Return to Transcripts main page
CONNECT THE WORLD
Germany's Strong Show Was Still Not Enough To Beat Spain In The World Cup Semi-Finals; Africa's Football Clubs Are Now Searching For And Cultivate Talent Like Never Before
Aired July 7, 2010 - 16:00:00 ET
THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY BE UPDATED.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
PAULA NEWTON, CNN INTERNATIONAL SECURITY CORRESPONDENT: Do you think there's been any (INAUDIBLE) change in the risk to radicalization here in Britain?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Absolutely not.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: If anything, I would say it's as bad as it ever has been.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
BECKY ANDERSON, CNN INTERNATIONAL HOST: London's former anti-terror cop admits the city has learned very little from its worst attack since World War II. Five years to the day, Britons remember their loved ones lost forever -- and horrific experience that resonates in Mumbai, in Madrid, in New York and more.
Tonight, we ask, does anyone have the answer to an ever present threat?
Becky Anderson here in London on a day of quiet commemoration and determination. But beneath the resolve, a realization that along with governments around the world, we here in Britain are yet to figure out how to prevent terror attacks in the future.
Also tonight on the show, Climategate resolved -- scientists are cleared of accusations they fudged their results to bolster the case for manmade global warming.
And you've got live pictures of the celebrations and Madrid. Spain has scored in its semi-final versus Germany. They are one up with less than 20 minutes to go. There you go. We're live in South Africa for you tonight. And we'll get you instant reaction from Madrid and, indeed, from Berlin.
And this is where you get involved. Whether you are gutted or gleeful, tell us what you think of the game tonight. We're going to put your thoughts to a former international football star on this show this hour. Tweet me at atbeckycnn.
First up this evening, remembering the day when four British nationals turned on their home country, unleashing attacks that shocked London and, indeed, the world. Relatives who lost loved ones on July the 7th held private memorials on Wednesday, exactly five years since the bombings on London's public transport system killed 52 people and wounded 700 others.
British officials say the bombers were young, radicalized Muslims who wanted to avenge perceived injustices by the West.
Well, quite disturbing then that a former anti-terror chief in Britain says there's been no progress in stopping the radicalization of London's Muslim community since 7/7.
Our Paula Newton tells us why he believes the city should fear more attacks.
First, though, she takes us back to July the 7th, 2005.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: An al Qaeda Web site says Britain is
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: But we need a doctor that would be...
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The emergency services is now in charge of this incident.
A.C. ANDY HAYMAN, SPECIALIST OPERATIONS: They are very challenging scenes. Our people are working under the most extreme circumstances.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: And I can see in front of me a red double-decker parked, the front half of which has been totally blown away. There are paramedics on the scene. There are members of the public. There are police all over.
NEWTON: Extraordinary that day. I mean it was supposed to be a tube that was hit. Instead, it was a bus...
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes, it was.
NEWTON: -- coming down -- coming down the street.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: And -- and as we know, the investigation -- the bomber got (INAUDIBLE). He came up to Kings Cross, because his bomb didn't go off, to get a battery. They didn't know what to do, these three colleagues that (INAUDIBLE) their problems. So you can't look forward (INAUDIBLE) who was there.
NEWTON: And unfortunately, even though he had panicked, he killed many people here.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Absolutely horrendous.
NEWTON: It was chaos here, wasn't it?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It was absolute chaos. If you can imagine a double-decker bus with a bomb going off, with bodies -- body parts flew everywhere. And I don't think we should ever forget an experience that will be, for people in Britain, (INAUDIBLE), let alone with all the -- the people who lost their lives.
And to have simultaneous bombs, i.e. Four in a row, and then to have further attacks or attempted attacks two weeks later, this was rocking London to its feet.
NEWTON: So you don't think that there's been, in five years, a shift change in the rift to radicalization here in Britain?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Absolutely not.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: If anything, I would say it's as bad as it ever has been. And that's a real indictment on the amount of money that's been invested.
NEWTON: That's chilling for somebody traveling in London today.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Well, that's the reality pill.
The fourgee is down the right. We've had several other attempts. We've had people put in prison for it. We're not making the inroads we thought we would do with the Muslim community it's hard to (INAUDIBLE) being radicalized.
So you tell me why we shouldn't be still fearful.
NEWTON: Paula Newton, CNN, London.
ANDERSON: Hmmm, well, the grim assessment about the situation in Britain now.
But what about other countries that have endured similar attacks?
This is CONNECT THE WORLD, joining the dots for you.
Have they learned lessons to make their cities any safer?
Well, three reports for you now, starting off with India, working to avoid a repeat of the devastating siege of Mumbai.
SARA SIDNER, CNN CORRESPONDENT: I'm Sara Sidner in New Delhi, India.
India has made a concerted effort to try and bolster its intelligence gathering and security forces since the attack. It's added four hubs for the National Security Guard, which is really charged with neutralizing any specific terrorist threat around the country. It has also added a brand new agency called the National Investigative Agency. It's latest job -- questioning American terror suspect, David Headley, for his role in the Mumbai attack.
NIC ROBERTSON, CNN SENIOR INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: I'm Nic Robertson in Pakistan.
Both the intelligence community here and the police are realizing after not just the Mumbai attack, but the other attacks that have been going on here in Pakistan, that the police force is just not structured to try and deal with investigating terrorist acts, that the force isn't adequately trained, that there aren't enough officers, that they lack certain amounts of equipment.
And when it comes to pushing through prosecutions, they're also finding they're coming up against roadblocks -- judges who don't really understand the details of e-mails and how they can be presented as evidence, don't understand how hard drives can be used to present evidence. Those are some of the things that are being learned here.
AL GOODMAN, CNN CORRESPONDENT: I'm Al Goodman in Madrid.
The September 11th attacks in the United States were a wakeup call for Spain's intelligence services, but the real blow came two-and-a-half years later, with the Madrid train bombings on March 11, 2004, that killed 191 people and wounded 1,800 others. At the time, there were just 100 Spanish police officers dedicated to fighting Islamic terrorism, backed up by a small number of Arabic translators. Now, the government says, there are 1,300 police officers and 70 Arabic translators working round the clock against Islamic terrorism.
(END VIDEO TAPE)
ANDERSON: Al Goodman rounding out those reports from around the world for you.
Our big thinker on this story tonight says it is inherently difficult to protect open societies. But, he says, there is reason to be optimistic about the fight against terror.
I spoke earlier with Fareed Zakaria and this is what he told me.
FAREED ZAKARIA, HOST, "FAREED ZAKARIA GPS": The world's biggest cities are no safer than they were five years ago, largely because it is very difficult to protect large, complex cities in modern countries. They're open societies. There's only so much you can do. Imagine a world in which you had to go through metal detectors, I don't know, to get into a subway station or a tube station or a cafe.
So it is inherently difficult to protect open societies, particularly cities, if the object is simply to kill civilians.
But I think that there is a broader question where I'm not sure the pessimism is as warranted, which is are there -- is the production of jihadis as intense as it was five or seven years ago?
And there, I think there's actually a lot of good news.
ANDERSON: Yes, why?
ZAKARIA: There have been elections in Indonesia, in Malaysia, in India, even in Pakistan. And the jihadi types have all done terribly. So the public support that they seemed to be -- you know, 10, 15, 20, 25 percent, in some cases, 10 years ago, for the idea of jihad, of violence, is down to 1, 2, 5 percent. It's much, much lower than it was. And you can see this when you -- when you go into these societies, there was a kind of romance about Osama bin Laden. It was kind of like -- like being in favor of Che Guevara in the 1960s.
That's gone, largely because so many of these al Qaeda affiliated groups have actually engaged in terrorism in those countries. And, of course, what they're done is they've killed locals. They've killed local men, women and children. And people now recoil.
So I think there's much less broad public support.
ANDERSON: Interesting stuff.
You've been talking about the numbers in Afghanistan and in Pakistan. And I'm alluding here to al Qaeda. There is, of course, a bigger problem in other parts of the world. And I'm thinking about the Horn of Africa, for example. You say you haven't got any -- any solutions. Al Qaeda itself recently launched an English language Web site. They're certainly focusing more on the sort of new age terrorism.
Should we perceive that to be a greater threat to us these days?
ZAKARIA: I would say, first, no. Pakistan is a real problem and that's why Britain, as I say, is so vulnerable, because of the large inflow and outflow from Pakistan into Britain. The problem is you can't really go into Pakistan. It's a sovereign country. And so we have to work with the Pakistani government, particularly the Pakistani military, which has never had, shall we say, the best interests of British and American citizens at heart. It's playing its own game vis-a-vis Afghanistan and India. And it only takes are of the jihadis, you know, if it suits its -- its own purposes and interests.
But to your larger question, the Horn of Africa, it's a problem. It's an ungovernable space. You know, what -- what al Qaeda does is it finds the nooks and crannies of the world where the governments either are friendly, as they were in Pakistan, or where they've collapsed, as they have in the Horn of Africa.
ANDERSON: Is there anything that you heard from governments either in London, Mumbai, Bali, Madrid or -- or in Islamabad -- anything that you hear from any one government that you say you know what, you've got it, you've got it right and that's the direction we should be going?
ZAKARIA: The most important thing I think we can do is to be resilient in the face of the attacks. And the most interesting example is the Indian government after its very terrible attacks in Mumbai, where the terrorists held the city hostage for two or three days; many, many dozens of people died. The Indian government made a deliberate decision that they were not going to engaged in any kind of showy, ostentatious retaliation. They were not going to go after terrorist camps in Pakistan, though they knew well where those were, because they felt this would engage in a kind of cycle of retribution which would only get further attacks. And most important, they wanted to send the message to the terrorists, we're just going to get on with our lives, you didn't disrupt us as much as you thought.
There are going to be terrorist attacks. We are living -- we live in open societies. The most important thing we can do is to demonstrate resilience, because if we do that, we ultimately defeat the purpose of terrorism.
ANDERSON: Fareed Zakaria speaking to me earlier today on what is the anniversary of 7/7 here London, talking about the lessons that we might have learned.
We're going to take a very short break.
This is CONNECT THE WORLD.
I'm Becky Anderson in London this Wednesday.
Back after this.
ANDERSON: Well, you're looking here at what some call the train of death traveling through Mexico to the U.S. border. People who are hoping to cross that border ride on top, risking their lives for a chance to fulfill their American dreams.
Our correspondent, Karl Penhaul, rode along with them last month. You may remember that. And we brought you his report as part of our week of special coverage on the violence, drugs and crime plaguing Mexico.
Well, thousands of people have climbed on this train hoping to escape. Hundreds have been injured, attacked or even killed while doing it. But some of them do eventually make it across the border and into the U.S.
Well, the arrival of those immigrants is a controversial issue and one that, on this show, we have devoted some time to. It's no secret that the state of Arizona is preparing to crack down on them in an unprecedented way.
Well now, the U.S. federal government is fighting back, filing a lawsuit to stop the law from taking effect.
CASEY WIAN, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): From the moment Arizona Governor Jan Brewer signed a controversial law expanding local police powers to crack down on illegal immigrants and their employers, a White House legal challenge seemed inevitable.
Following 12 weeks of protests, boycotts and threats, the Justice Department is suing to block SB 1070 before it takes effect July 29th.
Attorney General Eric Holder said in a statement: "Setting immigration policy and enforcing immigration laws is a national responsibility. Seeking to address the issue through a patchwork of state laws will only create more problems that it solves."
Supporters of Arizona's law say the federal government has created the problem, with its failure to solve the nation's illegal immigration crisis. One outspoken Arizona sheriff says his deputies won't stop arresting suspected illegal immigrants because previous state laws have been upheld by federal courts.
SHERIFF JOE ARPAIO, MARICOPA COUNTY, ARIZONA: Lawsuits or no lawsuits, I'm going to continue enforcing the federal and state immigration laws.
WIAN: The law compels local police, during a lawful stop, detention or arrest, to check the immigration status of people they reasonably suspect are illegal immigrants.
Brewer said in a statement: "The truth is, the Arizona law is both reasonable and constitutional. It mirrors substantially what has been federal law in the United States for many decades."
The Obama administration's lawsuit does not address claims by Latino advocacy and civil rights groups that SB 1070 will encourage racial profiling and violations of all immigrants' civil rights. Those groups are suing Arizona as well.
REV. WARREN STEWART, 1ST INSTITUTIONAL BAPTIST CHURCH OF ARIZONA.: I can guarantee you that civil rights and human rights organizations all over the world are rejoicing with us today that the federal government is suing the state of Arizona. Shame on our government and legislators for causing this to happen to this state.
WIAN: The ACLU said in a statement: "The federal government has sent a clear message that it will not tolerate state laws that invite racial stereotyping."
But 20 House Republicans signed a letter to Attorney General Holder saying the lawsuit, quote, "not only disregards the will of the majority of Arizonans, but also the majority of Americans."
Casey Wian, CNN, San Francisco.
ANDERSON: Let me remind you, the state of Arizona is one of four in the U.S. that borders Mexico, but it's not one of the most popular states for Mexican migrants. Take a look at this map. Of the 11 million Mexican born people living in the U.S., 37 percent live in California. The darker shaded states have the greatest share of Mexican immigrants. More than 20 percent in Texas; only about 5 percent actually living in Arizona. Still, that means the state of Arizona is home to more than half a million Mexican born people.
And the president of Mexico has strongly opposed Arizona's new law.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
FELIPE CALDERON, PRESIDENT OF MEXICO: To introduce these kind of elements, especially racial profiling aspects that are attempting against what we consider human rights, it's the principle of discrimination, which is against the values of this great nation.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
ANDERSON: Take a look at the Connect Line we're on by the numbers. And Mexico itself is a destination for migrants, too. But only about a half a million migrants living there. The vast majority -- get this -- nearly 70 percent -- 7-0 -- are from the U.S. About 5 percent from Guatemala, 4 percent from Spain and the rest from Cuba, Argentina and a number of other countries.
Meanwhile, Amnesty International has condemned what it calls the widespread abuse of migrants in Mexico. Mexico's Human Rights Commission reported that nearly 10,000 migrants were kidnapped over a six month period in 2009. Almost half of those interviewed said that public officials were involved in their kidnapping.
Well, Amnesty also reporting about 60 percent of migrant women and girls experience sexual violence. And it has called on Mexico to bring those responsible to account.
That's the story.
This is the next story on CONNECT THE WORLD, the second semi-final is over and Spain have won it. They've beaten the Germans. And I'm being told it is 1-0. Spain scored in the 73rd minute, ahead of Carlos Puyol.
I want to take you to Madrid.
Let's go to bureau chief Al Goodman, and Diana Magnay, who's standing by in Berlin.
Let's start there with Al and the euphoria one gets, as I can see it all happening behind you.
GOODMAN: Hi, Becky.
The big fiesta is on. Look at this crowd. Spain makes history and goes to the finals of the World Cup for the first time. Spain has been in 13 times in the World Cup. They never made it to the semi-finals, never made it to the finals. Now they're in it, beating Germany -- the powerful Germany, 1-0 on a goal by the Spanish captain, Puyol, in the 73rd minute, a header coming in also (INAUDIBLE) taking the steam out of this German machine.
Look at this crowd. They're singing "Aporayos (ph)," go after them, go get them. That's what this team did -- Becky.
The fiesta is on. It's on to the final against Holland -- Becky.
ANDERSON: Fantastic idea. Ole. Ole. You've got the headphones on for a reason, so that you can actually hear me while I'm talking to you. Just give me a sense of the atmosphere there in Madrid through the game, because some have been calling it a pretty -- it was -- it was a difficult game.
GOODMAN: You know what, Becky?
I couldn't hear you.
GOODMAN: But I can tell you, this has been so -- this means so much to this country. This country that has been dividend by the left, the political left, the political right, by the various regions (INAUDIBLE) Basques, everybody dividend except for right now. This country is unified.
Look at this, Becky. Look at this crowd right here. Look at this crowd right here. There you have it. This scene being repeated all across Spain -- thousands of people outside the Bernabeu Stadium in Madrid, in stadiums around the country, big screens at bars and homes. This is the Spanish moment -- Becky.
ANDERSON: Well, I can feel the emotion from Al. I can certainly see the emotion behind him outside the Bernabeu Stadium there, as Al suggests, being repeated around Madrid.
And Spain has made it to the finals against Holland at the World Cup 2010. Germany, sadly, stumbling at the last.
Let's bring in Diana Magnay, who's been shuttling sort of around Europe, really, covering these games for us -- and, Diana, a quite different atmosphere for you in Berlin tonight than that which you had in - - in Holland last night -- disappointment for the Germans.
DIANA MAGNAY, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Absolutely, Becky. The fans here are so disappointed by that result, so hoping that this young, dynamic German team would make it through to the finals. But no, they're out at the same stage that they were in 2006. Then, they lost to Italy. Now they've lost to Spain.
And also what makes that kind of injury so much worse is the fact that that game really was a difficult one for them and they didn't really shine. And they have shone so much in this tournament, you know. And it looked as though they might be able -- they had so many opportunities.
But that goal from Creola (ph) just went straight past Manuel Neuer in goal. And he's -- he saved so many in this tournament, but just this time around, they couldn't pull it out of the bag. They couldn't up their game enough...
MAGNAY: -- so Spain was a stronger team, was a stronger performance then -- Becky.
ANDERSON: Yes, I think Homera (ph), everybody would agree, those who watched the game, that certainly Spain deserved to win it. But across the tournament, it's got to be said, the Germans have played absolutely fantastic football, surprising people right from the beginning. A bit of a stumble in the first round, but, really, at the end of the day, one can understand why people in Berlin and across Germany so disappointed tonight.
Diana Magnay for you in Berlin.
Thank you, Di.
This is CONNECT THE WORLD.
I'm Becky Anderson in London.
Coming up, climate controversy -- some top climate scientists got their reputation nearly ruined over hacked e-mails. But their claims about global warming may be finding new defenders. That's the story we're going to do in the next couple of minutes.
We will get back to the football for you, though, at the bottom of the hour.
Stay with us.
ANDERSON: Welcome back.
This is CONNECT THE WORLD.
I'm Becky Anderson.
Now incredible images are coming your way from the depths of the Arctic Ocean. Take a look at this -- an expedition by the environmental group Greenpeace unveils stunning new pictures of sea life on the sea bed - - images like we have never seen before. Underwater photographer Gavin Newman tells CNN that he found a surprising amount of varied sea life in the frigid temperatures 600 meters below the ocean's surface.
But Greenpeace warning these fragile ecosystems are under threat from rising temperatures, ocean current changes and the sea's absorption of carbon dioxide from the atmosphere.
You'll see on the ticker at the bottom of the page, of course, that the World Cup semi-final is over. We're going to get back to that.
First up, they were caught up in the controversy known around the world as Climategate. But now scientists at a top climate change research center in the U.K. are finding vindication for themselves and maybe even for their warnings about global warming.
This is a report from my colleague, Atika Shubert.
ATIKA SHUBERT, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over):
It's hard to forget with mocking videos like this on YouTube. For global warming skeptics, the phrase "hide the decline" was Exhibit A in the case against climate change. But no one is doing time for Climategate.
(on camera): In fact, three independent inquiries have exonerated the scientists at the heart of the scandal. This review concludes that, quote: "We find that their rigor and honesty as scientists are not in doubt."
(voice-over): This was Climategate -- thousands of e-mails hacked from the University of East Anglia server -- exchanges between scientists at the university's influential Climate Research Unit. Many of the e- mails, particularly from CRU head, Phil Jones, dismissed critics and said to be preventing dissenters from accessing raw data.
One of the most damaging e-mails was a discussion of a, quote, "trick" in calculating the Earth's temperatures. The harshest critics said this showed scientists were manipulating data, making manmade global warming a much bigger deal than it really is.
Scientists said it was taken out of context.
And now, Sir Muir Russell, chair of the Independent Climate Change E- Mail Review, says there was nothing to damage the integrity and honor of the scientists' work. The problem was a lack of transparency.
MUIR RUSSELL, INDEPENDENT CLIMATE CHANGE E-MAILS REVIEW: What we did, however, conclude was that they had not shown sufficient openness in the way in which they responded to requests for information about what they were doing, about the data that they were processing, about the stations that they were analyzing and so on. Science is no longer done as it were amongst consenting scientists in private, producing scientific papers that only they discuss and only they understood. And instead, it becomes part of public debate.
And one of the things that's really driven that is what they call the blogosphere.
SHUBERT: Phil Jones had been suspended during the inquiry. He is now back to work as director of the CRU.
He issued a statement that read: "We have maintained all along that our science is honest and sound and this has been vindicated now by three different independent external bodies."
But has the damage been done?
A BBC media poll in February, after Climategate broke, showed that at least 50 percent of respondents now believe that manmade global warming is simply a theory that has not been conclusively proven. Still, the overwhelming consensus among climatologists is that global warming is real and our burning of fossil fuels is a key cause. Now they must also convince a wary public.
Atika Shubert, CNN, London.
(END VIDEO TAPE)
ANDERSON: And check out how you've been weighing in on this at CNN.com/connect. Some work there by our digital producer, Phil Han.
We've got much more from the World Cup just ahead this evening. Alex Thomas, our correspondent, joins us live with a blow by blow account of Spain's semi-final victory over Germany and reaction from Madrid and Berlin for you coming up.
Stay right there.
ANDERSON: Back with CONNECT THE WORLD, here on CNN. It is Wednesday in London.
Coming up, eyes on the prize. Favorites Spain are still in the running to take home the World Cup trophy after a dramatic semi-final 1-nil win over Germany. Let me cross live to South Africa and get you the all- important goal in a moment. Plus, what role did careful planning play in Germany's strong showing, until today's match that is? We meet some of the scouts seeking out star quality in the nation's young players.
And before the end of the program we'll link up with a former England international. He's done a lot of work developing the beautiful game in Africa.
Fash the Bash, or John Fashanu, as he's known, is your "Connector of the Day". All of those stories in the next 30 minutes. First a very quick check of the headlines for you.
Well, it is Spain who is going to face the Netherlands in the World Cup finals, after a 1-nil win over Germany. Spain scoring the winning goal in the 73 minute, after a tightly contested scoreless first half, part of which we are showing you now. The winner on Sunday will be the first European World Cup champion, in a tournament staged outside of Europe.
Well, all that deep sea soothsayer has done it again. Yesterday we showed you Paul the octopus predicting Spain's win over his home nation, Germany, in tonight's semi finals. Now, he did it by picking his food from a box bearing the Spanish flag. That means he correctly predicted the result of all six of Germany's games. I wonder who he's going to pick for Sunday's final.
Let's find out who Alex Thomas is going to pick. He's our man in Durbin tonight.
Alex, it was a very quiet start. Things picking up in the second half, it was well, it was the match that everybody expected.
ALEX THOMAS, CNN SPORTS CORRESPONDENT: Yes, Becky, actually at times a slightly subdued atmosphere in Durbin stadium behind me. And a little bit strange, but in the end it was a fascinating tussle. A chess match of a football game. One for the purists, beautiful, beautiful technical ability displayed by Spain throughout it. And you know what? This 2010 World Cup is going to have a moment of history. Spain are gong to face Holland, in the final at Soccer City, on Sunday. And neither of those countries have ever won the World Cup before. But one of them will be the best football team on the planet come the end of the week.
Now, Spain against Germany was always going to be a blockbuster after the two of them met in the final of Euro 2008. Let's show you the action highlights from this game. The ones that decided it. Starting with a controversial moment, just seconds before half time, Mesathersle (ph), of Turkish descent, playing for Germany. Such a talented midfielder, fouled, fouled by Sergio Ramos (ph), many feeling that was a penalty. Certainly in my eyes it was a foul, whether or not it was inside the area, from my seat I couldn't quite see properly.
In the second half, a head up and Carlo Puyo (ph), Raya Madrid (ph), the defender, sealed victory for Spain. Latching on to Javes (ph) corner, and it was one goal, it was enough for Spain. They also had a controversial decision towards the end of the match, a bit like that penalty kick, that wasn't given. But there we are, that is the head up on Puyo (ph). That was the moment of triumph for Spain, coming halfway through the second half.
I mean, look at the statistics, Becky, possession-wise they dominated the first half. I haven't got the stats on me full time, just yet, but I wouldn't be at all surprised if we saw more of the same from Spain. Dominant technically, and they are through to the World Cup finals for the first time in their history.
ANDERSON: And at something like 53 or 54, minutes in this game, Spain had had 11 shots at goal. And Germany only two. One commentator described, certainly the first half, as a powder puff, of a game, Alex.
And you Tweeted earlier, saying, I know Briskay (ph) and Fibergas (ph)are different players. Sorry, can't stand the tension. Of what you described as a cagey match, and it was. Wasn't it? It was a cagey match. Not quite the sort of game that we saw last night. And we hope, in a way, that we got an absolute blockbuster, I guess, on Sunday.
THOMAS: No, absolutely, Becky, I have to say I agree with a lot of the other football writers in the stadium, the Tweeting, too. I found it fascinating that first half. And many said if any one found that nil-nil half time boring, they need to go follow another sport. It was a fascinating struggle. OK, Germany, we have seen them destroy Argentina with four goals, and Australia with four goals, and no reply. They destroyed England, 4-1. They were never going to do that against Spain, who have a far better defense, a far organized. And although it was tactical at times, during that first half, it was a real, really, interesting football tussle between to great teams.
Germany are a young squad. We know their time will come. We thought maybe it was earlier than we expected. But that goal from Carlos Queiroz (ph) has ended the hopes of (UNINTELLIGIBLE) young side, and it is Vicente (ph), Spanish matadors that go through to face Holland in Sunday's final, Becky.
ANDERSON: Alex, appreciate that. Look forward to Sunday with you. Good stuff from Durbin. Thank you.
OK, let's get more fan reaction. I want to bring back Al Goodman, who is in Madrid.
Now, a World Cup final, uncharted territory, for Spain, as we have just been discussing. The atmosphere -- oh, have we got you. Yes, we have got you. I hope you can hear me. Tell us what's going on there.
GOODMAN: This is historic, Becky. And we've got to say that, octopus, Paul the Octopus, over there in Germany, that predicted that Spain would beat Germany. Got to take your hat off, that octopus was right.
Now, it looked to a lot of people in this crowd, and they have moved out into the street here. It looked like a shooting gallery for Spain in the second half. They just kept hammering and hammering and hammering. And finally, one -- finally one of them went in.
There you have that moment of the goal, when Peugeot (ph) the captain, the stalwart defensemen from FC Barcelona, playing on this team. Hitting it in on a corner kick. So, Spain, really, I wouldn't call it in disbelief, because they were half hoping, half believing, if you talk to a lot of people here, which we did. That they could actually do this. They have one more game to get that crown. Remember, they came into this tournament as a favorite. Lost to Switzerland, haven't lost yet. Have not lost since then, Becky.
ANDERSON: I don't know if you had a chance to speak to people? I know people are now moving away, and you have just been -- uh, uh, uh, discussing the fact that Spain has go to do it. Now, do the Spanish believe they can beat the Netherlands on Sunday?
GOODMAN: Well, I talked to so many Spaniards, who thought that the old ghost would come out against Germany. Every person that I talked to thought that Germany would -- if they could get past Germany, they have a really good chance to knock off Holland in the final. They think that Germany is a tougher team. Of course, the know many of the players from the Dutch team, because they played right here for the Real Madrid Club team. Many of those players, on the Dutch team, who could take it right to the finals.
So, Spain and certainly the Spanish players on the team think the know the Dutch style, and I would say the Spanish public thinks that the biggest game to get over was tonight. But they are not counting their chips till - - they are not counting their chickens until they have them in the corral. So it is going to be another few days of suffering as they like to say, for the Spaniards. We'll see if they can finally do this.
ANDERSON: There will be stacking up the chips and the chickens. It doesn't matter where (UNINTELLIGIBLE) just hoping t that everybody else (UNINTELLIGIBLE) on Sunday. Good stuff, Al. Thank you so much.
Al Goodman from Madrid, reflecting what will be going on around Spain this evening. Scouting for star quality, they may be going home disappointed from this World Cup, but it is not for lack of planning. Up next we are going to meet the recruiters seeking out new talent to help the German national team, lift future footballing trophies.
This is CONNECT THE WORLD, stay with us.
ANDERSON: A noise now familiar to football fans across the globe. Vuvuzelas have provided what is the soundtrack, effectively, for the World Cup in South Africa. But many of the noise makers are actually made in China. Earlier this we gave you a glimpse inside the factories that churn out 20,000 of those horns a day. And you saw the special goal (ph) academies, this week as well, in Ghana helping to ensure the nation remains the football powerhouse of Africa for future generations. Both examples of how the beautiful game connects the world like nothing else.
Well, following football can be an emotional experience. It can make us cheer or even shed a few tears. Just ask German fans tonight. Luckily the National Football Federation already has its scouts out, though, searching for new stars able to take Germany to the next World Cup finals. Diana Magnay investigates the planning behind Germany's footballing prowess.
MAGNAY (voice over): Damon Schaft (ph) has done Germany proud this World Cup. The average age is 25 and it is the most diverse team in the tournament. Nearly half the players coming from immigrant backgrounds.
(On camera): Germany's matches against Australia and England especially where a joy to watch. Fans here saying it was like the perfect storm of German precision mixed with a hint of southern flair that players like Mesut Ozil have been showing on the pitch.
And though, Coach Joachim Low (ph) is good, there is a whole lot of scouting and training that precedes him, which turns a nation's footballers into stars. Junior Torunarigha plays in the under 23s on how to be a (INAUDIBLE).
JUNIOR TORUNARIGHA, HERTHA SC PLAYER: You have to train, like, everyday to work out in our goal, to become a professional players.
MAGNAY: Last year clubs in Germany's first and second divisions pumped $8 5million into youth training academies. That National Football Federation has made it a condition of a club's license that it sets up boarding schools for young players brought in from other clubs or from abroad. Frank Vogel, who runs Hertha's youth division says it is done with the same attention to detail that makes the national team so good.
FRANK VOGEL, HERTHA SC YOUTH COACH (through translator): I'm using a lot of people to look for talent. And a lot of people to develop them on a daily basis and that is done at a kind of concentration that I think is unique in the world today, certainly in Europe. Talent scout Wolfgang Damm spotted Jerome Batank (ph) and brought him to Hertha to play alongside his half brother Kevin Prince.
"I just had to see him to spot the star quality," he tells me.
Now, Kevin plays for Ghana and Jerome for Germany, though they are keeping their distance, after a tackle from Kevin took Captain Mikhail Ballick (ph) out of the Germany team. Still, the brothers are proof that talent development starts at the club level. And they area an inspiration to Hertha players, just like Phillip Lamb's boys, in South Africa.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Young players they are all on us, and they are playing very good, and they are trying very hard.
MAGNAY: A goal worth striving for. Diana Magnay, CNN, Berlin.
ANDERSON: Germans disappointed, of course, tonight, that the Spanish have beaten them, 1-nil in the semifinal. They now meet Netherlands on Sunday. In Brazil, as around the world, many kids dream of a career in top-flight football, but that passion can be put to use off the pitch as well on it. And tomorrow, on this show, CONNECT THE WORLD, we are going to visit a football program, kick starting education for some of the country's poorest kids and find out how the World Cup can inspire them to study subjects as diverse as music and geography.
Coming up tonight, though, football legend John Fashanu, Fash the Bash, will join us live, as our "Connector of the Day". He's going to give us his take on the World Cup this year. And his expert prediction for the Spain-Netherlands final, just ahead.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
ANDERSON: John Fashanu made his name playing English football clubs such as Wimbledon and Aspen Villa. Known by many as The Fash, he enjoyed a 20-year long career in the sport and played for more than 17. But his work since his playing days has pushed him further into the spotlight.
In addition to hosting a series of television shows, Fashanu set up his own charity trust and works in Ghana and Zambia to promote professional sports. Today, he's working as Nigeria's ambassador for sport and tourism. As the World Cup winds down, an insider gives us his final predictions. John Fashanu is your "Connector of the Day".
(END VIDEO CLIP)
ANDERSON: He's a good looking man in those shots, isn't he? Fash has been watching all of the action tonight from the African continent. And he joins us now, live, from Lagos in Nigeria.
I want to get the to, as quickly as possible, to that goal tonight. What did you think of the game as we played it out, Fash?
JOHN FASHANU, PROFESSIONAL FOOTBALLER: You know, Becky, the game was wonderful. I mean, that was an early World Cup, wasn't it? And Poyo's goal was a goal, and a fantastic goal. We've got to question ourselves, was there a penalty. What a goal. Look at that. That's as clean as you'll ever see. A great goal, a great player, remember that I didn't actually play against him but I've been eyeing him for a long time. And good luck to Spain. I think they deserve it.
ANDERSON: Yeah, what about the Germans? Disappointing for them, we are going to get the highlights out for our viewers as we talk. They've had a tremendous five out of six games, really. I mean, one not particularly good one. But you really would have marked them up to win this tonight ahead of the game, wouldn't you?
FASHANU: Yes, well, honestly. I mean, they all thought that. They've got a young team. They've got some wonderful players. I think we all -- I was just listening to Franz Beckanbaw (ph) talking to the squad of players -- they really have some players for the future. If they don't win it and they're not going to win the World Cup this time, I know in four years time, they're going to be coming back.
But you know, let's give Spain some credit as well. They've played a great game and at the end of the day, 90 minutes, it is who gets the goals.
ANDERSON: All right. Who is going to win on Sunday?
FASHANU: Oh, that is a difficult one. I would like to say Spain. Because I can see tactically, they are a very good side. They've got some wonderful players. And of course, I think you can see, they are an exciting team. And on the day, I think, tactically, they were better than Germany.
ANDERSON: All right. We've asked you. We certainly haven't had a chance to check in with Paul the Octopus. I don't know if you've heard of Paul the Octopus. This octopus has basically given some food and he chooses which food according to who he thinks is going to win each game. And he's been getting it right on the German games all the way along. He's a German octopus. And he pulled out Spain tonight. We haven't heard who Paul the Octopus is actually going to -- who he picks for Sunday.
But the Spanish fans, the pictures out of Madrid, tonight quit remarkable. I mean, you are suggesting that you think, you know, that in your heart you hope that Spain can do this. Do you think -- I mean, they've got some real stars in that team, haven't they? But they haven't necessarily played great football throughout the tournament, as many teams haven't, who got great starts. Why is that, Fash?
FASHANU: You know, Becky, you know, I'm pretty much found myself in the same situation many years ago. You everybody's playing a long season, domestically in Europe. Some of these players have played 60 to 65 matches. And they're exhausted. You know we put a lot of pressure on people like Wayne Rooney (ph), Renaldo (ph), so many different player, but we're forgetting it is the end of the season. They only have another two weeks break and they start the season again almost, training again. So it is a complete round, round, circle. And you can see the players are tired, physically and mentally.
ANDERSON: Sure and the video, I'll just say for our viewers, the video we were just seeing were the Spanish fans reacting. They certainly weren't tired when they saw that goal tonight.
Listen, let's look at some e-mail. Some Tweets that have been coming in for you tonight, and some e-mails.
Louise says, she just asks a simple question. She says, "A month ago who did you really think would win the World Cup?"
FASHANU: You know, I really desperately wanted an African side to win the World Cup. For the first time we had the honor of hosting the World Cup and I believed somewhere, maybe some might say I'm crazy, but I believed that Nigeria might be somewhere up there. I thought at least we had got to the World Cup, the quarter finals. But my money was on Brazil.
ANDERSON: All right. OK. "How do you think South Africa has done?" It is a question from JR. Overall, how do you think they've done in hosting this?
FASHANU: Well, Becky, would you like me to tell the truth?
FASHANU: Or do you want me to put a little bit of a slant on it?
FASHANU: Which one do you prefer?
ANDERSON: No, I want the truth from you this evening?
FASHANU: OK, well the truth is they weren't really up to the standard. And if they weren't hosting the World Cup I'm not actually sure they would have qualified normally. But you know the spirit was there. They've got young players. I doesn't look like they've played together for long. And they weren't really up to standard, as a World Cup team.
ANDERSON: I think you'd agree with most who say that South Africa have done a great job in hosting the tournament, though, wouldn't you? Yeah?
FASHANU: Oh, oh. Becky, possibly one of the best World Cup's ever. I understand the ticket sales have been second only to America World Cup. Wonderful.
ANDERSON: Amazing, 1994, I was there for that one, the Rose Bowl.
All right. Kingsley asks the question, getting a bit more specific. He says, "that the Nigerian Football administration, he says is a giant corrupt entity, that stains everything that comes in its way as the Nigerians' sports ambassador, what is your reaction to that? Do you agree? And what are you going to do about it?"
FASHANU: Well, Becky, I've got to be honest. You know, we have a new president in place. Good Luck Jonathan, who has been absolutely wonderful. The changes from the football, to the power sector, have been amazing. You know, and whatever we say, Mr. President has said there has to be changes. And part of the presidential task force, and we are not implementing changes with the Nigerian Football Association.
And things are going very, very well. But you will very soon see changes at the football grassroots level in Nigeria.
ANDERSON: Right, OK. And a question from Johnny, then, who writes in tonight. A question for you, he says, "Whether you think the football will improve and when?" I mean, how quickly can you get this game up to scratch and back into what should be a decent team for the international arena?
FASHANU: Well, Becky, one thing we don't lack is we don't lack talent in Nigeria. We have 150 million Nigerians and we have an abundance of amazing talent. Sometimes what we lack is organization and discipline. We're hoping now, with a new Nigerian Football Association, and obviously with a president who cares about football and has his eyes on football, I would think that in no longer than six or seven months we'll be back on the center stage again.
ANDERSON: Quick question from Jacob, for you tonight. He says, "What is your favorite moment in football? And, this is your career, "What was your worst?"
FASHANU: Favorite moment in football was winning the FA Cup in 1988, playing against the mighty Reds of Liverpool, and defeating them. That was a wonderful occasion.
And my worst and shall we say saddest moment was Ashton Villa, the last team I played for, against Manchester United. Ryan Gigs (ph) who is still playing. He actually kicked me and broke my leg. It was a complete accident and I've forgiven him, but I was never again in football.
ANDERSON: But you are still in it with the Nigerian team at this point. And good luck to you with that. We all really hope you can get some good going there and get back into some sort of fit state to keep going.
All right. John, thank you very much. And it is always a pleasure. John Fashanu, for you this evening, out of Lagos, Nigeria.
"Connector of the Day" tomorrow is another football legend, but a controversial one. His name is Mr. Graham Poll, and he is one of the most famous British football referees of all time. But a blunder in the last World Cup lead to his retirement. But we are going to ask him about that, and about some of the high-profile refereeing that we have seen in this year's World Cup.
And I'm going to ask him because I'm expecting those questions to come from you. It is your part of the show, remember. Head to the Web site, to get involved, CNN.com/connect. Give us your questions for Graham Poll. We'll put them to him tomorrow night.
Tonight, we will be right back.
ANDERSON: We've heard from the pros. Let's see how the fans are doing, shall we? Through the lens this evening, traditional custom. German supporters hoped history would be repeated, but it was not to be this evening. Happy smiles from these Spanish Red Devils, European champions with their sights now set firmly on Sunday's World Cup final.
If you missed the score, Spain beating Germany, 1-nil. They say the higher you climb the further you fall. Disappointment is written all over this fan's face. Uruguay was knocked out in the semifinal stages, of course, yesterday.
But the party continues in Holland. These are beaming Oranje fans at the final whistle yesterday. That's your World Cup in pictures this evening.
And here on CONNECT THE WORLD, we've watched each and every kick of the World Cup along with you at home, wherever you are. With the tournament coming to a close on Sunday it seems some of you are already looking to the future, finals. And a look at some of the comments that you have been leaving on the Web site.
Ricepice writes: "Does it have to end? See what we are missing America?" He adds, controversially, Let's take soccer and I'll trade you basketball, or baseball, sorry, NASCAR and mixed martial arts.
And anonymous from Europe, from the Netherlands, adds, "I hope one day an African team will compete in the final. Ghana proved to be a credible contender, as credible as Uruguay and I would not have been surprised if Ghana would have given the Netherlands plenty of trouble."
I have to say I agree with that one, yeah.
(INAUDIBLE) head to the Web site, CNN.com/connect. I'm Becky Anderson. That is your world connected this evening. From the team in London, it is a very good night. "BACK STORY" is up next, right after this check of the headlines.