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Isabel`s Dad Banned from Seeing Sons; Medical Mystery; Week 2 of Jane`s Weight Loss Adventure

Aired May 14, 2012 - 19:00   ET


JANE VELEZ-MITCHELL, HOST: Jane Velez-Mitchell coming to you live from New York City.

Major breaking news in the disappearance of 6-year-old Isabel Celis, as police, just now as we speak, release the 911 tapes from the very moment Isabel was discovered missing. That as the child`s father is banned from seeing his two older sons. Are we on the verge of a big break in this case?


VELEZ-MITCHELL (voice-over): Tonight, stunning developments in the disappearance of little Isabel Celis. We`re now learning the missing 6- year-old`s father is banned from having any contact whatsoever with his two other children. That after detectives called Child Protective Services. Is this mystery coming to a head? We`ll investigate.

Plus this beautiful 24-year-old graduate student suffers a cut and is now fighting for her life, battling a flesh-eating bacteria that`s caused multiple amputations. All this happening here in Atlanta, Georgia, not some remote part of the world. Could it happen to you?

And it`s week two of our new adventure together: healthy eating advocate to the stars, Kathy Preston, is back with "The League" (ph), more fun and easy daily changes that will melt away the pounds, but it`s not a diet. She`s taking your calls.

SERGIO CELIS, FATHER OF ISABEL: We miss you so much, Isabel. Your brothers miss you so much.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: The father of missing 6-year-old Isabel Celis can no longer have contact with his two sons.

BECKY CELIS, MOTHER OF ISABEL: We don`t have anything to hide.

S. CELIS: Nothing.

B. CELIS: Say what you want to say, but in the end, we are confident we have nothing to do with it.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Child Protective Services has removed the two older boys from the Celis home and prohibited their father Sergio from seeing them.

S. CELIS: It is wearing me down.

B. CELIS: ... in our faces.

S. CELIS: And it`s a lot of -- it`s a lot of quiet cuddle time with them and holding them.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Why are officials keeping Isabel`s dad away from his own family?


VELEZ-MITCHELL: Breaking news tonight. Police are releasing the first 911 calls from the disappearance of 6-year-old Isabel Celis. We are processing them right now. We will release them to you the second we have them basically into our system and we can put them back on the air. Who is saying what on those tapes? That is crucial.

Meantime, this family is fractured tonight. The father of the missing 6-year-old Tucson girl is banned from having any contact whatsoever with his two young sons. Not even a phone call. He and Isabel`s mother are no longer living together.

This begs the question: what did cops uncover that would make them separate this father from his own flesh and blood?

Cops say Child Protective Services usually gets involved in any missing child case and, for reasons they will not disclose, they thought it would be best to split up this family. Cops say this does not mean Isabel`s father is a suspect. Just a detective became aware of information regarding the welfare of the two older Celis children, two boys ages 10 and 14.

Here`s a tearful Sergio Celis, the father, just days after Isabel vanished pleading for his daughter`s return.


S. CELIS: We are cooperating to the fullest extent with the investigation. We are increasing the reward. Just please, please, to the person or persons who have Isabel, tell us your demands. Tell us what you want. We will do anything for her.


VELEZ-MITCHELL: Isabel`s dad said he put Isabel to sleep at about 11 p.m. Friday, April 20. The next morning he says he found her missing from her bed after the mother leaves for work as a nurse.

Police say Isabel`s window was open, the screen pushed out. Our show obtained exclusive police scanner traffic from that morning, and learned a so-called sister reported Isabel missing. But Isabel doesn`t have a sister. Listen.


UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: In reference to East 12th, the missing 6-year- old female, light Brown hair, hazel eyes, about 40 pounds. Last seen in a pink tank top and navy blue shorts when she was put to bed. Complainant`s actually going to be the sister and it looks like Mom is en route.


VELEZ-MITCHELL: So, will these 911 tapes that will soon be released - - we`re working on them right now to turn them around -- identify who that mystery female complainant is? And will Isabel`s father`s voice be on those 911 calls?

Well, I want to pause for a second, because we`re being told by our producers that the first person who called may have sounded like a female, but it`s actually the older brother of the missing child, the 14-year-old son. This is from the producers who are listening to this as we speak.

And then, as the mother Becky returns from her nursing duties at the hospital, races back home, she then calls 911. OK. We`re going to have those to you momentarily.

Remember, police dogs hit on something in the house. That`s another factor in this case. Could we be on the verge of a major break? Call me: 1-877-JVM-SAYS, 1-877-586-7297.

Straight out to HLN senior producer Selin Darkalstanian, who is back from Tucson, where she`s been covering this story for us.

Selin, police spoke to reporters at length today. What did they say? What`s the scoop?

SELIN DARKALSTANIAN, HLN PRODUCER: Jane, the most interesting thing they said is that police had something on Sergio, the father, and, you know, felt it best that he not be around his two older children. So they basically said that he voluntarily chose to step away after -- after the CPS, Child Protective Services, found something. They felt they couldn`t disclose to us what that something is, but they did not want the father, Sergio, near the children.

So they confirmed that the children are now living with the mother, Becky.

Now, we have to remember that the day that -- who discovered that Isabel was missing. The father. The mom was at work. Becky was at work. The father is the one that discovered Isabel missing. So he is the one that now is not allowed to see his two older children? Why? We don`t know. The cops could not tell us buy.

But it is very, very interesting that he is the one that is being kept away from the children. The family, as you said, is split apart. The kids are now living with the mother. And as far as we understand from listening from the press conference, these two parents are not separated. They are - - they were living together. They`re not going through a divorce. But because of what Child Protective Services has done, they have now separated.

We also learned at the press conference that they still don`t have an attorney as far as we know. Remember, last week the parents said, "We don`t have an attorney. We don`t believe we need an attorney. We haven`t done anything wrong."

And today somebody in the press conference asked the cops, "Do they have an attorney now?" And they still do not have an attorney, which is very interesting at this point that they still have not retained an attorney.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Yes. Police today admitted during that press conference that just a little while ago, that that the relationship that the cops have with Isabel`s parents is not what it used to be. Listen to this, and we`ll analyze this, as well.

It`s coming.


UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Somewhat more strained now. I mean, we are doing interviews. We`re asking very pointed questions. I`m sure that even they had talked about in their conversations with you their frustration. I understand that, I recognize that. Probably the relationship as time goes on becomes more strained. That`s quite normal and natural.


VELEZ-MITCHELL: All right. Vickie Ziegler, family law attorney. What are your theories? And this is sheer speculation. We want to label it that, because police are not saying what they learned that was so disturbing that it would cause them to ban the father from having contact with the two boys.

VICKIE ZIEGLER, FAMILY LAW ATTORNEY: Right. The obvious one would be, of course, when CPS comes in, they think that the children may be -- they may be harmed in some way. The welfare of the children, the safety of the children -- need to be removed. That`s an obvious one. I don`t know if that`s happening here.

The second one, which probably is more likely: the children are being separated from the father. They were there at the scene. They may have information that affected or would -- perhaps the father would impede the investigation in the sense of them being interviewed and not being coerced by their father. They want to have independent interviews of these children away from the father.

He consented. He could have fought it and said, "No way. I`m not leaving my house. I`m going to be with my children." He didn`t. That`s what I`m leaning towards, that CPS, in conjunction with police, want to make sure that these children are unadulterated, they are interviewed without the parents.

And if they have any information about the missing child, that poor Isabel, that`s who`s going to happen.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Well, you know, we had video of the detectives a few days ago bringing in the father separately, the mother separately, and one of the boys separately.

Now, this weekend we saw Isabel`s mother Becky out alone. This is the first time she`s been alone since this information about her husband. Her husband nowhere to be found.

Here`s what Becky had to say on Mother`s Day.


B. CELIS: I have no idea how to describe it. It`s -- it`s just not a Mother`s Day that I want to celebrate again.


VELEZ-MITCHELL: Now, Pat Brown, contrast that. There`s Becky in the path with her husband, but yesterday, Becky was all alone. Husband nowhere to be found, Pat Brown.

PAT BROWN, CRIMINAL PROFILER: Well, I can tell you this. They`re looking heavily at the husband. That`s obvious.

Secondly, it`s very unusual for a family to split apart, even with the help of the police and social services, at a time when everybody should be together. So if there were no suspicions on that home or very slight suspicions on that home, I don`t think anybody would be tearing the family apart, instead of letting them hold onto each other, support each other, and get through all this and keep the house ready for Isabel to come home.

Something is seriously wrong. The police are looking at the family very heavily.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Now I understand why you`re saying that, but I thought it was sort of strange that, given all this focus on the father, in their news conference -- and I`ll throw this to Jeff Brown, criminal defense attorney -- cops hammered away at the huge number of sex offenders that live in this area.

They said they immediately interviewed 24 high-profile sex offenders in the area, that were in the area around Isabel`s kidnapping. And they interviewed also 540 level two and level three sex offenders; 357 of those offenders present a danger to young children.

Now if they had given up on a stranger abduction and they were focusing on this family, why go to all these lengths, Jeff Brown, to stress all these sex offenders living in the area?

JEFF BROWN, CRIMINAL DEFENSE ATTORNEY: Well, I think they have to. You know, keep in mind, everybody`s focused on this case and what`s going on and what their investigation is. And criminal defense lawyers like myself are always suggesting to them that they need to cover all their bases. They have the man force. They have the ability to do that. They can`t just narrow in on one suspect, because if that turns out to be the wrong one, look at all the time they`ve wasted.

So I applaud them for doing it. They need to cover all the bases, all the potential suspects, every lead, and they can do it all at the same time. They have that manpower. That`s exactly what they should be doing.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: You know, I find it very interesting. It`s not just that he is not allowed to -- let`s say -- hang out with his kids. He`s not even allowed to telephone them. On Mother`s Day, he was not allowed to telephone them.

And again what we`re hearing is this couple that you`re looking at, they are no longer living together, so their child, their youngest, 6-year- old Isabel, has vanished. And now these two are separated with the mom living with the boys, ages I believe -- what, 14 and is it 10? And the dad, we don`t even know where he`s living, but he is isolated from the rest of the family.

Is this part of a strategy to squeeze information out of him in the hopes that, if he tells what he knows, he`ll be able to see his kids again?

More on the other side. We`re still efforting those 911 tapes.


VELEZ-MITCHELL: All right, here`s the breaking news. We`ve just gotten that 911 call turned around for you. Now, just to set it up, the 14-year-old brother, the older brother of Isabel, calls first. But because he`s a minor, legally we cannot play that for you.

However, his mother, Becky, the mother of Isa, rushes back from the hospital where she works as a nurse and picks up the call, is our understanding. And let`s listen to the mother talking to the 911 operator. You`re hearing it as I hear it now. First fresh.


B. CELIS: Hello?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Hello, ma`am, are you the mom?

B. CELIS: Yes.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: OK what is your name?

B. CELIS: My name is Rebecca Celis. C-E-L-I-S.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: OK. Anything else? Do you remember what she was wearing? Her hair?

B. CELIS: Her hair is in braids. It`s in little pony tails. I put little pony tails on her head last night before she went to bed.



All right. That -- again, I`m wondering if that`s -- is there more to it? Or is that it?

That`s it? OK, well, that`s all we have right now, but, wow, you can hear the anguish in the mother`s voice, and she`s pretty hysterical, as you would expect. Vickie Ziegler, family law attorney, what do you make of it?

ZIEGLER: Yes. She sounded harried. She sounded shocked. She said - - she sounded like something is really wrong. She knew the child should have been there. The child should not be out of the home. And apparently, the husband was the last person to actually see this child. They put the children to bed. The child to bed and the other boys. She left for work and was rushed home.

So she seemed shocked, flabbergasted. Clearly not involved, you know, from our perspective when you hear a woman like that, a mother so shocked that her child is missing.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Yes, I get from it that she seems like -- oh, she`s called home. She`s like, "What? My child`s missing?" She comes home, but she`s calling and doing everything she can. That sounds very believable to me.

Now, we also obtained exclusive police scanner audio from the morning that Isabel vanished. This is the 911 operator describing what`s going down at the Celis household. Listen to this.


UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: When the father went to get her up, she was not in the bed. They searched the residence and found the -- her bedroom window open and the screen on the ground outside.


VELEZ-MITCHELL: All right. The police are confirming that it was Isabel`s father who raced out to find her, and that it was the 14-year-old son who first called 911. When they said, "Oh, it was her sister," I think they were hearing a little boy`s voice and probably thinking it was a girl. His voice hasn`t changed yet.

So now we just heard the mom come back from the hospital where she works as a nurse, and she`s pretty hysterical. Again, cops say, they`re not sure if Isabel`s window was the entry point, but the window was open, the screen knocked out.

Jerry, New York, your question or thought? Jerry, New York.

CALLER: Hi, Jane. First of all, I love your show. I`ve been watching it since it was called Court TV. So...

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Yes. That`s wild. Yes.

CALLER: You know, I`ve been watching this from the get-go, and I didn`t trust him as far as I could throw him as soon as I saw his plea. There was not one tear. Everything sounded fishy to me.


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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Will you marry me?





B. CELIS: Hello?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Hello, ma`am, are you the mom?

B. CELIS: Yes.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: OK what is your name?

B. CELIS: My name is Rebecca Celis. C-E-L-I-S.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: OK. Anything else? Do you remember what she was wearing? Her hair?

B. CELIS: Her hair is in braids. It`s in little pony tails. I put little pony tails on her head last night before she went to bed.


VELEZ-MITCHELL: Pat Brown, criminal profiler, what do you make of the sound that we queued up thus far?

P. BROWN: Well, I don`t have any problem with that. But I am concerned that the father had the 14-year-old son call. You know, when you find your child is missing and you`re panicked, I don`t know, but I wouldn`t have my teenager doing it, doing the business of calling 911. I want to be sure I`m on the phone with them and getting information over to them as quickly is, as simply as possible. Not have my teenage kid do it.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Yes, but I have to say that it`s easy for us to quarterback this Monday morning, because who knows how we`d -- we would react when something like this goes down? Hysteria sets in, shock sets in.

P. BROWN: But I`m looking at -- I`m looking at all the past instances I know. Usually, what you have is the parent who wants to be responsible to get the police over there. When I see them put somebody else on the phone, like a man put his wife on the phone to have her do it and telling her stuff in the background, I`m usually suspicious of that, as well. Like they don`t want to be on the phone, because they don`t want to screw up a 911.

I`m not saying that`s what happened, but it is one more little, you know, thing that we have to take a look at here.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Oh, so you`re saying they don`t want to initially be on the phone, because they`re afraid they might betray themselves with something they say? Or if they can`t handle...

P. BROWN: It`s a possibility. It`s a possibility.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Yes. Again, he is not considered a suspect, but my understanding is that at some point the father does take the phone call, and we`re going to hopefully hear that. We`re trying to cue that up.

June, Pennsylvania, your question or thought, June?

Hey, June. June?

CALLER: Hello.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Hi there, June. Your question or thought, dear?

CALLER: Yes. I`m June from Pennsylvania.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: I know you are. And what`s your question or thought?

CALLER: My question is what evidence do they have on the father to go this far stopping him from seeing his children?

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Well, my gosh, if we knew that we would have solved the case. This is the big question mark.

Jeff Brown, criminal defense attorney, I sometimes wonder why police release this information so piecemeal. I mean, they don`t have to tell us anything, but yet they hold this news conference. They go out of their way to tell us that this father is no longer allowed to see the two boys, and that the mother has the two boys, ages 10 and 14. She`s living separately from him. And then they will not tell us why.

OK. I think we have more of the 911 call. Is what that my producer just said, yes? Yes, let`s play more of the 911 call from Isabel`s mother, Becky. Right now.


UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Who noticed her gone, your husband?

B. CELIS: My husband. I went to work this morning at 7 and...

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Did you hear anything at all?

B. CELIS: No, I didn`t hear anything at all.


VELEZ-MITCHELL: Wow. Jeff Brown, your thoughts on that? The mom saying she didn`t hear anything at all. She went to work at 7.

J. BROWN: Yes. I`m a little bit curious that she didn`t check in on her daughter before she left. But apparently, she leaves the house at 7 a.m., and then an hour later, he finds out that she`s missing.

It is a little suspect that he`s not on the phone, but you know, he might have been out looking for her and said quickly to his 14-year-old boy, "Hey, make that call."

But the real problem here, though, is that the cops really haven`t given us a lot of help here. Of course we were going to find out that he no longer had his two boys.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: More on the...



SERGIO CELIS, FATHER OF ISABEL: We miss you so much, Isabel. Your brothers miss you so much.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: The father of missing 6-year-old Isabel Celis can no longer have contact with his sons.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Do you have anything to hide?


REBECCA CELIS, MOTHER OF ISABEL: No, nothing. Say what you want to say, but in the end, we are confident we had nothing to do with it.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: The Child Protective Services have removed the two older boys from the Celis home and prohibited their father Sergio from seeing them.

S. CELIS: It`s taking a toll. It is wearing me down.

R. CELIS: You can see it in our faces.

S. CELIS: And it`s a lot of quiet cuddle time with them and holding them.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Why are officials keeping Isabel`s dad away from his own family?


JANE VELEZ-MITCHELL, HLN HOST: All right. We have got breaking news to bring you. It`s happening as we speak; I`m hearing them just as you are. Police are releasing the 911 calls of the first reports, the first time the Celis family called 911 to say hey, little Isabel -- we`ll show you video of Isabel as we speak -- little Isabel is missing.

This happened on April 20th I believe. No, April 21st. Yes. She was put to sleep on April 20th, April 21st, sometime around the morning hours, 8:00 approximately, she is found missing, according to her dad.

Listen to the 911 calls. 8:00 a.m., the dad discovers Isabel`s gone. The mother is a nurse, she`s working at the hospital, she rushes home and gets on the phone. Listen.


R. CELIS: Hello?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Hello, ma`am, are you the mom?

R. CELIS: Yes.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Ok, what is your name?

R. CELIS: My name is Rebecca Celis, C-E-L-I-S.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Ok. Anything else? Do you remember what she was wearing and her hair?

R. CELIS: Her hair is in braids, it`s in little pony tails. I made little pony tails on her head last night before she went to bed.


VELEZ-MITCHELL: All right. Now, we have queued up another portion of that 911 call. Obviously, the mother is distraught. She`s hysterical. She`s just come out from the hospital. She`s not the one who actually discovered the child missing. It`s supposedly Isabel`s father who discovered the child missing.

The 14-year-old son, the older brother, initially gets on the phone but we are not going to play that to you because he`s a minor and we are respectful of that. The mother picks the phone up from him and let`s listen to some more of her.


UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Who noticed her gone, your husband?

R. CELIS: My husband, I went to work this morning at 7:00. She has brown hair --

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Did you hear anything at all?

R. CELIS: No, I didn`t hear anything at all.


VELEZ-MITCHELL: Vikki Ziegler, family law attorney. My gosh, what a dramatic case and we`re going to play more of it as we are re-queueing it up. Your thoughts.

VIKKI ZIEGLER, FAMILY LAW ATTORNEY: Heart-wrenching. I mean you sound -- you hear hysteria in her voice. She comes home. She leaves, she thinks her child`s there, all of a sudden -- oh, my God. She probably came into the home, her husband`s saying, "Where`s Isabel?" Their son is on the phone with 911.

She must have not known what happened. And it`s so interesting. They asked her, did you hear anything. She said nothing before she left between 7:00 and 7:30 and went to work. So interesting.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Well, this is what`s interesting, criminal profiler Pat Brown, is that the cops have said the two older boys who were there, the 10 and the 14-year-old can stay with the mom. So they trust the mother to stay and care for the two boys. It`s the father that they have banned from seeing these children and even phoning these children.

And you dovetail that with the mother goes to work and she says I didn`t see anything, because she goes to work as a nurse very early in the morning at a hospital. The dad, who by the way is a dental hygienist, I believe, as well as an opera singer, he`s the one who supposedly discovers the child missing.

That`s a very narrow time frame ok. Pat Brown, that`s a narrow time frame to do something untoward. And I`m not saying he did. But hypothetically to do something untoward to a child, between 7:00 and 8:00, it`s a narrow time frame, isn`t it.

PAT BROWN, CRIMINAL PROFILER: That is narrow, but something could have happened before.

But let me tell you what I think is really interesting. If you do a little statement analysis on what the mom says. She said "We`re confident we had nothing to do with this." Now, you either had nothing to do with this but you`re not usually confident you had nothing to do with this. So that added word "confident" means to me that she is not confident that they didn`t have anything to do with this, which means I wonder that she does wonder something about her husband as well.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: What did you make of that?

ZIEGLER: You know what; we really don`t know what`s happening here. The father willingly leaves the house, we don`t know. Nobody`s seen the child, heard from the child, they have had 1,000 tips call in. The police are doing everything they can. They have had armies of institutions looking for this child. We don`t really know what`s going on, so it`s hard to speculate, you know --


VELEZ-MITCHELL: Mary Ann, New York -- Mary Ann New York, your question or thought?

MARY ANN, NEW YORK (via telephone): Hi, Jane, how are you?

VELEZ-MITCHELL: I`m fine, thank you.

MARY ANN: Thanks for all the work you do with children, animals and especially children.


MARY ANN: And I just love your show. I love everything about everyone that works for HLN.

But anyway, getting back, it seems to me after watching the dad a second time that he is playing a role. And it`s not a very good feeling that I`m getting from him. I think he`s feeding off of his wife`s sympathy and caring and I don`t believe that she has anything to do with anything and she`s in the dark.

But if you watch his posture, his -- he won`t look out and he is breathing very heavily. I didn`t see it the first time, at first I saw a distraught man. Now that I take a second look, I see something totally different in him.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Well, let me -- excellent points, Mary Ann, New York. Again, he`s not considered a suspect. But let`s take a look, ok at his actual statements shortly after his daughter disappeared. And for the parents of missing kids, sometimes it`s damned if you do, damned if you don`t, some criticized him for being too emotional. Let`s listen again.


S. CELIS: We`re looking for you Isa. We love you and we miss you so much. And we will never give up.

Just please, please to the person or persons who have Isabel, tell us your demands.

We miss you so much, Isabel. Your brothers miss you so much. We want you back, we`re looking for you. We will not stop looking for you.


VELEZ-MITCHELL: All right, Pat Brown, a lot of people have said that he seemed overly dramatic.

BROWN: Yes, well, you know, I -- it`s always really hard to tell. That is all I can say about that. We have had so many families on television that either you`re being truthful in your emotions, or you have learned from all the other families who have been on television how to behave. So it`s getting a little tricky I think to quickly analyze somebody and say whether they`re showing real emotions or not showing real emotions. So I don`t really come down on this side on that particular one.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: You know what this kind of reminds me of? It kind of reminds me of the Kyron Horman. Do we all remember that little boy, adorable child who vanished two years ago this June. At first the whole family was together at the initial news conference.

Remember this, when little Kyron vanished. And then they fractured. Kyron`s stepmom in the red hair there, Terry, she became the focus of the investigation. Kyron`s biological parents seemed united initially despite being divorced. But then Kyron`s mom ultimately turned on Kyron`s dad over her feelings that his wife, who quickly became estranged, was possibly in some way involved.

No one was ever charged in this case, but Vikki Ziegler, you`re a family lawyer attorney, nothing pits two people against each other, than my gosh, what were you thinking? This child disappeared on his watch.

ZIEGLER: And nothing can turn a marriage sour than that, even if it was a good marriage. You don`t want to ever believe that your spouse, the person you live with, love and sleep in the same bed with, could do anything to your own children, your own flesh and blood. And that`s what happens unfortunately in these cases.

And you know what; in the case we`re talking about we don`t know with Isabel. What happened? Nobody knows. Did the father do something to her? Did somebody take this child and steal it? We have no idea.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: It`s perplexing. But I think one of the things that we have to do is take a deep breath and step back and remind our viewers that this man is not being called a suspect by police. And Pat Brown, if he were a suspect at this point, wouldn`t cops call him a suspect?

BROWN: Cops never call anybody a suspect; hardly ever unless they really got so much incredible evidence against them. They don`t even like to call people persons of interest anymore for legal reasons. But you know, it`s very clear to me that the father is being looked at, the fact that the cadaver dog hit on something in the house and they said hit on objects.

It is concerning as well that something happened to Isabel in that household. I would say yes, he`s a person of interest but we don`t know whether he really has anything to do with this at this point. That`s what they`re trying to prove, yes or no.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: All right. Let`s roll again the mother. Her first reaction was she picks up the phone after racing backl home from her job. Let`s listen to this.


R. CELIS: Hello?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Hello, ma`am, are you the mom?

R. CELIS: Yes.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Ok. What is your name?

R. CELIS: My name is Rebecca Celis, C-E-L-I-S.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Ok anything else, do you remember what she was wearing and her hair?

R. CELIS: Her hair is in braids, it`s in little pony tails. I made little pony tails on her head last night before she went to bed.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Who noticed her gone, your husband?

R. CELIS: My husband. I went to work this morning at 7:00 and --

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Did you hear anything at all?

R. CELIS: No, I didn`t hear anything at all.


VELEZ-MITCHELL: No, I didn`t hear anything at all. What`s interesting there is that there`s no real -- I mean I`m wondering, again, this is sheer speculation. Somebody, did I hear anything. I would go, did I hear anything? Did I hear anything? How can you respond so quickly? Wouldn`t you want to take a moment to pause and reflect as to whether or not you really heard anything Vikki?

ZIEGLER: I think you know, within hysteria, those kinds of moments where you don`t know where your child is, you panic, you don`t really know what to say and you`re just absolutely freaking out.

I think the credibility that everyone`s pointing Sergio on, a lie detector I think was administered. That`s going to point to some information.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Tomorrow, we`re going to play these tapes in their entirety -- for the most part. But we`re processing them. We`re going to have all of them including the father when he gets on the phone, the center of this case. Sergio Celis, you`re going to hear him tomorrow on the show. So please, join us for that.

Up next, well, I want to lose weight, do you?



UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: A day with family and friends has left a young woman in the hospital fighting a flesh-eating bacteria.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: She fell off a homemade zip line, May 1st, slicing her leg. It got infected leaving doctors with no choice but to amputate her leg.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Her fingers basically appear mummified at this point. And it makes me shake to think about it.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: The disease Aimee has is called necrotizing fasciitis, which is a fancy way of saying flesh-eating bacteria.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The doctors are doing the best they can to try to save as much of her extensions or her hands as they possibly can.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: For something like this to happen to someone so bright is devastating.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You can only fight so much against something so insidious as the infection that she has.


VELEZ-MITCHELL: Flesh eating bacteria in her own backyard, how did a beautiful young grad student contract this horrible disease and are you in danger?

Amy Copeland, 24 years old, student at the University of West Georgia took a ride in a homemade zip line over a river. The line snapped. She fell and suffered a big gash on her hip.

The medical mystery started there, the Little Tallapoosa River, just 50 miles from Atlanta. We`re not talking third world conditions. This is smack in the middle of civilization.

Amy got the cut treated but it soon became clear she had a bad infections. Doctors diagnosed flesh-eating bacteria and they had to amputate her entire left leg as well a part of her hip and abdomen.

As her father explains, Aimee is unaware of this at this time.


ANDY COPELAND, FATHER OF AIMEE COPELAND: When we told her how long she had been at the hospital, I mean, her eyes just widened in horror. She goes I`ve got to work on my thesis. After we assured her of that, her eyes grew big again and we couldn`t understand what she was saying and so we called the nurse is who was a little better at lip reading.

Her nurse looked at her lips and looked at us and she said I think she`s saying "job". And I asked her. I said Aimee, are you worried about losing your job and she nodded her head.


VELEZ-MITCHELL: Straight out Dr. Leigh Vinocur; you`re a board certified emergency physician. I tell you all over this building, all over the streets, parties, everybody is worried, can I cash a flesh-eating bacterial disease? I mean people are freaked out by this, Doctor.

DR. LEIGH VINOCUR, BOARD CERTIFIED EMERGENCY PHYSICIAN: Yes. Well, it`s strep and it is the similar strep that people get strep throat from. But this particular strain a very invasive strain and that`s not everywhere. But it`s like this kind of perfect combination of things, you know.

Normally strep can live in your throat and some people never get sick, some people just get strep throat. But when it gets into other areas where it`s not normal and you have this invasive strain or you`re a diabetic, you have some immune problems, it can cause this invasive flesh- eating strep or necrotizing fasciitis where it gets into the muscles and the (inaudible) and it actually causes gangrene and it kills the muscles.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Well, yes. I heard it kind of like a perfect storm because this poor, beautiful young lady was exposed to water and also a warm climate where bacteria is found, Dr. Strand.

VINOCUR: Well, (inaudible) you know, you can be in the ocean, and ocean water is always clean, lake water, and it`s not, bacteria can live in water. She had a wound and the wound got infected. And the signs are, she started to get very high fever and it`s excruciatingly painful. When you have a wound that is not healing well and it`s very, very painful and you start getting fevers and then delirious, I mean that`s a medical emergency, you need to get to the ER right away.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: So this was a cut. She fell into some dirty water that had bacteria. We pray that she will survive.


VELEZ-MITCHELL: Lose weight with me in a second. But first, we deserve a laugh break, don`t we? Don`t we?






VELEZ-MITCHELL: We`re going to take you on a fabulous new adventure that could change your life -- nothing major overnight, no hard core discipline, no white knuckling it all the way through.


VELEZ-MITCHELL: It`s week two of our adventure to slim, you and me, doing this together with our personal healthy eating advocate Kathy Freston as our guide. You know Kathy from Oprah and Ellen -- there she is.

Her genius is she doesn`t believe in dieting. This is a fun adventure to shedding fat and pounds with no willpower. We`re taking you through Kathy`s bestseller "The Lean". You can check out her tips on my brand-new blog at or you can just go to my Facebook page. We`re going to show you those right now.

Ok. Kathy, let`s take a look here. We`re going to widen out a little bit to show what I`ve been doing. Widen, widen, widen, widen, widen, widen -- there we go. All right.

Kathy Freston, I`ve been eating an apple a day since this began a week ago, exactly a week ago. It`s been great and I`ve been drinking eight glasses of water a day. Why is water so important?

KATHY FRESTON, AUTHOR, "THE LEAN": Water helps you lose weight. That is the most magical thing. There`s something called pre-loading, and that means if you drink eight glasses of water a day and two cups specifically before each main meal, you will lose typically five pounds more fat in a 12-week period than people who don`t drink water.

And that`s because water fills up your belly. It literally is taking up space in your belly. You don`t feel as hungry. You don`t eat as many calories. And water also is good at hydrating your metabolism. Every system in your body needs water to function optimally. And the same goes for your metabolism.

Well, you`ve got great skin. I have to tell you, I don`t know if it`s my imagination but since I`ve been drinking this water, I feel like my complexion has improved. Not that it was terrible.

Now I want to show you these. I`ve had a bit of a challenge. Again, there we go. I started adding, like, lemon juice or orange -- like an orange peel to my water just to keep it interesting because, Kathy, I was finding it to be quite a challenge drinking all this water every day. What`s your strategy for drinking water?

FRESTON: You know, drinking water is just a habit. When I get out of the habit I think, oh, I`m not thirsty. I don`t want water. But you just force yourself a little bit and you start getting thirstier. I keep a pitcher of water on my desk throughout the day. Now this size pitcher right here --

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Let me see, pick it up so we can see it. If we could see it --

FRESTON: This is all you need all day long.


FRESTON: So that`s not that much, right? And if you just keep this on your desk or your kitchen counter, wherever you are -- I pour myself a glass the last thing at night so that first thing in the morning I swig it down and last thing at night I swig down a glass.

And I think it`s great that you`re putting lemon juice in there. There`s a wonderful phytonutrient called Lemonin (ph), it`s an antioxidant. And in petri dishes it`s been shown to kill off colon cancer cells and HIV cells, so it`s a very powerful antioxidant so keep squeezing that lemon. It`s really good for weight loss.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: I got so desperate I started putting cucumbers in the water to give it cucumber water because I was trying to mix it up. I`m trying to mix it up, Kathy.

FRESTON: Yes, ok, look at this bottle. This is not a big bottle. By the way, I don`t recommend using plastic bottles.



VELEZ-MITCHELL: Kathy, I agree with you. And tomorrow -- we`re going to show you some video right now of me walking around the city collecting plastic water bottles because it is the scourge of our existence. This is a nightmare. It`s costing us money. It`s destroying the planet. And there`s an easier solution.

You have to watch me tomorrow because I actually go out like a street person and collect all these bottles to prove a point that nobody really recycles.

Come back to me for a second and I`ll show you what I do. Kathy, I do four of these, that is the equivalent of eight glasses.

Your final thoughts on urging people to drink water?

FRESTON: Perfect. You know water is so good for weight loss. It`s so good for your health. It costs you nothing and it`s a great, great way to lose weight.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: So, Kathy, we`re going to continue with our viewers. The weight is going to pour off. An apple a day every day, eight glasses of water everyday.