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America's New War

Aired September 16, 2001 - 04:00   ET


JIM CLANCY, CNN ANCHOR: Once visible for miles, from land, sea and air. Now only smoke from the battered Twin Towers, looming over New York.


GEORGE W. BUSH, U.S. PRESIDENT: We're at war. There's been an act of war declared upon America by terrorists.


RALITSA VASSILEVA: He's not mincing words. George W. Bush prepares America for a prolonged anti-terrorism campaign.

CLANCY: And bagpipes wailing a tribute to men who sacrificed their lives in the line of duty.

VASSILEVA: From the CNN center in Atlanta, I'm Ralitsa Vassileva.

CLANCY: And I'm Jim Clancy. This is CNN's continuing coverage of America's new war.

Well, crews in Lower Manhattan have located a chilling clue. They've discovered a passport belonging to one of the suspected hijackers.

It was found several blocks from the crash site, prompting investigators to widen the search area.

In another development Saturday, the FBI said it had arrested a second person on a material witness warrant, and meanwhile rescue, recovery and clean-up crews are working full steam through the night.

The list of the missing has swelled to nearly 5,000. One hundred fifty-nine bodies have been recovered from the devastated site.

The Justice Department releasing more information about the alleged hijackers and the terrorist network thought to have sponsored Tuesday's attacks, CNN has obtained photos of eight of those suspected hijackers.

From American Airlines Flight 11, which hit the World Trade Center's north tower, Mohamed Atta, Waleed Alshehri, Abdulaziz Alomari, and Waleed Al Shaheri (ph).

From the United Airlines flight 175 which hit the World Trade Center's South Tower, Marwan Al-Shehhi.

And from United Airlines Flight 93 which crashed in rural Pennsylvania, Saeed Alghamdi, Ahmed Alhaznawi, and Ziad Samir Jarrah.

VASSILEVA: One hundred and eighty-seven people are now missing and presumed dead in the attack on the Pentagon.

U.S. Defense officials say the damage to the structure will be in the hundreds of millions of dollars. They say they don't expect to find anyone alive in the rubble.

On Saturday, Defense has announced the first confirmed death in the attack. Edward Thomas Earhardt, of Saltlick, Kentucky, was 26 years old.

And the latest on the Pentagon investigation, now, two suspected hijackers aboard the plan-- the plane-- that slammed into the Pentagon were already under U.S. government surveillance.

Authorities say one of them was seen on a surveillance tape, meeting with the suspects in the bombing of the USS Cole.

CLANCY: The Cole bombing, of course, took place last October in Yemen. Suicide bombers in a small boat pulled up alongside the ship, saluted and then detonated their charges.

VASSILEVA: U.S. officials said from the start that they suspected associates of Osama bin Laden.

Eileen O'Connor takes a look now at the Cole connection.


EILEEN O'CONNOR, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): They booked the tickets on American Airlines Flight 77 from Washington to Los Angeles on Travelocity, using a New Jersey address at MailBoxes Etc., and names U.S. officials confirm were known to them-- Khalid Al-Midhar and Saleem Alhamzi.

Once on board, together with Alhamzi's brother and an old roommate, a known pilot, they took over the flight, crashing it into the Pentagon.

Within minutes, the facade of a symbol of American strength crumbled.

As the search and rescue efforts continue, sources say the FBI was informed that Khalid Al-Midhar and Saleem Alhamzi were associated with Osama bin Laden and the bombing of the USS Cole.

One source confirms they had concrete evidence Al-Midhar had met with the man who was later involved in the attack on the Cole.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: One was, one was kind of short, and the other two was tall.

O'CONNOR: Al-Midhar was a frequent visitor of Alhamzi and his brother Nawaq in the San Diego apartment complex.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: They was always together. They left, it was together. They come back, they was together.

O'CONNOR: They hung out a lot at the pool, despite telling their neighbors they were studying at a nearby college.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You'll see three of them in the pool swimming, or you see the dude always looking out the window, another one outside the door on the phone.

O'CONNOR: At one point they left, telling one landlord they were in Arizona, living in different cities at different addresses, as it turns out, rooming with another hijacker aboard that plane-- Hani Hanjour.

Hani attended this flying school, CRM Cockpit Resource Management, but left without a certification.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: He was kind of a waste of time. He wouldn't show up for flights on time, didn't do his homework.

O'CONNOR: Not a promising student, but skilled enough to carry out the mission.

Eileen O'Connor, CNN, Washington.


VASSILEVA: The U.S. Defense Department is mobilizing to secure potential targets, throughout the U.S.. Military leaders are calling it Operation Noble Eagle.

CNN's Mark Potter joins us now from the Pentagon in Washington-- Mark.


There's a report today in the Washington Post that's causing a lot of interest here at the Pentagon. It says that Pentagon officials were caught by surprise by the hijacked jet that crashed into the building last Tuesday.

According to the newspaper, the Federal Aviation Administration told the nation's military air defense command that a hijacked plane was heading toward Washington. That was 12 minutes before the planes hit the Pentagon, fighter jets were scrambled immediately.

But according to the paper, the Washington Post, at the Pentagon, Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld and his top aides were unaware of the potential danger until the impact of the plane.

And those in charge of guarding the building were not told and didn't order an evacuation.

This morning a spokesman for the U.S. Air Force would not comment on that report.

Now, here at the Pentagon this morning, workers continue to dig through the rubble searching for victims as they have been doing for several days, 24 hours a day. They're shoring up the building. The search for the victims progresses.

And earlier, the Pentagon released another video-- a video, a very dramatic video-- that was shot by a tech sergeant from the Air Force on the day that the plane hit, right after the plane it. And it shows the building collapsing in on itself, in the area hit by the plane.

They also released a video showing the inside of the structure, showing the massive damage. It also provides evidence of the human toll, proving, of course what we know, that people were working here at the time that the plane hit.

The jet struck an area of the Pentagon that had just been renovated and had been reinforced. And officials say that was fortuitous, because it reduced the damage and may have saved many lives.


UNIDENTIFIED MALE: This was a terrible tragedy and people lost their lives. But I'm here to tell you that, had we not undertaken this effort in the building, this could have been much, much worse.


POTTER: Now, the death toll here is believed to be 188. That's 124 personnel from the Pentagon, 64 passengers aboard the airliner.

Now, grieving families of the victims were allowed to come by the Pentagon crash site, and they were escorted in, they were brought in in buses, escorted by police and taken care of by military officials.

They were allowed to leave flowers and mementos at the site and near the site, and for many it appeared to be a very emotional moment.

Meanwhile, the Pentagon prepares to call up 35,000 reservists for what it is calling Operation Noble Eagle, a mission to provide homeland defense and disaster relief.

Back to you.

VASSILEVA: Mark, we heard President Bush telling Americans to prepare for war. There are warnings about risks that lie ahead, not only for the American troops that might be involved, but also for American civilians.

What kind of preparations are being made for their protection?

POTTER: Well we don't really know that. We know that the Pentagon is working on this issue, of course, as you might expect, but the details are few and far between.

We are not getting any indication that-- that an attack is imminent. But we are being told that the Pentagon expects that it is a mission that could take casualties. That's been a concern in the past, but-- and a reason not to have extended military campaigns.

But this time, because this was an attack on the United States, military officials are telling CNN that it is acceptable to receive casualties. It is something that would not thwart them in an extended and long-term campaign. Excuse me.

Back to you.

VASSILEVA: Mark, thank you.

And President Bush met with members of his national security team at Camp David, Saturday, to discuss the U.S. response to Tuesday's attack.

Speaking at the meeting, the President's message was unequivocal.


BUSH: They will try to hide. That will-- we're at war. There's been an act of war declared upon America by terrorists. And we will respond accordingly.

And I appreciate very much the American people understanding that.


VASSILEVA: In his weekly radio address, Mr. Bush said he was planning a broad and sustained campaign, but asked the American people to be patient. Jim.

CLANCY: Ralitsa, President Bush also said that Osama bin Laden would be, in his words,"sorely mistaken, if he thinks he can hide from the United States".

Mr. Bush also called him the prime suspect, but then later took care to point out other groups may be involved.

For more on the Bush team's focus this weekend, let's turn now to Major Garrett. He's in Washington-- Major.

MAJOR GARRETT, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Jim, the Bush team's focus is many-layered, multi-dimensional-- reviewing target lists, reviewing military options with his top national security advisers.

Also the President is monitoring on a regular basis new developments to the investigation.

He met, as you said, this morning, with his top national security advisers, also, the Attorney General John Ashcroft-- all of them providing the latest information to the President.

And there's also a very significant effort underway to enlarge the coalition to support this war the President said is about to be declared against global terrorism.

There were some encouraging signs from the Bush administration on a couple of fronts on Saturday. One, conversation between the President and Pakistani president Pervez Musharraf, to discuss Pakistan's pledge of full cooperation with the United States, including providing vital human intelligence about the possible whereabouts of Osama bin Laden, and airspace, should it be required, for any military strike the United States might, in fact, want to carry out within the borders of Afghanistan.

Also, the President talked to the presidents of Spain and Mexico, part of his ongoing effort to include other nations in the ever enlarging coalition the United States hopes to unleash against the perpetrators of the terrorist acts on Tuesday.

And in talking to reporters at Camp David, the promise-- the President said, not only that the nation is at war, but that he promised victory in that war.


BUSH: We're at war. There's been an act of war declared upon America by terrorists. And we will respond accordingly. And I appreciate very much the American people understanding that.

As we plan, as we put-- put our strategy into action, we will let you know when we think it's appropriate, not only for-- to protect the lives of our service men and women, but to make sure our coalition has had proper time to be noticed, as well.

But we're going to act.


GARRETT: Jim, that response from the President was from persistent questions from reporters out at Camp David, about the specifics of military options being weighed.

The White House has made clear, it's not ruling out anything, not ruling out any military option, including the use of ground troops.

And there's also a significant statement the President made there, about making sure coalition partners are given advance notice.

That's significant, in part because on Saturday, the Arab League said it would cooperate and support U.S. military efforts, provided it received some advance notice of what those military efforts, in fact, would be-- Jim.

CLANCY: Major Garrett, there's a lot of questions from people that are being called upon in order to participate in that coalition.

One of the major questions seems to be, what are the terms that the Bush administration is laying out, here?

First of all, let's handle this one. Seems to be a sense that there's a take it-- you're either with us or you're against us. And there's a sense here that if you don't participate in this coalition, you could find yourself isolated from this administration. True?

GARRETT: Absolutely true, Jim. This is a clear and defining moment the Bush administration sees for those who have been allies of the United States before in a global pursuit of terrorism, and those who have not.

The administration is arguing that the world changed-- not just American, but the world changed on Tuesday, that this attack against the United States could have just as easily have been carried out against many other democratic, and what the administration would argue, civilized nations around the globe.

And if you do not join with the United States now, you will forever-- at least in the opinion of the United States-- be branded as someone who would not step up to the plate, who would not provide the necessary means to support the United States.

And the administration makes it very clear, Jim, that it's not just military support that it's talking about. It is support dealing with finances, finding ways to choke off the financial flow to terrorists, not only Osama bin Laden, but others who may be aligned with him.

It's also talking about diplomatic isolation. So this works at many layers-- military, diplomatic, financial.

Secretary of State Colin Powell said today, out at Camp David, one thing that I think is significant. He said, we are receiving expressions of support from around the world, and not just rhetorical support.

That's been a huge question. Is this support just words, and words only?

Secretary of State Powell said at Camp David today, we are receiving real support for whatever may lay ahead in this campaign, a signal the United States, at least so far, is confident that it's not just going to be rhetoric, but real assets-- military, financial and diplomatic-- that will come to bear once it starts this campaign against global terrorism. Jim.

CLANCY: Major Garrett, one more question. Just briefly, on the other side, there is a concern among the states that are being called into this coalition that the United States has a history of entering these kinds of things, going into areas it doesn't understand, cultures it doesn't understand, and simply not listening to the advice of its allies.

Is this administration ready to not only ask them to come into a coalition, but once they're in it, listen to them, to their counsel?

GARRETT: Well certainly, Jim, every outward statement from the administration indicates that. And when the President calls upon the country for patience and a sense that this is a multi-layered campaign he is about to wage, I think he's trying to get to some of those nuances.

Of course, American history, as you said, is replete with examples of very fast, furious U.S. actions, sometimes misunderstood, sometimes ham-handed. And oftentimes it happens, the U.S. pulls back and everyone is left wondering what the ultimate goal was in the first place.

The administration knows it's under considerable pressure on the international front to prove that's not going to be the case this time.

It's not promising a miracle of perfection, but it is certainly working to assure those who join this coalition that the U.S. effort will be complete, as nuanced as possible, and, as the President said today-- effective. Jim.

CLANCY: All right. Major Garrett, there, reporting from Washington the latest.

Now, former Secretary of State Henry Kissinger is saying the attacks show the world can no longer afford to allow countries to shelter and assist any terrorist group.

He says the U.S. needs to live up to its word to equally punish those who harbor terrorists, and the response needs to be extensive.


HENRY KISSINGER, FORMER U.S. SECRETARY OF STATE: Now that this outrage has been committed, we should not stop until the back of these terrorist networks have, has been broken.


VASSILEVA: And now we move on for-- to the latest, from the scene of the World Trade Center. We turn to Gary Tuchman in New York, where we've been reporting, crews are still in rescue and not recovery mode-- Gary.

GARY TUCHMAN, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Ralitsa, you know, this is not the first time an airplane has slammed into the tallest building in the United States.

The date was July 28th, 1945. A U.S. military plane lost in the fog slammed into the seventy-ninth story of the Empire State Building, then the tallest building in New York. Fourteen people were killed.

Many people thought history was rewriting itself when they saw a plane smash into the North Tower of the World Trade Center on Tuesday, particularly people over the age of 60 who remembered the 1945 incident.

But then another plane slammed into the South Tower of the World Trade Center, and people realized this was much different.

We're showing you pictures shot by a filmmaker who lives two blocks away from the World Trade Center, who stepped out on her balcony after the first plane smashed into the building.

It's hard to imagine how frightening this must have been for the people inside the building. A plane flying through the top half of the World Trade Center.

You can see, if you look very closely, people waving curtains or clothes or sheets. It's hard to tell. But the horror they must have gone through, for some of those people to actually jump out of the building instead of waiting there, knowing they were falling to a certain death.

Now, we are entering the sixth day of the search, and we have a live picture to show you of the hundreds of workers who are still out there, around the clock, ever since this all happened Tuesday.

Four thousand nine hundred seventy-two people are still missing. Five survivors have been found, but they were all found the day of, or the day after. No survivors have been found over the last three days.

One of the finds made today was very sad and very poignant. A dump truck working on the scene pulled out of the rubble a fire truck-- a fire truck that said Ladder 18 on it. It was crushed. it was gray from all the rubble.

There was no one inside the fire truck, but we have absolutely no idea what happened to the people, the firemen and/or the firewomen, who drove that truck to the scene.

What we do know is time is running out to find any survivors.

And we also wanted to mention to you a sad irony. As we mentioned to you, talking about the Empire State Building to start off this report, once again, the Empire State Building is the tallest building in New York City.

Ralitsa, back to you.

VASSILEVA: Gary, how long are they holding out hope that survivors, possibly trapped in some pocket, could make it before they are found?

TUCHMAN: Ralitsa, there's certainly precedent for people surviving for many, many days. We've seen that in earthquakes around the world. People trapped under the rubble and after eight days come out and are still alive.

However, there's also precedent in recent American history that isn't so good-- the Oklahoma City bombing. They found survivors the day of and the day after. But they didn't find one survivor after that.

VASSILEVA: Gary, thank you -- Jim.

CLANCY: Well, you know, it's-- it was a sad scene, and there's going to be so many more of these. Funeral services for several victims of the attacks were held Saturday in New York City.

Hundreds of firefighters and police attended services for Peter Ganci. He's the Chief of the New York Fire Department.

Ganci, a 33-year department veteran. And the City's First Deputy Fire Commissioner, also remembered Saturday. William Feehan had spent almost 40 years with the department.

VASSILEVA: So sad. Fire Department Chaplain, Father Mychael Judge was killed by debris from one of the collapsing twin towers.

Father Judge was eulogized as someone who, quote, "loved to be in a crisis so he could insert God into what was going on."

CLANCY: Police officers, fire fighters, even journalists, regularly risk their lives doing their jobs. But they're not immune from the emotions of harrowing events like Tuesday's.

CNN's Richard Blystone reports on one photographer who escaped death twice in his quest to capture the images of the day.


RICHARD BLYSTONE, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Surgery is going to keep news photographer David Handschuh away from some friends' funerals. But this one, he wasn't going to miss.

Because, in the line of duty, he saw a lot of Father Mike Judge, the fire fighters' chaplain, who was killed Tuesday while giving last rites to a fireman.

DAVID HANDSCHUH NEWS PHOTOGRAPHER: He would hold your hand and you would just feel good. He emanated some form of just positive goodwill that, that nobody else I've ever met could, by just touching you, by putting his hand on you and giving you a hug, you just floated away, happy.

BLYSTONE: Many of those in the overflow crowd had narrow escapes that day. David Handschuh had two.

HANDSCHUH: You heard the sound and then the building starts falling down in slow motion. And I'm a photographer. The initial reaction was to raise the camera and to take a picture. But something up here said, just run. And in 20-plus years I've been doing this, I've never once run from a-- I've never once run from anything.

But it probably saved my life. The wall of debris just-- that came flying down just picked me up and threw me (UNINTELLIGIBLE) block (ph).

BLYSTONE: One leg shattered, the other torn up. Firemen pulled him to a delicatessen. Another photographer captured that moment, but it wasn't over.

HANDSCHUH: When the second building collapsed, the facade of that building was blown in. We were trapped, once again.

Using their hands and tools, and sheer strength and will, they pushed their way out.

BLYSTONE: For news photographers, cameramen, reporters, days like that are part of an unwritten contract with life.

So, too, with soldiers, policemen, firemen-- which doesn't make it much easier.

But the thousands still missing downtown, they didn't sign up for this.

HANDSCHUH: I'm so sorry that so many people lost their lives over this. It's not comprehensible.


HANDSHUCH: Not right.

BLYSTONE: At the end, the photographer pulled out his camera. It may not make much of a picture, but this one's personal.

Richard Blystone, CNN, New York.


VASSILEVA: Friends remembered lawyer and commentator Barbara Olson at a service Saturday in Washington.

VASSILEVA: Olson was among the 64 passengers and crew who were killed on American Airlines Flight 77, which crashed into the Pentagon. Olson was a frequent contributor to CNN programs and the wife of the U.S. Solicitor General.

Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas spoke at the service. He said Olson, quote, strove boldly through life, full of cheer and verve, shying from no challenge or obstacle.

CLANCY: We want to give you now the latest from the crash scenes. Rescue, recovery and clean-up crews continuing to work throughout the night, as they have been, at the site of the World Trade Center disaster.

Saturday, crews pulled a fire truck that was buried in the debris, out. One hundred fifty-nine bodies have been recovered from the devastated area so far.

No survivors were found, again, on Saturday. Almost 5,000 people are believed lost, somewhere in that rubble.

Crews also discovered a passport belonging to one of the suspected hijackers. It was found several blocks from the crash site, prompting investigators now to widen their search of the area.

Officials at the Pentagon still assessing the damage there. They estimate it will cost hundreds of millions of dollars to repair that building.

Now massive amounts of manpower are being devoted to what the Justice Department calls the Pent-Bomb (ph) Probe.

The investigation is the largest in U.S. history. It involves 4,000 FBI agents and more than 3,000 support personnel.

VASSILEVA: The family of one suspected hijacker is speaking out. They say they're shocked by Tuesday's tragic events, and that the man they knew showed no sign of being capable of such atrocities.

Brent Sadler has the story.


BRENT SADLER, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): A possible White House suicide pilot? Or the face of an innocent passenger? Twenty-six-year-old Ziad Jarrah, from Lebanon.

The United States Justice Department says he was one of the hijackers on United Flight 93, which crashed in a field some 18 miles from Pittsburgh shortly after three other jets struck the World Trade Center and the Pentagon.

Flight 93, whose passengers might have wrestled the hijackers, causing the plane to crash, could have been targeting the very heart of America and President Bush himself.

In Lebanon's Bekaa Valley, though, Ziad Jarrah's family insists there's no hard evidence to prove any of that.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: He never acted or talked any way in that you could have an understanding that he might be related to this.

SADLER: In Germany, investigators now say that technical university in Hamburg, with its now closed prayer room, is where Jarrah and two other alleged hijackers studied-- Mohamed Atta, whom U.S. authorities believe was aboard the first plane to hit the World Trade Center, and Marwan Al-Shehhi, flying in the second aircraft to hit the twin towers.

Ziad Jarrah's family are Sunni Muslims, well educated and well to do. They spoke of a young man whose personality, they claim, does not fit the profile of an Islamic fundamentalist bent on terror.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: He has his girlfriend. He go to night clubs. He bring sometimes. His way of life can't be related to these parts.

SADLER: Ziad Jarrah's way of life away from home started in Germany. He began to study engineering four years ago, on courses paid for by proud parents.

Around a year ago, he told them he was in the United States taking part in a Boeing Aircraft Corporation seminar, related to his studies. After that, he returned to Hamburg, receiving more help from his parents to study.

When he later told them he was in Florida, training as a pilot, they assumed all was well.

His last call home came two days before the suicide attacks, when he thanked his ailing father for sending more money.

His apartment manager says he paid cash weekly for one-bedroom accommodation, and presented a German passport with a student visa.

On May 2nd this year, he obtained a Florida driver's license. The same day, another terrorist suspect, Mohamed Atta, got his Florida driver's license.

The only time he raised concern, they say, is when his Turkish girlfriend told them she thought he might have gone with friends to Afghanistan while they were separated for several weeks.

The family says there's no proof of any trip to Afghanistan, and are willing to cooperate with the international inquiry.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: What happened is a tragedy and a catastrophe for all people. And we don't agree on these acts, and we are surprised and shocked of what happened.

SADLER: The Lebanese authorities are stressing that neither the government nor its people at large have any links with the terror attacks against America, regardless of suspicions focused on one of its citizens. Standing ready, say officials here, to cooperate with investigations in any way they can.

Brent Sadler, CNN, Beirut.


VASSILEVA: Crackdowns in Europe have netted several arrests. In Brussels, Belgium, two men believed to have been planning an attack on American interests in Europe were charged with possession of weapons of war.

CLANCY: Now the two also face other counts, for a total of four each. Authorities say they were members of a radical Muslim group and that they may have been part of a possible terrorist network. We get more on this story now from Diana Muriel.


DIANA MURIEL, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): It was at this apartment building in a prosperous part of Brussels that one of the two suspects was arrested on Thursday. Fellow residents say they did not know the man, a Tunisian, who was charged on Friday on one count of criminal association.

The other, a Belgian of North African origin, was arrested at another apartment in this district. He has also been charged with criminal association, as well as attempting to destroy property with explosives, being a member of a private militia, and illegal possession of weapons of war.

One automatic pistol was recovered by the police, together with ammunition and documentation that points to a planned series of attacks on American interests in Europe.

He is strongly suspected to belong to an extremist Islamic movement, but there's nothing to confirm that they belong to the bin Laden organization. But that's also not being ruled out.

The documents are currently being analyzed by the investigating authorities. No details are yet available. But some European media, including the widely respected French newspaper "La Figaro" have identified the American Embassy in Paris as one of the targets.

The Belgian prosecutors' office believes the two men have links with an unnamed radical Islamic organization.

At this point, we cannot confirm which country in Europe is being targeted, but the investigation will soon determine that. But there's no doubt the target is American interests.

The arrests in Brussels were part of a joint operation with police in the Netherlands. Four men were arrested in Rotterdam on Friday.

The investigation here into the activities of the two suspects continues. Meanwhile, it is widely expected, although not yet officially confirmed by the authorities here, that two French magistrate specialists in terrorism will come to Brussels on Monday to consult on the case.

Diana Muriel, CNN Brussels.


VASSILEVA: Iran says it will take steps to seal its long borders with Afghanistan. Both Iran and Pakistan are at risk of receiving a flood of refugees in the event of a United States military strike on Afghanistan. Some Afghans are already anticipating the strike and leaving their homes. Western aid agencies have already pulled out of Kabul, further worsening the situation for displaced Afghans.

CLANCY: And Afghanistan's ruling Taliban continue to assert that Osama bin Laden could not have been involved in these attacks, but the exiled Saudi multimillionaire remains "a prime suspect," in the words of President Bush. A little earlier, CNN interviewed a biographer of Osama bin Laden. We asked by bin Laden might target the U.S.


UNIDENTIFIED MALE: He believes that the Muslim world could have surged and become a leading superpower in the aftermath of the collapse of communism, that Islam could have become the leading political ideology of the world, and that Westernization-- the penetration of the West, overwhelming influence of the West (UNINTELLIGIBLE) et cetera prevent it from happening.


CLANCY: Well, the United States is, of course, working to build up international support for any possible military action they might take. And they might be using the Gulf War coalition as a kind of a model.

VASSILEVA: And now the target of that operation, Iraqi President Saddam Hussein, is offering his perspective of the U.S. attacks and possible retaliation.

CNN's Rula Amin has more on that.


RULA AMIN, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Iraq's president, Saddam Hussein, in a message to the American people, appealed for serenity.

"America needs wisdom, not power that has U.S. power along with the West to the extreme extent only to find out later that it doesn't achieve what they want to. Won't the rulers of America try wisdom just for once so that their people can live in security and stability?"

The tone of this letter, read on state television, more muted than his first reaction. The day after Tuesday's attack, he had said despite the conflicting human feelings, what happened was a result of America's foreign policy if the attackers were indeed not Americans, he said.

And he pointedly did not condemn the attacks. He's still not condemning them, but this time, he called the attacks "evil inflicted on America" and called for restraint.

He also referred to the harassment of Arab Americans and American Muslims in the United States. He said that, despite the pain he says Arabs and Muslims have suffered from the United States, he says they never harassed Westerners who walked in the streets of Baghdad and other Arab capitals. In his 12-page letter, Saddam Hussein questioned the motives of any military attack. And although he acknowledged U.S. might, he questioned the use of it.

"We ask again American aiming the fire of its weapons on a specific target, harming it, or destroying it with the support of the West, would it solve the problem?"

The official newspapers which had (UNINTELLIGIBLE) comments on Tuesday echoes the same line.

As for Iraqis, the government wouldn't allow us to interview them. Iraqis blame the United States for their ten years of suffering under UN sanctions. They also remember the loss of lives they suffered during the Gulf War.

The people we talked to off camera had conflicting feelings. On one hand, they were satisfied to see the American government under attack. On the other hand, they sympathized with the victims. They told us they know very well what's it like to be one.

But mostly they don't believe Iraq was involved and fear the United States will use the attacks as an excuse to get Iraq. Many say with the unlimited support the U.S. has now, the United States won't have to show solid proof if it decides that Iraq has either lent a hand to the attackers or supported other terrorists and that, again, the Iraqi people will be under the fire of U.S. might.

Rula Amin, CNN Baghdad.


CLANCY: Many people in the Arab world, from political leaders to the ordinary citizens on the streets, have been rocked by Tuesday's tragic events, not only because of the terrorism, the massive loss of life, but also wondering, how will it affect them.

Well, joining us now to get some reaction from the Arab community is Abdel Bari Atwan. He's the editor-in-chief of the London-based Arab newspaper, "Al Quds." Measure for us, if you will, the sentiment in the Arab world, the U.S. President calling on them to take part in a coalition, and the risks.

ABDEL BARI ATWAN, EDITOR-IN-CHIEF, "AL QUDS": Well, actually there are a great deal of confusion in the Arab worlds. You have the government in one hand and the people in the other hand. And there are-- there is a huge gap between government and people, simply because these governments are not elected. There is no democracy. And this gap widened during the (UNINTELLIGIBLE) of the Palestinians for the last 12 years.

Now, the Arabs actually have a great deal of sympathy with the victims of these bombings in Washington and New York. But the problem is they have a lot of buts. You know, these buts is, you know, why for example the American don't pay any sympathy when our people are dying, why the American administration didn't intervene to put an end to these sanctions to atrocities which committed (UNINTELLIGIBLE). Again, the governments are willing to help United States. The governments, they don't have any other choices, simply because most of Middle Eastern government, as I said, you know, either financed by United States or actually relying on United States military protection (UNINTELLIGIBLE).

CLANCY: All right.

ATWAN: So these countries are willing to help United States.

CLANCY: All right. But given that gap between the two sides-- certainly the Arab world is cognizant that the U.S. came to the assistance of Kuwait, no, they don't like the sanctions, there's a variety of opinions out there-- but as they take part in any coalition here, is it putting anybody at risk?

ATWAN: Oh yes, definitely. You know, the people in the streets actually -- OK and maybe a great deal of them supported what's happened, to actually push out Iraqi troops from Kuwait. But the problem they waited for 10 years, hoping that the American will implement exactly the UN Security Council on the Arab-Israeli conflict. So they didn't, so this really left a lot of bitterness among the Arab people in the streets there.

So now I think there could be a risk. This kind of, you know, government-- the Arab government support to United States against a Muslim fellow country which is extremely destroyed could create a lot of risk, could create a lot of destabilization for these moderate regimes ...


ATWAN: ... simply because, you know, they say-- sorry, go ahead.

CLANCY: I just want to ask you, I guess, kind of a bottom-line measure might be this.

ATWAN: Yes, OK. All right.

CLANCY: If someone in the Arab community-- in the Gulf or in the Middle East, had information about a terror group-- we know a lot of this so-called war is really going to be an intelligence war-- do you think they'd come forward with it?

ATWAN: Well, that depends, where is this person standing? If he is with the Arab government, definitely he will supply his governments with this information in order to pass it to the American intelligence. But if this man actually on the streets he will say, "Look, why shall I-- why shall I do this?" It depends if he belongs to Islamic minorities, you know, fundamentalist group, definitely he wouldn't be helpful.

So, you know what, I want to warn of something which is extremely important. It depends on how long this war it will take. If it is going to be a prolonged war, that definitely it will create a lot of stability in the Middle East. Definitely it will destabilize moderate regimes. It could create more-- it could fuel the, you know, the extremism in the Arab world. And if there are, you know, sort of, you know, civilian casualties here, it is (UNINTELLIGIBLE) you know, it could be a (UNINTELLIGIBLE).

So actually we have to look at the Muslim frustration from the American foreign policies and try to understand this. Without understanding this frustration, it could be really, really, really, you know, risky for American (UNINTELLIGIBLE).

And on top of that, we have a huge Western and American communities in the Middle East, you know. So we have to differentiate between, you know, those extremists and ordinary people. And I'm glad Western leaders actually were first to differentiate between extremism and the Arab and Muslim community in the United States and the West, because without that, it will-- could-- it could reflect badly on those Western people and the height of action or height of, you know, civilian casualties.


CLANCY: Abdel Bari, do you have the impression-- you know the Bush administration says it wants to go ahead with a coalition and bring these people in, but a comment that I've heard from the Arab side is, "But how much will you really listen when we tell you, look, you don't understand this? This isn't the way to attack this problem." Do you think the Bush administration will listen? And what will happen if they don't?

ATWAN: You know, the Bush administration made a grievous mistake-- a very, very-- actually big mistake when they didn't listen to the moderate Arabs who were calling them to intervene on the Middle East. They turned back completely to the Middle East. They undermined the-- oh, they misunderstood that, you know, or understood that frustration among the people from the American foreign policies.

Now I think it is time to listen. It is time to actually show a lot of sympathy toward the Arab grievances and Arab resentment toward the American policies. If they do that, it could help.

But actually with turning their back to these grievances, the deep root of the problems between the Arab and the American, definitely this will play to the hands of the extremists and definitely create the suitable atmosphere for them to cultivate, to mobilize, to recruit more radical element among the Arabs' frustrated people.

CLANCY: All right. Abdel Bari Atwan, we're going to have to leave it there. But thanks, as always, for your perspectives in this.

Well, India is giving its support to the United States. Indian External Affairs Minister Joswant Singh says his country will stand with the U.S. in its fight against terrorism.


JOSWANT SINGH, MINISTER OF INDIAN EXTERNAL AFFAIRS: What India stands for is really the establishment of a concert of democracies against terrorism, unified in purpose and in resolve. Because, as President Bush quite rightly has pointed out -- that the issue is really addressing ourselves to the system-- that mentality which gives birth to these kinds of attitude. It's not as if an individual has declared war against (UNINTELLIGIBLE) country like United States of America and United States, in turn, declaring war against an individual. It's the system that gives rise to all these tendencies.


CLANCY: That was Joswant Singh, talking to us by videophone. He told CNN, "New Delhi's government has met with some opposition parties who are supporting the fight against terrorism."

VASSILEVA: Russia is moving closer to supporting the United States, if it chooses military action in response to Tuesday's attacks.

And the Kremlin has another message for Washington. "We told you so."

CNN's Jill Dougherty explains.


JILL DOUGHERTY, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Russia is telling the West, "We tried to tell you." Terror in the United States or terror in Russia-- it's all controlled by international terrorist organizations," they say. The number one criminal suspect in both countries-- Osama bin Laden.

The FSB, successor to the KGB, tells CNN it knew where bin Laden was hiding before the attacks on the U.S., and informed other special services. He's since changed his location, the FSB says, but is still in Afghanistan. And the agency vows to find out where he is and inform its Western colleagues.

NIKOLAI PATRUSHEV, FSB: Russia has never tried to kill Osama bin Laden. We usually deal with infiltrating criminals, arresting them, and turning them over to the courts to be punished. That's what I think should be done; however, we have experience where, when a suspect offers armed resistance, in order to avoid casualties, it is possible to kill him.

DOUGHERTY: President Vladimir Putin says he's been warning the West since he took office that there is a worldwide network of fanatical terrorists, funded primarily by drug money. They're fighting in Chechnya, he claims, and they're responsible for a wave of apartment house bombings that hit Russia two years ago. But the West, Moscow says, spent too much time scolding Russia for how it dealt with the threat.

VLADIMIR PUTIN, RUSSIAN PRESIDENT: I think now they understand that it is not just our internal issue; it's a problem for the entire international community.

DOUGHERTY: Evil must be punished, says the Russian President.

PUTIN: But we should not become like bandits that act from behind (UNINTELLIGIBLE). We should consider our decisions and proceed from true facts.

DOUGHERTY: The attacks in the United States, he says, could be compared in scale and cruelty to what the Nazis were perpetrating. "I feel guilty for what has happened," Vladimir Putin says. "We spoke so much about this threat, but apparently not enough."

Jill Dougherty, CNN Moscow.


VASSILEVA: Well, the attacks and the ensuing fallout have hit the airline industry especially hard.

CLANCY: You know the airlines are saying they're losing millions of dollars. And though they're now flying again, all are operating on reduced schedules.

As Bruce Francis tells us, it's led to one announcing massive layoffs. And it seems others are certain to follow.


BRUCE FRANCIS, CNN-FN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Continental Airlines says it is furloughing 12,000 employees-- more than a fifth of its work force-- as it cuts 20 percent of its schedule.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Continental is just getting-- we're not going to be bankrupt first, I'll tell you that. But we're going to be first to move to prevent it. And I think that's the prudent thing to do.

FRANCIS: Northwest is also cutting it s schedule by 20 percent, although it hasn't announced any job reductions.

Most airlines are flying reduced schedules right now, but at a heavy loss. The airline industry has been losing as much as $275 million a day since Tuesday's terrorist attacks.

And even with most airports now open, the outlook is bleak with passengers reluctant to fly. Airlines face further constraints as pilots are called up for military reserve. At the same time, the carriers are paying for increased security measures. That's why Bethune and others are calling for a government bailout.

BETHUNE: I, now, and we-- all of us, call on the President of the United States and members of our Congress to take immediate action to restore the stability of this vital industry.

FRANCIS: A first attempt in Congress to provide $15 billion in assistance has failed. If the money is eventually approved, it may come too late for some airlines. Midway has already folded and seven of the top ten U.S. airlines lost money in the second quarter. Prior to the attacks, the industry was on a course to lose $2 billion this year. Analysts now say that could soar to $10 billion.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The financial situation is such that I really expect three to four small carriers to file for bankruptcy in the coming weeks and for the major airlines actually to lay off people. So it's a downward spiral.

FRANCIS: Airline chiefs will get their chance to voice their concerns directly to the Bush administration. Next week, they're going to sit down with Transportation Secretary, Norman Mineta. Potentially on the agenda, beefing up security without scaring away an already nervous public.

Bruce Francis, CNN Financial News, New York.


CLANCY: The New York Stock Exchange and the NASDAQ are scheduled to reopen for business on Monday.

Now, tests that were conducted yesterday showed that the data and communications systems are operable, even though the New York Stock Exchange was only about two blocks away from the Twin Towers when they were hit.

Now, the market's set to reopen 9:30 Monday morning. Members of the New York City Police and Fire Departments' Emergency Medical Service and others are going to be there. They're going to be ringing the opening bell as one way of honoring those who lost their lives Tuesday.

VASSILEVA: And the attacks on the World Trade Center left thousands of families with more questions than answers, more worries than certainties. And as CNN's Candy Crowley learned, both the pain and the hope come from not knowing.


DAVID VINCENT: Yes, Dan? Yes, this is David Vincent. How are you?

CANDY CROWLEY, CNN CORRESPONDENT: He's an Eastman Kodak executive from Webster, New York. A man with a problem to solve. A man on a mission.

VINCENT: How is it being set up, so that I can make the best use of my time, because you're working a timeline, here. You have-- you have to get to your daughter as fast as you can.

CROWLEY: Melissa is missing. She's a technology recruiter at Alliance Consulting.

VINCENT: But we know that there-- that's one hundred-and-second floor of Tower One.

CROWLEY: The enormity of what's happened in David Vincent's life shows on his face, but does not slow his step.

VINCENT: Please take a picture. Please focus on the picture to get her face out there so that anybody ...

CROWLEY: Working on three hours sleep and a couple of crackers, he protects his fondest hopes, battles his worst fears, and sometimes, loses.

VINCENT: I don't have any video of her. To be honest with you, Melissa didn't like to be videoed. She used to holler at me every time I did. I'd give anything to have her holler at me right now (SOBBING).

CROWLEY: I'd give anything, he says, to have her holler at me right now. It's a rare lapse. Mostly, there is a desperate monotony to his mission.

VINCENT: I know she made a 911 call at 9:02:07.

CROWLEY: It's all that David Vincent knows about what happened to his eldest daughter. It's enough to hang hope on.

VINCENT: When we went back to the cell phone provider, the only thing that we had, that they could tell us, is that there was a 911 call made from that cell phone at 9:02, which was some 17 minutes after the jet had plowed into the thing.

CROWLEY: 9:02:07-- he tells it to everyone he talks to. He clings to it for dear life because, of course, it is.

VINCENT: I need to know where she was when she made that call, because that will tell me whether she was downstairs, just getting off the path and maybe in a void someplace downstairs, or whether I have to understand that she was upstairs on 102 and have to wonder whether she was able to get out or not able to get out.

CROWLEY: By evening, David Vincent has pretty much worn out the corner of Twenty-sixth and Lexington. And his cell battery is fading, so he moves on.

Craig Spitzer is CEO of Alliance. Seven employees, everyone thought to be in the building that morning, are missing. He cannot-- will not-- bring himself to believe they're gone.

CRAIG SPITZER, CEO, ALLIANCE CONSULTING: I'm not going to say that to you right now.

CROWLEY: You can't.

SPITZER: No. And I won't. And I won't for myself and I won't for the people in there.

CROWLEY: "In there," is a room full of people who have loved someone too long to give up so soon. And what's left after hope is unthinkable. It is why they agree to expose this (UNINTELLIGIBLE) of human times to the glare of the camera lens, because maybe somebody out there has information about Roland, something that keeps his brother moving.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I go to sleep with hope and wake up with none.

CROWLEY: And perhaps somebody saw Eric in a stairwell, racing to safety.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We don't know. Maybe he's out there someplace-- got hit on the head and he doesn't know who he is. You know? Maybe he's unconscious and he didn't have any identification on him.

CROWLEY: And as it turns out, nobody can say for sure that Melissa was in the office for that 8:30 meeting.

VINCENT: I have to-- I have to tell you, Craig, that's the best news that I could possibly hear, because what you're telling me is you can't confirm Melissa in that ...

SPITZER: Correct. Correct.

VINCENT: office space. And that's what I had to know. That's what keeps me going.

CROWLEY: So if you know anything about Melissa, call her father. He'd give anything to hear her holler at him again.

Candy Crowley, CNN New York.


VASSILEVA: People in the United States and around the world continue to mourn the loss of those killed in Tuesday's terrorist attacks. In New York, thousands of people are still buried in what was the Twin Towers. Some of those spent their final moments telling family and friends good-bye. Here is one such story from Austin, Texas.

We apologize.

The people in the United States and around the world continue to mourn the loss of those killed in Tuesday's terrorist attacks. In New York, thousands of people are still buried in what was the Twin Towers. Here is one such story from Austin, Texas.


UNIDENTIFIED MALE: My brother was probably the kindest, nicest person I ever knew. He was the best friend I ever had and the moment that the plane crashed into the building he left me a message.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Hi, Casey. It's Ted. Something horrible is happening here. It sounds like an earthquake, (UNINTELLIGIBLE) everything's on fire. Casey, I know I'm about to die. Please tell Mom I love her dearly and I love you and Jody, too. Please forgive me for everything I've ever done to hurt you. I didn't think about the good times.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: What happened when somebody bombed the World Trade Center, they didn't just bomb a building. They touched human lives and he was a part of my life. And he was someone I loved so much. And I know he loved me, too. I feel like someone took something from me that never should have been taken from me, ever.


VASSILEVA: Nearly 5,000 people are believed to be still missing in New York as search and rescue efforts are ongoing. For friends and relatives looking for their loved ones, the focus of their search has been on the Manhattan Armory, where details of the missing are being registered.

Michael Okwu joins us now from there with the latest. Michael?

MICHAEL OKWU, CNN CORRESPONDENT: (UNINTELLIGIBLE), you know, there's a sense of complete weariness and sense of exhaustion that has gripped this city. So many people have shed so many tears. And in the coming days, no doubt, you will start hearing words and phrases that are used so often at times like this that they ring in your ears like cliches-- resolution, moving forward, a return to normalcy.

But the fact is, for so many, many people, those friends and family members connected to those who are buried under the ash and rubble of the World Trade Center, they will not be returning to normalcy. They try to find some kind of resolution here at the Armory on Lexington Avenue and Twenty-Sixth Street. Here is the emotional ground zero. They essentially fill out a seven-page form where they are supposed to supply identifiable traits of their loved ones-- everything from recognizable scars to the kind of nail polish they liked to wear. Then they're either put on the list of bodies that were taken to the hospital or officially entered on the list of the missing.

Since Thursday, 3,100 people have filed past these doors. Yesterday the New York City Health Department announced the fact that a medical lab company by the name of Labcorp is offering free DNA collections, which could ultimately help rescue workers identify the bodies. They're asked to provide toothbrushes, hair brushes, sample of saliva from the closest blood relatives-- anything that might have been used exclusively by that person who is missing, that might be able to help them connect something and therefore identify these people.

Early last night-- or late last night, I should say, I spoke to a young woman whose godmother is missing.


UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: This is the only way that they can identify, so we've come in with hair brushes, toothbrushes, her brother took a saliva sample for DNA and everyone's willing to do anything. But it's just a matter of waiting.


OKWU: While so many of us wonder what's next, obviously there are a few people out there who are still very much focused on perhaps what was. Ralitsa?

VASSILEVA: Michael, thank you.

And we will have more of CNN's continuing coverage of America's New War, at the top of the hour. For now, we leave you with images of heartbreak, healing, and hope.

I'm Ralitsa Vassileva.

CLANCY: And I'm Jim Clancy.

Search and rescue operations are ongoing at the former site of the World Trade Center, as workers there refusing to give up hope. Almost 5,000 people are missing.

VASSILEVA: The military announces the first confirmed death in the attack on the Pentagon, where 187 other people are missing and presumed dead.

CLANCY: And New York firefighters bid farewell to three of their own, including their chief. I'm Jim Clancy.

VASSILEVA: And I'm Ralitsa Vassileva at the CNN center. This is CNN's continuing coverage of America's New War.

And we begin with the latest developments. Searchers in New York City have found a passport belonging to one of the suspected hijackers. It was discovered several blocks from the World Trade Center crash site, prompting investigators to widen their search for evidence.

CLANCY: A Justice Department official also telling CNN a second person now in FBI custody on a material witness warrant. Now, the man is one of the 25 people who were detained by the U.S. Immigration authorities, and then questioned by the FBI. Another man was arrested as a material witness, if you'll remember, on Thursday.

Rescue workers, meantime, continue to sift through the rubble of the World Trade Center -- what was the World Trade Center. They're hoping to find survivors. On Saturday, though, they found none. New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani saying he does remain optimistic that perhaps, hoping against hope, someone may be still found alive.

VASSILEVA: Recovery efforts continue at the Pentagon as well. Authorities say 187 people are missing and presumed dead there. On Saturday, buses brought family members of the victims to the Pentagon. The mourners carried flowers and balloons as they walked around the site.

And as U.S. investigators probe more deeply into the terror attacks, some patterns are beginning to emerge. And Mike Boettcher has more of that.


MIKE BOETTCHER, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): To help them better understand the group of people that managed to successfully hijack four air crafts, investigators have put together a list of common characteristics of those 19 people. Let's take a look at the list.

The first two items: male, early twenties, that's obvious. But it also says they're likely to have Saudi passports, likely to have visas issued in Saudi Arabia, and also, clean-shaven and Western appearance.

Now, we also have another document, which was given as evidence in the African Embassy trial. And it is the Al-Qaeda training manual. Al-Qaeda, of course, the group U.S. officials say is the terrorist umbrella organization under Osama bin Laden and this is their operational manual. The thing that they gave to their operatives worldwide, telling them how to carry out an operation.

We thought we would compare this to the common characteristics on the list. Let's look at items number three and four: likely to have a Saudi passport, likely to have visas issued in Saudi Arabia. Let's see what the Al-Qaeda training manual says about that: "All documents of the Undercover Brothers, such as identity card and passport, should be falsified."

Now that means, if you look at the common characteristic list, it says most of them have Saudi passports. It's very likely, if this was an Al-Qaeda operation that those passports, or many of them, were falsified.

Let's go back to the common characteristics list. The last item: clean-shaven, Western appearance. Now, if you go into the operations manual, let's see what they tell their operatives to do in terms of appearance. It says, "the photograph of the brother in these documents should be without a beard."

So it was followed in this case, and there is one other item that is not a personal characteristic, but it's an operational characteristic. Item number seven in the operational manual of Al-Qaeda, when it talks about what targets to choose as blasting and destroying the embassies and attacking vital economic centers. If this was an Al-Qaeda operation, they did follow their manual to a T.


CLANCY: Well, President George W. Bush says, "those who planned these attacks are mistaken if they think that they're invisible." Mr. Bush is expected to hold talks with his security advisers again today at Camp David. The White House also in contact with governments all around the world. as the U.S. is trying to build up a coalition overseas, Mr. Bush asking for unwavering support back at home.


BUSH: We're at war. There's been an act of war declared upon America by terrorists, and we will respond accordingly. And I appreciate very much the American people understanding that.


CLANCY: British Prime Minister Tony Blair expressing support for any U.S. retaliation, but says it must be based on hard evidence.

VASSILEVA: Hundreds of British citizens are missing in the World Trade Center attack. We're about to hear more now from Mr. Blair, as we go to Christiane Amanpour in London for an exclusive interview with the Prime Minister. Christiane.

CHRISTIANE AMANPOUR, CNN SENIOR INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Good morning, Ralitsa, good morning, Jim. Prime Minister Tony Blair was one of the first of the U.S. allies to come out and say categorically that the United Kingdom stands shoulder to shoulder with the United States. He also said that Britain's interests are intimately engaged because of the high number of British casualties.


AMANPOUR: Mr. Prime Minister, thank you for joining us this morning. Yesterday, the President of the United States said, "we are at war. War has been declared on us." Are you prepared to say that war has been declared and that there is a state of war?

TONY BLAIR, PRIME MINISTER OF BRITAIN: Yes, whatever the technical or legal issues about a declaration of war, the fact is that we are at war with terrorism. What happened on Tuesday was an attack, not just upon the United States, but upon the civilized world. The thousands of people that lost their lives include the nationals of many, many countries, probably two, three hundred people from Britain will have died in that terrorist attack. That makes it, in fact, the worst terrorist attack on British citizens that there has been since the Second World War.

So this is a situation that concerns us all. Our own interests are intimately engaged, quite apart from the fact that in these times it's important that America realizes that her friends right around the world stand with her.

AMANPOUR: You and other leaders have talked about a global alliance to combat this global network of terror. And there are obviously many components, including a military component. What will the United Kingdom -- what will Britain do if the United States decides to go to war?

BLAIR: This is something, obviously, we are discussing with the American President, the American administration at the moment, what help we can give. And I'm very pleased at the way that America -- or the American administration has gone out of its way to consult its allies, to keep us fully informed so that we are part of the deliberations they're making. But we have to do two things, in my view.

First of all, there has to be a response to bring those terrorists who committed this attack to account, and we will play our full part in that.

And secondly, there has, then, to be an agenda that we can strike at an international level that involves the whole of the international community in dismantling the machinery of international terrorism. How it's financed, and how these people move about the world. The countries that then harbor them and give them help.

At every single level, we have to pursue and dismantle this machinery of terror. And that is important, not just for the purpose of bringing those people to account, but also in order to make sure that this does not happen again.

AMANPOUR: The -- Britain has stood with the United States in most of its military campaigns of the last 10 years, from the Gulf War on. Is it safe to say that if there is a military response, Britain will take part militarily?

BLAIR: Well, we've made it very clear that we stand side by side with the United States. And it's not a question of the United States simply saying "this is what we're going to do now, come and join us." The U.S. is in close consultation with us and with other allies, and I think there will be a very broad support for a response that allows us to pursue and bring to account those responsible for this act. And do it as an act of justice.

AMANPOUR: Do you think that the evidence is out yet? Have you been presented with what you need? You've talked about "we need to know who did it, we need to see the evidence."

BLAIR: As President Bush said yesterday, it's fairly clear where the evidence is tending. But I think it is important that we consider the evidence in a very careful way, that it's factually based, that we are hardheaded about it. But once we have come to a conclusion, then it is important that we hold those people who are responsible for this, as I say, to account.

And I think you'll find, incidentally, that that is the view right round the world. I've spoken to Arab leaders in the past few days that have expressed their outrage of what has happened. Their determination that this should be seen as something that the world of Islam is standing against, not merely countries like America and the United Kingdom.

And I think you will find that there is enormous support for the idea that we must put together a broad-based coalition that hound these people down, and that bring them to account. And do it, as I say, for reasons of justice.

And we owe it to those people that lost their lives, to their families who are grieving, and to our own defense of democracy and liberty and freedom.

AMANPOUR: Which brings me to the question -- you know -- a lot of people are looking now at which country can be counted on, so called, to stand with the United States, and which countries stand against. In the words of the U.S. President, "you're either with us or you're not." We have heard -- you know -- in the past, we've seen how in some attempts to build coalitions, there are some countries who don't particularly -- you know -- go rushing into this kind of thing. France sometimes has its own reservations, Germany has its own reservations. Do you think there will be a cohesive Gulf War-style alliance?

BLAIR: I do think that the whole of the civilized world will stand together, yes. I spoke to President Chirac myself on the phone yesterday. And I can assure you, I think that the whole of Europe will stand with America on this. Because people know that what happened was not just aimed at America. It was aimed at all of us. These people believe they can achieve by mass terrorism what they cannot achieve by peaceful, democratic means.

And therefore, even though it is in our nature to be reasonable, to proceed very cautiously and carefully, we haven't sought this conflict. When the conflict comes, then, as we've learned before from our history, we have to be prepared to face up to it.

And I think that, for a long period of time, the world has turned a blind eye, being somewhat indifferent to the menace of international terrorism. And I think we're all, to an extent, culpable in that. But what we've got to do now is to realize that it exists, look at its full power and potency, realize that these people, incidentally, if they could do worse, would do worse.

The number of people they kill is not limited by anything other than purely technical capability. There's no morality so far as they're concerned. And once we understand that, then I think it is important that we not merely, as I say, pursue those people who have been directly responsible and hold them to account, but then look at the way that terrorism operates, how it's financed, where it is, and how we pursue it and dismantle it.

AMANPOUR: Well, today there are reports, for instance, that even in England, there's a bank -- at least one bank, maybe more, that is being used to channel funds for propaganda for this group. There has been some radical voices in the Islamic community here calling for martyrdom and -- you know -- standing against the United States in this matter. What does a democracy such as yours, and other democracies -- what can you do? Do you have to sort of encroach on, perhaps, some of the things that make a democratic world stand apart? Some of the civil liberties, some of the protections on individual freedom of speech, freedom to act, freedom to hide under the banner of religious organizations? And will you crack down here?

BLAIR: We will certainly look, as I think most countries will, at our own domestic laws and see how, in a sense, they measure up to the scale of the problem we now face. And I think we can proceed in a sensible way, which is to say, people are perfectly entitled to express their views. And if people want to be anti-British or anti-American, you know, we're democrats. We believe that people have the right to express their views.

But if they are engaged in organizing terror or acts of terrorism, then we have got to act against that. And you're right, I think a lot of people will look at, for example, how terrorism is financed, how some of these people do shelter in our country. And not just our country, but other countries -- democratic countries -- around the world.

And if this evil of mass terrorism is as we say it is, then we have got to exercise the power and the vigilance to ensure that it's restrained and defeated. Now, I don't believe that that is to act in contradiction of our civil liberties. I believe it is, in part, pursuing the basic civil liberty that people have to go about their business free from terror.

AMANPOUR: Do you think there might be -- I don't know -- a system of identity cards, or something similar to that?

BLAIR: I think there are a whole series of things that people will look at in the wake of this. And I don't -- I think -- this is the time, as it were, to set an objective and then to consider very carefully how we meet that objective.

AMANPOUR: Let's go back and talk about the alliance. How do you keep an alliance cohesive over what you've all described as a sustained, long, difficult campaign? It's going to take a long time, apparently, to do what you have described.

BLAIR: Well, of course, it's like, in a sense, that when we're merely offering words of support, that is, in a way, as I've been saying to people in the last few days, that's the easy part in one sense. I mean, the hard part starts when we actually take the action.

But I think that support will be there. Not just because of people's sense of horror and outrage at what has happened, but also because of their realization that unless we take action, then we are all at risk. And so it is right for reasons of justice, but it's also right for reasons of self-protection.

Now, I'm not saying there won't be difficulties along the way, there always are in these situations. But certainly, so far as Britain is concerned, and I really do believe the vast bulk of the civilized world will stand with America.

AMANPOUR: What -- have you spoke to your Russian counterpart? Have you spoken to President Putin?

BLAIR: Yes, I have spoken to President Putin.

AMANPOUR: And what are they prepared to do?

BLAIR: I think, obviously, you have to talk to President Putin about the specific things that the Russians will do to help in this situation. But I don't think you should be in any doubt that President Putin and the Russian people were utterly horrified by this. And of course, they, themselves have suffered terrorist outrages in Russia, too.

AMANPOUR: When we talk about the military component of any response, do you think -- NATO is obviously unprecedentedly given its full support to come to mutual defense of one of its members. Do you envision a classic NATO-style response? Or how would you envision a military response?

BLAIR: I think there's a -- there's a process that we need to get clear here. First of all we identify those responsible. Then we work out the correct military response. And then we see the right way of putting that together. Now, I think we're too premature at this stage to start speculating on the exact nature of either the response or the way that we will pursue it.

But obviously, as I say, there will be these two components to the action that we take. The more immediate action, if you like, to bring to account those responsible, and then, over time, the systematic war upon the whole machinery of terrorism.

AMANPOUR: Are you -- have you been -- do you think that the United States would take unilateral action? Or do you expect that there will be -- you know -- further consultations and sort of gathering of the coalition?

BLAIR: I think that the way that President Bush has handled this is absolutely right. And he has been very calm and measured in the way that he has approached it. He has been in close consultation with allies. Obviously, America has got to defend itself against such an attack. And, you know, we will be there in support of America in doing that. And that is important.

But it has been done in a way that, I think, reflects very great credit in the administration, because their determination is absolute, but their way of doing it, quite rightly, is to say, look, this is where we stand. This is why we stand in this position, and join us in it. And I think that that will, of itself, win a great deal of support. And as I say, not just amongst Western countries or countries that are traditional allies of the United States. I think they will get support for that position right across the world.

AMANPOUR: The President of the United States has talked about a fight between good and evil. And a lot is being made of a -- sort of -- a clash of civilizations, or a clash of fanatics against this civilized world. How do you see this clash, if there is one?

BLAIR: Well, I think those are two very separate things. The vast majority of Muslims are decent, law-abiding people, but absolutely appalled by this outrage, and will be fully supportive of us taking action against international terrorism. Indeed, many Muslims are victims of international terrorism.

So in sense should this be seen as, if you like, one part of the world against the Islamic world. It's not like that at all. And I think people understand that very, very clearly. But it is a war, if you like, between the civilized world and fanaticism. And whatever banner that fanaticism marches under, it is important that we recognize, these are people who will stop at nothing. And therefore, however difficult it is for us, and however much we will regret the fact that we have to take this action because of the terrible thing that has happened, nonetheless we have to do so.

And this is a time for, you know, for a cool head, for calm nerves and for an absolute and fixed determination to see this thing through. And we will see it through. It will be done.

AMANPOUR: On that note, thank you very much for joining us, Mister Prime Minister.


CLANCY: All right. That was Christiane Amanpour talking with Prime Minister Tony Blair in London there. Now, a new poll is indicating that three out of four Britons support military action against those responsible for the terror attacks in the United States.

With some perspective now on how the attacks are shaping British political sentiment, I'm joined by our European political editor, Robin Oakley, once again. Robin?

ROBIN OAKLEY, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Jim, what was interesting, I think there, about Christiane's interview with Tony Blair was that he was perfectly willing to use this language of an act of war. He qualified it slightly by saying it was -- "it is a war against terrorism." But clearly, Britain is willing to stand militarily with the United States, while we're seeing some slight possible cracks in the alliance otherwise with other European leaders saying that this is not a war.

We have had Louis Michel, the Foreign Minister of Belgium, currently holding the E.U. Presidency, saying this is not a war. And people were worried, too, when Lionel Jospin, the French Prime Minister, said this is not a war. But he, of course, was careful to say this is not a war against Islam.

And I think we have to be very careful in assessing the reactions across Europe now. Different people are using different language in a very careful way. Because I think many European leaders don't want a war against other states. And they don't want a backlash against Muslims worldwide. But they are prepared to provide considerable backing for the United States in building this coalition against terrorism.

And I think what we've seen from Tony Blair there in the interview is, they are all looking to a two-stage operation. First of all, to bring the terrorists to justice; secondly, to start dismantling the apparatus of terrorism worldwide. And that that stage, clearly European leaders, and certainly very strong sentiment in British public opinion, for that stage, penalizing countries, punishing countries which harbor terrorists as well as punishing the terrorists themselves. Jim.

CLANCY: Robin, as we look at it, and you point this out -- I mean -- war may be just a word, but it means many things to different people. That's one thing on the rhetorical end of it. But the Bush administration has isolated itself somewhat on a number of issues there in Europe. Is that coming home to hurt this administration? The sense there that the U.S. may ask you into a coalition but won't listen to your advice?

OAKLEY: I think, Jim, normal politics has been suspended in Europe and worldwide. This act of terrorism is an act that has changed the world. It is perfectly true that when President Bush came to Europe for the G8 Summit, came earlier for a European Union Summit, there was a feeling that his approach was somewhat isolationist, typified by action on the Kyoto protocol on the environment, not joining the others in taking the action they wanted to take against global warming.

But I think that is on an entirely different scale, and I think -- again, as we heard from Tony Blair this morning, people now across Europe -- governments, leaders across Europe -- perceive this attack as an attack not just on the United States. It is the kind of attack that could happen anywhere in the civilized world, they feel now. And that if the terrorists are not -- if there is not punishment for terrorists who have ratcheted up the scale of terrorism to this level, then the whole of the civilized world is at risk.

And when Tony Blair was addressing the British Parliament, the emergency session they had, he warned that the terrorists will not stop at driving planes into buildings, but that there is a real fear, should they get their hands on weapons of chemical and biological warfare, then they would be prepared to use those. So I think smaller scale differences with the United States about specific items of policy that we've seen in recent months are forgotten against the background of this -- the enormity of this terrorist attack. Jim.

CLANCY: All right. Some good perspective there. Robin Oakley, our thanks to you for that. Ralitsa.

VASSILEVA: Jim, some stock statements from President Bush to the American people this weekend. Mr. Bush spent much of the day with his National Security team at Camp David, the Presidential retreat. CNN's White House correspondent, Major Garrett joins us now from Washington. Major.

GARRETT: Good morning, Ralitsa. A very stern rhetoric from the U.S. President on Saturday saying, among other things, in a message to all U.S. service personnel, "get ready." He identified Osama bin Laden as the prime suspect, though also he said there are other suspects the United States is looking at. And the White House later in the day made it clear that it was not ruling out ground troops in any military assault against those who perpetrated the terrorist acts Tuesday in New York, Virginia and Pennsylvania.

And in his weekly radio address, the President made it clear to the United States that this is a war, a different kind of war, but nevertheless a war that he is confident the country can win.


BUSH: This weekend, I am engaged in extensive sessions with members of my National Security Council as we plan a comprehensive assault on terrorism. This will be a different kind of conflict against a different kind of enemy. This is a conflict without battlefields or beachheads, a conflict with opponents who believe they are invisible. Yet they are mistaken. They will be exposed, and they will discover what others in the past have learned. Those who make war against the United States have chosen their own destruction.


GARRETT: Ralitsa, another significant passage from the President's radio address, and I quote the President here, "I will not settle for a token act. Our response must be sweeping, sustained and effective. We have much to do and much to ask of the American people." President spending a good deal of his day on Saturday doing exactly that, only hours removed from the different obligations of a Commander in Chief, that is, to console the nation.

President spent much of the day on Friday doing just that, leading the nation in a prayer service, service of remembrance at the National Cathedral, and then traveling to New York City to see the devastation there firsthand and spending more than three hours with families of police officers and firefighters killed trying to respond to the catastrophe in Manhattan -- lower Manhattan.

White House aides say the President was absolutely overcome with the emotion expressed by those family members, and through it all spending nearly three hours with them. At first very emotional, but at the end steeled with the sense that he, as Commander in Chief, must do something to prove to them and others that those civilian victims have not died in vain. Ralitsa?

VASSILEVA: Major, thank you -- Jim.

CLANCY: Well, for the latest now from the scene of the World Trade Center attacks where the cleanup, the rescue and recovery efforts continue, let's go to Gary Tuchman, he's there. Gary?

TUCHMAN: Jim, there's no quieter time of the week in New York City than a Sunday just before dawn. But here in lower Manhattan it's anything but quiet. There is lots of traffic, lots of police activity and lots of noise because the World Trade Center rescue is still in full gear. As we speak, hundreds of emergency workers are still on the scene just behind me, about five blocks behind me, trying to find survivors.

The news has not been good over the last three days. No survivors have been found. Five survivors were found the day of this disaster and the day after, but they are still looking for the possibility of survivors: 4,972 people are missing.

They are also clearing wreckage. So far, 22,000 tons of rubble have been cleared, but that's only a minute percentage of the total rubble that's there, about four percent. There is still a lot of work to be done here.

With us right now are two of the thousands of volunteers who have been out at the scene since the beginning. This is Julie Forsberg (ph) next to me, this is Stephen Michaels (ph). Stephen (ph) is a volunteer emergency medical technician. You've been helping out also. Tell me -- Julie (ph), tell me what you've been doing there.

JULIE FORSBERG, VOLUNTEER: Wednesday night, I sort of hopped around helping carry boxes of food and trying to give rescue workers clean (UNINTELLIGIBLE) and dry T-shirts and coffee and digging a little bit, moving buckets of rubble a little bit. But mostly helping with food the first night. And the next couple of nights, just sort of coming down and pitching in with shoveling and moving buckets and -- like lines of people trying to help.

TUCHMAN: Now, Stephen, you're a student here in New York City, but you have medical training back in Michigan. Tell me what the scene is like there right now.


TUCHMAN: You're just finishing, by the way, for the day, right? How many hours have you been here?

MICHAELS: Yes. I don't know.

TUCHMAN: You lost track

MICHAELS: Yes, you kind of lose track when you're out there.

TUCHMAN: Yes, and what's the scene like right now?

MICHAELS: Right now, it's kind of changed since Tuesday, you know, -- Tuesday it was a lot scarier, now it's, you know, more machinery, you know, picking off the layers to, you know, get at the people that are possibly, you know, up to, you know, eight stories underground, you know, the -- and the rubble has really gone down deep.

TUCHMAN: I mean, your helping out with the triage unit on Tuesday, must have been very busy there, right?

MICHAELS: On Tuesday, it was very busy. Tuesday it was kind of mass chaos, you know, setting up the triage centers, you know, I was here, you know, immediately after the scene and -- scene. It was just a big cloud of smoke and trying to get the hundreds and thousands of people and, you know, from the nearby neighborhoods, not even getting to the main infrastructure yet, you know, it was more, you know, just immediate work on the people that, you know, nearby.

TUCHMAN: And how disappointing has it been that there's been no one to treat over the past couple of days?

MICHAELS: It's been -- it's been really scary, but we still haven't lost hope, you know, two nights ago when it was raining, you know, we still were in full hope that we were, you know, going to find somebody and, you know, the dogs had a couple of hits throughout the night and, you know, I mean, that keeps us going, you know, that keeps us hoping that there's somebody there, you know, it's just -- it's just very personal for each and every one of us out here, I'm sure, you know, it's -- because we don't take it lightly, you know.

TUCHMAN: Stephen and Julie, thank you very much. Good luck to you in the future. It's great that you've been helping out so much. That's really scary about this, is that when this is all over, this death toll could rise to a number as high as 5,100. Jim, back to you.

CLANCY: Gary Tuchman, thank you much for introducing to -- us to a couple of the people that are doing the important work, perhaps on behalf of all of us.

Well, New York firefighters are continuing their work at the rescue site. At the same time they are mourning the loss of their own. More than 300 firefighters now dead or missing. Among those that were buried on Saturday, three top officials, including Fire Chief Peter Ganci.

CLANCY: Sad scenes indeed.

We want to bring you up now -- up to date on what's been going on, all of the recent developments. The rescuers in New York, of course, continuing to search the rubble of the World Trade Center there, hoping against hope that they will find further survivors. More than 4,900 people now officially listed as missing there in New York.

A Justice Department official, meantime, telling CNN a second man is in custody on a material witness warrant. He's in FBI custody in New York City. And New Jersey officials are questioning two other men in connection with the attacks.

Sources say two of the hijackers were under surveillance by U.S. law enforcement before the attack. One of the two was reportedly connected to the October, 2000 attack on the USS Cole in Yemen.

Meantime in New York, investigators found a passport that apparently belonged to one of the hijackers. It was found blocks away from the crash site itself, the FBI and the police have now widened the search area after that discovery.

VASSILEVA: Should the United States elect to launch an offensive against Afghanistan, it faces a daunting task. The terrain is mountainous, and the people are renowned for their resilience to ground assaults. The country is far removed from most U.S. allies. Former diplomats say the U.S. must weigh its options very carefully.


UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I think that would be, under most circumstances, the last thing we would want to do. Putting land forces into someplace like Afghanistan, in the first place we saw how successful the Soviet Union was. If you get all of the Afghanis opposed to you, it can be a very unpleasant circumstance. I would think that with our technology, if we know where he is -- and that's the first question -- I should think we could get at him, and at the Taliban, without having to put troops on the ground.



UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We have air power which is very capable. It's going to be mixed with a variety of other kinds of actions. And I cross the spectrum of economic sanctions, embargoes, forming alliances that will act in concert against these countries, and -- as well as military action. So it's going to be long range, it's going to be very, very complicated. I think you'll find that the military activities that occur are going to be selective. There'll be very aggressive, and probably in some cases massive.

But I think you're going to find that it's going to be a longer-term, very carefully orchestrated effort on a magnitude that we have not seen before.


VASSILEVA: Whatever form of military action the U.S. decides to take, the support of neighboring Pakistan will be crucial. Tom Mintier now joins us live from Islamabad for more on how Pakistan is responding to U.S. requests for cooperation -- Tom.

TOM MINTIER, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Ralitsa, that support may be crucial even before military action is needed. Sources close to President Musharraf tell CNN that Pakistan has asked the Taliban to hand over Osama bin Laden within the next three days, or face a huge military operation. Also, they say that air cover would be used from Pakistan, but no ground troops assigned here.

Now, there was a phone conversation last night between the Pakistani President and U.S. President George W. Bush. In that, Pakistan asked for U.S. support in economic areas for Pakistan, and possible help with the $30 billion debt that Pakistan currently has. Now, a senior representative will go from Pakistan into Afghanistan to meet with Mullah Omar tomorrow, to discuss this latest branch, or way out, by handing Osama bin Laden over and preventing any possible military action against Pakistan.

But the full details yet have not been revealed, but it's the first we've heard of this phone conversation. Also, Pakistan would like the United States to help with Kashmir and the issue there. They would like the U.S. to play a more mediating role in exchange for their cooperation. Pakistan supposedly, according to our sources, also asked the United States that India and Israel not be involved in the operation. One thing is clear out of these meetings that the President is having, supposedly not to allow any of the land in Pakistan to be used.

Now, if it's a helicopter-borne assault, it may prevent some -- present some difficulty, because these need a base of operations close by. Where that might be if it couldn't be on Pakistani soil, would really make it difficult.

Now, according to our sources close to the President, Osama bin Laden holds the key to war or no war in this region. So this word going into the Taliban in the next 24 hours to hand over Osama bin Laden or face the huge military operation may be the way out without a military strike.

I have just spoken, in the last couple of hours, to one of the members of the opposition. Imran Khan was a very famous, world-famous cricketer, but now he's a politician. And he says the Pakistani President is faced with some difficult decisions.


IMRAN KHAN, POLITICIAN: The majority of Pakistanis would have liked to have stayed out of this. It's a no-win situation for them because once they get involved, which they have, and if the air bases are used, which there's every possibility now, that means war against Taliban. And war against Taliban means that we have almost a 1,400-mile border with Afghanistan. We have one million refugees -- foreign refugees in Pakistan. We have religious groups that are supporting -- have supported the Taliban. And we have an element in Pakistan which will immediately turn against the United States.


MINTIER: That is a concern for many here in Pakistan, what the support for the United States may mean on the ground across this country. There will be meetings at the President's office until late tonight, as he takes members of the media, public opinion makers, politicians and religious leaders into his confidence, to try to spell out to them the reasons for the cooperation with the United States and the effort to bring Osama bin Laden out into justice.

So if there is a military operation, it will come after possibly a last diplomatic olive branch being sent to the Taliban to turn over Osama bin Laden in the next three days, or face some type of huge military operation against the Taliban, against Afghanistan, and against Osama bin Laden -- Ralitsa.

VASSILEVA: So Tom, how likely is Pakistan's leadership to gain support after this statement that they have made, support from religious leaders who are very influential, support from those in the military who oppose supporting the United States?

MINTIER: Well, it depends on what is seen as Pakistan getting in return for its level of cooperation with the United States in any possible military action. If the lifting of economic sanctions is part of the package, if debt relief, if help with economic areas, it is something that the government here in Pakistan can sell to the people as a reason for offering assistance to improve the situation for the everyday Pakistani.

It is going to be a difficult sell, because there are people in this country who definitely not only support the Taliban, but some support Osama bin Laden and what he does. So the difficulty is going to be into presenting his point and bringing the public into his confidence, which we expect him to do publicly, possibly in the next 24 to 48 hours. Right now, the meetings are a consensus gathering operation at the President's office with leaders of opinion.

VASSILEVA: Tom, what is the likelihood that Afghanistan will hand over Osama bin Laden?

MINTIER: Well, they've made it quite -- the Taliban has made it quite clear that that is not an option they want to consider or even would consider. So this meeting with the high Pakistani official tomorrow in Kandahar with Mullah Omar is an important one. Because this may be one of the last messages that Pakistan is able to make with the Taliban. The lines of communications have been open for the last few days, they apparently will remain open for the next three days with Pakistan sending the ultimatum to the Taliban to turn over Osama bin Laden within three days, or face a massive military strike.

VASSILEVA: Tom Mintier, thank you very much. Jim?

CLANCY: Well, Ralitsa, we're learning now that Mullah Omar, the Afghan leader, is at this hour calling some of the Mullahs, some of the clerics to Kabul in order to devise, if you will, a plan of how they would resist any U.S. attack.

Clearly, they have not said that they would release or they would turn over Osama bin Laden to the U.S. or anyone else, for that matter. And as David Ensor tells us, for the U.S. there's a consideration that Osama bin Laden, his apparatus, simply isn't that visible a target.


DAVID ENSOR, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): An angry and determined President is promising action.

BUSH: We will find those who did it, we will smoke them out of their holes.

ENSOR: But if Osama bin Laden is the culprit, revenge against him or against his hosts, the Afghan Taliban government, will not be easy. Cruise missiles fired in 1998 missed bin Laden, and they only have strengthened his image. Even if bin Laden is killed, many analysts say that would not stop terrorism by his followers.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I would want -- I would want to destroy as much of bin Laden as possible. I'm simply saying that's like picking a wart off your neck or something. That doesn't do much. That's a very superficial blow against this kind of capability.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: To get rid of one man, or to launch any kind of revenge attack, isn't going to help. Revenge alone is not going to answer. There has to be a complete eradication and elimination of all the training camps.

ENSOR: But bombing alone would not likely achieve that. And there are indications those terrorist training camps in Afghanistan are today largely empty.

Much of bin Laden's support is across the border in Pakistan, in the area around Pushauer (ph). One reason the promise by Pakistani President Musharraf to help the U.S. against the terrorists could be crucial.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: ... and especially want to thank the President and the people of Pakistan for the support that they have offered, and their willingness to assist us in whatever might be required in that part of the world as we determine who these perpetrators are.

ENSOR: But can Musharraf convince his military and intelligence services to stop their long and active support for the Taliban?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Pakistan is supplying fuel, funding, infrastructure, training, arms and administrative help to the Taliban. Without the Pakistani lifeline, the Taliban would not survive.

ENSOR: Senior administration officials warn, none of this is going to be easy or quick. And that the United States cannot do it alone. It could, in fact, take years, analysts say, of political, economic, and military effort before Americans can overcome their newfound fear of mass terrorism on U.S. soil.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We're talking about a war. And it's a campaign. And in the campaign, there are going to be a lot of battles. We're going to win some of these battles, we're going to lose some of these battles. There are going to be more civilian casualties on both sides. More Americans will die.

ENSOR: Before it is over, many analysts say it could even require U.S. ground troops in the region. For now, though, the main focus of the Bush team is diplomatic, building a strong international coalition. Much as the President's father did before the Gulf War.

David Ensor, CNN, Washington.


CLANCY: Well, the Pentagon has named the mission to provide increased domestic defense. Mark Potter joins us now from the Pentagon with more on that. Mark.

POTTER: Well, Jim, that mission is called Operation Noble Eagle, and we'll have more on that in a moment. But first, according to this morning's "Washington Post," Pentagon officials were caught by surprise by the hijacked passenger jet that slammed into the Pentagon Tuesday morning. According to the newspaper, the Federal Aviation Administration told the nation's military air defense command that a hijacked jet was heading toward Washington.

Now, fighter jets were scrambled from Langley, Virginia, more than 100 miles away. But here at the Pentagon, according to "The Post," Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld and his top aides were unaware of the impending danger, of course, until the plane hit. And there are reports that those in charge of guarding the building also were not warned and did not order an evacuation. An Air Force spokesman this morning would not comment on that report.

Now, at the Pentagon crash site, as they have for several days now, workers are still out there 24 hours a day, going through the debris, shoring up the building, looking for more bodies, working under huge floodlights in the nighttime hours. The Arlington County Fire Chief says that the recovery effort could take another 10 days. Building repairs, according to Pentagon officials, could take years.

At last report, 88 remains had been recovered. The death toll is -- 85 remains. The death toll is believed to be 188, including the 64 people who died aboard the plane. Yesterday, families of the victims were allowed to visit the crash site.

Now, as for Operation Noble Eagle, that's the Pentagon's new name for its mission to protect the U.S. homeland and to help with the disaster relief effort. It's planning to call up 35,000 reservists, and they will be getting -- most of them will be getting notice in the next few days. Hundreds of Coast Guard reservists have already been notified. Among the missions that are covered by Noble Eagle, the fighter air patrols over Washington, D.C. and New York; the warship patrols along the East and West Coasts; increased port security; and more assistance for disaster workers.

Jim, back to you.

CLANCY: All right. Mark Potter reporting there live, from the Pentagon. Let's now turn to Ralitsa for some more information, some developing news.

VASSILEVA: Jim, thank you. In international news, we're receiving reports of new developments in the -- concerning the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. Jerrold Kessel joins us now from Jerusalem with that -- Jerrold.

JERROLD KESSEL, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Ralitsa, a special session, the solidarity session in the Israeli Knesset at the Israeli Parliament a short while ago. And during that solidarity meeting with the United States, Prime Minister Ariel Sharon issued a call to Palestinian Authority President Yasser Arafat to implement immediate cease-fire in the nearly year of fighting and confrontation between Israel and the Palestinians.

Should Mr. Arafat declare such a cease-fire, the Israeli Prime Minister said, he would order -- he pledged that he would order an immediate halt to Israeli-initiated actions against the Palestinians, including the kind of incursions that we saw last night into the main Palestinian town of Ramallah on the West Bank.

And should there be 48 hours of quiet, Mr. Sharon went on to say, absolute quiet, he said, then he would instruct his Foreign Minister, Shimon Peres, to meet with the Palestinian Authority President, Yasser Arafat, to work out ways to institutionalize that cease-fire. Seven days of quiet, and onto the implementation of the initial rapport. That the Israeli Prime Minister's challenge, attempting to pressure even further the Palestinian leader.

First reaction from the Palestinian spokesman, one of the leading peace negotiators, Cy Baracut (ph), saying that Mr. Sharon really should be -- should be a meeting right away. And this was an attempt to bypass the need to have a cease-fire implemented right away. Mr. Baracut, Cy Baracut, the Palestinian negotiator, said -- he said the Israeli Prime Minister was simply using the tragedy in Washington and New York as a way of deepening the Israeli attacks on the Palestinians, and the need was to get a cease-fire implemented right away, through a meeting right away. And he branded Mr. Sharon with trying to stop such a meeting happening, which was to have been held originally later tonight between Shimon Peres and Yasser Arafat.

And also, as part of Mr. Sharon's speech today in the Knesset, Ralitsa, it was a double-barreled pressure on Yasser Arafat. Because at the same time that he was saying there needed to be a truce, and that he was prepared to allow Mr. Peres to meet with Mr. Arafat to try to consolidate their truce, Mr. Sharon branded the Palestinian leader as a man who had worked with a constellation of terror. And he said it was very dangerous if he would, together with Syria, become part of the evolving U.S. constellation to work against international terror. So a double-handed attack by Mr. Sharon -- pressure, really, on the Palestinian Authority President.

But certainly, he is saying that if there will be a call for a truce by the Palestinian leader, he would respond in kind and look for 48 hours of quiet before those truce talks could take place -- Ralitsa.

VASSILEVA: Jerrold, thank you. Now back to Jim.

CLANCY: All right, Ralitsa, thanks for that. Those are developments, of course, that could have a major impact on President Bush's plan to form a broad coalition including Arab, Islamic countries to fight terrorism around the world.

Well, from the issues around the world back to the scene of the rescue, recovery efforts that are underway now. New York continues to focus on those operations. Sadly, at the site of Tuesday's attack there have not been any more people found alive for days now. Almost 5,000 people are still missing, deep below all of this rubble. It is hoped that there might be someone, perhaps many people, still alive that are trapped there. The rescue workers are doggedly continuing their search. They are refusing to give up any hope.

The Director of the Federal Emergency Management Agency says there is another factor that's really guiding these workers as well.


JOE ALLBAUGH, FEMA DIRECTOR: It's a crime scene, remember. There must be respect and dignity also paid and cared for, for those individuals who are still buried in the rubble. There's 600,000 tons of debris in New York City.


CLANCY: For family and friends looking for loved ones, a magnet is the Manhattan Armory, where details of the missing are being registered. Michael Okwu joins us now from there with the latest. Michael?

OKWU: Jim, you know, it's occurred to me that at times like this, we talk so much about numbers. We in the media have to do that, of course. But I wonder whether we do that partially because it's a reminder of how many individual stories are actually worth telling. Forty-nine hundred -- more than 4,900 people buried under the twisted steel and rubble of the Twin Towers. And tens of thousands of relatives who were connected to them, hanging onto the slimmest hope and trying in some way to find some measure of resolution.

And they find that resolution, or they try to find that resolution, here at the Armory on Lexington Avenue and Twenty-sixth street, some distance away from ground zero but the emotional ground zero. And basically, when they get here, they fill out a seven-page form where they are to give details about their loved ones, including recognizable scars or -- everything from their hair color to their eye color to the kind of nail polish that they liked to wear. And then ultimately what happens is, their loved ones are put on a list of those who have been recovered and are at the hospitals, or those who are officially missing.

Since Thursday, 3,100 people have filed through these doors. Yesterday, the New York City Health Department announced that a medical lab company, one of the largest medical lab companies in the United States, called LabCorp, is offering free DNA collection, which could ultimately help rescue workers identify the bodies. They are asked, essentially, the relatives are, to provide toothbrushes or hairbrushes or samples of saliva from the closest blood relatives. Any item that might have been used exclusively by the missing.

Earlier I spoke to a young woman whose stepsister is missing.


UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Hope is still there but it's dwindling fast. I keep hearing reports of bodies found, of, you know, unidentified bodies. And every time I hear that, I say oh, my God, could she be one of those people? And my only thought is right now, that I just hope that they find her, herself, to give us that closure if it gets to that point. I just hope that we can get that closure as a family and move on from there and mourn her together.


OKWU: You know, nothing is -- there's not much happening right now. There's just a little bit of media here. It is dark in Midtown Manhattan. But throughout the sidewalks here, the walls are awash in posters and pictures of those who are missing. And there are candles that have been laid out by some of the local residents here. In the coming days you will probably hear the word closure repeated time and time again. But for some of those people connected to those lives underneath the Twin Towers at this point, there -- they will never return to normalcy. Jim.

CLANCY: All right, Michael Okwu, there at the scene of the disaster. Ralitsa?

VASSILEVA: Jim, in Lower Manhattan hundreds of residents lined up for a chance to return tot heir homes. But the visits were brief. Families had time only to grab a few essentials. National Guardsmen escorted them into the blocked-off area and quickly brought them back out. Many of those living in the vicinity of the New York attacks are carrying memories that will haunt them for a lifetime. Brian Palmer has a story of a resident who caught part of the nightmare on film.


KEVIN SEGALLA, FILM PRODUCER: This morning I'm standing by the door there, and I hear the plane. I look up and I just see this huge explosion.

BRIAN PALMER, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Film producer Kevin Segalla saw the obliteration of a landmark from his terrace with his one-year-old son, Griffin. Segalla and his wife, Michelle (ph), returned to their apartment for the first time.

SEGALLA: My life, the moment that plane went into the building, really pretty much stopped. I think everybody's lives have stopped. I don't live here anymore. I haven't been to work again.

PALMER: This was the view from his terrace that day. This is the view now. The area around ground zero covers about five square miles, and was home to roughly 50,000 people. When the towers collapsed, the familiar rhythm of life stopped in this corner of Manhattan. The West Side Highway, one of the main roads downtown, now the primary route for the massive recovery operation as well as a staging area for the effort. Complete with a mobile animal hospital.

On the once bustling street corners of fashionable Tribeca, military checkpoints. Twenty miles of high voltage cable, all installed since Tuesday, snake through the streets of lower Manhattan. Shuttered stores and a few reminders of the devastation just seven blocks away. Few shoppers, many curious passers-by and shell-shocked residents, many moving in with family and friends north of the area.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Everyone is so focused on the -- on the rescue, that all of us in the neighborhood who are displaced, you know, are really secondary -- and that's how it should be, except we don't know what to do. So we're hoping to try to organize amongst ourselves.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Every bit of activity out there is geared towards this disaster. And, you know, you walk out there and you can't get it out of your head if you're seeing it every second.

PALMER: Seeing it every second, living like this for months. Normal life, as it was before, likely years away.

Brian Palmer, CNN, New York.


CLANCY: Ralitsa, there are so many stories, grim stories, around there. And it's in times such as these that sometimes small victories provide relief from what has been monumental chaos.

VASSILEVA: And Bruce Burkhardt relates one. The saga of Rose and Harry.


BRUCE BURKHARDT, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Another day in the Red Cross shelter in Grammercy Park for Rose Franklin. Another day wondering what happened to her husband Harry.


BURKHARDT: On Tuesday morning, election day in New York, Rose and Harry were working as volunteers at the polling station on Chambers Street, just a few blocks away from the World Trade Center.

FRANKLIN: I go out, and I see all that smoke.

BURKHARDT: While Harry stayed inside, Rose wandered outside to check out the big boom. She wandered too far. By the time she tried to return, chaos had taken over; she was swept up in the stampede.

FRANKLIN: They kept pushing everybody up north, up north, up north.

BURKHARDT: Now, confused, wondering where her husband was, the 81-year-old Rose stumbled along for two and a half miles before winding up at a shelter. It was there that she met a volunteer named Sergio (ph). Or, as Rose calls him, her angel.

SERGIO: At the beginning, she was one more person there. Slowly you get together and you talk. Which is really the only thing you can do .

BURKHARDT: At first, Rose said she had no family. But after warming up to Sergio, said she had a son in Boston. Though she didn't know his phone number or where he worked, Sergio tracked him down. It paid off. The son reported he had received two messages from his father. He said he was alive and well, but the message didn't say where he was.

SERGIO: ... just not sure how to talk to an answering machine. And he's probably pretty confused .

FRANKLIN: He's always been on these heart pills, because he had a triple bypass. So I've never known him to be without those pills.

BURKHARDT: Sergio tried everything. Searching shelters. Hospitals.

SERGIO: Then I went to the Armory, hoping that he would be there looking for her. He wasn't.

BURKHARDT: So that was to be our story. A couple in their golden anniversary year, separated by tragedy. The end. Well, not quite.

SERGIO: We got him!


SERGIO: He left a message on my phone!

BURKHARDT: The husband did?


BURKHARDT: Sergio, who just a few minutes before this had left the shelter, came running back to tell Rose the great news. Harry had left a message.


BURKHARDT: Harry, it turns out, had been hunkered down in the couple's apartment in an evacuated zone near the Trade Center. Without electricity, without water, Harry didn't know whether Rose was alive or dead. No one thought to look for him there.

ROSE: Harry! Where've you been, Harry?

HARRY FRANKLIN: Where have I been? Where has she been?

BURKHARDT: Sergio and Red Cross officials then produced their version of "When Harry Met Rosie."

HARRY FRANKLIN: I didn't really lose her.

BURKHARDT: It was Sergio's notice in the Armory that did it when it happened to show up in a local TV news report. A neighbor saw it and told Harry.

ROSE: (UNINTELLIGIBLE) but I would never have gone home. (UNINTELLIGIBLE), Sergio? Forget home!

BURKHARDT: For Sergio, confirmation of his notion of what volunteering is all about.

SERGIO: We have to concentrate on the small things. Go to a place, and when you find somebody sitting down, sit down by their side like I did and talk to them. And you might be surprised at the information that you can get. And just one person. Stick with that person. And with that information, you can -- you can make a miracle happen.

ROSE FRANKLIN: Where's Sergio? Sergio!

HARRY FRANKLIN: Sergio is with me!

BURKHARDT: Bruce Burkhardt, CNN, New York.


VASSILEVA: CNN's coverage of America's New War continues.

CLANCY: We're going to close out this hour with around-the-clock efforts of the workers that are there at the scene of the World Trade Center attack, and the supporters that are there cheering them on.

VASSILEVA: The tireless search for survivors enters day five in New York City. Families and rescue workers refuse to give up hope that more people will be rescued from the fallen Twin Towers. However, for the past three days, the rubble has yielded only bodies.

CLANCY: Another city. Another recovery effort, surveying the damage at the Pentagon. One hundred eighty-seven people lost their lives here.

VASSILEVA: While New York City buries three of its top firefighters, more than 300 others are still missing.

CLANCY: Hello and welcome. I'm Jim Clancy.

VASSILEVA: And I'm Ralitsa Vassileva at the CNN center. You're watching CNN's continuing coverage of America's New War.

CLANCY: Well, let's begin in New York City, where smoke continues to billow out from the ruins of what was once one of the world's most recognizable landmarks. No one has been pulled alive from the site of the collapse of the World Trade Center since Wednesday. But contained - continued rescue operations are giving hopes to thousands of families and friends waiting to hear from their missing loved ones. Officials say they will re-evaluate each day, and decide when the rescue becomes a recovery effort.

Investigators also report finding what they say is a passport that apparently belonged to one of the hijackers. It was found several blocks from the crash site itself.

One hundred eighty-seven people are now presumed dead from the Pentagon crash. The investigation into Tuesday's attacks, said to be the largest in U.S. history. Some 4,000 Federal Bureau of Investigation agents, and more than 3,000 support personnel, taking part in the ongoing investigations.

VASSILEVA: CNN has learned that Pakistan is sending a delegation to Afghanistan to demand that the ruling Taliban hand over Osama bin Laden. The United States says it considers bin Laden to be the prime suspect behind Tuesday's terror attacks. We're now joined by Tom Mintier in the Pakistani capital, Islamabad -- Tom.

MINTIER: Ralitsa, also an update. Osama bin Laden reportedly denying he had any involvement in the acts in the United States. The Afghan Islamic press, on a piece of letterhead, received in Peshawar out of Afghanistan a statement from a close aide of Osama bin Laden, Abdul-Samad, quoting bin Laden that he had nothing to do with what happened in the United States. As you said at the beginning, the Pakistan government is asking the Taliban to hand over Osama bin Laden in the next three days or face a huge military operation.

A representative from the Pakistani government will go into Afghanistan and meet with Mullah Omar, the head of the Taliban organization, probably tomorrow.

Now, we also have some details from our sources here in Pakistan about the phone conversation last night between President George W. Bush and the Pakistani President. Part of that phone conversation was possibly part of a deal to bring Pakistan involvement on the side of the United States. The demands by Pakistan for their assistance that the U.S. help in economic ways for Pakistan, possibly lifting the economic sanctions that currently exist, and help with the $30 billion debt problem that they currently have. So that is part of it.

Another part of what we're hearing here in Islamabad is that the United States - part of the agreement that no Pakistan ground troops involved in the operations. Their soil not used, only the air space would be - would be used. Pakistan is also asking the United States to intercede in the dispute with India over Kashmir. They've also asked the U.S. government, as our sources say - tell us here, that India and Israel not be involved in the operation against Afghanistan if one is launched. Not allow the land of Pakistan to be used.

According to our sources close to President Musharraf, Osama bin Laden holds the key to war or no war in this region.

Now, the meetings occurring here in Islamabad to shore up support behind the government's decision will probably be going on late into the night here on Sunday in Pakistan, in Islamabad, as President Musharraf attempts to build a coalition of support for his decision to assist the United States in its operation against Osama bin Laden. Meetings have been going on all day, started early this morning, meeting with editorial writers, media people, religious leaders, politicians, it's a long list of meetings that's going to go on in - late into the night here.

But the biggest news that we have out of the meetings is that an ultimatum is going to be sent by a Pakistani senior official into Afghanistan to the Taliban that they hand over Osama bin Laden within the next three days or face military action. Ralitsa?

VASSILEVA: Tom, back on the first piece of breaking news you brought to us. This statement by Osama bin Laden to the Islamic press, saying that he had nothing to do with the terrorist attacks on the United States. How much credence can we give this quote?

MINTIER: Well, you have to take it a bit on faith. Now, the names are all right. Abdul-Samad is a close aide of Osama bin Laden, and it did come on the Afghan Islamic press letterhead. This fax that was sent in denying responsibility was sent to Peshawar, and, you know, we have to - we have to go, basically, on that.

But again, this is an organization that supposedly, according to the Taliban, has had their fax machines taken away, their cell phones taken away, their satellite phones taken away, no Internet access, no fax machines. So how this note was faxed out of Afghanistan here to Pakistan remains a mystery.

But it was a note on the Afghan Islamic press letterhead, and it did quote a close aide to Osama bin Laden. But it is extremely difficult to verify the authenticity of this note, if it indeed was sent by the people it was reportedly sent from. Ralitsa?

VASSILEVA: Tom, thank you -- Jim.

CLANCY: Well, obviously, Ralitsa, with all those developments Tom's telling us about, we're looking at a situation where the pressure is being ratcheted up on Osama bin Laden on one hand, on the Taliban rulers of Afghanistan on the other. What's the effect of all that? Let's find out. Nic Robertson is in Kabul. He joins us now by videophone. Nic.

NIC ROBERTSON, CNN CORRESPONDENT: The streets in Kabul and in other cities around the country still seem fairly busy, the markets quite bustling. There are some stores that are closed down, but generally it appears as business as normal. The car mechanics are out on the street, the tin makers are still hard at work, the furniture and cabinetmakers working as well. It does seem like life as normal, however it's not.

Food prices are going up 10 to 15 percent. Many Afghans also are becoming concerned not only about the possibility of (INAUDIBLE) from America, but also the fact that the borders with Pakistan and Iran may be closing in the near future. Both countries looking at that option in the near future.

For many Afghans, however, they're really too poor to get out of the city. Their main aim most days is just to put food on their table. And that job is going to likely be made harder in the coming days and weeks. A new ruling from the Taliban leadership has ruled that all foreigners must leave Afghanistan. The last of the aid workers began leaving a little time ago. There was only a handful here, but their concerns are that in Afghanistan there are several millions of people that depend on handouts from international aid groups of various sorts: food, shelter, bread, things like this.

Beyond that also, there are several hundreds of thousands of internally displaced Afghans living in makeshift camps. They've been displaced from their - from their homes because of an ongoing four year drought. They are, aid groups say, solely dependent on international aid. And without the - without the charity group support to help them, help feed them, they're very concerned about what could happen to those people.

Also, journalists have been requested to leave. It's unclear yet if that will actually have to happen. But certainly, the Taliban foreign ministry saying that they cannot guarantee the safety of foreigners remaining here if there is a missile attack from America. And in the past, there have been instances, in 1998 when there was a missile attack on Afghanistan following the bombings of the U.S. Embassies in Kenya and Tanzania, there was - there were attacks on the United Nations compound. And indeed, one Italian worker here at that time was killed.

Certainly for now, their defensive isolation here is growing.

VASSILEVA: Nic, thank you very much. While Washington is still considering how to retaliate, as Kelly Wallace reports, President Bush is warning the American public that the road ahead will be long and difficult.


KELLY WALLACE, CNN WHITE HOUSE CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Spending the weekend at the secluded Presidential retreat in the Maryland mountains, President Bush huddles with his National Security team and prepares the American people for war.

BUSH: We're at war. There's been an act of war declared upon America by terrorists, and we will respond accordingly.

WALLACE: The President refuses to discuss military options, but for the first time he specifically named suspected terrorist Osama bin Laden as a, quote, "prime suspect" behind Tuesday's terrorism spree. Bin Laden is believed to be hiding out in Afghanistan with the ruling Taliban government providing him safe haven.

BUSH: This act will not stand. We will find those who did it. We will smoke them out of their holes. We will get them running, and we'll bring them to justice.

WALLACE: When asked if those words mean President Bush is considering using ground troops to attack terrorists, aides say nothing has been ruled out. But winning this so-called war, and finding the elusive bin Laden, won't be easy, says a former Clinton administration official.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We're not fighting a military, we're not fighting an organized power. But we're fighting a very (UNINTELLIGIBLE) and shadowy organization that has links in many different parts of the world .

WALLACE: Knowing Americans are hungry for swift retaliation, the President uses his radio address to say a sweeping response will come in time.

BUSH: You will be asked for your patience, for the conflict will not be short. You'll be asked for resolve, for the conflict will not be easy. You'll be asked for your strength, because the course to victory may be long.

WALLACE: And aides say President Bush has gained strength from his meeting Friday with more than 200 family members with loved ones still missing, believing his job is to turn their sorrow into something positive for future generations.

While the American people overwhelmingly support a military response, keeping that support up will be another big challenge for the President, especially if a prolonged military attack means some U.S. troops lose their lives.

Kelly Wallace, CNN, near Camp David, Maryland.


VASSILEVA: Officials say it could take 10 days or more to recover all the victims killed in the Pentagon crash. The U.S. Defense Department says the remains of 85 people have been removed from the wreckage so far. The total number presumed dead at the Pentagon crash site stands at 187.

They're learning more about two of the hijackers who rammed the American Airlines jet into the complex. Authorities say they previously had been under government watch as suspected associates of Osama bin Laden.

Much attention has been paid to the U.S. victims killed in the attack, but the death toll extends far beyond America. Germany reports at least 554 missing or dead. Among the other countries reporting scores of casualties are Switzerland, India, Canada, the United Kingdom and Russia.

CLANCY: The investigation revealing information about two of the five hijackers who crashed American Airlines flight 77 into the Pentagon. Eileen O'Connor has more on that investigation and a possible tie to another recent attack on U.S. interests.


EILEEN O'CONNOR, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): They booked the tickets on American Airlines flight 77 from Washington to Los Angeles on Travelocity, using a New Jersey address, a Mail Boxes Etc. And names U.S. officials confirm were known to them. Khalid Al-Midhar and Salem Alhamzi. Once on board, together with Alhamzi's brother and an old roommate and known pilot, they took over the flight, crashing it into the Pentagon. Within minutes, the facade of a symbol of American strength crumbled.

As the search and rescue efforts continue, sources say the FBI was informed that Khalid Al-Midhar and Salem Alhamzi were associated with Osama bin Laden and the bombing of the USS Cole. One source confirms they had concrete evidence Al-Midhar had met with a man who was later involved in the attack on the Cole.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: One was -- one was kind of short, and the other two was tall.

O'CONNOR: Al-Midhar was a frequent visitor of Alhamzi and his brother, Nawaq, in the San Diego apartment complex.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: They was always together, they left, it was together, they'd come back, they was together.

O'CONNOR: They hung out a lot at the pool, despite telling their neighbors they were studying at a nearby college.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You'll see three of them in the pool swimming, or you'll see the dude always looking out the window, another one outside the door on the phone.

O'CONNOR: At one point they left, telling one landlord they were in Arizona, living in different cities at different addresses. As it turns out, rooming with another hijacker aboard that plane, Hani Hanjour. Hani attended this flying school, CRM Cockpit Resource Management, but left without a certification.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: He's kind of a waste of time. He wouldn't show up for flights on time, didn't do his homework.

O'CONNOR: Not a promising student, but skilled enough to carry out the mission.

Eileen O'Connor, CNN, Washington.


CLANCY: The United States military moving quickly to shore up domestic defenses in the U.S. About 35,000 reservists are expected to be called up for active duty as part of Operation Noble Eagle. With the latest on that, let's go to Bob Franken, he's at the Pentagon. Bob?

BOB FRANKEN, CNN NATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: And Jim, those reservists are still being determined, precisely which ones. The units have not been fully informed yet, individuals are not being fully informed. This is a process that could take, we've been told, several days, even weeks. We do know that they're going to be used for what is called homeland defense. That is to say they're going to be used domestically, mainly support roles as the United States military gears up.

Of course, a gearing up that is centered in this building, damaged though it is. And we're now almost five days after the plane hit the side of the Pentagon, caving it in, and there's still the search for casualties that is going on there. You can see a live picture. The fire is long out, of course, but there is still the intense digging through the rubble and the shoring up of everything in sight as the search for the victims goes on. And there have been 85 remains that have been taken out thus far, and the Pentagon ultimately says that there will be about 188 casualties.

And that's a figure that moves around quite a bit, but by the time it is through there will be 188 or so who were killed in the crash of that American Airlines plane into the spot you're seeing right now, and the Pentagon spot that is going to take at least two years and well over $100 million to repair.

Now, as for the people who, in fact, were -- were, in fact, killed, their friends and relatives, those who are missing, were allowed to come by yesterday and set up a memorial of flowers and balloons, and spend some time with reflection. They were brought in by buses, obviously under heavy security. They have their moments of privacy, they've been at a nearby hotel for the most part getting counseling. They were accompanied by a heavy contingent of military supporters trying to make this as painless as possible. But of course, the pain here is as real as the pain anywhere in a building which has been badly damaged, but there seems to be a huge resolve now to recover in the building. Recover and make plans for retaliation -- Jim.

CLANCY: I just want to get a sense from you if I can, Bob, about those plans for retaliation, and is there a sense of personal indignation, perhaps, on the part of the military planners there at what's happened?

FRANKEN: There is, as a matter of fact, exactly that. A sense of indignation, the military people here, of course, are people who want to use their wares, they want to use them effectively. There are many questions that come up about exactly what type of response one might see. Will it be a massive response? Which, of course, the United States military would have the ability to do with its two and a half million forces.

About half of those reserves, by the way. Or, is it going to be something more surgical? Some sort of missile strike? Some sort of very, very precise airplane strike, or some sort of commando action by Special Forces or SEALs units or something like that? All of that still being drawn up, options being drawn up. They will be discussed at the highest levels, of course, and we're told that a plan will be carried out.

CLANCY: All right. Bob Franken reporting to us there live from the Pentagon. Ralitsa?

VASSILEVA: Jim, so many were lost last week, so many have yet to be found. New York said goodbye Saturday to three men with long ties to the Fire Department: Chief Peter Ganci, First Deputy Fire Commissioner Willy Feehan, and Chaplain Michael Judge. More than 300 New York firefighters were killed or remain missing in the Twin Towers collapse.


UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Today was a very -- a very solemn and difficult day in New York City, with the three funerals that we had for Bill Feehan, for Pete Ganci and for Father Judge. And unfortunately, it probably is an indication of what we're going to have to face in the future.


VASSILEVA: Sadness, good-byes too, in suburban Washington, where mourners remembered lawyer and conservative commentator, Barbara Olson. Olson was in the hijacked jet that slammed into the Pentagon.


UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Barbara's spirit survives in each of us, just at the spirit of our great country lives on. She lives in our memories, now dampened by tears and made hazy by grief. But she's here, here ever-present high heels clicking across the floors of this cathedral and through all the passageways of our sentiments.


CLANCY: It has been nearly five days since the attacks against targets in the U.S. Despite the nonstop efforts by thousands of rescue workers, only five people have been pulled alive from the rubble of what was once the World Trade Center. With each passing day, hopes of finding more survivors are fading. Let's go to Gary Tuchman in New York for an update there. Gary, explain to us if you can a little bit about what is underground there, beneath the World Trade Center, that might lend some hope to the people who are still waiting for word of their loved ones.

TUCHMAN: Well, Jim, there are six levels underground. Each level's about 20 feet tall, so you're talking about 120 feet of area underneath the rubble. And that's why people here have thought that there's a possibility they could find lots of survivors. But as you said, so far only five survivors.

And another day is now dawning, and if anyone is alive under there, time is running short. It has been five days since terrorists commandeered two planes and smashed them into the World Trade Center buildings behind me, which were the two tallest buildings in New York City.

A short time ago, a woman who lived two blocks away from the World Trade Center complex gave us some videotape she shot from her balcony just after this disaster happened. She said she was frozen while she was taking the video, but the close-up pictures of the World Trade Center Tower is very compelling.

You see people waving curtains and shirts and whatever they can to get the attention -- and you can only wonder at the absolute horrors these people were going through. It's very hard to look at these pictures.

Hundreds of emergency workers are on the scene as we speak. They have been there ever since this happened on Tuesday. They are feverishly looking for survivors, but none have been found over the last three days. Five the first two days, 4,972 people are still missing. Late last night, a sight that was poignant and pitiful at the same time, a fire truck was found in the rubble. That gives you an idea of how deep this rubble is, at some points it's 100 feet tall. It was actually pulled out by a tow truck. The fire truck was gray, it was crushed. It said on it "Ladder 18." There was no one inside of the fire truck, and one wonders what happened to the men and/or women who came on that truck to the World Trade Center that day on Tuesday.

This has truly been a week that has changed New York City and the United States forever. Jim, back to you.

CLANCY: Gary, let me talk a little bit more about the underground question there at the World Trade Center, why there might still be some hope. Now, some of those levels were where trains came into the World Train Center to bring commuters into the -- into the Lower Manhattan area. Have they been able to work inside any of those tunnels?

TUCHMAN: That's right, there's an elaborate setup underneath the World Trade Center. Not only was there the New York City Subway under there, there was also the PATH train. PATH stands for Port Authority Trans-Hudson, it's the train that takes you from New Jersey into New York City. So you had those two trains set up. You also had a shopping mall underground, so you had an elaborate area down there. And they have been able to get to some of the areas and haven't seen anything.

Other areas underground are flooded and they haven't been able to get to them. But they're still trying to dig through the top of the rubble to get down to those parts there, to see if anyone is alive. But that's one question that everyone's asking, why don't you just come through the subway stations and see what you can see. They have done that and they haven't seen anyone from that angle yet.

CLANCY: All right. Gary Tuchman there, reporting to us live from lower Manhattan -- Ralitsa.

RALITSA VASSILEVA: Jim, for thousands of families and friends searching for their missing loved ones, the Armory in the City has been the source of information as well as comfort. More than 3,000 people have been through the building's doors to register the missing. And let's go now to Michael Okwu, who is standing outside that building -- Michael.

OKWU: Ralitsa, New Yorkers are waking up to another morning to discover that, in fact, the nightmare is real yet again. And for us in the media, another day to talk to you about numbers, and to also talk to you about individual stories that are worth telling. Forty-nine hundred people, or more than 4,900 people buried under the twisted ash and the rubble of the Twin Towers. And tens of thousands of family members and -- who are connected to some of those people who are missing, hanging on to the slimmest hope and looking for some kind of -- some measure of resolution.

Many of them come here, many, many blocks north of ground zero, but the emotional ground zero, the Armory on Lexington and Twenty-sixth Street, where they come and they fill out forms, where they talk to -- they talk to some of the workers here, and they provide identifiable traits of some of their loved ones. Everything from the color of their eyes to recognizable scars, to everything to the sort of nail polish that they liked to use.

Since Thursday, some 3,100 people have filed through those doors. And yesterday, the New York City Health Department announced the fact that a medical lab company, called LabCorp, was providing free DNA collections, which will enable the rescue workers to use that information and actually identify some of the bodies that are found. They're asked to provide everything from toothbrushes to hairbrushes to samples of saliva from some of their closest blood members of the family, any items that might have been used exclusively by some of those people who are missing.

Earlier, I spoke to a young woman who is missing her stepsister.


UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Hope is still there but it's dwindling fast. I keep hearing reports of bodies found, of, you know, unidentified bodies. And every time I hear that, I say oh, my God, could she be one of those people? And my only thought is right now, that I just hope that they find her, herself, to give us that closure if it gets to that point. I just hope that we can get that closure as a family and move on from there and mourn her together.


OKWU: Ralitsa, this is the last day that this place will be used as a -- as a site for this sort of thing. It is moving across town to the West Side, but if the spirit of New Yorkers is -- continues to be the same as it has been all week, that area will be -- will be strewn in posters and pictures of many of the loved ones and those who are missing. You're going to hear the word closure for the next couple days, but for some of the people who have come to this site over the past couple days, their lives will not return to normalcy -- Ralitsa.

VASSILEVA: Certainly, Michael, I cannot imagine how difficult and how much strength it would take from people to come to this Armory and to bring a toothbrush, a hairbrush, to bring things that could possibly mean that their loved ones might need to be identified -- that they might not be alive.

OKWU: That is so true. In fact, I spoke to somebody, I asked her that very question. I said that must have been very difficult, to actually look at -- look at her items and pick them up, and have to bring them in. And she said yes, it was -- it was one of the most difficult things she had to do. And yet you get the sense, and in fact she gave me every indication that there's a collective strength that a lot of the family members are deriving from the collective spirit of the New Yorkers, and I dare say the rest of the country. They feel such great support.

But even though many of them are actually losing hope that they will actually find life underneath the rubble, they continue to come.

VASSILEVA: Michael, thank you very much. Jim?

CLANCY: Well, the many human dimensions of Tuesday's terrorist attacks becoming evident as the days go by, as Michael was explaining there. On Saturday, New York said farewell to the Chaplain of the City's firefighters. Richard Blystone has this report.


RICHARD BLYSTONE, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Surgery is going to keep news photographer David Handschuh away from some friends' funerals, but this one he wasn't going to miss. Because, in the line of duty, he saw a lot of Father Mike Judge, the firefighter's chaplain, who was killed Tuesday while giving last rites to a fireman.

DAVID HANDSCHUH, NEWS PHOTOGRAPHER: He would hold your hand, and you would just feel good. He emanated some form of just positive goodwill that nobody else I've ever met could. By just touching you, by putting his hand on you and giving you a hug, you just floated away happy.

BLYSTONE: Many of those in the overflow crowd had narrow escapes that day. David Handschuh had two.

HANDSCHUH: We heard the sound and then the building starts falling down like slow motion. And I'm a photographer, and the initial reaction was to raise the camera and take a picture. But something up here said just run. And in the 20-plus years I've been doing this, I've never once run from a -- I've never once run from anything. But it probably saved my life. The wall of debris that came flying down just picked me up and threw me a block.

BLYSTONE: One leg shattered, the other torn up. Firemen pulled him to a delicatessen. Another photographer captured that moment, but it wasn't over.

HANDSCHUH: When the second building collapsed, the facade of that building was blown in. We were trapped once again. Using their hands and tools and sheer strength and will, they pushed their way out.

BLYSTONE: For news photographers, cameramen, reporters, days like that are part of an unwritten contract with life. So, too, with soldiers, policemen, firemen. Which doesn't make it much easier. But the thousands of still missing downtown, they didn't sign up for this.

HANDSCHUH: I'm so sorry that so many people lost their lives over this. It's not comprehendible. Not right.

BLYSTONE: At the end, the photographer pulled out his camera. It may not make much of a picture, but this one's personal. Richard Blystone, CNN, New York.




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