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Floodwaters Nearing Center of Bangkok; Quake Court Sequel; 'Corrective Rape' in South Africa; St. Paul's Cathedral File Legal Injunction Against Occupy Protesters; A Look At Arab Spring Protests Throughout Middle East
Aired October 28, 2011 - 08:00:00 ET
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KRISTIE LU STOUT, HOST: Welcome to NEWS STREAM, where news and technology meet.
I'm Kristie Lu Stout, in Hong Kong.
We begin in Bangkok, where some roads have turned into rivers. Floodwaters continue to creep closer to the center of the Thai capital.
NATO decides to end its mission in Libya, as the country's new leaders promise to prosecute whoever killed Moammar Gadhafi.
And the International Criminal Court says it's having discussions about the surrender of Gadhafi's son.
And Occupy movement protesters are still camped out at St. Paul's Cathedral in London, but one of its leading clerics is gone.
And we start in Thailand, where, hour by hour, floodwaters are seeping closer to the heart of one of Asia's largest cities. Two high tides on Friday, one in the morning and the other this evening, are straining Bangkok's flood defenses. Now, parts of the city water is as high as the sandbags, and some dike sections have broken.
Thai authorities are now looking into digging up major roads to speed up drainage. Several districts are under a mandatory evacuation order, and the city's domestic airport remains closed. But the international airport is open.
As you can see, many people are leaving by road.
And the floodwaters coming to Bangkok are generally advancing slowly. Runoff from the north and central parts of the country are continuing to reach the outskirts of the city, and Bangkok's northern and western districts remain the most affected. But now some eastern neighborhoods are also seeing high water.
And so far, the central business district has remained dry, but take a look at the Chao Phraya River, which weaves through the inner city. Officials say it is at a new high.
Now, the Thai prime minister says the situation is critical.
And for the latest, we go live to Sara Sidner in Bangkok.
And Sara, what have you seen today?
SARA SIDNER, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Let's tell you what we're seeing right now.
We are in the eastern part of Bangkok, and this is the exact neighborhood that the government had told people yesterday, you need to evacuate, you need to get out. Well, you can see why.
The waters have risen here. They've come into this neighborhood very, very slowly, but surely. And in some parts of the neighborhood -- like you're seeing people walk behind me -- some people are able to drive through this depending on how high their vehicles are. But as you push further into this neighborhood, the water actually gets waist deep on many of the residents.
Some of the residents have decided to stay. We're seeing people who are still set up stalled (ph) and are selling food here. But a lot of the residents are beginning to get scared because the water is just coming up to high in their homes. And we have seen today the army come in and take out a few of the elderly people who have decided to get out of these floodwaters.
Now, let me give you a look at what we saw earlier in the day, when we were in the central part of Bangkok. And we did drive around quite a bit.
Much of the middle of Bangkok is still dry. It is not seeing floodwaters, even with the high tide this morning and evening.
In the morning, we were there for the high tide, and we took a look at what was happening in Chinatown, which is about a kilometer away from the river. And what you were seeing there is water coming in to the area, but not high enough to stop and completely stop traffic.
And then, a few hours later, that water complete receded. It drained off and went away from the area, so it looked like nothing had ever come into that section of town. And that's what we're seeing across the city.
One of the headlines here, I would say, is that, though the government has told people to brace for the worst, it doesn't seem like the worst has happened. Now, there is going to be another high tide, perhaps the highest, in the next 24 hours.
What you're hearing right now is members of the army just behind me. A big truck is starting to pull up and allowing people to get out they have rescued in the deeper end of this neighborhood. But at this point in time, while the north and the east are seeing the brunt of this, central Bangkok still seems to be OK -- Kristie.
STOUT: Now, Sara, given the amount of water -- and you described in some in some areas, the water is waist high -- and the fact that a lot of it will linger, it will stay for weeks, what is the public health impact?
SIDNER: Well, there's always the concern that this water is stagnant in some areas, it's been stagnant for weeks, all sorts of things in the water. The thing that people are the most afraid of, to be honest, are the animals in the water. We're talking about crocodiles, we're talking about snakes. People very concerned, because they were able to find a six-foot python in the water.
The government has sent out -- the Fishery Department has sent out every day crocodile hunters who are picking up crocodiles in these waters. So there's a lot of fear about what is lurking in these very murky waters. But, of course, anybody that has skin issues is going to be very worried and concerned getting this water on their body. We're seeing lots of people just walk through in flip-flops because that's all they were prepared for.
And so, a situation where there is concern. And you can certainly start smelling the smell of floodwaters in these neighborhoods -- Kristie.
STOUT: Sara Sidner, joining us live from Bangkok.
You can clearly see the floodwater behind her there.
STOUT: Now, NATO's mission in Libya will officially end on Monday. NATO Secretary-General Anders Fogh Rasmussen says the alliance does not expect to play a major role in Libya after October the 31st. Now, Libya's interim government announced the country's liberation last weekend, just days after the fall of the last holdout city, Sirte, and the capture and death of Moammar Gadhafi.
And yesterday, the U.N. Security Council voted unanimously to end all military operations in Libya, but it says it will continue to address reports of rampant reprisal killings.
Now, meanwhile, rumors continue to swirl around Gadhafi's death. He apparently was fatally shot after being captured. And the revolutionary fighter you see here in the center shouting in joy and being embraced claims that he is the one who did it.
Many in Libya say they're glad Gadhafi is gone, but that fighter could face prosecution.
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AHMED BANI, NTC MILITARY COUNCIL: We will ask him. There's an investigation. Mr. Bradili (ph) said there's an investigation. If we find this story isn't true, so the NTC is going to have to take action against him.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We hope that we catch him alive. But if he is dead, that's OK. That man killed, you know, hundreds of people in this area, and we really (INAUDIBLE).
And the man who killed him, should let him free or something. I don't care about him.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I think Gadhafi is a criminal, a big criminal and terrorist. So why did he do this to Libyans like us? Even me, if I have a shot to do this, I will kill him.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You would do it?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I would do it. Absolutely. I would do it.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: So for the young man that killed him, what do you think should happen to him?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Nothing.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Nothing?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Nothing. I'm glad Gadhafi's dead. Everybody's glad.
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STOUT: Gadhafi's family wants the International Criminal Court to investigate his death. Their lawyer says the relatives plan to file a war crimes complaint against NATO. He says the family believes that everything that happened in Libya after the NATO mission began led to Gadhafi's killing. NATO says it never targeted specific individuals.
And the hunt goes on for Gadhafi's son, Saif al-Islam, who is wanted by the International Criminal Court for crimes against humanity. The ICC's chief prosecutor says while the court does not know where he is, informal conversations are taking place to secure Saif al-Islam's surrender to The Hague.
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LUIS MORENO-OCAMPO, CHIEF PROSECUTOR, ICC: They are informal conversations. I think they're exploring the possibility to appeal before the court. We offer them, of course, we can help you to surrender to the court, and if he considers he's innocent, he has all the right to prepare his argument for the judges. We have evidence. We believe he was part of the crimes against humanity by Libya.
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STOUT: Now, Moreno-Ocampo says Saif al-Islam could be prosecuted for allegedly organizing the killing of Libyan civilians.
And ahead on NEWS STREAM, with hopes fading, finding more quake survivors in the rubble a breakthrough for Turkish rescuers.
And police tactics at an Occupy protest in the U.S. come under fire.
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ZUKISWA GACA, RAPE VICTIM: Then he said, "Now I'll show you that I am a man and I've got power."
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STOUT: World's untold stories, a special report on the hate crime known as "corrective rape."
Stay with us.
STOUT: The death toll from Turkey's weekend earthquake has risen to 570 people, but we can also bring you some good news from the disaster zone. Rescue workers pulled a 13-year-old boy from the rubble some 108 hours after the quake struck the town of Ercis. Now, he is being treated in a field hospital.
And 2,500 people were injured in the 7.2 magnitude earthquake. Many are still missing.
And for those who survived the earthquake, there is still a long road ahead. Thousands are now homeless, and here you can see Red Crescent tents set up in Turkey's eastern province of Van to provide shelter for those in need. And snow and mud have been complicating the rescue efforts there.
And here you can see earthquake survivors are seeking warmth from a makeshift bonfire after losing their homes in the quake-stricken city of Ercis. And here is a group of survivors, young and old, and they're grasping at bread handouts in Ercis on Thursday. There have been reports of raids on food trucks as survivors grow increasingly desperate for aid.
Two years after an earthquake devastated the Italian hill town of L'Aquila, there's an unusual court case being closely watched by scientists around the world. Now, six scientists and a public security official are on trial, facing manslaughter charges, over their alleged failure to warn the community about the earthquake risk.
Paula Newton reports.
PAULA NEWTON, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): The scenes in L'Aquila just hours after the quake unfolded with grim predictability.
(on camera): It's been agonizing for the families to stay here over so many hours. Just moments ago, another body being pulled out. That of a male student.
(voice-over): There was shock, grief, and already despair. But it was the anger here surfacing so quickly and so fiercely that was unnerving, as if somehow, someone was to blame for the 6.3 magnitude earthquake as if it could have been prevented.
And now, more than two years later, that's exactly what's on trial in an Italian courtroom. Six scientists and one public official are charged with manslaughter. Victims of the quake and their families allege the accused did not do enough to save lives despite all their research and knowledge. The very science they practice is on trial, and they could personally be held accountable, with a maximum sentence of 15 years of convicted.
DOMENICO GIARDINI, PRESIDENT, INST. OF GEOPHYSICS AND VOLCANOLOGY: I know personally all the persons that are on trial. These are among the best in the world, and I know that they dedicated all their life for the safety of the population. So there is little question in my mind that they did everything that they could. However, it's a fair question to ask different times and locations. So these are the most recent events --
NEWTON: The man who used to have Domenico Giardini's job as head of Italy's Seismic Monitoring Center is one of those on trial, and yet Giardini says it's time he and his colleagues learn from the mistakes of L'Aquila.
GIARDINI: What is on trial really is communication. It's how science gets communicated, it's how long it takes for science to then be implemented. It's how do you transmit knowledge that can be very technically complicated into procedural civil protection that has to be inherently simple in order to be followed?
NEWTON: At issue, a risk assessment meeting held in L'Aquila just days before the earthquake, when residents were told that strong tremors that were already rattling the area for weeks leading up to the quake were nothing to worry about. Victims allege that's why so many failed to evacuate in time.
There is global interest in this trial, as well as outrage from scientific bodies around the world that say their colleagues cannot be held criminally responsible for an unpredictable act of nature. Still, prosecutors say they don't expect scientists to predict earthquakes, just to accurately communicate the risk.
Paula Newton, CNN, Rome.
STOUT: You're watching NEWS STREAM. And still ahead, it is called "corrective rape," a series of shocking crimes committed against lesbians in South Africa.
STOUT: Welcome back.
Now, in South Africa, gay rights are protected in the country's constitution. But CNN has uncovered a number of cases where the South African justice system appears to be failing lesbians who have been raped.
Now, it is called "corrective rape," where men force themselves on lesbians, believing it will change their sexual orientation.
Nkepile Mabuse brings us one woman's story.
NKEPILE MABUSE, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): It was December of 2009, a night 20-year-old Zukiswa Gaca will never forget.
GACA: I went to have some drinks with a friend at one of the pubs there by Khayelitsha. I was staying there.
MABUSE: After drinking at a local bar, Zuki says a man tried to ask her out.
GACA: Then I told the guy that I'm a lesbian, so I don't date guys. Then he said to me, "OK. I understand that. I've got friends who are lesbians, so that's cool. I don't have a problem with that."
MABUSE: He was nice to her, so she trusted him. They ended up at a home of one of his friends, a little more than a shack in this neighborhood. That's when Zuki says his mood shifted.
GACA: His eyes were full of anger, and he was not the guy that I was coming with, the guy who understands lesbians.
MABUSE: She says he left the room briefly and returned a different person.
GACA: He came back and said to me, "You know what? I hate lesbians. And I'm about to show you that you are not a man, as you are treating yourself like a man."
And I told the guy, "No, I'm not a man. I never said I'm a man. I'm just a lesbian." Then he said, "Now I'll show you that I am a man and I've got the power more than you."
So, he came to me as I was sitting on the bed. He came to me and he opened my trousers and took it off. And he opened his trousers and took it off, and then he raped me.
At that time, the only thing that was on my mind was to just kill myself after that.
STOUT: Now, corrective rape is the subject of a special "World's Untold Stories," right here on CNN.
Nkepile Mabuse is in South Africa and joins us live from CNN Johannesburg.
And Nkepile, corrective rape, I mean, this is a hate crime. Why does this happen in South Africa, where gay rights are protected?
MABUSE: Very good question, Kristie, but very difficult to answer. The facts are that rape is a huge problem in this country. Interpol estimates that half of South African women will be raped in their lifetime, and what has become increasingly clear -- and Human Rights Watch has investigated this corrective rape, gone to six of South Africa's nine provinces to interview victims of this corrective rape. And they have found that attitudes towards homosexuality in South Africa have, in fact, hardened after these laws were promulgated.
So it's very clear that what is written in South Africa's constitution, and in the laws that protect gay rights and allow for gay marriages and for gay couples to adopt children, is not really reflected on the ground. And the victims maybe are coming from black townships, poor areas.
I mean, these women that we've spoken to -- Zuki is the woman who was speaking just now -- they live in fear for their lives every single day, Kristie, despite the fact that the law protects them -- Kristie.
STOUT: So is the government listening? Are they addressing this violent hate crime against gay South Africans?
MABUSE: I think the government is listening. The big question is, what are they doing about this?
In 2008, a female football player was gang-raped and brutally murdered. This was a huge story covered extensively by the media. But it was only after a U.S.-based gay rights group put pressure on the South African government early this year that they decided to put together a task team.
And what this task team is doing is they've been meeting since March, haven't really changed anything on the ground. They're still discussing the issue.
This has been a huge issue for many, many years. And there just seems to be no political will, Kristie, to actually nip this problem bud.
In 2008, the current president, Jacob Zuma -- he wasn't president then, he was the deputy president of the ruling party, the ANC -- he made homophobic remarks, and it was reported in the media. He later apologized, but the damage had already been done.
So this just proves that these attitudes are not really just confined to poor areas in South Africa's townships. I mean, they've go across the board.
The gay people that we've spoken to for this documentary tell us that the way they are treated by the police is appalling, and by the justice system. So, really, it's a societal problem. It's a huge problem. And I really don't think there's political will to deal with it in South Africa at the moment -- Kristie.
STOUT: You know, it is appalling. And Nkepile, thank you so much for bringing this report to us and our viewers around the world.
Nkepile Mabuse, joining us live from Johannesburg.
And you can catch a special presentation of our "World's Untold Stories" this weekend. Catch it Saturday, 9:00 p.m. in Hong Kong, 5:00 p.m. in Abu Dhabi, right here on CNN.
Now, ahead on NEWS STREAM, young, restless, and hoping to change the world.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: How old are you?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Twenty-seven years old. I have nothing. There's nothing for the future. Single, frustrated in this country.
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STOUT: Find out what's really driving young people in the Arab Spring revolutions.
Plus, Occupy London. Protesters outside St. Paul's Cathedral draw up their demands, and we'll tell you who's listening and who's quitting in support.
STOUT: I'm Kristie Lu Stout in Hong Kong. You're watching News Stream. And these are your world headlines.
Now tens of thousands of people have left Bangkok as water levels rise. Flood waters in the north have been moving into some areas and mixing with high tide. And the worst could come on Saturday. Buses, trains, and the airport are packed with people trying to escape the floods.
Now the chief prosecutor for the International Criminal Court in The Hague says he is still not sure where Colonel Gadhafi's son, Said al-Islam Gadhafi is. But there are informal conversations to bring him to justice. Now Said is wanted by the ICC for crimes against humanity and has not been seen in public for weeks.
There are reports that Syrian forces have shot dead protesters at demonstrations on Friday. The London based Syrian Observatory for Human Rights says at least 15 people were killed. And Reuters and AP report deaths in the cities of Hama and Homs.
And big changes for the British monarchy. Commonwealth leaders meeting in Australia are changing the laws of royal succession to allow sons and daughters of monarchs to have equal right to the throne. That means if Prince William becomes king, and he and Katherine have a first-born daughter, she could inherit the thrown. Each commonwealth nation must still approve the new laws.
Now try getting space for yourself on this very packed beach in eastern China. Now this is a snapshot of just how crowded our world is becoming. In three days, on October 31st, the world population will reach 7 billion. That's according to the United Nations. And demographers say that countries, including China, Vietnam and India, and also eastern Europe will see an increasingly male population. They say the relative shortage of adult women over the next 50 years could have a big impact, as big as global warming.
Now the UN calls the 7 billion milestone a challenge, an opportunity, and a call to action, especially for the world's young people. But it warns that opportunity is fleeting.
Now according to the UN population fund report, people under age 25 make up nearly half of our 7 billion population, 43 percent. And the challenge then is to give them jobs, skills, and education. But the international labor organization says some 13 percent of the world's youth had no jobs in 2009 near the height of the global economic crisis. And that unemployment rate, it spiraled in the Arab world with nearly a quarter of young people jobless in Arab countries this year. And many say that was a major factor in the Arab Spring uprisings.
Now young people facing few jobs, lack of education and poverty, make up one-third of the Arab world's population.
Now their anger has turned into action in Tunisia, Yemen, and other Arab countries. And Mohammed Jamjoom takes a closer look at the youth of the Arab spring who are risking their lives for what they hope will be a changed future.
MOHAMMED JAMJOOM, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: It was frustration at Tunisia's youth unemployment that started it all. When 23-year-old fruit vendor Mohammed Bouazizi set fire to himself last year and died days later, it sparked an unprecedented wave of protests that would transform the region.
Thousands of Tunisians took to the streets demanding political change and economic opportunity. The country's youth spearheaded what became known as the jasmine revolution.
By mid-January, President Zine El Abidine Ben Ali had been overthrown and fled to Saudi Arabia. His departure not only overjoyed young Tunisians, but galvanized young Egyptians. They set up camp in Cairo's Tahrir Square calling for an end to corruption, the creation of jobs, and implementation of democratic reforms, demanding Hosni Mubarak step down. His ouster came on February 11.
As in Egypt, huge numbers of unemployed youth, a lack of opportunities, and rising poverty inspired young protesters to flood the streets of cities throughout Yemen, the region's poorest country.
At a youth-led rally outside Sanaa University in February, many college educated Yemenis expressed their dissatisfaction at the lack of job opportunities there. The anger was palpable.
How old are you?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: 27 years old. Have nothing. Did nothing for the future. (inaudible), frustrated in this country.
JAMJOOM: March, and in Syria protests are sparked by the arrest of several teenagers in Daraa who dabbed walls with anti-regime slogans. Since then, thousands of died in the unrest. But many of those who continue to demonstrate are young and out of work, risking their lives day after day in the hopes of attaining a better future.
A new report from the World Economic Forum says the Middle East and North Africa will need to create 25 million new jobs and sustain average growth of 5.5 percent over the next decade to provide young people with work.
Across the Middle East and North Africa, jobless rates among the young average 25 percent, that's almost 8 percent higher than the average of developed countries. A growing workforce, but a stagnant economy, the scenario in many Arab countries where the educated and unemployed young decide not to sit idly by.
They've not only taken to the streets, they're also using social media in ways that allow them to communicate, organize, recruit, and evade strict controls on mainstream media to get their message of resistance out to the wider world.
Mohammed Jamjoom, CNN, Abu Dhabi.
STOUT: Now Tunisia has released official election results confirmed the Islamist Ennahda party won weekend elections with 41.5 percent of the vote. And the party says it expects to form a government within 10 days.
But in the town considered the cradle of the Arab Spring there are violent protests. Now the military is trying to disperse crowds in (inaudible) with tear gas and shots in the air. And the Interior Ministry says a night-time curfew has been declared.
Now the headquarters of the Ennahda Party was set on fire on Thursday. And the protests followed an independent commission ruling disqualifying several candidates from the people's petition after they had won seats.
Now ahead on News Stream, Occupy Wall Street: the fallout.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: ...politics are now completely interrelated. So the politics has actually ignored everyone, the vast majority of people in this country.
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STOUT: Now protesters in London are causing a stir outside St. Paul's Cathedral. We'll take you there live next.
STOUT: Coming to you live from Hong Kong. You're back watching News Stream. And European leaders reached a deal on handling the EuroZone debt crisis, but it appears that tensions still remain high, at least when it comes to Greece.
In a live televised interview on Thursday, French president Nicolas Sarkozy had some frank words for the debt laden country, saying it should never have been allowed into the EuroZone.
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NICOLAS SARKOZY, PRESIDENT OF FRANCE (through translator): Let's be clear, it was a mistake, because Greece came into the Euro with numbers that were false. And its economy was not prepared to assume an integration into the EuroZone. It was a decision that was taken in, I believe 2001, for which we now are paying the consequence.
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STOUT: Meanwhile, the head of Europe's bailout fund was in China today meeting with leaders in Beijing amid hopes that the world's second biggest economy might be able to lend a larger financial hand. Now China has been a regular buyer of European bonds, but the bailout fund chief said the timing of his visit was not significant, and no special deals were in the works, but that he hopes China will continue to be a strong investment partner.
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KLAUS REGLING, CHIEF EXECUTIVE, EUROPEAN FINANCIAL STABILITY FACILITY: They are interested to finding some attractive, solid, safe investment opportunities. And I'm happy that we are bonds that are being considered to be invested (inaudible). And for I'm optimistic that we will have also a long lasting relationship, because we will continue to provide safe, effective investment opportunities.
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STOUT: Now one of the reason's EU leaders decided to expand Europe's rescue fund was to provide a buffer if more countries should need bailouts. And one of them that they're keeping a close eye on is Spain, the country's jobless rate rose more than half a percent between July and September from the previous quarter to 21.52 percent. Now that means roughly 5 million people are out of work. And more than double the number in 2008 when the country's labor intensive property market collapsed.
Now high unemployment and financial frustration are some of the issues fueling the Occupy Wall Street movement. In London, protesters outside St. Paul's Cathedral have been told to leave the grounds after safety concerns forced the cathedral to close last week for the first time since World War II.
Now a senior cleric has since resigned citing concerns that violence my be used to break up peaceful protests. And Canon Chancellor Giles Fraser, he tweeted this on Thursday, he wrote, "it is with great regret and sadness that I have handed in my notice at St. Paul's Cathedral."
Now St. Paul has finally reopened its doors for services again today. Erin McLaughlin is there, joins us now with the latest. And Erin, what are you seeing? And will the activists be forcibly removed?
ERIN MCLAUGHLIN, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORREPSONDENT: Well, Kristie, today the city of London and St. Paul's Cathedral announcing their decision to seek legal action against the camp site that you see just behind me. The cathedral saying that they still hope for a peaceful resolution to the situation in a statement, announcing, quote, if an injunction is granted we will then be able to discuss with the protesters how to reach this solution.
Now joining me now is protester Spyro Van Leemnen. Spyro, what is your personal reaction to this announcement?
SPYRO VAN LEEMNEN, PROTESTER: We are very disappointed to see the church decide to take the legal route. The church should stand by yourselves. Jesus, himself, kicked out the money lenders from the temple. And now we see this symbol of Christianity collaborating with the money lenders and to evict people from the doorstep.
MCLAUGHLIN: So what will be the camp's course of action Spyro?
VAN LEEMNEN: Well, we have our barrister Mr. Cooper (ph) working on the case. And we're going to respond to this action through the legal route as well.
Now Spyro, the bishop of London had -- had called for this camp to be disbanded, saying inviting you, that if you peacefully leave to attend a debate inside the cathedral to address some of your issues. What is your response to that?
VAN LEEMNEN: We hold meetings here -- the general assemblies every day where they're open for everyone to attend. So we invite him to join -- to join this general assembly where everyone is equal. We're not sending representatives, because we don't have representatives. We're all equal in this movement. And we would like to see Boris Johnson, the mayor of London, we would like to see the bishop of London as well joining our debate.
Tomorrow we're holding a special event for faith. So...
MCLAUGHLIN: OK. Thanks, Spyro.
Well, Kristie, I spoke to a counselor following this announcement. And he tells me that he expects legal action would take three to four months to resolve.
STOUT: And Erin, I understand that the activists there have issued a detailed list of demands. What exactly do they want?
MCLAUGHLIN: Well, Kristie, they're demanding, first and foremost to be able to stay, to be able to voice their concerns. Just behind me, you can see they're engaging right now in a general assembly. And a general assembly, basically, is a format, as Spyro was just explaining, for people to come together and be able to share their ideas, Kristie.
STOUT: Erin McLaughlin joining us live from London. Thank you very much for that.
Now let's go to Oakland, California. And a former Marine has become a rallying cry for Occupy protesters. And his faith has also led to questions about police tactics. And this is why. Now this is Iraq war veteran Scott Olsen. He was attending the Oakland protest on Tuesday. And witnesses say he was struck by a tear gas canister. And then he fell to the ground.
Now here's another look at the very same footage here. Now here you see the crowds, they're rushing towards Scott Olsen. He is lying there on the ground. He's already been hit once here. And then you appear to see more canisters hitting the crowd. And they appear to come from close range from the direction of the police you see in the background of that shot.
Now looking at this, this is a source from YouTube, this video. You can see Olsen is then carried off amid cries from bystanders that he's been shot. Now we now know he suffered a skull fracture.
Now Olsen was in fair condition at a local hospital's intensive care unit on Thursday. And the mayor of Oakland, Jean Quan, she has apologized for the violence saying that she is deeply saddened and has started an investigation into the use of police force.
And police have said they used tear gas on protesters after the crowd threw paint and other objects at them.
Now the Occupy movement is a worldwide phenomenon, encompassing thousands of protesters. And to find out just who they are, check out this web site. CNN has created a page called Meet the 99 percent. And 10 ireporters in 10 cities around the world captured portraits of demonstrators who share their reasons for joining the movement from England to Denmark, Canada, The Netherlands, and the U.S. The protesters are diverse from the young to middle age, the working to the unemployed. But what they have in common is a desire to fight corruption and corporate influence in government. So check it out.
Now, in one of the most dramatic nights baseball has ever seen. The St. Louis Cardinals, they leave it to the last minute to force a World Series decider against the Texas Rangers. Stick around.
STOUT: Welcome back.
Now Lady Liberty is enjoying a milestone birthday. The U.S. National Park Service is celebrating the 125th anniversary of the dedication of the Statue of Liberty, and this is the webcam view from the torch she holds aloft. It is one of several new webcams that were placed around her torch, giving anyone with internet access a view of New York's skyline, the Hudson River, and New York Harbor.
Now one of the greatest games in baseball history took place on Thursday night. And when the dust settled, the Cardinals were still alive. And here's Pedro Pinto with all of the action -- Pedro.
PEDRO PINTO, CNN SPORTS CORRESPONDENT: Hey, Kristie.
You know this game had been postponed on Wednesday because of bad weather, but it was definitely worth the wait. Twice, the Texas Rangers were one out away from their first ever World Series title, yet twice they failed to seal the deal.
Five Cardinal hall of famers were on hand at Busch Stadium.
We're going to fast forward to the bottom of the 9th, that's when the drama really picked up. Texas up two runs and needing one more out to win the game. But watch David Freese come up with a huge hit up the wall, turned out to be a triple that scored two runs and sent the game to extra innings.
In the top of the 10th, the Rangers respond. Josh Hamilton smacking a Jason Mark pitch deep to right with a man on, that's gone. The visitors taking another two run lead.
St. Louis were down, but they weren't out. They got a run back. And then tied the game up again. With two outs and two strikes against him, Lance Berkman lined a single into center field scoring John Jay.
The incredible comeback would be complete in the bottom of the 11th inning. Freese again coming up with the goods. A solo walkoff homerun. He wins the game for the Cardinals, forcing a game seven, which will take place again in St. Louis on Friday night.
Now on the heels of a marathon 15 hour negotiating session, NBA players and team owners met for another seven hours on Thursday in an ongoing attempt to reach a new collective bargaining agreement that could yet save a full season.
The big question that everyone really wants to know, and they asked both sides this, is the question is progress actually being made?
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DEREK FISHER, PLAYERS UNION PRESIDENT: We're working through so many different issues. And we're trying to close the gap in each issue. As you try and make a move towards getting a deal done, it gets tougher right down at the end.
DAVID STERN, NBA COMMISSIONER: There's an element of continuity, familiarity and I would hope trust that would enable us to look forward to tomorrow where we anticipate there will be some important and additional progress, or not.
BILLY HUNTER, PLAYERS UNION EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR: I think we're within reach, and within striking distance of getting a deal. It's just a question of how receptive the NBA is and whether or not they want to do a deal.
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PINTO: Here in England, there was good news for Carlos Tevez on Thursday. He found out his record $1.6 million fine had been halved. Manchester City had decided to fine him four weeks wages after he allegedly refused to play in a Champion's League game against Bayern Munich, but the professional players union refused to accept that, saying the maximum allowed was a two weeks wages fine.
The English club have reluctantly agreed to half the penalty. Tevez still has an option to appeal against City if he so chooses.
Caroline Wozniacki may have secured the year-ending number one ranking, but she hasn't finished the season like she had hoped. The Dane, who got the trophy for the year-ending world number one in Instanbul was knocked out of the WTA tour championships after losing for the second time in three matches in the group phase.
Let's show you how it happened. Wozniacki lost to Petra Kvitova on Thursday. The Wimbeldon champion has been unbeatable in indoor events this season. As a matter of fact, she improved to 16-0 in matches played under a roof. Kvitova won the first set 6-4, and she didn't look back from there.
To be fair, it seemed the world number one had some physical problems. She had to be seen by a doctor. She decided to carry on, but was no match for her Czech opponent. Kvitova winning the second set 6-2 and securing a place in the next phase of the season ending event.
That is a quick look at sports for this hour.
Kristie, back to you in Hong Kong.
STOUT: Pedro, thank you. And have a good weekend.
And finally, with costumes like this, it could only be Halloween. But it's not just people who dress up, we have found a house that sings, talks, and practically dances for Halloween. Jeanne Moos has the story.
JEANNE MOOS, CNN CORRESPONDENT: That's no motion detecting anti-burglary device, this is a talking house, practically a dancing house.
The web site Gawker christened it the awesome Halloween light show you're glad isn't on your block.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: In a place perhaps you've seen in your dreams.
MOOS: Or in your nightmares, the house plays one number taken from a Tim Burton film the Nightmare Before Christmas.
Here's the house version.
And this is the family that lives in the Halloween house in Riverside, California.
Kevin, he prefers we not use his last name, isn't doing any TV interviews at the moment. But we did have a nice long phone conversation with him.
At his day job, he installs fiber optics for Verizon. But he takes a week off to put up the 5,000 or so LED lights on his own house. And he uses his spare time over a period of months to program them.
He started the tradition back in 2008 with Thriller, does something different every year.
To us, it may be funny. Are the neighbors amused?
One we talked to said folks seem to like it, though she was a bit worried it would get too popular.
Online, it's a smash: epic, incredible, awesome.
Jeanne Moos, CNN, New York.
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