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NANCY GRACE

Las Vegas Showgirl Vanishes

Aired December 20, 2010 - 20:00:00   ET

THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY BE UPDATED.


JEAN CASAREZ, GUEST HOST: We begin tonight with breaking news out of Nevada. A Las Vegas showgirl on the Vegas strip -- talk about beauty and brains, she was a former law student with multiple educational degrees and had been a Washington Redskins NFL cheerleader -- well, she pursues her dream, moving to Vegas and becomes a showgirl. That dream finally comes true. But on her way to rehearsals at the Luxor hotel and casino, she goes missing without a trace, the stunning Las Vegas showgirl last seen leaving her apartment just blocks from the luxury hotel, then she`s never seen again. Twenty-four hours later, her car is found abandoned in a vacant lot. Tonight, the mystery of a missing Vegas showgirl.

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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: (INAUDIBLE) let her be -- I can`t -- let her come home to us!

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Debbie Flores.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: An accomplished dancer and cast member of "Fantasy," the adult review at the Luxor.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Has been missing since Sunday evening.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: They`re pretty much doing forensics.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Her car was found off of Kerry (ph) and Lamb (ph).

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: There are some leads into a couple people.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: With the license plates missing.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: They`re kind of looking into every possible lead.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: They were going to do another rehearsal, and she just said, We`ll see you tonight. And that was it.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I can`t...

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CASAREZ: Good evening. I`m Jean Casarez of "In Session" on the truTV network, in for Nancy Grace. Thank you so much for joining us tonight. A beautiful Las Vegas showgirl living her dream at the Luxor hotel and casino when she finally disappears without a trace.

Let us go straight out to Alexis Tereszcuk, reporter with Radaronline. Alexis, what`s the latest tonight?

ALEXIS TERESZCUK, RADARONLINE.COM: Hi, Jean. This is a terrible tragedy. This girl, Debbie, has been missing for over a week. Her sister gave a heart-breaking press conference today, saying that she doesn`t believe that her sister just disappeared. This woman was last seen by her boyfriend. He says that she stopped by his house, she left, she was going to go back to rehearsals at the Luxor, where she was a dancer. She never made it there.

Now, the police have told us that he is not a person of interest, and in fact, is cooperating with them, but this is something that a lot of people are very concerned about, the sister now saying she thinks that her sister has, unfortunately, met with some foul play.

CASAREZ: Foul play. John Shaffer, program director at Newstalk 720 KDWN, what more can you tell us?

JOHN SHAFFER, NEWSTALK 720 KDWN: Well, we have learned late this evening that the Las Vegas Metro Police Department is going to hold a press conference tomorrow morning at 10:00 o`clock, their missing persons detail. So we will learn more then.

As we`ve heard, she was last seen by her boyfriend. She went to visit him between rehearsals for the show on Sunday night, the 12th. That is when she vanished. When she didn`t show up for work on the 13th, that`s when her co-workers said that is very, very unlike her, and that`s when people started getting worried. That`s when they started searching for her car, which was found later in the week with the license plates removed.

CASAREZ: Right. We do understand her boyfriend is cooperating with police. That is what they are saying. Let`s go back to Alexis Tereszcuk, reporter from Radaronline. Talk to us about her car because it was abandoned quite a ways away in Las Vegas from where she lives.

TERESZCUK: It was. It was really in a run-down neighborhood. A woman had seen it. She actually called the police. She reported the car abandoned. They didn`t come. They didn`t do anything. It wasn`t, apparently, a car that was listed as missing or stolen or anything. So waited (ph) there (ph). The woman then said she knows the license plates were taken from this car that was still in the same spot. She called the police again. They didn`t come out.

They finally came out a third -- after, I guess, a third phone call, and took the car. In the car, actually, we`ve heard that Debbie`s purse and her make-up bag were there. But it was an abandoned car. So this is something they`re definitely scouring this for evidence. This is a big thing, and it was missing for quite a few days. And even though the neighbor repeatedly called the police, they didn`t take action on this.

CASAREZ: Which is concerning as we think about that. But right now, we have a very special guest with us. This is a primetime exclusive tonight on NANCY GRACE. It is Celeste Flores-Narvaez. She is the sister of Debbie Flores-Narvaez. Thank you so much for joining us. We can`t imagine what you are going through in your heart and in your soul. What I want to ask you, what are the police telling you tonight?

CELESTE FLORES-NARVAEZ, SISTER (via telephone): Right now, they`re just following leads. They are basically taking things slow so they don`t miss nothing, not a thing. They`re just going through every possible lead, talking to individuals, and hopefully, gathering more information.

CASAREZ: Your sister`s car that was found abandoned in north Las Vegas. They have that car. Have they told you that they`re processing it for DNA and forensically, anything they can find?

FLORES-NARVAEZ: Yes. They told me that they did find the car, that they haven`t (INAUDIBLE) going to run forensics on it. They did find a small bag in the car. And that is confirmed the way that it was (ph) looked that it was a make-up bag and that they also are running it for DNA evidence. And they`re running through her phone records and things of that nature, her computer and everything, looking for clues.

CASAREZ: So they took her computer. They have her computer in custody?

FLORES-NARVAEZ: Yes, they do. They have everything that is pretty much of hers that may lead to some possible information and any leads. That`s correct.

CASAREZ: Celeste, we`ve heard that your sister sent your mother a text message at the beginning of December. Very concerning, this text message. What can you tell us about that?

FLORES-NARVAEZ: My mother did forward me the message. To me, I really am not going -- I really am not stressing too much about that message because the way the message was written, it didn`t make -- it`s kind of questionable. It didn`t make sense, in a way. I did tell the investigators this, as well, so they`re going to definitely look into that, as well. But to me, I`m kind of just dismissing that because it just doesn`t make any sense. And when, you know, when you`re in -- when you`re doing things or in a hurry and you`re texting, you sometimes tend to mess up the words. And really -- that really isn`t telling me exactly anything. It could be several things.

CASAREZ: You`re right. You`re so right. We want to show everybody this text message. Everybody, look at this. It says quote -- and this is a text message that Debbie Flores sent to her mother the beginning of December. She says, quote, "In case there is ever an emergency with me, contact Blu Griffith (ph) in Las Vegas, my ex-boyfriend, not my best friend."

Now, that can be interpreted a lot of ways, Celeste, because the first time I read it I thought, Ah-ha, the ex-boyfriend. But then I read it again and I said, No, no, not at all. She`s asking her mother to contact the ex-boyfriend. Now, first of all, did your sister have fear in her that something could happen to her? Because that`s what really stands out to me from this text.

FLORES-NARVAEZ: As far as I know, she never told me that she was going through any issues or stress. At the same time, she was -- you know, I work. I`m in a different time zone. I`m in Atlanta. She`s here. So it`s a three-hour difference. She works nights and she works days. So most of the time, if she did have any issues, she would tell me that she was having issues. I did know that, you know, she was going through a bad time through a couple things, but I really wasn`t well aware of exactly what it was.

CASAREZ: Now, are you talking about some financial issues that she was having?

FLORES-NARVAEZ: I`m not sure of that and really whether she was or wasn`t. That`s not the problem. Everybody`s going through financial issues nowadays. My concern is bringing her home. So financial issues does not matter to me. That doesn`t mean anything to me.

CASAREZ: Right. We`re trying to find out what could have happened to her because we want her to be reunited with you, Celeste. That is what we want.

We`re taking your calls live. Lakisha in Indiana. Hi, Lakisha.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Hi, Jean. How you doing tonight? Merry Christmas and happy New Year.

CASAREZ: Thank you. You, too, Lakisha. We want Debbie Flores- Narvaez to come home for Christmas.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Yes. I do, too. I`m sick of these men kidnapping women and killing them and hurting them. It just don`t make no sense. You know, the world is a very, very bad world nowadays. It shouldn`t be like this.

CASAREZ: This is a very big mystery, Lakisha, because this girl was a Las Vegas showgirl, highly educated girl. But fans would come to her show at the Luxor every night. And you also have people that are just, you know, fans that are too obsessed. That`s another possibility. What`s your question, Lakisha?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Yes, that`s what I was going to say, that I think it`s one of the customers. You know, they need to be looking at the video surveillance tape to see if anybody was following her and talking to her when she was working.

And also, I would like to know -- they said that the boyfriend was the last person to see her before she was missing. What type of timeframe do they have? Like, how many hours? And what is the timeframe the police have?

CASAREZ: Two good questions. First of all, John Shaffer, program director in Las Vegas at 720 AM KDWN. What about surveillance video? What have police told you that they are looking at as far as video surveillance?

SHAFFER: The police haven`t told us that they`re looking at anything. In fact, the police haven`t even said this is a criminal investigation yet. They still just consider this a missing persons case. So until we learn more from the police, until we find out if this does, indeed, become a criminal investigation not a missing persons police (SIC), the Las Vegas Metro Police Department`s not releasing much information. They`ve talked to the boyfriend. They say they`ve talked to a few other people. But they haven`t said any of those people are suspects.

CASAREZ: All right, Alexis Tereszcuk, reporter, Radaronline, tell us -- Lakisha wants to know this timeline. Go through the timeline with us.

TERESZCUK: So it was Sunday, December 12th, she had two rehearsals for the show. You know, she`s a really successful dancer in the burlesque show at the Luxor. So she went to one rehearsal. She then apparently went to her boyfriend`s house, or ex-boyfriend, however she`s describing him right now. She was there just for a little while, and then she left. He didn`t say that he was concerned with anything. She was, in fact, he said, going to her next rehearsal.

But she didn`t show up for this rehearsal. She didn`t come home that night. Her roommates didn`t call the police until the next day. They were thinking that perhaps that she had stayed with her boyfriend or something like that. So it was really just a short amount of time when somebody saw her, and then where she was supposed to be somewhere and she didn`t show up.

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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: It`s not her to go missing. It`s not her to go take a small vacation. She is OK. There`s no (INAUDIBLE)

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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We`ll see you tonight, and that was it.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Debbie Flores-Narvaez is an accomplished dancer and cast member of "Fantasy," the adult review at the Luxor. When the 31- year-old started missing practices and performances, the suspicion started building.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: It`s not her.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It`s a shock to the family.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: It`s not her.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I cried and shed the tears.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: It`s not her.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: One of the family`s missing.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: They had a rehearsal.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Police have issued a critical missing persons alert.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Her ex-boyfriend saw her...

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Debbie, last seen Sunday night.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Stopped by quickly at his place.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Debbie`s car found abandoned in Vegas.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: She was on her way back home.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Cops now combing through the vehicle for clues.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Let her go and let her be, and let her come home to us.

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CASAREZ: This is a professional dancer. She is a Las Vegas showgirl. She has her master`s degree and she was an NFL cheerleader, and she`s gone. She`s missing. She has to be found. Her car was abandoned in north Las Vegas.

And with us tonight -- I`m Jean Casarez of "In Session," in for Nancy Grace. With us tonight exclusively, primetime exclusive, is her sister, Mrs. Celeste Flores-Narvaez, the sister of the missing Debbie Flores- Narvaez. Celeste, I want to ask you, first of all, you said that her make- up bag was found in the abandoned car, her abandoned car. What about her purse?

FLORES-NARVAEZ: As far as I know, there was only a small bag in her car that was found. Investigators described to me the bag. I later on asked her roommates what her make-up bag looked like, and they described to me that make-up bag exactly. So that it was her make-up bag, it wasn`t her purse that was found.

CASAREZ: Do you know if she carried a purse?

FLORES-NARVAEZ: Yes. Of course. She did carry a purse, as well as her cell phone with her at all times.

CASAREZ: And that`s what I was going to ask you, cell phone. Where is her cell phone? Has it been found?

FLORES-NARVAEZ: As I know of right now, no. The investigators are pulling up her police -- I mean, I`m sorry, her phone records.

CASAREZ: OK. We had heard her cell phone was off. Is that what you had heard?

FLORES-NARVAEZ: Her phone was apparently on that night, but after work it was off. You know, during the time of her disappearing, the phone was turned off.

CASAREZ: Phone was turned off. Let`s go to Ron Shindel. He`s a former New York Police Department deputy inspector, joining us from New York. Ron Shindel, I want to ask you, if a cell phone is off, can you trace pings or location or anything at all?

RON SHINDEL, FMR. NYPD DEPUTY INSPECTOR: You can only trace up until the time they turn the phone off. Once the phone is off, it`s not emitting any power, no, you`re not going to be able to trace it.

CASAREZ: All right. Another question I want to ask you, this abandoned car -- it`s very mysterious to me. And you know, I`ve worked a lot of cases, and the Las Vegas Police Department are tremendous in their crime scene investigations. But this car stood in this area vacant for days before the Las Vegas police found it. Somebody had a key to drive it into that lot, that vacant lot. Somebody had a key. So where do police go in relation to that, and isn`t that a relevant fact?

SHINDEL: Well, the good thing about a car from an investigator`s point of view, it`s a vault of physical information. In the car, you`re going to find lots of shiny surfaces, which lead the a lot of fingerprints, the ability to capture all these fingerprints. Also, a car is going to hold hair samples. It may hold bodily fluid samples, like mucus and saliva or blood. And it stays in there. And a car is closed, for the most part.

So investigators will be able to go in there, use this physical evidence and maybe eliminate some people or identify some people who could have been in that car any time during this time, reach out to those folks, and then try to get a timeline. At least try to develop additional leads from that physical information.

CASAREZ: To Pat Brown, criminal profiler, author of "The Profiler," joining us tonight from Washington, D.C. You know, when we look at these cases, the first thing you have to do is look at the last person that saw the person that was missing. That`s the ex-boyfriend. But in this case, there are fans that could be obsessed. There are potential financial issues that can be motivating factors to leave an area. What are your thoughts as you see all these facts here?

PAT BROWN, CRIMINAL PROFILER: Well, I think the police, although they`re not saying it, probably do have the ex-boyfriend as a person of interest for a number of reasons. One is because he is an ex-boyfriend, and we all know that that often is -- you know, the person closest to the victim is the one who`s involved. Secondly, he was the last person to see her.

And it`s interesting because there wasn`t much time between where she supposedly stopped at his house and then went off someplace and didn`t show up. So we are really talking about a small period of time. Why was she there? And did she really -- nothing really happen to her at that place?

The third thing is that odd, peculiar message to the family. I think it really is important to find out, talk to all her friends, find out what could be the problem. It`s interesting they talked to the boyfriend about it, and he didn`t seem to say anything about what her problem was. And that`s suspicious to me, as well.

And when we take a look at where the car was, a lot of times, you find a car in an empty lot, you know, a good portion of the way across town and in kind of a bad area, you`re looking at somebody who`s dumped a car there because they want to, you know, have the police look that direction and not over to where they are. So the boyfriend`s a good suspect.

CASAREZ: And remove the license plates. Somebody came and removed the license plates.

BROWN: Well, either the person did it or dumped it, or it is possible, if you leave it there for a few days, somebody`s going to leave the license plates. I don`t know how long those license plates were actually gone.

CASAREZ: Right. Very desolate area, though. Not a lot of people in this area.

Let`s go to the callers. Heather in Kentucky. Hi, Heather.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Hi. How are you?

CASAREZ: Fine. Thank you for calling tonight.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: My question is MySpace. I know she`s (INAUDIBLE) If she has a MySpace, can they check her messages?

CASAREZ: You better believe they have got her computer. But guess what, Heather? There has been no activity on her social media accounts at all, MySpace and FaceBook, since she went missing.

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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Finding her. That`s my duty. It`s my job.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: It`s what any sister would do in the situation, fly across country to find your missing sister.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I`m going to do my part and do what I have to do to find her.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Las Vegas showgirl Debbie Flores-Narvaez has been missing since December 12th.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It comes to a shock to the family.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: From his home in Atlanta, Debbie`s father says their emotions are running high.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Her car was found Thursday night with its license plates removed.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: They`re kind of looking into every possible lead.

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CASAREZ: I`m Jean Casarez of "In Session," in for Nancy Grace tonight. Look at this girl. She`s 31 years old. She has already accomplished many dreams. But in one sense, her life is just starting. She was an NFL cheerleader for the Washington Redskins, but then she wanted to pursue her dream of real professional dancing, came to Las Vegas. She`s a Las Vegas showgirl, which is what Las Vegas is known for. Throughout the years, you go to Las Vegas, it`s the Las Vegas showgirl that has become that institution, in a modern revue at the Luxor hotel and casino on the Vegas strip.

And now, she`s gone. She was supposed to go to rehearsal at the Luxor. She never showed up. And they don`t know where she is.

I want to go to the lawyers right now. Randy Kessler, defense attorney out of Atlanta, Jason Oshins, defense attorney out of New York. Randy Kessler, last person to see her alive. Isn`t this always the way it is? The ex-boyfriend. Now, before we say anything, all right, they say he`s cooperated. In fact, she left a text to her mother saying, Contact him if anything happens to me. But what should he be doing now? Should he get a lawyer just to be safe?

RANDY KESSLER, DEFENSE ATTORNEY: Absolutely. He should be scared because he is absolutely the number one person that everybody is looking at. You know, there was that cryptic message, and you know, when we handle cases, defense cases or even family law cases, and a woman says, If something happens to me, this is who you look at, that`s where everyone looks. And we know it`s always the first person they`re going to look at.

I`m not saying he`s guilty. I`m not saying he should even be a person of interest. But he is definitely being scrutinized. He should have a lawyer. He should be scared because he might be wrongfully convicted or wrongfully accused, and get a lawyer so that he knows how to cooperate, when to cooperate, and how to do it right.

CASAREZ: Well, let`s show everybody the text message. Jason Oshins, I want to get your take on this because, look, she writes to her mother the beginning of December -- so it`s very recent -- quote, "In case there is ever an emergency with me, contact Blu Griffith in Vegas, my ex-boyfriend, not my best friend."

Is she pinning it on him or is she going the opposite, that it`s the best friend that she needs to be concerned about?

JASON OSHINS, DEFENSE ATTORNEY: Jean, that`s the key question. Texts read flat, just like a deposition. It`s real hard to examine the in-depth aspect of that. You know, I know we`d like to wind it up really quick, but we really need to be cautious, especially as defense counsel, to not misread that.

CASAREZ: And this is a real mystery. This makes it a real mystery.

OSHINS: No doubt.

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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Las Vegas police have issued a critical missing persons alert.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Where could Debbie be?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Just days later, Debbie`s car found abandoned in Vegas.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Let her come home to us, the people that she loves!

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UNIDENTIFIED REPORTER: Las Vegas showgirl --

UNIDENTIFIED REPORTER: A former NFL cheerleader.

UNIDENTIFIED REPORTER: Debbie Flores-Narvaez --

UNIDENTIFIED REPORTER: Has been missing.

UNIDENTIFIED REPORTER: She misses dance practice at the world famous Luxor Hotel and Casino on the Las Vegas Strip.

UNIDENTIFIED REPORTER: Her car was found off of Kerry and Lemm with the license plates missing.

CELESTE FLORES-NARVAEZ, SISTER OF MISSING VEGAS SHOWGIRL, DEBBIE FLORES-NARVAEZ: Can`t make anything of this right now. Just -- it`s not her.

UNIDENTIFIED REPORTER: The 31-year-old Narvaez was a dancer in the "Fantasy" show at the Luxor.

FLORES-NARVAEZ: This was her life. This is what she does is dancing. She left her career to follow her dream.

UNIDENTIFIED REPORTER: Debbie had had a career in finance. She moved to Vegas to dance and had just been given a dance solo in the Luxor show "Fantasy," something her sister says was a big deal for her.

FLORES-NARVAEZ: It`s not her to go missing. It`s not her to go take a small vacation like this.

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JEAN CASAREZ, GUEST HOST: I`m Jean Casarez of "In Session" on the truTV Network in for Nancy Grace tonight.

Do you know how many people would absolutely give their right arm to be an NFL cheerleader? She made it. She did it. She had a dream, a dream to dance, and she went to Las Vegas and she became that Las Vegas showgirl. She was supposed to go to rehearsal on Sunday night. She never made it.

I want to go out to Alexis Tereszcuk, reporter with Radaronline. Start from the beginning right now, because she didn`t make that rehearsal at the Luxor Hotel last Sunday, correct?

ALEXIS TERESZCUK, REPORTER, RADAROLINE.COM: You`re absolutely right, Jean. It was December 12th. There were two rehearsals that night. She went to one, she left, she went to her ex-boyfriend`s house, was there for just a short while, left. Was apparently on her way back to the rehearsal, never made it.

This really raised a flag with her boss as she`s reliable, she`s always on time. As you said, she has a new solo. It`s a promotion for her. Everything that she`s been working for.

She didn`t show up at home, her roommates finally called the police to report her missing. Her car was found abandoned. It`s been over seven days now, no sign of her whatsoever, and the police are finally speaking out and talking about things people can do to help, if anybody`s seen her, if anybody`s heard from her. Apparently nobody has in over a week.

CASAREZ: And her car was abandoned, it was found in an abandoned location in North Las Vegas.

To John Shaffer, program director of News Talk 720 KDWN. You know, John, I looked up the Luxor and you know if you want to go to this show at the Luxor it`s $69 a head. It`s expensive. This is a production with a lead vocalist, there`s a comedian, then you`ve got all the musical numbers involved in this.

She was last seen at the ex-boyfriend`s house but yet police are saying he`s cooperating.

JOHN SHAFFER, PROGRAM DIRECTOR, NEWS TALK 720 KDWN: That`s correct. And you`re right about the show, it is a big-time show on the Las Vegas Strip. It`s not a little production. It is something that she should and is very proud of being part of. Getting that solo that she was rehearsing for, but not showing up at rehearsal.

As you said, the ex-boyfriend Blu Griffith, he is cooperating with police. Police have not said that he`s a suspect because he`s cooperating. In fact, he even said he`s worried about her. He`s trying to not let his emotions show but he did say that she left his apartment that Sunday night right before she vanished, that he did see her alive and then no one has heard from her since.

CASAREZ: Never seen again.

We want to show everybody, this is video from Google of Debbie Flores- Narvaez dancing in the Luxor Casino`s "Fantasy" show. And with us tonight, exclusively, prime-time exclusive, is the sister of Debbie Flores-Narvaez, Celeste is with us tonight.

Celeste, thank you for your strength. We want the word out, we want everyone to see what your sister, your beautiful sister, looks like, to bring her back home to you, Celeste. Have you spoken with her ex-boyfriend at all? And what has he said to you?

FLORES-NARVAEZ: I spoke to him on Wednesday when I found out about this. I haven`t spoken to him since.

CASAREZ: What did he say?

FLORES-NARVAEZ: He did confirm to me that she did come by. They talked for a brief moment and apparently she was going to go back to her roommates and then to rehearsal.

CASAREZ: Did he say that they had had an argument or what did they talk about? Why did she even go there?

FLORES-NARVAEZ: He just told me that she missed the family that she wanted to basically -- well, basically she was upset about family, I guess, because of the holidays, we weren`t going to be able to be together because she was working throughout the holidays.

That`s pretty much it. He didn`t -- he didn`t say anything else. He did say that she did sit in the car for a couple of minutes before she left and apparently she got on the phone and that`s pretty much it.

CASAREZ: So it sounds like to me, Celeste, she was lonely.

FLORES-NARVAEZ: She could have been. She could have been. You know, but she does have a tight-knit family here in Las Vegas. Her friends and all these dancers out here, it`s a group of them, and it`s a family type of group, because they all have worked together or know each other through somebody else.

It is a very good connection. This was her family away from home. I confirmed and talked to another one of her good friends out here who welcomed her to come with her for the holidays, and she accepted.

CASAREZ: You know, Celeste, I know you`re in Las Vegas now. You are staying there until your sister is found. She is so beautiful and when I think about dreams -- you know, people try for things but your sister achieved. I mean, an NFL cheerleader? And she stayed in school at the same time?

That is quite a role model there. What was she like?

FLORES-NARVAEZ: Oh, she -- if she wanted it, she was going to get it. There was no stopping her. She always accomplished everything. She is really organized, I mean, to the point where she`s immaculately organized and neat and clean.

She`s a perfectionist but at the same time, she is goofy. She is funny. She will not let you cry or be down, and no matter what it was, if she could be there for you, she would be.

I have talked to a lot of her friends out here that have told me many stories, many stories of what she has done for them and I was just -- you know, amazed because that is Debbie. Debbie would make sure that she would give you her jacket off her back even if it was below zero degrees and you needed it.

CASAREZ: Wow.

Let`s go to the callers. Katherine in Louisiana. Hi, Katherine.

KATHERINE, CALLER FROM LOUISIANA: Hi, Jean. How you doing this evening?

CASAREZ: I`m fine. Thank you for calling.

KATHERINE: Everyone`s always talking about how ex-boyfriends or boyfriends are usually the suspect. With her being in show business like that, I wonder if the cops have ever considered like a jealous female that`s trying out for the same thing she`s doing, that`s wanting to do the same thing she`s doing?

CASAREZ: That`s a good question, though, Katherine. One of her friends did say that Debbie was concerned about obsessive fans, so that is very interesting right there.

To Leslie Austin, psychotherapist, joining us tonight out of New York. An obsessed fan. I mean there is someone on the big stage and you`re watching, that can be an issue with a lot of people that are in the spotlight.

DR. LESLIE AUSTIN, PSYCHOTHERAPIST: It sure can, particularly in a show like the one at the Luxor at Las Vegas. It`s very provocative, it`s very sexual, it`s very vibrant, and especially if she was a wonderful performer, there are a lot of people who have all kinds of fantasies and project on to those performers.

They don`t know they`re not relating to the real person, they`re relating to a performer, and my concern here is much more about a stalker, an obsessed fan who caught her by surprise. She doesn`t sound like the kind of person who would suddenly disappear or do something erratic. She planned, she accomplished. So my concern is that she was stalked or caught off-guard and just didn`t know what happened. And that`s a very big concern.

CASAREZ: And you know, Dr. Leslie Austin, listen to this. After the show there is normally a meet-and-greet so if you`re in the audience, you can actually meet the showgirls of Las Vegas in that show.

AUSTIN: Right. Right.

CASAREZ: Which gives that personal contact.

AUSTIN: Right. And you know it`s not just showgirls and dancers, although they`re particularly susceptible to that, because they are being so sexual. Look what happened to John Lennon with David Chapman, who was obsessed with him and shook his hand and got an autograph.

That kind of personal contact can be very risky, especially with those performers who are projecting a very sexual image. And again, many people see those performers and don`t realize that they`re not dealing with the real person, they`re dealing with a performance. And they may want more contact than is appropriate.

CASAREZ: And now we are dealing with a forensic investigation.

AUSTIN: Yes.

To Dr. Panchali Dhar, doctor of internal medicine, author of "Before the Scalpel," joining us out of New York.

Doctor Dhar, when you look at the forensics and the investigation now as they comb and get samples from that car, how will they match that to her DNA? Because they did get her DNA from her toothbrush and other items out of her apartment.

DR. PANCHALI DHAR, M.D., INTERNAL MEDICINE, AUTHOR OF "BEFORE THE SCALPEL": Well, you`re assuming that the car is part of a crime scene. It may or may not be. So of course her DNA is going to be in the car. She was driving the car.

They`re going to send it off to a lab, do a DNA analysis and match it to her. But they could also find the perpetrator`s DNA in there if there was violence like blood, semen, and send that DNA to a national DNA database to see if it matches a violent suspect that`s been a convicted felon in past.

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UNIDENTIFIED REPORTER: Debbie Flores-Narvaez is missing.

FLORES-NARVAEZ: I can`t think about getting upset about it or being emotional about it.

UNIDENTIFIED REPORTER: Celeste Flores-Narvaez tells us police are looking through phone records and retracing her sister`s steps.

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UNIDENTIFIED REPORTER: Deborah Flores-Narvaez --

UNIDENTIFIED REPORTER: Has been missing --

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Shock to the family.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: One of the family`s missing.

FLORES-NARVAEZ: Finding her. That`s my duty, it`s my job.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Want to make sure they`re OK.

UNIDENTIFIED REPORTER: Police are looking through phone records and retracing her sister`s steps.

UNIDENTIFIED REPORTER: Her car was found with its license plates removed.

UNIDENTIFIED REPORTER: An accomplished dancer.

UNIDENTIFIED REPORTER: They had a rehearsal.

UNIDENTIFIED REPORTER: She moved to Vegas to dance --

FLORES-NARVAEZ: It`s what she does is dancing.

UNIDENTIFIED REPORTER: A cast member of "Fantasy," the adult review at the Luxor.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: She just said we`ll see you tonight and that was it.

FLORES-NARVAEZ: Just let her go.

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CASAREZ: I`m Jean Casarez of "In Session" in for Nancy Grace tonight.

We have just gotten in our hands a criminal complaint. This is breaking news, affiliate KLAS out of Las Vegas is reporting that the ex- boyfriend in this case of Debbie Flores was actually charged with domestic violence allegedly against Debbie Flores in October.

He got a court appearance tomorrow morning. NANCY GRACE producers were able to confirm. Now Nancy`s producers have been calling the Las Vegas Police Department. They will not admit that he was charged with domestic violence. They will not deny it.

I want to go out to John Shaffer, program director in Las Vegas, News Talk 720 AM KDWN.

John, what do you know about this alleged domestic violence case from October?

SHAFFER: What we`re hearing, too, from this police account that has just been released or just been discovered, apparently during that altercation, the ex-boyfriend Blu Griffith, also known as Jason, grabbed her iPhone from Debbie, he threw it down, he pulled her hair, he knocked her down, kicked her, punched her.

Also in this police account, there is a report that Debbie was pregnant with his child at the time.

CASAREZ: All right. This is what we`re reading out of this complaint here. It says that Debbie Flores actually in October went to the home of a girlfriend or ex-girlfriend of the boyfriend, and there she is. She meets Griffith, the boyfriend at the time.

She -- Debbie Flores -- and the boyfriend start to get into an argument. He takes her iPhone but the net result is she`s got bruises in both of her legs and some of her hair has come out.

Let`s go to the lawyers. Randy Kessler, defense attorney out of Atlanta.

This doesn`t look good, Randy.

RANDY KESSLER, DEFENSE ATTORNEY: No, it doesn`t look good. Of course, you can`t be guilty of one crime because you did something in the past and he`s just accused of that thing in the past but, you know, this does change everything, because the investigators` worst problem would have been if this was a random crime.

And in Las Vegas, there are random crimes. People get drunk, people do crazy things, she`s a beautiful woman. This changes the game and makes him much more of a suspect and much more a person of interest.

CASAREZ: All right. But Jason Oshins, defense attorney, I got to side with the defense on this. I mean, just because they get into this domestic issue and there are felony charges that resulted from that, and it`s a romantic triangle, that`s what you see.

She goes over to the girl`s house, she`s upset, she gets in an argument with him, he then starts hitting, she ended up with two bruised legs, but does that make a killer?

JASON OSHINS, DEFENSE ATTORNEY: No. And as Randy said, and Jean, I appreciate the help on the defense side --

CASAREZ: Well, I`m not going to give you too much help. All right?

OSHINS: No, no, I`ll --

CASAREZ: Because Nancy is going to call me.

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CASAREZ: So you`re not getting too much help. Go ahead.

OSHINS: Yes, no doubt about it. But listen, you know, from the police perspective, they`re obviously looking back at this and the reason perhaps they haven`t released any information is that he was a significant target and they were aware of this.

And you know, despite what -- you know, going along with what Randy said, it certainly changes the playing field from their perspective. No, this doesn`t necessarily make a killer and a domestic incident doesn`t equal that, but certainly it gives rise to the entire situation now that he is.

CASAREZ: And he was the last person --

OSHINS: Absolutely.

CASAREZ: Possibly.

OSHINS: Yes.

CASAREZ: That saw her alive.

Let`s go out to Diane in Canada. Hi, Diane.

DIANE, CALLER FROM CANADA: Hi, Jean. I just wanted to let you know that you are one of my favorite reporters.

CASAREZ: Oh, thank you, Diane. You`re very kind. I only paid you $5 for that.

DIANE: Oh, good.

CASAREZ: What`s your question?

DIANE: Actually I would like to perhaps give the advice over to the sister that if she were to hire a private eye and also a very reputable psychic, if perhaps someone could help in that field.

CASAREZ: To Celeste Flores-Narvaez, who has been with us this hour exclusively, prime-time on Nancy Grace`s show.

Celeste, you know, so many ways you could go, a private eye, psychics are used. Were you aware of domestic violence charges against this ex- boyfriend, allegedly against Debbie?

FLORES-NARVAEZ: I did hear about that. You know, I will have to agree that everybody has been through their ups and downs in relationships. I don`t know what to think of that. I did find out she was pregnant as well. I also found out that, you know, there was another person involved in a third party relationship, but that really doesn`t mean anything to me.

The most important thing to me is that she`s found and she comes home and, you know, hopefully the investigators are definitely taking every single step possible into finding out who the person of interest is, and following all the leads.

CASAREZ: Celeste, was she pregnant when she went missing?

FLORES-NARVAEZ: No, she wasn`t.

CASAREZ: But she was pregnant this fall?

FLORES-NARVAEZ: Apparently so.

CASAREZ: OK. All right.

We want to tell everybody also, this ex-boyfriend is not a suspect. He is not a person of interest. Police have actually said he is cooperating with them, but the more facts we have, the more we can try to figure out what this is all about.

Let`s go out to Pat Brown, criminal profiler, author of "The Profiler." Have your thoughts changed in this hour?

PAT BROWN, CRIMINAL PROFILER, AUTHOR OF "THE PROFILER": Well, now it`s just getting worse toward the ex-boyfriend. I mean he becomes more of a suspect. There`s no way around that. Especially if she`s going to testify. We all know how that goes sometimes. You know the court date is approaching.

CASAREZ: Yes.

BROWN: And here`s the other thing. How do we know that she went to the boyfriend`s house? That`s something I`d like to know? So we have a cell phone record going back in forth between the two? Did somebody see her arrive at his home? Did anybody see her leave his home? Is there -- are there any cameras around?

So the question is, is it possible she went there and something happened or is it possible she never actually went there and he met her elsewhere? So we just don`t know that yet.

CASAREZ: You know, Pat Brown, you bring up a really, really good point. There is a court date. NANCY GRACE producers confirm, court appearance tomorrow, felony arraignment on these domestic violence charges, innocent until proven guilty, but you`re right, who would be the star witness? It would be Debbie Flores-Narvaez.

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UNIDENTIFIED REPORTER: Debbie, last seen Sunday night.

UNIDENTIFIED REPORTER: Las Vegas showgirl Debbie Flores-Narvaez --

UNIDENTIFIED REPORTER: Misses dance practice and a performance Monday at the world famous Luxor Hotel and Casino.

UNIDENTIFIED REPORTER: We say she was last seen with her boyfriend.

UNIDENTIFIED REPORTER: Her roommate calls cops Tuesday to report her missing.

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UNIDENTIFIED REPORTER: She`s a Las Vegas showgirl.

FLORES-NARVAEZ: This was her life. This is what she does.

UNIDENTIFIED REPORTER: A professional performer in Las Vegas, but tonight, Debbie Flores-Narvaez is missing.

FLORES-NARVAEZ: It`s not her to go missing.

UNIDENTIFIED REPORTER: Her sister vanished, so just what happened to a budding Las Vegas star?

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CASAREZ: Out to the callers, Beverly in Colorado. Hi, Beverly.

BEVERLY, CALLER FROM COLORADO: Hi, Jean. I`m always so pleased when you take -- when it`s you who takes over for Nancy.

CASAREZ: Thank you very much.

BEVERLY: You do such a great job.

CASAREZ: Thank you.

BEVERLY: Well, your late information has kind of changed my question, but I was wondering about the cell phone being turned off at a very relevant -- during a very relevant time. That to me is suspicious. And I`m wondering what the boyfriend does for a living and also what the father of her new baby does for a living.

CASAREZ: Hmm. Mm-hmm. Good question.

John Shafer, program director out in Las Vegas, 720 AM, KDWN. First of all, all right, the cell phone. What do you know about the cell phone? It was on, and then it was turned off. Do we know where it was when it was on?

SHAFFER: We know that she had it with her and we`ve also heard reports and also from her sister Celeste that she had spoken within her after she had been at her ex-boyfriend`s house. That`s how we do, indeed, know that he was the last person supposedly who saw her alive.

CASAREZ: So wait a minute. Who talked to her after she left the boyfriend`s house?

SHAFFER: We had heard reports that her sister Celeste had spoken with her later that evening after she had left the boyfriend`s house where she confirmed that she was, indeed, at his house that night between rehearsals.

CASAREZ: Wow. That is amazing, amazing information right there.

Press conference tomorrow morning, 10:00, Las Vegas Police Department. What do we expect going to say? Any scuttlebutt out there?

SHAFFER: You know, it`s -- I think it`s all changed now that we`ve learned this new information about the battery charges. I`m guessing that`s not a coincidence that that`s why it`s happening tomorrow at 10:00 a.m. after his arraignment at 8:00.

Hopefully, we will learn more information about him. And as to the caller`s question, Blu Griffith is an aspiring rap star.

CASAREZ: And he is not a suspect.

SHAFFER: No.

CASAREZ: Tonight, everybody, let us stop to remember Army Sergeant Andrew Wallace, 25 years old from Oshkosh, Wisconsin, killed in Iraq. He was awarded the Bronze Star, the Purple Heart, and the National Defense Service Medal.

A physical education teacher, he loved coaching little league. He was also an official for the Wisconsin Interscholastic Athletic Association. He was active in his church, in his community, a college scholarship has been created in his honor.

He leaves behind his parents, Janie and Pete, stepparents Joelle and Sue, five brothers, three sisters, and his widow, Angela.

Andrew Wallace, an American hero.

Thank you so much to all of our guests, to you at home. We`ll see you tomorrow night 8:00 sharp Eastern. Until then, good night, everybody.

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