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Joran`s Defenders Speak Out

Aired June 18, 2010 - 19:00:00   ET



JANE VELEZ-MITCHELL, HOST (voice-over): Tonight, colossal new developments in the Joran Van Der Sloot case. Joran`s mom is now speaking out, saying her son is not a murderer or a monster, and blaming he has an addiction.

Plus, his first date with justice. Could the evidence against Joran seal his fate?

Then does Jaycee Dugard have a stalker? The woman who was kidnapped, held captive for 18 years and forced to be her abductor`s sex slave has a new nightmare. Jaycee`s estranged biological father wants to reunite with her, but she wants nothing to do with him.

I`ll talk to her father and another one of Phillip Garrido`s victims.

Plus, the effect of the oil spill are catastrophic. While fingers wag on Capitol Hill, people are suffering. Our environment is threatened. And more animals are enduring slow, painful deaths.

Can we put the brakes on this calamity? And how you can help.

ISSUES starts now.


VELEZ-MITCHELL: Tonight, a stunning new twist as Joran Van Der Sloot`s mother fights back, slamming his critics and making excuses for her son.

Anita Van Der Sloot sounds furious in an e-mail she fired off to ABC News, quote, "He is not the monster they`d like the world to see. He is traumatized, depressed and has an addiction. He is not a murderer," end quote.

Joran`s mom also lashes out at American media for the way her son is being portrayed. You mean like this?


UNIDENTIFIED MALE: This guy is a cold blooded killer. He`s a slick guy.

BETHANY MARSHALL, PSYCHOANALYST, AUTHOR OF "DEALBREAKERS": For the sociopath, the MO is to con people out of sex and money. You can see those with Joran.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: He`s completely narcissistic. It`s all about him.


VELEZ-MITCHELL: But aren`t those comments justified? After all, Joran is charged with murdering 21-year-old Stephany Flores in Peru last month. He is also the main suspect in Natalee Holloway`s disappearance in Aruba five years ago.

He has told numerous lies that have left two families devastated. Is all of this simply lost on Joran`s mom?

Well, apparently she`s gearing up for a big battle. Joran`s mom reportedly organizing her son`s defense team from Aruba, trying to raise money from friends. Meanwhile, Joran`s ex-girlfriend is also speaking out. Does she think Joran might have hurt her as well? This from ABC NEWS.


CHRIS CUOMO, ABC NEWS LEGAL UNIT: Have you ever thought to yourself, I`m lucky?

MELODY GRANADILLO, VAN DER SLOOT`S EX-GIRLFRIEND: At first no. At first, again, I didn`t think he was violent. Then as the time goes by, now especially, I think I was.


VELEZ-MITCHELL: Also tonight, Jean Casarez brings us incredible, exclusive footage of the Castro Castro prison in Lima. That`s where Joran is locked up as we speak.

Straight out to my amazing expert panel. But first, on the ground in Lima, Peru, Jean Casarez, correspondent for "In Session" on truTV, who has been scoring amazing exclusives.

Jean, Joran has a court date this coming Monday. What do we expect to come out of that hearing?

JEAN CASAREZ, CORRESPONDENT, "IN SESSION" ON TRUTV: Well, Jane, he`s going to be face-to-face with the judge in this case. It`s going to be in a courtroom that is adjacent to the Castro Castro prison. Usually they`ll take someone and bring them to the justice palace, which is right behind me but because of security reasons, this will be done at the facility close to the jail.

And on Monday, Joran Van Der Sloot is going to have to give a formal statement to the judge. He can`t refuse to do it because Peruvian law, it is mandatory at this point. The prosecutor will be there, the defense attorney will be there. We even understand the family attorney for the Flores family will be there in attendance.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Now I understand he is charged with first-degree murder and simple robbery, the max for that is 35 years. Have they charged him with aggravated robbery? In other words, a robbery that somehow in the commission of the robbery ends up in murder, he could have gotten life. Why the heck didn`t they charge him with that, Jean?

CASAREZ: This is what I`m being told by attorneys close to the case. The reason it was charged as simple robbery is that they believe at this course in their investigation that Stephany Flores was robbed by Joran Van Der Sloot after she was dead. So because of that, it is a simple robbery, putting her in the imminent fear for her life.

Now the fact is -- let`s look at the facts, Jane -- her little white purse was found on the nightstand in the hotel room. We saw that she got money that night at the casino. She put it into her little white purse. So to me there`s a question of fact whether there was a killing during the midst of a robbery.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: I don`t understand this.

Jeff Brown, you`re a criminal defense attorney. He probably wanted to rob her. I mean, look, he was watching her. He`d known her and now we`re getting published reports for days, she`s winning, winning, winning, winning at the casino. He`s losing, losing, losing. He says come back to my hotel. Next thing you know she`s dead.

I think robbery is a perfect motive and they could have charged him with something that could have given him a life sentence. Why not?

JEFF BROWN, CRIMINAL DEFENSE ATTORNEY: Yes, well, probably doesn`t cut it in a court of law. What happens is that the prosecutor is going to have to prove this case. They have to put on evidence or witnesses to suggest this theory that you`re advocating.

And there isn`t any evidence to prove that. All we know is she went in there with a purse, he left with the money. But when the money was taken we don`t know --

VELEZ-MITCHELL: That`s robbery.

BROWN: But we don`t know -- it is robbery. But when did it occur?


BROWN: There`s no evidence.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Mike Brooks, help me out here.

MIKE BROOKS, HLN LAW ENFORCEMENT ANALYST: It sure looks like robbery to me. You know, go back to the casino, take a look at the surveillance camera. How much money did she get --


BROOKS: Stand by, stand by.


BROOKS: Stand by, Jeff. Go by -- find out exactly how much money she had when she left the casino. But you know what? If he robbed her, he robbed her. She`s dead. It was a robbery. Was that the motive? That`s the question. But he still robbed her. I don`t care if it was before or after.

BROWN: Yes, but the law requires --

BROOKS: He should have been charged with that.

BROWN: The law requires --

VELEZ-MITCHELL: My --my personal feeling is that she probably fought back when he tried to take the money and that`s why he killed her.

BROOKS: Yes. I agree.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: That`s probably why he killed her because she fought back. So that`s aggravated robbery that results in murder.

BROOKS: Exactly.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: And that should have been a life sentence.



BROWN: There`s no evidence to that, other than that`s what we`re thinking. But there`s no evidence.

BROOKS: The money is missing. If he had the money --

BROWN: Yes. That`s a robbery. That`s a robbery.


VELEZ-MITCHELL: One at a time.

BROWN: But when it occurred is the issue here. If you`re going to prove that she was alive when the robbery occurred, you have to have some facts to prove that other than we think that that might have occurred.

As a defense lawyer, I would love for a prosecutor to say that`s what might have occurred. I want --



BROOKS: That`s what did occur.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Midwin Charles?



MIDWIN CHARLES, LEGAL CONTRIBUTOR, "IN SESSION" ON TRUTV: No, I think Jeff is right. I think I`d love for a prosecutor to try that argument. I mean that`s one of those types of cases you can try on a parking lot.

I mean, at the end of the day, you have to come forward as a prosecutor with facts to support your charge. And as Jean have said --

VELEZ-MITCHELL: I got a fact for you. A young woman is dead.

CHARLES: Yes, she is.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: She was a good gambler. He was not.

CHARLES: She sure is.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: OK. Jean sat down for an interview with murder victim Stephany Flores` family. Listen to this.


CASAREZ: He says in his confession that there was no struggle at all. But when we look at the injuries to Stephany`s body, there was a massive struggle.

ENRIQUE FLORES, STEPHANY`S BROTHER: Yes. I think in Chile he said that he didn`t do it and maybe there was a third person in the room. Now that he knows there was cameras, he cannot say that.


VELEZ-MITCHELL: Dr. Alan Lipman, here`s the family of murder victim Stephany Flores saying there was this vicious, violent struggle. She has bruises and marks all over her body.

Wouldn`t that be consistent with fighting back against somebody trying to rob you of thousands of dollars that you`ve won in a casino?

DR. ALAN LIPMAN, CRIMINAL PSYCHIATRISTS: Of course. And while we want to keep in mind the fact that we need clear evidence of the facts to be able to talk about aggravated robbery, is that some circumstantial evidence, yes.

Look at the bloody shirt as we`ve seen grisly pictures of. And the blood soaked tennis shoes of Stephany Flores. This was a bloody, vicious struggle and we have videotape evidence of him and her entering the room and him leaving with a new shirt. No third person.


LIPMAN: This is a vicious struggle between two people and one of those people is the seemingly charming, but ultimately brutal Joran Van Der Sloot.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: All right --

BROOKS: Didn`t he also at one point try to make up the story that there was someone waiting in the room to rob them and that story was --

LIPMAN: Mike, he has been --


LIPMAN: He has been through so many stories that the only thing he has proved --

BROOKS: It`s true.

LIPMAN: -- is that he is a consummate storyteller.

BROOKS: Right. And we know -- you`re absolutely right about it.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Hey, one at a time, everybody, or I have to bring out the big gavel, OK, because our viewers tell us they don`t want us all talking at the same time.

BROOKS: I was just agreeing with Alan.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: I want to -- I`ll bring out the big gavel on you.


BROOKS: Oh, wow.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Radaronline has published shocking images of items from the murder of Stephany Flores. Radaronline says these are official crime scene photos of Joran`s blood soaked shirt. The shirt he was wearing when allegedly bludgeoning Stephany to death.

The dark shirt is reportedly Stephany`s and has a blood stain on it as well. OK? How incriminating is that evidence, Jeff Brown?

BROWN: That`s pretty incriminating. There`s no question that they`re going to be able to prove her murder, I mean, he`s confessed to this. But, you know, that`s -- the issue here is trying to prove the sequence of events that occurred and they are stuck with his story to some extent.

I mean it`s really hard for a prosecutor to say part of the story he tells is true when part of it is not. So I think they are kind of stuck with his explanation of events.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Well, you know, my feeling is when you lie that many times about what you did, then -- I think that the prosecution should be able to make up what they think happened in the case.


VELEZ-MITCHELL: No, I`m being facetious.

We`re going to come back with more exclusives from Jean Casarez in a second. She inside Castro Castro prison. She talked to prisoners, she talked to a slew of people. You`re going to hear from them.

And as well, Jaycee Dugard battling another man in her life. And it`s not Phillip Garrido. This time it`s her estranged father. And I`m going to talk to him about why he wants to be part of her life for the very first time. And she ain`t having none of it.

More on the Joran Van Der Sloot case, first.


CASAREZ: You know, they talk about Castro Castro and it`s a maximum security prison. This is the entrance right here. Right here. Some of the most violent felons in Peru are housed right beyond that driveway.




DR. REEF KARIM, ADDICTION SPECIALIST: Many gamblers, not all, but quite a few gamblers that also have sociopathic tendencies or anti-social personality types. When you add in the alcohol that impairs judgment -- now look, this guy, we don`t know the whole story, but he may have this sociopathy mixed in with poor judgment with alcohol mixed in with this gambling problem that makes him so desperate for money and desperate for really anything in life.


VELEZ-MITCHELL: Addiction specialist Dr. Reef Karim`s analysis of Joran Van Der Sloot.

Joran`s ex-girlfriend shares her analysis with ABC News.


GRANADILLO: I know that he had the gambling problem. So I thought maybe that was taking over, you know?

CUOMO: Gambling was the big concern?

GRANADILLO: Was the big concern.

CUOMO: He started gambling a lot?



VELEZ-MITCHELL: Now Joran reportedly admitted to downing 10 whiskies and popping three amphetamine pills on the night of Stephany`s murder. You know that his mother now is implying Joran`s big problem is addiction.

That may be. He could well be a gambling addict, an alcoholic and a drug addict all wrapped into one. It`s called being cross-addicted.

But, Dr. Lipman, you are the psychiatrist. Being an addict and being murderer are not mutually exclusive. In fact, they sometimes go hand in hand, correct, sir?

LIPMAN: That`s exactly right. It`s called dual diagnosis for cross- addiction.

Look, I am both a doctor and a lawyer. I`ve seen these guys on both sides. And I will tell you that there are many addicted people, right from here to the cold cell of Lima, an addiction does not a murderer make.

This is someone who has shown impulsivity, lying, the slick charm of the psychopath. This is the classic case of a dual diagnosis. The slick murderous psychopath who can charm and kill, and who stimulates himself with drugs and alcohol and with gambling, which, of course, is another addiction.

So you put that all together and you get the classic form in that cell of a psychopath.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Buzzi, Connecticut, your question or thought? Buzzi?

BUZZI, CALLER FROM CONNECTICUT: Hi, honey. I`m sober 37 years, Jane, so.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Whoo. Congrats.

BUZZI: You`re doing great. You`re such a good speaker for those who were.


BUZZI: So --

VELEZ-MITCHELL: What`s your question or thought?

BUZZI: OK, this Joran, is that how you say his name?


BUZZI: Joran Van Der Sloot, I mean --


BUZZI: When I went -- I used to have -- after I got sober, I used to do prison ministries. You want to come to Connecticut. You can sleep in a plastic bed that looks like a casket. There`s no mattresses. You know what I`m saying? And they just said that --

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Are you saying that the prison is a lot cushier than prisons in the United States? Is that -- make your point, Buzzi.

BUZZI: Absolutely -- OK. I can`t speak for the whole of United States. I can speak for the town, I live in Connecticut now. I went to visit some guy there who`s an alcoholic. And I -- he was late, so I`m watching him bring out all these plastic things and I said to one of the prisoners, I`m like, what are those? He says those are our beds. I said, are you serious?

VELEZ-MITCHELL: OK. I got you. Thank you, Buzzi.

What are Joran`s living conditions behind bars at Castro Castro prison in Peru? Jean Casarez went inside in an exclusive to Joran`s very cell. Check this out. Amazing.


CASAREZ: This is the cell of Joran Van Der Sloot. They just took him out so we could come in here. This is where he lives day in and day out at Castro Castro. This is his clothes. Remember we saw him on television in these clothes. He still has them here.

Here are all of his personal belongings. You can see a lot of books. I see religious books. I see toothpaste, I see the bible right here. And then over here he has his own bathroom. As we heard, it is a hole in the ground.


VELEZ-MITCHELL: Jean Casarez, there seems to be a disagreement about how terrible Joran`s conditions are. Some people are describing Castro Castro where you got into as the worst prison in the whole world and others, as our caller in Connecticut says, hey, that`s better than some American prisoners -- prisons. What`s the real score?

CASAREZ: You know what, I think it`s a little bit of both, Jane. I think it`s a little bit of both. As I watch prisoners walk around in their street clothes, in their pockets, sure, they could put weapons in there. Why couldn`t they get them?

So on that stance, I think it could be a very dangerous place. But it also is focused on the prisoner doing their jobs. The focus is rehabilitation here. Their theory is we keep the crime outside, we want to rehabilitate inside so they can find another road in life.

BROWN: Jane, can I follow up --


VELEZ-MITCHELL: Go ahead, very quickly.

LIPMAN: You know, I`ve worked in the Connecticut prisons back in Enfield and at Yale, and even though that caller is absolutely correct, there are some prisons that are barebones, there are also prisons, minimum security and moderate security, that will very much match what Jean has so well described.

So it does depend upon the particular prison that you`re talking about. And there are certainly some that match the condition of Castro.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Well, let me tell you, I`ve been in prison to do interviews, thankfully not as an inmate, and just being in for 10 or 15 minutes or an hour is one of the most depressing experiences.

Any prison is awful. Why? Because you can`t get out of it if you`re an inmate. That`s the big problem with prisons.

LIPMAN: No freedom.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: They`re all horrible. But that`s why they`re punishment.

LIPMAN: Right.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Jaycee Dugard in the headlines again. And not about her 18 years in captivity but about her estranged biological father, pushing to get back in her life.

I`m going to talk to that biological father. It`s a primetime exclusive. Plus, more on Joran Van Der Sloot.



CASAREZ: And why are you here at Castro Castro here today?

PETER MIDDELKOOP, PASTOR SUPERINTENDANT: I was here visiting the Dutch inmates. There are several of them here, and one of them happens to be Joran Van Der Sloot.

CASAREZ: I know because of privilege you can`t tell us what you discussed or counseled Joran, but how is he doing?

MIDDELKOOP: Well, I am not allowed to say anything.


VELEZ-MITCHELL: Tonight, Joran Van Der Sloot`s mother lashing out at her son`s critics. She says he is not a monster or a murderer. And she`s saying this whole thing is a big trap. Huh?

Here is my big issue tonight. Are Joran and his mother co-dependent kin? She is insisting on her son`s innocence, implying that he was framed, that there was some sort of conspiracy, a trap?

What is she talking about? Yes, there was this extortion thing where he took off with 25 grand, apparently supplied by Natalee Holloway`s mom. But are they actually suggesting -- is Joran`s mother actually suggesting that there was some kind of conspiracy to set him up for the murder of Stephany Flores?

Midwin Charles, does any of this make sense?

CHARLES: You know what? It`s just a mother, a family that really is in denial. They are in denial about the position that their son is in. Remember, this is a guy who was arrested twice five years ago in connection with the disappearance of Natalee Holloway, and he was never brought to justice because his father was a judge.

So this is someone who comes from an affluent family, probably a well- connected family in Aruba. And they probably are having a hard time understanding the fact that their son is now going to have to deal with his problem.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: All right, Lorie, Maine, your question or thought, ma`am?

LORIE, CALLER FROM MAINE: Hi, Jane. I would like to know when they took Joran into interrogation, they had, like, a photo book. And I was just wondering what was in that photo book that the cop took out and was looking at?

VELEZ-MITCHELL: All right, I don`t know. Jean Casarez, what do you know -- here we have the video of Joran. I think that might have been him signing his confession. Jean?

CASAREZ: Now what are you talking about? What was taken from where when?

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Well, the caller seems to believe that there was some kind of photo book when Joran was arrested or when he was being interrogated. We do see video of him sitting in a chair signing things, but I would assume that that was his confession that he was signing.

CASAREZ: You know, he -- spoke to police three different times. Once in Chile saying he didn`t know anything about it, didn`t know Stephany. Another time he admitted knowing Stephany. Then they showed him all the video surveillance, the third time he made the confession.

So there`s three different times. He had a lot of personal belongings with him that they took, and obviously the police have them now. So -- but we haven`t been disclosed as to what a lot of those things were, actually.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: All right, 10 seconds, Jeff Brown, this criminal justice system is very different from America.

BROWN: Right.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: No jury. A three-judge panel. Do you think that he`s -- he`s done?

BROWN: Done, absolutely. Ten seconds, yes, done. I mean he`s got no way out of this. The question is -- what I have, is that why is murder only 35 years? That seems very odd to me.

BROOKS: Yes, exactly.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Yes, well, different countries. And --

BROWN: Life is cheaper in Peru.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: We`re going to stay on top of this. Yes, we`re going to be back with a live report from Peru in just a moment on the other side of the break.

Thank you, fabulous panel.

Jaycee Dugard held captive by her kidnapper for 18 long years. She bore two children to this monster. Now her estranged biological dad wants to reunite with her. She doesn`t want anything to do with him.


VELEZ-MITCHELL: I`m Jane Velez-Mitchell and here`s my issue. BP`s chief executive grilled by lawmakers on Capitol Hill today, acted more slippery than an oil slick.

Everyone is demanding the truth in the wake of reports that risky decisions were made on that rig to save money just before it exploded. Oil soaked protestors stormed the hearing screaming, "You should be charged with a crime."

They`re right, crimes against nature and a lifestyle that`s going extinct. But jaw-boning politicians will not remove oil from the Gulf waters. Where were they when Interior Department employees were out partying with oil executives instead of doing their job? Perhaps the lawmakers were out having lunch with oil industry lobbyists.

The slimy slick of corporate influence is long and wide and pollutes all of Capitol Hill. If we really want to avoid more spills, we need to clean up the ethical wasteland in Washington.

I`m Jane Velez-Mitchell and that`s my issue.

Does Jaycee Dugard have a stalker? The woman, who was kidnapped, held captive for 18 years and forced to be her abductors sex slave has a new nightmare. Jaycee`s estranged biological father wants to reunite with her but she wants nothing to do with him.

I`ll talk to her father and another one of Phillip Garrido`s victims.

Plus, the effect of the oil spill are catastrophic: while fingers wag on Capitol Hill, people are suffering, our environment is threatened and more animals are enduring slow, painful deaths. Can we put the brakes on this calamity? And how you can help.

New dramatic twists and turns tonight in the life of Jaycee Dugard. The young woman who was kidnapped at the age of 11, kept prisoner and impregnated twice by her captor is now fighting a brand new battle, her biological father. He`s never been part of her life and Jaycee and her family want to know why he`s demanding to establish a connection now.

Jaycee was discovered last summer in a private backyard prison, living right behind the home of her kidnappers, Phillip and Nancy Garrido. She had been allegedly raped by Phillip Garrido and given birth to two girls.

And then last spring, Jaycee and her family appeared in this ABC video to let the world know Jaycee is all right and on the mend.

Now Jaycee has made it clear she`s not interested in getting to know her biological father right now. But he`s making a desperate plea.


KEN SLAYTON, JAYCEE DUGARD`S BIOLOGICAL FATHER: If I had ever known that Jaycee existed, that she was my daughter and where she was living, I would have been there. I would have been a good, loving father and involved in supporting her and helping in any way that I could.


VELEZ-MITCHELL: In a primetime exclusive tonight, Kenneth Slayton is here now on ISSUES to talk about his apparent change of heart, along with his attorney, Gloria Allred. And also joining us, Katie Callaway-Hall, who was also kidnapped and raped by Phillip Garrido, and has become one of my heroes, a victim`s rights crusader.

Thank you all for joining us.

Ken, let`s begin with you. You`ve been absent from Jaycee`s life since day one. Why do you want to be a part of her life now?

SLAYTON: Because I -- I feel that she needs a father, and she`s been denied a father for 30 years. Had I known that she was really there, I would have been a father for 30 years. But for some reason, I was kept in the dark.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: I have to tell you that her family says the exact opposite. I mean, essentially they`re saying that you were not there from the moment she was born, and that you were not there when she was kidnapped and you were not there when they found her, and that this is the worst possible moment for you to try to be there, because she`s in seclusion trying to heal from an ordeal that is really almost incomprehensible being kept and raped by a strange man for almost 2 decades.

Gloria Allred, do you want to respond to that?

GLORIA ALLRED, ATTORNEY FOR KEN SLAYTON: Absolutely. A log of what you said was absolutely false or out of context. What happened was the mother never told him where she was or in fact he alleges that she never even told him that the baby was born. That Jaycee was in existence.

Had he known that, he would have been there for her, as he has been for his other children. He`s been married for 27 years now, and has been very responsible to all of his other children and to his wife.

And then, of course, when she was 11 years old, still not knowing where she was, suddenly the FBI shows up at his door and says that you have a daughter and she`s been kidnapped. That was completely shocking, completely devastating to him.

And then of course she`s missing for 18 years. The sheriff comes some years later and wants his DNA, which he happily gave. And said that she`s probably dead but we need your DNA in case we find her remains.

So for all of those years, he never, ever was told by the mother or anyone else where she was. Now at least she`s been found, thank God, and he`s happy that he has a daughter in existence and two grandchildren whom he`s never met.

He wants to be part of their life. He wants to give them love, support, caring. He wants nothing from Jaycee and his grandchildren. He just wants to give to them and have a relationship with them.

It`s never too late, Jane, to be a father. And it`s never too late for a child to reach out to her father, to have that parent-child relationship.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: But here is my big issue, Gloria. Why now at this crucial juncture when she`s trying to heal? Here are the only words we`ve heard from Jaycee since she was freed from her captor. This is ABC News, listen closely. It`s very, very quick.




VELEZ-MITCHELL: So, why now? Here`s the problem that I see. And let me just bring this to you. She was kidnapped, it`s still allegedly because he hasn`t gone to trial yet because of our slow-mo justice system, almost two decades ago. She was kept by this strange man and his wife in a backyard hell hole, forced to give birth to two children by him, repeatedly raped.

Can you understand, Gloria, why at this juncture the idea of a strange man suddenly coming into her life might freak her out because of the parallels to the trauma she`s just endured?

ALLRED: Well, let me just say, there`s absolutely no parallel between Phillip Garrido and Ken Slayton. Ken Slayton, Jane, is a Vietnam combat vet who is a hero to his country. He got a Purple Heart for his sacrifices in Vietnam.

He`s been a law abiding member of his community. He has always worked and fulfilled all of his responsibilities for his family.

He`s never known where his child is. If anybody ever told him and even though he did try to find his child after he heard from somebody else -- not the mother -- that the child was born, and looked like him, even though he tried to find her and couldn`t, the mother`s never told him the location.

It`s time to put this all behind everybody. Move forward to the future. We will do anything and everything to have this happen at a time that is appropriate for Jaycee.

If she has a counselor, Ken is happy to talk to the counselor and answer any questions. He`s already spoken to her attorney. He`s happy to answer any questions and whenever it`s time, the time is right for Jaycee, he just wants her to know he`s here for her and so is his whole family.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Look, Jaycee along with her two daughters and her mother, they`re healing in a private, undisclosed location. Now, here`s what Jaycee`s mom told ABC`s "Good Morning America" back in March. Let`s listen to this.


TERRY PROBYN, JAYCEE DUGARD`S MOTHER: It is my desire to share our miracle with the world. But it must be done on our terms.

What my family needs is privacy during our healing process. Please, give us the time we need to heal as a family, without the prying eyes of the photographers and the press.


VELEZ-MITCHELL: Ken, Jaycee says she does not wish to see you or your family at this time, but that she reserves the right to reconsider at a later date. Do you feel perhaps that --

SLAYTON: First of all --

VELEZ-MITCHELL: -- by insisting to see her now, you might be poisoning any potential for a relationship down the road, Ken?

SLAYTON: What you have to remember is that roughly when Jaycee was found, when I was named by the FBI as the father, it changed the whole game. I become the father. I never knew I was the father.

And since Jaycee was found, it didn`t start today, we`ve been looking for Jaycee since the moment we found out she was alive.

And I pursued it and I`m still pursuing. I am not going to give up on this deal. As far as her saying that she doesn`t -- I don`t believe she`s saying anything. I believe you`re hearing it from a spokeswoman. So you know, as far as --

VELEZ-MITCHELL: All right, I just want to read --

ALLRED: Ken is -- Jane, Ken can be part of the healing process if there is a counselor and the counselor thinks that he can help in this healing process.

He is not a photographer, all right. He is not a stranger. This is a man who, even the mother admitted now for the first time publicly that we`ve ever heard it in the press statement this week that he is the father and he wants to understand this --


VELEZ-MITCHELL: Yes, but Gloria she also says that she`s never denied that he was the father and it was Ken Slayton who showed no interest for the first 29 years of his daughter`s life. So she`s maintaining the opposite. I mean these are two totally different stories.

SLAYTON: How I can -- how can I show any interest -- how can I show any interest if I don`t know if she`s there? Ask the mother why she didn`t tell Jaycee when she was 1-year-old, 2 years old or 11 years old that she had a father.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: When we come right back on the other side of this break, we`re going to talk to Phillip Garrido`s rape victim and see what she has say about all of this.

Katie Callaway Hall weighs in, next.

And we`re saluting dads for Father`s Day. Jazeka (ph) is one of 11 children adopted by her father, Tom. Her father came out of retirement after mom lost her job. She says her dad works to give the family what it needs and never complains. Happy Father`s Day.


VELEZ-MITCHELL: The man who allegedly kidnapped and raped Jaycee Dugard gave a chilling jailhouse interview last year. In a telephone interview with KCRA, the man you`re looking at, Phillip Garrido urged people to wait for more details about what went on inside and behind his house.

Listen to this.


PHILLIP GARRIDO, JAYCEE DUGARD`S ALLEGED KIDNAPPER: You`re going to find the most powerful story coming from the witness, from the victim. You wait. You just, if you take this a step at a time, you`re going to fall over backwards and in the end, you`re going to find the most powerful, heart-warming story.


VELEZ-MITCHELL: Right now I would like to introduce one of my personal heroes, Katie Callaway Hall. She was a victim of Phillip Garrido as well and she has become really an amazing crusader for victim`s rights.

Katie thanks for joining us. You`ve been listening to Ken Slayton, the biological father of Jaycee Dugard, talk about wanting to get in touch with her even though she doesn`t want him to. What are your thoughts given your perspective?

KATIE CALLAWAY HALL, KIDNAPPED AND RAPED BY PHILLIP GARRIDO: Well, you know, as you know, Jane, I have been attending all of the Garrido hearings and I had the opportunity to meet Ken Slayton on two occasions. And both times he showed up with his high profile attorney.

And you know, it`s one thing to show up as a concerned parent. But it`s quite another thing to show up with Gloria Allred. And you know, Ken Slayton may be her biological father, but he never was, never -- he never -- he isn`t and he never was her dad.

And clearly he`s upsetting her. And I can`t imagine why anybody would want to upset Jaycee Lee Dugard. I mean, she`s been through enough.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Well, I`m a big fan of Gloria Allred. I`ve worked with her for many years. She`s a victim`s rights advocate and she fights for women. So I`m a big fan of Gloria`s.

But my sense is you`re saying you think there`s an ulterior motive for Ken to do this?

HALL: Well, I -- well, so far I haven`t heard of any -- I haven`t heard him say what the reason is that he needs such a high profile attorney to show up with him and -- and deal with this, you know, to prove his paternity or to demand his rights to see Jaycee.

I mean, I want to say something as a victim of kidnap and rape and a survivor and I want Ken to listen to this. After what happened to me, in all my relationships, in all my dealings with men, in whatever capacity, if any man insinuated, implied, showed me any reason, if he thought he had any rights to any part of me that I did not give him, all the red flags went up and he was cut out of my life.

Ken, I just think you`re doing this the wrong way.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Well, if there`s anyone who knows what Jaycee Dugard is going through, it is you, Katie Callaway Hall. Just for our viewer`s sake, let`s review your ordeal.

You were kidnapped and raped by Phillip Garrido way back in 1976. The attack only lasted a few hours but you have endured a lifetime of work processing and recovery to get through that nightmare.

And again, you`re one of my heroes because you turned your nightmare into something life affirming by becoming an outspoken crusader for victims of violence, particularly women.

What do you think it would do if he forced himself back into Jaycee`s life at this moment in time? Could it cause her to have another emotional reaction to the victimization that she experienced at the hands of Phillip Garrido, Katie?

HALL: I think very much so, I mean, she`s just -- she was just kept captive, she was kept as prisoner. She was under someone else`s complete power. He had total rights to everything about her.

And now with -- with Ken Slayton trying to impose his parental rights -- number one, she`s an adult. She`s -- she`s -- she doesn`t have to let anyone in her life that she doesn`t want to. And no one likes to be forced to have someone in their life. There`s other ways to go about it.

And I think give -- just give her some time and just -- just settle down. This is not the right time. She`s got so much on her plate right now. You know, I --


HALL: Yes.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Katie Callaway Hall, I want to thank you again. You are one of my heroes. Please come back.

I know that you`re going to be there for the court case. You`re going to be following the trial, of course, with our slow mo justice system, it could be two years before Phillip and Nancy Garrido go to trial.

But I know you will be there every step of the way.

HALL: I will be there.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: God bless you.

HALL: Thank you Jane.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Up next, we`re going to talk about the oil spill and the devastation that is wreaking on animals. We`re going to talk to the head of the Humane Society of the United States about what you can do to help the devastation in the Gulf and help these animals who are drowning in oil. That`s next.


VELEZ-MITCHELL: The deadly oil apocalypse continues to wreak havoc on the Gulf coast; thousands of animals covered in oil now, as we speak, dying slow, painful deaths. The numbers are infuriating: 829 birds, 353 endangered and threatened sea turtles, all dead.

Just yesterday a beautiful, enormous sperm whale found dead near the deadly gusher. Oil-soaked animals fighting for their lives trying to desperately escape the toxic spill; it`s like trying to outrun a forest fair.

Tonight an ISSUES call to action: We must save these animals.

Straight to Wayne Pacelle, president and CEO of the Humane Society of the United States, and my dear friend, Wayne, we are seeing video and pictures of awful pictures of these poor oil-soaked animals. Is this just the tip of a very deadly iceberg?

WAYNE PACELLE, PRESIDENT, HUMANE SOCIETY OF THE U.S.: Well, you`ve got it exactly right, Jane. I mean for every one that`s coming into the wildlife care centers, there could be 100, 200, 500 oiled animals who are not getting spotted and pulled out of that deadly environment and brought to one of these centers.

There are very few boats in this massive, expansive area, the spreading area, which is the impact area for the oil spill. Of course, as you know, 60,000 barrels a day streaming into the Gulf.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: It makes me literally nauseated. I haven`t even been able to sleep through the night because of this monstrosity.

While animals are drowning in oil on the Gulf Coast, BP`s CEO was in complete denial on Capitol Hill. He`s more slippery than an oil slick. Check out this dude. Unbelievable.


TONY HAYWARD, CEO, BRITISH PETROLEUM: I`m afraid I can`t recall.

I don`t recall that either, I`m afraid.

I can`t answer your question in that form.

I`m afraid I can`t answer that question. I genuinely don`t know.


VELEZ-MITCHELL: Unbelievable. You can`t bring dead animals back, but Wayne, I certainly hope your organization and others demand BP donate billions to animal causes to compensate for this. What can you say?

PACELLE: Well, I think they`ve got to step up, but right now they seem to be not very transparent, not very robust with the laws. They seem to be focused on the engineering issues and on the skimming, which are all tremendously important, but there is this terrible tragedy unfolding every minute of every day with this toxic substance that is spreading now, now approaching Alabama, now approaching Florida.

I mean, it is just an enormous area. We need more boats; we need more trained wildlife people out there to spot oiled wildlife.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: And a lot of people are complaining that actually red tape, government bureaucracy and BP are hampering. We talked to a fisherman who said he wanted to go out and rescue birds. They wanted him to take a 60-hour course before he could do anything.

PACELLE: No. It`s all under this unified command, it`s tightly- controlled. The wildlife response here -- the U.S. Fish and Wildlife service people and the Louisiana Department of Fisheries and a lot of folks are very dedicated. I think they`re doing a good job, but there just aren`t enough of them.

There are 2,000 wildlife centers in this country, there are volunteers from these centers who want to go. There`re Audubon people, there`re Humane Society people, there`re Wildlife Federation people who can identify animals, who have experience in handling them. They need to get into the system and at the very least be spotting animals on the shore. Get into boats, get onto some Coast Guard vehicles, boats so they can see animals.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: The way you can help is join Humane Society of the United States, join animal organizations. Everybody out there, you have to be a voice for these voiceless animals and demand that BP give animal causes money to make up for their horror show.

Wayne, thank you.

You`re watching ISSUES.

PACELLE: Thank you.