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New Information on Sikh Temple Shooter; Curiosity Lands On Mars; Searching For Alien Life; How the Sikh Shooting Unfolded; Sikh Community Reacts to Shooting; Romney Outpaces Obama in Fundraising; Dow Posting More Gains But Choppy Days Ahead; 67 Years Since Hiroshima

Aired August 6, 2012 - 13:00   ET


MICHAEL HOLMES, CNN CONTRIBUTOR: You know, several stories caught our attention today and photographs, too, so let's take a look.

A photographer, check. The bride and groom, check. And throw in a few fishes, just part of the wedding checklist for this couple sharing a kiss during their underwater wedding at the Sea Life Aquarium in Spain.

Photographs in Hiroshima, Japan, a boy releases a paper lantern into the river to honor the victims of the Hiroshima atomic bombing in World War II. And estimated 70,000 people died instantly; today is the 67th anniversary.

The next hour of the NEWSROOM starts right now.


JOHN BERMAN, CNN HOST: Hi, there, I'm John Berman, filling in for Suzanne Malveaux. This hour in the CNN NEWSROOM, we are learning more about the white supremacist background of the man accused of gunning down six members of a Sikh temple in Wisconsin, and we are hearing from relatives of those killed.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: He left this world protecting the church, protecting the people. And now we're trying to figure out who's going to protect our hearts from this pain.

BERMAN: Police say the gunman in the Sikh temple shooting ambushed one of their officers and gunned down worshipers preparing for Sunday service.

Authorities identified the shooter as 40-year-old Wade Michael Page. Sources say he was an Army veteran, possibly a white supremacist. He was discharged from the Army in 1998 for patterns of misconduct.

And the alleged gunman was killed in the rampage. Brian Todd joins us now live from Oak Creek, Wisconsin, where just a few moments ago, police held a news conference.

And, Brian, walk us through what happened.

BRIAN TODD, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Well, John, some riveting new detail of the incident, the suspect, some of the details you just mentioned. Again, to recap for our viewers, they've released a picture of the suspect, this is Wade Michael Page, 40 years old.

Some new information about him that we learned in the news conference just a few moments ago that he is -- that he does have a criminal record. Officials would not go into detail, but they said he did have some contact with law enforcement in the past. They are pretty adamant at this point, pretty confident that he was the only shooter involved.

But here is another picture that they released. This is a person of interest, a white male, average height, who police and federal law enforcement authorities say showed up at the scene after the shootings and acted suspiciously. They want the public's help in trying to find this man and interview him.

They say he acted suspiciously and then left the scene, but they reiterate, they still believe that Wade Michael Page acted alone in this. And they have no reason to believe at the moment that he had any collaborators.

Some other new details, John, about how this shooting went down, incredible detail. The police chief, John Edwards, said basically that the suspect ambushed the lead police officer, who was the first one to respond, shot him at very close range eight or nine times. That officer has been identified as Lieutenant Brian Murphy, 51 years old a 21-year veteran of the police force. He had been a member of the tactical teams here as well.

And in incredible detail, the police chief said that when -- after the suspect was taken down by the other officers and the -- after the initial exchange of gunfire, his fellow officers ran to try to help Lieutenant Murphy, the first officer hit there.

And Lieutenant Murphy waved them into the temple, said get into the temple and help the civilians that were there. He had been shot seven or eight or nine times, he waved his fellow officers into the temple and just an incredible act of heroism as reflected by the police chief.

General comments, again, getting back to this suspect, we have learned that he worked as a -- somebody who made parts for welding supply companies and that he worked nights. That came from a landlord of his who we spoke to.

My colleague, Ted Rowlands, reported that he also may have worked as a delivery person. Some other detail and some general information given on the suspect by the police chief at the news conference just a moment ago. Take a listen.


UNIDENTIFIED MALE: As far as some of the information that was obtained on him, I know there's much that has been put out in the media already regarding him. And some of that we are looking at. We can say that he was in the military, 1992 to 1998. He had a general discharge, and that he was ineligible for reenlistment.

I want to make it perfectly clear right now he is the only shooter that was involved at the temple.


TODD: And to add to the detail on his military career, we have been told by Pentagon officials that Page was discharged after a pattern of misconduct, that he had served as a -- some kind of a technician for Army Hawk missile systems and then became part of the psychological operations teams, so we are piecing together some of the detail of the suspect's past, John.

BERMAN: All right, Brian.

Brian Todd, on the ground at Oak Creek, Wisconsin, thanks very much.

Our Drew Griffin has been digging deeper into the background of Wade Michael Page, the shooting suspect, and Drew joins us now live.

Drew, I understand that the Southern Poverty Law Center, a group that tracks hate groups, has had Page on their radar for some time. What can you tell us about this?

DREW GRIFFIN, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Since about 2000, John, that's when he appeared in the white supremacist band scene, these skinhead kind of group bands that go around, and then in 2005, is when he apparently -- the suspect apparently began his own band, called End Apathy.

We know this because he has his own website, obviously, and other promotions, but the group was frequently with other major hate group bands, John, on stages with what would be the big time players in the white supremacist music movement.

Now in 2010, the suspect, Wade Michael Page, gave a interview to a record label in the white supremacist movement, Label 56, and I just want to put up one quote from that interview.

This is according to Page about his lyrics. "The topics vary from sociological issues, religion and how the value of human life has been degraded by being submissive to tyranny and hypocrisy that we are subjugated to."

What is important about the white supremacist rock band music, John, is that's where a lot of the recruiting goes on. That's one of the main recruitment for these hate groups around the country, not very big movement, but it's certainly there and they partake in these festivals, where they try to recruit new kids into their movement.

BERMAN: I was looking at some of the song lists on the MySpace page for this group, and one of them was titled, I believe, "Definition of Hate." So they clearly were not trying to hide some of their feelings, Drew.

GRIFFITH: Absolutely not. They wear tattoos -- we heard from the police that early on they could tell he was in some kind of a hate group just based on tattoos. We don't have details, but they are quite specific as to various movements throughout the country.

And I, too, went on the website. Quite frankly, I've been told that the lyrics are really horrific, talking about genocide to Jews and people of color. But I could not understand the lyrics when I played the music, and I can't get any printouts. So I don't have any very specific indications of what this particular suspect's lyrics were.

I can just tell you that he was in playing with major groups and his band played on the same stage as some of these other very hate-filled bands.

BERMAN: All right. Drew Griffin, thanks very much. So much more to learn about Wade Michael Page, and I know you will be looking into it.

One of the heroes on Sunday was Satwant Kaleka. He is seen here in this Facebook photo. He is the president of the temple. He was killed when he tried to tackle the gunman and he was shot in the back. This morning on "EARLY START" I spoke to his niece and nephew about his death and what this man meant to the community.

SIMRAN KALEKA, TEMPLE PRESIDENT'S NIECE: Well, he was an amazing man. He left this world protecting the church, protecting the people, and now we are trying to figure out who is going to protect our hearts from this pain.

KANWARDEEP SINGH KALEKA, TEMPLE PRESIDENT'S NEPHEW: He was definitely one of the most dedicated individuals I could ever see, and one of the most happiest people in the world. And he did so much to create this community, to create this temple, and to help involve those in the community.

And what we understand, he basically fought to the very end, and suffered gunshot wounds while trying to take down the gunman. He was a protector of his own people, just an incredible individual who showed his love and passion for our people, our faith, until the end.

BERMAN: And we understand that he was shot while trying to tackle the gunman, truly, you know, a hero in this tragic, tragic episode.

Kanwardeep, I understand that in the midst of all of this chaos yesterday, in this tragedy for your family, you were actually on the scene, helping the police to talk to witnesses there, and translate for some of them who do not speak English so well.

What did the people inside this temple tell you that they saw?

K. KALEKA: I mean, there was a lot of commotion, so people didn't have the most clear picture. They didn't remember exactly how many gunshots they heard, but some of the ladies who were making food for the congregation in the kitchen overheard some gunshots. And some of them went down to the basement to where their kids were playing, to protect their kids.

One of the husbands was one of the leaders, the religious leaders of the temple. He went to go see what had happened, and unfortunately, he was also killed right on the spot. And just a great man. And his family just came from India three weeks ago, you know. You see a man so happy to see his kids and his wife, and now he doesn't have that.


BERMAN: Moments of extreme loss, but also some moments of heroism there. The shooting in Wisconsin prompted police in New York to step up security at Sikh temples. Police say it is a precaution against any possible violence.

They say there has been no specific threats against Sikh temples since the September 11th terrorist attacks. Sikhs say they've often been mistaken as Muslims and targeted for hate crimes.

President Obama pledges the country's support to the Sikh community. In a statement, he said, "At this difficult time, the people of Oak Creek must know that the American people have them in our thoughts and prayers, and our hearts go out to the families and friends of those who were killed and wounded.

"My administration will provide whatever support is necessary to the officials who are responding to this tragic shooting and moving forward with an investigation."

While the shooting was a horrific act of violence, it is not an isolated incident. Hundreds of attacks have been reported against Sikhs since 9/11, and we're going to talk to the leader in the Sikh community about the rise in this violence. That is just ahead. Here is what else we are working on for this hour.


BERMAN (voice-over): Talk about excited -- I mean really excited. NASA scientists react to the touchdown of the Mars rover Curiosity. We will show you the latest amazing pictures from the planet. Plus hear why the search for life on Mars is such a big deal.

Then why Olympian Ryan Lochte says he is going to miss the rivalry with his buddy, Michael Phelps. Do you believe him?

And we are going to hear from the last surviving crew member from the Enola Gay on this 67th anniversary of the Hiroshima atomic bombing.



UNIDENTIFIED MALE (voice-over): Touchdown confirmed. We are safely on Mars!


JOHN BERMAN, CNN ANCHOR: You will never see a more excited group of scientists anywhere or really anyone who's ever looked up into the sky and wondered if there is life on other planets. That's because the rover Curiosity reached Mars this morning, where it will search for signs of life. Chad Myers joins me now. So, these are some amazing numbers, Chad. Eight months in space, 354 million miles traveled, $2.5 billion spent, and it all came down to this short period of time dubbed seven minutes of terror. That's when they tried to land this thing the size of a small car, unlike an area about this big. Nothing like this has ever been attempted, right?

CHAD MYERS, AMS METEOROLOGIST: No. And people ask me all the time, John, why didn't they just use a really big parachute? But they did. They slowed it down from about 1,000 miles an hour to a parachute -- with the parachute, and down to much slower, down to about 30 or so miles per hour. But the martain atmosphere isn't thick enough for the drag to slow it all the way down. You know how the Apollo just kind of use those parachutes and dropped into the ocean. The astronauts just there had plenty of slowdown power with those parachutes, but this rover did not have enough slow-down power.

And you said, the size right there of about a football field. It's a little bit bigger than that. But it is and you'll hear a lot about this. It's called Gale Crater. And that right there, Mount Sharp (ph). This rover is going to run up the mountain and it's seeing some of the other vehicles that have been looking from space are seeing these strata, these layers in the ground here. Kind of like what you see at the Grand Canyon. You see different colors. Well, the different colors think those probably different layers or different times that the atmosphere was there.

This was a very difficult process. It came in at 13,000 miles per hour. And seven minutes later, it had to be down to zero miles per hour. It slowed down with a burn. The burn slowed it down to about 1,000 miles per hour. Then the parachute deployed. It came down for a while. The heat shield had to be released. After the heat shield was released, then this little like backpack little blower guy right here, looks like it is a parachute coming out of here, it flies off. This thing takes off and it lands. It's amazing.

I have pictures of it here of what this thing looks like. Kind of like a sky crane they called it with wires lowering it all the way to the ground. And when it landed on the ground, it was actually on the ground for 14 minutes before we knew it because that's how long the signal took to go from Mars back to Earth. Those were the minutes of terror. That they knew it was on the ground, they just didn't know how many pieces.


BERMAN: Now you mentioned the Gale Crater and Mount Sharp. That is where scientists believe they have the best chance to finding signs of life.


BERMAN: But how will the rover, how will Curiosity go about detecting these signs?

MYERS: Well, there are 10 really great instruments on this. And a couple of instruments have been used before on other rovers, but not like this. There actually is a sensor to sense the oxygen or, in this case, we're looking for methane. Methane coming from living beings or living -- anything biological when it degrades and it starts to go away, it will puts off some methane. So they're looking for that. Is there any kind of methane in the air. Could it be something great there?

And then if there's something like that, they also would be able to dig into the dirt with a hammer drill, pick up the pieces of dirt, put it into a spectrometer and analyze it. I don't have any doubt in my mind, John, that after these instruments are finding things, that we will have found life on Mars. Not maybe living. This could be a billion year old dinosaur bone, but I believe we will definitely, with this rover, in this place, find something.

The reason why they put it in this crater, it's a very deep spot. And if there's ever water, water's going to go to the deepest spot. So this is why they put it there thinking this very well may have been an ancient lake.


BERMAN: So, Chad Myers making a galactic Joe Namath guarantee --


BERMAN: Guaranteeing we will find signs of life on Mars.

MYERS: Guarantee.

BERMAN: Thank you so much for joining us. And I can't wait to see, like you, what we find there.

And, of course, this begs the big galactic question, are we alone? Is there or was there ever life on our neighbor Mars? Maybe one of Jupiter's moons or a far distant galaxy? It really is one of the most profound mysteries that we deal with as humans every day. And that my guest, the theoretical physicist from Arizona State University Lawrence Krauss grapples with frequently, albeit on a much higher level than the rest of us. He's also the author of the best seller, "A Universe From Nothing."

Thanks for joining us via Skype from Australia. You're actually at an observatory now getting pictures of the new Mars rover before NASA scientists -- for NASA scientists who are back in California right now, right?

But what I want to know is this, life on Mars, what is life on Mars look like compared to say life on Earth in your vision?

LAWRENCE KRAUSS, THEORETICAL PHYSICIST (ph): Well, of course, we don't know because we haven't discovered it. But what would be very surprising would be is if it weren't our cousins, in fact. I also -- I don't know whether I'd make a guarantee like your previous guest about life being -- existing on Mars, but I'd be very surprised if we didn't find at least fossil evidence and find it was our cousin. Because what we discovered is that, in fact, no planet is an island. Material goes back and forth between Mars and the Earth all of the time and in -- we can find meteorites on Earth that come from Mars. And during that eight to 10-month voyage, microbes could survive. And so it's quite reasonable to expect that life from one planet polluted the other. And what's really interesting is that the life on earth may have originated on Mars. So martians may be us.

BERMAN: So these are our cousins we're looking at right there, albeit, you know, tiny bacterial cousins. But you think they could find evidence of sort of the connection to Earth?

KRAUSS: Well, I'd be very surprised if they didn't. I mean even that discovery would be amazing because it would imply that our ideas that Mars was hotter and wetter early on and could support life are true. It would mean that life could develop and thrive on some other planet than the Earth, which would be one of the more profound discoveries, as you mentioned, that humans have ever made.

But more exciting would be the possibility if it wasn't our cousins. If it didn't have the same biological basis, the same pairs in DNA as us. That would be amazing because that would mean independent evolution of life on another planet. As we -- as we try and look out at the solar system, we've discovered literally thousands of planets around other stars. We now know that most stars in our galaxy have plants around them. And there are 100 billion stars in our galaxy and over 100 billion galaxies in the observable universe.

And what we really want to know is, are we typical or are we very special? Are we unique or is life ubiquitous everywhere in the universe. And, of course, as we discover another independent genesis on another planet in our solar system, even if it was only microbial life, there won't be dinosaur bones. That I'm pretty certain about. But we might find microbial life. And even -- if we discovered that it was a different form of life with a different genesis, that would tell us basically that we can expect that life is virtually teeming in the universe, then maybe, of course, if it (INAUDIBLE) somewhere else, which would really be the ultimate discovery.

BERMAN: All right, Lawrence Krauss joining us from Australia right now. Excited like every other scientist on the planet today. It's sort of like a scientific Mardi Gras today. Thank you so much for joining us.

KRAUSS: Thanks a lot.

BERMAN: Back here on Earth, NASA is also making news for a new climate change study. It says rising global temperatures are fueling more and more of the extreme weather we're seeing, like the 2010 heat wave in Russia and last year's drought in Texas. And a "Washington Post" opinion piece that accompanied the study, NASA scientist James Hansen writes, "our analysis shows that for the extreme hot weather of the recent past, there is virtually no explanation other than climate change." That, of course, from a NASA scientist.

A Nascar fan is dead and nine more are recovering after lightening strikes outside a race track in Pocono, Pennsylvania. The 85,000 fans were warned to take cover as severe storms moved through the area. The race was stopped on about the 98th lap. That's about halfway through the race.

The record-breaking Michael Phelps says this is his last Olympics, but his teammate, swimmer Ryan Lochte says he has a lot more to give.


RYAN LOCHTE, OLYMPIC GOLD MEDALIST: I mean I always feel like I'm an A student. So I'd give myself an A minus.


BERMAN: Why Lochte says he's going to miss his swim buddy.


BERMAN: At the Olympics today, American gold medal gymnast Gabby Douglas was back in action, this time on the uneven bars. But she didn't perform as well as she has been doing. She finished eighth. Beth Tweddle from Great Britain won the bronze in the event. A Russian gymnast won the gold, and a Chinese, the silver.

Also today, a doping violation has prompted the International Olympic Committee to disqualify American Nicholas Delpopolo from the men's judo event. The committee stripped the 23-year-old of his seventh place finish after he tested positive for a cannabis byproduct.

All right, he's quitting while he's on top of the world. Who are we talking about? It could only be the most decorated Olympian of all time. U.S. swimmer Michael Phelps. Check out what he told our Becky Anderson.


MICHAEL PHELPS, OLYMPIC GOLD MEDALIST: I'm done. Like, I mean I don't know if people really realize -- or like really believe me, but I am actually finished. I'm retired.


PHELPS: Yes. I'm done. No more (ph).


BERMAN: Becky also talked to team -- Phelps' teammate and rival, Ryan Lochte. Let's listen to what he said.


RYAN LOCHTE, OLYMPIC GOLD MEDALIST: If I had to give a grade scale, I mean I always feel like I'm an A student. So I'd give myself an A minus.

ANDERSON: A minus.


ANDERSON: My goodness. It's two golds, two silvers and a bronze. You set your standards very high. You were up against Michael Phelps.

PHELPS: I'm done. Like, I mean I don't know if people really realize -- or like really believe me, but I am actually finished. I'm retired.

ANDERSON: D-o-n-e, done.

PHELPS: Yes. I'm done. Done. No more (ph).


BERMAN: There it is again, done. Just for extra emphasis, done.

A deadly shooting spree takes the lives of six members of a Sikh temple in Wisconsin, but this is not the first time the Sikh community has been targeted.

And, don't forget, you can watch CNN live on your computer. While you're at work, head to


BERMAN: It was a quiet Sunday morning in a Milwaukee suburb, but then at the Sikh temple, a tragedy unfolded.

Deborah Feyerick has the story how it unfolded from the beginning.


DEBORAH FEYERICK, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): The reading of the Sikh holy book was almost over when the shooting started.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: 6-2, I thought I heard shots. Can you confirm that?

FEYERICK: People inside of the temple ran to hide.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: And she kept saying they are out there, they are out there.

FEYERICK: Calls poured into 911.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I need an ambulance. I do not see the shooter anywhere and I am on the -- just come in behind me.

KANGWARDEEP SINGH KALEKA, NEPHEW OF VICTIM: The basically gunman came into the parking lot shooting, shot the people standing out in front, entered the temple and opened fire.

FEYERICK: Community members say the temple president was shot trying to tackle the gunman. A priest and six worshipers among the six dead. Witnesses say the gunman went to the kitchen and may have turned up the gas before exiting.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The gunman tor people doing this went into the kitchen and are trying to blow it up.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Man with a gun in the parking lot, a white T- shirt.

FEYERICK: One of the first police officers to arrive was ambushed while helping a victim.

JOHN EDWARDS, CHIEF, OAK CREEK POLICE: A 20-year veteran was ambushed, shot multiple times.

The officer was shot eight to nine times at close range with a handgun.

FEYERICK: The shooter, then taking aim at another officer who returned fire.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Subject down. Subject down. I need an ambulance.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: (INAUDIBLE). We have one officer shot.

EDWARDS: Our officer did engage that individual, and that individual is deceased.

FEYERICK: SWAT teams and tactical units from around the Oak Creek area converged carefully searching the temple building, not knowing if more shooters were inside.

Please pray for the people inside. There are small kids there that did nothing wrong.

FEYERICK: Police recovered a single handgun belonging to the lone suspect. The wounded were taken to a trauma center. Relatives and friends and many, who had been on their way to pray, waited for words.

Authorities searched the gunman's home, not far from the temple, looking for evidence, looking for a motive, leaving a community wondering why.


BERMAN: Deb Feyerick has been covering the story since the beginning.

And joining me now live is Deb Feyerick.

Deb, the police have given us more details on exactly what unfolded. Did the police fire a warning shot at the suspect in the parking lot?

FEYERICK: What we are learning now is that they did issue commands to the gunman. It appears they either told him to drop the weapon. He opened fire on some of the squad cars, we are learning. Then, ultimately, they shot him. They had no alternative because he was holding a gun, an active shooter. And we are learning more about him. He spent six years in the military and was discharged for misconduct. It means his performance was OK, but the behavior was not. So --


BERMAN: The police were there. They obviously knew that there was going to be trouble. They had the rifles with them when they arrived at the scene.

FEYERICK: Yes, when you arrive at a scene, you use whatever you have in the car. Use whatever you have. And clearly the fact that he was willing to shoot at a police officer, I mean, that is attempted murder. Clearly, there was nothing was stopping him from doing what he wanted to do.

BERMAN: All right, Deb Feyerick, thank you for being here.

Sometimes a tragedy like this can lead to enlightenment. As the horror was unfolding in Wisconsin, social media lit up with questions about the Sikh religion and the hundreds and thousands of followers here in America. The shooting was a horrific act of violence. Fortunately, it is not an isolated incident. The Sikh Coalition has reported hundreds of attacks against its people in its communities September 11, 2011.

Surinder Singh is with the Guru Nanak Mission Society of Atlanta.

Let me ask you this. Why do you believe that the group has been targeted over the last 11 years for the hate crimes?

SURINDER SINGH, GURU NANAK MISSION SOCIETY OF ATLANTA: It is not only the Sikh communities that have been targeted, but the distinct look that we have to give those perpetrators a little bit easier target, because they are not well educated and misunderstood. This isolated incident in my personal opinion, and I don't believe it is an attack against only one community unless we go to the bottom of that one and find out what this perpetrator had in his mind.

BERMAN: Do you think that this is a reflection of some kind of climate in America or do Sikhs face these challenges all over to the world?

SINGH: It is not new to us. We came from India. And we are known over there as nation builders and we have a role over here to play. Let me say one thing here too. Being Americans, we are Americans first, and this is un-American what happened yesterday. We have been fighting over there for the liberty of others just like, for example, in Iraq. And the security of our own home is at stake.

BERMAN: It is an odd question to ask somebody to explain their faith to me in a sound bite, but a lot of people here in the U.S. have not had a lot of experience with Sikhism. So can you give us a basic understanding of the religion?

SINGH: It is a relatively new religion, and the fourth-largest tenets are that we believe in hardworking and sharing with others who are less fortunate and worship the God, the almighty. Those are the basic principles laid out by the founder, Guru Nanak. You just took the name. I belong to a local Guru Wara (ph). Our temple over here is called Guru Nanak Mission Society of Atlanta. We are here to spread his mission. His mission is that we are a community who believe in developing humanity at large, regardless of what you believe or what your religion is or the race or your color or creed is. BERMAN: What is the response -- I know there are several hundred thousand Sikhs in America, 25 million Sikhs worldwide. How big of a response has there been to the tragedy in Wisconsin?

SINGH: All of the community is hurting. Everybody is just taking it as a surprise, that American soil, this kind of an act is a horrific act. But at the same time, we are community who stay calm and we are telling the Kurds (ph) and everybody not to be panicky or reactionary. Let us give everything to the law enforcement authorities so that we can demonstrate, get out of the terror or out of these bad times. We can still come out as a peaceful and hardworking community, which I think should be our goal. We are country building in every way an American dream. We are here in just not here to survive but to succeed. And have some dreams in our life.

BERMAN: Surinder Singh, we hope you achieve those dreams. And our thoughts are with your entire community.

Thank you for joining us.

SINGH: You're welcome.

BERMAN: Moving on to politics, former Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice is going to speak at the upcoming Republican National Convention. Who else is on the list? We'll tell you in just a moment.


BERMAN: Mitt Romney and the Republicans raked in more than $100 million in July. That is the second month in a row they have passed the $100 million mark. President Obama's campaign raised less than the Romney team, doing $75 million.

Let's get the latest on the campaign money war. Shannon Travis joining us live from Washington.

Shannon, this is the third month in a row that the Romney team has outpaced the Obama team. How significant is that, and how worried is the Obama campaign?

SHANNON TRAVIS, CNN POLITICAL CORRESPONDENT: Well, it is significant. First, it comes with bragging rights, to say that you are raising more money than the opponent. But practically speaking, modern-day campaigning requires money. To your question about whether the Obama campaign should be worried, you remember the fundraising letter from last month. The president himself admitted that he'll likely be outraised in the campaign. He wasn't talking about the outside spending groups, the super PACs. He was saying by the Romney campaign itself. To the point about the outside spending groups, the super PACs, they are about to raise a billion to defeat President Obama, groups like Americans for Prosperity and Crossroads GPS, Karl Rove's group. So the president and the election team are watching closely these numbers. They know they have to keep the race very, very close. It is significant and a worry. But they figure as long as they keep the fundraising totals close, John, they'll do OK. BERMAN: The Republican National Committee teasing us a little bit with the speaking schedule for their convention. We are told that Condoleezza Rice will be a speaker at the RNC. Any other speakers confirmed so far?

TRAVIS: Well, a potential clue as to the running mates and how the RNC convention will pan out. We have names here hot off of the presses, John. Condoleezza Rice, new Mexico Governor Susana Martinez, South Carolina Governor Nikki Haley, all mentioned on this speaking list. That is significant because they were three names in the rumor mill as potential Romney V.P.s. They won't be the running mate as we see the list. Other names I want to mention, Mike Huckabee is on the list, Ohio Governor John Kasich, Senator John McCain, Florida Governor Rick Scott. But one other thing to note is the names not on the list or announced yet, like Governor Chris Christie, Marco Rubio, a senator from Florida. Rob Portman, the Ohio Senator, and Tim Pawlenty, the former Minnesota governor, not mentioned on this list. Potentially still in the vetted process as potential running mates.

One last thing I want to draw your attention to, John, some people not mentioned on the list, Newt Gingrich, Rick Santorum and Ron Paul. They're camps that would love to see them having speaking spots -- John?

BERMAN: Shannon Travis, thanks so much.

We also don't know who the keynote speaker will be. That news presumably coming soon.

Thank you, Shannon.

We will take a live at the big board at the New York Stock Exchange. We will head there in a moment to find out why the market is up, and why there could be some choppy days ahead.


BERMAN: U.S. employers added more jobs than expected in July, pushing the Dow up almost 220 points on Friday. Stocks are still trading in positive territory today. But we are hearing warnings that it could be a choppy week ahead.

Alison Kosik is standing by at the New York Stock Exchange.

Alison, what does choppy mean? And what is giving Wall Street pause over what might happen in the next few days?

ALISON KOSIK, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Well, first, John, choppy means that the stocks bounce around for no real obvious reason and they bounce around quickly. As far as the week goes, we kind of are sort of getting into the middle of August and summer, and you know, it used to be historically quiet time here on Wall Street. But those days look to be behind us, especially when you think about what happened last summer with the debt ceiling debacle and the credit rating for the U.S. notched lower. This week, it is a light week for reports that are market movers. But it does not mean that things are going to be calmer here, because when fewer people are trading in the market, it could cause bigger swings for stocks.

And Europe, of course, can always be a wild card. Any unexpected moves there could move the market.

Both the Federal Reserve in the U.S. and the equivalent in Europe, the ECB, did not take any steps towards any stimulus last week. That turns the focus to September. Investors think that's the Fed's last chance to make any stimulus before the presidential election -- John?

BERMAN: Let's talk about the Olympics here, because along with the gold medals, there is gold in the bank. Michael Phelps has made millions in endorsements.

But it looks like a new sheriff in town with an awfully big smile.

KOSIK: Yes, the new sheriff is a young lady, Gymnast Gabby Douglas, who is a mere 16 years old. She has a bright future ahead of her in the endorsement game. IN fact, one marketing expert tells CNN Money that Douglas could pull in $1 million to $3 million leading up to the next Summer Games, leading up to Rio de Janeiro, even if she does not complete. In the advertising world, gymnasts are viewed as having a pretty long shelf life. Mary Lou Retton is on a box of Wheaties this year, almost 30 years after her all-around gold. In the case of Gabby Douglas, Kellogg's beat out General Mills, which makes Wheaties, to put her on its Corn Flakes box. Kellogg's had a leg up since it sponsors the U.S. Olympic Committee and the U.S. gymnastics team -- John?

BERMAN: All right, Alison Kosik at the Exchange, thank you being with us.

Medical news now. The swine flu is back. And now the CDC is putting out a new warning. We'll explain when we come back.


BERMAN: Swine flu is back. That's news you may not want to hear. A new strain is spreading from pigs to people and it's starting to pick up speed. 12 news cases have been reported. The CDC has issued fresh warnings for agricultural fairs organizers. All the new cases are linked to people who attended fairs and had contact with pigs.

It was 67 years ago today the Enola Gay dropped an atomic bomb on Hiroshima with devastating results. CNN spoke with the last surviving member of the crew, when we come back.


BERMAN: Today marked 67 years since the U.S. dropped the atomic bomb on Hiroshima. It killed an estimated 140,000 people. The last surviving member of the Enola Gay, the plane that dropped the bomb, takes us back. (BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)

THEODORE "DUTCH" VAN KIRK, LAST SURVIVING CREW MEMBER OF ENOLA GAY: If you were of that age at that time, you knew you're going to be in the war. I know I didn't want the Army. I knew I didn't want the Navy because that was in the Army. I had just a bit of flying experience. I loved it.

My name is Theodore Van Kirk, and I was a major.

I think I probably flew about 15 missions out of England. Then I got transferred down to North Africa where I completed the rest of '58. If you made 25 missions, you were either the luckiest person alive or the German pilots were lousy shots. In my case, the German pilots were lousy shots.

I was sent down to New Orleans. I got a call from Tibbets. I met Tibbets before that, before I flew the first mission out of England. Those were the best days of my life. He saved my life a couple of times. He says, I'm organizing a new group. He says, I can't tell you what it's about, but if it works, we're either going to end or officially shorten the war. He said, I want you to be my group navigator.

I got orders to report to the Silver Plate Project in Utah. We trained primarily to make the rapid turn and running away from the bomb. That was our primary training.

That was our biggest worry was getting away from the bomb. How do you get away from a bomb? You drop the bomb. The bomb goes this way and you go this way. But you had to make a very rapid turn. Tibbets practice and he could make that turn in less than a minutes. So you're at 30,000 feet now. He's in a 30-60 degree bank, which is a very sharp bank for a B-20 bomber at that altitude.

ANNOUNCER: Three, two, one, now.


VAN KIRK: We knew the time was approaching and everything else because they had test explosion in New Mexico. Then they finally briefed us for the bomb and the mission and everything else. They briefed us that we were going to go out and drop the atomic bomb and everything at that time and go get some sleep. Now how the hell they expected to tell you you're out and drop the first atomic bomb and then go get some sleep is beyond me. Tibits (ph), Ferv (ph) and I were in the same poker game. We obviously didn't sleep.


BERMAN: What a fascinating piece of history.

CNN NEWSROOM continues right now with Alina Cho.