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CNN Presents: Angelina Jolie: Her Mission and Motherhood

Aired June 24, 2006 - 20:00   ET

THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY BE UPDATED.


ANDERSON COOPER, CNN ANCHOR: Thanks for joining us, a special edition of 360.
Tonight, an exclusive interview -- "Angelina Jolie: Her Mission and Motherhood."

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ANNOUNCER: She's a superstar, an actor who has reached the heights of fame. Their lives are a world away from Hollywood -- tonight, the journey that brought them together and changed her life.

ANGELINA JOLIE, ACTRESS: By the time I -- I got on the plane and on the way home, I knew that I would somehow commit to doing something with these people in my life. And I knew that that would be the only way to settle it in myself.

ANNOUNCER: Now she's on a crusade, no understatement, to change the world, an actor turned tireless advocate, and also a mother, the most famous mother in the world.

JOLIE: At the last minute, I became the mother that was sure everything was going to go wrong. And she's healthy. And it was amazing.

ANNOUNCER: Giving birth for the first time, giving her two other children a sister -- an exclusive interview with Angelina Jolie.

(END VIDEOTAPE)

ANNOUNCER: This is a special edition of ANDERSON COOPER 360: "Angelina Jolie: Her Mission and Motherhood."

From New York, here's Anderson Cooper.

COOPER: Welcome to this two-hour special edition of 360 -- tonight, a remarkable glimpse into the life of a world-famous actress and into the lives of millions of people around the globe, whose names and stories rarely make headlines.

As we speak, as you are sitting in your homes watching TV right now, there are some 15 million people around the world who are unable to be at home. They fled wars and hunger, persecution and poverty. Fifteen million people tonight cannot go home. It may seem strange that a glamorous actress like Angelina Jolie would devote so much of her time and money to help these displaced people. But I think, in the next two hours, you will come to understand why she does it and how her mission and motherhood has changed her life.

I sat down with Angelina Jolie in Los Angeles last week. She and Brad Pitt had only returned from Namibia four days earlier, where she had just given birth to a healthy baby girl, Shiloh Nouvel Jolie-Pitt. We talked about the birth.

But I began by asking her about another trip to Africa, one she made several years ago. It was a trip to war-torn Sierra Leone, the first time Angelina Jolie went to a refugee camp. It was a trip which would forever change her life.

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COOPER: The first time you went to a refugee camp, what was that like?

JOLIE: God, it was -- it was Sierra Leone. So, it was a different kind of a camp. It was -- they were still having civil war. And it was kind of just this area of people who had been -- who had had their limbs cut off from the violence. And it was an amputee camp. And it was probably to this day the worst camp I have ever seen.

COOPER: Had you ever seen anything like that before?

JOLIE: I hadn't seen anything like that. And -- and I don't think any -- it was just -- it was the most -- it was one of those things where you -- in so many ways, it was -- I was so grateful to have having -- had that experience. And I knew I was changing as a person. I was learning so much about life.

And I was -- so, in some ways, it was the best moment of my life, because it...

COOPER: Right.

JOLIE: ... changed me for the better. And I was never going to be never going to be -- going to want for more in my life or be...

(CROSSTALK)

COOPER: I mean, how did it change you?

JOLIE: I was young. And I grew up in Los Angeles. And I was very -- you know, so...

COOPER: And all that implies.

JOLIE: And I'm an actor, so everything is very focused on certain things in life.

I was very focused on myself, on my career, on my life, on this -- you know, we have so much and we want for other things, and we don't realize how grateful we should be about things. I had been -- done things, you know, like most teenagers, hurting myself, or doing things...

COOPER: Right.

JOLIE: I mean, all those things. You take your own life for granted.

And then, suddenly, you see these people who are really fighting something, who are really surviving, who have so much pain and loss and things that you have no idea. And you just feel like, your whole life, you have just been so sheltered and so spoiled with so much.

And you're suddenly just so grateful. I remember I called my mom, just told her how much I loved her. And I was so grateful I knew where she was and so grateful I knew where my brother was, that -- that it just changed everything.

COOPER: And, then, how do you come back? I mean, it's got to be -- it's always -- I have found it always a hard thing, once you're there and you see that, and your eyes are open and your heart is open and your mind is open. And then you come back, and especially in this world that you live in, it's got to be such a strange -- it's got to be surreal.

(CROSSTALK)

JOLIE: By the time I -- I got on the plane and on the way home, I -- I didn't -- I knew that I would somehow commit to doing something with these people in my life. And I knew that would be the only way to -- to settle it in myself.

(END VIDEOTAPE)

COOPER: Well, in the next two hours, you will see exactly what Angelina Jolie chose to do and how it has changed her life and the life of her kids and the lives of countless others around the world.

But, first, the news of the day -- disturbing developments out of Iraq, evidence that two American soldiers missing for days are in fact dead, evidence that is also existing of raw savagery. The bodies were meant to be found. They were rigged to explode and slaughtered to send a message.

Reporting for us tonight from the Pentagon, CNN's Jamie McIntyre.

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JAMIE MCINTYRE, CNN SENIOR PENTAGON CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Military sources could not say how or exactly when Privates Kristian Menchaca and Thomas Tucker died. But they suffered what was described as significant trauma, so much so that DNA tests will be required to make a final identification.

The bodies were found in early evening along a road in an isolated area near Yusufiyah, the same village where the soldiers were captured three nights earlier, when they came under attack while guarding a bridge over a canal. Local Iraqis spotted the bodies and tipped the U.S. military, warning the remains could be booby-trapped.

The recovery took nearly 12 hours, because the bodies had, in fact, been rigged with explosives and the main route to the site lined with IEDs, in what the U.S. military says was a clear attempt to target the recovery team.

MAJ. GEN. WILLIAM CALDWELL, U.S. ARMY SPOKESMAN, COALITION FORCES IN IRAQ: We secured the area with a fairly large group of soldiers last night, so as to protect that and allow nobody either to enter or exit that location, and, then, at first dawn, brought in explosive ordnance and other assets and went in and recovered our -- what we believe to be our two American soldiers.

MCINTYRE: One IED exploded, but no one was hurt, says a military spokesperson. It was the same tactic used last April, when insurgents posted this video, after claiming to have shot down an Apache helicopter, also in the vicinity of Yusufiyah. In that case, the U.S. military now says 19 IEDs had been planted near the wreckage, slowing recovery of the remains of two pilots for half-a-day.

A radical Islamist Web site that usually carries messages from the insurgency boasted that al Qaeda's new leader in Iraq, believed to be Egyptian Abu al-Masri, personally killed the soldiers. The posting said, in part, "We executed God's will and slaughtered the two crusader animals we had in captivity."

The U.S. military said it could not verify the claim.

For the families, agonizing questions, such as why the usual practice of not deploying soldiers in such small numbers appears to have been ignored.

MARIO VASQUEZ, UNCLE OF PRIVATE 1ST CLASS KRISTIAN MENCHACA: I think that they -- they should protect them more. They should send more soldiers when they go to checkpoints, and -- and check everybody.

MCINTYRE (on camera): The U.S. military is disputing reports that the soldiers may have made a critical mistake by splitting up after coming under attack, leaving the three-man team vulnerable to a follow-up attack. Military officials insist there was only one attack, but that still leaves open the question of why the three soldiers were essentially alone in such a dangerous part of Iraq.

Jamie McIntyre, CNN, the Pentagon.

(END VIDEOTAPE)

COOPER: Well, to complete a grisly picture, today in Iraq was marked by more mayhem. In one attack, a suicide bomber decided that elderly women were a fitting target. He blew himself up at an old- folks home.

The violence today fueled more debate in Congress, Democrats and Republicans battling with each other over exactly what to do in Iraq. Covering it all for us tonight, the best political team in the business, CNN's John Roberts, John King, and Suzanne Malveaux, who's with the president in Vienna.

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COOPER: Suzanne, when a tragedy like this happens to U.S. soldiers found dead, how closely does the White House follow it, in terms of politics? Obviously, they are mourning these deaths, as everyone else is. But, in the political realm, do they worry that it will somehow erase some of the momentum that they have been trying to build for Iraq?

SUZANNE MALVEAUX, CNN WHITE HOUSE CORRESPONDENT: Well, Anderson, it really couldn't come at a worse time for the administration.

It's been trying to build on this momentum, the progress. That's the message it's been emphasizing -- so, the president, of course, meeting with European leaders. That's what they want to focus on here. But it really underscores the danger, the volatility of the region.

The president and his aides have to acknowledge that. At the same time, you know, his legacy is tied to Iraq. So, what you're having here is that he's not going to ask for troops this time around. He will ask for cash, for money, that is. There's some $13 billion that allies have said and pledged that they're going to use for Iraqi reconstruction, about $3 billion they have actually come through on. So, that is the push the president, of course, is going to aim at discussions with these European leaders.

But it really leaves him in a very difficult position here.

COOPER: The death of these two service members also being debated on Capitol Hill, John Roberts, some proposing that the U.S. should insist that the new Iraqi government not grant amnesty to insurgents who have killed Americans -- and Democrats also introducing two different resolutions on Iraq, one calling for a phased redeployment, the other a withdrawal of troops by -- by this time next year. And, yet, the Democrats say they're on the same page.

JOHN ROBERTS, CNN SENIOR NATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Yes.

This has -- this has been the problem for Democrats. And this seems to be continuing to be the problem for the Democrats. I think Harry Reid really sort of summed up the whole issue today when he said, I think that even though we have at least two positions, I think, if you look at them closely, they're basically the same.

There are Democratic strategists I talked to today who said...

(CROSSTALK)

COOPER: Wait a minute. That doesn't make any sense.

ROBERTS: I know it doesn't make any sense. (LAUGHTER)

ROBERTS: They have got this -- the idea that they have got more than one position.

One Democratic strategist I talked to today said that this whole idea about troop withdrawals is the wrong thing to be talking about. If you really want to challenge the president, you want to challenge the Republican Party, what you have got to start talking about is leadership here, because if you start talking about leadership and only leadership, and not a bunch of different positions on when troops should get out, you take away the argument that Karl Rove is making, that the Democrats are the party of cut-and-run.

And then you also force voters to take a look at what the record is. And then the White House and Republicans have to defend themselves on the news coming out of Iraq every day, such as the terrible tragedy that befell those two soldiers over the weekend.

COOPER: John King, I mean, how big this is debate within the Democratic Party? How concerned are Democrats that a resolution asking for an actual hard-timetable withdrawal is just playing into Republican hands?

JOHN KING, CNN CHIEF NATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Well, they tried, in the Democratic Caucus, to convince Senator Kerry not to offer that resolution. He will offer it tomorrow, is our understanding. The vote is likely to come on Thursday morning.

So, the Democrats will quickly follow with their other resolution, calling for a phased redeployment. Some would call that a phased withdrawal. You choose your word.

How worried are the Democrats? They have the '02 and the '04 elections to tell them, when the Republicans stress national security and try to paint the Democrats as being weak, the Republicans, in the last two election cycles, have been victorious on that argument. And there are many defeated Democrats who would say, they would say unfairly, but they were attacked pretty good on that argument from a Republican standpoint.

So, the Democrats are worried. What they hope, though, Anderson, is that this war is now so unpopular, the American people are so fed up with it, perhaps now repulsed by word of what happened to these two young soldiers, that any argument about change will overwhelm the Republican rebuttal. But, yes, the Democrats are worried.

COOPER: Suzanne Malveaux, clearly, this White House and the Republican Party has latched on to those three words, cut and run, cut and run. I think, in the next couple months, it sounds like we are going to be hearing an awful lot of that phrase.

Why do they think that in particular will work?

MALVEAUX: Well, essentially, it's what Republicans have really capitalized off of over the last couple of elections. It's traditional that they look at the Democrats as really being weak when it comes to security.

President Bush has always been out there very strong in those numbers when it comes to security. And, when they look at the polls, they see that the president's in trouble here. Americans no longer believe that he's as strong or capable or credible when it comes to that area. So, of course, they're going to try to stick it to the Democrats.

COOPER: John Roberts, John King, Suzanne Malveaux, thanks.

(END VIDEOTAPE)

COOPER: Well, so much for the politics. Now back to the people.

As we said moments ago, it's World Refugee Day. And, tonight, Iraq is a major area of concern for the United Nations Refugee Agency. Here's the "Raw Data."

More than 250,000 Iraqis are refugees living outside the country. They fled. That's about 100,000 fewer than in 2004. But 1.2 million Iraqis are internally displaced, forced from their homes, mostly since the war began. They're still living in the country of Iraq, but they're living much like refugees.

When we come back, Angelina Jolie, her mission and motherhood -- she talks about the little boy who changed everything in her life and why she is still haunted by his story, also, how her work with refugees has shaped the family she's creating with Brad Pitt. Angelina talks about what it was like inside the delivery room giving birth to Shiloh.

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COOPER: What was it like actually giving birth? I mean, you had two children through adoption. What was it like?

JOLIE: Well, we ended up having -- she was in breach, so I ended up having a cesarean, so it was very quick.

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COOPER: For the first time since Shiloh was born, Angelina talks about the birth, Africa, and wanting even more kids -- when this special edition of 360 continues.

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JOLIE: I am so inspired by these people. And they are the greatest strength. So, it's not -- you have that memory. You have that moment -- I have had it -- where, even just today, I was, you know, breast-feeding, and tired, and thinking, God, I really don't know how I'm going to get myself together to be thinking for this interview. But you think, Jesus, the things these people go through. I owe it to all of them to get myself together, to stop whining about being tired, and get there and get focused, and, because God, it's the least I can do.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

COOPER: And she did get herself together and get focused.

What Angelina Jolie says is the least she can do may be her most inspiring role ever, goodwill ambassador for the U.N. Refugee Agency, the agency that helps nearly 15 million displaced people around the world. This program tonight is being watched not only on CNN in America, but on CNN International, seen in more than 200 countries and territories around the world.

Since 2001, Angelina Jolie has traveled to some 20 countries with the U.N., speaking out for those who often have no voice at all.

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COOPER (voice-over): It was a role she embraced with all the zeal of a true humanitarian, identifying the problems faced by people in each country, and doing all she could to help. On her trips for the UNHCR, she pays her own way and says she donates one-third of her income to causes she believes in.

JOLIE: I believe in the United Nations and UNHCR, because, before the -- the vulnerable -- millions of vulnerable people around the world can be assisted, their children can be assisted, health care and so forth, they first need protection. And they need to be safe.

COOPER: In 2001, Jolie went to Pakistan, visiting camps now filled with nearly two million Afghan refugees, the world's largest refugee population, according to the U.N. Jolie donated $1 million to help ease their suffering.

In 2002, while making the movie "Beyond Borders," she made her first trip to Namibia, visiting a camp that housed Angolan refugees. She and her production team donated tents, bedding and mattresses. In Thailand, she toured the Tham Hin refugee camp, then spent four days in Ecuador, visiting some of the two million Colombians displaced from their homes. The U.N. calls it the Western Hemisphere's worst humanitarian crisis.

In 2004, Angelina turned attention to the more than 600,000 refugees from Sudan, visiting a camp in Chad where thousands have fled the fighting in Darfur. And, in 2005, she viewed firsthand the aftermath of the October earthquake in Kashmir. It may seem strange at first, but Angelina Jolie says, in a sense, she has found her place among these people in need. She's found a role she feels is the most important work of her life.

JOLIE: And I do feel more comfortable there. And I will always feel uncomfortable in the middle of New York or Washington all dressed up. And I will always feel a bit like a punk kid. (END VIDEOTAPE)

(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)

COOPER: Part of the problem that a lot of people watching this tonight, watching this on television, watching these stories, after a while, it becomes this blur of sort of endless suffering in Africa. And I think there's a lot of hopelessness. People sort of throw up their hands and say, well, look, I gave -- there's only so much you can do.

JOLIE: Yes.

COOPER: And it seems endless. Do you -- how do you fight that? How do you...

JOLIE: Well, I think to acknowledge that and say, yes, it is another -- we understand that.

But the borders were drawn in Africa not that long ago. These people are tribal people. We have -- we colonized them. We have -- there's a lot of changes that's happened, even just between the blacks and whites so recently. There's a lot we need to -- to understand and be tolerant of, and help them to -- they have just recently learned to govern themselves.

But there are also pockets where they're really trying to pull themselves together. And we need to be there to really support them at that time, to help them to understand how better to govern. It really is a work in progress. It's not just going to happen overnight.

COOPER: You're very modest. But you're -- you're not just talking the talk. You're walking the walk. I have read that you give a third of your income to refugees and other causes. Is that true?

JOLIE: Yes.

COOPER: That's incredible.

JOLIE: Yes. Well, I have a stupid income for what I do for a living.

COOPER: Well...

(LAUGHTER)

JOLIE: You know what I mean?

COOPER: Well...

JOLIE: To -- to be fair, I, you know...

COOPER: But, hey, look, there are a lot of people who have that income and more and -- and don't do that. Do you feel it makes a difference? Do you see change? (CROSSTALK)

JOLIE: I do.

And I know it's frustrating for people that don't -- that aren't in the field, because you give money. You don't know where it goes. I have been really lucky, because I can go there and I can say -- I can meet some people who say, God, we really need a well. And I can go back a year later and see it built.

COOPER: And does it change the way you see your life here? I mean, I sort of imagine you walking on some red carpet and giving interviews about a movie and...

JOLIE: I actually -- the first -- my first trip back, I think it was a week later. I had to go to the Golden Globes. And it was...

(LAUGHTER)

JOLIE: It was. It was one of those...

COOPER: What was that like?

JOLIE: I actually thought -- I thought I was going to be really bitter. I thought I was going to come at it with, God, I have seen something that nobody here understands, and there's all this money, and there's all this -- and, instead, I think something had changed in me as a human being.

And, instead, I saw, God, these people probably have their kids at home nervous that they're going to -- God, these people are so worried about how good they look tonight. God, these people are...

COOPER: That's nice, actually.

JOLIE: And it became this -- yes, it just -- it became more -- I just saw everybody as human and wished for them that they had the experience I had.

COOPER: You know, I have read these stories of these people, these people chasing you and stuff, and taking photographs. Do you ever just want to yell at them, like, you know, spend a little bit of money and go to the Congo or...

(CROSSTALK)

JOLIE: Yes. Of course, yes. I mean, we have talked about that Brad -- we have joked about that, like, maybe we could just go somewhere and they can follow us into -- the positive side of it, yes.

(LAUGHTER)

COOPER: Force them to go to the Congo?

JOLIE: Yes, force them to go to the Congo.

(LAUGHTER)

COOPER: The U.N., which has -- it's sort of not a popular thing to support. There's a lot of people, you know, the U.N., their oil- for-food scandal, you know, the bureaucracy of it, the slow response to the genocide in Rwanda. Yet, you are out there firmly behind it.

(CROSSTALK)

COOPER: Yes. Why?

JOLIE: Absolutely.

COOPER: What is it?

JOLIE: Well, because I think we hear a lot of -- we certainly hear a lot of the negative things and -- about the U.N. You know, you hear -- you hear about the negative things that have gone on. You don't hear on a daily basis the amount of people that are kept alive or protected by the U.N.

And if that list was plastered everywhere, I think people would be in shock and have a little more respect. I certainly think it needs to -- it needs reform. I mean, it's certainly not a perfect organization, by any means. It's the closest thing that we have got, you know, to -- to a real international institution that listens to all sides, represents all sides, and -- and can make a certain -- certain kinds of decisions.

COOPER: Yes.

JOLIE: There's 19 million people under the care of UNHCR. And they're in 116 countries. Their budget is about $1.2 billion a year, which, for that many people -- and they're starting to also handle internally displaced.

And they're also starting to handle -- there's -- there's just a lot that people don't know about -- about the U.N. and what it does in a positive way. And it does have its hands tied a lot. I have noticed that in countries. I have gone to countries where I have wanted to be angry about something. And you realize there's such a fine balance, because you also have to be -- they have to be allowed to work in these countries.

COOPER: Well, it's interesting, actually. You and -- and Bono, I noticed, are activists, and yet in a very, really sort of nonpartisan way. And I have talked to him about that a little bit.

I mean, there are some celebrities who throw stones or Molotov cocktails to try to get things done. You seem to be trying to work both sides. Republican, Democrat, it doesn't seem to matter. You seem to be trying to effect change and do it in a smart way, as opposed to just yelling.

JOLIE: Yes. Well, hopefully. I'm not yelling yet.

(LAUGHTER) COOPER: Well, give it some time.

JOLIE: But, yes. No, absolutely. I mean, I think that's the only way...

COOPER: If that bill doesn't get funded, maybe...

(CROSSTALK)

JOLIE: Then I am going to yell.

(CROSSTALK)

JOLIE: But absolutely. I mean, I think it's the only way to -- and there are -- just because someone's Republican doesn't mean that they don't also have the capacity to understand or care about children for this bill or that bill.

You have to speak to every person individually. You can't just have an assumption that, like, well, that person's an extreme...

(CROSSTALK)

COOPER: It's got to be a hard thing, though, for someone who -- I'm sure, you know, you have your own opinions about things. It's got to be hard to sort of be like Switzerland and sort of try to be neutral, you know?

JOLIE: To be diplomatic? For me, yes.

COOPER: Yes. To be diplomatic.

JOLIE: I have a mouth on me sometimes, yes, I know.

(LAUGHTER)

JOLIE: It's very -- yes, it can be very -- but, again, it's one of those -- you do find that, I mean, well, honesty works. And you know that. You just -- you go to a place, and you might say, look, I don't know what I'm -- and you're very strongly against this bill. And you have got your very strong reasons, and let me just say mine.

And I have gotten in arguments with -- with people that it scared me, because they're just tough and smart and, you know, haven't -- but you do have that sense of...

COOPER: I think you can hold your own.

JOLIE: You just believe in something is right -- yes. But...

(LAUGHTER)

JOLIE: Yes.

COOPER: I have no doubt. I also read -- and I hope I'm not being too forward -- that the U.N. Declaration of Human Rights is very close to you, like, literally, you have a tattoo that...

JOLIE: No, you're right.

COOPER: ... refers to it.

JOLIE: Yes.

COOPER: Is that true?

JOLIE: Yes, I do.

COOPER: What does it say?

JOLIE: Know your rights.

COOPER: Know your rights.

JOLIE: Yes. It's on my back.

COOPER: It's on your back? Wow. Why -- why get that tattooed?

JOLIE: It's -- it's just something that I have always...

COOPER: Bono uses it in concert.

JOLIE: Oh, does he?

COOPER: But taking it the next step, the actual tattoo, yes.

(CROSSTALK)

JOLIE: ... a tattoo.

(CROSSTALK)

JOLIE: I know. It's really funny, because I have worn a low-cut shirt, or like just -- because it's kind of on the -- it's kind of under one, and I have accidentally worn it -- I wore it to a prison once when I was in -- it's very popular.

(LAUGHTER)

COOPER: Are you serious?

(LAUGHTER)

COOPER: Wow.

JOLIE: Yes.

COOPER: Yes.

(CROSSTALK) COOPER: That must have given them something...

JOLIE: It's very popular...

(CROSSTALK)

COOPER: ... something to talk about.

(LAUGHTER)

JOLIE: But it's -- it's -- it's just that. I think it's what comes down to everything for all these people, for refugees, for everybody. It's for them to know what their rights are, and then gives them the ability -- for children who are trafficked, for women who are vulnerable, for everybody.

If they know, if they understand -- you know, when I started to look at these declarations, whether it be the Declaration for Children, or just basic human rights, and you start to look at them, and you start to see, well, it's right here. This -- the Declaration of Human Rights says everybody has the right to an education, or everybody has the right to freedom of movement. Everybody has the right -- you know, that these things are in our law. There are -- there are -- if you really look into it, we're all protected somehow.

COOPER: The number of refugees has dropped 12 percent in the last year, to something like 8.4 million. But the number of internally displaced people inside their own country who have had to move from their homes has actually jumped like 22 percent. And a lot of that is because of Iraq, the population in Iraq.

I know you have been to -- to Jordan, to the region. Do you -- in your position, do you take a position on the war in Iraq?

JOLIE: It's really difficult when there's -- I think most people feel this -- when you have men and women that are over there, and they're fighting. And, so, it -- and we are in -- we're at war.

So, you know, it's -- it's done. It's -- we're there. You start to see -- the more times I have been to Washington, the more times you talk to somebody about, we have got to get money for AIDS orphans, or we have to get money for -- whether it be any kind of response to any tragedy, often, the answer is, well, we're at -- we are at war right now. A lot of money's going to war right now. We don't have -- so -- so, you start to look at it in a different way.

And, so, whether you're for or against the war, you can certainly see that the amount of money being spent at war and the amount of money we are not spending in countries and dealing with situations that could end up in conflict if left unassisted, and then cause war.

So, you know -- so, our priorities are quite strange. So, we're not -- we are missing a lot of opportunities to do a lot of the good that America is used to doing, has a history of doing. And we're not able to be as generous. We're not able to be on the forefront of all of these wonderful things as much. And, so, whether or not you're for or against the war, you have to start to notice that that -- that there's something wrong with that.

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COOPER: Well, coming up, Angelina Jolie's mission to help refugees and children in need has literally shaped her own family. Her path, next, to motherhood has run through Cambodia, Ethiopia, and now Namibia.

Coming up, for the first time, Jolie talks about giving birth in a small clinic in Africa and whether there are more adoptions in her future.

Also, the unspeakable brutality Angelina has witnessed with her own eyes.

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JOLIE: And the rapes in the Congo are so brutal. It doesn't make any sense. It's disgusting, and it's horrible. And it -- and it needs -- you start to wonder, with all of these things, you know, when -- when does it take us, as an international community, to just get together and say, that just has to stop? (INAUDIBLE) has to stop. And it has to stop now.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

COOPER: From young girls to grandmothers, women victimized while the world watches -- when this special edition of 360, "Angelina Jolie: Her Mission and Motherhood," continues.

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COOPER: You go repeatedly and you see this repeatedly. And that takes a toll. How do you get to a place where you can function in that environment?

JOLIE: It does, but I mean, you know this, it's that you get -- I am so inspired by these people. And they are the greatest strength. So it's not -- you have that memory, you have that moment, I've had it, even just today I was breastfeeding, tired, and thinking, God, I really don't know how I'm going to get myself together to be thinking for this interview.

But you think, Jesus, the things these people go through, I owe it to all of them to get myself together to stop whining about being tired and get there and get focused. Because God, it's the least I can do. With what they live with and what they can -- they pull themselves out of the most horrible despair.

And they're able to smile and get on with it and survive. So you don't -- it's that same thing, you don't think, poor me, what I've seen. You just think, Jesus, thank God I'm not experiencing it.

COOPER: Right. One of the things that really struck me in Niger this summer, was I was profiling kids in this hospital. And two of them ended up dying while I was there. They were very, very young children. And they were instantly buried. And there was no marker on their graves. I realized that the photos that I took of them, the video I took of them, was the only photos that exist of them. That their mother doesn't even have a picture of them.

And I understood there was a story that you had about a child I think you met in Sierra Leone who was 13, someone I think told me about just the anonymity of death, that children just sort of disappear. Do you carry these children who you've met with you?

JOLIE: Yeah, yeah. I think -- I mean, you could drive yourself -- you could just -- the child I met in Sierra Leone was the first child that I met who was about to die and who died the next day. And it was the first time, because it was the first place I had went to and it was the first time I saw a kid in that state, he was by himself.

And I still to this day, even though I know in the broader picture you can't save everybody to this day I feel I should have helicoptered him out and spent the money and done something and saved him. Even though I probably couldn't have. But I still have guilt about that and I still see his face, I always will.

And maybe it's the first kid that you feel connected to their death, or whatever it may be. But he'll always be symbolic to me of that. Of the bigger picture of all those kids.

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COOPER: Of course, it's hard to accept that any child could become a symbol of such suffering. But in truth, every day, children die. Just like the 13-year-old boy etched in Angelina's memory. Last August I was in Niger covering the hunger crisis there and met a young boy named Aminu. He died just days after we first met him and his mother Zuara (ph).

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COOPER (voice-over): In the tiny village of Raka (ph) the women have seen a lifetime of death. Now it's Zuara Yohia's (ph) turn to mourn. Yesterday her four-year-old son Aminu died. Today she has to go on.

(on camera): How will you remember Aminu?

(voice-over): "He was a kind child," she says, gentle, "a good boy."

We first met Zuara and Aminu a few days ago in the intensive care ward of a makeshift hospital set up by the relief group, Doctors Without Borders. Aminu was severely malnourished, his body badly infected. Even so, his death came as a shock.

When we first saw him, Aminu was covered with a blanket. Dr. Milton Tektonadis (ph) seemed optimistic he'd make it. There were other children in the ward who seemed in worse shape. Rashidu (ph) needed fluids. Habu was clinging to life.

If a child can drink milk, that's a very good sign, and Aminu could drink faster than most. The next morning when we returned, we were happy to see all three children had made it through the night. But happiness doesn't last long when children are starving.

(on camera): It's shocking how quickly things can change here. How in the blink of an eye, a child can simply vanish. When we came in this morning,, the three kids we met yesterday were doing OK. At least they'd made it through the night. They were still alive. Now it's the evening, several hours later, and things have changed. Aminu's OK, his mom's pretty confident. But Rashidu is in septic shock. And Habu, well, Habu died several hours ago. He was just 10 months old.

(voice-over): The next day Aminu's little body gave up as well. He died in the morning. He was just four years old. The day after we died we went to Aminu's village.

(on camera): Mothers with children who are starving often have to travel great distances just to get their kids the help they need. The village where Aminu lived is very remote. To find it we've had to drive an hour outside Murati (ph) but even then you can't make it by car. You have to cross this river on foot and walk the last quarter mile.

(voice-over): When we arrived Aminu's father was heading to the fields. Even in death, there's work to be done.

Zuara was surprised Aminu didn't make it but she's thankful for the doctors who tried to save him. "The doctors did their best for Aminu," she says. "They all did their best."

(on camera): Zuara was saying that her youngest child, Sani (ph), who's just two years old, doesn't really understand what's happened to his older brother. This morning she says he woke up and called out for Aminu.

(voice-over): Zuara says she worries now about how little food she has for Suni and her 10-year-old daughter Rashida (ph). Nearby, Aminu's great grandmother prepares a meal of leaves.

(on camera): When there's a shortage of food, adults here in Niger can survive by picking leaves off trees or eating grasses that they find in the bush. This is Aminu's great grandmother who's picked these leaves from nearby trees. She's going to boil those up and that's what she's going to eat today.

The problem is for children, like Aminu these leaves don't provide enough nutrition. That's why they get severely malnourished.

What happened to Aminu is horrible. But it's not all that surprising in Niger. Aminu's great grandmother has had 38 grandchildren, of them, half have died and 13 of her great grandchildren have died as well. (voice-over): Doctors have given Zuara some food that should last a few days. The harvest comes next month. It seems an awfully long time to wait.

Aminu was buried in an unmarked grave. He has no head stone, no marker. It's impossible to know which mound is his. There are 12 tiny graves here, each freshly dug. Twelve tiny lives come to an end. At the hospital where Aminu died his bed has already been filled. Another child, another mother, another struggle to live.

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COOPER (on camera): Something to keep in mind, this picture of Aminu is likely the only one that exists of him. In their hut, his parents have no photos, no mementos of their lost little boy.

Coming up, as Angelina Jolie's mission has grown, so has her own family. Two beautiful children through adoption. And now another daughter with Brad Pitt. Ahead, what giving birth in Africa was like.

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COOPER: Brad was in the operating room?

JOLIE: He was in the operating room, yeah. Yeah. And we had amazing doctors and everybody was so lovely. And you know, you're just -- because you're there for the birth, which I wasn't for my first two kids, you're just suddenly terrified they're not going to take a first breath.

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COOPER: Also ahead, Angelina Jolie and CNN's Christiane Amanpour on the crisis in Sudan. When refugees are forced to flee from the country they have fled to. Then where do they go? That's next on this special edition of 360, Angelina Jolie, her mission and motherhood.

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COOPER (voice-over): It should come as no surprise that when Angelina Jolie decided she wanted to be a mother, she'd approach it with the same humanitarian spirit that guides the rest of her life. Building a global village under her own roof.

JOLIE: It is truly where my heart is. It's where I've always seen the world. It's the most beautiful family I could think of for myself.

COOPER: In 2001, while on a break in production from her film "Lara Croft, Tomb Raider," she visit a Cambodian orphanage. Less than a year later while she was still married to her second husband, actor Billy Bob Thornton, she adopted a baby boy she saw there. She named him Maddox Chivan Jolie. When she and Thornton divorced in 2003, Angelina retained sole custody of Maddox. He quickly became a photographer's favorite.

Just two years later Angelina was ready to be a mother again. This time adopting a little girl from Ethiopia. She named her Zahara, Arabic for luminous. She also gave her the name Marley after the reggae singer Bob Marley.

JOLIE: She's from Ethiopia, she's an AIDS orphan.

COOPER: And now Angelina and her boyfriend Brad Pitt have a child of their own. Shiloh Nouvel Jolie-Pitt was born on May 27th. Shiloh is biblical translation meaning, the peaceful one. But the media sensation caused by the birth was anything but peaceful.

The place the Hollywood couple chose for Shiloh's birth showed once again Angelina's dedication for countries in need of support.

JOLIE: What are you going to do when the food runs out?

COOPER: She first visited Namibia when she filmed the movie "Beyond Borders." That she and Brad Pitt chose a clinic there to have their first child has the Namibian people overjoyed.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Now she can go to Americans and say she is Namibian, she is from Africa.

COOPER (on camera): Why Namibia?

JOLIE: Why Namibia?

COOPER: Yeah.

JOLIE: A few reasons. I love Africa. I love -- I wanted to just be in a part of the world that would be wonderful for my other children. I didn't want to spend just months holed up in a house here. And I wanted to have a beautiful time with my family. And my other daughter's African and I wanted to take her back.

COOPER: Your two children that are African now. That's great.

JOLIE: Also I think there was a part of me that people kept saying, it's horrible, you should never have a baby there, it can't be done, have it in Los Angeles, be safe. I think, there's so many people that don't have that option. Why and what is it? And I'm sure we can look into this and that doesn't seem right to me.

COOPER: It was at a little clinic?

JOLIE: It was a little clinic.

COOPER: What was it like actually giving birth? You had two children through adoption. What was it like?

JOLIE: We ended up having -- she was in breech so I ended up having a cesarean so it was very quick. And it was -- and ...

COOPER: Brad was in the operating room? JOLIE: He was in the operating room, yeah. Yeah. We had amazing doctors and everybody was so lovely. You're just -- because you're there for the birth, which I wasn't for my first two kids, you're just suddenly terrified they're not going to take a first breath. That was my whole focus. I just wanted to hear her cry. And I was sure everything would go wrong. The last minute I became the mother that was sure everything was going to go wrong.

And she's healthy and it was amazing. But I was also really relieved that I didn't feel differently. I was sure ...

COOPER: You mean between your biological child and adopted children?

JOLIE: Yeah, I was kind of prepared to defend my other children, I was prepared to give them extra love and attention because something was going to be different about this new one. So I was emotionally ready.

COOPER: How did Maddox respond?

JOLIE: Mad loves her. Because when Z came home, she was older. She was 7 months old. Mad, it's like having this tiny little pet that he can just hold and look at. He's great. Z's a little jealous. She's still a little girl, so.

COOPER: Do you want to adopt more kids?

JOLIE: Yeah. Yeah, next we'll adopt.

COOPER: Do you know -- really, next, that will be the next? You're actually planning it?

JOLIE: Yeah.

COOPER: Do you know where from?

JOLIE: No, no. We don't know which country. But we're looking at different countries. It's going to be the balance of what would be the best for Mad and FOR Z right now. Another boy, another girl, which country, which race would fit best with the kids.

COOPER: How do you make the decision, I'm going to adopt a child from Ethiopia, or is it just, I met this child and we had this connection?

JOLIE: I just -- I love -- I've always felt that my kids were around the world. I went to Cambodia and fell in love with the kids and the country. I knew -- I don't know. It's just -- I suppose it's like somebody realizing they're going to have a baby one day. It suddenly becomes very clear.

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COOPER: Sadly there are so many children around the world living in danger, in need of adoption. We'll have more of 360's exclusive interview with Angelina Jolie. More about her family. Plus we'll go live to Uganda to a refugee camp with 20,000 people right now sitting there, children struggling every day without a home, without a school, many without their parents.

And 360 M.D. Sanjay Gupta looks at the challenge of fighting disease in refugee camps. Places where a lack of clean water is often the least of their problems. All that and more as this special edition of 360, "Angelina Jolie, Her Mission and Motherhood" continues.

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COOPER: Angelina Jolie's ability to connect with individuals has helped us personalize a crisis that often defies comprehension. But if you want to see the magnitude of the problem, Uganda offers a case study. Years of civil strife there have brought senseless killings and so many rapes, thousands of children have been abducted and forced to take up arms by a ruthless rebel group called the Lord's Resistance Army.

All told, more than 1.5 million people are reportedly sheltered in refugee centers across northern Uganda. CNN's Jeff Koinange right now is at a refugee camp, Imvepi, population 20,000. Jeff, what time is it there? What's happening?

JEFF KOINANGE, CNN CORRESPONDENT: It's just a little after 5:50 in the morning, Anderson. And I'm standing right in front of one of the most important buildings here at the Imvepi Refugee Settlement. It's the food warehouse. And on World Refugee Day it was all about food distribution. The 20,000 or so Ugandans and Sudanese refugees in this camp got their fair share of sorghum courtesy of the United States government and pulses courtesy the European Union.

But this was also a day for people not to feel like refugees. Especially the children. A Canadian NGO called Right to Place organized games for the children, just to see them laugh again. They were playing games, laughing about just one day to be children. Out of 365 days.

And also the adults out there playing games, playing football, playing soccer, just not thinking about being refugees on this day. But again, at the end of the day we kept asking people what they wanted to do with their hives. No matter how long they've been at this camp, and some of them have been here 20 years, they kept saying, we want to go home.

COOPER: Jeff, briefly just explain what is going on that is causing all these refugees. This Lord's Resistance Army is brutal, they're kidnapping children. Why are they doing that?

KOINANGE: They've been doing it for the last 20-plus years. Led by a man by the name of Joseph Kony, a former altar boy who claimed he had a vision from God. His edict is he runs his rebel movement according to what he calls the Ten Commandments.

So what he does is he goes village after village, kidnapping children. Because in his view, the children are the most vulnerable. So what they do, they kidnap the children and literally brainwash them into killing machines. And they go back village after village, trying to kidnap more children, trying to intimidate the adults, trying to take over parts of northern Uganda.

The United Nations says over 30,000 children have been kidnapped in the last 20 years. Some of them have escaped. Some of them have been captured. Some of them have been tortured, killed, raped, brutalized.

And that's why they keep fleeing. At the same time Anderson, to give you a little geography lesson, an hour's drive northeast of here is the Congolese border. Another hour's drive east of here is the Sudanese border. Two countries that have seen their share of civil strife the last 20 years. So this part of Uganda sees its fair share of refugees streaming through here, an average of 50 every week.

COOPER: Angelina Jolie has visited both the Sudan and the Congolese border. We'll have reports about what she saw there coming up in this next hour of 360. Jeff Koinange thank you very much for reporting on that refugee camp right now.

Christiane Amanpour ahead will detail the human and logistical challenges of getting food to 6 million refugees in the Sudan. Plus Angelina's work on behalf of child refugees in the U.S. Victims of traffickers, kids caught in a legal limbo. When "Angelina Jolie, Her Mission and Motherhood Continues."

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COOPER: Welcome back.

In the next hour, Angelina Jolie talks about the children she's met in refugee camps around the world and how she feared her own adopted daughter might be HIV-positive.

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ANNOUNCER: The world she knew best was this, a world-famous Hollywood superstar -- tonight, the journey that would open her eyes and change her forever.

JOLIE: I was just shocked. I thought, how is that possible, that I have known nothing about this, and I'm 20-something years old, and there are this many people displaced in the world?

ANNOUNCER: Millions of people who cannot go home, some right here in the U.S., children.

JOLIE: I felt it was this crazy thing that we had all just missed somehow, that we couldn't possibly feel that that was right.

ANNOUNCER: A world-famous-actor-turned-crusader, and the most famous mom on the planet, building a family that spans the globe.

JOLIE: Because you're there for the birth, which I wasn't for my first two kids, you're just suddenly terrified that they're not going to take a first breath.

She's healthy. And it was amazing.

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ANNOUNCER: This is a special edition of ANDERSON COOPER 360: "Angelina Jolie: Her Mission and Motherhood."

From New York, here's Anderson Cooper.

COOPER: And good evening again to our viewers here in the United States and watching on CNN International in some 200 countries and territories around the world tonight.

We're dedicating the program tonight to the 15 million people around the world who cannot go home. They have fled wars and hunger, persecution and poverty, 15 million people without homes, some displaced even within their own countries, many without countries at all.

Tonight, how Angelina Jolie, the very picture of Hollywood glamour, has come to embrace their cause and devote so much of herself to it, how their lives have touched her, and how motherhood plays a part.

I sat down with Angelina Jolie in Los Angeles last week. She and Brad Pitt had only returned from Namibia four days earlier, where she had given birth to a healthy baby girl, Shiloh Nouvel Jolie-Pitt. We talked about the birth and also about the burden of seeing what she's seen in the places she goes, a burden, by the way, that she welcomes.

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COOPER: At a certain point, it's -- some people need to block it out. I mean, how do you -- you go repeatedly and you see this repeatedly. And that -- I mean, takes a toll. How do you get to a place where you can function in that environment?

JOLIE: It does, but, I mean -- and you know this -- it's that you get -- I am so inspired by these people. And they are the greatest strength.

So, it's not -- you have that memory. You have that moment -- I have had it -- where, even just today, I was, you know, breast- feeding, and tired, and thinking, God, I really don't know how I'm going to get myself together to be thinking for this interview.

But you think, Jesus, the things these people go through. I owe it to all of them to get myself together, to stop whining about being tired, and get there and get focused, and, because God, it's the least I can do, with what they live with and what they can -- you know, they pull themselves out of the most horrible despair. And they're able to smile and get on with it and survive. And, so, you don't -- it's that same thing. You don't -- you don't think, poor me, what I have seen. You just think, like, Jesus, thank God I -- I'm not experiencing it.

COOPER: Right.

The first time you went to a refugee camp, what was that like?

JOLIE: God, it was -- it was Sierra Leone. So, it was a different kind of a camp. It was -- they were still having civil war. And it was kind of just this area of people who had been -- who had had their limbs cut off from the violence. And it was an amputee camp. And it was probably to this day the worst camp I have ever seen.

And I knew I was changing as a person. I was learning so much about life. And I was -- so, in some ways, it was the best moment of my life, because it...

COOPER: Right.

JOLIE: ... changed me for the better. And I was never going to be never going to be -- going to want for more in my life or be...

(CROSSTALK)

COOPER: I mean, how did it change you?

JOLIE: I was very focused on myself, on my career, on my life, on this -- you know, we have so much and we want for other things, and we don't realize how grateful we should be about things. I had been -- done things, you know, like most teenagers, hurting myself, or doing things...

COOPER: Right.

JOLIE: I mean, all those things. You take your own life for granted.

And then, suddenly, you see these people who are really fighting something, who are really surviving, who have so much pain and loss and things that you have no idea.

And, as soon as I got to a phone, I called my mom and just told her how much I loved her. And I was so grateful I knew where she was and so grateful I knew where my brother was, that -- that it just changed everything.

COOPER: Right.

And, then, how do you come back? I mean, it's got to be -- it's always -- I have found it always a hard thing, once you're there and you see that, and your eyes are open and your heart is open and your mind is open. And then you come back, and especially in this world that you live in, it's got to be such a strange -- it's got to be surreal.

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JOLIE: By the time I -- I got on the plane and on the way home, I -- I didn't -- I knew that I would somehow commit to doing something with these people in my life. And I knew that would be the only way to -- to settle it in myself.

COOPER: And why refugees? Of all the things -- I mean, there are so many causes around the world. There are so many problems. Why is it -- you're -- you're focusing on a problem which is almost intractable. I mean, there have always been refugees, internally displaced people. There almost, likely, will always be.

JOLIE: One, I went to Cambodia, and I learned a lot about the situation there and the refugees there.

But I got this book on the U.N., because I really liked the idea of the U.N. I know it's not perfect.

(LAUGHTER)

JOLIE: But loved what -- what it stood for.

And, so, I got a book on the U.N. And I was reading about it. And then I got to this chapter on refugees. And it said almost 20 million people are displaced. And it showed pictures of Rwanda and pictures of all these -- and I was kind of -- and I was just shocked.

I thought, how is that possible, that I have known nothing about this, and I'm 20-something years old, and there are this many people displaced in the world?

So, I knew it was something that had to be discussed, and wasn't being discussed. And, then, the more I read about it, the more I just thought, they really are the most vulnerable people in the world. They really don't have an option for -- it's not just that they're poor. It's not just that they're hungry. It's not just that -- it's that they are in fear of -- of -- for their lives. They are going to be persecuted for their race, their religion, their nationality.

They -- they don't have the protection of their own country. They're somewhere uprooted, without any protection, with their families, relying on somebody to open their doors for someplace for them to lay their head down or get some food or something.

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JOLIE: And they may not be able to return home for decades.

COOPER: And it's totally out of their control.

I mean, I have always found that when you -- it's almost that term, refugees. You kind of make assumptions about who they are. But, in fact, they -- I mean, they are everyone. We all could be refugees at one point or another in our lives. And, all of a sudden, to have that lack of control, I always just find such a -- a sad thing.

JOLIE: Yes.

And I think that happened with the Balkans. I think a lot of people suddenly saw refugees that looked like them. And it was a different thing. It was a -- it was a new thing.

COOPER: Do you go through phases?

I mean, when I first went to Somalia in the early '90s during the famine, I remember being overwhelmed. And then I felt like I was going through phases, the more wars I would go to, of anger, and then confusion...

JOLIE: Yes.

COOPER: ... and then outrage, and then sort of resignation, then sort of an open feeling that allows me to continue doing it. But do...

JOLIE: Yes.

COOPER: Do you go through those phases?

JOLIE: I did. Yes. I don't know which phase I'm in now.

(LAUGHTER)

JOLIE: But I did. I went through -- I went through a definite phase of being, I think, just shocked at first. And then I wanted to save the world.

(LAUGHTER)

(CROSSTALK)

JOLIE: And I was sure I could save the world.

COOPER: Mmm-hmm.

JOLIE: And then I was -- and then I did feel helpless and just angry.

COOPER: A doctor in Niger said to me who was with this group Doctors Without Borders, which I'm a big fan of, said, you know, he -- he tells the nurses not to cry in front of the mothers. He said, that's not your job, that you're -- you know, if you want to cry, go cry somewhere in a corner, but don't -- you can't do it in front of the mothers, because it's not fair to them, because then they will worry about, what's going to happen to my kid, which I just found -- I don't know. It's always sort of stayed with me.

JOLIE: Yes.

I kept a journal for the -- I still do when I go into the field. And I think part of it was just me being able to do this and not -- and not look at the...

(CROSSTALK)

COOPER: Yes. It helps.

(CROSSTALK)

JOLIE: Not cry. Yes.

(LAUGHTER)

COOPER: It makes it easier sometimes.

JOLIE: I'm working.

(LAUGHTER)

COOPER: Yes. Believe me, I know that feeling.

I also read the statistic, which I know you know, is that -- that a child is orphaned every 14 seconds, which is just, again, it just -- it's hard to wrap your mind around, you know?

JOLIE: Yes. No, it's -- it's unbelievable.

And -- and that's another thing that they have been -- we have been recently fighting for, you know, all the AIDS orphans and all the kids that are out there, because...

COOPER:

You -- you were very supportive of a bill that -- actually passed and got signed by the president...

JOLIE: Yes.

COOPER: ... but then wasn't funded for a long time.

JOLIE: Yes. It was...

COOPER: Is -- has it been funded?

JOLIE: It was one of my first lessons in Washington. It was like, oh, a bill. I'm pushing for a bill.

(LAUGHTER)

JOLIE: The bill passed. Success. And then somebody said, and now the funding. And I thought, and now the funding? I thought was that was the whole...

COOPER: And it's still not funded.

JOLIE: But you realize that, no, that that's -- you know, first, they -- they make it a priority to do it. And then -- and I -- I don't -- I don't -- you know, there are a lot of people that are going to come together.

And I will spend more time in Washington, try to raise this funding, and hope that the funding doesn't come from somewhere else.

(END VIDEOTAPE) COOPER: Well, there are battles won in her fight. But, frankly, there are some battles where political differences or ethnic and religious grievances are so entrenched, or international influences so weak or unwilling, that the effort seems almost unwinnable.

One such example is Darfur, in western Sudan, where the slaughter of Africans by Muslim militias, the janjaweed, they're called, has created one of the worst refugee catastrophes on the planet today. And it's happening right now.

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COOPER: Sudan, you have been there. What is that like?

JOLIE: You know, it's a really difficult situation. It's one of those situations -- I know you were in Rwanda. You know, it's -- you -- you're in a situation where you know -- it's frustrating for me now.

I hear people talking about Darfur on the news now. And they're talking about, what are we going to do? And they're starting to discuss solutions. And you're starting -- the solutions that you heard field officers begging to be addressed three years ago, you know?

And -- and you just, God, feel -- feel like, you know, how -- how many times are we going to let these things go on this long? Or when are we going to finally be united internationally to be able to handle these things immediately and...

(CROSSTALK)

COOPER: It's interesting, because, in Rwanda, the U.S. government never -- wouldn't call it a genocide. But -- but they have. This administration has called what's happened in Sudan a genocide. And, yet, it continues.

JOLIE: And, then, you think they were going to lead the -- the charge, kind of, and it -- but then they didn't.

And, so, it -- you know, and -- and my feelings -- people have said, why hasn't -- hasn't the U.N. called it a genocide or what -- and part of me just, at the end of the day, feels, well, I don't understand why we have to call it one thing or another. If it's a gross human rights violation, and people are dying, does -- does it have to have a name that's, you know, for us to act?

So, it shouldn't matter if this person's calling it or this person isn't. We shouldn't even be arguing about that. We all know something needs to be addressed.

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COOPER: Well, U.N. troops are there, but it's not enough to stop the killing and rape in Darfur. It's hard to imagine, hard enough to get really humanitarian supplies into the region. As you will hear one aid worker say, it's like squeezing a watermelon through a keyhole. Fortunately, they keep trying.

Reporting for us tonight, CNN's Christiane Amanpour.

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CHRISTIANE AMANPOUR, CNN CHIEF INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): A little boy waits, as though expecting manna from heaven, which is what this might just as well be, sacks of Sudanese sorghum, U.S. wheat, Canadian split peas and pulses falling from the sky and providing the villagers of Habila their first food aid in three months.

The U.N. World Food Program was bringing in aid by air until October last year, a drop in the desert, but a much-needed one.

PETER SMERDON, U.N. WORLD FOOD PROGRAM: Getting food into west Darfur is trying to squeeze a watermelon through a keyhole, because the infrastructure is so small. The airport is small. It's difficult to get food in there, especially during the rainy season.

AMANPOUR: This year, the U.N. managed to preposition food in these remote locations, so they don't plan any more airdrops, which are, in any case, a costly last resort -- but, from the air, evidence of a war that, three years on, is just getting worse, straw roofs burned off huts, millions of people turned into refugees, and frantic efforts by the U.N. to reach those in Darfur who are cut off from food supplies.

Across Sudan, more than six million people depend on outside aid. International relief workers are trying to save lives in a desperate battle against malnutrition.

Today, the U.N. warns a food and hunger disaster stalks the refugee camps in Darfur, because the world is falling short on its funding. It's come up with only half the money needed, so the World Food Program has had to make what it calls one of the hardest decisions ever, to cut desperately needed food rations in half.

Meantime, the violence continues, as it has done for the past three years.

(on camera): The U.N. is accusing the Sudanese government of resuming raids against rebels in Darfur. And it also says that displaced villagers like these are still being attacked by janjaweed militia.

(voice-over): In fact, most people tell us they won't go back home until there is proper security.

In the meantime, this is their fate, a desperate rush to retrieve whatever aid comes their way. And each family treasures the strict rations that are carefully doled out. After all, they don't know when they will get their next delivery.

Christiane Amanpour, CNN, Habila, western Darfur.

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COOPER: And that's how simple it is. When the donations don't get there, the food aid gets cut.

Of course, Darfur is not the only place where refugees suffer. Believe it or not, some are hurting here in the U.S. Angelina Jolie has worked to give children caught in a legal limbo here in America a chance of hope. She talks about that coming up.

And we will head back to Africa, to Congo, where the brutality women and children are facing right now as we speak is unimaginable. Angelina tells us what she has seen there with her own eyes.

And we also talked about her new life with a newborn baby -- when this special edition of 360 continues, "Angelina Jolie: Her Mission and Motherhood."

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COOPER (voice-over): Ethiopia has been out of the headlines since the famine of the early 1980s. A drought in 1981 wiped out the harvest. And, by 1985, nearly one million Ethiopians had died of starvation.

Live Aid raised more than $60 million. But, today, AIDS is killing the people of Ethiopia; 1.5 million there, almost 5 percent of the adult population, are HIV-positive. At least one million children are already orphans, because their parents have died of AIDS. In 2005, Angelina Jolie adopted an AIDS orphan, a little girl named Zahara, who's now 16 months old.

JOLIE: There was a fear that she had HIV. And -- and the upsetting thing was that I was sat down and it was explained to me that -- that, don't worry, because, in this country, it's not a death sentence.

COOPER: Zahara tested negative. She was lucky. Back in Ethiopia, few have access to medicine that would keep them alive. More than 100,000 Ethiopians die from the disease each year.

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COOPER: Well, unfortunately, the story of Ethiopia is not unique. The U.N. estimates that more than 24 million people are living with HIV in sub-Saharan Africa alone.

Angelina Jolie has seen firsthand a lot of the suffering from HIV, as well as other afflictions, as she travels around the world, visiting refugee camps. Not all of her work, however, is in faraway places. As she's learned, there are refugees here in the United States, unaccompanied minors, who remain just as invisible as some of those refugees in Africa.

(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE) COOPER: A lot of the problems which often seem like they're far away, but you have also been focusing a lot on problems right here in the United States of -- of children who are coming into America unaccompanied, unaccompanied minors, and -- and basically find themselves in the legal system without representation.

JOLIE: Yes. They have none here.

And, a few years ago, they -- they would -- they would end up in more of a jail-like situation as well, which now things have been transferred to the Office of Refugee Resettlement. And it's become better. They're -- it's more like a foster care house for these kids. But that's just been in the last few years that's changed. That was the first step.

And now the thing that is that they don't have any legal representation. So, basically, you have got a kid that was maybe, you know, a Chinese kid or -- that was trafficked, had things happen to her sexually. Maybe even a boy, things happened to him sexually. He doesn't speak English. And he's supposed to represent himself in court and talk about those things.

And he's got no assistance to be able to -- to do that. And that's just -- when I learned about that, I just felt that that was un-American. I felt it wasn't just. I felt it was this crazy thing that we had all just missed somehow, that we couldn't possibly feel that that was right. We just somehow missed this in our justice system.

We have got to get these kids some kind of legal assistance or representation, so we can hear...

COOPER: I think a lot of people would be surprised to know that that even happens here, that...

JOLIE: Yes.

COOPER: ... that a kid can go through that system without legal representation.

JOLIE: Yes.

And we are not saying -- I'm not saying, you know, let all these kids in; trust them all.

You know, it's -- it's not about that. It's about, you have to -- you have to listen to them. You have to hear what they're saying, and then make a decision as to whether or not you should send them back to a situation that could be very, very dangerous for them.

And, so, many of them, because of the way the courts -- they're in there for years.

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COOPER: Well, Angelina Jolie learned about these children here in the U.S. the same way she's learned about other refugees. She visited them herself. The children she met were waiting in limbo in Arizona.

CNN's Rick Sanchez visited the same shelter. And here's what he found.

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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I would like to take...

UNIDENTIFIED IMMIGRANTS: I would like to take...

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: ... a week off.,

UNIDENTIFIED IMMIGRANTS: ... a week off.

RICK SANCHEZ, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): It's a strange irony. These children are learning English, but most will soon be deported. They're some of the 6,000 immigrant or refugee children humanitarian officials say are caught each year trying to cross the U.S. border all alone, and have no legal guardians to speak for them.

What little English they learn, they will hardly get to practice. Their average stay here at the Southwest Key shelter in Phoenix is about seven weeks, just long enough to get through immigration removal proceedings that could send them packing back to their countries.

SANCHEZ (on camera): Are you guys happy here? (SPEAKING SPANISH)

UNIDENTIFIED IMMIGRANTS: Yes.

SANCHEZ: If you could stay here? (SPEAKING SPANISH)

UNIDENTIFIED IMMIGRANTS: Si.

SANCHEZ: Si?

SANCHEZ (voice-over): In cramped offices, social workers struggle to find loopholes in the law, like family members living in the United States who will sponsor the children.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: OK. (SPEAKING SPANISH)

SANCHEZ: But even a sponsorship doesn't guarantee them a green card.

Take the case of 15-year-old Juana (ph) and 13-year-old Pepe (ph). Beating me at foosball is far easier than beating the Arizona desert. That's where they spent eight days recently on a journey to reach their parents in Boston, until they were apprehended, that is, by Border Patrol agents.

The cactus scars on her legs illustrate the difficulty of the journey.

(on camera): When was the last time you saw your mom and dad?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: (SPEAKING SPANISH)

SANCHEZ: (SPEAKING SPANISH) Seven years ago?

(voice-over): The cruel reality is that, even if Juana (ph) and Pepe (ph) reunite with their parents, they will likely still be deported. That's because their parents have work permits, but are not legal residents.

What Angelina Jolie, along with the National Center For Refugee and Immigrant Children, have fought for is a chance to provide Juana (ph), Pepe (ph), and others like them a fighting chance, with free legal representation to help them stay in the U.S.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: And they're seeking assistance, or they're fleeing violence or conflict. It's often very difficult for them to explain their circumstances. There's a lot of fear.

SANCHEZ: Alone and with no English, the children would be lost in the complex maze of immigration court proceedings. Fourteen-year- old Pedro (ph) is getting help from a lawyer for his deportation hearing.

But his chances are not good. His only relative in the U.S. is his brother.

(on camera): Will he come get you?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: (SPEAKING SPANISH)

SANCHEZ: He doesn't -- he's not legal. He doesn't have his papers. He's undocumented. (SPEAKING SPANISH) So, he can't come and get you.

(voice-over): Lawyers will argue Pedro (ph) is abandoned, has no one to turn to, even in his homeland of Guatemala, and should therefore be granted a humanitarian exception. It's a long shot, as it is for many of the almost 100 lost and lonely children who reside at this Arizona shelter. They live in an open setting that gives no appearance of a detention center. They're offered a soccer field, a public swimming pool, a full day of schooling, medical facilities.

They may not get to stay in the United States, but, while they're here, they're protected, treated with dignity, and given a fighting legal chance.

Rick Sanchez, CNN, Phoenix.

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COOPER: Coming up: Angelina Jolie's greatest anguish and anger, cruelty towards kids, the brutality that she has seen with her own eyes -- also, the youngest victimized in the Congo by the unthinkable, the unimaginable -- when this special edition of 360, "Angelina Jolie: Her Mission and Motherhood," continues. (COMMERCIAL BREAK)

(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE, 1994)

COOPER (voice-over): On empty roads, children and parents, refugees, carried what they could, homes and loved ones left behind.

(on camera): Well, these officials say that this may be one of the largest mass movements of people in history. The fear is that, if the camp isn't organized soon enough, disease could spread among the refugees.

(voice-over): There are no toilets. Human waste mixes with drinking water. Relief workers struggle to catch up, little food, no clean water, no shelter.

(on camera): People fled with whatever possessions they could bring. For some people, it was their cattle, for others, a bicycle.

(voice-over): At Gihini (ph) Hospital, about 100 survivors of the carnage find refuge.

(on camera): Those who are still in Rwanda and still alive often are malnourished or injured. These kids over here are severely malnourished.

And in this room over here is kids who have been hit by machetes.

(voice-over): The children's ward is crowded with members of the Tutsi minority, victims of attacking Hutus. They cut fingers from a child too young to walk.

(END VIDEOTAPE)

COOPER: That was me reporting back in 1994 in the genocide in Rwanda for Channel One News.

Last year, more than 100,000 Rwandans were refugees. They're just a fraction of the 15 million refugees and internally displaced persons worldwide. And what strikes you when you visit a refugee camp is the -- the will to survive.

The people who, you know, by all rights should be hopeless and wake up without hope, they try to wake up every day determined to live, determined to -- to get home and find a new life, and create a life for their families.

That's where my exclusive interview with Angelina Jolie picks up.

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JOLIE: You hear so much about the famine. You hear so much about the wars and how much it's being broken down. And, then, you go to a place like Congo, and you expect it to just be barren and empty and soulless.

COOPER: Right.

JOLIE: And you see it's -- that the Congo is bigger than any war that's ever hit the Congo.

COOPER: Right.

JOLIE: The Congo is lush, and it's amazing, and...

COOPER: It's throbbing with life.

JOLIE: All the people, and they're so different. And they're -- and they're passionate. And they're tough. And they're -- and they're vibrant. And they're -- and they're ready to -- to live.

And -- and the Congo itself is just magnificent.

COOPER: Yes.

JOLIE: So, you see that and you realize, you know, that it -- that it does have -- there is that hope. You suddenly get kind of inspired that, God, it just hasn't even taken a piece out of it, you know, even though it's such -- it's been going on how many years?

COOPER: Yes, I mean, since the late '90s. I mean, more than three million people have died. A thousand, they say, die a day from war-related conditions, malnutrition, so often, women and children who are the ones bearing the brunt of all this.

I mean, in the Congo, it's women being raped, tens of thousands of women. And I mean, I read that you saw children who had been macheted. What is that like, to see that? To see that being done to kids?

JOLIE: I just wonder how do you -- how could you possibly explain that? It's like being in Sierra Leone, and seeing -- I saw a 3-year-old who had her arms cut off. And you just think, what kind of a human being? You try to imagine, it must be drugs, it must be -- but what kind of a person could do that?

And the rapes in the Congo are so brutal. For the people that don't know about it, there's so much -- and even that we recently had a baby in Africa, and people talking about the surgeries and the different types of surgeries. But they talk so much about Congo and having to sew the kids back together. Because they've been just ripped completely open.

And you know, that's -- how do you make sense of any of that? It doesn't make any sense. It's disgusting and it's horrible. It needs -- you start to wonder, with all of these things, you know, when does it take us as an international community to just get together and say, OK, that just has to stop? Joseph Kony has to stop. You know, how long does it take for us to start to enforce an international law on these kind of situations and deal with it immediately?

Because that's what you start to just get angry about. You can get angry about the situation in one country or the people doing it. But then there's that broader picture of, we need to do something stronger.

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COOPER: Well, it's easy to feel that way once you've been to a place like the Congo and seen the unimaginable. Brutality so horrific that, well, it's unthinkable.

While the civil wars ended in Congo, the violence there continues and so does the struggle to heal.

CNN's Jeff Koinange reports.

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KOINANGE (voice-over): They have nothing to sing about, and yet, they sing. They sing to comfort each other and to find strength. These mothers and daughters, grandmothers and granddaughters all say they've been raped again and again by men in uniform.

The incidents are not isolated incidents, the violence widespread. To survive, women and children flee their homes.

21-year-old Sinsi (ph) says was attacked by 15 men wearing uniforms of the Congolese army. She says they raped her for eight days and eight nights. She was brought here on a stretcher. Now she needs a cane to walk.

They can take away my womanhood, she says, but they will never be able to break my spirit.

The stories get worse. 28-year-old Henriette Miurta (ph) says she was gang raped three years ago. Her husband and four children, forced to watch.

The soldiers then hacked to death her husband, she says, and continued raping her and her two oldest daughters, ages 10 and 8, an ordeal that went on for three days.

I wish they could have killed me right there with my husband, she says. What use am I now? Why did those animals leave me to suffer like this?

Insigria (ph) tells us soldiers used her as a sex slave for more than a month. She bore a child as a result. At the age of 19, she's struggling to keep her maternal instincts alive.

I sometimes feel like killing myself and my daughter, she says. I look at her and all I see is hate. I look at myself, and all I see is misery. Sometimes I wish I were dead.

Officials say there were more than 4,000 rape cases reported this past year in this one province of the eastern Congo alone.

An average of 12 women arrive here at this rehab center for treatment each day. So who's doing it and why? As part of the peace deal that ended the civil war here nearly three years ago, the country's various militias were welcomed into the army. Men in uniform who can now rape with impunity.

Dr. Dennis (inaudible) is the only physician at this hospital that specializes in the treatment of rape victims. He says he performs about six complex operations a day to repair damaged tissue in cases of mutilation. And even when he successfully treats their wounds, he wonders can their spirits ever truly heal. In his 23 years practicing in this region, he says he's never seen such brutality.

When we hear stories of how some of them have knives thrust into them after being raped, he says, and some suffer gunshot wounds after a pistol is fired between their legs, it's the cruelest and most barbaric thing I have ever seen.

The doctor takes us to one of several wards filled with victims of sexual violence, colostomy bags hanging below their beds. The more frightening scenario, the chance they could be HIV positive, a medical finding that could cause them to be rejected by family members after they leave the hospital.

He tells us that 19-year-old Helene Wamunzela (ph) first came here when she was 14, after being raped for days. She was treated and eventually released. Six years later, she's back after another gang rape ordeal. This time, horribly disfigured. He says he's not sure she'll be able to fully recover physically.

It's unimaginable that she could go through such pain, he says. It's simply unforgivable.

Aid money designated by international charitable organizations for victims of sexual violence is always scarce and may soon be running out.

It's so tragic that the world can afford to sit back and let these things happen says Marie Waltazon (ph) of the Swedish Pentecostal Mission. Is it because they are poor and voiceless Africans? The women of Congo deserve better. Here in the democratic republic of Congo it's easy to find the victims mutilated, raped, without homes.

But Amnesty International and private donors say there seems to be no effort to find the rapists. And so, the women of this country must try to heal without justice. It makes the words of their song all the more powerful, we will never be broken, they sing. We will never be broken.

Jeff Koinange, CNN, Bukavu in eastern Congo.

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COOPER: It is hard to imagine, but you have seen it with your even eyes. Coming up, more of my conversation with Angelina Jolie. We talked about stunning facts and numbers. Imagine a society where one out of four children die before reaching the age of 5. A reality that she and many others are fighting to change.

And 360 M.D. Sanjay Gupta, on the challenge of providing health care to refugees created by natural and manmade disasters when the special edition of 360 continues, "Angelina Jolie: Her Mission and Motherhood."

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COOPER: Angelina Jolie was filming the hit "Lara Croft Tomb Raider" in Cambodia in 2001 when she first became aware of the desperate poverty in that country.

Cambodia's history is one of violence, genocide, and war. It's taken its toll. Cambodia is one of the poorest countries in Asia. About half the children are malnourished, and one out of every eight kids dies before the age of 5.

This is where Angelina Jolie and Brad Pitt's son, Maddox, was born. He was 7 months old when he was adopted. Too young to remember the poverty, too young to truly understand the impact he's had on his mother's life.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

JOLIE: He's just such a pure reminder of everything that really is important in life. And he's -- children are just wonderful. They're just so honest and they're so loving and they're so -- and I want a better world for him. So I'm kind of focused on things that maybe I wasn't before. And I'm more patient. All those things. He's brought out a really -- he's made me a woman. And I've become more nurturing.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

COOPER: Well, no one can deny that Angelina's sense of nurturing has developed over the years. It benefits her adopted children certainly, and now Shiloh, the child she conceived with Brad Pitt. As well as the countless desperate children who she'll never see, but who she says are always on her mind.

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COOPER: One in four children in Niger dies before the age 5, which to me, I still cannot wrap my mind around. It's hard -- I always try to figure out, how do you make that real for people here? You know, how do you make that a reality? Is it something you have figured out a way to make real for people?

JOLIE: No. I don't think so. I mean, I'd like to -- I certainly know with my children, maybe -- I mean, people -- a lot of people ask me about my daughter Zahara who is an AIDS orphan, and she -- because we couldn't hide her from the press. People knew how sick she was when she came home. And so maybe in some way, she's been hopefully a positive example of what just basic care and food can do to a child.

COOPER: Her mother died of AIDS?

JOLIE: Her mother died of AIDS, yes.

COOPER: Did you -- I read that you thought -- you didn't know if she was HIV positive or not when you got her?

JOLIE: No, we didn't. We didn't. And it was a good -- it was a strong realization. We brought her in and they thought maybe she did, that it was something you can deal with now. And you know, that you shouldn't be scared of having a child with AIDS or having a friend or husband or, you know, obviously there's new treatments and there's new -- you can take it on, which was nice to know when we got to the hospital, it wasn't...

COOPER: And you made that decision...

JOLIE: ... it wasn't going to be a death sentence for her, it was going to be something that was a difficult life, but we could...

COOPER: So even if she had been HIV positive, you would have adopted her?

JOLIE: Yes. But because of the other children, just because it would have been so -- it's a life-changing decision, to adopt a child with that. And so to be honest, it was a relief when she wasn't.

COOPER: Do you feel like at times, man, I wish I could take 10 kids from here?

JOLIE: Yes. You do. And you feel guilty. I felt guilty with her. Because she was sick and because you had that -- I have that thought of -- because when they got there, they said you could adopt her, but you could also adopt this other child who had just shown up. And we adopted her. But, you know, we don't know exactly if that other child is one of the ones who passed away. And you have that feeling of, oh, if I took two out.

But you know, again, you can drive yourself crazy with those kind of thoughts. You just have to...

COOPER: Do what you can.

JOLIE: Do what you can.

COOPER: Do you think about what her life, what Maddox's life must have -- would have been like, had you not found each other?

JOLIE: Yes. Well, she had -- she, the other kids in the orphanage, a few of them, because we found out she had salmonella poisoning and a few of the kids in the same orphanage passed away while she was in the hospital. And they would have been the same size, but she got to the hospital in time. And my son, he's in a country where they traffic the children and they have them beg in the streets and they just collect all these street kids.

COOPER: From Cambodia?

JOLIE: From Cambodia. So, there's a high chance that that would have been him.

COOPER: How do you make the decision, I'm going to adopt a child from Ethiopia? Or is it just, I met this child and we have this connection?

JOLIE: I just -- I love -- I've always felt that my kids are around the world and I love -- I went to Cambodia and I fell in love with the kids and the country. And I knew -- I don't know. It's just -- I suppose it's like somebody realizing they're going to have a baby one day. It suddenly becomes very clear.

And I loved Ethiopia, Brad loved Ethiopia, we'd both been individually. And so it just felt like a natural place to adopt.

COOPER: What was the like actually giving birth? I mean, you had two children through adoption. What was it like?

JOLIE: Well, we ended up having -- she was in breech. So I ended up having a cesarean. So it was very quick. It was -- and...

COOPER: Brad was in the operating room?

JOLIE: He was in the operating room, yes. Yes. And we had amazing doctors and everybody was so lovely. And you know, you're just -- because you're there for the birth, which I wasn't for my first two kids, you're just suddenly terrified they're not going to take a first breath. That was my whole focus. I just wanted to hear her cry. I was sure everything would go -- at the last minute I became the mother that was sure everything was going to go wrong. And she's healthy and it was amazing.

But I was also really relieved I didn't feel differently. I was sure...

COOPER: Oh really? You mean between your biological child and adopted children?

JOLIE: Yes. I was kind of prepared to defend my other children. I was prepared to kind of give them extra love and attention because something was going to be different about this new one.

COOPER: How did Maddox respond? Did he like...

JOLIE: Mad loves her. Mad -- well, because when Z came home, she was already older. She was 7 months old. So Mad, it's like having this tiny little pet that he can just like hold and look at. He's great. Z's a little jealous because she's still a little girl.

COOPER: Do you want to adopt more kids?

JOLIE: Yes. Yes. Next we'll adopt.

COOPER: Do you know -- really, next? That will be the next? You're actually planning it?

JOLIE: Yes.

COOPER: Wow. Do you know where from?

JOLIE: No, no, we don't know which country, but we're looking at different countries. And we're just -- it's going to be the balance of what would be the best for Mad and for Z right now. If, you know, another boy, another girl, which country, which race would fit best with the kids.

(END VIDEOTAPE)

COOPER: Coming up, a medical crisis in the making. Unfolding around the world after a disaster strikes. 360 M.D. Sanjay Gupta investigates.

And later, what you can do to help. We'll break down the information you need that can save lives around the world and here at home, when this special edition of 360 continues.

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COOPER: Well, those countries are just a fraction of the more than 160 nations where 15 million displaced people come from. Many get by without even the most basic health care, a problem that's really getting worse by the day.

Angelina Jolie says that stopping it can be simple. She came to the realization, she says, when she was about to give birth.

(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)

COOPER: You released a statement with Brad Pitt after you had Shiloh in Namibia and you said, while we celebrate the joy of the birth of our daughter, we recognize that 2 million babies born every year in the developing world die in the first day of their lives. These children can be saved, but only if governments around the world make it a priority. What do you think can be done?

JOLIE: Well, we were in -- when we were in Namibia, there's a local little clinic which we ended up having the baby in. What we learned and what I learned in being there is -- we did bring a doctor just in case. And he ended up working with the local people and they were great. But he went to the state hospital. And this is back to the point of what can be done and what governments can do.

We said we wanted to make a donation, could you go to the state hospital and see, as a doctor, what it is that they're missing, what it is that they're -- and he came back and said they have no ultrasound. They have no -- even the -- the things to listen to the baby's heart. There's a machine, you can listen to the baby's heart and the mom's heart at the same time. And they were just using this little piece of like, I don't know what it was, wood or something, to listen.

And you realize, my God, you know, for $100,000, maybe $150,000, you could get the equipment that could save lives immediately. And it's so simple. Because you're just present and you ask and you know what somebody's missing.

And it's -- you know, one of the hospitals had some equipment, but they didn't have the money to buy the paper. But somebody donated the equipment.

So it was, what, $1,000 to buy paper for 10 years and supply them with what they need, and they just needed the paper.

COOPER: And that's how change happens. Change happens by individuals just...

JOLIE: Just talking to them and figuring out what they need, and instead of just saying, that's a huge, horrible statistic that this many people die.

There are also some very simple solutions if you just ask and go hands-on. It's not that hard.

(END VIDEOTAPE)

COOPER: Well, for Angelina Jolie and Brad Pitt, the solution was that simple. After giving birth to Shiloh, she and Mr. Pitt donated $300,000 to two state-run hospitals in Namibia so they could buy those ultrasound machines and the kind of medical equipment that, well, frankly, most of us here take for granted. It is that kind of aid that saves lives.

But when disaster strikes, keeping refugees alive is often a race against time. No matter how fast the aid pours in.

360 M.D. Dr. Sanjay Gupta experienced it firsthand last year.

(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)

DR. SANJAY GUPTA, CNN SENIOR MEDICAL CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Sri Lanka, January 2005. Just days after the tsunami washed away entire villages.

(On camera): The rising death toll shows no signs of slowing down.

(Voice-over): All but non-existent sanitation, a crippled public health system, a drastic shortage of medications all threatened to claim thousands of more lives.

8-year-old Doneth Dishwala (ph) survives. An instant refugee. Just a boy with no way to truly understand just how bad his life had just become. Along with hundreds of other displaced kids, a school. Now the last, best shelter. I've seen it time and time again. Refugees, internally displaced people. Tens of thousands converging at once. Camps forming overnight out of desperation, usually after some unimaginable atrocity. They remind us what it means to lose everything -- home, livelihood, family. Often with no food, no water, no shelter, and some say, no hope.

Even if you survive the initial calamity, you still have an even greater chance of dying because of deadly disease.

(On camera): We've just landed at one of the worst-hit areas in the Pakistan earthquake.

(Voice-over): This is a remote region of northern Pakistan after last year's earthquake that killed 80,000 people in just minutes and left more than 3 million people homeless. It's in these cramped, squalid conditions that measles, cholera, pneumonia, meningitis, tuberculosis, polio, normally treatable diseases, spread quickly among the confines of the population.

In these places, the common hope is refuge and safety. But they are jam packed and it's often difficult to tell the sick from just the weary.

Health issues can spiral out of control in just a matter of days. Treating things like pneumonia is made harder still by the fact there's no clean water.

Here, the reality is freezing temperatures, no shoes. Even as I offer up a jacket, I fear he will freeze to death. But he scampers away.

In Rwanda, 12 years after its genocide, it's the women and the children hit hardest by an invisible virus -- HIV. These women are dying, many of them victims of rape as Rwanda was torn apart. Often left for dead. Truth is, they were, in fact, given a death sentence -- AIDS.

These women, sometimes with their infected children, are also refugees, labeled as unwanted.

Refugees live their lives assaulted by disease, plagued by the elements, and defined by uncertainty. Forget about planning for next year. They don't even know what tomorrow will bring.

Back in Sri Lanka, 8-year-old Doneth (ph) is a survivor, but now living with a gaping hole in his life. His crayons, now the way he communicates. Cars turned upside down in the water. That figure underneath a bamboo tree? His dead father, killed by the waves. Home would never be the same for him.

I went with Doneth (ph) as he saw his home for the first time after the tsunami. As a doctor, I know that it's the emotional trauma that can last long afterwards and cause the deepest scars. Sometimes the aid comes pouring in, as a venting of compassion occurs around the world. But the aid soon dries up, as disasters disappear from the headlines and the temporary refugee camps become permanent homes for those with nowhere else to go.

Dr. Sanjay Gupta, CNN, New York.

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COOPER: Well, Angelina Jolie has been trying to bring more attention to all of these people so desperately in need.

After the break, we'll show you how you can help if you want.

You're watching a special edition of 360, "Angelina Jolie: Her Mission and Motherhood."

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COOPER: Well, we've shown you some phone numbers over the last two hours, but we want to do it one more time in case you want to help.

You can go to the UNHCR Web site at www.unhcr.org/donate. You can also call U.S.A. for UNHCR at the toll-free number 1-800-770-1100. That's 1-800-770-1100. For our international viewers, you can contact UNHCR headquarters in Geneva, Switzerland at this number -- 41 22 739 8111.

Angelina Jolie, meanwhile, will continue her missions around the world for the U.N. We're glad she chose to talk to us about her work with refugees and about her growing family on this special edition of 360.

For everyone here at CNN, thanks for watching. Good night.

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