Return to Transcripts main page


Qantas Flights Resume; NATO Chief in Libya; Attack in Kandahar; Freak Snow Storm Freeze U.S. Northeast; UN Estimates 7 Billionth Person Born Today

Aired October 31, 2011 - 08:00:00   ET


KRISTIE LU STOUT, HOST: Welcome to NEWS STREAM, where news and technology meet.

I'm Kristie Lu Stout, in Hong Kong.

And we begin in Australia, where Qantas planes are flying again after labor issues grounded the entire fleet.

And we'll bring you along with one Bangkok resident as he returns to his flooded home.

And somewhere in the world the seven billionth human was born today. We'll look at the challenges facing our increasingly crowded planet.

Back in the air. Australia's biggest airline, Qantas, is finally flying again almost two days after the company's CEO grounded its entire fleet.

Now, nearly 450 flights were canceled, disrupting travel for some 100,000 passengers. Now, according to the Australian newspaper, the government says it was not warned of the decision to ground Qantas flights until three hours before it happened. And as the transport minister explains, it may take until Wednesday to clear the backlog of delayed and canceled flights.


ANTHONY ALBANESE, AUSTRALIAN INFRASTRUCTURE AND TRANSPORT MINISTER: It will take some time to clear the backlog. The other major domestic airline, Virgin Australia, has stepped up in terms on put on extra flights. Some of the backlog was being cleared over the weekend and today, but there was a considerable wait, particularly on the Sydney to Melbourne route, which is the fourth busiest aviation route in the world.


STOUT: Now, at the center of all this is a 14-month-long dispute with three of the airline's unions representing air and ground staff. Qantas is planning to restructure some of its international operations, and union officials say the move is just a way to save a quick buck by outsourcing ground jobs and putting thousands of Australians out of work. The unions are also pushing for better pay and working conditions.

And Qantas says that their demands will seriously impair or destroy the airline. Well, grounding its fleet hasn't done much to benefit the airline either, sparking criticism from others within the industry and prompting Moody's to put Qantas' credit rating on review for a possible downgrade.

An Australian labor board says enough is enough and has ordered both feuding parties to settle their disputes. They have three weeks to reach an agreement.

The first international route to resume today was a Qantas flight from Sydney to Jakarta.

Andrew Stevens has been following all the latest developments. He joins us now live from Sydney's airport.

And Andrew, Qantas is back in the air, but exactly when will service get fully back to normal?

ANDREW STEVENS, CNN INTERNATIONAL ANCHOR: Well, Qantas is saying, Kristie, within the next 24 to 48 hours. The full service should be resumed. It's going to take a few more days than that though to clear the backlog.

Interestingly, though, the pressing point seems to be on the domestic flights, because we were just in the international part of the airport here in Sydney, and the flight to Hong Kong, which takes about four (ph) percent capacity, and that's because a lot of passengers have taken flights on other planes. When the lockout began, completely unexpected at 5:00 p.m. on Saturday, passengers started looking for alternatives, which they managed to get.

This is a world service airport, particularly going into Asia. So that flight went out quite lightly packed. But the bigger story is here, what happens next?

Now, as you say, there are three weeks now for the unions and Qantas to get together to thrash out a deal. It's been 14 months. They haven't so far.

There's a lot of acrimony, there's a lot of bad blood here. It's been a particularly bitter dispute. There have been death threats, there have been a lot of ill feeling between the management of Qantas and the unions. So whether they can actually reach a deal is still a question.

If they don't, a deal will be made for them. The labor tribunal will actually make a binding deal which they'll both have to abide by.

Now, neither side particularly wants to see that happen, although Alan Joyce, the CEO of Qantas, Kristie, was quite happy to see the government step in, because he's been saying that we can't get any resolution, this is death by a thousand cuts for Qantas, its ongoing industrial action. He said they were prepared -- the unions were prepared to continue that action through the Christmas period, into the new year, and that would have continued to undermine Qantas. So he brought things to a head, really, by doing the lockout, and the government then made its move.

STOUT: Andrew, you mentioned the bitterness and the acrimony, but what is the general mood in Australia? Are Australians simply losing patience with their national airline?

STEVENS: Well, it certainly started off with a lot of frustration for passengers trapped over the weekend because it happened so quickly. No prior warning. Only the government, as you pointed out, only got three hours of prior warning on this.

So, a lot of anger, but talking to people here in Sydney today, there was some resignation as well. It was almost as if this industrial action has been going on for a long time. One gentleman said to be Qantas had to do what they had to do to try to resolve these issues and to get things moving forward.

Qantas is a much loved airline in Australia. For all its faults -- obviously airlines around the world have their detractors, but they also have a pretty common and big groundswell of support, particularly flag carriers like Qantas. And it's such an iconic brand in Australia. So there is this certain sort of wellspring of good will towards Qantas, and certainly the comments I was picking up today was, well, it's being done. Thankfully, we are going to get a resolution now and we'll move on.

The question, Kristie, is really, what will the international impact be? What will the effect be on its brand for inbound passengers, particularly people coming to Australia? They're spending their savings coming to Australia for tourism, to travel around. Is Qantas going to maintain their trust to actually get them to Australia and get them around this country, given that they have something like two-thirds of the domestic market as well?

So, that is a question that Qantas certainly hopes they can maintain, that good will amongst the international community. We'll just have to wait and see on that one.

STOUT: All right.

Andrew Stevens, joining us live in Sydney.

Thank you very much for that.

Now, Qantas is no small operation. In addition to being the biggest airline in Australia, it is the tenth largest in the world by passenger miles flown. The airline says it employs 32,500 people and it flies to more than 180 destinations.

So what sort of fleet would it need to keep up with that kind of traffic? Well, let's bring it up for you.

More than 100 planes, from a giant A380 superjumbo, a bunch right here you can see in the middle, to the tiny Boeing 737s at the bottom.

Now, we have some news just in from Libya that NATO Secretary-General Anders Fogh Rasmussen has just arrived in Tripoli. His arrival in the Libyan capital just a short time ago, it marks the end of the alliance's operations in the country.

And our Senior International Correspondent Matthew Chance traveled with Mr. Rasmussen from Brussels, joins me now on the live from Tripoli.

And Matthew, what did the secretary-general of NATO tell you about the mission in Libya?

MATTHEW CHANCE, CNN SR. INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Well, all of the NATO officials we've spoken to, particularly the secretary-general, are sort of casting this mission in Libya as an unmitigated success. They say they achieved all of their objectives. They say that they got in and out in a very clean way, which is something they haven't been able to do in Iraq and Afghanistan, of course.

And they also said that the civilian casualties as a result of this operation have been at the lowest possible level. In fact, they said there have been no confirmed civilian casualties resulting from NATO air strikes. Obviously, I challenged that, because even the National Transitional Council said that 30,000 people on both sides were killed as a result of this seven-month-long operation.

We sat down and we spoke for quite a while, Anders Fogh Rasmussen and I, on this aircraft coming from Brussels into Tripoli. He'll now be going on to meet Abdul Jalil, the chairman of the National Transitional Council. He'll be meeting members of sort of the youth community to talk about NATO later on in the day as well.

What he did say is that the operation in Libya did expose some of the shortcomings of the military alliance. For instance, it lacked resources, he said, in terms of intelligence-gathering, surveillance and reconnaissance. And he took the opportunity to urge NATO member states to invest more in that kind of technology so that the kind of operations that NATO embarked on here in Libya could potentially be repeated much more efficiently in the future -- Kristie.

STOUT: Matthew, did the NATO chief offer you any more information on that NATO strike that took place in Sirte on the same day Moammar Gadhafi was captured and killed?

CHANCE: No, but he said that when he saw the way in which Colonel Gadhafi was essentially lynched by the mob in Sirte, he looked upon those pictures with horror. But he said he was encouraged by the commitment by the Libyan authorities to investigate what happened, to investigate the killing.

One of the things he'll be doing, Anders Fogh Rasmussen, later on today is meeting NGOs later on this afternoon, people who are concerned with human rights, the protection of prisoner rights, accounting for the people who have been arrested or the people who have disappeared, because according to NATO officials, according to the secretary-general, again, one of the big priorities for NATO is human rights support, and for the support of democratic reform in Libya. And that's one of the reasons he says he's come here to pay tribute to Libya, and to mark what has been an exactly seven-month-long operation in the skies over Libya -- Kristie.

STOUT: Matthew Chance, many thanks indeed. I understand this was an exclusive interview that you had with Anders Fogh Rasmussen. We'll be airing it later, right here on CNN.

Matthew Chance, live on the line there.

Now, let's turn to Afghanistan now, where a truck bomb followed by a gun battle has killed four people in the southern Afghanistan city of Kandahar. Two militants were also killed.

It happened on Monday, outside the offices of a U.S. charity called International Relief and Development. An Afghan commander says assailants set off the truck bomb, then entered the compound and fired on security forces.

And for the very latest, let's go straight to CNN's Nick Paton Walsh. He's following developments from the Afghan capital, Kabul.

And Nick, any more details about how today's attack in Kandahar took place?

NICK PATON WALSH, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Well, this truck bomb seems to have exploded after dawn, quite actually near to a U.N. compound as well, and this U.S. charity, IRD. We're also hearing from sources in the government there that, in fact, an Afghan animal clinic nearby was also attacked. Two people who worked there amongst the dead.

We're also hearing of three dead militants and, actually, two dead Afghan police in this attack. Seemingly, a tactic we've seen a couple of times over the past few months, where militants appear to rush a building nearby their target and use that as a place from which to begin their assault.

But Afghan authorities clear now this instant is over, although it is, of course, the second in four days to hit the city of Kandahar. As recent as Thursday, the U.S. provincial reconstruction team -- that's the civilian military body in charge of developments in certain areas -- attacked in a similar fashion, also by insurgents -- Kristie.

STOUT: Now, this attack in Kandahar, it follows a Kabul suicide bombing on Saturday which killed a number of U.S. and international troops and civilians. And do you have new details on what happened?

WALSH: Absolutely. There have been many questions as to exactly how was this suicide bomber able to have such precise detail as to the whereabouts and timing of this NATO convoy? Now, remember a vehicle was rammed into a heavily-armored rhino (ph) bus causing this 13 ISAF casualties.

Now, we understand from the Afghan Interior Ministry that they have early evidence suggesting that the Haqqani network -- that's a sophisticated insurgent group often accused of having safe havens and technical support in Pakistan -- that they were behind this particular attack.

Let's hear what the Afghan Interior Ministry's spokesman had to say.


SEDIQ SEDDIQI, AFGHAN INTERIOR MINISTRY SPOKESMAN: But indications show that it was yet another Haqqani network that conducted this suicide attack.


WALSH: This is exactly what we're hearing at this stage. Vital, of course, because in the coming two days, we're going to be seeing a conference between Pakistan and Afghanistan trying to discuss peace. And accusations already running extremely high that Pakistan is not doing enough to circumvent and restrain and repress the Haqqanis, who have discovered in the past few months a remarkable new reach conducting sophisticated attacks in the heart of Kabul -- Kristie.

STOUT: So the Haqqani network now being blamed for that attack on Saturday in Kabul.

Nick Paton Walsh, with the very latest.

Thank you very much, indeed.

You are watching NEWS STREAM. And still ahead, flooding in Bangkok. We take an up-close look at some of the damage.

Plus, snow before Halloween. An unusually early snowstorm in the U.S. wreaks havoc on the country's East Coast.

And upsizing the world's population. There are now more than 7 billion of us and counting.


STOUT: Welcome back.

Now, all eyes were on Thailand's capital this weekend, but it appears that the risk of catastrophic flooding in central Bangkok has receded. There are, however, new health concerns for vast areas submerged in filthy floodwater. And charities are warning of water and insect-borne disease like diarrhea, dengue fever, and malaria in the coming weeks.

And there's heartbreak for residents who did return home.


UNIDENTIFIED MALE: This is the site of Romeo's (ph) house right here.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Here. Here. This is a fence right here, and we're going to go over the fence. Or we just go to the front gate.


STOUT: Romeo Romay (ph) had to evacuate his wife and two small children by boat from their flooded house, but they have no idea when they'll be able to move back in.

One resident told CNN that water in the flooded areas of the city is black, it contains sewage, garbage, and even dead animals.

Now, more than 370 people have died in the floods, and millions have been affected.


STOUT: And up next here on NEWS STREAM, another race, another clash between two of Formula 1's top drivers. Don Riddell will join me with more on Lewis Hamilton and Felipe Massa's heated rivalry after the break.


STOUT: Wow. A gorgeous crescent moon in the skies above Hong Kong. Perfect for this Halloween night.

You're back watching NEWS STREAM.

Sebastian Vettel was the winner again at the Indian Grand Prix, but all eyes were on the heated battle between two other high-profile drivers further down.

Let's get more from Don Riddell -- Don.


Yes, Vettel has once again emphasized his dominance in Formula 1 with a supreme drive at the inaugural Indian Grand Prix. But it was a couple of big-name drivers further down the field that made the headlines yet again.

Now, during a moment of silence for the late Dan Wheldon and Marcus Simincelli (ph), McLaren's Lewis Hamilton tried to make up with Ferrari's Felipe Massa. The two have crashed several times this season, and they were soon in trouble again.

On Lap 24, as Hamilton tried to pass Massa's Ferrari, the Brazilian turned into him. Massa was penalized by the stewards. Hamilton needed a new front wing.

Out in front, the double world drivers champion Sebastian Vettel was in a class of his own. The Red Bull man led from pole position, recording his 11th win of the season. He even posted the fastest lap just before taking the checkered flag.

Meanwhile, the feud between Hamilton and Massa is becoming increasingly bitter. Their attraction to each other on the track has been described as magnetic by the McLaren team principal, Martin Whitmarsh.

Their rivalry dates back to 2008, when Massa won the Brazilian Grand Prix and thought he had won the driver's title in front of his own fans. But his hopes were dashed seconds later, when Hamilton overtook team McGlock (ph) to finish fifth and snatch the title by a single point.

Fast forward to this season, and the two men have clashed repeatedly on the track. On no less than six occasions, they've been scrapping for the same piece of road.

Hamilton accepted responsibility for the incident in Japan, and was penalized for what went on in Monaco and Singapore. Massa was considered the guilty party here in India, and team principals at Ferrari and McLaren say that both men need to make peace and bury the hatchet.

Will new management mean renewed inspiration for Rory McIlroy on the golf course? Well, just days after parting with his longtime agent, Chubby Chandler, the U.S. Open champion went out and banked the biggest paycheck of his career.

The 22-year-old from Northern Ireland beat America's Anthony Kim in a playoff to win the Shanghai Masters on Sunday. The event, which had a field of only 30 golfers, wasn't sanctioned by a major tour, but it was certainly the biggest prize of the season, $2 million the first prize, and McIlroy. It was his second win of the season, and he hopes to build on the momentum towards the climax of the European Tour calendar.

Now, you know what they say about buses? You wait ages for one, and then two come along at the same time.

Sergio Garcia knows the feeling. Having waited three years to win a tournament, he's just gone and won two in the space of a week. This one came on home soil at the Andalucia Masters, where Sergio's Spanish compatriot, Miguel Angel Jimenez, was also in the hunt. Jimenez had an eagle chance on the 17th, but he had to settle for birdie and ended up in second place, just a shot behind Garcia.

Now, this time last week, Garcia was romping to an 11-stroke victory at the Castello Masters. This was a little closer, but no less deserved.

He teed off with a two-stroke lead, but bogies at 6 and 7 knocked him off the top of the leaderboard. But as you can see, he recovered superbly and he very nearly chipped in for a birdie on the 18th. As it turns out, he had already done enough and was able to celebrate his second title in the space of a week.

And that's all the sports we've got time for just now, Kristie. We'll see you later for "WORLD SPORT."

STOUT: Don, thank you. And take care.

Now, there are now more than 7 billion of us in the world. And ahead, CNN's iReporters try to visualize the milestone.

And picture this: Cairo's Tahrir Square occupying Wall Street. Ben Wedeman will explain the latest.

Stay with us.


STOUT: I'm Kristie Lu Stout in Hong Kong. You're watching News Stream. And these are your headlines.

Australian airline Qantas has resumed flights almost two days after grounding its entire fleet, stranding tens of thousands of passengers around the world. Qantas said a long running dispute with its unions was making it impossible to operate. A labor tribunal ordered the airline to resume services earlier on Monday, but it would take until Wednesday for flights to return to normal.

The humanitarian organization Doctors Without Borders says an air strike on an aid camp in Somalia has killed three people. A spokesman for the Kenyan military, which told Reuters it was responsible says no civilians died. He says Kenyan forces attacked members of the militant Islamist group al Shabaab and killed 10 of them.

Five people died, and millions remain without power, after severe snow storm in the northeastern United States over the weekend. The storm, unusual this early in the year, blanketed the region in white.

On this last day of October, a global first, there's estimated there are now 7 billion people on the planet, that's 1 billion more than just 12 years ago. And it took us faster than ever to reach this milestone.

Now the world hit this 1 billion mark back in 1800. It took another 130 years to reach 2 billion. Now the population is growing so fast, there is a baby born nearly every second in India. And that's where, according to some reports, the 7 billionth baby was born today.

Now the Philippines, Bangladesh, Laos, and the Maldives each claim a symbolic 7 billionth baby as well. And our Sumnima Udas joins us live from New Delhi. And Sumnima, demographers say that the milestone baby might have been born in India. Perhaps he or she is right behind you. And describe where you are.

SUMNIMA UDAS, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: That's right, Kristie. I'm standing in a maternity ward in New Delhi. And the 7 billionth child may very well be behind me, but while it's impossible to predict exactly where or when the 7 billionth baby was born, a lot of organizations like the United Nations are saying the 7 billionth baby was most likely be born in India, in the state of Uttar Pradesh, actually, where the (inaudible) population's 200 million people, that's the size of UK, Germany and France combined. It's also one of the poorest states in India.

So authorities here saying while this is a milestone, this is not something -- this is not something we should be celebrating quite yet, because India obviously has huge population problems. It's got just 2 percent of the land mass of the world, but it's also got a fifth of the world's population -- Kristie.

STOUT: What is it like to grow up there in Delhi, in one of the most population dense places on the planet?

UDAS: Delhi is actually a great, sort of, example of what it's like to grow up in a very over crowded place. Right now, I'm in New Delhi, in a very posh hospital in New Delhi, but just 30 minutes away is old Delhi, which according to the census bureau in India one of the most densely populated areas in India, about 29,000 people live there per square kilometers, that's the size of New York City roughly. But at least in New York City you have high rise buildings, but here the maximum height maybe five stories. So you can just imagine how many people are crammed together.

And if you just take a walk down there, or drive down there in the evenings, there is just people everywhere. In the evenings people don't have places to stay, so people are sleeping on the street.

So really the government is having a hard time and it's not just the population -- the number of births here, but it's also the number of people moving into cities like Delhi and Mumbai. It's got a huge rural to urban migration problem, about 1,000 people move into these big cities every day. And cities like Delhi and Mumbai are really having a difficult time coping with it.

STOUT: It sounds like in certain parts of the country there are more people than local resources can sustain. So how is the Indian government is addressing its own population bomb?

UDAS: Well, India has -- it's not easy for India to do too much, actually, because in a democracy you can't exactly tell people not to have babies. They have some awareness programs in place. They had in the 1970s some very draconian policies of sterilization, but that was slammed by people so they went away with that. And since then the government are really focusing on an advocacy advocating rather than forcing people. So in states like Ragistan (ph) they've started the car, or cash for sterilization program. It's a very recent scheme, but -- so we'll see how its working.

But India is trying to do a lot in terms of this problem. The health minister just came out and said this is something that -- it's the number one problem right now for India.

STOUT: Sumnima, thank you very much for that. Sumnima Udas joining us live from a maternity ward there in New Delhi, India.

And to wrap your mind around just how big the number 7 billion is, consider this 7 billion seconds ago, the year was 1789 and George Washington was U.S. president, that brand-new nation's first.

Now ireporters have also been coming up with some creative ways to visualize 7 billion.

Now 22-year-old Luke Georgette (ph) he figured out to name everyone on Earth, he would have to name 10 people per second for every second he's been alive.

Veronica Mendoza sent us this video showing a grain of rice. Now that grain of rice makes a cup of rice, 5 cups make a kilogram, but to get to 7 billion grains of rice, you would need nearly 200,000 kilograms.

And then there's Cocky the Rooster.


UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Hello, children. Our planet now has 7 billion people on it. Do you know how many 7 billion is? No? Well, maybe this song will help you figure it out.



STOUT: Well, I'm not a fan of hand puppets, but the creativity there very well appreciated.

So hopefully all of that helped you visualize 7 billion. But just in case you're still trying to wrap your head around this big number, Richard Roth, he goes where few men have gone before in New York City.


RICHARD ROTH, CNN CORRESPONDENT: 7 billion, hard to believe and hold up.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It's a humongous that's beyond most people's comprehension.

ROTH: 7 billion people on planet Earth.


ROTH : As in billion.



ROTH: A symbolic, but powerful number.

Have you seen these people, the 7 billion?


ROTH: Have you created any of those 7 billion?


ROTH: Not?

Oh, baby. This hospital arrival looks like he wants to accept the prize, but emerged too early. Another baby's mother, not disappointed at just missing producing the 7 billionth human.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Oh, wow. No (inaudible).

ROTH: What does the 7 billion, as indicated in this sign in front of the UN, what does that mean to you as a demographer?

JOHN BONGAARTS, POPULATION COUNCIL: That's very large that we have increased the population of the world by an enormous amount in a very short time. We're adding 75 million people every year.

ROTH: They're everywhere.

It also seems there are 7 billion baby carriages in Manhattan.

Why did you decide to have a child, if I may ask, with so many people on the planet?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I live in Ohio, and it doesn't seem to be as crowded. I moved out of New York.

ROTH: Why is your child now crying, since I asked you that question?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: They don't want people to have any more kids.

ROTH: I didn't say that.

As the secretary-general of the world are you ready to tell people stop having children, or at least in Manhattan?

BAN KI-MOON, SECRETARY-GENERAL OF THE UN: That's make sure that this 7 billionth child can live without any shortages, can live in peace...

ROTH: Ladies, good evening. I'm Richard Roth of CNN.

I entered a womb-like environment in the back of a Mexican restaurant where few men had gone before.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Just living in Manhattan you feel so sort of claustrophobic and you think that number is just massive.

ROTH: It's a new mom support luncheon. Hm, baby knows what's coming.

What do you think about bringing a child into this world with 7 billion people? When is enough enough?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I didn't even ever give it a second thought? Yeah. It means nothing to me.

ROTH: The child or the 7 billion?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: The child means everything. If you told people in the 1800s to stop having babies where would we be now? So, it's -- I say keep doing it.

ROTH: Richard Roth, CNN, New York.


STOUT: Still ahead here on News Stream, what's the Egyptian flag doing flying at the Occupy Wall Street protest in New York? Find out after the break.


STOUT: Welcome back.

Now from Tunis to Cairo to Tripoli and beyond, it has been a year of upheaval in the Middle East. And with the Occupy Wall Street movement mass protests have also sprouted up across the globe.

Our Ben Wedeman covered each of the Arab Spring revolutions. And he, and an Egyptian activist visit the epicenter of the Occupy Wall Street movement to compare notes.


BEN WEDEMAN, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: The Egyptian flag flies beneath the Stars and Stripes at Zuccotti Park, home to the Occupy Wall Street movement. Egyptian activist Ahmed Maher helped organized the uprising that brought down Hosni Mubarak and is in New York to have a look and share some advice.

AHMED MAHER, EGYPTIAN ACTIVIST: They need more clear vision and more clear, or written goals, or written demands. And the plan and how to reach more people.

WEDEMAN: It Ahmed and others like him 18 days to bring down the man they called The Pharaoh. It was preceded, however, by years of careful organizing under far more difficult conditions.

Compared to Mubarak's brutal security (inaudible), Ahmed says New York police are a pushover.

MAHER: During the (inaudible), the day before yesterday, we asked them for (inaudible). Where are the (inaudible).

WEDEMAN: In Cairo, the message was simple: the people wanted to topple the regime.

Here it's about corporate greed, Wall Street excesses. But on the fringe others are jumping on board. Some causes well known, others who knows.

It seems a far cry from the mass movement in the Arab world.

In terms of scale there really isn't any comparison. Hundreds of thousands of people crammed into Tahrir Square for 18 days, bringing down the regime of Hosni Mubarak. Here in New York, all you have to do is go one block up and you wouldn't know anything is going on.

But there are similarities. In Zuccotti Park, as in Tahrir Square, the curious might be students form the Bronx are watching the committed.

Do you think that the people on Wall Street, the people in the government, are listening to your voice?


UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: If there's enough people they would.

WEDEMAN: Now you're just -- you're from school here. You're just on like a field trip or something?


WEDEMAN: Are you going to come back here after school?


WEDEMAN: You are.



UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Because I don't got his (inaudible) so my mother has to pay for my doctor and stuff.


UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes. And she got two jobs.

WEDEMAN: Psycho therapist Charles Lewinski is on the other side of the barrier.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I've been reading about it and hearing about it and I thought I'd come down and see what it's about.

WEDEMAN: What's your impression?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It's well -- it's needed. It's a voice that I can identify with. Typically, the way the economy is going, and a lot of these young people are now strapped with loans and have no way of repaying these loans, and the mortgage crisis.

WEDEMAN: In Cairo, the state media initially described the protesters as misfits, a similar suggestion here that makes some bristle.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We're not just a bunch of hippies out here having a little party. Like I said we're workers of all different types. And we like some jobs, that'll be kind of nice.

So how can we accomplish all this?

WEDEMAN: You can mock the messenger, the message however is serious.

Ben Wedeman, CNN, New York.


STOUT: Now ahead on News Stream, was Steve Jobs' sister considers to be the showman's final achievement? It may surprise you. Stay with us.


STOUT: The final words of Apple co-founder Steve Jobs were revealed by his sister. Now the New York Times published Mona Simpson's eulogy on Sunday. In it, she said "death didn't just happen to Steve, he achieved it."

We wanted to highlight what Simpson said were his last words. They were, "oh wow, oh wow, oh wow."

Now the weather is causing havoc on the East Coast of the United States. A freak October snow storm brought weekend and Monday morning chaos in several states. I'm joined now by Chad Myers in York, Pennsylvania with the latest. And Chad, how have you been feeling the effects of this freak snow storm?

CHAD MYERS, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Well, you know, we have power. We have heat. So the effects for us as a crew not bad. But it got down to two below zero last night. And if you didn't have power in your house like 3 million people for a time did not have power, that would have been a very cold night.

Hotels have filled up, because a lot of the hotels do have power, or some type of back-up generator. And so people are trying to stay there. Families, especially with young kids are coming to the hotels.

Others, they say are getting down to about 50 to 60 degrees Fahrenheit, which is about 10 degrees C inside their homes without power.

Now this has been going on for 36 hours without power. Many of the crews that have been putting up lines, saying you know we have so many power lines to put back up today. We won't get this done until Wednesday or Thursday here in Pennsylvania, or maybe as late as Friday in Connecticut.

So what is this all about? This is not just some random event that America couldn't take care of, it was the fact that we still had leaves on the trees and very heavy snow landing on the leaves. Well, eventually a couple tons of snow on the leaves, the branches broke. As the branches broke, it brought down the power lines. If any of the power lines, especially in the older neighborhoods of America, they have the power lines above on polls.

Now the newer neighborhoods have the power lines buried under ground and there was no real lack of service there, or break in service.

But those power lines that are up above with the trees coming down, it has just been one nightmare after another for the people living here.

Airports a little bit slow this morning in northeast, but other than that we're in pretty good shape. Temperatures today should get up to about 10. That will melt more snow. And we'll also let the power crews get those lines back up as much as possible. But not everybody is going to get power today.

STOUT: All right. Chad Myers joining us live from York, Pennsylvania. Thank you very much for that.

Let's get more details now from Guillermo Arduino from the world weather center. Guillermo, just how unusual is this even? And why a freak snow storm when it's only the end of October?

GUILLERMO ARDUINO, CNN WEATHER CORRESPONDENT: Well, those are the secrets of meteorology. You have to have a direct line with the weather gods.

So it's clearly possible, right? And like we were talking about a hurricane in the Yucatan Peninsula that then became a tropical storm in the last days. And in contraposition we see this. So -- which is quite interesting.

Look at the sheer numbers, too. In New Hampshire, 80 centimeters. That's a lot of snow. And -- but then wait until I show you what's going to happen in the future, and that's even better. 58 centimeters in Massachusetts.

What's going to happen in the future is nothing in the northeast. That's why it's interesting. In the New England states too.

Well, a lot of it here in the extreme north, in Canadian territory we see a lot more snow, but in the United States only in the Rockies and in the north -- in the Midwest is where we see some chance of it, but not around Michigan. All the way closer to the west.

If you're watching from Europe, I want you to know that it's pleasant. It's OK. It's going to be fine. We see into tomorrow morning, northern Africa there with some strong winds, bad weather. And then it's clearing in France, so it's going to be fantastic in Paris, especially as we move to the east, that high pressure continues to remain in control. So all the way into Turkey we see OK conditions. And the storms, especially in western parts of Europe. But it's not going to be that cold. Even Scandinavia with teens.

Stockholm a high of 13. London 16 degrees. 21 the high for Rome.

And finally, remember the situation in Thailand. We continue to see nice weather conditions in Bangkok, though the floods prevail, and we need time for those waters to recede -- Kristie.

STOUT: Guillermo, thank you.

Now if you've got an iPhone you'll know all about auto-correct. That is the feature that automatically corrects any spelling mistakes you might make. There's just one problem, sometimes the auto-correct gets it wrong and the results can be hilarious.

Tina Kim explains.


TINA KIM, CNN CORRESPONDENT: At first, it's just a chuckle, or a giggle, but then the snickers get longer and the laughs become so hard they literally take the breath away.

I showed my colleagues this web site called Damn You Auto-Correct, which features text messages ruined by auto-correction, that's the smartphone feature used to fix misspellings. But once in awhile, auto-correct inserts words the phone user never intended.

Web site founder Jillian Madison choses the most chuckle worthy from 400 or 500 hundred submissions a day. Her business idea came to life after she was burned one too many times.

JILLIAN MADISON, FOUNDER, DAMNYOUAUTOCORRECT.COM: The straw that broke the camel's back was I sent an e-mail to a friend of mine asking her if she'd ever fondled herself. I meant to ask her if she had ever Googled herself.

KIM: That was one year ago this October. Now she says she gets 1.25 million page views a day, and lots of doubters who say the texts can not be real.

MADISON: You know, again, just from the sheer volume of submissions that I get. I refuse to believe there's millions of people out there making up fake auto-corrects.

KIM: Madison explains people can't replicate some auto-corrections, because the feature corrects differently for each user, learning from what's commonly typed.

MADISON: That person has definitely typed that into their phone before. That's kind of an insight into their psyche.

You know, we're communicating, typing, talking so fast we're not even you know, saying, hey, you know, let me look at what I'm sending before I'm hitting send.

KIM: Fast, but not so fast you can't stop to laugh at just how stupid a smartphone makes us look.

Tina Kim, CNN.


STOUT: Now I want to take you over and out there now with a little Halloween fun. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to come up with the coolest and most creative costume ever. Well, except in this case meet a NASA engineer Mark Rober (ph), he had the brilliant idea to duct tape two iPad 2s, one on his front and the back and he turned on FaceTime video chat, added a little bit of red paint and voila, there is a bloody gaping hole through his chest. And Mark adds, if the party you're at is, quote, kind of lame, you can always play Angry Birds.

And that is News Stream, but before we go I just want to bring you one last piece of news to you. Now UNESCO has just voted to accept a Palestinian bid for full membership. The vote was 107 in favor, 14 against, 52 abstentions. And the vote puts the agency on a collision course with the United States. A House subcommittee has threatened to pull the financial plug. The U.S. provides more than 20 percent of UNESCO's budget.

We will have much more on this story in the hours ahead right here on CNN. World Business Today is next.