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Barack Obama To Be First U.S. President To Visit Myanmar, Syrian Fighting On Border Spills Over Into Turkey; Profile Of Biocon Founder Kiran Mazumdar-Shaw; Roger Federer Books Trip To World Tour Semis; SEAL Team Members Reprimanded For Working With Video Game Makers

Aired November 9, 2012 - 08:00   ET


KRISTIE LU STOUT, HOST: I'm Kristie Lu Stout in Hong Kong. And welcome to NEWS STREAM where news and technology meet.

A historic visit: Barack Obama is set to become the first U.S. President to visit Myanmar. A look at why his trip is so important for the region.

Also ahead, changes in China in politics and technology. How the nation's leadership transition is playing out in the age of social media.

And an exclusive interview with Christiano Ronaldo. The football superstar opens up about Real Madrid, his image and what he thinks of Lionel Messi.

Now fresh off his reelection victory, U.S. President Barack Obama is no doubt facing a number of urgent domestic priorities, but the White House has announced that Mr. Obama will make time for a historic visit to Myanmar later this month.

Now it will be the first time a sitting U.S. president has visited Myanmar. And the trip will include a meeting with President Thein Sein and Nobel Laureate Aung San Suu Kyi whom Mr. Obama met in Washington in September.

Now Myanmar has launched a series of political and economic reforms to shed its status as an international pariah. And still there is suspicion about how genuine the reforms are, the country is still wracked by ethnic violence in the west.

And just hours from now, President Obama is expected to speak at the White House about the U.S. economy and perhaps other priorities for his second term in office.

Now CNN's Jessica Yellin looks at what they are likely to be.


JESSICA YELLIN (voice-over): While the details may be sparse, President Obama did outline a second term agenda. The first big challenge, deficit reduction

BARACK OBAMA, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: My plan will cut the deficit by $4 trillion over the next 10 years. I'm going to cut out spending that we don't need. We have already cut $1 trillion.

YELLIN: Specifically, he proposed filling the nation's coffers by reforming Medicare and Medicaid and changing personal income tax rates when the Bush tax cuts expire at year's end.

OBAMA: I'm going to lower taxes for middle class folks. Let's also make sure the wealthiest households pay a little bit more.

YELLIN: The White House has pledged to veto any bill that extends the current Bush tax rates for families making $250,000 a year or more. The president also hopes to accomplish corporate tax reform in his second term. One part of that:

OBAMA: I want to reward small businesses and manufacturers who are creating jobs right here in the United States of America.

YELLIN: The election result could only strengthen the president's resolve to accomplish the next item, immigration reform. He told "Rolling Stone" magazine if he won reelection, the GOP would come on board because they will start recognizing that alienating the fastest growing segment of our society is probably not good politics for them.

He won 71 percent of the Latino vote Tuesday. Senior Democrats tell CNN he's likely to push for comprehensive immigration reform.

The overall message Democrats take from the election?

DAVID AXELROD, SENIOR OBAMA CAMPAIGN STRATEGIST: I think people expect everyone to live up to their responsibilities. And one thing that is clear as I have moved around the country with the president is they're hungry for that kind of cooperation. I hope that coming out of this election people will come with a renewed sense of cooperation because it will take that to solve problems.

YELLIN: One of President Obama's first moves after reelection was to call House Speaker John Boehner, his chief negotiating partner on the fiscal cliff. According to sources, the call was courteous, short, and according to one person they discussed the need to speak carefully publicly to leave room for them to negotiate privately to reach a deal and avoid that fiscal cliff.

Yessica Yellin, CNN, the White House.


LU STOUT: Now President Obama got a little emotional as he thanked the people who worked so hard to get him reelected. Now he visited his campaign headquarters in Chicago on Wednesday telling staffers how proud he is of them.


OBAMA: I felt that the work that I had done in running for office had come full circle, because what you guys done (inaudible) the work that I'm doing is approved. And I'm really proud of that. I'm really proud of all of you. And...


LU STOUT: The U.S. President shedding a tear there.

Now the Obama campaign has posted that video on its official YouTube page.

Now turning now to new developments in Syria and fierce fighting in one border town has prompted a huge exodus. Now a Turkish foreign ministry official says 8,000 Syrians have sought refuge in Turkey in just the past 24 hours. Now Turkey is already struggling to deal with more than 100,000 Syrian refugees who have arrived since the conflict began.

Let's get the very latest now from Turkey. Ivan Watson joins me now from CNN Istanbul. And Ivan, this is just a staggering influx of very, very desperate people. Tell us more about what they were fleeing from and how they're being looked after and treated now?

IVAN WATSON, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Kristie, this is another example of how the Syrian conflict is spilling across borders. Most of what we're seeing over the last 24 hours is centered around a Syrian border town called Ras al-Ain, which is right up against the border, across the border from a Turkish border town called Jalan Pinar (ph). And there has been fierce fighting there since early Thursday morning between rebels trying to capture this strategic border town from Syrian government forces.

Now the Turkish foreign ministry says that in the ensuing battle of more than 8,000 Syrians have fled across the border to escape the fighting in Ras al-Ain to the Turkish side, including more than 71 wounded Syrians of whom two died subsequently of their wounds.

The Turkish foreign ministry also saying seven Turkish civilians were wounded and two were still being treated in the hospital. It's not entirely clear yet, we haven't got an answer of how the Turks were injured. We do know, Kristie, that the Turkish border town was forced to close its schools yesterday to protect children from the battle that was raging just across the border.

We've seen videos that the rebels have put forward of them firing rockets at what they say were suspected Syrian government positions in Ras al-Ain. We know that rockets are not terribly well targeted. They're not very accurate when they're fired like this, so you can just imagine that chaos that was taking place there.

Syrian rebels that we are talking to claim they captured the last Syrian regime position in Ras al-Ain within the last couple of hours. And they have uploaded video of at least 20 men, some of them in government uniforms that they claim were government soldiers captured in this battle - Kristie.

LU STOUT: Looking at video of the chaos there. And that's what these 8,000 Syrians have been fleeing, just in the last 24 hours, as they seek refuge where you are in Turkey.

And Ivan, the United Nations has warned that Turkey is, in its words, stretched to the limit with Syrian refugees. So how is Turkey handling this crisis? And will they get assistance?

WATSON: It's definitely under pressure, Kristie. I just had a meeting with a European Union ambassador to Turkey who says that there are an estimated 50,000 to 70,000 Syrians not living in camps in Turkey, another 120,000 Syrians living in camps. And the fears are that number could double to 250,000 perhaps as the conflict intensifies.

Turkey is being stretched to the limit on this. It's an enormous drain on Turkey's resources. However, this European diplomat telling me additionally that Europe, for example, cannot really give aid to help these refugees because of the system that Turkey has created where Turkey runs the refugee camps, and according to the European Union it has to give money to international non-governmental organizations, groups like the UN, to distribute aid money to the refugees. And since the UN doesn't run these camps, since those aid organizations aren't given free and easy access to them, the EU can not give money directly to the refugees in Turkey. It's forced to give aid money to the enormous refugee populations in Lebanon and in Jordan and in Syria itself through international organizations.

So that's just one example of the bureaucratic challenges for dealing with this mass of humanity is such desperate conditions - Kristie.

LU STOUT: Ivan Watson reporting for us. Thank you very much for that report, Ivan there.

Now you're watching NEWS STREAM. And coming up next, we're reporting on China. And it is in the midst of a once in a decade leadership transition. We're getting a hint of what the next 10 years could bring. We'll bring you live analysis on that.

Now also ahead, find out why a video game is getting some Navy SEALs in hot water with the U.S. military.

And he is one of football's biggest stars. Now Christiano Ronaldo is talking exclusively to Pedro Pinto. That's ahead.


LU STOUT: Welcome back.

Now China's top Communist Party officials are in the process of passing the torch to the next generation of leaders. And the week long National Congress is also time for the party to evaluate its accomplishments and to set a new agenda.

Now these are phrases from President Hu Jintao's state of the party report. And they suggest that some of the party's key goals will remain largely the same.

Now the words scientific view of development, it's a catch phrase from Mr. Hu's economic policies. And he used it frequently.

Now another one, socialism with Chinese characteristics.

And when it comes to political reform, Mr. Hu says we will never copy a western political system.

Now the presidents' comments on combating corruption have received a lot of attention. And the stark warning it was somewhat unexpected, but likely unavoidable in the wake of the Bo Xilai scandal.

Now much of the party congress takes place behind closed doors and as proceeded by months of back room bargaining.

I'm joined now by author Richard McGregor in Washingotn. He wrote "The Party: The Secret World of China's Communist Rulers" and he joins us live.

Richard, good to see you.

Now Hu Jintao, let's talk about that grim warning he made yesterday about corruption. The survival of the party is at stake of the nation, he said, but can the Communist Party even fight corruption? Can the party be its own watchdog and investigate itself?

RICHARD MCGREGOR, AUTHOR: Look, I'm sorry to say this, Kristie, but it's kind of there's no news there. It's Groundhog Day for the Communist Party. If you look at past statements by Hu Jintao and certainly Jiang Zemin before him, they always say this, that corruption is a threat to the existence to the party, and they're right, and that is because as you say one of the cardinal rules of the Communist Party is that there should be no independent centers of power, thus there's no independent watchdog, or corruption watchdog, thus, you know, corruption will remain institutionalized in China.

LU STOUT: And I also want to ask you in addition to corruption, the link also between business and politics in China. We know that blockbuster report from The New York Times, David Barbosa reporting that the family Wen Jiaobao, they have assets were some $2.7 billion. Can the party even draw a line between commerce and itself?

MCGREGOR: Well, this is quite remarkable. Over the year we've seen various western news organizations almost now going through members of the politburo one by one and toting up their family wealth. And that would, you know, tell you in answer to your question that there's no line between the - you know, powerful members of the communist party at the top and the ability of their family members to exploit those privileges to get the inside track, if you like, on business opportunities in China.

And I think, you know, you can get away with that when you're growing at 10 percent, 12 percent and the economy is lifting the lives of most people, but once growth of the economy starts to plateau, then that kind of corruption I think becomes deeply corrosive.

LU STOUT: Because that's when the people get even more critical?

MCGREGOR: That's right. I mean, if you look in Chinese cities these days, you know, urban Chinese have been big winners from Chinese economic development over the past 30 and particular 20 years. And I think, you know, by and large, we don't have an election to prove it, but I think the Communist Party has a lot of legitimacy, because China has come on in leaps and bounds.

But once that sort of mega, you know, high speed growth, you know - you won't have that forever. You're already seeing it leveling off in places like Shanghai and southern China in Guangzhou and you know that will sort of drain legitimacy from the party. And that, I think, is very dangerous for the political system.

LU STOUT: I also want to ask you about Jiang Zemin, who is living large at the party congress this week, even though he left office a decade ago. What does his lingering influence say about the Communist Party and the strength of the party?

MCGREGOR: Yes, it's quite fascinating to see him have such a prominent rule, because of course last year there were lots of rumors, I think well founded, about his health. But now he's back not just behind the scenes, but right out in front of the cameras. And I think it tells you a lot about the sort of consensus system we've got in the party, you know, Hu Jintao is really first amongst equals. He requires the consent. And then negotiation with other senior elders to get his way. And I think there's no reason to think that the same kind of, you know, deal making with his colleagues (inaudible) Hu's successor Xi Jinping.

LU STOUT: And your thoughts about Xi Jinping. Will he be a strong leader? Will he be a general secretary under the shadow of his colleagues and of Jiang Zemin?

MCGREGOR: Well, we have to give him time. I mean, as a political personality I think he's - you know, he's got lots more personality than Hu Jintao. He will be a much better ambassador for China. But we should not expect radical change, because that's simply not the nature of the system. He has to gain consensus for any changes he wants to put in place. That will take perhaps years.

And we also shouldn't forget that he's captive of circumstances like politicians around the world. He can't snap his fingers and change China's external circumstances. So we really don't know what kind of leader he'll be yet.

LU STOUT: Xi Jinping, a leader captive to his circumstances.

Richard McGregor, author of "The Party," thank you very much indeed for joining us.

MCGREGOR: Thank you.

LU STOUT: Now let's take a look at a major issue facing the Communist Party. Now this is Sina Weibo, it's a microblogging site, hundreds of millions of users in China. But it is more than just the Chinese answer to Twitter, it's also proving to be a vital tool for affecting popular change.

Now as part of a new program on CNN On China, I spoke with a prominent Chinese blogger Hung Huang, about the Internet's impact.


HUNG HUANG, CHINESE BLOGGER: We are at a political and historical juncture where the party has to seriously consider its role in China and how to move forward, because with the advance of technology and internet, I think the people know a lot more about the party than actually it was willing to let people know. And the party know through internet and Weibo a lot more about how the people feel about the party than it probably wants to know.


LU STOUT: Hung Huang there.

Now here are a few watershed moments on Weibo. Take the Beijing floods earlier this year. Now outrage at the government response to the disaster put massive pressure on authorities to take action. Also this last year, in the southwestern city of (inaudible), officials gave into public pressure over plans to build a billion dollar chemical plant. Now Weibo users spread news about protests and expose police violence against demonstrators contributing to a sense of national outrage.

Now Weibo also broke the story about two bullet trains colliding last year. And it became the go-to source for information that was not being provided officially.

And when the blind activist Cheng Guangcheng escaped house arrest to take refuge at the U.S. embassy in Beijing, Weibo users helped put pressure on China and the U.S. to seek a diplomatic solution.

You can find complete coverage of China's political transition on our website, just go to Among other things, we have a photo gallery at the party congress so far.

Up next, he is one of the biggest football stars in the world, perhaps as well known for his image off the pitch as he is for his performance on it. We'll have an exclusive interview with Christiano Ronaldo, and he speaks to our very own Pedro Pinto.


LU STOUT: Coming to you live from Hong Kong, you are back watching NEWS STREAM.

And it has been a fascinating year in men's tennis with different winners at each of the four grand slam events. And now the big guns are looking to finish 2012 on a high. Here's Amanda Davies with more - Amanda.

AMANDA DAVIES, CNN SPORTS CORRESPONDENT: Hi Kristie, yeah, the focus of the men's tennis world very much on London this week. And today specifically Novak Djokovic and Andy Murray will be looking to join Roger Federer in the semifinals of the season ending world tour finals.

Federer booked his place in the four with victory over David Ferrer as he looks to claim the title for a third year in a row. Federer beat his Spanish opponent for the 14th time in as many meetings on Thursday. He broke Ferrer's unbreaten run of 11 matches to a pretty abrupt end. He finished off the match 6-4, 7-6. So Roger Federer guaranteed to make it out of the group stage without relying on any other results over the next couple of days.

On to some football news, and much like at Manchester City, the owners of the Russian club Anzhi Makhachkala have spent a fortune looking for domestic and European glory. The likes of Samuel Eto'o, Yuriy Zhirkov, and the manager Guus Hiddink were all brought over in the last year.

And Anzhi took an important step towards the knockout stages of the Europa League on Thursday beating Liverpool in a Group A game in Moscow. The only goal of the match was netted by the Ivory Coast international Lacina Traore in the 45th minute.

Makhachkala's win means they're not top of the group. Liverpool in second, but they very much put out a second string outfit yesterday.

There was an emotional return to White Hart Lane on Wednesday night for Fabrice Muamba. It was the first time the former Bolton footballer had been back to the ground where he suffered a cardiac arrest last season. Muamba's heart stopped beating, of course, for 78 minutes after he collapsed during Bolton's FA Cup match against Spurs. And despite making a miraculous recovery, his heart condition means that he won't be able to play professional football again, but on Thursday Muamba, a very emotional Muamba was back on the pitch where he nearly lost his life making an appearance ahead of Spurs Europa League match against Maribor.

Now, Christiano Ronaldo has admitted exclusively to CNN that he thinks his image may have acted against him when it comes to winning world football's top awards. Ronaldo is considered by many, of course, to be the nearest rival to Barcelona's Lionel Messie for the FIFA Ballon d'Or.

Their rivalry is just one of the things he discussed when he sat down with Pedro Pinto.


PEDRO PINTO, CNN SPORTS CORRESPONDENT: We're approaching the end of the year and that means the Ballon d'Or is around the corner. Be honest with me, how much do you want to win it?

CHRISTIANO RONALDO, FOOTBALLER: A lot. This is mean a lot for me.

PINTO: I spoke with some - with some journalists who voted for the last award where I was presenting in Monaco, the European footballer of the year, and some of them may have voted for Messi because they like Messi more than they like you, not the football but the image. Do you think sometimes you're a victim of that?

RONALDO: I don't want to cry about that, but sometimes I think, yes.


RONALDO: Why? It's a question that I never give 100 percent the right answer, because sometimes I really don't know. Maybe sometimes I agree maybe I have bad image in the pitch, because I'm too serious, I take serious, but if you really know me, if you are my friend, if you live inside my house, if you share the day with me you will know that I hate to lose.

PINTO: So when they say you're arrogant, for example, what does that make you feel?

RONALDO: The people who call me arrogant, most of them are like one day to seat with them and have a, you know, a chat with them to see which way they see that I am arrogant, because I think they have to sit with me to speak with me to know the - who is the real Christiano.

PINTO: so who is the real Christiano?

RONALDO: Well, I will describe myself like I am a friend of who is my friend - I hate to lose. I'm honest. I'm direct person.

PINTO: Do you think you pay the price for being too honest then?

RONALDO: Sometimes, yes. Definitely, yes. But this is part of my education.

PINTO: Christiano's education as a player is a responsibility Real Madrid Jose Mourinho has right now. I wanted to get Ronaldo's thoughts on his fellow countryman.

RONALDO: Well, my relationship with him is perfect. I'm sure 100 percent - 200 percent that is the best coach. Of course he deserve - he show every country which he is the best because he wins all the leagues. So, for me, the best coach is they have to show in many places. And he showed.


DAVIES: Thinks Sir Alex Ferguson might have something to say with that, Kristie.

But yeah, certainly divisive figure, Christiano Ronaldo, but you can't argue with the facts of what he's been doing on the pitch this season. It's a great interview. And there's a lot more coming up next week on CNN - Kristie.

LU STOUT: Yeah, great interview, some well phrased questions there by our Pedro Pinto. Amanda Davies there, thank you.

Now still to come right here on NEWS STREAM, a military scandal in the United States. Elite Navy SEALs are reprimanded for allegedly sharing classified information with a video game maker. We've got all the details after the break.


LU STOUT: I'm Kristie Lu Stout in Hong Kong. You're watching NEWS STREAM. And these are your world headlines.

Now U.S. President Barack Obama will visit Myanmar later this month. It will be the first ever visit there by a U.S. President. Mr. Obama is scheduled to meet democracy activist Aung San Suu Kyi as well as President Thein Sein. Now the White House says it hopes the trip will encourage Myanmar's ongoing transition to democracy.

Turkey says 8,000 people enter the country from Syria in just 24 hours. That as intense fighting rocks border towns. Now Turkey is already struggling to cope with an influx of more than 100,000 Syrian refugees since the conflict began.

Now a former oil executive has been named the next Archbishop of Canterbury. Now Justin Welby who has been a bishop for a year will formally be enthroned in March. And the decision by the Church of England will make Welby the spiritual leader of 77 million Anglicans around the world. He is a supporter of women bishops and an opponent of gay marriage, though he added the church must not accept any form of homophobia.

Now the father of a 15 year old girl who was shot by the Taliban for supporting girl's education has thanked those who have wished her well. Malala Yousufzai is recovering at a hospital in the English city of Birmingham after being attacked on her school van in Pakistan. Now Malala's father says his daughter has been inspired and humbled by the messages of support that he is receiving.

Now the man who gunned down six people and tried to kill a U.S. Congresswoman will spend the rest of his life behind bars. Now a federal judge sentenced Jared Loughner to seven consecutive life terms plus 140 years without the possibility of parole.

Now former Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords who was shot in the head by Loughner attended the sentencing as did nine other survivors of the shooting rampage in Tuscon last year. Now six people were killed and Giffords and 12 others were injured when Loughner opened fire in a shopping center parking lot where Giffords was greeting constituents.

And during the rampage, Loughner was armed with a loaded 9mm Glock pistol. And he had 60 extra rounds of ammunition.

Now on Piers Morgan Tonight, Giffords husband, astronaut Mark Kelly says politicians are failing on gun control.


MARK KELLY, U.S. ASTRONAUT: It's really unfortunate, you know, that somebody won't take the lead on this issue.

You know, Gabby and I are both gun owners. You know, we're supporters of the second amendment, but I don't really believe that that extends to high capacity magazines and extends to making it so easy to buy a gun in this country.

We elect leaders to try to address those problems. And this problem really hasn't been addressed sufficiently.


LU STOUT: Mark Kelly there.

Now Gabrielle Giffords resigned from the U.S. Congress earlier this year to focus on her continuing recovery from the shooting.

Now seven U.S. Navy SEALs have been reprimanded for giving up classified information to the developers of a video game. Now Navy official says the seven worked as paid consultants for the game Medal of Honor: War Fighter. Now the plot is fiction, but it takes many elements from reality. Now the players battle real terror groups like Abu Sayyaf in the Philippines and Al Shabaab in Somalia. And the final mission involves storming a terror leader's compound in Pakistan.

Now the publisher of the game, Electronic Arts, boasts that the game was written by real U.S. special forces while overseas. Now the seven Navy SEALs were charged with unauthorized showing of their official combat gear and for disclosing classified material.

Now all seven are active members of SEAL Team Six. And CBS News says one of the SEALs involved went on the raid that killed Osama bin Laden.

Let's get some perspective from a former U.S. Navy SEAL, Christopher Mark Heben. He served from 1996 until 2006. And for four of those years he was a member of SEAL Team Eight. He's currently COO of Medical Security International. He joins us from Cleveland, Ohio.

Christopher, thank you very much indeed for joining us.

And I've got to get to your reaction to the story first. I mean, what do you make of these Navy SEALs who gave up classified information for a video game?

CHRISTOPHER MARK HEBEN, FRM. U.S. NAVY SEAL: Well, my understanding of the situation is they gave away some pieces of equipment that they use and how these pieces of equipment are used. What they didn't give away was tactics, techniques, or procedures, the actual application of the equipment and how a person enters a compound or enters a room. Those - all those actions are still up to the person playing the game controlling the joystick.

So, yes did they divulge on some pieces of equipment, absolutely. These pieces of equipment, for instance a 4 2 nighvision system, is worth about $75,000 per unit. So - and these items are controlled under the U.S. government's ITAR policy which prevents military grade systems from reaching other countries unless it's strictly controlled and documented.

So the chances of this equipment falling into enemy hands is slim to none. They didn't give away any procedures or techniques or tactics, just some of the kit.

So, you know, these guys - people need to understand, they know exactly when to stop talking. They give just enough to accomplish the task at hand, that being making a video game that's cool and that will sell, and I think the government is a little upset that any information is coming out of SEAL Team Six right now and the fact that these guys were paid as well. So it was almost like a double dipping of sorts. So...

LU STOUT: But we're also learning that they did give up classified information. Do you happen to know what classified material was divulged to the game publisher Electronic Arts?

HEBEN: Well, like I said the classified material would just be with respect to the equipment that was used. They certainly didn't leak any names or any future operations. And what people need to understand is, you know, Mark Owen wrote the book "No Easy Day," detailed the raid on the Osama bin Laden's compound, and also gave like a more intimate account of the SEALs in their day-to-day. So it was a very true to life, very accurate account of everyday operations of SEAL Team Six.

But what he didn't give away was all the sensitive information that they gathered in bin Laden's compound in a procedure what's called SSE, or sensitive site exploitation. All this information they got, they're still using and acting on right now.

So, you know, are you giving away the farm by giving little pieces of information and intimate details? Probably not. And, you know, the bottom line is, al Qaeda and the Taliban are not going to use Modern Warfare: Warfighter as a training or recruiting tool for their cause. They're just not going to do it.

We've raided compounds for the last 10 years. We've never recovered a video game in any of these compounds. We've recovered a lot of porn, but no video games.

So, you know, it's...

LU STOUT: But still, the question needs to be asked, why did they do it? Yeah - but why did they do this? I mean, this is just a two day video game consulting gig. You did say they know what to reveal. They know when to stop talking, but they did risk their careers. So why consult for a video game maker? Why do this?

HEBEN: You know, I don't know. There were seven of them, so they had to make a collective decision. So they - you know they must have had some rationale behind it. Sometimes we take the mindset that, well, we're going to give information, but we're going to control it and we're going to, you know, manipulate the way it's presented.

And keep this in mind, it's easy for us to give out wrong information as well.

LU STOUT: And how often are U.S. Navy SEALs approached by video game publishers and book publishers and movie producers, et cetera, to share what you know? It may be even what could be deemed as classified information. I mean, were you ever approached when you were a Navy SEAL?

HEBEN: Not when I was an active duty SEAL, but certainly in the few years after absolutely.

You know, people also need to realize is that the U.S. military, special operations command and SEAL Team Three actually gave full access to a gentleman by the name of David Sears. David Sears works for Soft Studios and Justin Bastion right now in North Carolina. They're developing another game. Sears was a director - creative director and visionary for the versions one and versions two.

Now the teams gave him complete access to everything. They even checked out weapons so they could record the actual sounds that these weapons made when they were firing. And they assigned four to six active duty SEALs to assist in the recreations of these avatar suits that they wore to, you know motion capture.

So it seems to be that the Navy is having a knee jerk reaction right now to the bin Laden raid and the leak of information. And they've changed the rules all of a sudden. Whereas before, they allowed it to happen, because they thought wow what a great recruiting tool. We'll contact David Sears and give him everything. Now they're clamping down on everything. And a matter of fact, I got a call from a friend of mine at that group not too long ago and he said, hey, I'm really concerned that command has brought in Department of Justice assets in order to overturn every stone that any of us has ever walked on.

So they brought in the FBI. To my knowledge, that's the first time that's ever been done at a command at that level. So they're quite serious about it.

And, you know, these guys face an article 15, which is NJP, or non-judicial punishment. It's the equivalent to a civil action. It's not a criminal court proceeding like a court martial would be. So letters of reprimand, yes; career ending, most likely. One half of one month's pay for two months, that's the most severe financial burden that can be assessed to them.

And these fines and levees are given to them by their commander, so it's not like a Navy court. There's no JAG officers. So it's a very low key, hard smack on the hand that can damage and end careers as well.

LU STOUT: All right, but what you described just a moment ago was utterly fascinating. What you described was almost a change of climate almost, a crackdown about what you can and be allowed to reveal because everyone wants in on this story.

Thank you for giving us the view from the special ops community there. That was Christopher Mark Heben who was a former U.S. Navy SEAL joining us live. Thank you so much for that.

Now let's make a shift now and get you the world weather forecast and some dramatic - dramatic weather event taking place in Tasmania with a tornado caught on tape.

Mari Ramos joins us now from the world weather center with that - Mari.

MARI RAMOS, CNN WEATHER CORRESPONDENT: Kristie, by all accounts this is just one of many funnels that were forming through the early morning and afternoon hours across parts of Tasmania, yeah, in Australia, way south.

Let's go ahead and take a look at the pictures, because they are pretty impressive.

Now, there were no reports of serious damage. Some reports of some roof damage came in. No reports of injury. So that's good news. But here you can see that ominous cloud - can you imagine seeing this out your window? We appreciate you taping this, but pretty scary stuff.

Now I want you to notice that funnel cloud just kind of coming down very thick. This type of weather event is very rare in this part of the world, but it can happen. And this one happened as a front was coming through. They began to form, there was even hail associated with some of these. These types of tornadoes that form here, usually in the hills, they tend to not be as severe as the tornadoes that we might see in the plains here in the United States, just a weather events are just a little bit different.

Come back over to the weather map, let me show you another picture of what we're seeing. You can see that it was in a populated area - pretty scare, though, and very large indeed as you can see from this perspective here in Hobart.

The weather much better now, still a bit on the windy side, but that weather system has moved on. It's this one that you see here. Moving in the general direction of the south island of New Zealand you'll get some nasty weather with that there as well.

Just a reminder that tornadoes can almost happen anywhere in the world, so it's not just a U.S. thing, or just something that happens in the central plains of the U.S. And here we see them in Tasmania, very rare indeed.

Notice the moisture now stretching here across Queensland. We need to get some rain, because there are some fires that have been burning here across some of these areas, but we definitely don't need the wind. And we haven't gotten too much rain with this weather system.

You can see the front continuing to edge along the coast. There are some high wind warnings here, but the showers will be tapering off as we head into the weekend and then drier conditions prevail as we head into Sydney and Melbourne and even for you guys down there in Hobart.

Let's go ahead and move on and talk a little bit about the weather across East Asia. Chilly in Beijing, 5 right now, 6 in Seoul. Here comes our next push of cold air. You can see all these blues on our map. Well, all of this is headed your way here as we head into the weekend.

We have our next big weather system that's coming along. And that one will bring you snowfall again as we head into and in through the next couple of days. You can see that low right there. Possible snow even for you guys in Beijing again, but the bulk of it will be farther to the north and east. Thunderstorms, heavy rain, sorry just in time for the weekend here.

We'll take a quick break right here on NEWS STREAM. Don't go away.


LU STOUT: Welcome back.

Now Forbes magazine calls her one of the world's most powerful women. Now Kiran Mazumdar-Shaw is a leader in the pharmaceutical industry and has helped boost India's standing in the field. But you may be surprised to hear how her business began. Becky Anderson has more.


BECKY ANDERSON, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: If you thought only IT entrepreneurs started their businesses in a garage, well, meet the exec dubbed India's richest self-made woman, founder of the drug company Biocon.

KIRAN MAZUMDAR-SHAW, BIOCON FOUNDER: I call myself an accidental entrepreneur.

ANDERSON: At just 25, with a degree in beer making, she started Biocon which today is valued at more than $800 million.

MAZUMDAR-SHAW: It has taken me over 30 years to get from a garage to the huge campus that we have today. It's been a long journey. It's been a very exciting journey.

ANDERSON: With what amounts to less than 200 U.S. dollars today, she helped pioneer the biotechnology sector in India and charted a news course for women in business.

MAZUMDAR-SHAW: I have never let gender get in my way of doing what I wanted to.

ANDERSON: As chairman and managing director of Biocon, she leads a company that conducts research and manufacturers generic drugs and components, partnering with global pharmaceutical companies such as Bristol-Myers Squibb and Mylan. But for her, it's about more than just business.

This businesswoman and philathropist is Kiran Mazumdar-Shaw.

Bangalore, India is considered among the world's top business centers, often referred to as India's Silicon Valley. It's here Kiran Shaw started Biocon. The town she grew up in became the setting for her vision.

MAZUMDAR-SHAW: I wanted to make sure that we created a research environment for scientists, because we at that time were facing a very strong brain drain of scientists and engineers from India.

ANDERSON: The year was 1978.

MAZUMDAR-SHAW: I couldn't get anyone to lend me any money, let alone invest in my venture. I started up my company in a garage. And, you know, a garage was not exactly the best kind of office address to have.

ANDERSON: Shaw eventually found a backer when an Irish businessman looking to expand his holdings helped her start Biocon in India.

Today, Shaw heads a company considered a premier health care firm with more than 6,000 employees researching and developing medicines to fight cancer and diabetes amongst other ailments.

Biocon is the fastest growing insulin company in India. All of this started using concepts Kiran Shaw learned making yeast for beer.

MAZUMDAR-SHAW: So that's how I sort of stayed connected with my original expertise in brewing.

ANDERSON: Shaw says it's also important to use her expertise and resources to help those in need. On this day, we're with her as she heads to a low cost cancer hospital she founded in 2009.

MAZUMDAR-SHAW: And I pressed that cancer was one area that needs (inaudible). Cancer treatment is so expensive. And very few people can afford cancer treatment anywhere in the world.

ANDERSON: A large portion of health care costs in India are paid out of pocket by patients, a major financial hardship for the poor.

MAZUMDAR-SHAW: India is a country where 80 percent of health care spend is out of pocket. And therefore when we talk about the right to health care, we don't even have the vestiges of a decent health care system.

It's not about affluence or poverty, I think every cancer patient needs to be dealt with in a very caring way, with sensitivity, with a sense of compassion. And I think this hospital provides it.

ANDERSON: In the coming weeks, you'll find out more about Kiran Shaw, including her commitment to education.


LU STOUT: Becky Anderson reporting there.

You're watching NEWS STREAM, and still ahead frightening moments at a London shopping mall where this security camera captured a real-life heist that was something out of an action movie.


LU STOUT: Now a public awareness campaign in south Australia is certainly getting people's attention. A look closer at this wrecked car and, it's actually 17 painted bodies all stacked on top of each other. And this is part of an awareness campaign to get drivers to slow down. Now the underlying message is that when cars crash it's really people who pay the price.


UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I hit on the actual drawing of the cars the bodies like the side mirror would be a head and the tires would obviously were people rolled up. Once I sort of (inaudible) people on top of the drawing, everything just sort of (inaudible) up and sort of made sense.


LU STOUT: Now the body art, the photo shoot, it all took 18 hours to complete.

And finally, take a look at this, imagine you're in a mall in London, you're walking around doing some window shopping there and then a motorcycle gang rides in and carries out a smash and grab heist. Now six men on three bikes, they road into the shopping mall armed with axes, half of them they go into a jewelry store, before riding out two minutes later with their stolen goods. The police eventually found their abandoned bikes, but no sign of the robbers.

And that is NEWS STREAM, but the news continues at CNN. "WORLD BUSINESS TODAY" is next.