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Greece To Have Second Round Of Elections June 17; King Kenny Out As Liverpool Manager; Ratko Mladic On Trial in Hague; Trial Stirs Memories for Bosnian Concentration Camp Survivor; Plastic Surgeon Helps Acid Burn Victims; Fusion Journeys: New Zealand Fashion Designer Travels to India; Parting Shots: Honda Introduces UNI-CUB

Aired May 16, 2012 - 16:00   ET


MAX FOSTER, HOST: Tonight on Connect the World, a new man at the top in Greece, but not for long as Greeks prepare to head back to the polls almost one month from today.

ANNOUNCER: Live from CNN London, this is Connect the World.

FOSTER: Tonight, there's talk of a EuroZone exit persists Greeks savers are withdrawing almost $1 billion a day, fearful for their country's financial future.

Also this hour, he's accused of some of the worst atrocities since World War II as Ratko Mladic goes on trial. We'll hear from a man who survived at the hands of his forces.

And King Kenny is knocked off his thrown: the Liverpool legend is given his marching orders.

Well, for the last 10 days Greece has been in political dire straits, but tonight at least two things are clearer, Greeks will go to the polls for the second time on June 17. Steering them towards that vote is this man Panagiotis Pikrammenos. He's a senior political judge. Now the country's caretaker prime minister.

But fears of a Greek exit from the EuroZone are still alive. Greek banks have seen an increase in money being withdrawn by customers afraid they'll lose it or see their savings devalued as Greece goes back to the dracma. On Tuesday, they took out $800 million euros. The Greek president says there's no panic yet, but quote, "there is fear that it could develop into a panic."

Now fears of a so-called Grexit (ph) hit the euro again today, but it managed to claw back. Greek banks were hit particularly badly, but for Europe's main stock markets, it was a mixed end to the day really, held up by news of the ECB which continued to spot Greek banks.

Now Elinda Labropoulou is in Athens. Elinda, no panic on the market. But what's the feeling like in the Greek capital?

ELINDA LABROPOULOU, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: I'd say concern. It's very much along the lines of what you've described the Greek president as saying. So in a way a warning. What we've been hearing about in terms of the banks and people being concerned about their savings and how long they'll be able to -- for Greece to stay in the EuroZone, questions about the future. This whole idea of, OK, now we have an election date. We have a caretaker government or a prime minister, the government will be sworn in tomorrow.

But the question here really is OK, in a month from now what will Greece look like? If Greece goes to the voting polls and, you know, what the numbers that we have now show is that the coalition of the radical left, the party that is pro-Europe, but anti-bailout, would probably be the party to win the election, but not a party that would be able to hold a majority government. Therefore, Greece would again be looking at a coalition government in a month from now. And the question there would be who would -- what would be so different in a month than today in order to be able to form such a coalition.

So if you walk around the streets of Athens like we have been doing today, you hear very mixed reports and basically what people are expressing is a lot of concern about the future. Let's hear what some of them had to say.


UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Eventually where this is going to lead, I have no idea. I am listening to all of you and I really don't have an option myself. I think most of Greeks, they don't have a concrete thing of what is going to happen now. We are looking and waiting. And probably praying for the best.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I have a question personally. I don't know what a singular country that followed the IMF instructions that is really going well.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: And since I think that the people will vote for the two main parties and to have a government in order to stay in Europe.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: In my opinion, we will have two or three more years to find stability hopefully in the EuroZone.


FOSTER: A lot of hope there. And only months ago it was unthinkable to talk about the so-called Grexit (ph). It's no longer a taboo, though. In an interview with CNN's Matthew Chance, the German Chancellor Angela Merkel reiterated her commitment to Greece remaining part of the EuroZone.


ANGELA MERKEL, GERMAN CHANCELLOR: I work for Greece remaining part of the EuroZone. Negotiations have been lead for this. The German parliament has made a clear decision to support Greece. These are two sides of one and the same coin -- the memorandum and the support we give. And I work for it that the two come together.

This is not only about budgetary police, about sound fiscal policy, but also about competitiveness. And competitiveness is something that you need to work for constantly, for example.


FOSTER: What do you make of this? Do Greeks really buy what Merkel is saying, that she's working hard to keep Greece in the EuroZone?

LABROPOULOU: Well, what the Greek people would like to see, they've been very much against most of the austerity policies that Mrs. Merkel has been talking about in relation to Greece. What they've been seeing is that austerity has only let the country into further recession. And what they're asking for is growth instead of austerity if Greece is to get out of this vicious cycle.

FOSTER: Elinda, thank you very much indeed for joining us.

At the moment, there's no sign of queues outside banks in Athens, but as Nina Dos Santos now reports withdrawals are increasing.


NINA DOS SANTOS, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Greece's sovereign debt crisis is now into its third year. And as such, people inside Greece have been becoming increasingly worried about keeping their money in the country's banking system and also in the single currency.

Now take a look at the monthly withdraws that we've seen. Since about January 2010 we've seen some $72 billion euros being withdrawn from Greek banks over that period. Sounds like a lot. Let me show you how much has been coming out on a monthly basis. It has picked up significantly.

This is what we saw during that period from January 2010 to now in terms of monthly withdrawals as you can see. It amounted to about 2 to 3 billion euros per month. That averages out at around $95 million euros every single working day.

But as I said, things have worsened significantly. In just the month of January 2012, well this jumps to a figure of 5 billion per month. And that roughly equates to about 227 million euros every single day.

So that's the thing you have to bare in your mind, 227 million euros every single day and then factor it in against this: we learned from the Greek president this week that just on Monday, May 14, Greeks took out a staggering 700 million euros in just one single day. In dollars, that amounts to just shy of $892 million. It's almost seven times the average that they normally take out just back in January 2010.

Nina Dos Santos, CNN, London.


FOSTER: Well, it is easy to get swept up in all the political and economic jargon on this story. Grexit (ph), devaluation, austerity versus growth, but make no mistake the Greek crisis and the threat it poses for EuroZone has global ramifications. Peter Morici is a professor at the University of Maryland.

First of all, put your cards on the table. What do you think Europe should do with Greece?

PETER MORICI, UNIVERSITY OF MARYLAND: Well, I think it's more important just what Greece should do about Europe. The EuroZone doesn't work for Greece. I think they should seek to negotiate an orderly withdrawal and a return to the Drachma. Propping up Greece isn't going to work. At the end of the day, the Europeans are going to have to take a massive restructuring of Greece's debt, a hair cut. I think it would actually be less, and Greece would be more competitive and better able to pay its debts, if it readopted the drachma.

FOSTER: OK. Stay with us, Peter, because you say you think Greece must leave the euro, but the leader of the leftist Syriza party, which it projects comes out on top actually in June's election, believes Greece can renegotiate the memorandum and stay within the euro.

Take a listen to what he had to say to CNN's Christiane Amanpour.


ALEXIS TSIPRAS, SYRIZA LEADER: I think that we have the same problem with Italy, with Spain, with Portugal, and also with Ireland. And I think that we will find partner in offering a single Europe. I'm looking very positive the change in France with Mr. Hollande win in the elections. We will try to find -- find partners, but I think that the political situation in Europe will change.


FOSTER: (inaudible) 15 minutes here on CNN. 10:00 pm in London, 11:00 pm in Berlin.

Peter, isn't the problem with allowing a Grexit (ph) that these banks are interlinked with so many other banks and so many other countries that the losses will be huge outside Greece. If they're big in Europe, they're going to be big in America?

MORICI: Well, they're going to be large losses no matter what they do. The austerity programs simply can't work. In order for Greece to be able to pay the debt that it owes inside the EuroZone, it must generate more export than it imports. And it must have a trade surplus so it earns euros ultimately to pay its debts. That would require Greece to become more competitive.

Austerity alone doesn't make Greece more competitive. What Greece needs to have is much lower prices and much lower wages so it can export. Absent its own currency that would require unemployment for five to 10 years at its present levels which is politically not sustainable.

Alternatively, if it had its own currency and remarked its debts to drachma then devaluation would lower the price of its exports, it would earn some foreign currency as it developed a trade surplus.

Now, the creditors would be paying in drachma that were worthless. But I suggest to you that the losses they would bear under those circumstances, both American and other European banks and governments, will be less than they would be if they continue on this course, because ultimately if they continue on this course Greece will not be able to pay its debts, they'll have to restructure again. And this time the European governments along with the banks will be in on the game in taking a haircut.

FOSTER: But you're also setting a precedent, which the market is going to take note of, because you talk about Greece going out of the euro being affordable. It wouldn't be affordable for Spain to get out of the euro. So then eyes go onto Spain and Portugal. And then the markets get in a panic because of what's happened before.

MORICI: Absolutely. There will be a domino effect. If Greece leaves than Spain, Italy, others may leave. However, if Greece defaults again on its debt and the banks tank yet another big haircut you'll have a similar domino effect and there will be a panic about Portugese, Spanish and Italian debt.

Right now we're seeing you know massive withdrawals of money from Greek banks because people are shaky about them. They're nervous. And we're seeing bond rates go up on Italian and Spanish debt.

It isn't as though austerity can work. It's not a choice between being taking a lot of pain now so you can get out of this mess, or pursuing another course leaving the euro. They're going to take a lot of pain and they're not going to get out. It's not going to work.

FOSTER: Peter Morici, thank you very much as ever for joining us on the program and helping us understand a hugely complex story.

You are watching Connect the world live from London. Our top story tonight, ballot cards at the ready: Greece will go to the polls again on June 17. A new caretaker prime minister is announced. It's far too soon to talk of any kind of run on the banks, but there are concerns that Greece's future in the EuroZone may be determined by Greeks as bank customers not as voters.

Still to come tonight on the Bosnian War survivors waited nearly two decades for this day. Ratko Mladic, a once feared Bosnian-Serb general, now in the dock of The Hague.

King Kenny loses it's crown: Liverpool football manager Kenny Dalglish is shown the door. We'll be discussing why and what's next for Liverpool.

And the doctor giving new hope to acid attack victims in Pakistan.


FOSTER: You're watching CNN. And this is Connect the World with me, Max Foster. Welcome back to you.

Now no sign of remorse today for Ratko Mladic as his war crimes trial got underway at The Hague. The former Bosnia-Serb general sat impassively as prosecutors accused him of orchestrating a campaign of ethnic cleansing during a Bosnian civil war.


DERMOT GROOME, PROSECUTOR: Two decades ago this past month Bosnian- Serb leaders commenced an attack on their fellow citizens of Bosnia and Herzegovina. Civilians who were targeted for no other reason than they were an ethnicity other than Serb. Their land, their lives, their dignity attacked in a coordinated and carefully planned manner.

In some locations, this attack arose to the level of genocide.


FOSTER: Well, those accusations didn't seem to phase Mladic. In fact, he seemed to taunt war survivors who were in court. At one point drawing his finger across his throat in a slitting motion. We'll have much more on this story ahead and a live report from The Hague.

Here's a look now at some other stories connecting our world tonight. And former Liberian President Charles Taylor spoke for the last time at The Hague before his sentencing at the end of May. The convicted war criminal denied encouraging human rights abuses during the civil war in Sierra Leone. Last month, Taylor was found guilty of 11 war crimes, but today he accused prosecutors of paying and threatening witnesses to testify against him.


CHARLES TAYLOR, FRM. LIBERIAN PRESIDENT: The prosecution received millions of dollars from the United States government outside of the official funding process of the court administration. The prosecution has never fully accounted for how those monies were spent or received how much and for what purpose or purposes. Witnesses were paid, coerced, and in many cases threatened with prosecution if they did not cooperate.


FOSTER: Well, more bloodshed across Syria. Opposition activists say at least 15 people have been killed today. Damascus blames the violence on what it calls armed terrorist groups. Earlier on Wednesday, six UN monitors made it back to the city of Hamaa after a close call. Their convoy hit a roadside bomb. They escaped injury, but the UN observers were stranded overnight in a town that came under heavy shelling by regime forces.

Now the FBI say it's investigating JPMorgan Chase over the company's $2 billion trading loss. On top of that, some shareholders are suing America's biggest bank and its CEO Jamie Dimon in two separate cases. They accuse JPMorgan and its management to excessive risk after a unit that was meant to manage risk put big money on insurance-like bets called credit default swaps.

South Korean officials want to know what cause a Hyundai Sonata to speed up and race through busy city streets before slamming into a parked car. 17 people were injured. The dashboard camera was rolling during the wild ride earlier this month. The footage went viral. Hyundai says the vehicle is being investigated by the Korean national forensics service.

Well we're going to take you to a short break now, but when we come back one of Liverpool's biggest legends is back as club manager. We'll have the details for you just ahead.


FOSTER: We are watching Connect the World live from London. Welcome back. I'm Max Foster.

Kenny Dalglish has been shown the door from Anfield. The club's American owners terminate his contract as team manager. Dalglish lead the Reds to their first trophy in six years when they claimed the league cup in February, but that wasn't nearly enough as Liverpool recorded the fewest wins in a top flight season since 1954 with 14, finishing eighth.

Now more on this and we go to Don who is at CNN Center. I mean, the fans wanted him out, didn't they? But for those non-fans explain why he went.

DON RIDDELL, CNN SPORTS CORRESPONDENT: Well, you know I think even the Liverpool's fans were kind of mixed on this, because Kenny Dalglish is a club icon. He played for Liverpool for some 13 seasons. He was arguably their most successful player ever. He was a pretty good manager as well, taking them to three league titles in the late 1980s.

But on his second spell as manager things didn't go quite so well. His signings were questionable. He spent an awful lot of money, some $160, $170 million on a handful of new players many of whom really haven't delivered for their club this year. And as you pointed out, you know the statistics, the few amount of wins they had. They were awful at home in the league. And sure they won the Carling Cup this year, but that really is only a trophy. It doesn't really count for anything when the really important thing for a team like this, considering their history and their stature is they need to be finishing much higher up the league, challenging for league titles and playing in the Champion's League.

So I think the fans really have mixed emotions today, because he is such a hero in Liverpool, but in the last year the success of his team wasn't really there to speak of.

Here's what the fans have had to say.


UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Not good news. We didn't do well this season, but (inaudible). Look, we can't go another season of getting a new manager then. It's not too many candidates out there, probably only Jose Mourinho.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I think he should be given another year. It's a work in progress.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: He has won any. He's only won one club in a season. Obviously we are business, we're not a -- we are a football club and a business at the same time, you know what I mean. We need to make money to buy more players obviously to get us back into the elite competition in the autumn.


RIDDELL: Max, Liverpool are of course owned by an investment group here in America by Fenway Sports Group which is based in Boston.

Let's bring you up a statement from their head John Henry. This is what he had to say today following this dismissal. "He didn't ask to be manager. He was asked to assume the role. He did so because he knew the club needed him. However, the results in the Premier League have been disappointing and we believe to build on the progress that has already been made, we need to make a change."

Dalglish himself has also released a statement today. This is what he had to say, "it has been an honor and a privilege to have had the chance to come back to Liverpool as manager. I'm disappointed with the results in the league, but I wouldn't have swapped the Carling Cup win for anything as I know how much it meant to our fans and the club to be back winning trophies."

FOSTER: It's all the fans want, of course Don.

So what do you think is next for the Reds. What hope can you offer those fans?

RIDDELL: Well, I'm not sure how much hope I can personally offer them. I think its going to be an absolutely crucial summer for Liverpool. We've got only a few weeks really to sort of regroup and prepare again for the next season which starts again in August. The summer transfer window opens in only two weeks time. And you have to wonder what on earth Liverpool are going to do?

Right now they don't have a manager or an assistant manager, or a head of communications, or a chief executive, or a director of football, all those people have been let go in the last few weeks and months. So you certainly get the sense that a major restructure and a rebuild is going to take place at Liverpool and it cane even begin with the players, because the back room situation needs to be sorted out and all that is going to be done by a group of people that is based some 3,000 miles away.

So if I was a Liverpool fan at the moment, I'd be a little bit concerned.

FOSTER: OK, Don, thank you very much indeed for that. That's good stuff. And we'll wait to see what those -- how the team develops, actually.

We got to speak -- we've got some former Leeds United player comments for you. Nicky Byrne tweeting saying "gutted for King Kenny. Should have gave him more time. Liverpool used to have faith in managers, now they are as bad as Chelsea."

Now the former Liverpool player Stan Collymore wrote, "get the right man, not the cheap man next. Top quality manager proven at a big club," he wants. He also went on to say that "if FSG are serious Guardiola, Capello, and Hiddink" should be the caliber they are looking for. Martinez, Rogers, and Lambert absolutely not for Liverpool Football Club."

It's going to rumble on.

Still to come here on Connect the World, though. He is accused of orchestrating the worst massacre in Europe since World War II, but former Bosnian-Serb general Ratko Mladic gave the thumbs up as his trial began at The Hague.

We meet a doctor helping victims of acid attacks as well in Pakistan.

Plus, be seated: Honda rolls out a sneak peek at its personal motor vehicle device. Will it electrify consumers?


MAX FOSTER, HOST: A very warm welcome to our viewers across Europe and around the world. I'm Max Foster and these are the latest world headlines from CNN.

A senior judge is now Greece's interim prime minister. He'll serve until new elections are held on June the 17th. Greece's fractured political parties failed to form a coalition government ten days after the initial election and Greek savers worried about a possible exit from the eurozone are continuing to withdraw millions of dollars from their banks.

Ratko Mladic showed no emotion as prosecutors began making their case at the Hague. The former Bosnian-Serb general is on trial for atrocities stemming from Bosnia's civil war. At one point, he seemed to taunt war victims in court, drawing his finger across his throat in a slitting motion.

Former Liberian president Charles Taylor got one last chance to make his case before a special court sentences him for war crimes on May the 30th. Taylor was convicted last month of fueling a brutal civil war in neighboring Sierra Leone. He called the verdict unfair.

Liverpool have let manager Kenny Dalglish go, judging that an 8th place Premier League finish wasn't good enough for one of England's most storied football clubs. Liverpool's owners say a search for a new manager will begin immediately.

Those are the headlines this hour.

Let's get more, now, on the long-awaited war crimes trial of Ratko Mladic. We'll go live to the Hague in just a few moments, but first a brief reminder of Mladic's alleged crimes.

The former Bosnian-Serb general is accused of masterminding a campaign of ethnic cleansing during the Bosnian civil war in the 1990s. That includes the massacre at Srebrenica, where 8,000 Muslim men and boys were killed. It was Europe's worst mass-killing since World War II.

Today, Mladic listened stoically to these accusations, showing no apparent emotion. But at one point, he did seem to threaten war victims in the court. Nic Robertson reports.


NIC ROBERTSON, CNN SENIOR INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Allegation after brutal, murderous allegation, delivered in precise monotones by the prosecutor, Dermot Groome. For the most part, Ratko Mladic either nodded, took notes, or stared menacingly at the public gallery a few feet away.

The case, as the prosecutors lay it out, backed up by graphic videos. This one, the aftermath of Serb shelling on a Sarajevo market. If Mladic had remorse, it didn't show.

He sat impassively through this, too.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: "Whenever I come by Sarajevo, I kill someone in passing."

ROBERTSON: Mladic, getting his first insight into how the prosecution plans to convict him.

DERMOT GROOME, PROSECUTOR, THE HAGUE: -- and provide evidence of this aspect of the campaign of terror. He will describe his orders to shoot at anything that moved down below his perch.

ROBERTSON: Victims will get their say, too. Groome, quoting from one woman --

GROOME: "Up to that day, I had been raped by almost 50 of them. I didn't want to see who was coming in, who was going out, and whenever they would bring me back, I would just tear my hair and say, 'Oh, what are they doing to us?'"

ROBERTSON: Not visible on the courtroom cameras, other victims, struggling with grief and anger.

ROBERTSON (on camera): Sitting in the courtroom, there, just a few feet away from Mladic, I'm reminded of the times that I met him during the Bosnian War. He's lost none of his intensity.

And not for the first time, he drew his finger across his throat, looking at some of the victims. An indication that he wanted to kill them. And not for the first time, the judge told him that that wasn't going to be tolerated.

ROBERTSON (voice-over): Even his lawyer can't control him.

ROBERTSON (on camera): But does it help you as his lawyer when he makes these gestures in open court?

BRANKO LUKIC, MLADIC'S ATTORNEY: Of course not. Of course not. I -- every time I try to tell him that I disagree, but I cannot -- handcuff him. He does what he wants.

ROBERTSON (voice-over): His victims, who'd waited almost two decades for this, had hoped for so much more from Mladic, and got so much less. Many had traveled almost 1,000 miles from Bosnia, this day bittersweet.

"Justice has begun," this victim says. "But the international help is too late. They should have stopped the killings."

In the history of this court, Mladic's trial is billed as the biggest, most important. His fate, though, only part of the healing, one trial at a time, 18 months or so before Mladic's verdict is expected. It won't be the last time these banners are brought out.


ROBERTSON: There's another day of the prosecution laying out their case. Then, it'll be getting into the trial proper in the coming months, and the indications that we heard from the prosecutor today, a lot of witnesses to come forward.

And if anything that we've heard from him today, some of that testimony we're going to hear is going to be very shocking Max.

FOSTER: Yes, OK, Nic. Thank you very much for following the trial for us. And many survivors of the Bosnian War were glad to see Mladic's trial finally get underway, but his appearance today was also bringing back traumatizing memories for some.

Satko Mujagic is one of those survivors. He was detained in a concentration camp by Bosnian-Serb forces in 1992. Mujagic traveled to the Hague to hear the case against Mladic in person.


SATKO MUJAGIC, SURVIVOR OF BOSNIAN CONCENTRATION CAMP: To be honest, I did not expect how much impact it would have on me personally because I'm dealing with past -- our past in Bosnia and the war which happened there, just as for years, as all of us, all Bosnian people.

But -- meaning that I kind of got used to it, let's say. But indeed, this morning when I saw this man, especially when he was kind of smiling and laughing while watching videos, images from Sarajevo, from Srebrenica, people dying in the streets, people from Srebrenica being shot in their backs, civilians.

I couldn't stand it, to be honest. I just had to go out to have a smoke, and I was very emotional for some minutes.

FOSTER: I don't mean to pry too much, but what exactly was going through your mind when you saw that reaction from him?

MUJAGIC: Actually, what touched me most after I saw him was the moment when Radovan Karadzic, his political leader at the time, who's also, of course, accused here of genocide, as Mladic.

When I saw him again and I noticed him, but still, in Bosnian parliament in October 91, actually threatening Bosnian Muslims, Bosniaks now, with genocide. I don't know which word he exactly used, I can't remember in English, but actually, to be destroyed.

Then I looked at this and I realized that's what they did. I realized the moment, I remembered this image when I was 19, this threat. Now we are 20 years later, and I kind of look back in my life, how many people lost their lives for this -- for their cause.

FOSTER: What specific memories of yours came to mind today, because you were in a camp, weren't you?

MUJAGIC: We can -- yes, we can say we as a family, we were relatively lucky, because my parents and brothers and sisters survived. But my father was with me in a concentration camp Omarska, and the rest of the family Trnopolije camp, also, in Prijedor region, Prijedor municipality.

But my grand-grandmother stayed at home, and we never found her. I didn't -- we don't even have remains of her to rebury. A best friend of mine got killed. Many of my friends, cousins, neighbors, my teacher of chemistry from gymnasium from Prijedor and other professors were killed in Omarska.

So, I kind of had a flashback of their faces just after Karadzic said, "We're going to destroy you." And then that was the moment when I left.

FOSTER: And then, is this somehow therapeutic to people that were involved in all of this, or is it a case of just wanting to see justice done?

MUJAGIC: This is crucial for recognition of what happened. Through this process, in the political leadership in Serbia, in Bosnia-Herzegovina, in Croatia, and all the Balkans, it will help to recognize, and then we can finally speak of real reconciliation.


FOSTER: Well, coming up on CONNECT THE WORLD, they've had their lives and their bodies blighted by violence, but this doctor is bringing hope to acid attack victims in Pakistan.


FOSTER: Well, it is a very worrying trend, acid attacks on women and men in Pakistan. One aid organization said it sees over 150 victims each year, and the total figure is likely to be much higher. These attacks can leave people permanently disfigured. I recently met one plastic surgeon helping many burns patients with their recovery.


FOSTER (voice-over): A beautiful face, scarred by acid. British model Katie Piper was disfigured in an attack organized by her ex- boyfriend. Since that day in March 2008, Katie's face has been reconstructed by this man, Dr. Mohammad Jawad.

MOHAMMAD JAWAD, PLASTIC SURGEON: When I presented Katie Piper, this was an off case, they were very happy and encouraged me. They said, "This is very good."

But I wasn't expecting -- I didn't want to see any further cases, at least in this part of the world or any part of the world.

FOSTER: But the London-based plastic surgeon soon learned that Katie was just one of thousands of acid victims, and many of them were from his home country, Pakistan.


UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE (through translator): It took one second to ruin my life completely. One second.


JAWAD: When I took my team there in January 09, I saw these 25 women waiting outside. I didn't have my own patient base, so somebody has to be. And every case was a huge, huge challenge and a huge, terrible broken story.

But that would excite us. Plastic surgeons are slightly genetically defective, because we love the challenges, to be honest.


JAWAD: I'm having a party. This is more fun doing than doing a boob job, to be honest.


FOSTER: The Academy Award-winning film, "Saving Face," follows Dr. Jawad's efforts to rebuild the lives of women in Pakistan, disfigured by acid burns. It also documents their fight for justice.

JAWAD: There are no clear laws about acid. This is a very convenient way to destroy and take away their faces. They are not throwing this acid at any other parts of the body. But it's usually your face, somebody's face.

So, you're not good for me, but I'm going to make sure you're not going to be dead, or you'll be walking dead and you'll be made example.


UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE (through translator): When this kind of thing happens, people around here will make your life hell. This is considered a disgrace.


FOSTER (on camera): Is there a typical case of something that's happened and it's brought this response on?

JAWAD: All are young women, mostly, done by a man, premeditated.

FOSTER: Who tends to be older.

JAWAD: Tends to be not necessarily order. It's the same group. So, somebody sends a proposal, jealousy, mostly it's jealousy. But I think some addiction is involved, some -- it's a toxic mix of poverty, illiteracy, poor laws, and these women would not fall or kind of just defying whatever the demands were.

FOSTER: And this is the ultimate form of domestic abuse?

JAWAD: I think --


FOSTER: Or, the ultimate form is killing, obviously.

JAWAD: -- an extreme manifestation of domestic violence, yes. Some people say it's 50 to 60 a month, some say 50 to 100 a year. I'm not even sure about that, OK? Because there is no records. But for me, even one case is too many, because it is happening right in front of our eyes.

FOSTER (voice-over): Among the women that Dr. Jawad has been treating in Pakistan is Zakia. The young mother was the first victim to receive justice under new laws, which recognize acid attacks as a crime. Zakia was attacked after asking her abusive husband for a divorce.


JAWAD (through translator): First, tell me what happened with your court case.

ZAKIA, ACID BURN VICTIM (through translator): He received a double life sentence.

JAWAD (in English): Yes!

You know what? In a way, I'm saving my own face, because I'm part of this society.


FOSTER (on camera): You've talked about finally saving yourself through this work. Explain what you mean by that.

JAWAD: OK, I'll explain to you very honestly. I am a -- I'm a product of Pakistan system. I got my medical education virtually free, of course? That poor country's taxpayers funded my higher education, so I literally paid 1,000 rupees for an American school, which is about $10. So, for me, I've identified one way to redeem myself.

FOSTER: So, giving something back to Pakistan?

JAWAD: Yes. And I'm having a great time doing that. And I'm going back -- any excuse to go back, because it's a lot of fun giving back.


UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE (through translator): First, I thank God, then I thank you.

JAWAD (through translator): Come meet your mother.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE (through translator): How do I look?

UNIDENTIFIED GIRL (through translator): You look fantastic. She really looks fantastic.

JAWAD (through translator): You've got your old mom back? She was lost for a while, wasn't she?



FOSTER: What a guy, eh? You are watching CONNECT THE WORLD. When we come back, she says fashion is the theater of dreams. Designer Trelise Cooper's on an exotic journey to India. We take a look at what she's conjuring up for her next collection.


FOSTER: New Zealand-born designer Trelise Cooper has wowed the fashion world with her electric -- her eclectic designs, and fans of her work include Julia Roberts and Catherine Zeta-Jones, to name just a few. In this week's Fusion Journey, we follow her to Bollywood as she spices up her new collection.



TRELISE COOPER, FASHION DESIGNER: I'm Trelise Cooper. I'm a fashion designer based in Auckland, New Zealand. To compete on the world stage, we have to travel. For my next journey, I'm off to India, and I'm really excited.

I always pack with the hangers so when I get to the hotel I just hang my garments up.


COOPER: I'm here to really discover the beautiful, different, hand- worked craft that happens in India.

Oh, that's beautiful. Oh, that's gorgeous, I love the colors.

I come to this roadside market for inspiration in beading techniques, color. I find it very exciting, very inspirational.

Look at that. That is just a visual symphony to me. It's all beautiful.

I expect to take back the influences of India, the beauty, the color, the very old techniques, the textures, the layering, the details. There's no other place, really, for a designer, I don't think, other than India if you want that real beauty.

I'm also here to do business. I'm going to a couple of suppliers. I'm really hoping that they'll show me new ideas in beading.

Wow! This show looks exciting.

Gosh, there's some beautiful new techniques. I love this.

My aim is to collect an array of samples that will inspire my future collections.

That tape, is that all hand-done?


COOPER: Oh, my gosh! Can we do without some tape, then? Make it just a bit easier so that it's not so fitted.

Why don't we use that top on that? Maybe we just rework the top.

It's a collaboration between what I do as a designer and what they show me, so I come with an idea I think I'm going to do, then I get to their showrooms and they show me something entirely different, something that takes me on a whole new journey. And it's written and informed by a conviction and a way that no other inspiration does.


COOPER: I'm in Old Delhi, and this is the place where all the accessories, textiles, ribbons, bows, buttons, beads. And I come here so that I know what I can get from a supplier.

It's good for me to come here and discover. It's also really inspirational, because there's ideas here that I haven't thought about, and there's opportunities to use all sorts of different laces and braids. A treasure trove of incredible handwork and color and passion.

Can I open this one? How much is it for me to see?

This is the beginning of my inspiration here, and that's what Old Delhi market is for. There's nothing like it in the world, nowhere else in the world.

Two more packets, please.

Everything I've seen today has been amazing, and it's exciting and I'm just happy that the world has India, really.

I'm sad to bid farewell to India, but it's time to get home and start designing.



FOSTER: Well, do join us on Friday to see Trelise's designs come to life. We'll see how her trip to India has inspired her new collection and her life in general, in fact. If you can't wait for Friday, you can go to our website, You can read all about Trelise's trip to India and get a behind-the-scenes preview of her new collection.

Now, in tonight's Parting Shots, forget social mobility, for Honda, it's all about personal mobility. It's not for sale just yet, but the Japanese car marker has released a sneak peak at what it calls the UNI-CUB, its latest electric device.

The idea is to make it easier to get around large buildings, such as airports and museums. All you do is sit down and shift your weight to get it from A to B, apparently. Once these hit the shops, who knows? You may need speed bumps inside your office. They do look a bit odd, but it may take off.

I'm Max Foster, that was CONNECT THE WORLD, thank you for watching. The world headlines are up next for you after this short break.