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Battle for Ohio; Debate Over Libya Responsibility; Sports World Goes "Gangnam Style"; Shuttle's Slow Ride to Resting Place; Michael Vick Has a Pet Dog

Aired October 13, 2012 - 07:00   ET

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RANDI KAYE, CNN ANCHOR: Thank you for watching.

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KAYE: Good morning, everyone. I'm Randi Kaye.

VICTOR BLACKWELL, CNN ANCHOR: I'm Victor Blackwell. It's god to have you with us for CNN SATURDAY MORNING.

KAYE: We begin with a shooting in Denver aimed at the Obama campaign headquarters. A single shot into the window. There were people inside the office, but no one was injured.

Earlier we talked with Vida Urbosa from affiliate KUSA about how police are handling the investigation today.

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VIDA URBOSA, KUSA (via telephone): Now, police are telling us, that question that you asked, that they do have a description of a possible vehicle of interest. They're talking about a vehicle only, but they have not released any information to us just yet. We just put a call in again to the public information officer and I haven't heard back.

But detectives tell us that they are reviewing any available footage of the incident and they are pursuing the leads. However, they have not released a vehicle description over or a suspect description or any video at this time.

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KAYE: President Obama, by the way, was nowhere near Denver last night. Instead, he was out to dinner in D.C. with a few select supporters. His dinner guests were actually donors who won the trip and the contest on the president's campaign Website. The president heads to Williamsburg, Virginia, today to do a little debate prep.

BLACKWELL: Mitt Romney heads off for debate prep today. But, first, he and Paul Ryan have got a busy day of campaigning planned. He's spending another day in Ohio, speaking in Lancaster. Romney talked about how proud he was of the vice presidential choice and Ryan's performance at the debate this week.

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MITT ROMNEY (R), PRESIDENTIAL NOMINEE: Gosh, we got to watch this guy debate. And, there was one person on the stage with thoughtfulness who was respectful who was steady and poised. There's one person on that stage you'd want to be with if there were a crisis. It's this man right here.

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BLACKWELL: Today, Romney has stomps planned in Portsmouth and Lebanon, Ohio. Paul Ryan will be in Youngstown.

Ohio is one of the key swing states for both Romney and Obama. Both have spent a lot of time there talking to voters.

KAYE: So, how are the voters receiving all that attention?

CNN political editor Paul Steinhauser joining us now from Washington.

Paul, good morning.

So, what is the story in Ohio?

PAUL STEINHAUSER, CNN POLITICAL EDITOR: And attention is the derived there, Randi. I mean, I know it sounds like a broken record, if people remember what records are. But, yes, Ohio has been getting so much attention.

Eighteen electoral votes. It's not the biggest of the battleground states when it comes to that, Florida has more. But take a look at this. This is by my unofficial count here.

Since the start of the general election, which people pretty much perceived to be early April, look at this -- 16 visits now by Mitt Romney or 16 swings through the state by Romney, 12 by the president, most recently just a couple of days ago. Over $91 million spent on TV ads by the campaigns, the super PACs, and, you know, through about a week ago. And just in the last week, the Obama campaign and the Romney campaign each spend about $2.5 million to put ads up somewhere in Ohio.

So, yes, a lot of attention to this state. And, guess what? The Obama campaign just announced this morning that they have two very high- profile surrogates going back to Ohio next week. Bruce Springsteen and former President Clinton will be campaigning together for President Obama together in Ohio.

So, it just goes to show the stakes in this state, how much is at stake here if you got all these high-profile candidates going there. Plus, all the candidates themselves and all the money on the campaign trail. How much does that influence in the polls? Where do the polls stand right now? Look at this, our CNN poll of polls in Ohio. We took the three polls that were conducted after that first presidential debate and you average them altogether and here's what you get, a very close race in Ohio -- 50 percent of likely voters going for the president, 47 percent for Mitt Romney. That's basically all tied up.

It's close to what we see on the national stage, as well. Here's our CNN poll of polls of national likely voters and, yes, again, basically a dead heat here between the president and between Mitt Romney when you look at that national poll of polls, as well -- Randi, victor.

KAYE: Those are interesting numbers because they have moved a little bit, haven't they?

STEINHAUSER: Ohio has gotten closer. You're right, a little more advantage o advantage for the president but we have seen the polls tighten up. That's why so much is at stake on Tuesday for the second debate.

KAYE: Yes, no question about it.

BLACKWELL: All right. Paul Steinhauser, thank you.

KAYE: Tuesday's vice presidential debate was a real talker -- we all know that. And while the experts and analysts sifted through the facts, what did people at home wonder about.

Well, this is Google's list of the top Internet searches right after the debate, Biden, conflating -- you can look that one -- and malarkey, one of Biden's favorite words. It's how he described some of Paul Ryan's facts.

BLACKWELL: Here's another Google nugget. This is one Just type in the words completely wrong into the images search and what you get are Mitt Romney pictures and quotes over and over, page after page.

Google says it's not intentional. It's just the result of normal search algorithms. Now, Google algorithms -- we'll see what happens.

KAYE: At the vice presidential debate on Thursday, one of the bigger issues was the attack on the U.S. consulate in Benghazi, Libya. The Romney campaign made it a talking point on the campaign trail. They are hammering Vice President Biden over his comment that he said that, quote, "we didn't know about calls for increases security."

Here's California Congressman Darrell Issa on "Real Time with Bill Maher" last night.

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REP. DARRELL ISSA (R), CALIFORNIA: When Vice President Biden says, we didn't know about their need for more security in Libya, he's only talking about the president and vice president because as it turns out, he doesn't hear what his own people say at the State Department and all up and down under sworn testimony. (END VIDEO CLIP)

KAYE: Issa should know the details of the testimony. He's the chairman of the House Overnight Committee that is investigating the Libya tragedy.

But "New York Times" reports that Biden and the president probably did not know about the security requests. They were handled further down the command chain at the State Department level. "The Times" also requests were largely for Tripoli and not actually for Benghazi.

BLACKWELL: Well, now to the West Coast and the final journey for the Space Shuttle Endeavour. The shuttle is moving through the streets today by the supermarkets and the shell station and the McDonald's. They're really amazing pictures. You see, it's here at a gas station nearby.

It has actually been on the move most of the morning. The shuttle is headed to the California Science Center. That will be its permanent home. But it could take until midnight to get there. We'll have much more on Endeavour's final trip throughout the morning.

KAYE: Seeing it pull up to the gas station. If you were in your car filling up and this thing comes barreling in, what would you think?

BLACKWELL: Well, barely like 12 miles per hour. In your rear view mirror, you see this huge thing coming.

KAYE: Yes, talk about traffic, like they don't have a problem with traffic already.

BLACKWELL: Right.

KAYE: Well, we have much more ahead this hour. Here's a look at what's coming up.

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KAYE (voice-over): Playing politics with voter IDs. Both parties fighting it out in battleground states, about who gets to vote and how. All morning, we are putting voter ID laws in focus.

A mystery solved. A missing Florida reporter turns up underground. We'll explain.

ANTHONY BOURDAIN, CHEF: It's going to be bloody.

KAYE: And Anthony Bourdain found himself on the menu when he was roasted in New York City. Wait until you hear what his friends have to say.

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BLACKWELL: To politics now and we're focusing on voter ID laws this morning and the effect it could have on the presidential election. Democrats say that Republican legislatures are on a mission to toughen election laws with a goal of suppressing the Democratic vote.

In Florida, the state legislature, which is controlled by the GOP, decided to cut the Sunday before Election Day as an early voting day. Well, it's a day known as "Souls to the Polls". That's when African- Americans typically leave church to vote.

Here's an excerpt from Joe John's documentary, "Voters in America, Who Counts".

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DENNIS BAXLEY (R), FLORIDA STATE HOUSE: You want your country back? I want mine back. Don't have an election if they don't come, right?

JOE JOHNS, CNN CRIME AND JUSTICE CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): For Dennis Baxley, the GOP primary marks the maiden voyage of the election law he crafted.

BAXLEY: Election is all about turnout. For the primary on Tuesday, we're working right now to get around Saturday morning. This is the grassroots. Precinct walking.

We are going right on the street. You know what the number is, I'll just go house-to-house.

Good morning. I'm Dennis Baxley. Can I give you a little brochure from Mr. Romney?

This is supervisor of elections office of Marion County, Florida, and this is the last early voting day.

JOHNS: It was Baxley who agreed to change the last day of early voting from Sunday to Saturday.

PROF. DANIEL SMITH, UNIVERSITY OF FLORIDA: What the data from 2008 showed quite clearly African-Americans preferred to vote on the Sundays and did so in proportions much greater than their overall numbers.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: On the Sunday prior to Election Day, after church services, people got on buses and they rolled to the supervisor of elections office and they voted.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: We may take 200 or 300 people to vote.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Take your souls to the polls.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: No longer is that day available.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: How does eliminating that day affect voter fraud?

JOHNS (on camera): Why take away the last Sunday?

BAXLEY: Why? It's a scheduling issue. You can still vote on Sunday. It's just a different Sunday. Knock yourself out, load a bus, go vote the Sunday before.

JOHNS: But that Sunday was the big Sunday where so many people went straight from church to the polls.

BAXLEY: Well, I felt like we had too narrow of a window. There was only 24 hours to change hour from early voting format to the general election format.

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BLACKWELL: You can see the entire Joe Johns documentary, "Voters in America: Who Counts," this Sunday at 8:00 p.m. Eastern and Pacific.

Now, Joe Johns asked the question why. But with a tight presidential race on the line, the other big question is what. What will be the impact? The answer will be critical, especially in swing states like Florida where minorities are a key voting bloc.

Critics and activists are concerned. They're concerned that the tough new election laws are really a political tool to suppress voters from turning out. We're talking minority voters who include congregations like Reverend Richard Dunn.

Reverend Dunn is a pastor at the Faith Community Baptist Church. He joins us from near Miami, in Plantation, Florida.

Reverend, thanks for joining us this morning.

And you just heard the state representative explain why he was in favor of eliminating Sunday as the last day of early voting. He says it's a scheduling issue. Do you buy that?

REV. RICHARD DUNN, PASTOR, FAITH COMMUNITY BAPTIST CHURCH: Absolutely, positively, unequivocally not.

BLACKWELL: And tell me why.

DUNN: Well, I mean, I believe he realizes that the African-American church historically has been the mainstay of the African-American community. I'm sure he received the numbers of the amount of ballots that were cast in 2008.

So, I believe it's the diversionary tactic. It's a detrimental tactic. It's even a demonic tactic that's being used to suppress the voter turnout.

BLACKWELL: You call it a demonic tactic. That is very strong.

DUNN: I know it is. And I don't mix my words.

I believe any time you try or anyone tries to take away the very tenet of our democratic country, the right to vote, that's a precious, inalienable right that has been granted that supposedly separates us from many other countries and makes us one of the greatest countries in the world, whenever you take that away from an individual, from a person, regardless of race, color, creed or political party -- it's shameful.

BLACKWELL: OK. So, you say that this is a demonic tactic intentionally to suppress the vote. But supporters of the law, they would say it's just one day less of early voting. You have all the days before that.

Ultimately, what do you think the impact will be? I mean, why not just do it the previous Sunday?

DUNN: Well, I mean, you know, any time you take away anything, you know, when you look at the voting polls across the country, why -- my question would be then, why do we have voting polls at churches, schools, community clubs, senior citizen centers. Why do you have it? Because you want to make voting as convenient as possible. You want to accommodate the voters so that they can, in fact, have the right.

Not only have they done that. They have been purging the rolls. I have three individuals in my church who are ex-felons and they took their names off the rolls. Previously they were able to vote and under the leadership of Governor Scott, we see that this is a diabolical, demonic tactic to suppress voter turnout.

BLACKWELL: And you said now, diabolical, demonic, and there will be some who see a pastor who is now bringing religion into a political conversation when you use comparing these people to demons. What do you say to the people who say that maybe this is not a place that the church should venture into?

I mean, this is a political conversation. You should be more concerned about saving souls and leading a congregation.

DUNN: Well, that's why organizations like PICO and others coined the phrase "Souls to the Polls". What Jesus once said, render unto Caesar what is Caesar's, and render unto God what is God's. We have government ordained by God. If you look at Moses, he was involved in government. If you look at Joseph, he was involved in government.

All throughout the Bible, Jesus was -- I mean, in the Bible you see strong personalities who were involved in government. It is a right.

We must support those things that will provide the quality of life and will provide a standard of living for human beings.

So, any time you suppress that, any time you take away that, it has to be demonic and diabolical.

BLACKWELL: All right. The last question, I want to talk about policy, aside from politics. And the president endorsed gay marriage as a policy. Do you think that will affect the black voter turnout in your congregation and across the country?

DUNN: That's an excellent question. As soon as he made that statement as a pastor, as a student of the Bible, as one who believes in the word of God, we certainly cannot support gay marriages, but we certainly know that the president is the president for all people. He did not, in fact, legislate gay marriages. So, at the end of the day, God has made us free moral agents where an individual can choose whatever they choose. However, there are consequences for all of us when we disobey the word of God. Regardless if it's gay or lesbianism if it's adultery, in the eye of God, sin is sin.

While I don't agree with the president on this issue, I am certainly not going to throw the baby out with the bath.

BLACKWELL: All right. Reverend Richard Dunn, talking to us from Plantation, Florida -- thank you.

DUNN: Thank you.

BLACKWELL: Up next hour, much more on the controversy in Florida. We'll talk with conservative radio talk show host Bernie Thompson to get his take, and we'll ask him what the reverend has to say on the subject. That's coming up at 8:15 a.m. Eastern.

KAYE: It is the popular Korean song and dance that just keeps on spreading, doesn't it? The sports world goes "Gangnam Style".

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KAYE: Talk about smash and grab, police in Leawood, Kansas, are searching for the thieves who drove their cars through the front window of an Apple Store Friday morning. You could see the results here. And believe it or not, this is the second time thieves broke into this particular Apple Store using a car as a battering ram.

After a 2010 burglary, the store added metal bars to its glass store front. Those were damaged in Friday's break-in.

A Florida man got quite a shock this week when he found a giant eyeball on Pompano Beach. Take a look. There it is, right? Pretty gross looking.

Gino Covacci turned over the eye, roughly the size of a softball to police who then sent it on to a lab. The Florida Fish and Wildlife Conservation Commission is working to figure out exactly what kind of creature this eyeball came from. A spokeswoman says it's probably a large fish. Covacci, who found it, thinks it's a squid. The finding should be in next week.

In sports, the season is now over for the Washington Nationals. They ended their first ever post-season appearance with a catastrophic failure. The Nats blew a four-run lead late in the deciding game against the St. Louis Cardinals. The Cards now move on to face the San Francisco giants in the National League Championship Series.

Well, the Nats may be out of the game, but their mascot and fans are showing that they have game, "Gangnam Style".

BLACKWELL: We love this video and we know you know the moves, too. That kind of thing.

KAYE: Is that how it goes, really?

BLACKWELL: You know it. Don't act all brand-new. You know it.

A Korean pop star and his YouTube hit is getting a lot of sporty renditions from tennis court in China to the baseball field right here in Washington, D.C.

Here's CNN's Mark McKay.

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MARK MCKAY, CNN CORRESPONDENT: By now you've watched it, sang the song or even done the dance.

PARK JAE-SANG, KOREAN POP STAR: The style is noble at daytime and crazy at night. That's Gangnam Style.

MCKAY: The music video by South Korean pop star Psy has become a worldwide hit. It went viral on YouTube with 400 million views. Now the song and dance are making their way into the world of sports.

Last week, tennis star Novak Djokovic busted a move with some fans in Beijing to celebrate his China Open win.

Baseball fans in the U.S. had a good laugh as the Washington Nationals team mascots strutted their stuff before the president's race. The video was among the most viewed clips ever on a president race Website.

Uruguayan hit man Edison Cavani jumped on the "Gangnam Style" bandwagon after scoring against Parma.

And then there's the Oregon duck pumping up the school spirit for the University of Oregon with his version of the song. The duck is a hit on YouTube, too, with more than 5 million views.

But while everyone knows his song, the Korean pop star says he's still trying to get people to remember his name.

JAE-SANG: The video is much more popular. So, if people say, like, hey, I'm Psy. Psy? What is Psy? And then "Gangnam Style"? YouTube? Video? Oh.! So, things go like this.

MCKAY: Psy is now working with Justin Bieber's producer on his next big hit. In the meantime, sports players, fans and mascots are dancing to the "Gangnam Style" anthem.

Mark McKay, CNN, Atlanta.

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KAYE: I love it.

BLACKWELL: I do, too.

KAYE: I don't think I could do it. BLACKWELL: You can do it. I've seen a few smooth moves from you. I know you can do it.

KAYE: Walking through the newsroom, is that how I go through the newsroom.

BLACKWELL: There's Randi, again.

KAYE: Yes, shuffling through.

BLACKWELL: I love this, although I think in a few years, it's going to go the way of the "Macarena".

KAYE: We still remember it.

BLACKWELL: Yes, but you will not find anybody doing. It's not of the club anymore.

KAYE: No, it's not so cool any more. This is cool.

BLACKWELL: Yes, it is. I like the wardrobe. I have to get one of those.

KAYE: I love that turquoise leather vest he had on.

BLACKWELL: Except for that. See, that was the one thing --

KAYE: That was hot.

BLACKWELL: Yes, hot. We're sitting here in Atlanta, if I put on a leather vest zipped up to here. Drips.

KAYE: Yes.

BLACKWELL: All right. Space Shuttle Endeavour is on its final journey and this one is through the streets, the streets of Los Angeles.

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KAYE: The housing market is showing signs of recovery. Foreclosures are down and mortgage rates near record lows. Take a look.

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KAYE: Bottom of the hour now. Welcome back, everyone. I'm Randi Kaye.

BLACKWELL: I'm Victor Blackwell. Thanks for starting your morning with us.

Here are five stories we're watching this morning.

KAYE: Police are investigating a frightening incident at an Obama campaign office in Denver. Authorities say a shot was fired at the office shattering a window. There were people in the building, but, fortunately, no one was injured. They don't have a description of the suspect, but they do have a possible vehicle of interest. Pakistani police say they have made more arrests in a shocking attack on a 14-year-old activist, 38 people are now in custody. Gunman stopped Malala Yousufzai school van and shot her. She is clinging to life on a hospital ventilator.

The Taliban said it targeted her because she spoke out about wanting an education. Students have been holding vigils across the country for her.

And number three, members of the famed U.S. Postal Services Tour de France team took banned performance-enhancing drugs to, quote, "be a good teammate for Lance Armstrong." That's what Armstrong's former teammate Tyler Hamilton told CNN. A team masseuse Emma O'Reilly says she helped transport banned steroids. The two testified to the U.S. Anti-Doping Agency, which says it has overwhelming evidence that Armstrong was the ringleader of his team's doping program. Armstrong's lawyer calls the report as a government-funded witch hunt.

And number four, the death toll climbs to 14 in the fungal meningitis outbreak as the CDC says now 185 cases of the non-contagious illness in a dozen states. Meanwhile, a Minnesota woman has filed what appears to be the first lawsuit in the outbreak, claiming that she suffered bodily harm and emotional distress after being injected with a contaminated steroid. Some 14,000 people may have received those injections.

And number five: New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg's ban on large, sugary drinks may be in a supersized legal battle. Soft drink makers and restaurant group are suing to stop the ban from taking effect in March. They cited technicalities, saying only the city council has the power to impose such a ban. They also argue that the law infringes on personal freedom and unfairly targets certain businesses.

BLACKWELL: Well, look who has joined the notorious Los Angeles commute. The Space Shuttle Endeavour. It's being wheeled through the city, through the streets there to its final home, the California Science Center.

The earthbound trek started yesterday. It's expected to take until about midnight. After all, it's only going about two miles an hour.

CNN's John Zarrella is following its last big mission.

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JOHN ZARRELLA, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): The folks at the California Science Center where the Space Shuttle Endeavour will make its final home don't want to call this a once in a lifetime experience. They like to call it a once experience. They don't think anything like this will ever happen again and they're probably right.

Early this morning, the Space Shuttle Endeavour making its final trip. They call it mission 26. It flew 25 times in space and this will be its 26th mission and it left Los Angeles International Airport. It's gone about a mile and a half so far and pulled in here to a parking lot because they wanted to move it out of the airport before rush hour started and then after rush hour ends and later in the day, they will continue to move it on to its next leg.

But right now, it is sitting here and it's a tremendous opportunity for folks from Los Angeles to come up to it, get close behind these barriers and take pictures of the shuttle. They've got friends taking pictures of them and they've got their children taking pictures of.

So, it's been an opportunity that is, as the folks at the California Science Center like to say, a once experience.

Endeavour flew 123 million miles in space, flew at 17,000 miles an hour as it orbited the Earth. On this journey, it's going to go a total of 12 miles and move, when it does move, at about 2 miles an hour. Certainly, one of the shortest and slowest trips Endeavour has ever made but one of the most fascinating.

John Zarrella, reporting from Los Angeles.

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KAYE: What do facial expressions, posture and even sips of water tell us about political candidates? A body language expert walks us through this week's big debate.

Plus, the chefs step out of the kitchen, but they don't turn down the heat. We'll tell you about the roast of Anthony Bourdain.

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KAYE: Good morning, New York City.

There is the lovely Lady Liberty hanging out in New York harbor. Lovely shot. It looks like it is going to be a great day.

Thank you for starting your day with us.

BLACKWELL: Voters, pundits and the media might have poured over every word the candidate said in this week's vice presidential debate. But Gary Tuchman took a different look at things with body language expert Amy Cuddy to see how posture and smiles, even sips of water played a role. Check this out.

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GARY TUCHMAN, CNN CORRESPONDENT: First of all, let's talk about the handshaking. This is important to you, right?

AMY CUDDY, BODY LANGUAGE EXPERT: Yes.

TUCHMAN: What do we see here?

CUDDY: Ryan is going up with his hand up a little bit farther and it's open and it's raised.

TUCHMAN: What does that tell you that his hand is raised?

CUDDY: He's trying to show you that he's both strong and open. He's ready for this.

TUCHMAN: What is Biden showing us?

CUDDY: Biden is showing us that he's not scared. He doesn't need to come in like an alpha because he already feels like he is an alpha.

TUCHMAN: One thing we saw during this debate, each candidate gets water, I assume it's water and not vodka or gin. We saw the congressman drinking a lot of water. This is just time after time when we saw him picking up the glass and drinking water and Biden, on the other hand, was not so thirsty.

CUDDY: I can empathize because I've been in this situation. It makes me thirsty watching it. But he's nervous. I mean, this is a tell tale sign of nerves.

TUCHMAN: I mean, it's not just mean that he's thirsty? And try to make his --

CUDDY: Well, he's thirsty because he's nervous. When you're nervous your mouth becomes dry and that's what's happening. So, he's nervous.

What I thought was interesting, it is actually the first thing he did when he sat down. So, he was back stage, you know, 90 seconds earlier and, yet, still he had to come out and take a sip of water as soon as he sat down.

TUCHMAN: We saw Congressman Ryan pick up that glass a lot. What we saw of the vice president of the United States laughing, smiling. Ryan is talking -- laughing, smiling and these are different instances in the laughing, smiling, shaking his head.

What does this tell you that Joe Biden was doing?

CUDDY: Well, different people are going to interpret this differently. Certainly, it comes across as dismissive. Joe Biden has some of the most authentic non-verbals. He comes across as very real. Almost to -- I mean, it's both a blessing and a curse.

TUCHMAN: All the non-verbals you're talking about, the significant is what he's doing here with his hands. What is this all about?

CUDDY: This is interesting because he's smiling, but what he's doing with his hands where he's pulling them up close to his face and actually touching his face is something that you do when you're feeling a little bit threatened and you're protecting yourself.

TUCHMAN: You're telling me, Amy, Paul Ryan raises his eyebrows a lot, what is the significance of that? And tell me what you mean where --

CUDDY: See, his eyebrows are raised and his brow is furrowed and his eyes are wide and all of that indicates surprise. This is the facial expression that is universally associated with surprise across culture. The problem is that when you overuse it, it is as if you're writing an e-mail in all caps. TUCHMAN: Now, we're talking about he looked nervous and anxious. Here, though, you think this is significant because he doesn't look nervous and anxious. What does he look like here?

CUDDY: I think he looks concerned and empathic. His eyes are soft and he has a sort of puppy dog look, the way his eyebrows are shaped and the way his eyes are shaped.

TUCHMAN: Do you think it will serve him well and Joe Biden well for that matter if they look like this more often?

CUDDY: I don't know if Joe Biden can look like this.

TUCHMAN: Would it serve him well to look more --

CUDDY: Yes, I do. I think this is where he demonstrates his warmth and his ability to connect.

TUCHMAN: What was interesting about the debate is Paul Ryan didn't seem to get angry. Joe Biden did. Let's listen for a second.

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JOE BIDEN, VICE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: We did not pull them out.

REP. PAUL RYAN (R-WI), VICE PRESIDENTIAL NOMINEE: The calendar works the same every year.

BIDEN: It does work the same every year.

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CUDDY: The eyebrows come together and the eyes narrow and that is classic anger.

TUCHMAN: So, in their closing statements both candidates, you think, were very interesting.

CUDDY: Yes.

TUCHMAN: Let's watch Joe Biden's expressions during his close. He's looking down. He's not looking at the camera. He's not smiling.

CUDDY: It looks genuine and he softened it. I mean, he's been up here for most of the debate and now he's taken the energy level down here and then I think this is really interesting.

TUCHMAN: Like the Pledge of Allegiance.

CUDDY: He put his hands on his heart and that's sort of I feel you. That's a way of saying I feel you, I'm with you.

TUCHMAN: Now, Paul Ryan's close was much different than Joe Biden's tell me how. CUDDY: This seems more scripted than he was for the rest of the debate. What you see, you know, he's looking right into the camera. You, again, though, see the eyebrows raised and you see the furrowed brow. I think he's showing surprise when it's probably not the right emotion to be showing.

TUCHMAN: Now, it's time to sum it up. Tell us what Joe Biden did well and what he did poorly.

CUDDY: So, Joe Biden needed to come on strong, which he did. He was aggressive and didn't let himself get walked all over but sometimes he got too aggressive. He also -- dismissive smiles worked well in some cases and in other cases they were over the top and seemed condescending and flippant.

TUCHMAN: Paul Ryan, what did he do well, what poorly?

CUDDY: So, Paul Ryan I think was very composed. I think he came across as composed without being stiff. He was a novice. Clearly he was nervous and we saw some signs of that, but he kept it together. I thought he was very professional and respectful.

TUCHMAN: All in all, more interesting debate than last week?

CUDDY: Much more interesting. Much more entertaining to watch.

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BLACKWELL: So, it's one and done for the number twos, but don't forget to mark your calendars. You can watch the second presidential debate live right here on CNN this Tuesday at 7:00 p.m. Eastern, moderated by our very own Candy Crowley.

KAYE: Well, have you heard this that Michael Vick now has a pet dog. Yes, that is right. The NFL quarterback who spent time in prison for bankrolling that deadly ring once again a pet owner.

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KAYE: Welcome back.

We've been talking a little bit this morning about this controversial Michael Vick news. Have you heard this that the Philadelphia Eagles quarterback has released a statement confirming that now he owns a dog? Yes, a pet dog.

But if you remember, the 32-year-old recently spent 18 months in federal prison for bankrolling a dog fighting ring where Vick and others hanged, drowned and beat dogs to death.

BLACKWELL: Well, here is what Vick said in a statement on Thursday. He said, "I understand the strong emotions by some people about my family's decision to care for a pet. As a father, it is important to make sure my children develop a healthy relationship with animals."

KAYE: You know, this is really, I know it's getting a lot of attention and people are talking about it, but it's a tough call, because I'm an animal lover. I'm certainly a dog lover.

BLACKWELL: Yes.

KAYE: And I think it's great that he has a dog, possibly saving a life from a Humane Society somewhere and teaching his kids not to make the same mistakes he did. But it does make you wonder how he goes from what he had done to this, and how risky that is.

BLACKWELL: I think with his history, that dog will be cared for and watched after by every neighbor in the block, like, hey, Mike, how is the dog? Like over the fencing, all right. He's good.

KAYE: (INAUDIBLE)

BLACKWELL: Right. And he has a relationship with PETA now. And I think that because of his history, people are going to be watching closely.

KAYE: And he had actually been barred from owning a dog during his probation and even the Humane Society president now, he says he's all for it now. He says he's worked with Vick and the group and public outreach effort and that it would be wrong to close the door on him to ever owning a pet.

So, I'm hoping that this dog will be really spoiled and have every dog toy around.

BLACKWELL: Everyone will be kind of looking like, dog's good. All right.

KAYE: A good lesson, though, for the kids, after what he has been through, for sure.

BLACKWELL: Certainly.

KAYE: Well, moving on now out of the kitchen and into the fire. Some of the most famous chefs in America sharpen their knives to get back at Anthony Bourdain, not literally, of course. The celebrity chef was roasted on Thursday night in New York.

And Kat Kinsman, the managing editor of CNN's fabulous Eatocracy Website had the honor of attending.

Kat, good morning. I understand it got pretty vicious.

KATE KINSMAN, MANAGING EDITOR, CNN EATOCRACY WEBSITE: Oh, my, my ears are still burning from that. I would tell you what they said, but CNN would go off the air immediately.

So, our son to be colleague Anthony Bourdain is not a shrinking violent, and he said a lot of things about a lot of people over the years. And that night, people like Rachael Ray, Guy Fieri, Mario Batali, and comedians like Artie Lange, Sarah Silverman, had a chance to talk back to the man while he just had to sit there and take it.

KAYE: Yes, I know. He and Rachael Ray have had a quite ongoing little feud. So, I can only imagine what she must have to say to him. KINSMAN: She kept it classy.

KAYE: Oh, she did. OK, well, that's good. I would expect nothing less.

But it wasn't all verbal barbs, right? I mean, this was actually something for a good cause.

KINSMAN: You know what? Chefs are some of the generous people in the world? They fed people. They gave their time and their resources.

And this is part of the New York City Wine and Food Festival. And over the course of the weekend, they're looking to raise, you know, hundreds of thousands of dollars for Share Our Strength, No Kid Hungry, which does exactly -- it's an organization that does exactly that. And they make sure that kids have school breakfast, school lunch, and that they have the food they need to eat throughout the day.

KAYE: That is a great group. Do you have a favorite moment, a one clean moment you could possibly share with us of the night?

KINSMAN: Yes, it was so subtle. But whoever was doing the music had a great sense of humor and when Guy Fieri took that dais, the song "Devil's Haircut" by Beck came on.

KAYE: That is great.

KINSMAN: Oh, fantastic. Chef Michael White of the Marea Group just knocked it out of the park and then afterwards, the big day ice truck pulled up in the parking lot.

KAYE: Oh, boy.

All right. Well, I'm glad you had fun. Kat Kinsman, thank you so much for sharing some of that with us, sharing what you could at least.

KINSMAN: Thanks for having me.

BLACKWELL: All right. Do you recognize this guy? Let's take a look at the photo. Yes, that's Paul Ryan, so, why are these workout pictures getting such big laughs? We'll tell you why.

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JIMMY FALLON, COMEDIAN: This is big. Today, "TIME" magazine published a bunch of pictures of Paul Ryan working out. Have you guys seen these? Take a look at this one. Yes. Gym tan/Romney right there.

Look at this. This is one that really got me. I like this one. The next vice president of the United States. That looks like Screech from "Saved by the Bell," right? The backwards hat.

(END VIDEO CLIP) KAYE: Yes, not a flattering assessment from Jimmy Fallon there. But, come on, a lot of the people look at the pictures and they think they are cheesy.

BLACKWELL: Yes. A lot of people think they're cheesy. And you know, it could be worse, because when you hear never before seen pictures of the vice presidential candidate, at least he is fully dressed, because it could be different.

KAYE: That is certainly true.

But the question is: are they harmless fun? Well, we are trying to find out and Jeanne Moos got the reaction to those glamour shots for us.

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JEANNE MOOS, CNN NATIONAL CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Does this picture say Mr. Vice President to you?

(on camera): This is Paul Ryan, the Republican --

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Oh!

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Is that him?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: No, no, that is worse. That is like, oh, no.

MOOS (voice-over): Oh, yes, and the photos of Paul Ryan working out that came out in "TIME" magazine have plenty of fans tweeting, too. "And just like that, panties drop." "And the Internet melts."

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Looks fine.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: The knees are a little bony.

MOOS: Noted one poster, Big Bird called, he wants his legs back.

"Paul Ryan is the bro-est bro to run for V.P."

"Paul Ryan is definitely channeling his inner Marky Mark."

Just as Marky Mark pumped iron, so did Paul Ryan at a photo shoot almost a year ago when the fitness buff congressman was a runner up for "TIME's" Person of the Year.

Some say by releasing the old photos around the time of the vice presidential debate, the editors of "TIME" wished to make him look trivial, young, unserious.

(on camera): Maybe it's the backwards baseball cap, but when we took the photos out to the street.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I have no clue who that is?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Not at all. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I have to say, no.

MOOS (voice-over): Two-thirds of the people we asked didn't recognize him.

(on camera): Who is that guy?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: That's Mr. Schuster, Matthew Morrison.

MOOS (voice-over): No, not the glee instructor from "Glee."

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Look like (INAUDIBLE).

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Jeff somebody. He's got a new talk show.

MOOS: No, not Jeff Probst.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I think that's the vice president, soon to be.

MOOS: The V.P. candidate spokesman said this about the photos. "Paul Ryan takes his health seriously. Clearly, judging by these silly pictures, he does not take himself too seriously."

Neither did readers on BuzzFeed. They put him in with the Village People, with the cast of "Jersey Shore". They made him flex and wink like a previous V.P. candidate.

Some wondered when are the Joe Biden workout photos coming. The best we could do is to drag out that famous photoshopped job done by "The Onion" shirtless Joe Biden washing his Trans-Am in the White House driveway. Shirtless Joe, meet backward cap Paul Ryan.

(on camera): This is the vice president of the United States.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Oh, it is.

MOOS (voice-over): Jenny Moos --

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I think that's a great look for him.

MOOS: -- CNN --

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: He is a regular Joe blow.

MOOS: -- New York.

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KAYE: You got to love that wink, you know? But I am sure he is not thrilled about it. His muscles do look good.

BLACKWELL: Oh, he's got some guns.

KAYE: Yes, eh does have some guns there. But the chicken legs comment. He can't be happy about that.

BLACKWELL: Here is the photo about it, but everything is cool except for the facial expression. If he had grrr'd or something.

KAYE: Yes.

BLACKWELL: Yes.

KAYE: He's got work on that.

BLACKWELL: Maybe a different background because he's just holding the weight in the studio. It's like one of the '80s promos for a sitcom photos.

KAYE: Yes, I guess so, you know, he was convinced, if you got --

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BLACKWELL: Yes, he's got the guns.

KAYE: He's exploiting it. That's for sure.

BLACKWELL: All right. Thanks for starting your morning with us.

KAYE: We've got much more ahead on CNN SATURDAY MORNING which starts right now.

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