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ISSUES WITH JANE VELEZ-MITCHELL

Severed Body Parts Found Near Hollywood Sign

Aired January 18, 2012 - 19:00   ET

THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY BE UPDATED.


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JANE VELEZ-MITCHELL, HOST (voice-over): A real-life Hollywood horror story. Two women walking their dogs find a man`s severed head near the world-famous Hollywood sign. What secrets will this severed head reveal? Who is this man, and what happened to him?

Plus, a boy brutally beaten by seven teenagers, and the video of this horrific attack goes viral. The footage captures the mob laughing as this poor victim is punched, choked, stomped on and called racial slurs. So why do cops insist this attack was not racially motivated?

(on camera) What do you think of this video? We`re taking your calls.

(voice-over): And football star Deion Sanders` divorce gets messy, his wife calls him a serial cheater, and now there`s a Twitter war. What`s going on behind closed doors?

(on camera) Let`s see what secrets we`ll uncover tonight.

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JIM MORET, HLN ANCHOR: The gruesome discovery in the Hollywood Hills area, where two women found a severed head in a bag. It`s the part underneath that famous Hollywood sign. The women who found the head were walking the dogs, and the dogs actually found the bag first and began playing with it.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: The women took a look and discovered it was a severed head.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: It was not far off the trail. They were able to see it without walking off the trail. So, you know, it was nearby.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Sources tell me there`s speculation there could be other bags out within that crime scene with other body parts inside. Tonight, though, Los Angeles Police Department has not confirmed that information.

MIKE BROOKS, HLN LAW ENFORCEMENT ANALYST: It`s fairly rugged, fairly rural, but are there other body parts out there? That`s what we don`t know.

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VELEZ-MITCHELL: And the answer is yes, because this is breaking news that we`re going to bring you right now this in this real-life horror in Hollywood. Severed body parts discovered near the famous Hollywood sign in Los Angeles. The third body part discovered just moments ago.

Good evening. Jane Velez-Mitchell coming to you live from New York City.

We`re going to begin in Los Angeles where two women were merely out walking their dogs when they made a gruesome discovery. In the shadows of the famous Hollywood sign, they find a severed head wrapped in a plastic bag.

The terrible find was made when two of their dogs started playing with this thing. Imagine: your dog`s playing with something. You reach down to see what it is, and it`s a freshly-severed human head. Now, that`s what I call a shocker.

Cops raced to the scene, and soon they find another severed body part in the brush.

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ANDREW SMITH, LOS ANGELES POLICE COMMANDER: A severed human hand has been located. It`s in close proximity to the severed head so we have every reason to believe that it`s the same individual.

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VELEZ-MITCHELL: All right, and we`re going to show you some live pictures right now. This is the investigation ongoing at this moment, because just moments ago, they found the third body part. The other hand. All right? The third, so we`re talking about three body parts. Cops believe they belong to the very same man.

Why did somebody behead this mystery man and chop off both of his hands and then scatter them near the Hollywood sign? Was he murdered to hide a toxic secret?

We`re told that he`s a white male between 40 and 60 with salt-and- pepper hair. By the way, I want to hear your theories and questions about this case. Call me: 1-877-JVM-SAYS. That`s 1-877-586-7297.

Straight out to my Los Angeles producer, Selin Darkalstanian, who is on the scene as this breaking news unfolds.

Selin, what have they just found? What`s going on?

SELIN DARKALSTANIAN, HLN PRODUCER: Jane, just moments ago the LAPD came out here. You can see them right there. And they said that they found a third body part, believed to be the same person, and it was the second hand that was discovered.

Now, right here beside me, you see there`s a lot of activity. We just saw the coroner coming out. We saw the firemen going in. And this is exactly where the trail starts. This is one of the only trails that leads you straight to the Hollywood sign. And over there you can see a 360 view of Los Angeles. Right over the hill is where the actual Hollywood sign is. It`s a huge famous landmark here in Los Angeles. And this is a huge popular tourist destination for people.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: All right. Well, yes, it is iconic, the Hollywood sign known around the world. It`s been in hundreds and hundreds of movies.

The bat cave from that 1960s TV show, "Batman," right there, right in the area. A look at the recent movie, "Friends with Benefits," you can see it.

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MILA KUNIS, ACTRESS: Have you ever done this before?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: This is LAPD.

JUSTIN TIMBERLAKE, ACTOR/SINGER: I have a fear of heights.

KUNIS: Why would you come up here?

TIMBERLAKE: You (UNINTELLIGIBLE).

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: This is your last warning.

KUNIS: They actually wrapped you in a foil blanket.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Oh, my God! That`s good.

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VELEZ-MITCHELL: And why would a killer drop body parts right there? Police believe the body was moved and brought to this area for disposal.

I want go to Pete Demetriou, field reporter, KNS 1070, who is an old friend of mine and who knows Los Angeles like nobody else.

Pete, back then when I was reporting in Los Angeles, we always would talk about bodies being dumped in the Angeles National Forest, this huge forest. Why not take a body there? Why go to this area that is so heavily traveled by tourists and is bound -- people are bound to find these body parts?

PETE DEMETRIOU, FIELD REPORTER: Well, basically, it`s proximity. You would have to think that it`s fairly close to where the person actually did the killing and then move today parts to various locations.

Angeles, as you mentioned, the Angeles National Forest, is about 30 or 40 miles away. Here, it`s convenience, and there is a reason why you can dispose of a body in the Griffith Park/Bronson Canyon area. You have a lot of wild life there. If you really toss it and there`s some dense brush, it`s entirely possible that the animals could dispose of those body parts fairly quickly.

Apparently, that didn`t happen, because police say that the head and the hands were recently -- well, if you want to call it severed from the body. And by recently, anywhere from one to two days. Decomposition has not set in. Animals have not had a chance to chew over the remains or anything else. And that in some ways is good for the police department, because the coroner will then be able to take those hands and possibly lift fingerprints off them. With fingerprints, they can get an identity.

We understand also that the head is not in that bad shape either. So in essence, if they get a fingerprint I.D. and/or a photo I.D., they can match it against what they have at the coroner`s office, meaning the head itself.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Yes, but people always talk about dental records. In this case, you have a mystery head. And I`ve got to ask: what do these very few clues tell us about this individual who was a victim as well as about the killer or killers?

DEMETRIOU: We really don`t know that much about the victim itself, nothing in the way of any scars, marks, identification. There was no jewelry, from what I understand, found on either of the hands. So that doesn`t give you any clues.

Again, a man 40 to 60 years old, white male, salt-and-pepper hair. No indications beyond that of what that individual might have done and, again, trying to find evidence, if you will, about the crime itself. You -- what you basically have is body parts here. This body, this person was killed elsewhere, and these body parts were taken and were thrown into specific areas of Griffith Park. The head and the hands only separated by about 50 yards.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: All right. Well, let`s listen to this. Again, very few clues, but listen.

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SMITH: It`s hard to go into a killer`s mind to try to figure out what they`re trying to do. But this is -- it was found in a somewhat remote area off of the main trails and off on some of the secondary trails. So if the dog or whatever hadn`t disturbed it, it might not have been found. So it`s fortunate for us that the dog was up there.

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VELEZ-MITCHELL: And I think it`s very significant, Jon Lieberman, investigative reporter, Howard 100 News, Sirius XM, that this was a grocery bag. What can they do with that?

JON LIEBERMAN, INVESTIGATIVE REPORTER: Well, it is, Jane. And right now, what police are trying to figure out is did this killer leave this head basically in plain sight to taunt the police? Almost put it on display?

Or was the killer rushed when trying to get rid of some of these body parts and that`s why now we`re seeing two hands being found and a head being found and expect more body parts to be found.

The other thing that police are doing is they`re combing through missing person`s records right now, too, to see if anybody has been reported missing in the last 48 hours that might match this description.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Well, of course, the first thing I thought about -- Steve Moore, you`re a former FBI agent. They have a freshly severed head. OK? This is gruesome stuff, but we want to find out who this individual is. Obviously, somebody out there is missing a husband, a boyfriend, a son, a father, somebody.

And since they know what this person looks like, they don`t want to be graphic about it. We have just a little outline that we can show you. Why don`t they do a sketch based on the severed head and find out who this victim is, because when somebody sees a very careful sketch, it`s not gruesome, but it could -- obviously, they could identify him?

STEVE MOORE, FORMER FBI AGENT: I think I`d be surprised if a sketch doesn`t come out in the next couple of days. And really, 24, 48 hours is really a little early to even find missing person reports right now.

I think this may have had something to do -- it doesn`t smack of a sexual crime. It doesn`t smack of a serial killer type thing. To me it smacks of an organized crime killing. I can be wrong, but it just -- it seems to me more of "We want to remove the head and the hands and move them a long way from where the body is found so that it`s not identifiable. It seems like almost for a professional operation rather than some kind of nut case going out there.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Let`s go to the phone lines. Evonda, Kentucky, your question or thought?

CALLER: I was just wondering if they had any kind of cameras out there?

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Excellent question. I can throw it out to Selin.

You`re there at the scene. This is the famous sign. Do they have security cameras in the area?

DARKALSTANIAN: No, they don`t have security cameras here. This is -- this is a park. I mean, right over here it starts, and it`s pretty wooded, and it goes to that area. And actually the LAPD just came over to us and told us that this park is going to be closed tomorrow because more investigators will be out and more people from the coroner`s office will be coming out.

There`s a sign behind me, if you can see here. It says the park closes at sunset, but they just notified us that it will be closed tomorrow so they expect a lot more activity here tomorrow, and maybe more body parts.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Unbelievable. Great reporting out there, Selin, but don`t go anywhere. We`ve got more on the mysterious body parts. A severed head fresh, and two hands, all believed to belong to the same man, discovered in the Hollywood Hills right near the famous Hollywood sign.

And we`re taking your calls: 1-877-JVM-SAYS, 1-877-586-7297.

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SMITH: It`s hard to go into a killer`s mind to figure out what they`re trying to do, but this -- it was found in a somewhat remote area off of the main trails and off of some of the secondary trails. So if the dog or whatever hadn`t disturbed it, it may not have been found, so it was fortunate for us that the dog was up there.

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SMITH: A severed human hand has been located. It`s in close proximity to the severed head so we have every reason to believe that it`s the same individual.

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VELEZ-MITCHELL: Breaking news, we`re going to show you live pictures now from the area right around the Hollywood sign in Hollywood. And there are cop cars converged on that scene, because just moments ago they found a third body part, our producer, Selin Darkalstanian, is standing by to bring us the very latest.

I have to tell you though, when I first about the severed head and then I heard about arm one and hand two, I thought, well, could it be a drug cartel? We certainly hear about severed heads related to drug violence across the border. Look at these. These are real headlines.

The police say they don`t think this was some kind of message. But it`s certainly not your average murder. The other thing that occurs to me is some kind of ritualistic serial killing. A sadist who gains some kind of pleasure out of doing these kinds of ritualistic killings.

Jon Lieberman, what are your thoughts about possibilities?

LIEBERMAN: Well, I`ve seen gang initiations that end up this way, as well. So for example, in order for somebody to get into a gang, they`re told to go behead a victim. So you always have that possibility, as well.

What works in police -- in the police favor here are a couple things. One, there are a lot of trash cans in this area, and they don`t get emptied, I understand, until Friday, so if the killer dumped some remains into one of these area trash cans, it`s not going to get dumped for a couple more days. They`re going to find those now.

And plus, with the head being fresh and the hands being fairly fresh, police are going to try very hard to get some DNA, to get some prints and compare it, see if they can I.D. this victim quickly.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: I hope they do come up with a sketch. You were saying to me during the break, Jon, that you don`t think they want to do it too hastily, because they want to make sure it`s good and they get an accurate sketch out.

Here`s what this case reminded me of, another tragedy we covered here on ISSUES quite extensively. Do you remember the reality TV star, Ryan Jenkins, who is believed to have murdered his beautiful model girlfriend, Jasmine Fiore? And he allegedly cut off her fingers and pulled out her teeth to make it harder for police to identify her. And he ultimately committed suicide and is believed to be responsible for this beautiful woman`s death.

Steve Moore, is that another possible reason why these hands were cut off, to hide evidence?

MOORE: Absolutely. The hands provide more evidence on people than the average person on the street would understand. Not only do they give you fingerprints which would identify the victim, but when somebody struggles against a murderer, there are bits of the murderer`s skin under their nails. Maybe hairs. There`s lots of things that could tie the victim at that point to the murderer themselves.

And then of course, the head just makes it -- it will tell you what the mode of death was, usually. You have a bullet wound, you could have the indications of a smothering or a strangulation. The head and the hands really tell a huge story. And by taking them away, you have really handicapped the police if you find just a headless, handless body.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: All right. Let`s go back to the phones. Adrian, Illinois, your question or thought, Adrian?

CALLER: Well, I think you just touched upon what I was going to say. I think that the head and hands were removed. I think the body is elsewhere. And the body probably doesn`t have too many identifying marks on it. So, they took the most obvious identification methods, removed them from the body, threw them where they would probably most rapidly decompose, and the body, I`m guessing, will show up elsewhere.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Well, Pete Demetriou, field reporter, KNS 1070, you have many police sources. You`ve been covering that area for years. Are you getting any kind of sense of what`s behind this from your sources?

DEMETRIOU: It`s wide open at this point, but a lot of things which people have talked about in the last couple of minutes can probably be discounted.

There`s nothing which indicates this is any kind of a serial pattern, at least from the people that I`ve talked with with the LAPD. As to how professional it is, we`re not certain. We don`t know whether the cuts were surgical or rough, in as much as how the head and hands were removed from this particular body at this time.

Something else: they`re going in and looking at this area very, very intensively. It`s not a tight area that they`re searching. The head and the hands are 50 yards apart. But they are searching a seven-acre area in that park.

You`ve got 30 members of LAPD homicide division, the detectives there who are the specialists who are in there searching. A dozen people from the L.A. County Coroner`s Office. They brought in six members of LAPD metropolitan divisions...

VELEZ-MITCHELL: OK.

DEMETRIOU: ... climbing cadre to go up and down the various canyons, and even mounted units are going to be there. So they`re throwing a lot of resources at this area, searching today and tomorrow.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Of course, because we are all talking about it. And Selin Darkalstanian, our producer there at the scene, we`re going to go back to you. Tell us about this area. I`ve been there. I lived in Los Angeles for 18 years. It`s an affluent area. How are people reacting there tonight?

DARKALSTANIAN: As I was driving up here, and I`ve done this hike many times myself. As I was driving up here, and I`ve done this hike many times. And as I was driving up here, there`s still a lot of joggers, moms with their baby strollers, hikers, people walking their dogs. It`s a very affluent community, like you said. There`s million-dollar homes all over.

Why would somebody do that here? I mean, it`s such a weird location. It`s a very, very nice neighborhood here. And this is a very popular tourist destination behind me.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: All right, we`ve got another caller. Shirley, Indiana, your question or thought, Shirley?

CALLER: Yes, is the area secured? I mean, do they have tight security in the area?

VELEZ-MITCHELL: I`m going go back to Selin. What about security?

DARKALSTANIAN: I`ve hiked here on a weekend, on the weekdays. I mean, there isn`t that much security. I mean, these gates are open, and they close at sunset, but there`s a lot of people around. That`s the thing. This place isn`t that deserted; it`s not that empty. There`s a lot of people around. Even now as you`re walking up, you see a lot of hikers and joggers.

So maybe somebody did this in the middle of the night. But there`s a lot of people around here. There isn`t a lot of security guards, but there`s a lot of people.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Yes. The head discovered yesterday. Then, the second hand discovered moments ago.

A young man brutally beaten. There`s a shocking video.

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SMITH: It`s hard to go into a killer`s mind to figure out what they are trying do, but this was found in a somewhat remote area off of the main trails and off of some of the secondary trails, so if the dog or whatever hadn`t disturbed it, it might not have been found. So it`s fortunate for us that the dog was up there.

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VELEZ-MITCHELL: And we`re bringing you fast-breaking news. Take a look at these live pictures. Law enforcement converging on the park where the Hollywood sign is.

Moments ago they discovered a third body part. So you have a severed head, fresh, only a couple of days old. It was found yesterday by two women walking their dogs. The dogs started playing with something. And to their horror, they look down and they see it`s a plastic grocery bag and that out of that tumbles a fleshly severed head. Then a hand was discovered.

And then just minutes before airing tonight, I was walking up here. Another hand discovered, all believed to belong to the same man. A white male in his 40s to 60s with salt-and-pepper hair.

Undoubtedly, authorities putting together a description and -- more detailed, as well as a possible sketch as we speak. Again, breaking news.

We`re going to go to the phone lines. Jackie, New York, your question or thought, Jackie?

CALLER: Hi, Jane. Thank you for taking my call.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Sure.

CALLER: I love watching you every night.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Thanks.

CALLER: My question is, is the cutting off of the hands I can understand, you know, for the lack of the fingerprints. But even if you`re trying to dispose of something quickly, why would they put the severed hands around the other body parts when they`re going to be able to get the fingerprints off the hands?

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Very good point, Jon Lieberman?

LIEBERMAN: Oftentimes -- first of all, they weren`t all that close. Fifty yards apart is not extremely close. But also, we don`t know. Maybe the killer was rushed. Maybe the killer got interrupted when he or she was disposing of these parts and got sloppy.

I`ve seen that happen in a lot of cases. They get interrupted. Somebody`s coming or whatever.

And the other thing we don`t know, Jane, is we don`t know the cause of death. We don`t know the manner of death. And frankly we don`t even know where the murder scene, the primary scene is. We just know where some of the remains were left.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Yes, and that`s why I think, Steve Moore, it`s so essential for authorities to get a sketch out there, because somebody is missing a loved one. And if they see that sketch, they`re going to be able to say -- you can talk about dental records. You don`t have anything to match the dental records to. Because usually when they use dental records to identify a victim, they`re looking for someone specifically who`s gone missing.

In this case, somebody goes -- these body parts, there`s no correlation at this point between a missing individual who they`re seeking and these body parts. It`s just these body parts popping up. It`s something actually out of a movie, and unfortunately, it`s actually happening right near the Hollywood sign, Steve.

MOORE: Yes, it is. And I think you`re going to get a missing person report here fairly quickly, and it may even be beaten by the fingerprint identification. Somebody who is involved in, maybe , some other type of crime may have fingerprints on file.

I think you`re going to find an identification on this person within about 24 hours. And then from then on, it`s just neighborhoods. It`s background investigation to find out what they were involved in and where they were. They could be an innocent victim. They could be somebody who is being threatened and extorted. You just don`t know.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Yes, it could be something out of the mob.

All right. Straight ahead. Teens attack.

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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: The video can be found on YouTube and it getting a lot of play.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Boom. Boom.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: A lot of you guys don`t know the story.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: This 17-year-old (INAUDIBLE) high school student hardly stood a chance Sunday as he tried to hold his own in a Bridgeport alley.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It should be to all of us a wake-up call.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: He`s (INAUDIBLE) Chinese, fresh off the boat.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Boom.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We have got six people in custody. We have two more people who we`ve identified.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: When I asked him why he did it he said he didn`t know why he did it.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We believe that motive was actually retaliation from a previous assault.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: It was not right for them to do it. It was very wrong, I agree. But they have their reasons.

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JANE VELEZ-MITCHELL, HLN HOST: Good evening everyone. Jane Velez- Mitchell, back with you live from New York City.

A brutal back alley beating caught on video. This story out of Chicago; it goes viral. Cops catch the kids allegedly behind the attack. Our culture of violence captured on tape, documented for all to see on video. But what set off this vicious beating? We don`t know yet. Why do police insist that it was not a hate crime when the attackers were shouting racial slurs?

This all happened, again in Chicago; you need to see this beating and witness the raw violence for yourself if you are a parent, if you`re a child, if you`re student. I`m going to play a little bit. Be warned it`s raw, it`s powerful, it`s disturbing. But that said, it needs to be seen.

We need to see what is really going on out there to understand the deeper why. Why is this sort of thing happening more and more? What is the secret motive behind this attack? Watch this from YouTube.

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VELEZ-MITCHELL: It`s horrible. This is depressing. It`s upsetting. This stuff has got to stop.

What you may have noticed is that the victim spoke broken English, he spoke with an accent. What you did not see because it was too disturbing at one point the ring leader shouted at the victim, "I am speaking Chinese to you, "n" word."

Listen to what Chicago police said about all this, this afternoon.

All right. Well we`re going to play that for you in a little bit. This video just -- it blows my mind. The police are going out of their way to insist this is not a hate crime. Not a hate crime according to the cops. It`s not racially motivated.

But my question is how do you define hate? Is hating immigrants not hate? These kids were targeting this young man quite possibly because he was an immigrant. Maybe we need a new definition of what constitutes a hate crime.

Give me a call, 1-877-JVM-SAYS, 1-877-586-7297.

We`re going to go straight out to Jennifer Smetters, she is an attorney on the ground in Chicago. Jennifer, what have you learned about this case? Why are cops not treating this as a hate crime?

JENNIFER SMETTERS, ATTORNEY: Well, what is interesting about this case is local reports are stating that this victim, in this particular beating may have been linked to another beating in which 20 or more students actually ganged up on a group of other students back in October just a couple of months ago. So, the question is here, is do we have retaliation? Do we have vigilantism? Or is it a hate crime?

The police really aren`t giving too many details, but reporters on the ground are reporting that there may be something linked to vendetta from this previous beating. All around horrific, terribly tragic and it has to come to an end.

You know, the father of the 17-year-old, the only one being charged as an adult, mind you, because the others are 15 and 16, including the girl who helped in the set-up allegedly, he works for the sheriff`s office reportedly for more than three years --

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VELEZ-MITCHELL: The dad, the dad of the 17-year-old?

SMETTERS: He`s the one who turned -- yes, and he turned in his son. And I saw him today leaving court in tears. And, you know, he can`t bail out his son. His son is sitting in jail right now. His 17-year-old child and the reports say when he asked his child, "Why did you do this?" The child supposedly said, "I don`t know." What a sad state we are in.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Yes, well, of course, the child could say that.

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VELEZ-MITCHELL: The child must know, there`s a motive here; I don`t care if you are a teenager. You still have motive.

SMETTERS: Absolutely.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Now, one girl put out a video confession saying that she knows the accused attackers and she explained how this feud began and some claim that this is the girl who actually videotaped the beating. So watch this from YouTube.

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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: They were attacked first. There were 20 of these FOBs, which means "fresh off the boats", which are Asians. They ganged up on two of the members that were in the video, and this was basically payback.

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VELEZ-MITCHELL: All right, well according to this girl, this guy got beaten up because he was an immigrant, reportedly from China, an FOB, fresh off the boat. Those are her words, not mine. Apparently, the "n" word was used 25 times, again, against a Chinese young man. So, there`s confusion here.

But I say hate is hate. And it comes in many sizes and shapes and colors and there may be multi-determined but there`s no narrow box you can check off to define hate. And so, Michelle Golland, psychologist, I do believe that there`s an element of hatred against an immigrant in the equation here?

MICHELLE GOLLAND, PSYCHOLOGIST: Clearly. I agree. I mean, I think we are talking about semantics here. And clearly the "n" word was used really just adds a derogatory term to this individual. But you are absolutely right, Jane. I mean if this was about an immigrant; that is what a hate crime is. Someone who is different, someone who you have othered (ph) and that you are simply doing this. Or even if it`s an element of it, if it`s an element of retaliation and the retaliation is also because it was two groups against each other.

But, Jane, this is so disturbing, because it points to something I know you talked about before which is how do we battle. How do we combat this issue in our school system -- because that is really where it has to be done? And this is, this kind of behavior, and understanding what --

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VELEZ-MITCHELL: Where are the adults? Where are the adults?

GOLLAND: Absolutely. Absolutely.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: There`s one guy that works for the sheriff`s department who turned in his son, the oldest kid purportedly, allegedly involved in this. But where are --

GOLLAND: I commend -- I commend him, Jane. That and -- we -- sorry.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Yes, I commend him too. Jon Leiberman, you`ve been dying to get in here.

JON LEIBERMAN, INVESTIGATIVE REPORTER: Well, yes. Well, a couple of things. I commend him as well, except for the fact that he did come out publicly and claimed said that his son was just -- just got involved with the wrong crowd and saying that he is being blamed for all of this when he really wasn`t the master mind. So that is one thing.

The other thing though that is sickening here is this is clearly according to police, a premeditated attack. These guys allegedly asked this 15-year-old girl to lure this victim to this particular area for the sole purpose of doing what you are watching here on the video.

And what is more, it`s so nauseating because it`s almost like they are trying to make a made-for-TV video here. She is going in. She`s getting a tight shot of the face. She`s coming out. It`s almost like they are stage directing. It`s sickening.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: It`s high-tech sadism, is what it is.

LEIBERMAN: Yes, exactly.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: And there`s a school of thought that the technology that is available for teenagers today, it`s making them more sadistic because with the texting and everything, they don`t have to confront each other face to face as often. And it`s very easy to be mean when you`re texting. It`s harder to be mean when you say something face to face to somebody.

So you can insult somebody via a text and it`s easier, there`s more cowardice involved than insulting somebody face to face. And the idea that this was videotaped is very, very disturbing because there`s a level of entertainment involved. So, you have, not just a beating but beating as entertainment.

So we ask tonight, what is the secret behind the hate? Again, you need to watch more of this video to look at the absolute viciousness of this attack

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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Am I speaking Chinese to you (EXPLETIVE DELETED)?

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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Are you going to run? (EXPLETIVE DELETED)

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VELEZ-MITCHELL: And there`s also the pack mentality. People are capable of doing far more vicious things in a group where they co-sign each other`s bad behavior than they are one on one. So kids can join good gangs called sports teams or after school program or they can be involved in bad gangs.

This looks like gang behavior to me. They may not be officially gang but they`re sure acting like one.

All right. Up next, football star Deion Sanders and his wife split up, but it is getting nasty. And there are Twitter wars involved. Is he the latest sports legend to be caught cheating? That is what his estranged wife claims.

We`re going to take your calls, 1-877-JVM-SAYS.

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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I don`t know about you, but I find it hard a lot of times to get to the gym and once I`m there, I`m thinking, wait, I drove a mile to get to the gym and now I`m walking a mile on the treadmill. Why didn`t I just walk?

The fact that just getting out of the house and walking, setting a destination, putting one foot after the other is great exercise and you can take along one of these reusable container so you can get liquids and not hurt the environment, think about it.

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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Guess who is on a divorce collision course? And it`s getting ugly. And gee, Deion Sanders and his wife looked so happy on their reality show, "Prime Time Love" on Oxygen.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Deion, could you please get up and help me.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: That isn`t allowed baby. I`m sorry.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: You see I`m cleaning up. You can`t just get up and get some tea.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We have to play our roles, man.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: There are roles, I do this for you all the time, Deion.

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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: No, not now. I did not say "I do" to five people in the bed.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: You know what. It`s on them.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Daddy you can`t cook.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Mommy can`t either.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes, she can.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I think you are scared.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Scared? How can you --

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I smell fear.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You smell Dolce.

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VELEZ-MITCHELL: Another one bites the dust. That is right, another reality TV couple. Football legend Deion Sanders secretly files for divorce without telling his wife and get this, his wife Pilar says she found out about it when she happened to click on TMZ. Wow. That is a bad way to enjoy a cup of coffee in the morning.

But now Deion says his wife is trying extort him; this is getting ugly. Pilar Sanders wants the judge to throw out their pre-nup. They have been married 12 years, by the way, because she says her husband is a serial cheater. No? A professional athlete cheating on his wife? Say it isn`t so.

Well, Pilar Sanders is making some shocking allegations against her estranged husband and I got to tell you, these court documents are thick. I`ve got them right here. Pilar says her husband committed numerous acts of adultery, that he is a bully, and that he has a narcissistic personality disorder. And that instead of helping to raise their three children, he is off working on his new reality TV show called "Sports Dads" on BET.

Watch "Sports Dads".

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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Hello girl. There you go. You think at times your dad is too tough on you?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Sometimes he is, yes

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Can you go to your dad and say, I don`t want to do this?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Yes.

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VELEZ-MITCHELL: Don`t you think it`s a little ironic that his wife is saying that he is an absentee dad but he is working on a show called "Sports Dads"? You can`t make this stuff up. Unbelievable.

Those aren`t the only accusations flying around, FYI. Deion`s his daughter from his first marriage says Pilar, her mother in law is a gold digging H -- you can fill in the blank.

Who`s going to win this battle? Give me a holler, 1-877-JVM-SAYS. Straight out to my dear friend Tonya Young Williams; you are estranged wife of former NBA player Jason Williams. You know the deal, you married an athlete, does it surprise you, A, how nasty this has become and that the essential charges revolve around alleged infidelity?

TONYA YOUNG WILLIAMS: Hello Jane. Unfortunately, I`m not surprised at all. But it`s nevertheless disturbing every time. You have to understand, when we go down the aisle, just like every other excited bride, we expect both parties to adhere to the vows and we expect it not always to be easy but we don`t expect the lifestyle that obviously Pilar had to live through.

The infidelity, it`s crushing to everyone whether you are the wife of a celebrity or just an average woman; it is a hurting situation.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Let`s face it, a lot of pro athletes have found themselves in very messy, cheating scandals.

So come here a second, here is my opinion, I`m going to tell you something. We know the list, right? Let`s see: Brett Favre has sexting scandals; Tiger Woods, enough said, we all know that story, right, there`s tiger; Ditto for L.A. Laker Kobe Bryant who is now going through a messy divorce, accused of cheating on his wife, the very woman who stood by him when he was caught earlier in a huge sex-related scandal.

The list goes on and on and on. These guys are on the road a lot. That is where the temptation lies. They are de facto sex symbols by the virtue of their athleticism, their superstardom.

Steve Santagati, author of the manual, "Bad Boys Finish First", women are going to approach them. So my question is, what I don`t understand is, if you want to fool around, why get married. Why not keep your freedom? Why not remain single?

STEVE SANTAGATI, AUTHOR, "BAD BOYS FINISH FIRST": I think you`re preaching to the choir on that one, Jane. I think what goes through a guy`s mind is he wants to have a family. He wants to have children. So I think he thinks he`s supposed to get married to do that even though he might not be the best husband material.

And the women getting into it, they know. I mean the cheating -- the athletes cheating, is nothing new. It`s just that it`s documented more because of technology. So I think she got into it for the money, the lifestyle, the fame, the opportunities and he got into it for being the dad.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: I just find that very cynical, although I agree with you.

SANTAGATI: How about reality?

WILLIAMS: Absolutely.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: I find it cynical and I just wish that people were just up front about what they want. And then if they are honest, there`s no alleged cheating because they are honest. They are honest.

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VELEZ-MITCHELL: Do you think sports wives are naive to get upset when they believe they found their husbands cheating on them?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Simple fact. I mean they are sports guys. They go from town to town. They know this. Everybody goes after the jocks in college. You know this too.

You marry because he was a jock.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Just because he`s an athlete you shouldn`t assume that he would be cheating.

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VELEZ-MITCHELL: Two different sides of the story and two different genders. Apparently this couple, the Sanders, never met a reality show they didn`t like.

Here is Pilar stirring up trouble on VH1`s "Football Wives".

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Baby, I don`t need to run. What I`m doing is I`m saving you money.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Bye. Bye.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I am saving you.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Right. Yes, right. Praise the lord.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: You need to really learn how to honey.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Praise the lord.

Make sure you answer the phone that way. Hater. You leaving. We going to have a beer.

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VELEZ-MITCHELL: There`s a lot of haters in this story. Deion`s daughter, Diandra went on a Twitter rampage defending her dad and slamming her stepmom. Here`s what she tweeted, "Lies, lies, all Pilar do is lie. Only thing you ever cared about doing with my dad is reality shows. Stop playing the victim."

Arnie Spanier, host CBS radio, you cover sports; I always say when it comes to divorces, water finds its own level. They probably both have issues.

ARNIE SPANIER, HOST, CBS RADIO: Jane, let me tell you something, when I was in Los Angeles, I used to cover the Lakers. We`d go out in a row. I have to tell you something. When I`d go to the hotel, I didn`t know if it was the hotel or if I was walking into a brothel. These women are predators. They go ahead, they fish these guys out. They want to know where they stay. They find out their schedule and they say, hey, I`m going to rip my clothes, lay on my back, get pregnant and I hit the lottery.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Oh, please. Please.

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SPANIER: That`s what they are doing, Jane.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Listen. Tonya Young Williams, we women need to stick together and respond to these guys who are trying to blame the women for the alleged cheating of the men. And as I ask you about that, remember the symbol of cheating of the Dallas Cowboys infamous White House, you can read all about it on YahooSports.com.

A Dallas Cowboys player reportedly rented a house right up the street from the Cowboys training facility. So that all his football buddies could bring girls over and wild parties? The worst kept secret ever, Tonya Young Williams?

WILLIAMS: Yes, Jane. The rhetoric, the shallow rhetoric being spewed forth by these men who, one, are not wise, and never met a wife should be stopped. I take great offense personally because they assume that all of us who marry athletes were going after them; the whole gold digger issue. It`s ridiculous and it shows a level of stupidity.

I like most of my women friends who are wives of athletes are educated and who have had careers prior to meeting our spouses. It`s not until you go down and you say, I do, that their lives begin to overshadow your lives. These gentlemen are just throwing --

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VELEZ-MITCHELL: All right. We`ve got two guys here. I`m going to let Steve respond.

SANTAGATI: Yes. Yes. Let me tell you something. If you were so well educated before you met this guy then why didn`t you A, trust your intelligence and B, trust your instincts?

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Hey, she`s a lawyer. Tonya is a lawyer. She doesn`t need a guy to support her.

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WILLIAMS: I`m sorry. Once again, you are showing that you`re not well-versed --

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SANTAGATI: Hold on Jane. Jane --

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Ok. Let Steve speak.

WILLIAMS: Find out who Pilar is.

SANTAGATI: The world is filled with educated derelicts. A title means nothing for me. It doesn`t impress anybody. The point of the matter is -- that guy that was speaking --

VELEZ-MITCHELL: More on the other side.

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VELEZ-MITCHELL: And for a little levity, let`s listen to Deion Sanders on YouTube singing.

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VELEZ-MITCHELL: All right. Tonya, you have the last word. Is it all about the money?

WILLIAMS: No, it`s not. And I find it disturbing, Jane, that at the end of the day we are villainizing this woman for getting married and saying I do instead of looking at the fact and saying, you know what; this guy cheated. He`s hurting a wife and hurting a family. We haven`t discussed that all. It`s all Pilar`s point, if you want to listen to these gentlemen. And it`s just a shame.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Well, I would like to point out that there are happily married couples involving sports figures and women that they`ve met. And as one of the people that I spoke to on the street today said, we can`t use somebody`s profession as a blanket explanation for their behavior. They are more than that.

Thanks for joining us.

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