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Target: Terrorism - Terror & Tourism

Aired October 4, 2001 - 06:33   ET

THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY BE UPDATED.


THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY BE UPDATED.
LEON HARRIS, CNN ANCHOR: New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani will leave office at the end of the year, but he says that that shouldn't stop people from coming to take a bite out of the Big Apple.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP, LARRY KING LIVE)

LARRY KING, HOST, LARRY KING LIVE: People wanted you to say.

GIULIANI: ... begged me to stay, begged me to stay. And I understand what that's about. That's not about me. It's about they're afraid and they are worried about transition. And it doesn't reflect on any of the candidates. It's just a reality that's out there that I think a lot of people ignore.

And I thought the best way to handle it is to extend the transition.

KING: Is it OK to laugh?

GIULIANI: Of course it's OK to laugh and cry. You've got to do both. You know, I've lost some very, very close friends, people that I admire, love. I was -- I saw some of them shortly before they died.

You've got to laugh. I mean, that's what life is all about. You have to -- the reason they died was to protect people and let them live. Now those people should go ahead and live, not go shrivel up somewhere, and you don't want to give the terrorists that -- that advantage.

But why -- why let them affect our lives? We've got to be brave. We've got to say to ourselves, when you hear all this stuff about this chemical-this, and biological-that, and this, that and the other thing, I can go out of this building tonight and something will hit me and kill me. I'm not going to not go out of this building for that reason.

Now, look, there are risks that we face, but we have to be brave. We've got to go ahead, we've got to live our lives, let the government work better and more effectively to figure out how to reduce those risks. We'll never eliminate them completely, but people should get on airplanes, people should go to -- should come to New York.

If you wanted to come to New York at any time in the next year, get on a plane the next couple of weeks, come to New York now, basically say to the terrorists, you're not going to make us afraid.

Or if you want to go Disneyland, go to Disneyland. If you want to go...

KING: Wherever.

GIULIANI: ... Hollywood, go to Hollywood. Don't let them stop. Don't let them stop you. You're safe. You're as safe as human beings can be.

KING: I know you -- but when you stand there amid that...

GIULIANI: I know, I know.

KING: ... and you're standing -- the bodies are under you. I mean, let's be -- this is...

GIULIANI: It's very, very tough.

KING: Your optimism comes from -- whoa.

GIULIANI: Land of the free and home of the brave. Is that what it says? Land of the free home of the brave. So let's be brave. Let's get out there and do the things that we're supposed to do.

KING: They didn't deserve to die.

GIULIANI: These people didn't die so that we would let terrorists control our lives. That isn't the reason they died. Terry Hatton and Ray Downey and Pete Gansy (ph), and they didn't die so that, you know, we wouldn't go on airplanes anymore or we'd be afraid to walk around the streets or afraid to go to restaurants. They died so that America would be free, America would have the ability to function, you know, the way -- that's what they want.

And then let's prepare a response, as the president is doing, so that we systematically and thoroughly eliminate terrorism: not just deal with this issue, but eliminate terrorism all over the world.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

HARRIS: In addition to those comments, the mayor also talked with Larry last night about whether or not he would run for office again, or run for the mayor's office again, saying he would not.

He also said -- they also talked about, rather, whether or not the mayor would take over the New York Port Authority. The jury's still out on that one.

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