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Woman, 25, Found Dead in Mysterious Circumstances; Assault Reported in Area of Girl`s Disappearance

Aired April 30, 2012 - 19:00   ET


JANE VELEZ-MITCHELL, HOST: Jane Velez-Mitchell coming to you live from New York City tonight.

Breaking news out of Arizona. Police reporting a man broke into the bedroom of three young girls and allegedly assaulted them. We have to ask, is this the very same person behind the disappearance of little Isabel Celis in the same neighborhood? She disappeared in the dead of night, as well. We`re going to have breaking news, a full report in just moments.

But first, in California, a successful young woman is found dead mysteriously in the basement of her parents` exclusive Malibu home. Her BMW has vanished. Now cops say Katy Wilkins was baking brownies. She was doing the laundry. She was planning a party one minute. The next minute she was dead. What could have happened? I`m going to speak with the victim`s father in an exclusive, next.


VELEZ-MITCHELL (voice-over): Tonight, mystery and manhunt in glamorous Malibu. A 25-year-old woman found dead in her parents` garage, her BMW missing. How did she die? Was she with somebody? And did that person flee the scene? We`ll investigate, and I`ll talk to the victim`s father live.

Then, cops say missing 6-year-old Isabel Celis could be in Mexico. Are cops any closer to solving this baffling mystery?

Plus, new developments in the Secret Service prostitution scandal. The guy who allegedly argued with a prostitute over payment has now been kicked out. But why is his wife standing by her man? I`ll talk to a former Secret Service agent live tonight.

And we`re taking your calls.

Plus, superstar Mel Gibson makes a dramatic admission about his temper. After another rage rant is released, you`ll hear what he has to say.

And a desperate, direct plea to our show from women in Africa. It`s a story you`ve got to see.

STEVE WATKINS, BROTHER OF KATIE: I came in, and the first thing I saw was her in the garage. She had passed away.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: This is 25-year-old Katie Wilkins and this is Katie`s BMW which her family says is missing. Emergency officials at the scene reported suspicious circumstances surrounding Katie`s death. Who was she with?

S. WATKINS: We`re not angry. We`re not -- we`re not upset with anyone she would have been with. We just want them to feel comfortable to come forward and help us kind of bring some closure to Katie, because she was loved by a lot of people.


VELEZ-MITCHELL: Tonight, dark secrets in Malibu as the mysterious death of a beautiful young woman at her parents` exclusive home becomes even more perplexing.

Just a little while ago, autopsy results were announced for 25-year- old Katie Wilkins. She`d been house-sitting for her parents, who were out of town. No one had heard from her since Friday, so her brother checked on her this past Saturday morning. He says he found her dead in the garage. Tonight we are asking what happened to Katie?


S. WATKINS: It looks like somebody was there with her and may be scared or doesn`t know how to come forward.

We just want to know who she shared company with before her passing.


VELEZ-MITCHELL: Police say the circumstances around Katie`s death are nothing short of bizarre, when she was found dead, cops say they found evidence she had just finished baking brownies. She had a load of laundry going and had just fed the dog. She was planning to host a party on Sunday.

Most suspicious of all, her 1998 BMW is missing. And it looks like this.

Katie was a smart, educated young woman who worked as a graphic designer. Reliable, dependable, responsible. This was not someone who operated in any kind of high-risk lifestyle. It`s probably safe to assume that whoever has her car knows quite a bit about what happened to Katie.

We are honored to have Katie`s father, Robert, on the phone with us tonight.

Robert, first of all, we are so sorry for your loss. Our hearts go out to you. I know that you are grieving and in deep pain tonight, and we are so sorry. We want to do everything we can to help find out what happened to your daughter, to find justice for your daughter.

Sir, the baffling part of this terrible tragedy is that an autopsy has completed the results announced, and police have reportedly said they do not believe foul play was involved in your daughter`s death. How is that possible when her car is missing and the family dog was found wandering outside your house. A car doesn`t just drive itself away. A dog doesn`t leave the house by himself.

ROBERT WILKINS, FATHER OF KATIE (VIA PHONE): No, no, that`s true. And this is still very much of a mystery to us. And the police are still actively investigating.

As your show mentioned, Diane and I were out of town, and our son, Steve, was actually the person that found Katie, and then she was deceased.

And there`s still -- it`s very much a mystery. Her car was gone. We don`t know who she was with at the time. And she did seem to be in the middle of a bunch of -- I don`t want to say mundane activities, but she was planning on having some people over for a weekend get-together. And she was baking brownies, and she was doing some laundry. And this stuff was just -- you know, it looked like that what happened was in the middle of this. She was actually, you know, preparing to make some coffee. She had the coffee beans in the coffee pot but hadn`t yet added water to it.

So she did seem to be doing some routine things which probably would have indicated to us, you know, maybe that she was here by herself. So the whole thing is very bizarre.

And the police, as well as us, are just trying to figure out, you know, obviously, or not obviously, but it appears that somebody was here because, you know, they took off with the car.

So we are still, you know, obviously we`re numb, and we`re in shock. It`s just been a terrible day. It`s just been the worst day of our lives, but, you know -- and we can`t get Katie back. But we are -- it`s just a mystery. And obviously, we`re very anxious to find out what happened to Katie.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Well, let me ask you a couple of things, sir, and again, our hearts go out to you. I can`t imagine what you`re going through. A beautiful, beautiful daughter.

Did she have a boyfriend? Was she involved in any kind of a relationship? Did she have any kind of a medical condition? Apparently, there were no obvious signs of foul play, which is probably why the autopsy result decided that it`s not foul play, but that it doesn`t -- it doesn`t jibe with the other facts of this case.

R. WATKINS: There didn`t seem to be any obvious signs of foul play. Katie is very well liked. She was a successful graphic designer, as you mentioned, 25 years old. And she does have friends, and she does have a boyfriend who is heartbroken. And, you know, there doesn`t seem to be any -- any sense of involvement here on his -- his part.

And, no, she doesn`t have any medical conditions. That was, you know, one of our thoughts, as well. You know, could there have been some sort of heart attack, or some sort of unexpected medical condition. But Katie was actually in pretty good shape. She was a runner. We had just run a half marathon together, she and I just a few months ago, and she was in pretty good shape, and so that`s just one of the reasons that it`s such a mystery. We don`t know who was up here on either late Friday night or Saturday morning.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Are there any surveillance cameras in the area?

R. WILKINS: You know, not in our area so much. We do know she was at a grocery store on Friday night. And they`re going to check the surveillance cameras to see if she was with anybody at the grocery store. But we don`t have any surveillance cameras, either. It`s a very quiet -- quiet neighborhood. And there are no surveillance cameras, and we don`t have surveillance cameras in the house.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Sir, I honestly don`t know what to say. We have a former FBI agent here. We have a criminal profiler. I would like to ask him a couple of questions. Would you be willing to hang on the line, sir, or would you -- I understand if you don`t want to stay. But I`d love to have you participate in the conversation. But if you don`t want to, I respect that completely.

R. WILKINS: I can hang on for a couple of minutes.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: OK. Now, thank you, sir. Katie Wilkins, your daughter, actually lived in Orange County, which is about an hour away from her parents` house where she was tragically found dead.

I want to show you her car, again. This is what police are looking for, a silver convertible, 1998 BMS-Z3, license plate 4-AMN-558.

Got to go to Steve Moore, former FBI. Listen, if she had loaned the car to somebody, they would have to know by now that something tragic has happened. What are your thoughts, Steve?

STEVE MOORE, FORMER FBI AGENT: It could be several things. For instance, she could have gone somewhere, had a few drinks, didn`t feel like she wanted to drive home and left the car there and a friend took her home and is not putting two and two together that they`re looking for the car. That doesn`t seem really likely.

And again, we don`t know exactly what the cause of death is. There are cameras, though, near the house. To get down to PCH, where she would have gone to the grocery store, she would have had to have passed -- I believe it`s Station 8 up in the hills where they do a lot of firefighting. I`m sure they have cameras.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Here`s the thing. In 2009, Malibu was stunned by the murders of a pregnant wife and her husband. Their two young children were at home. It was a terrible story, an intruder wearing a motorcycle helmet entered the home and stabbed them, and it turned out that it was a 20-year- old security guard who was arrested.

Then you have the case of Mitrice Richardson. She disappeared after eating in an exclusive Malibu restaurant in 2009. Her remains were found a year later. Not clear what led to her death, but Richardson`s parents have always felt that it was a murder and police didn`t take that possibility seriously.

Pat Brown, Malibu prides itself on its low homicide rate. Do you think that they could be ignoring a possibility of homicide because of bad publicity in a star-studded neighborhood?

PAT BROWN, CRIMINAL PROFILER: Yes, I don`t know, Jane, why they`re coming up with no foul play at this point. What`s interesting is this car and where it`s going to turn up.

But clearly, if someone was with her at the time she died a natural death, or a drug overdose or some other weird that happened, that person should have been on the phone to 911, trying to save her life and not just bolting out the door. So that`s kind of strange right there.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Yes, but let me say this. As a recovering addict, alcoholic, you`re not doing the laundry, feeding the dog, making a cup of coffee. Those are sober activities.

BROWN: It sounds...

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Sober activities.

BROWN: Exactly. It sounds very normal what she`s going about.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: It, to me, increases the possibility in my humble opinion of foul play.

BROWN: Agree.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: And Mr. Wilkins, again we are so sorry. We are just absolutely devastated that your beautiful daughter has met this end. And we will stay on top of this story, sir. Please let us know if you learn anything. We will update it immediately.

R. WILKINS: OK. Will do and thank you for your comments. And you`re right, we are just absolutely devastated around here.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Yes, I`m so sorry. Thank you, sir.

R. WILKINS: Thank you.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Well, we`re all over another story tonight, the disappearance of a 6-year-old girl. Where are investigators looking now for Elizabeth [SIC] Celis? And we`re taking your calls on this breaking news on the other side of the break. There has been another crime in the area, an apparent alleged sexual assault on three young girls, same time frame, same neighborhood, same gender, same age range. That in a moment.


SERGIO CRUZ, FATHER: Just please, please to the person or persons who have Isabel, tell us your demands. Tell us what you want.




CRUZ: We love you, and we miss you so much.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Isabel was last seen in this home by her parents.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: They have been interviewed extensively.

CRUZ: We are cooperating to the fullest extent.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We`re labeling it as suspicious circumstances and a possible abduction.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: New details about what may have happened that Saturday morning.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I remember briefly waking up and hearing male voices outside my bedroom window.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: We are here today to plea.

CRUZ: And we will never give up. We will never give up looking for you.


VELEZ-MITCHELL: We have got huge breaking news in the search for little Isabel Celis. We are just learning, minutes ago, about a possible sexual assault, ten miles away from where Isabel disappeared. Tucson`s east side.

Three young girls, ages 6, 8 and 10, told deputies, a man, a strange man they didn`t know entered their bedroom, at 2 a.m. this morning, 2 in the morning, and sexually assaulted them. Is there a connection?


UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We`ve got some of our detectives working with the Pima County sheriff`s deputies that are investigating that particular case.

We want to make sure that if there are any similarities or anything that interests us, in following up this investigation, as well, that we look into that. And it`s something that we feel is important for us to do.


VELEZ-MITCHELL: Well, I can tell you right now, just off the top of my head, yes, there are similarities. It`s happening in the same community, ten miles away from where little Isabel disappeared.

The victims in this other case are girls, as well. It happened in the middle of the night.

Isabel disappeared in the middle of the night. All this occurring on the east side of Tucson. Yes, those are commonalities.

At this time cops are scouring the immediate surrounding neighborhoods in search of evidence, or a suspect, a male in his 20s.

Joining me now, Jessica Chapin, reporter at KGUN. You were at the news conference today where cops made this absolutely startling announcement. What do you know?

JESSICA CHAPIN, KGUN REPORTER: That`s right. We know that police have confirmed, they do have detectives on scene with the sheriff`s department now, and they are working with the sheriff`s department on this case.

Police wouldn`t elaborate on whether or not they think there are connections to the two cases, but that is a possibility that could be considered here. They do have detectives on scene to look at leads like that, look at that aspect of the investigation.

We do know the girls` ages range from 6, 8 and 10. Isabel is 6 years old, as well. So the ages are a similar age range there, and we do know that police are still investigating that case.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Yes. Lisa Bloom.

CHAPIN: Caucasian male in his 20s.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: A Caucasian male in his 20s is the description of the suspect they`re looking for. Lisa Bloom, how do cops talk to these girls who have already been traumatized once?

LISA BLOOM, CNN LEGAL ANALYST: It`s very important for cops to talk to them, and not to take the attitude of, you know, "I can`t talk to them because they`ll be traumatized."

In my experience representing a lot of children who were sexually molested, it`s a very healing process to talk to law enforcement; even to go to court and testify against a child molester or a predator.

So I think it`s very important for these girls to talk to police. It`s important to police to follow up.

I also want to say that, if anybody goes online and looks at sexual predator registries, you`re going to see dots all over your neighborhoods. So my view, this is not necessarily connected, although stranger abductions and stranger molestations are less common than family ones, nevertheless.



VELEZ-MITCHELL: Saturday`s White House Correspondents` Dinner was a hoot. Here`s Jimmy Kimmel with your "Viral Video of the Day."


JIMMY KIMMEL, LATE-NIGHT TALK SHOW HOST: Mr. President, I know you won`t be able to laugh at any of my jokes about the Secret Service, so cover your ears, if that`s physically possible.




UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: My bedroom is directly across from hers. It`s going to be right over this wall right here. This is Isabel`s room.

My dog, she woke me up. She`s very skeptical of people. And when she heard voices, she started barking and that woke me up. And that`s when I noticed the male voices, multiple male voices. And I noticed that the Celis`s dogs were going crazy.

They bark a lot, but this was a different type of barking. This was a very, very frantic barking.


VELEZ-MITCHELL: That was Isabel`s neighbor saying she heard something very suspicious outside the little girl`s bedroom, 6:30 in the morning when she disappeared. She told that to Nancy Grace. The parents of little Isabel said that a screen was knocked out.

Well, now we`re hearing less than 10 miles away, this morning, 2 a.m. this morning, three little girls say a man in his 20s broke into their bedroom and sexual assaulted all three girls. Ages 6, 8 and 10. Little Isabel is 6.

Steve Moore, former FBI agent, I`m sorry, this sounds like the same person to me.

MOORE: Yes, let`s be real. It is extremely rare that somebody will actually go into a house to molest a child. It is not a high probability of success. It`s a high probability of being caught.

The people who do this tend to get a thrill out of actually doing it in the house where people might be -- might catch them. So the chances of these two things happening in the same town within a week, are really, really remote.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Well, Pat Brown, criminal profiler, this means that there is a sexual predator who attacks young girls on the loose in Tucson, Arizona on the east side. This is incredibly alarming. What can police do about this to protect the other children in the neighborhood?

BROWN: Well, first of all, Jane, it`s incredibly alarming, even if you only hear of one incident. Any time you have one incident of a serial predator, there`s always going to be one in the future. You can`t jump to the conclusion that these two things are related. Because, for one thing, one child was taken out of the house and the three children were attacked inside the house. And it is kind of unusual for a guy to take a child out of the house, if that`s what happened.

And after having her with him, go and do that right away when police everybody else is out there, looking all over the place. I think we have to wait to see what the evidence is at both of the homes and see if there`s any connections.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Isabel`s family went in front of the media last week for the first time and made an emotional plea for their daughter`s safe return. Listen to them.


CRUZ: We are cooperating to the fullest extent with the investigation. We are increasing the reward, just please, please, to the person or persons who have Isabel, tell us your demands. Tell us what you want. We will do anything for her.


VELEZ-MITCHELL: Lisa Bloom, the parents haven`t been eliminated as suspects, but they`re cooperating with police. The funny thing is that cadaver dogs hit around her home.

BLOOM: Generally I`m in favor of what the dogs do, but it`s not 100 percent accurate. I think there is still reason to have hope that this little girl is still alive. But I think that all parents in that area have big, barking dogs in the room with their little girls tonight or have the girls in their bedroom with them, because this is a very dangerous situation.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Great advice.



UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: We now know who refused to pay in that prostitution scandal in Colombia.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: -- at the highest levels of the Secret Service.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Secret Service members might have used prostitutes in a foreign country a year before the scandal in Colombia.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I`m not going to be satisfied until we get some independent look at this.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: The national security as well as the security of the President is threatened by this sort of thing.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The biggest scandal in the history of the Secret Service.


JANE VELEZ-MITCHELL, HLN HOST: The Secret Service sex scandal blows wide open as the drama moves from Colombia to El Salvador and now to suburban Maryland. That`s where an agent who has been forced to resign -- his house put up for sale. This man is the first agent named, he was one of 19 -- I know, I stumble on this because it`s just so unbelievable -- the 19 Secret Service operatives who allegedly hired 21 prostitutes in Colombia.

His name is Arthur Huntington and this is his home in suburban, Maryland -- rocking chairs on the porch, flag blowing in the wind; a seemingly perfect all-American setting. Huntington, 41 years old and he is currently inactive; meaning the Secret Service has given him the boot. Huntington allegedly did not pay this woman, Dania Suarez of Colombia. She reportedly got only $28 of the $800 she was owed.

When Huntington wouldn`t pay allegedly she caused a scene. Police were called and this has become an international embarrassment to the United States. Now Huntington is caught between two women, his wife in Maryland and the prostitute who turned his life upside down. And apparently his wife says she`s standing by her man -- that`s what I hear anyway.

Where will it end? When the allegations stop and the investigations begin in earnest, how many women have been named as partners to the Secret Service`s secret debauchery?

We`re taking your calls, 1-877-JVM-SAYS.

Straight out to my very special guest, Dan Bongino, a former Secret Service member himself, whose own brother is still an agent and was reportedly part of the group sent to Colombia. Dan thank you for being here --


VELEZ-MITCHELL: -- I understand your brother was not in any way, shape, or form was involved with a prostitute. For that I would say way to go, bro. The scandal has nothing to do with him except it`s known that he was on the same floor, the same hotel, where the fight allegedly occurred. What can you tell us about what happened on that floor, this incident that sparked this international scandal?

BONGINO: Well the only information I have is what I have been reading in the press. I haven`t really been discussing it for obvious reason with my brother. He`s been cleared and I don`t want to get too involved in his specific case.

But from what I have read, it seems that there are a number of people reporting that that was in fact the case. That the woman was upset and was knocking on a number of doors and managed to contact a law enforcement officer from Colombia in the process. And at that point, I think when the embassy found out, the situation got a lot worse, I think as we have seen from you know, just from --


VELEZ-MITCHELL: Well, let me ask you this. According to published reports, there`s a "wheels up, rings off" culture at the Secret Service, that that is the unofficial motto. So you apparently know some of the families involved and some of the wives. My biggest question -- I have thought about this since the start of the scandal, how are these wives of these Secret Service agents reacting to this? Especially now that word is it could have happened -- it allegedly happened in El Salvador as well. What`s the reaction of the wives?

BONGINO: I don`t know where they got that "wheels up, rings off". That`s absurd. I have never really heard -- I spent 12 years with the Secret Service, I don`t recall one person ever telling me that it was "wheels up, rings off". There`s a lot of wheels up -- you know wheels up from Air Force One, that`s what they`re talking about when the President leaves the country.

But rings off was really nonsensical. The culture I remember at the Secret Service was a very regimented, hard-working one. You know this seems to be, that`s all I can speak from in 12 years, a very isolated incident. I heard the stories about El Salvador. I wasn`t on that trip. I don`t know if they`re true or untrue. I wasn`t there. They seem to me at this point to be allegations. How unfortunate.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Look, I understand that you have a tremendous amount of loyalty to the Secret Service, and your brother obviously has good moral character and resisted any peer pressure that may have existed to engage in this debauchery.

But I have to bring in Aram Roston, senior correspondent, "Newsweek" and the "Daily Beast", this idea that this was isolated, and Janet Napolitano actually saying to lawmakers this is isolated. How can they possibly say this? A U.S. government subcontractor told KIRO TV, he accompanied a group of Secret Service agents to a strip club in El Salvador and sexual favors were given in the VIP section and he said -- he told them, hey be careful, they said we do this all the time, not worry about it. I mean can you really argue that this was an isolated incident? Aram.

ARAM ROSTON, SENIOR CORRESPONDENT, "NEWSWEEK": I think most people -- hi, there -- I think most people who are familiar with the Secret Service do believe it`s an isolated incident. Sure. It seems because it was so widespread and so many people were involved, that you know, everybody`s thinking it must be a pattern of practice.

But everybody I have spoken to who`s familiar with the Secret Service, investigators, agents they say they haven`t heard of this sort of thing before.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: With all due respect, I find that very hard to believe, just my understanding of human nature, is that a dozen or more guys can`t get together, spontaneously, Lisa Bloom, author of "Swagger" by the way, which is about male swagger. It`s an excellent book, it`s just out. I don`t think a dozen guys get together like that, boom, and make a spontaneous decision when there are supervisors involved that it`s not some kind of a cultural phenomenon within the entity. It doesn`t -- in my understanding of human experience, it doesn`t happen that way.

LISA BLOOM, ATTORNEY: Right. 19 guys engaging in behavior that is clearly outrageous and going to embarrass them when it`s exposed and a couple of them have the gall to not even pay the prostitute, in a place where prostitution is legal. You know what; the only good part of this story is, because it was legal, this woman could actually enforce her rights when they didn`t pay her. She could stand in the hotel lobby and scream and yell and bring the police in and enforce her rights to be paid.

So I mean I think that`s one good part of the story. But of course this has happened before -- what are we fools? I`ll tell you the solution, Jane. The solution is female Secret Service agents.


BLOOM: We won`t have this problem.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: And you know, I have to say, Aram, I thought you had a very good point in your article that you wrote about this, asking who the heck is investigating the Secret Service, none other than the Secret Service? I mean, this is -- let`s watch this from CBS this morning and then we`ll get your take on this.


SEN. CHUCK GRASSLEY (R), IOWA: Nothing`s changed in Washington if heads don`t roll. Inspectors generals have a great deal of independence and they are the ones that ought to be doing this unbothered by anybody else in the department or the administration.


VELEZ-MITCHELL: I mean, Aram, I think you have a great point. There`s no way that this can be done as an internal investigation and we can expect justice.

ROSTON: That`s what everybody was saying, it`s very difficult to rely on an agency to investigate itself. And that`s why these inspector generals exist. And in this case, until now, the inspector general who had oversight in the Secret Service was supposed to be the watch dog for the Secret Service, didn`t step in. Today by the way, finally, they called up -- they did step in. Just today, this afternoon they announced that they were going to start a comprehensive review, they call it.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Yes. Well, listen, I think that the lawmaker had it right that heads -- high heads, powerful heads -- have to roll for the culture to change. Somebody`s got to pay. Somebody`s got to be held accountable beyond the individuals involved, because this happened on some powerful person`s watch.

And Dan, I know you -- you want to see the best in these agents and I`m not saying that they`re all corrupt. But even the club owner, the strip club owner in El Salvador -- scandal number two -- said it`s not just the Secret Service, that, quote, "high ranking employees in the U.S. embassy in San Salvador, as well as visiting FBI and DEA agents frequented this strip club and this VIP area in this strip club does provide sexual favors.

I mean we can`t just close our eyes and see and hear and speak no evil because we want to think the best. This is rampant, this is endemic. And to me, I got to say the bottom line is that this is part of the reason why Washington is broken. It is a culture that is all about power and privilege.

BONGINO: I agree. That`s why I ran for office and left the Secret Service. So, touche on that. What I say is I don`t want to see the best of them. I did see the best of them, I worked with them for 12 years. I don`t owe anything to the Secret Service. I don`t work for them anymore. They didn`t ask me to do this. As a matter of fact they probably rather didn`t.

I was there 12 years. I traveled the world men and women; a quarter of my shift on the President`s detail, were women. they were the best people I knew. I`m talking about people with fine moral character.

We`re talking about thousands and thousands of trips by the President and other foreign dignitaries to the United States. And all we can find are two, El Salvador and this. These are horrible incidents, no one`s apologizing right. And you are absolutely correct.

But we are indicting an entire agency for what we know to be right now two incidents in two countries. No president was harmed -- it was awful behavior. But put it in context.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: You know what -- let me say this, Dan, and I`ll bring Lisa Bloom back. I`m so happy that there was no danger to the President. But I think that something was damaged, our reputation.


VELEZ-MITCHELL: I think that women in America and in Latin America, are offended. I`m offended as a woman, and as a taxpayer. And I`ll give you the last word, Lisa Bloom.

BLOOM: That`s right Jane, and you know, you mentioned my book "Swagger", I have just written a book about how we`re racing our boys with a sense of entitlement that they can do anything they want with women. That they can do anything they want with their lives. They don`t have to have the substance to back it up. And this is a perfect example of that.

This is horrible, it tarnishes all of us and we can`t just gloss over it.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Yes, and to say, well, mistakes happen. That`s enabling. That`s being an apologist in my opinion.



UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Superstar Mel Gibson on another expletive-filled rant.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Did Mel Gibson want to kill his former girlfriend.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: A screenwriter is making some very strong allegations against him in a very public way.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Mel Gibson`s new meltdown.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Mel Gibson is accused of making anti-Semitic and other hate-filled comments including talk of killing his former girlfriend.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: This isn`t the first time that Mel Gibson has been embroiled in some sort of major controversy, particularly involving anti- Semitism, violence against women.


VELEZ-MITCHELL: Is Hollywood superstar Mel Gibson finally ready to admit he has anger issues? The man with the infamous temper made headlines again just a couple of weeks ago. Some secret audio tapes allegedly caught Mel on an expletive-filled rant chewing out "Basic Instinct" screenwriter Joe Eszterhas over a script. Now Mel admits, it was him on those recordings. Listen to this from "The Tonight Show".


JAY LENO, TALK SHOW HOST: You blew up at your house, yelling and screaming and he taped it.

MEL GIBSON, ACTOR: He taped it. Yes.

LENO: Did you even know he was taping.

GIBSON: Of course not. No.

LENO: And then he released the tape?


LENO: And was it just you just swearing at the guy?

GIBSON: Yes, pretty much.

LENO: Ok so this --

GIBSON: You know -- you know, I`ve got -- maybe you don`t know this about me. I have got a little bit of a temper.

LENO: I heard.


VELEZ-MITCHELL: A little bit of a temper? Listen to these audio recordings from


GIBSON: I go to work. You`re getting paid, I`m not. (EXPLETIVE DELETED). I am earning money for a filthy (EXPLETIVE DELETED) who takes advantage of me. Just like every mother (EXPLETIVE DELETED).


VELEZ-MITCHELL: Oh, boy. E chief news correspondent, Ken Baker, what is the reaction in Hollywood to Mel admitting, yes, that`s me on the tape screaming like a lunatic?

KEN BAKER, E CHIEF NEWS CORRESPONDENT: Well, I know my reaction was here we go again. We have heard it before, I mean there are tapes allegedly of him leaving these really, really horrific messages and conversations with his ex-girlfriend Oksana Grigorieva that came out a couple of years ago. And those were extremely disturbing. Of course, that was a huge drama.

And now this. When he went on "The Tonight Show", he sort of tried to make a joke of it. He was saying how you might know that I have a temper, kind of trying to laugh it off a little bit.

But something that`s very disturbing about this, Jane, is that he never really apologizes. He never really explains his behavior and the whole time that he`s talking to Jay Leno, he`s clutching his chair as if it`s to hold him in place. You can almost sort of see this rage that`s within him. And it`s very troubling and disturbing, and unfortunately, this is a very creative, talented guy who obviously has real, real anger management issues. And it`s unfortunate, yes that, someone was in his home, recording him surreptitiously. Yes that`s unfortunate but he said what he said. He acted like he did and it`s just -- it`s really troubling to a lot of people.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Yes. I mean he`s still trying to justify and rationalize his behavior as opposed to saying, boy I did something terrible, I want to apologize to the world for my behavior.

This A-lister -- maybe we should call him a former A-lister -- as you said, he`s been plagued with scandal for years and I would like to analyze what you said about him clutching his chair. Let`s see if we can see it, I don`t know. But listen to this and watch from "The Tonight Show", his body language.


LENO: How does this all make you feel?

GIBSON: You know, kind of peeved. But that`s ok. I mean, hey, it`s been kind of weird in the last couple of years. It`s like living in a bad B movie, I mean.

LENO: Yes.

GIBSON: It`s like everyone -- from slipping on a banana peel in your driveway, to sort of midnight phone calls "We have the girl. We want $1,000 dollars in unmarked bills" --

How did they get here.


VELEZ-MITCHELL: Ken, you`re right, he`s clutching the couch. It just seems so emotionally juvenile to me, Ken. Ken? You there, Ken?

BAKER: Yes, I`m sorry.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Yes, no problem.


BAKER: Yes. Well, here`s the thing, a lot of people who have met Mel Gibson say he`s a very charming. He can be very personable but he clearly has this other side to his personality and that`s the side that we hear on the tapes and (inaudible) that`s scary.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: You`re right.


VELEZ-MITCHELL: Some more great moments from that White House Correspondents` Dinner -- a little laugh break.


JIMMY KIMMEL, TALK SHOW HOST: I do have a lot of jokes about the Secret Service. You know, I told them for $800 dollars I wouldn`t tell them but they only offered $30. So --




UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Hi Jane. I`m Dr. Sherry Thomas (ph). We`re here in Jinja, Uganda, taking care of these women with fistula problems hoping to change their lives.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: They`re waiting for their turn to be screened so that they can get a chance to have this surgery which hopefully will change their lives forever.


VELEZ-MITCHELL: These folks called out to me and this show in particular asking for help. I knew I had to share their story with you because we can do something.

And it`s so easy right now, sick women from all over Uganda. They go through all sorts of journeys and struggles to see this doctor, Dr. Thomas, we`re going to talk to her in a second who does this operate that can end this terrible thing called fistula. The condition where there`s a whole in the woman`s birth canal that can cause an infant to be still born, chronic medical problems and the side effects for the mother are uncontrolled leaking of bodily fluids, which is a humiliating condition that drives these women. They`re ostracized. They`re thrown out of their homes in shame.

But it can be fixed with a simple surgery that only costs $300 for a woman -- changing their lives, saving their lives. In Uganda, pregnant women don`t get the medical care they need and this condition often goes untreated.

And that`s why Dr. Sherry Thomas, one of my heroes is in Uganda, in Africa. Tonight, we`re honored to have her.

Dr. Thomas, tell us briefly what is this condition and how do you change the lives of these women?

THOMAS: Yes, thank you, Jane. Well, we`re here in Jinja, Uganda where women have traveled many miles to receive this free medical care we`re providing. And what happens is, because there`s virtually no access to medical care here in Uganda and really throughout Africa, when women go in labor, they may spend up to a week laboring. Many times they die and if they do live, they unfortunately will deliver a dead fetus.

This results in significant damage to the birth canal. And this constant leakage of fluids that you describe, because of the odor, the family abandons them and they spend many years seeking the care that we`re providing here.


VELEZ-MITCHELL: And how -- it`s probably a simple surgery, I want to play another clip of volunteer and sponsor Elizabeth telling us how we can help change lives with $300. Check it out.


UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Each surgery is very expensive. It`s about more than $100. So people can contribute to that, maybe financially; would like to call upon more and more doctors to come to Uganda and expose our doctors to the latest technologies out there.


VELEZ-MITCHELL: Ok, so, what are the women like after they get the surgery and they -- all their medical conditions go away? Do they feel like they have just basically been born again, doctor?

THOMAS: Well, Jane, it`s amazing, we just sent 25 women home this morning and they were smiling. They were dry. They were thankful. We have given them hope for a better life and hopefully reunited them with their families.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Well, you are a saint and I just want people to get involved. Even if you could send $10, there`s the Web site right there. It`s Help out.

More on the other side.


VELEZ-MITCHELL: I want to thank you Dr. Thomas for reaching out to us and actually sending us video clips. I happen to know the videographer that you`re working with. And when she sent me these clips, she called me and said "oh, my God, these women suffer so much. Please help."

And it`s so easy for us. You know, for those of you at home, if you`re frustrated and you feel like you don`t make a difference. This is such an easy way. It reminds me of the Smile Train Foundation where, you know, a cleft palate operation changes the life of a child. These operations which only cost $300 -- you can`t get your teeth cleaned in America for $300 -- they radically change the lives of these women.

And this is for them to have to endure a life of torture and neglect and abandonment because their bodies smell, because they have a medical condition that they can`t afford to fix. Please go to this Web site and give anything you can.

"NANCY GRACE" is next.