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Interview with the Wilson Phillips; Interview with Bubba Watson

Aired April 14, 2012 - 21:00   ET


PIERS MORGAN, HOST: And still holding on after more than 20 years.

Carnie Wilson, Wendy Wilson and Chynna Phillips on life, love, and getting the band back together.


CHYNNA PHILLIPS, WILSON PHILLIPS: We never even dreamed that it can be this good the second time around.


MORGAN: And the man of the moment. My primetime exclusive with Masters champion Bubba Watson.


MORGAN: What goes through a golfer's mind when you're -- when you're six inches away? Other than don't get out (ph)?

BUBBA WATSON, GOLF CHAMPION: Right. Exactly. I was going to be famous for one -- either missing or making it.


MORGAN: And "Only in America," Morgan versus Watson. Game on.


WATSON: Finally.




MORGAN: Good evening.

This is a very good time to be Bubba Watson. The Masters champion is living the American Dream ever since sinking a six-inch putt to clinch an emotional win last Sunday. And tonight, he tells me what it was really like.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) MORGAN: Can you quite believe you're in the green jacket, on CNN, you know, talking to the world about being Masters champion?

WATSON: Talking to my favorite person.

MORGAN: Obviously, yes.

WATSON: Yes, obviously.


MORGAN: Yes, but can you believe it?

WATSON: No. It's a dream. It's a dream -- like I said before, it's a dream that I've never completed. It's a dream that I've never finished. To be here is I guess now it's a dream come true. It's like heaven on earth. I mean, it's just a wild ride. And hopefully, this ride keeps going because it's fun right now.


MORGAN: Also tonight, my primetime exclusive with Wilson Phillips, the '90s favorite girl group is back and stealing the show on the big screen.


MORGAN: That was "Bridesmaids'" huge hit, with the surprise performance of "Hold On," Wilson Phillips at the end of the film. There was 620 percent increase in sales.

And 20 years later their debut, the ladies of Wilson Phillips are reunited with their new album, "Dedicated."

Joining me now for primetime exclusive is Carnie Wilson, Wendy Wilson and Chynna Phillips.

Welcome, ladies.



MORGAN: It is 19 years since I last interviewed you for a British newspaper, you don't look a day older. I however do.


MORGAN: Are you all still friends? Is this all for show? Do you go and beat each other up the moment these interviews are over?

CARNEY WILSON, WILSON PHILLIPS: We're friends forever. Nothing could ever come between our friendship.


PHILLIPS: Even if we wanted it to.

MORGAN: Has it been a rocky path?

PHILLIPS: What? The friendship?


PHILLIPS: Well, there have been times where, you know, the three of us have been -- you know, well, obviously, we disbanded for a while and, obviously, there were some times where we weren't speaking. And, so, yes, there have been some rough patches. And, you know, the three of us learned a lot of lessons along the way.

MORGAN: What are the lessons?

PHILLIPS: Oh, gosh. Communication. Communication. Communication.

C. WILSON: And acceptance, that we all three are different people. We have different personalities. And, you know --

MORGAN: Because you're all quite feisty, aren't you?

I mean you're all --



C. WILSON: We can be.



W. WILSON: And respect for each other --


W. WILSON: -- for our differences.

C. WILSON: We fight when we're tired. We fight when we're stressed.


C. WILSON: It's like if you're at home, you know, your husband -- when do you fight? When you're tired and you're stressed.


MORGAN: And performing and having hit records and touring and all that kind of thing, and all the press and the demands and the pressure, it is actually mentally and physically pretty exhausting, isn't it?


MORGAN: And I can imagine that you reach a point when you just -- just don't want to be in the same room as each other --


PHILLIPS: You just want to stick needles in your eyes.


PHILLIPS: Yes. It's like you are at --

MORGAN: Or each other.

PHILLIPS: -- the end of your rope.


PHILLIPS: You're so done. You're done. You're baked. You just can't even imagine doing one more show, one more interview one more day --



MORGAN: Because I -- I remember what --

PHILLIPS: You cannot hold on for one more day. You just can't.


C. WILSON: You cannot.

MORGAN: I was going to say that when I -- when I saw you in the early '90s, and you were at the end of a very long press day. And I could see it in your eyes. You were just done with it.

You were like -- if we have to do one more lousy interview --

PHILLIPS: But I think --

MORGAN: -- you know?

C. WILSON: Right.

MORGAN: And it was like, but I got it. I -- having spoken to many artists, it's so relentless when you have a big hit --


MORGAN: -- and you go off --


MORGAN: -- and you celebrate it. Everyone thinks it's so glamorous --

C. WILSON: Not so. PHILLIPS: And then to add on top of that that your management is actually the -- I mean that your record company is actually managing you. That's a real conflict of interest.


PHILLIPS: That definitely drove us into the ground --


PHILLIPS: -- because nobody was looking out for us.

C. WILSON: But this time, you know, we're in our early '40s. We are -- we have nine children between us. And it's like, I think now, we come from a gratitude space. And we feel, we're lucky to be here doing this.

So why fight about little things? Just celebrate what we're so lucky to be doing still?

MORGAN: When "Bridesmaids" really popped and became this huge hit --


MORGAN: I mean, it was fantastic for you guys, right? This is like the sort of thing you dream of, isn't it?



UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: -- out of the sky.

MORGAN: And there are hundreds of millions of people around the world watching you perform.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Yes. It was really exciting.


W. WILSON: It was a huge blessing for us. We had no idea about the story line or anything. And we just took a chance and did a cameo.


W. WILSON: And wow, what a great result we got.


MORGAN: Amazing result.


MORGAN: I mean, has it -- has it given you a completely new lease of life as a career?

C. WILSON: I feel like it has --


C. WILSON: -- in a way.

PHILLIPS: I mean in -- it's opened a ton of doors again for us. It kind of put us back on the map as, you know --


PHILLIPS: -- you might say.

But we definitely feel like we still have our road cut out for us ahead of us, because we want to continue singing together and making more records --


PHILLIPS: -- and writing songs.

C. WILSON: And touring.

W. WILSON: Right.

PHILLIPS: And just because you were in a hit movie isn't necessarily going to guarantee that success, you know what I'm saying?

MORGAN: I mean, I think the point is the kind of role model element of that film. Did you have any -- any slight, when you watched it back going whoa? For your kids, maybe?

PHILLIPS: Yes. Yes, definitely, I did not want my kids seeing the movie. That's for sure. That was not going to happen.

C. WILSON: Well, judging by the -- they came to the theater and by the -- with the first scene, when she's like on top of him, I said, OK, out you go. That was it. And then they didn't see the rest --


C. WILSON: -- until the very end, when we walked out on the stage. It's not for children, I don't think.

W. WILSON: No. My kids didn't see it yet. And they won't.

MORGAN: Mine were -- I think two of my sons saw it. And I found it very disturbing that this was going to be their introduction to the female form.


C. WILSON: I just think it's that like edgy kind of "Saturday Night Live," like just edgy, anything goes, women should do what they want and just have that edge, I don't know, you know?

MORGAN: What -- the second time around, when you have all this success again now, people will say to me it's a lot sweeter, because when you stop it and it all goes away, and you watch other people enjoying all the highs and the good stuff, you kind of miss it, even though it's been painful a lot of the time and horrible and you fall out and everything, actually, a part of you really misses it.

Is it nice to be able to recapture it?

PHILLIPS: Absolutely. Yes. Recapturing it has been a lot of fun.

And we never even dreamed that it could be this good the second time around. I mean, Wendy used to say to me, I never in a million years thought we were going to sing together again. And --


W. WILSON: I thought it was over.

MORGAN: Really?

W. WILSON: We're back together. I'm surprised.

MORGAN: And that first time you all got together and began to sing, how did that feel?

C. WILSON: Oh, so when would that be? Like when we --

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: When that first -- those first couple of shows.




C. WILSON: Oh. Well, we would look at each other on -- we actually couldn't look at each other on stage, because we would start tearing up --

W. WILSON: Tearing up.


MORGAN: Really?






MORGAN: It was that emotional?


PHILLIPS: It's very mushy, but true.

W. WILSON FEMALE: But the funny thing is that we sounded exactly the same. And it felt like the same dynamic --


W. WILSON: -- ten years later.

C. WILSON: And we could like sing these songs in our sleep.


C. WILSON: You know what I mean? It's like just forever embedded.


C. WILSON: You know, and --

MORGAN: I want to come back and I want to talk about this -- this album, because this is like a tribute, really, to your famous parents.

Now, everybody knows the background to this. This hasn't exactly been an easy path for any of you.

So I was struck by this -- we're going to have a short break and then come back and explore this album, "Dedicated" -- because you actually dedicated this album to: "our mamas and our papas, who are with us and not with us. We want you all to know how much these songs mean to us."

And you're recreating the magic of your parents and their era and stuff. But, as I say, it's been a tough journey. So, let's -- let's come back after the break and talk about that, because it seems like a very redemptive exercise to me.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Sounds good. Fabulous.

MORGAN: It does.




PHILLIPS: Obviously, it's disappointing, but, you know, it is -- it is what it is and there's nothing we can do to changer it.

C. WILSON: We're letting a lot of people down.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: We will just reschedule for later in the year.

PHILLIPS: Wendy, she's your sister. Of course you're not going to be upset. There's three of us in Wilson Phillips. So, if Carnie can't do New Orleans, there's really nothing I can do.


MORGAN: I'm back with the women of Wilson Phillips.

And how appropriate, "Still Holding On" is your new reality show on the TV Guide Network, because you are still holding on, in many ways -- although very glamorously, I must say.


MORGAN: And I have to say, Carnie, you're wasting away.


MORGAN: What -- what --

PHILLIPS: She's the incredible, shrinking woman.

MORGAN: What is happening here?

C. WILSON: Coming off. I have made the --

MORGAN: You're disappearing before my very eyes.

C. WILSON: Thank you.


MORGAN: You've actually lost weight between segments.

C. WILSON: I know. She's keeps saying that I think you've lost weight from the beginning of the day to the end of the day here.


C. WILSON: It's so funny.

MORGAN: Tell me about it, because you -- you famously talked about this very openly over the years. You -- you've been up and down like a yoyo.


MORGAN: You look great.

C. WILSON: Thank you.

MORGAN: So tell me how you've got to this happy place.

C. WILSON: Well, for about two years, I really sort of let go of my focus on my health, really, just plain and simple. And I let a lot of old habits come back into the -- to the picture. And it was -- I wasn't feeling good and I actually really was getting scared about what it said on the scale and how I physically felt.

So I needed to reach out for help and I did. And I needed some more intervention. Never ashamed to talk about it, admit that I need help.

And I had a lap band put on over my -- my gastric bypass. And it's helping me feel full, you know?

But these two can like tell you how -- how I've made these changes. I mean, my -- my choices, my habits are getting so much better. I'm eating no sugar and no white flour. I'm planning my meals.

I'm going for the long haul. I'm working on my inside, as well as the outside. I don't know if I did that last time.

It's been 13 years. I've had children. I've had a lot of personal and spiritual growth that I think is going to help me to maintain this forever. That's the goal.

MORGAN: You said this great quote -- I mean great in terms of it's very powerful. "I can't smoke a joint. I can't have a glass of wine. So I want 10 joints, 10 glasses of wine. That's my obsessive, compulsive and addictive behavior. I've really struggled since I've become sober."

And that seemed to me such an honest thing to say.

C. WILSON: I would say that, you know, for me, personally, with this -- my genetics and my experience and the way that I can be obsessive with things, I just for -- for a few years, got into a really bad rut. And I decided that it's either, you know, if I want to have children, have a family and -- and live a long life, I've got to make some real, real serious changes.

And I'm really glad that I decided to make my health first. That's what it comes down to, is health. And mental health, because, you know, I -- I don't feel good when I'm stuffing it all down with something. And I feel like we all try to have something.

And so that's a challenge now -- what is that something? It has to come from inside of me.


MORGAN: Are you -- are you two proud of her --

PHILLIPS: Oh, we are proud --

MORGAN: -- for the way she's been battling this?

PHILLIPS: I was just going to say --



PHILLIPS: -- there's an emotional aspect to it, too.


PHILLIPS: Because we eat for a reason, you know what I mean?

C. WILSON: Right.

PHILLIPS: People do those types of things and those types of behaviors for a reason. It's not just because oh, you know, I want to stuff myself.

C. WILSON: Right.

PHILLIPS: There's an underlying subconscious reason for that behavior.

So I'm real proud of Carnie for --


MORGAN: Well, good for you.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Uncovering and discovering.




MORGAN: Let's turn to parents, because you've got nine kids between you now.


MORGAN: And, famously, you come from very famous parents. We know all that. And it's never been easy for you. I mean, your kids will also be the product of famous mothers.

How are you going to deal with that scenario, that issue? How are you going to avoid the traps that your parents fell into?

PHILLIPS: We just have to push them into the press, you know?


PHILLIPS: We just have to make sure --


C. WILSON: That sounds horrific.



W. WILSON: I -- honestly, I think that we need to keep them grounded, keep them down to earth and, you know, not let them have an inflated sense of self, you know, just because of their -- their family history, you know? And just embrace their talents. And if it's -- and if that is going into the music industry? Great, I will support that, you know?

MORGAN: And how -- how is your relationship with your father now?

W. WILSON: It's a little strained at the moment. But, no, I mean there's not --


MORGAN: Do you guys -- do you have one?

W. WILSON: There's peace.


W. WILSON: There's peace there. But I mean --

MORGAN: But is there actually what you would call a relationship?

W. WILSON: Yes, somewhat of a relationship. And I wish it was more of a relationship.

MORGAN: How would you -- how would you describe it?

W. WILSON: Hmmm.


C. WILSON: No, God. Sensitive.


C. WILSON: There's a connection always. He's -- I mean, compare it to years ago, we hardly ever saw him. And his life has changed so much. And when we do see him, like I try to make him dinner at least a few times a year, come to his house. He's always traveling.

That man has been on the road for 10 years straight and he hardly ever takes a break. And I say, just slow down a little bit. You know, I tried to say, slow down.

And the times that we do really connect is during the holidays or when we do see him and we listen to music together, usually it's our music. We're playing for him. He's playing us his music. And we sit together.

And -- and he says, "I love you so much. You know how beautiful you are?"

And that's all a girl really wants to hear is her father --

MORGAN: Do you -- do you feel like --

C. WILSON: -- saying that to them.

MORGAN: But do you feel like he's your dad --

C. WILSON: Of course.

MORGAN: -- or is he like this sort of disjointed friend that you've got?

W. WILSON: I wouldn't say that he's like a father figure so much. But I mean I -- I love him as a person. And he is our dad. Of course he's our dad. He's our blood.

C. WILSON: I think that, you know, when I see the pride in his eyes and I see how proud he is and that he has been able to express that to us, that that's -- that's good enough. He's never been the hands-on type father. He knows that and we know that.

And that's part of the growth and the acceptance of who we are as people. You know, he has given such a gift to the world and a gift to me and a gift to Wendy. And that's a mature thing. That's a -- to me, that's a healthy way of looking at it, because people aren't going to change --

MORGAN: Let me throw in a little clip here, because it's -- it's pertinent, I think. Let's watch this.


MORGAN: And that's pretty --

W. WILSON: Why did you play that?

MORGAN: Well, because it's --


MORGAN: -- it's kind of perfect timing, wasn't it?

W. WILSON: Whoa.

MORGAN: For -- I mean it's -- it's making me feel quite emotional, because I've just had a little baby girl. And, you know, when you read those lyrics, "how can we be like enemies when we're only flesh and blood, what does it take to make your heart bleed, daddy? Aren't we enough?"

It's pretty heartbreaking stuff.

W. WILSON: Yes. A girl wants her father's attention and approval, you know? That's the -

C. WILSON: We wrote that song when he was involved with a doctor that really controlled his life. And had him under the reins and we didn't get to spend any time with him at all. And we missed him so much.

And this was our way of reaching out to him. And the funniest thing ever, the classic, was his response to that song. We said, how do you like that song, daddy? He goes, well, you either really love me or I'm just a piece of meat.


C. WILSON. That was his reaction. It was so classic. Brian, he's so funny.

MORGAN: Is he a good grandfather in any way? Is he a better grandfather than father?

C. WILSON: I just think that we need to spend more time with him. I want him to spend more time with his grandchildren. He's got five kids at home, numerous dogs, a life on the road. We just have to spend more time together.

When we are together, you see that love in his eyes, you know? They sit on his lap for a minute. He kisses them, you know? That's what we have. That's all we got right now. And I want it to be more.

MORGAN: So better than it was, but room for improvement, work in progress.

C. WILSON: Like any relationship, probably, if you really think about it.

MORGAN: It's true. It's true.

Chynna, you're obviously part of the Baldwin dynasty now. What is it like being with all those Baldwins?

PHILLIPS: They are hot. They're funny. They're smart. They are great dads. And they, you know, they are great people. I love them.

MORGAN: Are they funny to be around?

PHILLIPS: Hysterical.

MORGAN: Stephen's very annoying, but he is quite funny.

PHILLIPS: Try going to dinner with Alec and Billy and Stephen and Daniel, and you will be doubled over in pain.

MORGAN: I can believe that because they are all funny.

Alec, he is -- is he the leader of the pack, or not really when they get together?

PHILLIPS: Well, you know, he's the oldest, so he thinks he knows what's right and what's the best thing to do. And sometimes he's right and sometimes he's wrong. But he's a fantastic guy and he's super generous, really loving, and, you know, a great brother. He's a good guy.



MORGAN: This is a really heart warming testimony to the Baldwin clan.


MORGAN: No downsides?

PHILLIPS: Several. No, no, no. Come on, they have a temper, you know? They -- let's just say that sometimes their egos can get a tad bit inflated.

MORGAN: No. Stephen?

PHILLIPS: A little bit. A little bit. But you know what, that's human. We are all a little bit inflated from time to time. So I'm not pointing fingers.

MORGAN: Given that you guys have collectively had to spend all your lives surrounded by fame, what is your view? Now you've got nine kids. It sort of changes your perspective on life.

What have you learned about fame? Because it can be a very corrupting thing.

PHILLIPS: Well, you know, fame, it's really basically like the enemy, because the minute you start to believe you're famous and you start to think you're famous is when you start having some real trouble and big problems emotionally, because suddenly you can start to feel entitled. You can start to feel like this is what life is all about. This is, you know, my purpose in life.

Then you're only as good as your last project. It just -- it's evil and it just feeds on itself. So for me, I think that fame is just a bad word, you know? I would rather be called an artist, you know, than famous.

MORGAN: Maybe you have to learn that, right? I mean, fame can be very intoxicating when it first happens.

W. WILSON: I think it's an illusion. I think it's not real. And I think that people want to believe that it's real because it makes them feel better and it makes them want to connect to something.

MORGAN: Let's end on that. It's a terrific album. I love the spirit behind it. I love the fact you can go back and celebrate what were some of the great songs in the history of America, and you can do it now without, perhaps, the pain you would have to have done it a few years ago.

So thank you, ladies.

W. WILSON: Thank you.

C. WILSON: Thank you so much.

MORGAN: Your reality show, "Still Holding On," airs Sundays on the TV Guide Channel.

The new album, "Dedicated," is out now. Here it is.

Chynna Phillips, Carnie Wilson and Wendy Wilson -- thank you all very much.


MORGAN: Bubba Watson upgrading his wardrobe with a brand new Masters green jacket on Sunday. We've seen his emotional win. You've heard he's never had a formal lesson in his life. And right now, you're going to hear from himself.

I'm proud to say I'm joined by the Masters champion himself, Bubba Watson.

WATSON: Thanks for having me. Thanks.

MORGAN: What a moment for you. The green jacket. Can I touch it?

WATSON: Yes, go ahead.

HOLMES: How does it feel?

WATSON: It feels nice.

MORGAN: How's it really feel? To be Bubba Watson right now?

WATSON: It's overwhelming. People -- people like yourself want to talk to me. For me to come to New York and do these interviews and meet you for the first time, obviously, it's a special time. It's fun.

MORGAN: Why have you given me the big exclusive interview? Because somebody has told me rather unnerving reason why.

WATSON: Because when you were on this other show, "America's Got Talent," you were a (EXPLETIVE DELETED).


WATSON: So I wanted to come here and make fun of you just like you made fun of anybody else.


MORGAN: I heard that was the reason.


MORGAN: But it's genuinely why, isn't it?

WATSON: Yes, for sure.


WATSON: Yes, exactly.

MORGAN: I don't care how we got you here, I'll take it.

I love your story, Bubba. I was saying this on the show last night. There's something very American about it, there's something very authentic about you and what you've achieved this year.

And I ended the show by saying you had three great dreams: to get the car of "Dukes of Hazzard," the General Lee, to adopt a child, and to win the Masters. And you've done all three in the last three months. It's been a quite extraordinary time for you, isn't it?

WATSON: Yes, it has. It's been crazy. I took a tournament off this year that I normally don't take off. It got me to go to the auction where the General Lee was. And somehow I could afford -- the bidding stop, so I could afford, so I --

MORGAN: You paid $110,000.

WATSON: A hundred and ten thousand for it, and my limit was going to be $150,000. And so, it stopped, and so I bought it. Have that baby at my house.

MORGAN: Why did you want that car so much?

WATSON: The TV show. The TV show was --

MORGAN: "The Dukes of Hazzard."

WATSON: "The Dukes of Hazzard" was amazing. I loved it. Who doesn't want a car that jumps? And now, I have -- own the car, the first car, the original that actually jumped in the opening credits. It's crazy to say I own that.

And then going through the adoption process, trying to keep it behind closed doors, trying to keep while we're trying to play golf and try to perform well on the golf course. Our baby fell into our laps.

We came back home with a baby right after Bay Hill, had a week off, had to fly to the Masters. And then a week later, I'm here talking to you, Masters champ. All three in three or four months, it's been --

MORGAN: Can you quite believe it? Can you quite believe you're in the green jacket, on CNN, you know, talking to the world about being Masters champion?

WATSON: Talking to my favorite person.

MORGAN: Well, obviously, yes.

WATSON: Yes, obviously.


MORGAN: But can you believe it?

WATSON: No. It's a -- it's a dream -- it's a dream, like I said before, it's a dream that I've never completed. It's a dream that I've never finished. To be here is -- I guess now it's a dream come true, it's like heaven on Earth.

I mean, it's just a wild ride, and hopefully this ride keeps going, because it's fun right now.

MORGAN: What I loved about the way you did it was there was like a "Tin Cup" moment. You know, you were in the trees, the second hole of the playoff. And it was like, what's he going to do? Is he going to play safe? You know, which way is Bubba going to go?

And every natural golf fan was just saying, "Go for it. Go on, Bubba. Go for it."

And you played this -- you're obviously a lefty -- you played this hook out. It was probably -- it must have been the best shot of your life, given the pressure. The stakes were so high. The difficulty of the shot and how it played out -- was that the moment for you?

WATSON: No, I think the six-inch putt to win was the big moment.


WATSON: But, you know, the shot was amazing. I mean, it was just -- it set up perfect for me. I love to hook the ball. I hooked it about 40 yards, I've been telling everybody.

So it just worked out perfectly. I didn't even see it. The crowd came rushing in on me.

I ran under the ropes. I went out onto the fairway. And then I asked my caddy, "Where is it?" And he said, "About 15 feet from the hole." And I said, "Wow. I can't believe it, that I actually pulled it off."

MORGAN: It could have gone horribly wrong.

WATSON: Right.

MORGAN: It was a massive risk, that shot. Many golfers would have just laid up. They'd have played safe, rather than take a risk that could have blown them the Masters, especially as you've never come close to winning it before.

What is it inside you that made you look down and say, I'm going for this?

WATSON: I trust everything in -- every ounce of my body, I trust it all. I trust in my abilities. I trust that I can do it. And that was the whole day.

I just kept trusting -- just trusting I was doing the right thing. If it was meant to be, it was going to happen. Somehow it happened. And I never had doubt that that shot -- I could pull that shot off.

MORGAN: The moment when you had the six-inch putt to win the Masters, what goes through the golfer's mind when you're six inches away?

WATSON: Well -- MORGAN: Other than don't conk it out?

WATSON: Right, exactly. I was going to be famous for one, either missing it or making it. You know, I actually did a motion to tell the crowd to quiet down. I wanted to go through my routine. I went behind the ball, looked at it, took my time, took some deep breaths, just making sure that I did everything I was supposed to do.

And it went in. And then --

MORGAN: Were you thinking of anybody in particular? I always wonder, when you reach that kind of epicenter of a sporting career, what is going to be the greatest moment of your life, who do you think of? What goes through your mind? Or is it all just focused on the shot?

WATSON: I definitely wasn't thinking about this show.


WATSON: If that's what you mean.

MORGAN: You weren't thinking of me when you won the Masters?


You know, I -- like I've always said, it's just -- this is -- this is to honor my parents, to honor my late dad, honor my grandparents, honor all the people that have gotten to this point in my life -- my friends, some of the golfers that stayed around, some of the family members that were there, all my fans on Twitter, Facebook, all my fans across the world.

You know, it was all for them. I mean, they helped me. They helped me get to where I am. They helped me drive to where I am today.

And without their support, their love, their encouragement, who knows where I'd be, especially my beautiful wife. Very special.

MORGAN: It really was, and you were very emotional then. I can see you're emotional now. You're obviously an emotional guy,.

But it just must have meant so much. I was thinking about your story when you took that shot, about your father, about your mother, about your wife, about your little baby, all of it.

It's hard to imagine a more emotional moment for anyone than the one that you went through there, for all sorts of reasons. I mean, your wife came through a health scare. You know, your father, who was this great mentor to you, lost his life a couple of years ago.

And there you are with your mother, standing there and hugging your mother on the 18th at Augusta. It just must have been an extraordinary moment.

WATSON: It was. You know, growing up, the way we grew up, money's not a big important thing to us. We don't care about money. We didn't care about being famous, showing off or anything like that.

And so that moment just overwhelms you, you know, because it is. It's just for my mom, for my dad, my late dad, my grandparents, my new baby boy, my wife. Just everybody that's influenced me, it just all comes together at once.

MORGAN: Let's take a short break, Bubba. I want to come back and talk about the early days, when you used to practice in this little dirt track, practice all these fancy hooks that would win you the Masters, and also about your friendship with Tiger Woods, who is a great hero of yours, I believe. So let's discuss that after the break.


MORGAN: Bubba Watson, not a man who's afraid to show his emotions and who can blame him. The 2012 Masters champion is back with me now.

Talking about your father before we went to the break there, and he, you know -- he served in Vietnam. What did he give you, your father, do you think, in terms of values? How much of his son are you, do you think?

WATSON: The first thing that springs to mind is he told me I got two options: I can be a follower or a leader. And he said you don't want to follow. You want to be a leader. And so that always sticks to me.

So I play the game of golf my way. I do things my way. I don't let anybody influence me, except my wife sometimes. She influences me.

But you know, I do it my way. I don't let people tell me what to do or anything. I'm going to do it my way, do everything in my life my way. If it makes me happy and it's something I want to do, that's what I'm going to do.

MORGAN: They say you've got ADD. Is that true?



WATSON: I wasn't paying attention, sorry.


MORGAN: Attention deficit disorder. I don't know, you're winding me up.


MORGAN: But they say you've got this. What I liked was the intensity on your face in those playoff holes was very marked. When anyone didn't know you, I was like, wow, this guy's focused and intense. And then I read about the ADD, I'm like, how can this be the same guy? How did you become so composed in such a pressurized moment, if the rest of the time you're all over the place? WATSON: You know, I recognize that. I've had a couple chances to win where I struggled on Sunday. And so for me, I'm not mad. I'm not angry of anything. I just put my head down in between holes, walking down the fairway, not trying to focus on anybody yelling at me, supporting me, cheering for me.

I try to just stay in the moment and talk to myself as I'm walking down the fairway, in my head, trying to get ready for the next shot. Get ready for what I've got facing me. And so, yes, so it looks like a stern face. It looks like I'm really focused.

And that's what I have to do. I've found that out, that that's what I have to do. I have to work at that really hard to stay committed to each shot, stay focused on the golf course until the job's done.

MORGAN: How important was Tiger Woods in all this? Because I read that you and he have a good friendship, but that he actually had a serious word with you about this. He said, "Look, you can win big titles." Tell me about that.

WATSON: You know, a few years ago when we were playing a lot of practice rounds together, before his injuries and stuff. We played practice rounds and he -- I learned a lot from -- I learn by watching. I don't learn by listening or doing. I just learn by watching.

And watching him move shots, being the shot maker that he is, hitting great curves, hitting three woods on certain holes, chipping and putting, knowing that chipping and putting's a big deal in the game of golf. And talking to him, he just -- he just showed me a lot of things. I learned a lot of things.

And I'm -- I've grown in the game of golf from that. And then he said I got to take it more serious, you know. You got to -- you got to take the game of golf more serious if you're going to perform, if you're going to get a W.

And then -- so I took that to heart. I hired me a trainer. I have a trainer that goes with me everywhere I go, try to work out more, making sure to stay healthy, to do all the things, to make the right moves, for being a better golfer.

And it made sense. It -- I understood what he was talking about after I thought about it for a little while. And I obviously have improved the last few years. I've won a few times.

MORGAN: And you do out-drive him, of course.

WATSON: Well, for sure -- he's older, though.


MORGAN: But you're obviously now experiencing celebrity, probably for the first time in your career, probably.

When you see what happened to Tiger -- obviously great to see him back now, but he went through the up and the down of celebrity. What lessons can you draw from that?

WATSON: Well, I think you got to learn from every situation. You know, the thing about -- the thing about Tiger, he's in the media more than anybody else. The guy who's number 200 in the world doesn't really see the media that much.

So he might have problems going off the course. We just don't know. We all have problems in our lives. We all have situations in our lives.

Obviously, you don't want to use that as an example, a guy that I look up to, a guy that has changed the game of golf forever, a guy who still can grow the game of golf. You just kind of learn from that, and hopefully you don't fall in the same situations.

You can get out of those situations. And you don't put yourself in situations that can harm you, harm you and your family. And then, obviously, the injuries that he's had over the years is just something you can't help. You can't predict those.

MORGAN: Is he still the best you've seen, Tiger?


I never got to see Jack Nicklaus. I think Rory McIlroy is talent. I think he's got the head-on -- the head that you need to play good golf, to compete in every major. Watching his golf swing, he could be the next.

But you know, I mean, Tiger's set the bar so high, I mean, Phil Mickelson's won 40 times and Tiger's almost doubled that. So Tiger's set the bar so high that it's almost uncatchable, I guess.

MORGAN: Let's take another break. I want to come back and talk to you about women in golf, the woman who's most important to you, your wife, but also what you think of Augusta not having female members -- because I have pretty strong views about this, Bubba.




WATSON: I wanted to be a dancer, and the singing was the easy part.


WATSON: That was -- that was pretty good. I feel hot right now.



MORGAN: Bubba Watson, what were you thinking?

WATSON: "America's Got Talent." That's --


MORGAN: That is not going through the second round. That was the Golf Boys, featuring fellow golfers Ben Crane, Rickie Fowler and Hunter Mahan. I think I got that right. What were you doing there?

WATSON: Well --

MORGAN: What was the thought process?

WATSON: Golf is boring.



MORGAN: That is true.

WATSON: You know, we felt like trying to help charities a different way. And so we got on iTunes. We got the song on iTunes, we got a ringtone, trying to raise charity just different ways, and bring a light to it, and show that -- our character off the course, because on the course it gets boring, it gets long.


MORGAN: Bubba, I think you're going to singlehandedly revolutionize golf, because you're just not boring.

WATSON: Well --

MORGAN: You know, a lot of them are, I'm afraid. I have interviewed a lot of golfers. Some of them are very dull.


WATSON: I got to keep winning, though. If I don't win --


MORGAN: -- side to you, which is very entertaining.

Let's talk women and golf, because there's a big row (ph) this week about the Augusta not allowing female members. What is your view? You're the champion.

WATSON: This day and age, I think that -- I don't see any reason why it could hurt. But, again, it's a club that has rules that can do that. There's places that -- there's rules made up. There's laws made up that we can't do certain things. You know, it took a lot of security codes to get in here, to get to this room.


WATSON: So what are y'all protecting? You know what I'm saying? You know, I mean, that's the thing. It's something for your own organization to figure out, you know. Y'all obviously didn't want Bubba to come in here right away.


WATSON: I went through a lot of security --


WATSON: There's a lot of big men out there watching me.

MORGAN: Tell me about your wife, because --

WATSON: Wait, what was your words on this? Let me hear your great --

MORGAN: Oh, I think it's completely ridiculous. And I think that the idea that, in the modern age, such a prestigious organization, that the whole world is focused on with this amazing tournament, doesn't allow women members, it's just like something out of the Dark Ages. I mean, just get over themselves.

How could it hurt to have a female member? What are they going to do?

WATSON: I know who's not going to be a member.

MORGAN: Who, me?



MORGAN: Well, I am banning myself. If you're watching, Augusta, I ban myself. You can't ban me, I ban myself. I'll come back when you allow women.

Let's move onto your wife.

WATSON: No, they don't want -- they're not going to have you back.

MORGAN: They don't care either way. They've never even heard of me --

WATSON: -- probably don't watch your show.

MORGAN: Watch it.

WATSON: Well --

MORGAN: I started out liking you.

WATSON: Truth hurts sometimes.

MORGAN: That could easily turn. Just be careful, Bubba.

Your wife is 6'4", and she's a basketball champion, played in the Olympics, played all over the place, actually. Tell me about how you met.

WATSON: We were at the University of Georgia. She was hurt. She's a year older, so she was hurt, coming back in rehab in that University of Georgia. I love to play basketball. I was playing on the courts, goofing around with the girls -- girls' team.

I played with a lot of them when they were off-season. And so we were running up and down the court, and she was there rehabbing her knee. And so I started talking to her; she blew me off. She could care less who I was, because I looked ridiculous out there trying to play basketball.

But I overheard her talking a couple days later at the same place, talking to the women's assistant coach about golf. So I said this is my in. I can talk to her, you know.

And so I went over and I said, hey, you want to play golf one day? And she agreed somehow. And we went there and I told her who I was, told her what I did. I said, I just turned pro, but I'm still finishing school.

And so I hit a couple good shots. And so I guess I impressed her and bugged her for the next couple weeks. She still said I don't want to hang out with you. And then I guess I just kept bugging her enough where she said, yes, she'd go on a date with me. And so we hung out.

And she said she had to go overseas, said she wanted to be serious. And I said, going overseas and spending time away from you is no big deal. We can, you know, long distance relationship can work.

We can talk throughout the -- you know, on the phone, do all that stuff, and then meet when you get back over here. So we did that for a while, and somehow I got -- it got more serious and we're married with a kid now.

MORGAN: Is she the great love of your life?

WATSON: Oh, for sure. She's -- whoo. She does amazing things to make me the person I am, the golfer that I am. She makes it all -- makes it all gel. You know, my craziness, my ADD, as you call it, is everywhere.

And she completes me. She makes it all work and she makes it all gel together. She's the one that's serious about everything, and I'm the jokester.

And she's my best friend. I mean, I talk to her about anything. That's not one thing I would leave and hide from her, unless I'm trying to surprise her about something. But --

MORGAN: What did she say to you when you became Masters champion?

WATSON: She said -- she didn't say much. You know, we talked for five minutes on course there. And she just said, "I love you and I can't wait to see you."

She said that it's going to be amazing for Caleb to grow up and see these videos of -- I was talking about his -- talking about my son.

MORGAN: I mean, it will be. Can you imagine when your little boy's a little older?

WATSON: When he's old enough to focus?

MORGAN: Yes, and --

WATSON: Focus on TV and see --

MORGAN: Yes, when you sit him down and this is -- this is dad winning the Masters.

WATSON: He might ask who you are.


WATSON: Wait, I did that already.

MORGAN: Yes, but what a special moment that will be for you.

WATSON: No, it will be. You know, it's -- it'll be some good father- son stuff. It'll be something that I could only dream about.

And actually Easter Sunday, the Masters, he -- we've had him a week, two weeks at that time. And then he'll see that -- all these pictures and videos of him, and see that Masters champ. Hopefully, he knows what the Masters is when he gets old enough, and realizes that his dad really cared for him and his mom really cared for him, and just prove our love to him.

MORGAN: Good for you, Bubba. Well, I've got to say, look, from my point of view, I like golf. I play 18. I'm a bit scratchy, but I've had my moments.

And I think you are a breath of fresh air in a sport that can often be quite dull. And I think this interview's proven that you're a one- off.

I think the whole of America, the whole world, actually, was roaring you on in the Masters. It was fantastic to see you win.

Having said that, I want to challenge you, because we've got a little putting green down there, and this is going to be an "Only in America" special. It's Britain v. America. It's the Ryder Cup right here, after the break.



WATSON: Bubba Watson here today on Bubba's Bridge. We're going to hit a shot, under the porch, over the roof, into the hot tub. Let's see if I can do it.



MORGAN: A classic Bubba Watson trick shot. That's how he fancies himself. Why shouldn't he? He's the Masters champion.

However, this is not Augusta. This is CNN. And it's an "Only in America" special, my version of the Ryder Cup.

Bubba? You may be Masters champion, mate, but you haven't come up against the Morganator. So we get one shot each.

WATSON: Did you make that yourself?

MORGAN: I did. The Morganator. If I say it often enough, it'll catch on. In fact, if you say it, it'll definitely catch on.

So it's the Morganator v. the Masters champion. We have a little putting ground. I don't know, how far is that, about five feet?

WATSON: About nine feet.

MORGAN: Nine feet? Oh, could be out of your range, couldn't it?

WATSON: Yes, it could be.

MORGAN: I'm going first. Winner takes all. May the best man win. And I will. And by the way, you're going right-handed to give me a chance.

WATSON: That's fine. OK.

MORGAN: What do you think of my stance?

WATSON: What are you doing right now?

MORGAN: Don't you worry about me, mate.

This is going in.

OK. That didn't go very well. Come on, then. Show me how it's done, Master.

WATSON: There's no comments for that one.



WATSON: So, right-handed.

MORGAN: About 300 million people watching this worldwide.


WATSON: At least mine stayed on the grass.

MORGAN: Tie-breaker. Let's have these balls back. Come on.

Let's have these back. First one to sink one wins, and we'll be here all night if we have to.

Oh, yes. Oh.

WATSON: Oh. Let's try this one more time. This is it.



MORGAN: Bubba Watson, the Masters champion. That's all for us tonight.