts will be compared to for a long time. Others have detailed this much more eloquently than i can

Finally, though not technical masterpieces by any means, the attack of the Army of the Dead in Bruce Campbell vs. The Army of Darkness and the final battle in Stephen Sommers' "The Mummy" are great combinations of fun, action and brooding faux-machismo portrayed as only Bruce Campbell and Brendan Fraser can do. The sheer ridiculousness of Ash and O'Connell during these fights make them very memorable long after the rest of the movie has faded from memory

From: Eric O'Brien
Date: 4 April 2007
Comment:
Don't forget about the epic battle between the Romans and the slaves in Kubrick's Spartacus! The sense of doom when you see those blocks of Roman's coming down the hill is truly frightening. As well, Troy, the battle between the Trojans and the Greeks is very under rated. Though Troy was not a commercial success, I found the battle scenes (especially Achilles and Hector) to be fantastic.

Worst?

I would probably say the battle between the aliens and the U.S. air force in Independence Day. Talk about some hokey fluff! Like the president would be allowed to fly a fighter? LOL

From: DJ Barone
Date: 4 April 2007
Comment:
My Votes:

The adventures of Robin Hood: Errol Flynn vs. Basil Rathbone

The Princess Bride: Cary Elwis vs. Mandy Patankin

From: Philip H. Azarian
Date: 4 April 2007
Comment:
Some others "Among the Best:"

Longest Day: The assault by Free French forces with sweeping camera pans over the entire harbor

March or Die: Set battle at the end between beduin's and Gene Hackman's legionnaires.

30 Seconds Over Tokyo: The Doolittle raid from take off to the crash of "The Ruptured Duck". Riveting, accurate and hardly any dialogue.

El Cid: Citadel Battle

Fall of the Roman Empire: Opening battle between Visigoths and Romans the basis for the battle in "Gladiator"

Cromwell: Great set pieces of pivotal battles in the English Civil War

The Blue Max: Ground attack dogfight

Captain Horatio Hornblower: HMS Lydia vs. Natividad sea battle

Master & Commander: Boarding action

All Quiet on the Western Front: the whole movie

55 Days at Peking: Chuck Heston holding off the Boxer Assault on the Foreign Compound

Khartoum: Mahdi battle in the beginning and fall of Khartoum

The Lighthorsemen: Taking of the town by the lighthorsemen

The Sand Pebbles: Gunboat "breaking the boom"

Bataan:Hand to hand battle in the jungle

Battle of Britain: "Adler Tag" dogfight at the end

Worst:

"Midway" - - shameless use of stock footage and scenes from other films to depict everything from the Doolittle Raid, the Battle of the Coral Sea, and all phases of Midway.

From: SteveJ
Date: 4 April 2007
Comment:
This list has specificly left out all of your selections, though a couple were right on the mark. Namely Saving Private Ryan, and Braveheart. It seems your number one selction was more politicaly motivated than artisticly. Apocalypse Now had a few nice scenes that also included battle, but nothing on the scale of many of the movies on your own list.

1. We Were Soldiers Once : I had to read about twenty posts before I came across the fist mention of this movie. As for the scenes, pick any as it portrays one entire battle over a period of days. The best however might be the final charge with bayonets as the Americans break through the line.

2. Blackhawk Down: This film recieved more respect from the other people contributing their personal lists. It, as the film above, depicts one long battle with several mini dramas. The best might be the depiction of the two Delta Force snipers who died in the line of duty trying to protect the downed pilot untill help could arrive, both won the CMH posthumanisly. The second is the attack on the convoy led by Tom Sizemore. The last is the portrayal of the "Mogadishue Mile" as the last remaining Rangers and Delta troopers had to actually run out of the city.

3. Last of the Mohicans: Probably the most brutal battle in this movie is the ambush of the retreating British colum. There was plenty of massed charge and solo action. It is also hard to leave out the final fight on the cliff.

4. Enemy at the Gates: I have not seen this movie mentioned at all!! The depiction of the battle of Stalingrad was fantastic right down to the Soviets handing one man a rifle and the next ammunition, and then turning machineguns on them to keep them from retreating. The sniper duals are great as well, and for the most part were relativly accurate.

5. Willow: This is a departure from realistic movies, but the battles are fantastic especially the final siege of the evil Sorceress. Easily one of Val Kilmers best movies.

6. Heat: The running gun battle after the robery is one of the best ever set to film. It realy made you feel sorry for the unprepaired police first responders.

7. The Last Samurai: This movie had a couple of great battles. The first was where Tom Cruise was captured in a crushing defeat of Imperial troops. The second was the final charge of the Samurai into the teeth of a much better prepared Imperial Army.

8. Platoon: This movies best battle scene had to be the end sequence as the Americans were being over run.

9. Star Wars Episode 3: The battle at the end of the movie where the newly formed clone army is first tested out on the Droids and the other fleeing aliens is truely fantastic. Its by far the best large scale land battle in any SW movie to include Hoth, though thats a close second.

10. Kingdon of Heaven: There were a couple of outstanding battles in that movie. The first being the slaughter of the Templars followed by the siege of Jerusalem.

From: Kevin McCoy
Date: 4 April 2007
Comment:
You go to all that trouble to blast the Star Wars saga's Battles of Endor and Naboo as among the worst in movies (and deservedly so), but fail to list The Empire Strikes Back's Battle of Hoth as among the best?

For shame! Need I remind you...Imperial Walkers, fighting in the snow, Luke Skywalker single-handledly taking down a walker, the rebels getting their butts handed to them by Darth Vader? It should at least get an honorable mention.

From: Jim Norcross
Date: 4 April 2007
Comment:
After reading your article I feel compelled to add my list:

1. The Last Samurai - The last stand of the Samurai was portrayed so well. Katsumoto's final decision to take his own life and preserve his honor at the end of the battle is a scene that in my view will be legendary in years to come.

2. Saving Private Ryan - The Omaha beach battle was beyond belief. I had never seen a battle so expertly portrayed on screen prior to seeing this film. The realism was beyond my expectations and remains unmatched by any film prior or since.

3. Return of the Jedi - The Sail Barge Battle - Probably one of the best battles in the Star Wars saga was the final showdown with Jabba the Hutt. As Luke walks the plank above the Sarlac Pit and John William's orchestration swells, the fight is on to overcome seemingly insurmountable odds and complete the rescue of Han Solo. When one watches all 6 Star Wars films together, you at long last get a sense for the importance of this battle in telling the entire story. It represents the TRUE moment where the Jedi make a triumphant return.

4. Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers - The battle for Helm's Deep - In a film that, in my oppinion, far surpassed "300" in showing an army of few standing strong against a horde of thousands in a convincing way, director Peter Jackson brings to life a battle that will forever be burned in to the memory of a generation of movie goers.

5. The Phantom Mennace - Obi-Wan Kenobi & Qui Gon Jin vs. Darth Maul - While the surrounding 'battle for Naboo' is rather luke-warm, the fight between the two brave jedi and the evil sith lord was more intense than any lightsaber fight that had come before it....which leads us to #6.

6. Revenge of the Sith - Yoda vs. Emporer Palpatine - While we were teased with Yoda's first throw down in Attack of the Clones, his battle with the Emporer in the final prequal was far superior and far more cool!

From: ukp911
Date: 4 April 2007
Comment:
I think that you can not leave off the battle for Little Round Top in Gettysburg, as well as Pickett's Charge. Also, you should The Thin Red Line...

From: Kevin Wildman
Date: 4 April 2007
Comment:
I can't really rank my suggestions, as they all deserve merit in their own right, however I do have a few that I feel should have been added.

- "Blackhawk Down" - If not just the first segment where they enter the town, then definitely when they are defending off the downed chopped in the middle of the intersection. The way the movie puts you into modern day urban combat is amazing. Plus you have the little birds raining down a shower of bullets. The whole movie is one great battle scene

- "300" -- The cinematography on this movie was perfect. Aside from it being a great story, the way it was filmed gave you a better sense of what was happening. It motivated, excited and overall made you feel good to see the Spartans fighting off the Persian army so well.

- "The Patriot" -- The scene where Mel Gibson attacks the group of red coats after they take his son hostage. The whole movie was full of great smaller battles, but to see him take on the whole group by himself, was impressive.

- "The Matrix" -- Not sure if it is the 2nd or 3rd, but when Neo battles all of the "Agent Smiths", not just on the playground after speaking to the Oracle, but also in the rain on the street. Great special effects and lots of hand to hand fighting.

From: W. Williams
Date: 4 April 2007
Comment:
"Saving Private Ryan"

Kurosawa's "Ran" The attack on the Kings compound. As the horde of Japanese warriors attacks on the outside the king's castle is shown on fire inside, while his concubines commit suicide.

"The Empire Strikes Back", Battle on Hoth the Ice Planet

"Black Hawk Down", The initial assault on the Somali City

Michael Mann's "Heat", The LA bank shootout.

Bruce Lee, "The Chinese Connection" the ass kicking in the Heroine lab.

"Spartacus", the riot and escape from Capua

"Ben Hur" The sea battle of the Roman Fleet against the Macedonians

From: Steve, FL
Date: 4 April 2007
Comment:
When I saw the list, I kept looking for what I think is the best. Couldn't find the final battle scene from Sam Peckinpah's Wild Bunch on the list. This one changed how all the future battles (all those on the list) would be filmed from the slow motion, angles, perspectives. Just a classic.

From: Edwin Hines
Date: 4 April 2007
Comment:
It is hard to disagree with many comments, but as a combat veteran of Viet Nam, I think the depiction of the attack on Marye's Heights during the battle of Fredericksburg in the film Gods and Generals, exacerbates the horror, futility, and waste of close combat. Thousands of young men, charging through horrific artillery fire and then standing only yards apart to shoot .50 caliber muskets at one another, depicts the same sense of desperation as does the D-Day landings of Saving Private Ryan eighty years later.

From: Ashley Evans, British Columbia
Date: 4 April 2007
Comment:
I would have to include Das Boot in there the tension In the german uboat is palpable you feel like youre in there with them waiting for those frigates to pass over you or waiting for the torpedo to hit. It is awesome. I also would include the battle of bastogne in Band of Brothers Band of Brothers is a masterpiece in my opinion.

From: Ashley Evans, British Columbia
Date: 4 April 2007
Comment:
Forgot to add Gallipoli a great war movie out of Australia with a young Mel Gibson has some great battle scenes in it too

From: Predrag Terzioski
Date: 4 April 2007
Comment:
Best ever made Yugoslav movie about the epic battle of Neretva.

Directed by former partisan colonel and TITO's personal favourite movie director Veljko Bulajic, featuring stars like Kurt Jurgens, Franco Nero, Hardy Krugger, Orson Wells, Yul Brynner, Sergej Bondarchuk and the best that Yugoslavia could have offered at the time.

Money was no issue since the movie was financed directly from the state defense budget (one of the highest in the world at the time).

45,000 Yugoslav Peoples Army men took part in the shooting of the mass scenes together with 300 aircraft, 1200 tanks, 4700 horses etc.

The German and Ustasa (Croat fascist) attack on the partisan hospital is definitely ranking among 10 best battle scenes of all time.

From: Brian Smith
Date: 4 April 2007
Comment:
G'day. I was always impressed by the very realistic battle scenes from the telemovie set during the Falklands War - Tumbledown. Anyone remember that? Assault of the Scots Guards on Tumbledown, where Robert Lawrence got a bullet through the head. A night attack stripped of all Hollywood battle conventions, 66s into sangars, and a nasty bayonetting. Chilling.

I'll also nominate the shortish close quarters ambush scenes in The Odd Angry Shot. Pared back, brief, violent, half-snatched glimpses in the jungle.

From: R. G. Sims, TX
Date: 4 April 2007
Comment:
I agree with some of the selections - A Bridge Too Far, Saving Private Ryan, and Zulu. But I think that several more movies should have been considered. I think that the ariel battles in the Battle of Britain are some of the best, as are the scenes in both versions of All Quiet on the Western Front.

The climatic battle of Isandhlwana in Zulu Dawn (a prequel of Zulu) shows how desperate the British 24th Regiment tried to hold out against the attack of the massive Zulu army.

Codetalkers also had some very good battle scenes, as does Waterloo, The Green Berets, and Gettysburg.

From: Jared
Date: 4 April 2007
Comment:
The final battle in Platoon and the storming of the gun battery in The Thin Red Line are glaring omissions. Band of Bros is chock-full of battles that belong on the list (Normandy, Operation Market Garden and Bastogne spring instantly to mind).

From: Sue, MI
Date: 4 April 2007
Comment:
I had to read through almost all the comments before I came across Aaron who mentioned the Band of Brothers series. I'm almost certainly not in their demo but that series is so good that it's near the top of my all-time favorites. I can't imagine that I would ever be caught on the front line, but if I did, I have a feeling that it would be like that.

That's what makes a great battle scene to me.

I am also a big Tarantino fan and I think he usually has some great battle scenes, although not of the epic of a lot of the movies previously mentioned. One of my favorites is in Dusk til Dawn, in the bar right after they close the doors and it doesn't end until the movie does.

As for worst - anything with Steven Segal.

From: Diane Leiter
Date: 4 April 2007
Comment:
I think you did a really good job and agreed with most of it. Only one disagreement, and that's about your comments on Pearl Harbor. Come on. If you wanted to see a documentary on the attack, Tora, Tora, Tora is your best bet. But, in order to humanize that event and bring it home to millions of us who lost family in that horrendous war, building it around a love story was the best idea ever. Don't get me wrong, I was impressed with Tora, Tora, Tora, but deeply involved in and touched by Pearl Harbor. Ben Affleck or not.

From: George Vazquez
Date: 4 April 2007
Comment:
Gojoe (200): A beautiful film with some amazing sword battling. The second battle where the "Demons" first show their faces is amazing. They slice through people like they are pieces of paper. There is short sequence, about a minute or two, where the camera focuses on the main "demons" face as he slices through soldier after soldier. His face is expressionless and the only motion you can see is that of his shoulders and that of blood flying in the air. The entire movie is awesome, but the first few battles are magnificent.

Shaolin vs the Wutang opening battle sequence: No other martial arts fighting sequence compares to this movies opening sequence. One man dodges sword after sword, sometimes dodging a sharp blade by centimeters. The choreography is far superior to modern martial arts sequences where editors go mad and slap together 2 second clips of fists flying and faces squirming in what amounts to no continuous motion. This opening sequence alone is reason enough to watch this movie.

From: Gabby, VA
Date: 4 April 2007
Comment:
I agree that Black Hawk Down should be on the list for the best. Why on earth is Gladiator number 10? It should be higher. And to not mention anything from a Seven Samurai does shame to the entire list seeing as it's the blueprint for all action films.

How about the one man battle that was the closing scene in Commando? Or even John Woo's gun battle in the classic "The Killer" staring Chow Yun-Fat. Not all battles happen on fields.

From: Andre Gibbs, N. Carolina
Date: 4 April 2007
Comment:
I enjoyed reading your list. A little top heavy on recent films but still a sound list

I would replace 'Tora Tora Tora' and 'Zulu' with:

(1) 'Last of the Mohicans' (ambush scene and/or fight b/w Magua and Chingachgook); (2) Major Dundee (crossing river back to US).

honorable mention: The Alamo (final attack of Alamo - John Wayne film version); Captain Blood (final ship battle, Errol Flynn) -

Worst fight scene (and my pick for one of the top ten worst movies) - The Conqueror with John Wayne. worst battle scenes, worst costumes, worst casting of actors.

Thanks for sharing

Andre Gibbs

Cary, North Caroli

From: Alex Smith
Date: 4 April 2007
Comment:
I believe the #3 battle scene should have been the U.S. attack on Guadalcanal in the film THE THIN RED LINE. The battle scene contrasts with the Normandy landing in SAVING PRIVATE RYAN in the fact that the Guadalcanal attack comes 45 minutes into the film. Quiet suspense builds as the troops land on the beach to no resistance. Halfway across the island the troops come upon a hill guarded by five hidden machine guns. The slaughter that ensues is horrifying. There is a great shot of Jared Leto's characters face when an officer signals him to move ahead. He shakes his head side to side with wide eyes; unforgettable.

From: Bruce Shepherd
Date: 4 April 2007
Comment:
Hi there. There seems to be a lot of cross-referencing of battle scenes in many of the comments here but let's think outside the box for a minute and what I mean here is the downtown shoot-out scene from Heat after the bank heist goes wrong. This is a classic example of small-unit action, filmed from the perspective of the unit. It is great cinema, sort of like Gunfight at the O.K. Corral meets Blackhawk Down. Good guys being bad guys shooting the good guys who are only doing their job to get the bad guys. Don't you just love Hollywood?

From: James David Watkeys
Date: 4 April 2007
Comment:
Considering you are THE MOST TRUSTED NEWS SOURCE. I am totally astounded to go to your site and read comments about movies. To find Star Trek mentioned and the CNN RESPONSE I AM A FAN OF BOTH.(obviously not a very informed fan) Yet still nothing in regards to the Wrath of Kahn. This movie grossed more money than any other Star Trek Movie in the franchise. As for trekkies the shows might be off ,but the fans are alive and well and we aren't going anywhere.

From: Jodi Vetter
Date: 4 April 2007
Comment:
A few Best battles you forgot:

Star Wars Episode Three: Obi Wan vs. Darth Vadar (Anakin)-- how could you forget the longest sword fight to date?

Star Wars Episode Four: Space battle

Star Wars Episode Six: The EWOK battle sucked, agreed there, but what about the Epic battle between Luke Skywalker and Darth Vadar, or the space battle was pretty good too

Braveheart: Battle of Stirling

Worst--

ITA on the Star Wars Episode 6: EWOK battle

From: Jae Yu
Date: 4 April 2007
Comment:
Dear CNN,

You guys suck! It looks like anything before 1976 was completely disregarded. I agree with Erik Freymuth that you exclusion of Akira Kurosawa's masteful battle sequences in SEVEN SAMURAI and RAN clearly indicates that your list is a joke. Get thee to a video store and get a clue!

Some of the best:

-SEVEN SAMURAI (the final climatic battle is a guidebook on how to choreograph and shoot a battle with all the emotional and physical turmoil and ebb and flows that comes with it.)

-RAN (You want to see the terrible beauty and horror of war? Open your eyes and see the razing of the castle accompanied by the haunting Noh flute

music)

-Kenneth Branagh's HENRY V (Before BRAVEHEART or GLADIATOR or 300 or any other frenzied, incoherent and sloppy battle sequences, Branagh showed the grim-&-dirty face of pitched battle...)

-GETTYSBURG (the sheer tedious terror and frenzy of battle. "Hurry up & wait" indeed!)

-INTOLERANCE the Babylonian sequence (If you love the Battle of Helm's Deep so much, watch the original battle sequence by D.W. Griffith that Peter Jackson ripped-off for THE TWO TOWERS. Yes, Griffith was a racist, but that s.o.b knew how to shoot; with a cast of literally thousands and set built to SCALE with nary a CGI in sight!)

One of the Worst:

-13th WARRIOR (the final climatic battle was a masterly display of cinematic disappointment. Shows you that Michael Crichton should never direct anything and should have left it in the capable hands of John Mctiernan.)

From: Meg
Date: 4 April 2007
Comment:
In the same vein as another person's post, the best *animated* fight scene I've ever seen was in the Fullmetal Alchemist movie, with the scene between Wrath and Gluttony. That and just about every scene in Final Fantasy: Advent Children.

From: Mike
Date: 4 April 2007
Comment:
Now, of the scenes listed by other viewers all of them were really good. Any of the modern day WWII movie battle scenes are really good. But, I believe Oliver Stone started it all with Platoon. Spielberg, made it better with Saving Private Ryan. But there are some scenes or movies that were highly underated. Films such as Kingdom of Heaven (The Siege of Jerusalem sequence). For those who saw the theatrical release probably thought the movie sucked. I guarantee this, you'll appreciate the movie more if you watch the extended cut of the film. Just like the Lord of the Rings Trilogy, the extended cut improves upon what people saw in the theaters. Now the battle scenes in Oliver Stones Alexander were really good especially The Battle of Gaugamela. Other movies with really good battle scenes are Flyboys, The Matrix Revolutions, the space battle scene from Serenity, Band of Brothers, and the HBO series Rome as well as Cold Mountain, The Great Raid, and the gun battle scenes in Tears of the Sun. There are so many movies to choose from. Movies that are highly underated. If you know anymore let me know.

From: Bryan Moore
Date: 4 April 2007
Comment:
Without a doubt the Number One battle scene of all time is the final shootout in "The Wild Bunch". It is a cinematic masterpiece, especially considering the year in which it was filmed. The sequences with William Holden and Ernest Borgnine operating the machine gun against the bandoleros while dodging return fire are riveting.

The opening sequence in The Wild Bunch with the robbery mixed in with the Temperence Union march could easily fit in at number ten in the list.

From: Kevin O'Beirne, New York
Date: 3 April 2007
Comment:
A number of comments tend to revolve around very recent films. While I agree that, in general, Hollywood has gotten a lot more realistic in its depiction of combat, it often also tends to sell out anything resembling realism and historical accuracy. That said, here's a few considerations for what I view as some good "battle scenes", in no particular order:

Waterloo, 1971 -- The charge of the Scotts Greys into the French line and, later, New's (French) cavalry charge into the British squares. Twenty-thousand extras and hundreds, if not thousands, of horses. Perhaps the most visually stunning war scenes ever committed to film. There's just something about the martial ardor of hundreds of horses thundering through an enormous cavalry charge...

The Longest Day, 1961 -- This huge, epic war film has many memorable scenes, but the two that jump first to mind are the Luftwaffe fighters flying over the beach while thousands of extras swarm around hundreds of beach obstacles below, and the overhead helicopter shot in which French soldiers attack a town near the end of the film.

Black Hawk Down, 2001 -- The night-attack of the "little birds" helicopter gunships on the Somali militiamen, and the climatic depiction of the "Mogadishu mile" constitute excellent war-filmmaking.

Kingdom of Heaven, 2005 -- Ridley Scott can create some great combat sequences; whether some of his films are more fantasy than fact is another matter. This one, particularly the "director's cut" (available only on DVD) is one of his better ones. The siege of Jerusalem, while relatively short in terms of onscreen time, eclipses "Return of the King" in terms of visual scope and CGI quality for swords-and-spears battles.

Lawrence of Arabia, 1962 - The Arab cavalry charge into Aquaba.

Zulu, 1962 -- It's difficult to beat this film for overall combat action, despite the fact that the film's epic climax is pure Hollywood and the real battle didn't end that way.

Saving Private Ryan, 1998 -- It's difficult to exclude the D-Day landing as depicted in this film from any such list as this.

Band of Brothers, 2001 -- Arguably the best overall war film ever made, this epic has numerous memorable battle scenes, including the attack on German artillery at Brercourt Manor on D-Day, the assault on and defense of Caretan in Normandy, combat along the Rhine in October 1944 ("the fight on the dike" for those who have seen it), and the assault on Foy, Belgium (January 1945) are all extremely well-done.

Das Boot, 1981 -- This is probably the best submarine film ever made, but its climatic sequence, when Allied aircraft bomb the U-boat pens at St. Nazaire, France, destroying the U-boat and killing most of the film's characters, is well-filmed and deserves mention on this list.

Honorable Mention: American Civil War combat is rarely depicted well onscreen, but a "nice try, you almost got it!" goes to the battle of the Crater sequence in Cold Mountain (2002) and the assault on Battery Wagner in Glory (1989).

Honorable Mention 2: In a nod to the swabbies out there, the final battle and hand-to-hand combat in Master and Commander: Far Side of the World (2003) is very well-done; overall this film is a great depiction of the age of bronze guns, tall ships, and iron men.

Honorable Mention 3: These don't really fall into the classification of "great combat scenes" but I just can't help mentioning the opening and closing battle scenes of one of my favorite films, Kelly's Heroes (1970). Good kit, real destruction, popular actors, and a lot of good-natured "fun".

There's many good war films, but this list is limited to "good battle scenes".

Heck, there's many others, but...

From: John
Date: 3 April 2007
Comment:
Wow! Have any of you ever seen a Pre-CGI movie?

CNN has it right with SPR and Apocalypse Now, but some of the other stuff?? Please. LOTR? Give me a break! CGI galore!

With all the hundreds of films made depicting battles, it would seem some of them could should be on this list if this is truly the"Best Ever"

Only a few viewers mentioned air battles. Watch Wings from 1927 or Hell's Angels from 1930.

Real airplanes, on film, not a pixel to be found.

From: Cherie Sauer
Date: 3 April 2007
Comment:
I think Blackhawk Down certainly should be included here -- and above Starship Troopers. Starship Troopers really emphasized that ground troops are "disposable" and I imagine this is why it was included. But Blackhawk Down, one of my least favorite movies, created what I think was a hysterical reaction to the constant, endless gunshot sounds--being forced into complete insensitivity to the surroundings and the action. I repeatedly had to close my eyes and cover my ears and all I really wanted to do was leave the theater. After a bit, I just slipped into a daze and watched the movie as if part of an astral projection. In addition to that, the waste of life in rescue attempts distressed me and yet, I couldn't help understanding why they had the code it gave everyone behind enemy lines the hope of being rescued. Too powerful to watch twice.

From: clmurph1
Date: 3 April 2007
Comment:
One of the best battle scenes I've ever seen was in an extremely powerful Korean film called Tae Guk Gi. While most probably haven't seen it, I highly recommend doing so. The final battle scene pits brother against brother in an emotional, heart-wrenching fight. I don't want to spoil the movie, so I will refrain from giving any more details. However, I will say that this made me shed a tear. NO movies make me cry--and I see a lot of depressing movies. Tae Guk Gi combines epic battle scenes with raw sentiment, and its product is nothing short of stunning.

From: Michael Dorosh, Alberta
Date: 3 April 2007
Comment:
The Best:

The Bridge at Remagen (1968, United Artists)

Ben Gazzara and George Segal fight it out with war weary Germans led by Robert Vaughn in a trio of understated performances. Using historically correct equipment for the period, this dramatic tale - based on the real life story immortalized by Army historian Ken Hechler in his non-fiction book of the same name - plays out against the backdrop of a crumbling Third Reich. The bridge is the last one standing over the Rhine River, the last barrier to Allied advance into Germany. The fighting is up close and personal between small groups of men; the Germans, ordered to blow up the bridge by Hitler, but told to keep it open by their immediate superiors, are fighting a no-win situation against superior American forces, who are so disenchanted with their own leadership that they are on the brink of open mutiny. The film won an Academy Award for sound effects; the whine of bullets zinging off the metal bridge punctuate the inch-by-inch struggle down the span, while German enginee rs wait patiently to blow it up underneath them.

The worst:

Battle of the Bulge (1968)

Using obviously rented Spanish Army equipment, this laughable retelling of the Ardennes Offensive of 1944 manages to take just about everything out of historical context. The offensive in poor weather through a forest is photographed on Spanish plains in bright sunlight. A medieval charge by Robert Shaw's tanks - lined up bogie-wheel to bogie-wheel - is only one example of how the directors drained any hint of actual military tactics and practices from the film. Powerhouse actors such as Shaw, Henry Fonda and Robert Ryan couldn't save the film from the cartoon antics of Telly Savalas (driving a roofless tank similar to what Sherrif Buford T. Justice would do much better with his police car in Smokey and the Bandit) and James MacArthur. The battle is miraculously won by the standard 1944-era military tactic of rolling drums of gasoline at advancing tanks. Execrable isn't the word. Even Charles Bronson's posturing and mumbling couldn't save this film.

From: Chris Wayne
Date: 3 April 2007
Comment:
I can't say that any that I have seen mentioned should be on the worst list.

Well, there are a few :-). Those that list the movie on the best list have reasons that are clear. Those that list the same movie on the worst list, seems like they are focusing on the wrong part. No Hollywood battle scene is ever perfect. It depends on how accurate it is and if it needs to stretch some portion of it, then how does it make you feel? Some of the movies that came to mind...

Gunga Din --

Final battle scene. How the British order of battle lined up at just a bugle call. The use and mix of different units (infantry, cavalry, artillery).

Sergeant York --

Final battle scene. Just seeing the recount of York's action to take out the machinegun nests

Operation Petticoat --

How can you not enjoy "Sighted freighter, sunk truck"!

Run Silent, Run Deep --

Two scenes. How they dealt with the DD and then the SS.

They were expendable --

The Torpedo runs were fine, but it was the way the movie made you feel. As if you were there. Running out of time, supplies and hope. The scene to rescue McArthur returned a bit of that hope.

Ba Ba Black Sheep --

The new air combat scenes were enjoyable, but got old fast as stock footage.

Final Countdown --

Just the idea of having a modern carrier taking on six WWII carriers.

Seeing the jets zoom past the zeros (er T6s) and then the Japanese pilots trying to adapt to get a good shooting angle.

From: Robert G. Pielke, Ph.D.
Date: 3 April 2007
Comment:
The defense of Little Round Top in Gettysgburg should have been near the top of your list. The shocking brutality that resulted from the clash of ancient tactics vs. "modern" weaponry was brilliantly portrayed. Most amazing of all was the desperate dedication of both side to their respective "causes."

Now...the best sword fight??? Glad you asked! ROB ROY!!! [hands down!!]

From: Gerry C. Mattia
Date: 3 April 2007
Comment:
Best Battle Scenes

Not sure how this one was overlooked: "Das Boot" -- the claustrophobia creeps up on you just on the title alone. . . 'nuff said.

From: Kevin McCarney
Date: 3 April 2007
Comment:
First off here are some of the best Battle Scenes and there are more than ten I am just naming the ones I have enjoyed over the years.

The Lord of the Rings, Star Wars and the Matrix Trilogies ALL have incredible fight scenes in every single one of the films. Period.

300, wow this movie impressed the hell out of me. I knew the fight scenes would be amazing but they turned out even better than I had hoped. With its Sepia toned skies and incredibly heavy contrast, the movie had a much darker feel making the fight scenes feel more intense and almost nightmarish.

Braveheart - all the battles in that movie are great especially Stirling.

13th Warrior - great action and very Viking-esk style to the way the fight scenes were shot. Dark, grim and brutal.

Willow - Did everyone forget about this Ron Howard classic, written by George Lucas. You have all the elements and it worked. The fight scene at the end with Madmartigan (Val Kilmer at his best) fighting his way through the hords of Bavmorda's troops and avenging Airk's death with a one-on-one with General Kael.

The Last Samurai - Several great fight scenes.

King Kong - Kong vs. Three T-Rex. I personally liked this remake of the 1933 classic, and whether or not you agree is your buisness, but no matter who you are you have to love this fight scene. Complex, fast and intense that takes you halfway across Skull Island. Great work again on Peter Jackson and his pals and Weta Digital's part.

The Chronicles of Narnia - End Battle. Thats about it for that movie, not that is wasnt good but that was the only part that really stuck out for me.

Kingdom of Heaven - Seige of Jerusalem

Gladiator - The Battle in Germania

X-Men - All three films had good fight scenes.

Troy - Achilles vs. Hector and Achilles retaking the beach with his Warriors. The rest of the battles in that movie are pretty weak considering the potential.

Terminator 2 - Opening Future Battle in the Nuclear Holocaust. As well as Arnold vs. T-1000. Great Stuff.

Terminator 3 - T-101 vs. T-X. Not a bad fight at all.

Aliens - Marines vs. Aliens in beginning. Marines/Ripley/Newt vs. Aliens in Sealed Room. Ripley vs. Queen. All good ones.

Spider-Man - All of Spidey's one-on-one battles are very well done and thoroughly thought out. Beautifully Choreographed and amazing cinematography. Now if they could only work on the dialogue they would be all set.

Blade - Blade taking out numerous Vampires with his sword and gun.

Chronicles of Riddick - There is one scene in that movie where Riddick and his pals kick the living hell out of some Necromongers (or however you spell

it) in a very ashy atmosphere. Extended edition kicks more butt.

And of Course your Historical War Movies.

Saving Private Ryan-without a doubt tops all others. Hands down no comparison.

We Were Soldiers has pretty good fight scenes.

WORST FIGHT SCENES

I really only have time for one and they would have to go to ALEXANDER. Wow talk about a disaster. Not only did the movie suck terribly but the fight scenes did not redeem it even a little. They were actually quite boring.

That movie never should have been made.

From: James Hoople
Date: 3 April 2007
Comment:
Ted B is wrong. The army of the dead were NOT part of the battle of Pelanor fields in the book. Aragorn used the army of the dead to take the corsairs then used the corsairs to transport men from the south to the battle. Great call, excellent battle scene until Jackson took the easy way out. Oh and by the way, yes the battle of Helms Deep is the better battle IMHO. Loved LOTR and can't wait for the Hobbit and the Battle of the Five Armies. (a new category? best battles yet to be put on film?).

From: Bret Lipow
Date: 3 April 2007
Comment:
There hasn't been an original battle scene in years. Almost every epic movie since Braveheart has followed the same formula: first, fast paced violent action to get everyone all riled up about how glorious war is, and follow that with the obligatory slow motion, dropped frame rate sludge to convey the horrors and senselessness of war - oh, and cue the strings.

Children of Men is an exception. It's one of a handful of movies in the post-Braveheart-epic-movie-market that has broken the mold. Gladiator, LOTR, Troy, Kingdom of Heaven, Alexander, 300- they all submit to cartoon nonsense. Glory, Children of Men, Saving Private Ryan (the Normandy segment), Master and Commander, Ran (hello?), Paths of Glory, Full Metal Jacket and Black Hawk Down are true cinematic achievements.

ps I don't think it qualifies as a battle, but there is a scene in Richard Attenborough's Gandhi where a British armored division slaughters a peaceably assembled group of Hindus that is truly jaw dropping, even today.

Same goes for the raid on the Human Being's village in Little Big Man.

From: Mark C. Taylor
Date: 3 April 2007
Comment:
The battle scenes in WWI trenches depicted in Kubrick's "Paths of Glory" are still amazing. Kubrick knew how to film battle scenes (the battle scenes in "Full Metal Jacket" and the shorter battle scenes in "Dr. Strangelove" all look authentic). The style utilized by Spielberg in "Private Ryan" owes a lot to Kubrick.

From: Mark Ray
Date: 3 April 2007
Comment:
Great list, but I think there are three glaring omissions in the 'best' list:

1) "Glory," the final assault on Ft. Wagner. Perhaps it requires the dramatic context of the rest of the movie, but from the moment Col.

Shaw (Matthew Broderick) sends his horse off into the surf and reveals a look of knowing doom, right up through the brief, futile breach of the fort, i've never been more gripped by a battle scene.

2) "Children of Men," ending scene. Spielberg's opening of 'Private Ryan' is an indisputable milestone, but I think Cuaron's amazing sequence actually got you more inside the horrific confusion of crossfire. And the plot serves as a chilling reminder of the cost of a single life lost in such a quagmire.

3) "The Thin Red Line." It takes half the movie for Nick Nolte's company to take one hill on Guadalcanal, and Terrence Malick lets it artfully breathe with elongated moments of dread (the eternal few seconds it takes Woody Harrelson's character to realize what's happened to him), sideways glances of contrasting beauty (a bird's song during a brief lull in the whir of bullets), and crushing moments of anticipation (the sun appears from the clouds over a shimmering hill of grass just before the utter carnage). Arguably, nobody's ever infused that much intimate humanity into the brutality of war.

From: Washington Brooks
Date: 3 April 2007
Comment:
The final battle scene at the end of Platoon. Bravo company is being overrun by the Viet Cong, but still keep on fighting. In a last ditch effort they decide to call for air support, which ends up wiping out both sides, with the exception of Bravo company's good guy and bad guy. You can guess what happens next.

From: Carmen
Date: 3 April 2007
Comment:
300 is at the top of my list. The graphics were great, but to me it was the story behind all the graphics and the comic book version. I

don't understand the ones saying there is not much of a plot.It's heroic.

My next favorite is Troy.

My third favorite would have to be the latest "King Arthur".

From: Alex Autrey
Date: 3 April 2007
Comment:
In your recent writings about best and worst battles, you mention that the Battle of Endor was one of the worst, and how the great and mighty Empire was basically taken down by jungle troops.

You're aware that this exactly how the US won it's independence, right?

You're also aware that Lucas himself said that Jedi was his "Viet Nam movie", with a son who refuses to fight and a group of savages taking down a technologically sound army?

I didn't think so. The fact that on scale the battle looks mismatched, but follows the biblical saying of "meek inheriting the Earth" is what's important in the battle. The fight might stink, but the message is strong.

Especially if you want to sell a bunch of toys of small Wookies.

From: Rick Walters
Date: 3 April 2007
Comment:
If fantasy and science fiction movies are included, why not cartoons? I was disappointed to see these departures from realistic movies on the list.

From: Michael D. Bettinger
Date: 3 April 2007
Comment:
Saving Private Ryan: The opening 45 minutes of the film is perhaps the most realistic and awe-inspiring account of the battle for Normandy in WWII. Steven Spielberg uses sound, lighting, and genius cinematography to place the viewer in the middle of the battle for Omaha Beach. The graphic nature of the scene only adds to it's realism, showing that war is not glorious, but gritty, terrifying, and brutal.

From: Renee, New York
Date: 3 April 2007
Comment:
Worst Battle Scene Pick

Okay I understand the premise that the battle for all human life really laid in the hands of Neo and that if he did not save them they were alll gonna die. However, the giant moving swarm of machines in the final Matrix movie left alot to be desired. The graphic elements are okay but when it come down to it the defense strategy mounted by the humans was very weak-it's the future! Where is all the advanced weaponry? How can you download a program straight into to somones brain but you cant make decent weapons?

From: Vincent Sorrento
Date: 3 April 2007
Comment:
John Lupton has it right with Hamburger Hill. The scenes we graphic, and realistic down to the weapons and uniforms used. Also should be mentioned is the scene in Band of Brothers when "E" Company, 506 P.I.R. is asked to take four German guns hidden at Breacourt Manor that were used to rain down artillery on Utah Beach. The scene was fast paced, as combat is and very good on sound.

From: Erik Freymuth
Date: 3 April 2007
Comment:
Where's "Seven Samarai." Hello? "Ran?" No Kurosawa in your list? Shameful!

From: Ryan Hampshire, Ohio
Date: 3 April 2007
Comment:
The gritty, intense, and overall amazing action sequences in "Children of Men" leave you breathless and reaching for your blood pressure medicine. The one-camera, one take scenes in the car and in the fugee camp make you feel as if you are there, struggling and fighting to survive right along with the characters in the film. Truly amazing pieces of film making.

From: Terry LeSure
Date: 3 April 2007
Comment:
I'm partial to the Space battle scenes from Star Trek "Nemesis"

The Enterprise E putting up a valiant fight, but getting pounded, then Romulan Warbirds try in vain to help...but are helpless against the tactical mastery of this new adversary.

From: Bre5584
Date: 3 April 2007
Comment:
Flags of Our Fathers had GREAT battle scenes! How could you not put that on the list??

From: Ted Bautista
Date: 3 April 2007
Comment:
You nailed it on the Best Screen Battles side of the list, but I'd probably change the order and put Zulu on top. The tension in the relentless Zulu charge against the iron discipline of the ranked defenders defined movie battle scenes for me forevermore. You can actually feel how close to the edge the defenders were (If just one man broke ranks! If just one soldier failed to reload in time!). Then, after the defenders had given their all and they knew that they couldn't possibly hold off another assault, even more Zulus appear -- but only to give salute (which was very alien to the European's idea of battle, circa 1800's).

And as for the Worst list, in defense of Peter Jackson's LOTR-The Return of the King, that was the way the battle was written down in JRR Tolkien's novel, and Jackson couldn't possibly change it without being quartered and drawn by a legion of LOTR fans. I guess what the movie didn't convey very well -- but what the book was brutally clear about -- was the fact that despite the individual heroism the armies of Gondor and Rohan were slowly being routed. It was the Army of the Dead -- who first dealt with the Corsairs from the South before sailing north to Gondor -- who turned the tide.

Sorry for the long recap. Should have given you a nerd level 5 warning first

From: G Lieber
Date: 3 April 2007
Comment:
Best battle scenes:

Troy: Hector and Ajax, Hector and Achilles, Achilles and his men taking the beach of Troy.

Star Wars Episode I: Obi Wan and Quai Gonn versus Darth Maul.

Episode II: Jedi rescue of Obi Wan, Anakin, and Senator Amadala.

Episode III: Obi Wan vs. Darth Vader.

Episode VI: I loved the Ewok battle. It's symbolic of David vs. Goliath. They were so small, the Emporer couldn't see them, but they were just enough to tip the battle to the side of the rebels.

Conan The Barbarian: When they rescued the princess and when he finally got revenge for the killing of his people and Valeria.

From: Laura Kerr
Date: 3 April 2007
Comment:
My favorite is by far the return of the king: battle of pealanor fields, this is because overall everything is amazing and when the rohirrium come over the ridge at that moment goosebumps spread through my body, the sheer number and scale of the battle was amazing and then combine that with amazing music and special effects and you'll get the best battle scene of out time, I believe no movie comes close to this one. Apart from that, Jackson follows the book so well, it really is quite amazing it will most likely remain my favorite battle scene (and movie) of all time.

From: Quinn Bastian
Date: 3 April 2007
Comment:
Not a bad list but Apocalypse Now over Saving Private Ryan?? I don't think so! How about the last fight in SPR? The pace and tension were incredible ("Uppum ammo!") not to mention extremely involving.

From: Sean Delaney
Date: 3 April 2007
Comment:
Windtalkers

I think that was the name of the movie Starring the over acting of Nicholas Cage. Action sequences were made for TV with old war stock footage, and sixties movie styled close ups. Awful. Worst war movie ever.... well, not really... all I have to say is Flash Gordon (please play Queens "Flash" song in your head when thinking about it).

From: Steve Swierczek
Date: 3
April 2007
Comment:

Best:

1.) "Glory" -- Night assault on Fort Wagner

2.) "Gettysburg" -- the desperate attack by the 20th Maine

3.) "Saving Private Ryan" -- Omaha Beach

4.) "Zulu" -- the first day's defense of Rourke's Drift

5.) "Braveheart" -- Battle of Stirling

6.) "Zulu Dawn" -- the Zulu attack on the British at Issandlwana Mountain

7.) "The Return of the King" -- the battle in the plains before the White City

8.) "The Two Towers" the defense of Helm's Deep

9.) "The Patriot" -- the American Militia's and Continentals' first defeat of Lord Cornwallis

10.) "Charge of the Light Brigade" -- the assault on the Balaclava heights

Worst:

1.) "Gettysburg" -- Picket's Charge

2.) "God's & Generals" -- Battle of Fredericksburg

3.) "Starship Troopers" -- the battle on Planet P

4.) "Cross of Iron" -- Russian assault on the German trenches

5.) "Hell is for Heroes" -- final attack on German fort

6.) "Waterloo" -- the final attack of the French Imperial Guard

7.) "Fort Apache" -- the cavalry charge into the Apache canyon

8.) "How the West was Won" -- the Battle of Shiloh

9.) "In Harm's Way" -- the naval battle for Levu Vana Island

10.) 'Tobruk" -- the first German attack on the British fort

From: Mark Lewandowski
Date: 2 April 2007
Comment:
Hey Joe Burke,

Sorry, Man. That's not the way it happened in the book. The King of the Dead and his army do not fight at the Pelennor.

From: Nate
Date: 2 April 2007
Comment:
Starship Troopers?

In the best battle scenes ever? That just doesn't sit well with me.

Even before I read the book I felt the movie was nothing more than over hyped, and badly done, b-rate film. The acting is pretty terrible and there really is no plot involved at all. Sure you get to see some flesh in scenes here and there and there are battles it just doesn't make much sense.

If there were to be a good battle sequence in a Starship Troopers film it would have to be completely redone and the armour would have to be brought in. What makes the battle scenes so intense in the

book are the fact that these are one man armies working together.

Their training is far superior and brutal than what is shown in the film.

I'd have to toss this into the worst battle sequences of all time.

No one can stand on the back of a giant beetle and expect to shoot a hole in it's carapace in order to toss a grenade to kill the beastie.

From: Lynne Mendenhall
Date: 2 April 2007
Comment:
My new list of favorite Battle Scenes:

The # ONE by far: 300: First Morning - King Leonidas in long scene shown in slo-mo and fast speed, killing Persian after Persian with spear, shield and sword. Amazing.

Second: 300: The first battle scene, the Persians attack with force at the mouth of the Hot Gates. The Spartans give ground for a few moments and then for a second all action stops. The Spartans push back with such force they overwhelm the Persians and drive them out of the Hot Gates and 'to the cliffs.'

Third: 300: The first night, King Leonidas fights with the uber giant and slays him.

Fourth: 300: The final fight scene: King Leonidas has pretended to give in and dropped to his knees. For a moment he is still, lulling the Persians into believing the fight is over. Then he calls to Stelios who bursts from the phalanx and kills the emissary of Xerses. Then King Leonidas picks up his spear and hurls it at Xerses strafing his cheek.

Fifth: 300: Astinos slays the Rhino as all Spartans remain motionless in the face of the oncoming beast.

Sixth: 300 Astinos and Stelios use spear, sword and shield against numerous Persians.

There is an balletic feel with the hand to hand fighting in 300. I didn't find it nearly as 'gory' as Appocolypto or Braveheart or Gladiator.

Seventh: Gladiator: The Battle in Germania

Eighth: Braveheart: The Battle of Stirling Bridge

Thank you for the opportunity to comment. Please note, I am a 70 year old grandmother who is not bloodthirsty at all but who appreciates the bravery and sacrifice of those who nobly and willingly give their lives for family, honor, country.

From: Mitch Mayer
Date: 2 April 2007
Comment:
I just read your compilation of the best and worst movie battle scenes and I was disappointed that you left a couple out. One is from "The Longest Day", it's the scene where the French commando unit has to hold the town, it has a wonderful aerial shot as the French troops advance, another one is more contemporary it's from the Mel Gibson film "We Were Young Once And Soldiers Too" (I think that is the correct title), by far some of the most gripping battle scenes I have ever scene, especially when one of the soldiers gets hit with a phosphorous grenade (you can almost smell the flesh burning...a bit graphic I know).

From: Ray Garbee
Date: 2 April 2007
Comment:
While SST as a movie is less than stellar, the "Klendathu Drop" sequence is a fairly rousing, bloody battle sequence.

Is it better than watching the British get swamped in "Zulu Dawn"? Nope.

Is it better than the "The Enemy Below"? Nope.

Is it better than watching the 20th Maine's desperate fight in Gettysburg? Nope.

Is it better than watching the heroic defenders of the Motherland fight off the Teutonic monsters in "Alexander Nevsky"? Nope.

Also missing from the 'best' list.

- Battle of Hoth from The Empire Strikes Back.

- Charge of the Light Horse from "The Lighthorsemen"

Worst List

- Battle of the Bulge. You know why.

From: Katie Penote
Date: 2 April 2007
Comment:
Best and Worst Movie Battle Scenes

BEST:

Kenneth Branagh's 1989 "Henry V": On a dismal budget, the then-no-name Branagh directed and acted in a rousing rendition of the Battle of Agincourt -- a Sunday Slam between the roughneck English and the pompous French (I'm part French, so I can say that). The scene comprises a vivid mix of real-time and slow-mo shots, assisted by a great soundtrack and a number of gloriously gruesome (and some say accurate) action sequences, not to mention supreme acting by an A-list of classically trained actors. It concludes with a long, grueling, one-take shot of Branagh carrying a "dead" Christian Bale (then in a slightly smaller 12-year-old frame) across a debris- and body-strewn, mud-filled field. If Branagh had committed the same passion to Mary Wollstonecraft Shelley as he did to Shakespeare, maybe his version of "Frankenstein" wouldn't have been so embarrassing. Poor lad.

WORST:

Any battle scene in which someone utters the line, "At my signal, unleash hell."

From: Joshua Blanchette
Date: 2 April 2007
Comment:
While quite subjective in terms of the criteria used, I think 2 mentions should be made for the long shootout near the end of Heat (after the burglary) as well as the scene in Blood Diamonds where Daniel Archer is trying to escape the city being overrun by rebels. Worst Battle sequence could come from any "Missing In Action".

From: Jeffery T. Work
Date: 2 April 2007
Comment:
I'd like to add the night time attack at the end of "Platoon". Good depiction of a night attack in Vietnam. "Hamburger Hill" has great scenes in it too. Also, the movie "Memphis Belle" depicted the dangers of the daylight American bomb raids over Germany very well too. Thanks.

From: Paul Astle
Date: 2 April 2007
Comment:
1) I agree with Roakes' Drift in "Zulu." The frist time in a movie where the dead don't just fall but are twitch afterward. This reminded people they are not just shapes on a field but human lives lost.

2) "The Battle of Britain" as the 'Big Wings' mass over London to await the Germans. In this pre-CGI movie producers created the world's 3rd largest airforce and in this scene they show it. After being pounded by the Germans early on they are now massed together and waiting, and you know what is coming.

3)"Gettysburg" Picket's charge. The real charge had 15,000 men. in the movie they had 5,000 and it is still impressive. An attack against hope, doomed from the momment it set out.

From: Matthew Spizuco
Date: 2 April 2007
Comment:
He didn't write the Lord of the Rings and on the expanded edition DVD of LotR:RotK he clearly expressed his dislike for the Army of the Dead. Let's be fair, it was JRR's cop out, not Jackson's.

Lord of the Rings: Return of the King -- Pelennor Fields

Peter Jackson, 2003

... and then the staunch resistance of the Men of Gondor and the Rohirrim's endeavors on the battlefield are all rendered utterly pointless when the Army of the Dead swoop in at the end. Couldn't they have turned up a bit earlier? An oversimplified cop out.

From: Robert
Date: 2 April 2007
Comment:
How about the footage from the epic Waterloo? So many men and horses....and not digital ones.....scores of artillery pieces....all in their glorious period uniforms!! The horror of war is there too....although somewhat muted when compared to the horrific violence from Saving Private Ryan or Blackhawk Down.

I second the nomination of the attack of Fort Wagner from Glory. An awesome, powerful spectacle with a perfect musical score.

Finally, the Russian tank and infantry attack on the outnumbered, entrenched Germans from Cross of Iron. The urgency and frantic confusion in the German bunkers was portrayed quite well.

From: Dan Fabrizio, New Jersey
Date: 2 April 2007
Comment:
Children of Men, Alfonso Cuaron, 2006: Maybe it's too soon to compare, but the finale of this film is one of the most intense I've ever seen. In the midst of an explosive conflict Clive Owen dodges bullets as he makes his way into an apartment building under siege to find a newborn baby -- the only one on Earth. It should make your list for the sheer brilliance in the way it's filmed; with minimal cuts the choreography must've been extremely intensive. The end result makes your chest pound as if you were a part of the actual battle.

Heat, Michael Mann, 1995: It takes them a little too long to get there, but when this heist goes wrong it quickly escalates into a deafening spray of gunfire between bank robbers and the LAPD. The best is Al Pacino racing through LA streets and tearing bank robber Tom Sizemore away from a little girl he's taken hostage with a machine gun.

From: George W. Thacker, III
Date: 2 April 2007
Comment:
More of the "Best":

1. "300": Absolutely amazing.

Worst:

1. Alexander: Aside from the cartoonish Star Wars prequels, the absolute worst battle scene ever is Alexander. No other movie compares to the "major" battle scene. The Macedonian/Greek army is led by a group of California surfer hermaphrodites, the cinematography is choppy, and the musical score is the most amatuerish piece ever heard. The scene has zero emotion. Absolutely horrendous.

2. Troy: Although Pitt's one-on-one combat scenes are amazing, the battle scenes are terrible. Just when Troy assembles tens and tens of thousands of soldiers and has the Greeks downhill on their heals, the prince decides that they have fought enough. So much anticipation, and then "time out, let's fight later."

From: Andy Williams
Date: 2 April 2007
Comment:
Best scenes that you missed

How could you miss Agincourt from Henry V?

What about the battle in The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe? Much better than any of Peter Jackson's stuff, excepting the scene in LOTR where Sauron loses the Ring.

I also have to say that Custer's last stand in Little Big Man was well done. Richard Mulligan was brilliant.

We Were Soldiers.

Worst scenes that you missed

Any battle scene from Windtalkers.

From: John Fowler
Date: 2 April 2007
Comment:
One of my favorite battle sequences is in Sergei Eisenstein's Alexander Nevsky, which seems to have influenced the battles in the latter two LOTR films. And I'd replace the Battle of Germania another Ridley Scott battle: siege of Jerusalem in Kingdom of Heaven.

And honestly, leaving off the Battle of Hoth is disgraceful, almost nearly as disgraceful as saying the Battle of Endor is one of the worst. Come on! The Ewoks are only part of it because there's a phenomenal space battle going on simultaneously, which for my money is still the best space battle ever made.

Fun list though!

From: Timothy Meyer
Date: 2 April 2007
Comment:
What about the navy battles? Captain Horation Hornblower starring Gregory Peck. Damn the Defiant starring Alec Guinness The ships with the canons roaring and the swords clanging lots of action and little cursing!

From: Chris Aguilar
Date: 2 April 2007
Comment:
More to add to your list.

Best

The Battle Scene in the Patriot with Mel Gibson. The Matrix when Neo goes into the Building with the Metal Detector.

The Last Samurai has a great battle scene.

Hello did we also forget Kingdom of Heaven, Some great battle scenes there.

Revenge of the Sith has a great opening Space Battle Scene and of course Obi Wan & Anakin going at it is good also.

Aliens with the Space Marines is also great.

The Crow with Brandon Lee. I dont know if its considered a battle scene but he sure slaughters the hell out of 30 guys with a sword.

And of course the Mother of All battle scenes

The 10 Commandments Movie: God vs Ramsies army, come on who didn't see this ending coming.

Worst

Any Star Trek Battle Scene. They are weak and suck big time.

Flash Gordon (From the 80's) weak battle scenes

Robin Hood ( With Kevin Costner)

From: Michael L. Miller, CA
Date: 2 April 2007
Comment:
A japanese movie called HEAVEN AND EARTH.....the battle scenes are epic.........influence on battle scenes from braveheart. NO CGI!!!

From: Brent Curtis, Nebraska
Date: 2 April 2007
Comment:
I'm not sure how you managed to overlook this one, but how could you have left out the battle with the Deadites in "Army of Darkness"? After saying that, I'm not sure whether it belongs on the "Best" list or the "Worst" one. At any rate, it is a Sam Raimi classic, complete with the man's man (the Man Among Men), Bruce Campbell leading both the good guys and the bad guys.

From: Steve Hall
Date: 2 April 2007
Comment:
Has everyone forgotten the old west? What about some of the Movies about the Alamo? Certain aspects could be consider the worst and the best.

How about John Wayne in "True Grit" I agree it didn't have a massive amount of people in the battle, but 1 against 3, or was it 4? and winning it pretty good. And with the same respect Gary Cooper in "High Noon". Again 1 against 3 to 4 and winning. Now that is a classic battle.

Another one is the "Last of the Mohican's" the battle at Fort William Henry was pretty spectacular. Well those are my picks.

From: Tyler Higgs, Vancouver BC
Date: 2 April 2007
Comment:
Best

1. Black Hawk Down

Horrific and Awe inspiring. The movie is one long intense battle.

2. Saving Private Ryan - Ramelle Battle More hard hitting than the opening battle of the movie. Perhaps because we're more emotionally invested in the characters at that point in the movie.

3. Pearl Harbour - Attack on Pearl Harbour While the movie was generally a failure, the battle scenes over pearl harbour (and even the Battle of Britain scene) were amazing.

Especially impressive in that the aerial battle (with Affleck and Hartnett's characters) was largely factually based (ok, minus the zipping in and among buildings in their planes) See this site for more info: http://www.acepilots.com/usaaf_welch.html (the heir to the Welch's grape juice fortune a hero!). Also impressive to note, the story of Cuba Gooding's character was also factually based.

From: Steve Samuelian
Date: 2 April 2007
Comment:
Worst Battle Scenes

Open Range - Climactic Gunfight

Kevin Costner, 2003

Armed with his trusty six-shooter, our hero Kevin emerges from his hiding place and proceeds to shoot all the bad guys, at one point pounding furiously on the pistol's hammer with his palm to speed the rate at which the bullets fly. Trouble is, those guns only fire six bullets before they need to be reloaded (hence the name). I stopped counting at 13. I can suspend my disbelief with the best of 'em, but this was just too much to ask in a movie that seemed to strive for realism and some level of historic accuracy. Plus, Robert Duvall makes a much better cowboy and was dreadfully wasted in the role of the "old guy."

From: John C. Suart, Kingston, Ontario
Date: 2 April 2007
Comment:
I'm a war movie buff. Here's my picks.

BEST

Gettysburgh, 1993, Action at Little Round Top

Jeff Daniels gives a great performance of this battle at Gettysburg that nearly lost the Union the war. Gritty and non-stop, the fighting shows just how close the battle was and the determination that saved the day. Very realistic.

All Queit on the Western Front, 1979, Trench Battles

This TV version of the famous black and white movie was terrific in showing the difficult nature of trench warfare.

WORST

Green Berets, 1968, Battle for Fire Base

Besides the wooden performance of John Wayne, the battle scenes where the Viet Cong attack the fire base was unbelievably bad. Wayne's Green Beret's blast away at the slowly marching hordes to no effect.

Glory, 1989, Battery Wagner

Glory was a solid Civil War story that had a mixed presentation. The small unit action that precedes the climatic frontal assault on the Confederate Fort was better than the attack on the fort. The fort fight was confused and difficult to follow. It was a night action and so was a confused battle, but I found it hard to follow.

From: Lynn
Date: 2 April 2007
Comment:
I have to add the battle scene from "The Matrix Revolutions". Captain Mafoney and his last stand against the Sentinels was pretty hellish and his death awe inspired. The woefully under-protected infantry slithering around massive machines to knock out the Drilling machines gives a stark depiction of man vs. machine.

From: Stuart Soo
Date: 2 April 2007
Comment:
Worst battle scenes/movies

Fireball Forward- 1972 Ben Gazzara

Alexander- 2004? to convoluted hard to tell what was going on during the battle

too much focus on Greek tragedy

Battle of the Bulge- Henry Fonda,

Good performances, yet lack of authenticity using American M-60s as German Panthers

not to mention the M-5s

Patton

How can you make a movie about one of the most reverred Generals of WW2 and

no put in at least one big battle scene.

Big Red One Lee Marvin and Luke Skywalker

- bad reinactment of D-Day landing

From: Justin Petty
Date: 2 April 2007
Comment:
The battle in Excalibur -- Good father vs. evil son, everyone dies, it doesn't get much better.

From: Brian Hayes, Minneapolis, MN
Date: 2 April 2007
Comment:
How about the Battle of the Little Big Horn in the classic "Little Big Man"? The definitive Custer on screen, and what appears to be an accurate recollection of the vainglorious and chaotic end of part of the 7th U.S. Cavalry.

From: Mike Bridger
Date: 2 April 2007
Comment:
I remember the battle scene in 300 Spartans (the 1962 Movie) being interesting and fun, of course I was 12 when I last saw it. They used real "casts of thousands" back then, before they became so many pixels.

Also Patton's battle scenes, particular the collage of scenes for the Battle of the Buldge. Spartacus also had some good battles in it as I recall.

From: Hewitt Spain
Date: 2 April 2007
Comment:
I know most people didn't like the rest of the movie, but...

...The battle of Gaugamela in Oliver Stone's Alexander was accurate and bloody. Hydaspes River, although less accurate, is another good pick from that movie.

From: Sterling Smith
Date: 2 April 2007
Comment:
The movie We Were Soldiers had several awesome battle scenes. Several of your picks had a large amount of computer help..... the Vietnam epic had some great scenes and effects, as good as any in Apocalypse Now. I will say that the music that accompanied the helicopter scene in Apocalypse Now (Wagner's Ride of the Valkyrie) was great!

From: Chris Moylan, New Jersey
Date: 2 April 2007
Comment:
You missed some great movie Cavalry Charges which must have taken quite a bit of effort to file with all those horses.

1.) The Lighthorsemen- A great Australian movie made in the late 1980's. The ending Cavalry charge against the Turks at Beersheba was amazing.

2.) Waterloo-With Rod Steiger as Napoleon and Christopher Plummer as the Duke of Wellington. The charge of the Scotts Greys and the French Cavalry breaking against British Infantry Squares

3.) Lawrence of Arabia-The Charge at Aquaba was great

4.) The Wind and the Lion-Sean Connery charge against the Germans and French at the end was great.

5.) Thye Came to Codura- An overlooked Gary Copper film before he died. They attack Pacho Villa's Farm and that Cavalry charge set up was great

6.) Major Dundee -- Richard Harris and Charlton Heston taking on the French Lancers on the Rio Grande at the end of the movie was great.

7.) The Battle of Pleannor Plain in LOTR- Great inspiring scene but that scene was mostly computer generated.

Not a Cavalry charge the initial battle scene in Aliens (the second one with Michael Beihn as Corporal Hicks) was great.

The ending battle in Platoon was great to.

From: Chris from Texas
Date: 2 April 2007
Comment:
I rather enjoyed the Matrix Revolutions Battle Scene of the Sentinels Vs. Humans.

I also thought the Scene From Eragon at the end was rather "graphic".

The Patriot Final Battle was a good fight as well...

A bad battle is Dungeons and Dragons final Dragon War Scene...

From: Sharon Kirtley
Date: 2 April 2007
Comment:
If you have never seen the movie Ran...and I can't believe you have or you would have listed it...then you must go out and get it or download it or whatever you need to do because it has the battle scene to end all battle scenes - slow motion, silence and then Bam!

From: Alex Williams
Date: 2 April 2007
Comment:
In addition to the land-based battles on your list, there are many naval battle scenes that deserve mention. My favorites are from "Master and Commander: The Far Side of the World" and "Das Boot." From the creaking timbers of Napoleanic warships to the bursting seams of a WWII U-boat, both of these movies put you into the scene in vivid detail and with edge-of-the-seat suspense.

From: Matt Apple
Date: 2 April 2007
Comment:
The Battle for Guadalcanal in The Thin Red Line exceeds in war movie's battle scene. The soldiers being mowed down by Japanese soldiers is one of the most devastating scenes in the movie. Sean Penn, Nick Nolte, John Cusack. Need I say more?

From: Fabian, Berlin
Date: 2 April 2007
Comment:
Starship Troopers catches one of the 10 best movie battles?

Why? It's just ... C-Movie-style and illogical. Does it really matters, what happens there? It should've been in the worse-list. At least because of needing nearly a hole magazine of amo at first for killing bugs and later on planet P they are killed as soon as they see a gun. ^^

And hey ... Episode VI hasn't deserved this one. OK, it doesn't make the best-list, but worst-list? There are much more movies that would come before Ep VI (e.g. Ep I *smile*). What about the battles in Troy? Or Full Metal Jacket?

From: Vikram
Date: 2 April 2007
Comment:
You should have called it the Best and the worst of HOLLYWOOD movie battle scenes. Although, I do agree with the battle scenes which you have picked as the Best, I would like to reiterate, these are the Best battle scenes on Hollywood movies.

I am pretty sure the battle scenes from Akira Kurosawa's "RAN" is the best there is, you should probably ask Steven Spielberg where he got his inspiration for the opening battle scene in "Saving Private Ryan". Seven samurai's skirmish scenes were great too. I can keep naming movie battle scenes like this which will beat your list hands down.

From: Patrick Kinney
Date: 2 April 2007
Comment:
It is interesting to note that a common thread between two of the best scenes and one less stellar was Daivd Tomblin. He helped create the Battle Of Stamford Bridge, when no suitable bridge could be found. He was the Assistant Director behind the parachute Drop in Bridge To Far and also the 2nd Unit Director on Return of the Jedi.

An Unsung Hero if there ever was one.

Someone should assemble greatest Crowd scenes and his name would be eminent( 500k in Gandhi, 20k in Cry Freedom, 5k in Empire of the Sun and the list goes on...)

From: Jim Lillegard
Date: 2 April 2007
Comment:
Any scene from 'Lord of the Rings' for any category should necessarily be placed on the 'worst' list.

From: Chris Baff
Date: 2 April 2007
Comment:
Hi guys One you might want to mention, Gallipoli with a very young Mel Gibson when he still sounded Australian. Not so much for the actual action, but the scenes leading up to the ANZACS going "over the top" are superb and show the disdain that the English really held for their colonial soldiers.

From: Ryan Lindblom
Date: 2 April 2007
Comment:
There has never been a less inspiring battle cry than, "To the trees!" The forest battle seqence from Robin Hood easily ranks among the worst in film history. And as if to add insult to injury, anyone who didn't turn off the movie after that cinematic disgrace had to suffer through the storming of the castle sequence at the end. There should be a support group for people who had to sit through this movie.

From: Nikita
Date: 2 April 2007
Comment:
"The Empire's frighteningly efficient professional armored troops, backed by the power of the Dark Side, complete with towering Scout Walkers, speeder bikes and ray guns get defeated by ... a bunch of overgrown Tribbles armed with rocks and creepers. Er, no. Not even with Han Solo on your side."

oh common!!!!! Who wrote this a Star Trek Fan?!!!! Overgrow Tribbles? Give me a break!!!!!! I would have accepted the critic if it was well written, by a normal guy not a Trekkie.... You better add the Battle of Endor to the best list, but the SPACE BATTLE, not the Ewok lucky strike

Battles to the best list: Hey what about the BATTLE OF HOTH, a good example of bad guys kickin' good guys' buts

CNN Response: Hi Nikita, just for the record, I'd probably pick Star Wars over Star Trek, although I'm a fan of both.

You're right about the Hoth battle -- it's probably my favorite of the Star Wars fights. The space battles in Star Wars are superb, but we were thinking more of land battles when we drew up the list. If we do a list of space battles, I'd bet there'd be at least two Star Wars battles in there!

From: Angela Vickers
Date: 2 April 2007
Comment:
The German war epic Stalingrad, in which the opening battle scene makes 'Saving Private Ryan' seem like a Disney film, needs to be included in any list of American films on this topic.

From: David Kuechel
Date: 30 March 2007
Comment:

Your list totally overlooks older movies...the ones you missed:

All Quiet on the Western Front -- Lewis Milestone's trench warfare has never been more accurately seen through the eyes of a teenager. The charge against the machine gun nests from both sides shows the senseless waste.

The Longest Day -- Two battles shown from two different directors; the first showing the French attack to get to the casino, the second showing the Americans at Omaha having to blow a hole through a concrete wall to open a path.

Sands of Imo Jima -- The landings both at Tarawa and Imo Jima are chilling and real with actual stock footage cut in.

Battle of the Bulge -- Not the most accurate movie but the tank battle between the better made German Panzers against the greater number of American Sherman's shows a war of attrition.

Sink the Bismarck -- Yes, they did use miniatures but the scenes do look real. Seeing the young boy standing on the "Prince of Wales" viewing the HMS Hood being destroyed in a few seconds is chilling.

Cross of Iron -- Sam Peckenpaugh's icy tale of a retreating German army constantly being hounded by the Russian Army. The final advance scene is amazing.

Attack! -- The final scene where Jack Palace gets his arm caught under a German tank, has to pull it out of the socket to go back and confront commanding officer (Eddie Arnold) because he forced his squad to go forward on a suicide mission.

Last of the Mohicans -- The British/Indian attack scenes are both riveting and morbid.

Fort Apache -- Henry Fonda heads into a narrow gorge where Sitting Bull is waiting and the outcome is obvious.

Sahara -- Humphrey Bogart leads a cosmopolitan group of 11 men set to hold a well in Africa against 300 advancing Germans.

From: Drew Golightly
Date: 30 March 2007
Comment:
Glory? How could you leave out the Battle of Fort Wagner?

From: Debbie Alfisi
Date: 30 March 2007
Comment:
300! The whole damn thing!

The worst: 13th Warrior.

From: mike, long island, NY
Date: 30 March 2007
Comment:
You guys forgot Black Hawk Down. Basically the entire movie is a battle sequence, and a great one. Just the way it is filmed with all the corners and whats going on the background(kind of like in 'Lost' where if you dont watch what isnt going on in the foreground you could miss something). its one of Ridly Scott's best movies. The best part is the night sequence with the helicopters unloading with the night vision camera's on the enemies. its amazing.

CNN Response -- You're right, Mike -- that's a great one!!

From: Dave Long
Date: 30 March 2007
Comment:
Anything from the Chuck Norris Delta Force movies and the uber-lame "Navy Seals" with Charlie Sheen. It's an embarrassment. At least Chuck wasn't the swaggering big "D" that Charlie played. Aweful.

From: Catherine Lodato
Date: 30 March 2007
Comment:
One of the best that CNN missed--The Empire Strikes Back, Battle on the Ice Planet Hoth. The first glimpse through rebel binoculars of a hulking metal AT-ATs lumbering toward the rebel base raised the hair on my arms. Thanks!

CNN Response -- Great pick, Catherine - we love that one, too!

From: Doug Hansen
Date: 30 March 2007
Comment:
Some great battle scenes you didn't mention were from Spartacus, (which Mel Gibson borrowed heavily from). The flaming logs plowing into the Roman legions is fantastic stuff.

Also, Lawrence of Arabia when they attack the caravan of Turks with the cry of "No prisoners!" and Omar Shariff crying helplessly "Oh God, Oh God!" as he joins the slaughter.

Not really a battle scene per se, but Kubrick's Full Metal Jacket: Doc J then Eightball are being shot to pieces by a Vietcong sniper. The slow motion, blood and screams of the two men in this horrific scene is numbing.

Some of the worst: Anything from the film Gettysburg. Did we really have to see EVERY single death at that battle recreated on screen?

Any battle scene from the movie Revolution was awful. Al Pacino gives a whispering performance throughout the American Revolution as the bodies fall comically around him.

Let's not forget The Patriot either, if Mel had one of the best battle scenes he certainly has one of the worst in this Braveheart knock off.

From: Kyle
Date: 30 March 2007
Comment:
I would include another Mel Gibson film, We Were Soldiers. All of the scenes depicting the Battle of the Ia Drang Valley were dead on. Also, the Battle of the Black Sea depicted in Ridley Scott's Black Hawk Down.

From: Ken Oberlin
Date: 30 March 2007
Comment:
I don't know if this counts as a movie battle per se (not as grandiose as some of the others listed), but I felt that the 20 minute long running gun-fight in the movie "Heat" by director Michael Mann deserves a mention. When Robert Deniro, Val Kilmer, and Tom Sizemore leave the bank they have just robbed, and are confronted by Al Pacino and his partners, all hell breaks loose. The action is hectic, the gun play is by far some of the best in movies PERIOD, and Val Kilmer was actually able to act (a feat unto itself!!)

Other movies that could easily make the list (again, not as grand, but worth mentioning anyways) are Bruce Lee's final fight in Enter the Dragon in the hall of mirrors, moving blindly and striking at reflections of an enemy who may or may not be there.

And while I agree that Star Wars had its share of grand battles that ended in a less than grand way, the final climactic battle of Obi Wan Kenobi and Anakin Skywalker in Star Wars Episode III: Revenge of the Sith was a particularly great battle - people waited 28 years to finally see this battle played out on screen, and not one fan was disappointed by it. People were more upset with Hayden Christensen's robotic delivery of his lines, but you'd be hard pressed to find someone who didn't enjoy the battle for what it was - an epic struggle of Good versus a confused man fighting with his ideals about the differences between Good and Evil.

Last but not least, we come to Arnold Schwarzenegger in the original Conan the Barbarian. "Crom, I have never prayed to you before. I have no tongue for it. No one, not even you, will remember if we were good men or bad. Why we fought, or why we died. All that matters is that two stood against many. That's what's important! Valor pleases you, Crom... so grant me one request. Grant me revenge! And if you do not listen, then to HELL with you!" This has to be one of the best examples of a few men who stood against many and overcame formidable odds, and one of the best movie quotes by an actor that some say can barely string together two words to form a coherent thought. Other notable quotes from the movie that pertain to battle, - Mongol General, " What is best in life?", - Conan, "To crush your enemies, to see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of their women. " Sums up battle pretty well I think.

Thanks for the opportunity to post some of my favorites - I hope you can find it in you to include one or two of them. The fact is that there are so many great movie battles - some that are epic, some that are not, but all of them have a place in the hearts and minds of people who enjoy great cinema.

From: Alexander Featherstone
Date: 30 March 2007
Comment:
How can you guys list the best battles and not mention any of the Matrix Movies... Neo vs 100 agent Smiths or the final battle between Zion and the machines...You guys really missed the boat on that one.

From: Aaron D Smith
Date: 30 March 2007
Comment:
Among the best has to be just about anything in the Band of Brothers Series (especially the battle of Bastogne). Also included must be the two main battle scenes in The Last Samurai. There are so many good battle scenes (We Were Soldiers, The Patriot (Mel Gibson, not Steven Seagal), Gettysburg). Among the worst has to be the Matrix Revolutions final battle.

From: Chad Hindman
Date: 30 March 2007
Comment:
best: opening battle in gangs of new york- dead rabbits and natives at five points- meat cleavers and big sticks battle set to electro pop in slow mo-doesn't get much better

worst: pick a battle scene in alexander, any scene

From: Dennis Hill
Date: 30 March 2007
Comment:
A movie that managed to turn the climax of the Battle of the Bulge into a tank battle (that never happened) and somehow that managed to give some humainty to the SS tankers who slaughtered Americans.

From: casey
Date: 30 March 2007
Comment:
You completely forgot about the amazing and realistic battle scenes of "The Thin Red Line" -- an incredible movie that realistically portrayed the complete terror of the Marine assaults against the Japanese at Guadalcanal. My dad was 17 and a marine and fought at those battles. It made me weep for him. Regards, casey

From: Laura Guy
Date: 30 March 2007
Comment:
Best battle scenes: Henry V with Kenneth Brannaugh. What can be said?

From: Marc Bloom
Date: 30 March 2007
Comment:
Run, don't walk, to the video store for Ran directed by Kurosawa. Also, check out the Battle of Bosworth in the 1955 Richard III directed by Olivier.

From: John Lupton
Date: 30 March 2007
Comment:
Movie: Hamburger Hill: Assault uphill battle against the Vietnamese is very graphic and brutal with the fog of war all around. Intense!

Movie: Full Metal Jacket: Patrol is whittled down slowly in an agonizing fashion by a sniper. The patrol launches a vicious counterattack to expose the sniper and eliminate Her! Great Vietnam-era war flick.

Movie: Anzio: Peter Falk as a grizzled sergeant is accompanied by a reporter and they are attacked by a sniper in a desert area in Sicily. Watch the sweat and sand fly as they try to "get them before they get us".

From: Joe Burke
Date: 30 March 2007
Comment:
Pelennor fields, its what happened in the book man. The Movie was called "The return of the king", and after that insane battle when it looked like hope was lost, The KING RETURNED, and saved the day with the lost souls of disgraced warriors, the movie was about more than battles and killing people.

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