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11-Year-Old Timothy Greene Missing in North Carolina; Girl Scout Lindsey Baum Missing in Washington
Aired January 17, 2011 - 21:00:00 ET
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Where were you the night Lindsey Baum disappeared?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Somebody has seen something, somebody has heard something. Somebody knows something.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Please bring my daughter home.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Here`s what detectives had to work with. Lindsey was last seen walking home from a friend`s house in McCleary.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It was still daylight outside.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Blocks from her home.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Wouldn`t stay out that late after dark.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: She never made it.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: No screams for help.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: No sign of Lindsey Baum.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: No screams or anything.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Police, volunteers and search dogs.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Scouring the woods. Divers searching under water.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Detectives don`t know what happened.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: No suspect named and a limited list of persons of interest.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: How did she vanish without a trace?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: We want people to see who she is. We just want her back.
NANCY GRACE, HOST: Tonight, NANCY GRACE: AMERICA`S MISSING. Every day, 2,300 people go missing in America, disappear, vanish. Their families left waiting, wondering, hoping, but never forgetting. And neither have we. 50 people, 50 days. For 50 nights, we go live, spotlighting America`s missing children, girls, boys, mothers, fathers, sisters, brothers, grandparents. They`re gone, but where?
Tonight, a 10-year-old girl, a Washington Girl Scout, Lindsey Baum, vanishes into thin air after leaving a little friend`s house, just before her 11th birthday, never seen again. Police and FBI searching homes and storage facilities as grainy surveillance video emerges from a local gas station. Is there finally a break in the case?
But first tonight, breaking news, live, North Carolina, an 11-year-old boy goes missing from his own home. Out to Marlaina Schiavo on the story. Marlaina, what happened?
MARLAINA SCHIAVO, NANCY GRACE PRODUCER: Nancy, the parents of 11- year-old Timothy Greene are desperately searching for him. He was at home at 9:00 a.m. when his father left for work, and then by 10:15 when his brother got up, he was gone. No trace of him anywhere. And the troubling part is that the father said he did not take any belongings with him, which indicates that this was not a planned leaving on Timothy`s part.
Now, there has been one update today. We just got right before we came to air, there was some surveillance video at a local convenience store that may be Timothy. The parents were asked to come down by police to view the video. They said they couldn`t really make it out, but they spoke to a teacher who also viewed the video, and they think that this could be Timothy traveling with two other boys. And now the police would like to talk to the parents of those boys.
GRACE: The tip line, 704-638-5333. This is the Salisbury Police Department. We`re talking about a little boy, just 11 years old. He goes missing. Name, Timothy, answers to Tim. Take a look. He is 4`7, just 75 pounds. He`s got a little mohawk. He was wearing a gray hoodie and gray sweatpants over red and blue shorts. He may be wearing white and blue sneakers. Family says he is grieving over the death of his mother. Help us! Look.
Tonight, police searching, grainy surveillance video emerges from a local gas station. To Jean Casarez. What do you know, Jean?
JEAN CASAREZ, LEGAL CORRESPONDENT: Well, Nancy, this is urgent. This little boy is surviving in cold, cold weather, and he needs to be found. And what makes this so sad, as you were saying, is that his own biological mother passed away a year and a half. Before she died, she told the couple that ultimately adopted him to please take him in and to help him find a family. They adopted him, but he`s not over his own mother`s death. That could have been a motive for him to leave his home this morning.
GRACE: Everybody, we`re taking your calls live. 50 nights, we go live, looking for 50 people. Many of the cases cold, some warm, some red hot.
As we go to air tonight on a missing Girl Scout Lindsey Baum, we get information about this little boy, James Timothy Greene, goes by the name Tim. He is age 11. Take a look. The tip line is 704-638-5333.
Marc Klaas, president and founder of KlaasKids Foundation, what do we do, Marc? What do you make of the circumstances under which he went missing?
MARC KLAAS, KLAASKIDS: I`ll tell you what needs to be done. Law enforcement has to get flyers of this little child out to every other law enforcement agency, media outlet, convenience store, fast food outlet, malls, strip mall. So that they can place it in their window. And if there`s another such sighting, they`ll maybe be able to bring this boy home and give him the help that he needs.
GRACE: To Sheryl McCollum, crime analyst, director of Cold Case Squad. This case is still hot. What should police do?
SHERYL MCCOLLUM, CRIME ANALYST: They`re doing the right thing, Nancy. They`re following up on every single lead. And frankly, you`re doing the right thing, letting people see his face, knowing where he may be. The other thing, following up with the teacher, that was brilliant, brilliant.
GRACE: OK. Back to Marlaina Schiavo, before we go to the Lindsey Baum case. Rehash. I want to hear exactly what you know about this 11- year-old boy.
SCHIAVO: Well, like you said, he lost his mother and he was grieving, so they think that he might have left to maybe go look for relatives on the mother`s side. However, Nancy, police have talked to relatives in the area and they haven`t found him yet and no one has seen him. He was at home at 9:00 a.m. His father went to work. His brother got up at 10:15 and noticed Timothy wasn`t there. His father contacted people at the school that he goes to. We`re trying to figure out if he went to go play with someone. And then police said at 2:00 p.m. they got the call, they`ve been looking for him ever since.
GRACE: Tip line, 704-638-5333.
And now we go live on the case of Lindsey Baum. Take a listen.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: To me, it`s quite frustrating. I know that the law enforcement is doing everything they possibly can. I mean, if anybody saw anything that night, I just wish they`d come forward.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Or heard anything. They might not even realize that they saw or heard something significant. It could be anything. A strange car driving through town that you`ve never seen before, or somebody that looked kind of out of place or somebody that you know, your neighbor may be acting a little suspicious or maybe had clawmarks on their face. You know, Lindsey has very long fingernails and she`s not afraid to use them as a weapon. Anything could mean everything to finding our daughter.
I just, I want to say to whoever has my daughter to please just let her go. I don`t -- I don`t care who you are. I don`t care where you are. I just want my daughter back. And if you would just drop her off in a public place or call me and I`ll meet you somewhere, I don`t care, I just want my daughter back.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Please, just bring my daughter home. You know, give us peace of mind. Let her go unharmed. Thank you.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Getting worse and worse every day that goes by. I still feel in my heart, I know she`s alive, but every day that goes by is just agony.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
GRACE: To just disappear, your child, your daughter. A lot of people have given up, but not her family. Tonight, her mother is joining us live, but first to Jean Casarez. Jean, I want to go through the details of Lindsey`s disappearance.
CASAREZ: Well, it all began when she left home to go visit a friend, go to a friend`s house to play. She was at the friend`s house for only 10 to 15 minutes, and the father of the little play friend said, you know, you need to go back home. And, remember, this is western Washington, so in the summer months, June 26th, actually, 2009, she -- it was daylight at 9:00 when she probably about left that little play friend`s house. At 9:15, she was spotted by a motorist that knew her about halfway home, but she never got home. She never returned. And that is when her mother got into action and called the police that night.
GRACE: Jean, how far away was the little friend?
CASAREZ: Nancy, it was about four blocks away. That close. Very close. And this is a very small town. Nancy, the police force in McCleary, Washington, four. They had four in their police force when this happened. So it was a relatively crime-free area, small-town America.
GRACE: She only had two blocks to go. We are taking your calls. Out to Doug McDowell, morning host, KBKW News/Talk. He`s joining us from Aberdeen. Doug, thanks for being with us. I`m sure you recall when Lindsey Baum went missing.
DOUG MCDOWELL, MORNING HOST, KBWK NEWS/TALK: Oh, absolutely. It was big news here, and the whole, all of Grays Harbor was just kind of struck by the seriousness and how quickly she just vanished into thin air. And the thing is, is this hasn`t stopped. People are still concerned. I have the sheriff on my show once a month, Sheriff Mike Whelan, Grays Harbor County sheriff, and each time we have him on, we kind of recap what`s happened so far. And it`s really amazing that with all the tips that have been coming in and the FBI helping as well, they haven`t been able to locate her or the assailant if she was, indeed, abducted or whatever happened. It`s just like she disappeared into thin air.
GRACE: Out to the lines. Amanda in Wyoming. Hi, Amanda.
CALLER: Hi, Nancy. How are you?
GRACE: I`m good, dear. Thank you for calling. What`s your question?
CALLER: You know, there`s so many people in the cities nowadays, and to think that nobody has seen her is -- it`s hard for me to believe.
GRACE: You know, I agree. And I`m just looking at these photos, Amanda in Wyoming, and I just saw the picture of Lindsey Baum in the car seat, asleep. Now, that`s love. When you are looking at your child asleep and they`re so -- you love them so much, you just have to take a picture of them.
CALLER: I completely agree. I have three children myself, and two step children and one of my own. To tell you that the thought of somebody not seeing my child walk home from school or not seeing my child walk home from a friend`s house is very frightening to me. There should be -- there`s somebody out there that knows, that saw what happened to that little girl. I guarantee it. They`re just not saying anything because they`re afraid to say it nowadays.
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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Lindsey didn`t run away. She was taken. There`s no doubt in my mind. She didn`t run away. And if she has the opportunity to get to a phone or to get away, she`s going to come home or she`s going to call 911 or she`s going to call -- the only number she knows by heart are my home phone and my cell phone, and she does not have her cell phone with her. So if she gets the opportunity to call, it`s going to be one of those numbers.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We`re trying to get information about the missing girl.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: 10-year-old Lindsey Baum was last seen walking home from a friend`s house.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: She was supposed to walk five blocks to get home. She never made it the half mile to her house.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I still feel in my heart, I know she`s alive.
We`re not giving up on her.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: How could nobody see anything?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Searchers retraced the girl`s last known steps.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We are not able to rule anything out.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Police, volunteers and search dogs have been looking for Lindsey.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We have no evidence to point us in any specific direction.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Vanished out of thin air is what it appears to be. There`s nothing.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I`ve tried to keep the thought of somebody grabbing her out of my mind. She wouldn`t stay out that late after dark. She doesn`t like to be outside by herself.
And if somebody does have her, I wish they would just drop her off somewhere where she can get to a pay phone and call 911 or call home so that we can come and get her.
GRACE: 50 nights, 50 of America`s missing. 2,300 people go missing in America every single day. Mothers, fathers, boys, girls, your children and grandparents, gone. Many people give up. Their families still hoping for the best.
Tonight, we are taking your calls. The spotlight tonight on Lindsey Baum. She left just before her 11th birthday, just around the corner, just four blocks away to a little friend`s house.
Joining me right now and taking your calls live, Melissa Baum, this is Lindsey`s mother.
Melissa, thank you for being with us. What can you tell us about the day Lindsey went missing?
MELISSA BAUM, MOTHER: It was just a normal, beautiful sunny day. They`d just gotten out of school for the summer, and she was swimming over at a friend`s house with quite a large group of their friends, and she had come in to take a shower and was going to run down to her best friend`s house along with her friend to get some clothes for her to spend the night. And 30 minutes later, they weren`t back yet. So I tried calling the friend`s house and found that Lindsey had left about 15 to 20 minutes prior to that. And she just never made it home.
GRACE: What time of the day or night was it?
BAUM: She -- it was about 9:15.
GRACE: Was it still daylight?
BAUM: It was. Otherwise she wouldn`t have left the house at all. But it was still daylight, and it actually didn`t get dark until a little after 10:30 that night.
GRACE: Now, Melissa, you`re saying that she left to go get some clothes for another little friend and she left with someone?
BAUM: She left with a group of friends, to include her brother and her best friend that was going to spend the night.
GRACE: What happened to them? When did they peel off?
BAUM: At some point on the way to her friend`s house, they all kind of dispersed, and my son had come home. And Lindsey and Mikaela (ph) went on to her house. And I guess Lindsey was just over there for just a few minutes, and something happened where Mikaela wasn`t able to spend the night after all, and so Lindsey headed home by herself.
GRACE: And how long --
BAUM: And didn`t make it.
GRACE: -- would that walk take, what, 10 minutes, 15 minutes?
BAUM: At the most, oh, no, no more than ten minutes.
GRACE: And when did it strike you that she was gone?
BAUM: I knew something was wrong by 10:00 when we couldn`t find her, even though I kept thinking maybe she had gotten sidetracked and -- or ran into another friend and was maybe up at the park or, you know, somewhere right there close by and just not paying attention to the time. But we were out looking for her and calling her friends, trying to find her. But by the time dark set in, I was -- I was in a panic. I knew she`d be home before dark. She wouldn`t stay out past dark.
GRACE: The tip line, 866-915-8299. There is a $30,000 reward. Somebody out there knows where this little girl is. This little Girl Scout who has gone missing.
Take a look at Lindsey Baum, at 10 years old. 4`9, 80 pounds, brown hair, brown eyes. Was wearing a light blue hooded pullover shirt and blue jeans. Only went four blocks. And when she was spotted by a neighbor, she was just two blocks from home.
Back to Lindsey`s mom, Melissa, with us tonight. Melissa, who else was at home that night?
BAUM: Just myself and my son.
GRACE: And how old is your son?
BAUM: At the time, he was 11. 12, sorry. He was 12.
BAUM: He`s 14 now.
GRACE: When it got to be 10:00, Melissa, what did you do?
BAUM: It was shortly after that that we contacted law enforcement.
GRACE: So let me get this straight. What time did she leave Mikaela`s house?
BAUM: She left Mikaela`s house about 9:30.
GRACE: So about 9:30, she was to walk home, just four blocks, still daylight. At 10:00, you knew it was all wrong.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: What I`m here today to do is to appeal to everybody out there watching, please bring my daughter home.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Where is Lindsey Baum?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: She was taken just a short walk from her friend`s house to her home in McCleary, Washington. She never made it.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Nothing that was found on the computer or on her cell phone has led to anything definite.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: If you know anything, contact the hot lines, contact any 911 centers.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It has afforded us the opportunity to talk to some more people.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Please, bring my daughter home.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: But nothing specific about her disappearance.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
GRACE: She only had two blocks left to get home. It was broad daylight in the summertime, just two blocks away from her mother, who was waiting for her with open arms.
We are talking about a little Girl Scout, Lindsey Baum. Take a look. There is a $30,000 reward. Her family has never given up. Tip line, 866- 915-8299. We`re taking your calls live. To Jessica in Kentucky. Hi, Jessica.
CALLER: Hello. I understand and I want to say my heart goes out to the family. But even though it was daylight, could it have been kind of dark? Because I know in summertime, you know, when it`s still light, it`s still kind of dark, and for it to be, you know, five blocks away -- I have a 10-year-old daughter. She`s not allowed out of my sight because it`s getting so bad out there. I won`t even let her walk home from the bus stop because you never know what`s going to happen. But could it be that, you know, maybe it wasn`t as bright as, you know, like, sunny, sunny day? It could have been...
GRACE: Let`s find out. Let`s go to Melissa Baum, this is Lindsey`s mother joining us from McCleary, Washington. Melissa?
BAUM: It wasn`t, like, sunny bright, no, but it was still perfectly daylight out. But the point was she wasn`t supposed to walk home by herself. She just did it, rather than calling me.
GRACE: She was supposed to come back with her little friend, Mikaela.
GRACE: To Sheryl McCollum...
BAUM: And Mikaela wasn`t able to...
GRACE: You go ahead. Go ahead, Melissa.
BAUM: I was just going to say because -- when Mikaela wasn`t able to come back, Lindsey should have called me, but for whatever reason, she didn`t. She just left the house and walked home.
GRACE: Crime analyst, director of Cold Case Squad, Pine Lake PD, author of "Cold Case: Pathways to Justice." Sheryl McCollum, help us out.
MCCOLLUM: Nancy, there`s absolutely no physical evidence in this case. That`s one of the factors that law enforcement is having to deal with. They have nowhere to turn. They`re waiting on somebody to come forward. And that is, again, the reason this show is so vital tonight.
GRACE: Which means to me she was taken by car two blocks from her parent`s home.
GRACE: Now, what do we know about the neighborhood? The area? Was it near an interstate? Was it near a shopping center? What do we know about the neighbors surrounding her? These are the questions we have got to look at, in the search for 10-year-old Girl Scout Lindsey Baum.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: A 10-year-old girl vanishes just blocks from her home. Her mom says someone kidnapped her. Where is Lindsey Baum?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: How did she vanish without a trace?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: We just know that she was coming back from her friend`s house and did not come home.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Every passing hour, new worries that the friendly girl who would talk with anybody is in serious trouble.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Relentless search to find her, special plane equipped with heat-sensing cameras, scouring the woods, divers searching under water, sniffer dogs covering the ground.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Police haven`t found any evidence to explain her disappearance, and her dad is getting desperate.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Please, if anybody knows anything, even if you don`t think it`s important to you, it may be very beneficial to this case in bringing Lindsey home.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
GRACE: We`re going to take you right back to the case of the missing 10-year-old girl scout out of Washington, Lindsey Baum. Joining us is her mother. But first, we are just getting in information now that we have put up the tip line, the number and our e-mail, we`re getting information from all across the country. Take a look at Maiah Sylvester, 12 years old, 5`2", 130 pounds, blue hooded sweatshirt, blue jeans, brown boots, last seen by mother.
She was taking out the trash outside her own home, New Orleans. Out to Natisha Lance on the story. Natisha, what can you tell me about Maiah Sylvester? She`s just 12 years old.
NATISHA LANCE, NANCY GRACE PRODUCER, COVERING STORY: She`s just 12 years old, Nancy. She has not been seen since yesterday shortly before 6:00 p.m. Just as you said, she was taking out the trash. The garbage made it into the trash, but Maiah did not make it back into the home. Her mother thought that she was back in the house, but then later realized she was not there.
Now, what we have found out at this point is that friends of Maiah have now come forward and told her mother that she had met someone on Facebook. She had been communicating with a man. The mother believes that he`s an older gentleman but does not think that they had made contact, and she does not think that they had a long-term relationship going on. But New Orleans police is urgently asking for the public`s help to take a look and see if we can find Maiah Sylvester.
GRACE: Marc Klaas, this just happened Sunday. This girl statistically could very well still be alive. Explain.
KLAAS: Well, of course, she could be alive. And in fact, the vast majority of missing person cases, Nancy, do end successfully. The victim or the missing person is found and reunited with their family. They have to look at the electronic -- the electronic evidence in this case. They have to find out if, in fact, this girl`s MySpace or Facebook page is connected with an older guy and follow those leads, because you don`t just walk out your back door, empty the garbage and disappear.
It seems to me that there is some kind of a plan behind this, and obviously, they have to work very quickly to get this girl home as quickly as possible.
GRACE: You know, I don`t get it, Caryn Stark. Older guys, 12-year- old girls, Facebook. Explain.
CARYN STARK, PSYCHOLOGIST: Well, Facebook is perfect for someone who`s a child molester, Nancy. We were talking about the whole idea of have things really gotten worse, remember, one of the callers said that?
STARK: And, in part, there is more media attention, but there is the internet. There`s much more availability for people who are interested in 12-year-old girls or 11-year-old girls to be able to track them and communicate with them and get what they`re looking for even if we know that it`s the wrong thing to do. Kids are too young and too innocent to understand that.
GRACE: You know, she may very well not have known to whom -- with whom she was communicating online. Everybody, we`re talking about a 12- year-old little New Orleans girl. Take a look at Maiah Sylvester, 5`2", just 130 pounds, 12 years old, went to take the trash out, just yesterday. And practically, the last 24 hours, she`s gone. Her mother needs help tonight.
Tip line, 504-821-2222. That`s the New Orleans Police Department. Unleash the lawyers. Anne Bremner, high profile lawyer out of Seattle, Randy Kessler, defense attorney, Atlanta. Anne Bremner, if this is connected to someone she`s met online, an adult online, he has left an electronic trail a mile wide.
ANNE BREMNER, DEFENSE ATTORNEY: He has. And that`s the problem. There`s also a lot of e-crimes as we call them with, you know, criminal impersonation and everything else, but, like they said, in the social network, you don`t write in pencil on the internet, it`s in ink. And it`s indelible ink, and so, there`s quite a trail out there.
GRACE: And to you, Randy Kessler, something Marc Klaas said was extremely interesting. What he said about the timing. You know, I`ve always said there`s no coincidence in criminal law, Randy Kessler. The fact that she walks out of the door to go take out the trash and then boom, she`s gone. Does that mean she thought she was hooking up with a little friend online, or does it mean this little friend online was sitting there like a hawk, a bird at prey, outside of her door and saw her come out?
RANDY KESSLER, DEFENSE ATTORNEY: Well, it could be a combination of both. It`s no defense. It doesn`t get the criminal off the hook if he did something wrong. But, you know, that`s why they`re going to interview the mother and say, did she seem anxious to take out the trash? Was it something that kids don`t like taking out the trash? I didn`t like taking out the trash, but if she was a little more eager to say, mom, I`ll do it. You know, is there something I can do, that may give a telltale sign. But you got to look at every single thing. If there`s a guy that did something wrong, that is not a contributory part on her part. He`s guilty.
GRACE: Absolutely not. Absolutely not. She`s just a child. She`s not held accountable for her actions in a case like this. To Jean Casarez, what more do you know, Jean?
CASAREZ: You know, I think what we don`t know is critical here. Did this person that she was communicating with know where she lived? I think that`s something that investigators are going to look for because she took the trash out last night, Nancy, Sunday night at 6:00 p.m. and never heard of again. I think everybody needs to remember she was wearing a blue hooded sweat shirt, blue jeans, brown boots and she`s 5`2", 130 pounds and only 12 years old.
GRACE: Tip line, 504-821-222.
And now, back to Lindsey Baum, the missing Girl Scout. Take a listen.
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BAUM: We want to keep her face out there. We want people to see who she is. And just to appeal to whoever has her or if you know somebody that does have her, if you suspect somebody that may have her, we just want her back. We just, we love her and we miss her so much. And every day without her is absolutely unbearable. We just want her back. That`s all we want right now is we just want her back and want her back safe.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
GRACE: We are talking about a 10-year-old little cheerleader. She was just two blocks away from home when she was last spotted. Her mother is taking calls live, along with the rest of the panel. Out to the lines, Dorothy in Arizona. Hi, Dorothy.
DOROTHY, ARIZONA: Hi, Nancy. Hi, first, I`d like to say I`m really sorry to hear, you know, what the parents are going through, but my question is why did they rely on the child to make sure that she would call or something like that before she left the other friend`s house? Because I know, like, with my kids when my daughter would go up the street, her best friend was three blocks away, and if one of my friends couldn`t take her, we had a game plan where I would stand outside, watch her walk up to the corner, and the neighbor on the corner would come out, I`d call her, she`d watch her go around the corner until she made it to the other girl`s house.
GRACE: You know what Dorothy, that`s a really good idea. I want to go to Marc Klaas, president and founder of Klaaskids Foundation. You know what, would have, could have, should have. Isn`t it true that when a child goes missing, the parents beat themselves up? I could have done this, I should have, I would have. It doesn`t matter. There was a predator looking for this girl. She was supposed to walk home with her friend, Michaela. That`s the plan. They had a plan in place. But she`s 10. She didn`t follow the plan.
KLAAS: And Melissa understands this and realizes that this perfectly illustrates that little kids should not be out walking alone. They should always be with another person simply because there`s strength in numbers, and it`s a good idea for kids 10 and over to have cell phone. You know, cell phones keep you connected, and they`re also GPS compatible. So, if there is an emergency, theoretically, you would be able to follow that. Now, Nancy, I`ve been to McCleary. I know this area a little bit. And I can tell you that it`s a very small cutoff community.
There are no attractions there. It`s completely surrounded by the rainforest. You can stand in the middle of town, and you`re really no more than 200 yards from the rainforest in almost any directions. There`s about 1, 500 people that live there. Not a lot of people come there that don`t belong there. I think there`s two possibilities here. I think the first possibility and the most likely one is that she is a crime victim and that the person that committed that crime is probably within, lives within a block or two of where Lindsey live. The other possibility is that she ran away.
GRACE: To Dr. Panchali Dhar, it`s been a year and a half. Can we determine cause of death if her remains are found?
DR. PANCHALI DHAR, MD, INTERNAL MEDICINE: Well, if she was strangled, that would be difficult to do because she`s completely skeletonized. Now, let`s say the bones have fractures or dents, then, it would mean that there was a blunt instrument used or some kind of trauma was done to her.
GRACE: We are hoping to bring Lindsey home alive to her mother, Melissa, who is joining us tonight.
As we go to break, please, help us find another of America`s missing. Jennifer Pool, 39 years old, vanishes April 28th, 2010, Bay Shore, New York. White, female. 5`6", 140 pounds, brown hair, brown eyes. Take a look. Tattoo on neck says "Joey." If you have information, please call 800-220-8477. If your loved one is missing and you need help, go online, CNN.com/NancyGrace. Send us your story. We want to help.
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SCOTT BAUM, FATHER OF MISSING 10-YR-OLD GIRL, LINDSEY: My name`s Scott Baum. I`m Lindsey`s father. I`m in from Tennessee. What I`m here today to do is to appeal to everybody out there watching, please bring my daughter home.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
GRACE: We are taking your calls in the search for a missing 10-year- old girl scout out of Washington. Lindsey Baum last seen only two blocks from her mom`s home. Out to the lines. Christine, Louisiana. Hi, Christine.
Hi, dear, what`s your question?
CHRISTINE, LOUISIANA: My question is, when Lindsey was swimming at these people`s homes, my thing is the people that allow her to swim there, they took control over her safety. And when it was time for her to go home, whether it was day or night, an adult should have been monitoring her going, making sure that this child gets back home safe. That was not done. And my question is, why wasn`t that done?
GRACE: You know what, that`s a really good point. I want to go out to Melissa Baum. This is Lindsey`s mother. What did the family say?
BAUM: Well, the family -- they feel horrible. I hold no blame to them, no. At this point, I could blame myself, I could blame them, I could spend the rest of my life putting blame. The fact is, it happens. And ultimately, the only person who blame is the person who stole my child. And I just can`t live full of the anger and frustration and blame. I have to get through each day, and I have to find my daughter. And I speak to their -- her parents on a regular basis almost every day.
She`s become quite a good friend of mine. And I know the guilt she feels and it -- hindsight`s 20/20, and if you have ever lived in a town of 1,400 people, you know, and you can see from one end of the street to the other, basically, you just get caught up. You develop a false sense of security without even realizing it. So, no, she shouldn`t have been home. And she did have a cell phone.
But none of us knew at the time that she had left it at home on the charger which was all the more proof that Lindsey intended on coming straight back because she didn`t walk out the door, she didn`t leave her bedroom without her cell phone in her hand.
GRACE: We are showing shots of Lindsey now. There is a $30,000 reward. Out to the lines. Samantha in Maryland. Hi, Samantha.
SAMANTHA, MARYLAND: Hi, Nancy. Thank you for taking my call. My question this evening is, is there any other video, surveillance, anywhere she could have been? Maybe with a certain someone or anything out there other than the gas station?
GRACE: Let`s talk about the gas station video. What do we know? Out to Doug McDowell, morning host KBKW Newstalk. What can you tell me about this surveillance video, and what about searching a storage facility?
VOICE OF DOUG MCDOWELL, MORNING HOST, KBKW NEWSTALK: Well, with the video, I think that`s the only one that exists, the one that was taken at the Shell station. I believe one of those people came and identified themselves. And then, in July, the Grays Harbor County sheriff`s office, they were searching in McCleary for the missing girl, of course, Lindsey Baum. And under Sheriff Rick Scott told the (INAUDIBLE) that they were searching a house and they also searched a storage area and they turned up no smoking gun or red flag to, quote, "Scott," (ph) when they made this search.
But then, they did something else, too, and the FBI had some inmates from Cedar Creek Corrections Center, and this was in October, go and search dense vegetation where she could have been at one point or -- and then maybe moved or placed there if, indeed, something had happened to her. And they wanted to recheck all of that ground. In fact, the superintendent, Douglas Cole, of the Cedar Creek Corrections Center said that the inmates genuinely were interested in trying to solve this case.
But, when you, you know, hear Melissa, I mean, McCleary is the last place you would ever think that something like this would happen, and so, I can see why all the parents would be totally, you know, flabbergasted by what has happened here because you just would not expect it.
GRACE: To Jean Casarez, give me the significance on this gas station, this 7-11 convenience store video, and I want to talk about potential person of interest buying donuts that day. What does this video mean to me? What`s the significance of buying donuts and why was the storage facility searched, Jean Casarez?
CASAREZ: All right. The video is significant because she would have walked by that Shell gas station on the way home. It was just released, Nancy, this surveillance video. And there were some unknown people that they were trying to find. One man stepped forward and said, I was just passing through town, but I still think they have not been able to identify some of the other people in this video.
As far as the donuts, there have been five search warrants executed in this case, Nancy. They are fascinating to read, and I say that on a legal sense, but the donuts come from a man who voluntarily allowed people in his home, law enforcement, but probable cause that he had been dealing in child porn on his computer. And he said that he had gotten donuts on the day that Lindsey Baum went missing.
GRACE: But he`s diabetic.
CASAREZ: But he`s diabetic.
GRACE: He got donuts for whom?
CASAREZ: For the children.
GRACE: What children?
CASAREZ: What children? I don`t know.
GRACE: Out to the lines. Nowasa in Kentucky. Hi, Nowasa.
NOWASA, KENTUCKY: Hi, Nancy. I`ve been trying to get a hold of you for, like, four years.
GRACE: Thank you.
NOWASA: I`ve got a set of twins, myself, and I love seeing your pictures that you show. But this devastates me. We live in a world where we cannot trust anybody. We can`t trust our neighbors. We can`t trust -- we don`t know our best friends, who they could turn out to be. And it just -- this is -- I`m curious to know, the little girl went to this person`s house. And yes, it might have been they`re best friends and all that, and I have no right to say anything bad at some people, but did they even give a call to the mother to say, hey, she`s walking home?
GRACE: That`s a good question. That`s a good question, Nowasa in Kentucky. What about it, Miss Baum? Did they call to let you know she was coming home?
BAUM: No. And again, there was -- they had a lot of stuff -- something had gone on, so they kind of were in the middle of something apparently at the time she left and just didn`t think to call me.
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GRACE: These are the faces of America`s missing. Every 30 seconds another child, sister, brother, father, mother, disappears. Families left behind, wondering, waiting, hoping. We have not forgotten.
GRACE: It`s been interpreted that you are concerned the boyfriend had something to do with Hailey`s disappearance.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: That bothers me a lot.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Nine days ago, Shawn (ph) says Hailey told him she was going to her father`s house then to a friend`s house down the road.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: God gave her to us. We want her back.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I want her home. She`s been gone too long and they say after so long that she might not come home.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I am getting worried that maybe my baby didn`t leave on her own.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: We want to believe that somebody has that baby.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I want to believe that she did give him away, so that maybe he`s safe and he`s with somebody that`s taking care of him right now.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It`s a very real possibility that Elizabeth killed Gabriel. It`s also a possibility that she handed Gabriel of to somebody else.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: The guys are saying things about diaper bag and stuff, and it`s -- we just don`t want to hear that.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Elizabeth Johnson, 7/24/86.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: She appeared something totally different than she wound up being.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Child abuse, a class 2 felony and one count of kidnapping.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: And we feel quite duped.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: She`s currently facing charges of kidnapping which is a class 2 felony. Child abuse which is a class 4 felony, and custodial interference.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Nobody will forget you, Nonnie, and we`ll keep looking for you until we find you, OK? We just want you home. We just want you home.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: This is a picture of Stepha Henry taken at Club Peppers in Sunrise may 29th, the same day the woman visiting from New York went missing.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: She never give us any, you know, any reason to do something like this.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We love you, and everyone else loves you. And they would love to see you home.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Henry was planning on law school next year and loves legal mysteries.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: We`ll protect you as you come. Now and forever, amen.
GRACE: I`m Nancy Grace. See you tomorrow night, 9:00 sharp eastern. And until then, we are looking. Keep the faith, friend. Goodnight.