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Clinton Comments on Prescription Drug Benefit Bill, Gas Prices, China Trade

Aired June 22, 2000 - 9:58 a.m. ET

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WILLIAM J. CLINTON, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: ... that many seniors and many people with disabilities simply will not be able to afford. It's a benefit for the companies who make the drugs, not the seniors who need them most.

Moreover, their bill would do nothing for the hospitals, home health care agencies and other providers who clearly need extra help to provide quality care under the Medicare program.

I hope when the full House considers this issue, it will reject this false promise and vote instead for a proposal that provides a real and meaningful Medicare prescription drug benefit on a voluntary basis, but one that is affordable and available to all seniors who need it.

If the House acts to protect the public health, it would be following the fine example it set earlier this week when it permitted the Department of Veterans Affairs to help to fund the Justice Department's litigation against the tobacco companies.

This modest investment of VA funds can help our veterans and other taxpayers recover billions of dollars in health care costs, a substantial sum that will improve health care for veterans and for all Americans. This shows what we can accomplish when we put the public interest ahead of special interests, the public interest ahead of partisan disputes.

But it's only a first step. Today the House can move further ahead if it votes to allow the Justice Department to receive these and other funds. Tuesday's victory for veterans and taxpayers will prove to be hollow if today the House reverses itself. The tobacco companies and their powerful allies in Congress are working overtime to pass special protections to shield them from financial responsibility for the harm they've caused.

So, again, I ask Congress: Just let the American people have their day in court. The legal responsibility of the tobacco companies should be decided by a judicial process, not by the political process. The health of our people is a precious resource. Those of us in public life should be doing everything we can to work together, whether we're working to provide affordable prescription drug coverage or to demand accountability for the health care costs of tobacco.

In the days and months ahead I will continue to work with members of both parties to achieve these goals.

Thank you very much.

QUESTION: The vice president was very direct and forthright yesterday, sir, in his accusations that there is collusion among the oil companies to inflate prices. Do you share those sentiments? And what are your thoughts on this becoming a preeminent issue in the presidential campaign?

CLINTON: Well first of all, let's look at the problem here. This is a big problem because there are a lot of Americans that have to drive to make a living, they have to drive distances just to make a living. Then you've got all these truckers out there that have to pay big fuel costs to make a living. And something that there hasn't been a lot of talk about, but if this thing can be moderated, it's also going to have, I think, quite a burdensome impact on the airline companies, on the costs of air travel.

So this is going to rifle throughout our economy. I have said repeatedly and I will say again, I think that it is in the best interest of the people of the United States, but also the oil producing countries, that have oil prices somewhere in the neighborhood of $20 to $25 a barrel. That gives them the revenues they need, it keeps the incentives in our economy to continue to become more energy efficient, and it doesn't bankrupt people that have to have fuel in substantial quantities. So this is a big problem.

Now I have a lot of concerns about the speed with which this run- up occurred. I expected some upward pressure on prices because our economy is doing well and because the Asian economy is coming back, the European economy is coming back, so there'll be a bigger global demand for oil and there would be some upward pressure, but it doesn't explain, by a long stretch, the dramatic increase in prices.

Neither does the requirement for special additives to reduce air pollution even come close to explaining the increase in the Chicago- Milwaukee area. We're talking about two or three cents a gallon for the environmental requirement, and that won't come close to explaining prices that are 50 cents a gallon higher than they are in other places. So the proper thing to do I think is to have a vigorous inquiry by the Federal Trade Commission; they're going to do this.

If you've noticed, there's some indicate -- the best evidence to support the statement the vice president made is that two days after the call went out for the Federal Trade Commission to investigate this, there was a 16-cent-a-gallon drop in the price of the oil at the refinery level. Now that hasn't manifested itself at the pump yet, because it takes time for this oil to be refined and to be distributed and to be sold as fuel, but I'm very concerned about it.

Let me say, I guess the follow-up question, and I don't want to anticipate it, but, you know, there are all these stories about, well, is this or is this not a political issue and who does it help or hurt? I think the important thing is this country should have a bipartisan or a nonpartisan interest in a long-term stable energy policy. And there are several things the Congress can do right now to help that and I would like to just go through them because I mentioned several of them earlier this year.

But let me just mention, first of all, I sent -- you will remember, I sent a proposal to Congress earlier this year to encourage more stripper-well production in the United States. The Congress needs to pass that. We need to get some of these American wells back in operation now. The price will make it quite profitable, but we can do some things to jump start that.

Secondly, the Congress still has not reauthorized the strategic petroleum reserve which ties the president's hands. It undermines one of the options we have to maintain downward pressure on the oil prices, but also to deal with any emergencies that might crop up.

Thirdly, because of the failure to reauthorize the strategic petroleum reserve, there is a cloud over the question of whether we can establish a regional home heating oil reserve for the mid-Atlantic and the Northeastern states that rely so heavily on home heating oil. And if these prices in fuel are any indication, and the oil prices stay above $30 a barrel, we're going to have serious problems in the Northeast this winter unless we have that reserve, and we can move home heating oil in there in a hurry.

So let me just go through a couple of other things.

Fourth, I have for years now asked the Congress to fund research and development into alternative energy and into the partnership for new generation vehicles. I have proposed for over two years a $4 billion set of tax incentives for manufacturers and consumers to buy energy efficient cars, homes and consumer products.

I proposed a total spending of $1.4 billion this year for the Department of Energy for renewable energy for the development of natural gas, for distribution of power methodologies that will save consumers a lot of money. And on balance, Congress has approved about 12 percent of the funds I've asked to be spent for these things that will clearly lower energy bills and help the economy.

And the last thing I would say is: For two or three years, I've had the electricity restructuring bill up there that we estimate would save consumers in America $20 billion a year in energy costs by the more efficient distribution and sales of electricity.

So there are things that the Congress can do that I would hope they would do on a bipartisan basis, and do quickly, that would help us to have a better long-term energy policy and would begin to show immediate benefits for a lot of people who could take advantage of these laws, if we could just go ahead and pass them.

So we need to do the stripper wells, we need to pass the tax incentives to buy more energy efficient cars, homes and other products, and we need to stop spending about 12 percent a year of what we should be spending to develop alternative energy sources, and the Electricity Restructuring Act needs to pass. So those are things we can do together in a bipartisan way to show movement.

Meanwhile, we need an aggressive inquiry by the FTC. There is no economic explanation I can think of for the run-up in the prices, particularly in the Middle West, and I want this thing to continue.

QUESTION: Bill Richardson was grilled pretty badly yesterday by the Republicans and even Senator Byrd didn't make the secretary feel pretty good yesterday. What do you think of the hearing? (OFF-MIKE) do you still have full confidence in Richardson?

CLINTON: Well, first of all, I think that -- the short answer to your question is, yes, I do. He came in there and faced a whole host of problems, and I think that in every case he's dealt with them in a forthright and aggressive manner. They're getting to the bottom of this last issue I think pretty quickly, with the help of the -- the good work by the FBI and others.

But it's a very serious matter, so the administration should expect to be asked hard questions about it. And we should figure out not only what happened in this case, but how to keep such things from happening in the future.

And you have to expect that you'll have tough congressional hearings when you something really serious. And I don't have a problem with the tough hearing, but I do have confidence in him. He's worked on this to try to do the right thing.

QUESTION: What is your view of Senator Lott's handling of the China trade bill? And are you concerned that the delay is now endangering chances for final passage?

CLINTON: I was very concerned when I heard that the delay might run i into September.

Now I believe we have agreement, as you've seen reported and as you have reported, to bring up the China bill shortly after the 4th of July recess. Obviously I wish we could have voted on it before the 4th of July recess, but there are some issues there. There's some members in the Senate that want to offer amendments, just in the House, and some work to be done.

I met with a group of senators yesterday, a bipartisan group, and will continue to work it hard. But I think we're on schedule now for a timely vote. And I had a good visit with Senator Lott about it and I think we're on the same page, we're working together and I look forward to a successful conclusion of this in July.

QUESTION: In the upcoming mid-session review with the additional budget surplus you're anticipating, are you planning to propose a ski- up (ph) in the catastrophic coverage under your Medicare prescription (OFF-MIKE)?

CLINTON: Well, I'll have some more to say about that next week when we've got the formal numbers. But let me say, you know, as you have reported, there will be some upward provision in the projections and that's good news. I guess in this season, we ought to be crowing about it.

But we've come a long way over the last eight years by being prudent. And one of the things you can be sure I'll do is to reflect the recommendation that the vice president made that we wall off the -- serve that portion of the surplus due to Medicare taxes like we walled off that portion due to Social Security taxes.

So that we can pay down the debt more, and protect -- that would protect at least 20 percent of this projected surplus from either being spent or used on tax cuts.

But I think the most important thing you should remember is we don't have any of that money yet. That's what we think will happen.

And these are the -- keep in mind, when I became president, they were forecasting a $400 billion budget deficit for this year alone. And we worked very hard to turn that around.

We should invest more. We should have a substantial tax cut for our people focused on the things that are most needed. But we should remember what got us to the dance here. What got us to the dance, what got us to this unbelievable point to have this discussion at all, was discipline, fiscal discipline, arithmetic, being careful, understanding that, you know, a projection is just that.

And I think it would be a grave error to plan to spend every penny of this, particularly on tax cuts or other things that are so unavoidable, because they may not get it back. Now, you can say this is my plan for education, for example, if the money doesn't come up, then you don't have to spend it. But if you spend all this in tax cuts or some other mandated fashion on the front end, and it doesn't materialize, then you will be right back to the deficits, right back in the higher interest rates.

And I think, frankly, just the whole legislative process, if that's the track we're on, would lead to an immediate increase in interest rates which would slow the economy down and keep those surpluses from materializing.

So my caution to everybody involved in this, is prudence. We got here by being disciplined and prudent. Don't get off of that. Keep paying the debt down, and there'll be more money than there would be if you tell everybody how you're going to spend it, and then it doesn't show up.

QUESTION: But won't there be greater room for debt reduction as well as greater tax relief and other changes?

CLINTON: Yes, you can have both, but you can't -- but I think it's a mistake to plan to spend it all. Because what are you going to do if it doesn't materialize, particularly if you plan to spend it all in -- on the tax side, because if you do that and the money doesn't materialize, the tax cuts are still in the law. You can say, well, if it comes I would like to spend it on certain things, and then if it doesn't show up, you don't spend it, because we do the spending every year.

So I'll have more to say about it next week when we'll have more time to talk about it in detail.

QUESTION: Sir, on Colombia. After the Senate's endorsement last night of the appropriation, are you optimistic that you'll get the funding for Operation Colombia before -- because there's so much ground it will be impossible to make it back up?

CLINTON: Well, first, I'd like to compliment the Senate and the bipartisan vote. I'm grateful for it.

As you know, there were some differences in the Senate bill and the House bill. First of all -- not in substantial financial difference, I think about $300 million over two years and then some differences in how the money would be allocated.

But I'm encouraged that we could maybe get the differences between the Senate proposal and the House proposal worked out.

The second part of your question is really a question that neither I nor anyone else is qualified to answer; that is, it requires conjecture. I think, as I have said all along, sooner is better than later. The quicker we can reach agreement and show that the United States is committed to a democracy and to fighting the drug wars in Colombia and to strengthening the oldest democracy in Latin America, the better off we're going to be. And the quicker we do it, the quicker the Colombians will be able to get Europeans and others, who are very sympathetic with them, to come in and do their part. The more appealing it will be for the international financial institutions.

We haven't had a chance to talk about this much because there's so many other things going on, but those people are -- they're in the fight of their lives for their very way of life, with the combined pressure of a guerrilla war that's been going on for decades and the rise of the narco traffickers over the last two decades.

I don't think the average American can imagine what it would be like to live in a country where a third of the country on any given day may be in the hands of someone that is an enemy -- an adversary of the nation-state. I don't think we can even imagine what that would be like just, you know, driving through Washington, D.C., and you've got a one in three chance of being in a neighborhood that your government and the law of the land doesn't prevail in

This is a huge, huge issue. And again, I'm grateful to the Senate, and I'm grateful it was done on such a bipartisan basis. And we just need to get it done as quickly as possible.

Now, on Monday or so, I'll be back with something on the mid- session review, and we'll have a chance for more questions next week.

Thank you.

BILL HEMMER, CNN ANCHOR: President Clinton at the White House now heading off to two different stops, Arizona as well as California, talking about a number of issues there, as you heard, for the past 20 minutes or so: the China trade bill, prescription drugs, off the top, and also gas prices at great length. President Clinton calling the current situation with gas prices, quote, "a big problem that may rifle its way through the economy."

He's encouraging oil producing countries and companies to keep their per-barrel cost of oil between $20 and $25. Lately, it's been well over $30 and we can see the effect on many consumers throughout the country, especially in the middle part of the country, Illinois and Wisconsin in many cases paying well over $2 a gallon of gasoline.

Major Garrett listening up there in Washington. Let's go back to Major and pick thing up more.

Major, hello.

MAJOR GARRETT, CNN WHITE HOUSE CORRESPONDENT: Good morning, Bill.

A classic example of what happens at the White House sometimes when the hot political issue of the day overtakes the message of the day at the White House. The president clearly wanted to emphasize his disagreement with House Republican over their just-passed -- at least at the committee level -- prescription drug bill, but the dominant issue in the country right now, and the polls clearly reflect it, rising gasoline prices.

The president stopped short of what Vice President Gore has said. Vice President Gore has said he clearly believes there is either some collusion or price gouging on behalf of oil companies. The president said this, however: that he could think of no, quote, "economic reason for the increased spike of gas prices." That's as close as the president has come. He wants to rely on the Federal Trade Commission to investigate the matter.

A couple of things in dispute, though, that are likely going to play out in the presidential election. Republicans criticize the Clinton administration for having no coherent energy policy. What would Republicans like to do? Well, they'd like to open up more off- shore oil drilling, they would like to open up the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge for oil drilling, and they think the administration should be tougher with the OPEC countries.

Now, the OPEC countries yesterday announced a slight increase in production, about 700,000 barrels a day. The Republicans think the administration should use the clout and the prestige of the United States to increase that oil production. The administration follows by saying, much as the president did just a few moments ago, that the Congress should support other alternative fuels and resources that Congress could spend that could help deregulate electricity, other things such as that.

Republicans argue that those are long-term solutions and what the president needs to do is jaw-bone OPEC more directly, increase projection so Americans can have lower prices of gasoline during the summer months -- Bill.

HEMMER: Major, let's pick up on the idea of collusion there. A lot of skeptics out there think, indeed, that's what is taking place. But even if there is an investigation on the collusion matter, how long would it take to either get to the bottom of it, to decide yes, indeed, it's happening, or no, it's not, there is no evidence?

GARRETT: Well, the president gave an indication of how he hopes this will sort itself out. He made specific mention of the fact that when the FTC made it clear that it was going to conduct a vigorous investigation, there was a 16-cent drop in some prices of gasoline in some parts of the country. The administration privately has been telling CNN that they hope that that's the way that this will go, that pressure from regulatory agencies will get the oil companies to respond.

However, there was a report released by an independent congressional investigative body yesterday that said that the reformulated gasoline required by the EPA does, in fact, cost more: It costs more to produce and it costs more to ship. As much as 50 percent -- 50 cents, rather, if the increase in gas prices, at least in Milwaukee and Chicago, this congressional report said, could be linked to this reformulated gasoline required by the Environmental Protection Agency.

Republicans will also say on the campaign trail that the president and his environmental policy is at least some way causing these higher gas prices. But the president said, as you heard, no, no, only two or thee cent could be attributed to the reformulated gasoline requirements, and that this may be an oil company problem.

I think you're going to -- it may very well be that a classic competition between the environmental voices within the administration and the sympathetic free-market oil company voices in the Republican Party will clash on this issue continuously -- Bill.

HEMMER: Only June 22, already a summer to remember. Major Garrett live at the White House. Major, thanks to you again.

The president now heading west, but the issue of gas prices will continue; prescription drugs maybe on the floor of the House for a vote next week. We'll track it, let you know what happens from Washington.

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