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Bush, Blair, Aznar, Barroso Hold Press Conference
Aired March 16, 2003 - 13:30 ET
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JOSE BARROSO, PORTUGAL'S PRIME MINISTER (THROUGH TRANSLATOR): Good afternoon, ladies and gentlemen. I am very pleased to welcome here in the Azores the leaders of three friends and allied countries: the United States, Spain and the United Kingdom -- President Bush, Prime Minister Aznar and Prime Minister Tony Blair.
This meeting in the Azores also shows importance of transatlantic relations and also shows the solidarity among our countries. Actually, this agreement has approved two statements: one statement transatlantic relations and a statement on Iraq.
We have joined this initiative and we organized it here in the Azores because we thought this was the last opportunity for a political solution. And this is how we see it, this is the last possibility for a political solution to the problem.
Maybe it's a small chance, a small possibility, but even if it's one in 1 million, it's always worthwhile fighting for a political solution. And I think this is the message that we can get from this Atlantic summit.
As I was saying, for my English-speaking guests, I'll speak English now.
(TRANSLATOR SPEAKING IN PORTUGUESE OVER BARROSO)
... that is halfway between the continent of Europe and the continent of America.
I think it's not only logistically convenient, it has a special political meaning -- the political meaning of our friendship and our commitment to our shared values.
So welcome to all of you. Welcome to you. And I now give the floor to President George Bush.
GEORGE W. BUSH, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: Jose, thank you very much for your hospitality. You've done a great job on such short notice. And I'm honored to be standing here with you and two other friends as we work toward a great cause, and that is peace and security in this world.
We've had a really good discussion. We've been doing a lot of phone talking, and it was good to get together and to visit and to talk.
We concluded that tomorrow is a moment of truth for the world. Many nations have voiced a commitment to peace and security, and now they must demonstrate that commitment to peace and security in the only effective way: by supporting the immediate and unconditional disarmament of Saddam Hussein.
The dictator of Iraq and his weapons of mass destruction are a threat to the security of free nations. He is a danger to his neighbors. He is a sponsor of terrorism. He is an obstacle to progress in the Middle East. For decades he has been the cruel, cruel oppressor of the Iraq people.
On this very day, 15 years ago, Saddam Hussein launched a chemical weapons attack on the Iraqi village of Halabja. With a single order, the Iraqi regime killed thousands of men and women and children without mercy or without shame.
Saddam Hussein has proven he is capable of any crime. We must not permit his crimes to reach across the world.
Saddam Hussein has a history of mass murder. He possesses the weapons of mass murder. He agrees -- he agreed to disarm Iraq of these weapons as a condition for ending the Gulf War over a decade ago.
The United Nations Security Council and Resolution 1441 has declared Iraq in material breach of its longstanding obligations, demanded once again Iraq's full and immediate disarmament, and promised serious consequences if the regime refused to comply.
That resolution was passed unanimously, and its logic is inescapable: The Iraqi regime will disarm itself, or the Iraqi regime will be disarmed by force. And the regime has not disarmed itself.
Action to remove the threat from Iraq would also allow the Iraqi people to build a better future for their society. And Iraq's liberation would be the beginning, not the end, of our commitment to its people.
We will supply humanitarian relief, bring the economic sanctions to a swift close, and work for the long-term recovery of Iraq's economy. We'll make sure that Iraq's natural resources are used for the benefit of their owners, the Iraqi people.
Iraq has the potential to be a great nation. Iraq's people are skilled and educated. We'll push as quickly as possible for an Iraqi interim authority to draw upon the talents of Iraq's people to rebuild their nation.
We're committed to the goal of a unified Iraq, with democratic institutions in which members of all ethnic and religious groups are treated with dignity and respect.
To achieve this vision, we will work closely with the international community, including the United Nations and our coalition partners.
If military force is required, we'll quickly seek new Security Council resolutions to encourage broad participation in the process of helping the Iraqi people to build a free Iraq.
Crucial days lie ahead for the world.
I want to thank the leaders here today and many others for stepping forward and taking leadership and showing their resolve in the cause of peace and the cause of security.
JOSE MARIA AZNAR, SPANISH PRIME MINISTER (THROUGH TRANSLATOR): Good evening, everyone. I would firstly like to thank the prime minister, Jose Manuel Durao, for his hospitality and welcome, which I particularly am grateful for. And I am very pleased to be here in the Azores once again.
I have short remarks on our debates on this situation and on the documents we have agreed on during today's meeting.
I first would like to refer to our document on Atlantic solidarity. We have renewed our Atlantic commitment on our common values and principles in favor of democracy, freedom and the rule of law.
We understand that the expression of this commitment is essential by way of guarantee of peace, security and international freedom. And I honestly believe that there is no other alternative to the expression of the Atlantic commitment in terms of security.
We are committed on a day-to-day fight against new threats, such as terrorism, weapons of mass destruction and tyrannical regimes that do not comply with international law.
They threaten all of us, and we must all act consequently.
This transatlantic link, this transatlantic solidarity, has always been, is and should continue to be, in my opinion, a great European commitment. And as such, amongst other things, we express it this way: Without this commitment, today's Europe could not be understood. And without that commitment, it would be very difficult to picture the Europe of tomorrow.
So I would like to invite our friends, our allies, to leave aside any circumstantial differences and to work together seriously for that commitment of democracy, freedom and peace, so that this becomes a commitment of us all.
We've agreed on launching, on boosting the Middle East peace process, and on our vision that that peace process has to culminate with all necessary security guarantees and putting an end to terrorism. And this should end with the peaceful co-existence of two states, an independent Palestinian state and the Israeli state. In view of the situation created by Iraq with their continued noncompliance of international law, I would like to remind you that we all said before we came here that we were not coming to the Azores to make declaration of war. That we were coming after having made every possible effort, after having made this effort, continuing to make this effort, to working to achieve the greatest possible agreement and for international law to be respected and for U.N. resolutions to be respected.
And we would like to say that we are aware of the fact that this is the last opportunity, the last opportunity expressed in Resolution 1441, adopted unanimously by the Security Council.
And that, being aware that this is the last opportunity, we are also making the last effort, and we are ready to make this last effort of the very many efforts we've been making throughout these last weeks and months.
We are well aware of the international world public opinion, of its concern, and we are also very well aware of our responsibilities and obligations.
If Saddam Hussein wants to disarm and avoid the serious consequences, which he has been warned about by the United Nations, he can do so. And nothing in our document nor in our statement can prevent him from doing so, if he wants to. So, his is the sole responsibility.
TONY BLAIR, PRIME MINISTER, GREAT BRITAIN: Thank you, Jose Maria.
Thank you, Jose, for hosting us today.
And I think it's worth just returning to the key point, which is our responsibility to uphold the will of the United Nations set out in Resolution 1441 last November. And for four and a half months now, we have worked hard to get Saddam to cooperate fully, unconditionally, as that resolution demanded.
Even some days ago, we were prepared to set out clear tests that allowed us to conclude whether he was cooperating fully or not, with a clear ultimatum to him if he refused to do so.
And the reason we approached it in that way is that this is what we agreed in Resolution 1441: This was his final opportunity. He had to disarm unconditionally. Serious consequences would follow if he failed to do so.
And this is really the impasse that we have, because some say there should be no ultimatum, no authorization of force in any new U.N. resolution; instead, more discussion in the event of noncompliance.
But the truth is that without a credible ultimatum authorizing force in the event of noncompliance, then more discussion is just more delay, with Saddam remaining armed with weapons of mass destruction and continuing a brutal, murderous regime in Iraq.
And this game that he is playing is, frankly, a game that he has played over the last 12 years. Disarmament never happens, but instead the international community is drawn into some perpetual negotiation. Gestures designed to divide the international community, but never real and concrete cooperation leading to disarmament.
And there is not a single person on the Security Council that doubts the fact he is not fully cooperating today. Nobody, even those who disagree with the position that we have outlined, is prepared to say there is full cooperation, as 1441 demanded.
Not a single interview has taken place outside of Iraq, even though 1441 provided for it. Still no proper production or evidence of the destruction of, for example, just to take one example, the 10,000 liters of anthrax that the inspectors just a week ago said was unaccounted for.
And that is why it is so important that the international community at this time gives a strong and unified message. And I have to say that I really believe that had we given that strong message some time ago, Saddam might have realized that the games had to stop.
So now we have reached the point of decision. And we make a final appeal for there to be that strong, unified message on behalf of the international community that lays down a clear ultimatum to Saddam that authorizes force if he continues to defy the will of the whole of the international community set out in 1441.
We will do all we can in the short time that remains to make a final round of contacts, to see whether there is a way through this impasse.
But we are in the final stages. Because after 12 years of failing to disarm him, now is the time when we have to decide.
Two other points, briefly, on the documents we've put before you. The first is, that President Aznar was just saying to you a moment ago on the transatlantic alliance is, I think, very important.
Some of you will have heard me say this before, but let me just repeat it. I believe Europe and America should stand together on the big issues of the day. I think it is a tragedy when we don't. And that transatlantic alliance is strong, and we need to strengthen it still further.
And secondly, we've set out for you that, should it come to conflict, we make a pledge to the people of Iraq.
As President Bush was just saying to you a moment or two ago, it is the people of Iraq who are the primary victims of Saddam: the thousands of children that die needlessly every year; the people locked up in his prisons or executed simply for showing disagreement with the regime; a country that is potentially prosperous is reduced to poverty; 60 percent of the population reliant on food aid.
And what we say is that we will protect Iraq's territorial integrity. We will support representative government that unites Iraq on the democratic basis of human rights and the rule of law. That we will help Iraq rebuild -- and not rebuild because of the problems of conflict, where if it comes to that, we will do everything we can to minimize the suffering of the Iraqi people, but rebuild Iraq because of the appalling legacy that the rule of Saddam has left the Iraqi people.
And then in particular, Iraq's natural resources remain the property of the people of Iraq. And that wealth should be used for the Iraqi people. It is theirs and will remain so, administered by the U.N. in the way we set out.
And finally, on the Middle East peace process. I welcome very much the statement that President Bush made the other day. I think it's important now. He said he wanted a partner on the Palestinian side.
I think the coming appointment of Abu Mazen is so important there. It allows us to take this process forward. The road map gives us the way forward. The appointment of Abu Mazen gives us the right partner to take this forward.
And I believe that that will demonstrate -- and it's important to demonstrate it particularly at this time -- that our approach to people in the Middle East, in that troubled region, is indeed even- handed.
And all of us will work to make sure that vision of a Middle East, two states -- Israel confident of its security, a Palestinian state that is viable -- comes about and is made reality.
BUSH: Yes, they couldn't hear the question.
QUESTION (THROUGH TRANSLATOR): I was asking the Portuguese prime minister, how does he see the result of this summit? Does the prime minister think that, starting now, Portugal has more responsibilities with this war that seems to be inevitable?
BARROSO (THROUGH TRANSLATOR): The results of this summit, as I described them and as all the other heads of state and government said it too, this summit is exactly this: This is the last opportunity for a political solution to this very serious problem for the international community.
This has been said here. It's been said here that tomorrow will start with these last initiatives toward a political solution. And for that reason, I'm very, very happy with the results of this summit.
Now, coming to our responsibility in case there is a conflict, I must say that this responsibility falls entirely on the dictator Saddam Hussein. He bears the entire responsibility, because he has not respected, for all these years, international law and consistently violated the U.N. resolutions.
And in that case, if there is a conflict, I want to repeat it once more: Portuguese will be next and side by side with his allies. And the fact that we are here today, in the Azores, with the United States, with Spain and with the U.K., this is very significant.
As it's been said here before, the transatlantic relationship is very, very important, not only for Europe and for the U.S., but it's very important for the whole world.
I remember, a few days ago, Kofi Annan in the European Council in Brussels said the same thing. He said, this is very important, it's very important for Europe and the U.S. to remain united, and not separate, because the world needs the U.S. and Europe working together toward the same direction, in the same sense, not only about the security, but also fighting (ph) underdevelopment (ph) and all the other tasks that fall to the international community.
QUESTION: Mr. President, before I ask my question, I just want to nail down one thing so there's no confusion. When you talk about tomorrow being the moment of truth, are you saying that is the...
BUSH: Is this the question? Or are you trying to work in two questions?
QUESTION: Yes, sir.
Because there's one thing we need to make clear, that when you say tomorrow is the moment of truth, does that mean tomorrow is the last day that the resolution can be voted up or down and, at the end of the day tomorrow, one way or another, the diplomatic window has closed?
BUSH: That's what I'm saying.
QUESTION: Thank you, sir. And now for the question.
BUSH: And now for your question.
QUESTION: That being the case, regardless...
BUSH: That was my answer.
QUESTION: ... regardless of whether the resolution goes up or down, or gets withdrawn, it seems to me you're going to be facing a moment of truth.
Given that you've already said you don't think there's very much chance Saddam Hussein is going to disarm, and given that you say you don't think there's very much chance that he's going to go into exile, aren't we going to war here?
BUSH: Tomorrow is the day that we will determine whether or not diplomacy can work.
And we sat and visited about this issue, about how best to spend our time between now and tomorrow. And as Prime Minister Blair said, we'll be working the phones, talking to our partners, talking to those who may not clearly understand the objective. And we'll see how it goes tomorrow. Saddam Hussein can leave the country, if he's interested in peace. You see, the decision is his to make. It's been his to make all along, as to whether or not there's the use of military. He got to decide whether he's going to disarm, and he didn't. He can decide whether he wants to leave the country. These are his decisions to make. And thus far he has made bad decisions.
QUESTION (THROUGH INTERPRETER): I understand that if tomorrow is the day for taking the final decision, that means that you consider that there's no possible way out through the United Nations? Because a majority does not support a war action.
I would like to know, Mr. Blair, Mr. Bush, whether, in that military offensive, you count on many countries? Whether it's going to be the U.K. and the U.S. carrying out the military offensive?
I understand from what Mr. Blair has said that you are counting on the U.N. for the reconstruction. Are you going to look for other countries through the United Nations?
And for Mr. Aznar, what is Spain's participation in that military offensive, in addition to your political support?
BUSH: (OFF-MIKE) in 1441, which was unanimously approved, that said Saddam Hussein would unconditionally disarm, and if he didn't there would be serious consequences.
The United Nations Security Council looked at the issue four and a half months ago and voted unanimously to say, "Disarm immediately and unconditionally, and if you don't, there are going to be serious consequences." The world has spoken, and it did in a unified voice.
BLAIR: The issue is very simply this, that we cannot have a situation where what happens through the United Nations, having agreed 1441, having said there will be serious consequences if he doesn't cooperate fully and unconditionally, what we cannot have is a situation where we simply go back for endless discussion.
Now, we have provided the right diplomatic way through this, which is to lay down a clear ultimatum to Saddam, cooperate or face disarmament by force. And that is entirely within the logic, the letter, the spirit of 1441.
And that is why, you know, all the way through we have tried to provide a diplomatic solution. After all, we're four and a half months since we passed Resolution 1441. We're now three months on from the declaration that Saddam made on the 8th of December that not a single person in the international community, not one, believes was an honest declaration of what he had. And yet, 1441 said the first step of cooperation was to make an honest declaration.
So when people say, have we exhausted all the diplomatic avenues? We've tried exhausting them. But understand, from our perspective and from the perspective of the security of the world, we cannot simply go back to the Security Council for this discussion to be superseded by that discussion to be superseded by another discussion.
That's what's happened for 12 years. That's why he's still got the weapons of mass destruction.
We have to come to the point of decision. And that really is what the next period of time is going to be about.
AZNAR (THROUGH TRANSLATOR): Well, I would like to say that this statement we're making today is we've all said, is one -- it's a last chance, one last attempt to reach the greatest possible consensus amongst ourselves. And I can assure all of you that we've made -- we have all made enormous efforts, and we're going to continue making these efforts, in order to try to reach an agreement, to reach a solution.
We have our own worry, our own responsibility to make U.N. resolutions be abided by. If the Security Council unanimously adopts a resolution, Resolution 1441, giving one last opportunity to disarm, to someone who has weapons of mass destruction -- we know he has used them -- the Security Council cannot, one year after the other, wait for its resolutions to be implemented.
That would be the best way to do away with it altogether. And it would be a good way to do away with all the United Nations' credibility. And we, honestly, don't want that to happen.
To me, there is no -- you cannot have the same distance between legality and impunity. And neither Saddam Hussein nor any other tyrant with weapons of mass destruction can set the rules for international law and the international community.
QUESTION: Can I ask, first of all, Prime Minister Blair, you've said that one second resolution be put down and voted on. Can you be clear: Is that what's going to tomorrow under all circumstances?
And either way, also, if I may, for President Bush, if you don't get that second resolution, what is the future for the United Nations? You've talked about Saddam Hussein dividing the world community. Surely he's succeeded.
BLAIR: Well, on your last point, I think this is one of the things that is tragic about this situation, that Saddam plays these games and we carry on allowing him to play them.
Now, we will do, in the next period of time, in respect to the resolution, what we believe to be in the interests of the U.N. But I want to say why I think it is so important that even now, at this late stage, we try to get the United Nations to be the root of resolving this. Because the threat is there and everyone accepts it: the threat of weapons of mass destruction, the threat of weapons of mass destruction in the hands of terrorists who will cause maximum damage to our people. Everybody accepts the disarmament of Saddam has to happen. Everybody accepts that he was supposed to cooperate fully with the inspectors. Everybody accepts that he is not doing so.
So whatever the tactics within the U.N. -- and that's something we can decide -- whatever those tactics, the key point of principle is this, that when we came together last November and laid down Resolution 1441, now is the moment when we decide whether we meant it and it was his final opportunity to disarm or face serious consequences, or whether, alternatively, we are simply going to drag out the diplomatic process forever. And that's why I say it's the point of decision.
QUESTION: Vote or not?
BUSH: I was the guy that said they ought to vote. And one country voted. They showed their cards, I believe. It's an old Texas expression, show your cards, when you're playing poker. France showed their cards.
After I said what I said, they said they were going to veto anything that held Saddam to account. So cards have been played. And we just have to take an assessment after tomorrow to determine what that card meant.
And let me say something about the U.N. It's a very important organization. That's why I went there on September the 12th, 2002, to give the speech, the speech that called the U.N. into account, that said if you're going to pass resolutions, let's make sure your words mean something.
Because I understand the wars of the 21st century are going to require incredible international cooperation. We're going to have to cooperate to cut off the money of the terrorists and the ability for nations, dictators who have weapons of mass destruction to provide training and perhaps weapons to terrorist organizations.
We need to cooperate, and we are. Our countries up here are cooperating incredibly well.
And the U.N. must mean something. Remember Rwanda or Kosovo. The U.N. didn't do its job. And we hope tomorrow the U.N. will do its job. If not, all of us need to step back and try to figure out how to make the U.N. work better, as we head into the 21st century.
Perhaps one way will be, if we use military force in a post- Saddam Iraq, the U.N. will definitely need to have a role. And that way it can begin to get its legs, legs of responsibility, back.
But it's important for the U.N. to be able to function well if we're going to keep the peace, and I will work hard to see to it that, at least from our perspective, that the U.N. is able to be a responsible body, and when it says something, it means it, for the sake of peace and for the sake of the security and for the capacity to win the first war of the 21st century, which is the war against terrorism and weapons of mass destruction in the hands of dictators.
Thank you, all.
BARROSO (THROUGH TRANSLATOR): Thank you very much, ladies and gentlemen. This is the end of the conference. Have a good trip.
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