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Petraeus Affair; Challenges for Sandy Victims; GOP Hopefuls; BBC Executive Resigns; Expert Suggests Changes to U.S. Election Law; Interview with Steve Nardizzi of Wounded Warrior Project; Israel Fires Warning Shots at Syria

Aired November 11, 2012 - 06:00   ET


RANDI KAYE, CNN ANCHOR: From CNN world headquarters in Atlanta, this is EARLY START WEEKEND.


GENERAL MICHAEL HAYDEN, FORMER CIA DIRECTOR: It's a tragedy. It's a tragedy for the nation. It's a tragedy for the agency.


KAYE: Harassing e-mails. A second woman involved. A scandal unfolding on Election Day. We'll bring you details on the affair that brought down the most powerful spy chief in America.

Another scandal. This time overseas. The BBC's chief resigns amid outrage over false allegations. We'll have a live report.

They're our fathers, our mothers, our sons and daughters. This Veterans Day, we honor the heroes that fight for America's freedom.

It is Sunday, November 11th. Good morning, everyone. I'm Randi Kaye.

We start with new details on the scandal that led to the resignation of CIA Director General David Petraeus. A timeline has now come into focus, as well as new information on the FBI investigation that brought this affair to light. Here's CNN intelligence correspondent Suzanne Kelly.


SUZANNE KELLY, CNN INTELLIGENCE CORRESPONDENT: We now know from a U.S. official that it was a complaint that Paula Broadwell, the woman who wrote the biography of General David Petraeus, was sending harassing e-mails to another woman close to the CIA director that prompted the FBI to investigate. Also we know from that source that the investigation led to the discovery of e-mails between Broadwell and Petraeus that indicated the affair. Now, that second woman hasn't been identified. And the official we spoke with didn't know the nature of that woman's relationship with the former director.

But more details are coming out about the timeline of events and when U.S. officials were notified of the circumstances of this investigation. A senior U.S. intelligence official tells CNN that the FBI informed the director of National Intelligence, James Clapper, about the investigation on Tuesday night, election night, just as some polls were beginning to close and that Director Clapper, as a friend, colleague, fellow officer and admirer, urged Petraeus to step down from his position.

We know as well from that intelligence source that Director Clapper informed the White House about the investigation on Wednesday. And then, of course, on Thursday, the president and Director Petraeus met and that's when his letter of resignation was, in fact, offered to the president.

The questions now, of course, will focus on this second woman. Who was she? What was the nature of her relationship with Petraeus? And what more do officials know about the nature of those e-mails between Broadwell and this other woman? Maybe some of those questions will be answered as the Oversight Committee has now began to pose questions of their own over this investigation and why they weren't informed of it until just hours before Director Petraeus sent notice of his resignation and the reasons behind it to the men and women who work for him at the CIA.

Suzanne Kelly, CNN, Washington.


KAYE: Michael Hayden was CIA director under President George W. Bush. Here's his reaction to Petraeus' resignation and his thoughts on the future of the agency.


GENERAL MICHAEL HAYDEN, FORMER CIA DIRECTOR: It's a tragedy. It's a tragedy for the nation. It's a tragedy for the agency. Included, tragedy for the Petraeus family. Now, they'll move on and we wish them all the best, but it's just very sad. The agency is healthy. The deputy director, Mike Morrell, he used to work with me. Mike was my number three. He was President Bush's daily briefer. This is a man who's spent 30 plus years in the agency. He'll keep it steady and stable during this transition period.


KAYE: Michael Morrell is the acting CIA director now. He'll step in to testify before Congress this week on the Benghazi attack. The president still has to nominate a permanent replacement. We'll have much more on this story throughout the morning. I'll also talk with another journalist who covered the general in Iraq, who has some ideas on why he may have cheated.

Nearly two weeks after Superstorm Sandy ravaged the East Coast, about 127,000 people on Long Island, New York, remain without power. It is sparking outrage from New York Governor Andrew Cuomo, as well as residents. And now local officials are vowing to do the job they say utility companies have not. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

RICK SCHAFFER, BABYLON TOWN SUPERVISOR: What we have felt here is that there's been an absence of leadership. And in that case, we're going to step in and fill that leadership void. And we are working directly with the resources on the ground to get power restored as quickly as possible.


KAYE: Later today, Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano will make her second trip to Staten Island, the hardest hit of the five New York burrows.

Joining me by phone now is Howard Lorsch. He's a resident of Oceanside, New York.

Howard, good morning. We spoke yesterday. We wanted to check on with you -- we wanted to check on you and see how you're doing today. Any indication yet when you may get power back?

HOWARD LORSCH, OCEANSIDE, NEW YORK, RESIDENT (via telephone): Well, good morning, Randi. Thanks for having me back.

No indication yet. I certainly do appreciate the opportunity to express how disappointed my fellow Oceanside residents and I continue to be with the emergency response. The one bright light yesterday was, we actually had a sanitation truck come down our block and begin to take some garbage away. But still no indication of when we'll have power back. And almost what's worse is, there's really no communication or information flow at all about this. I haven't seen any LIPA trucks or LIPA personnel in the area. So both literally and figuratively, we remain totally in the dark here.

KAYE: So how is everybody coping there? And are you able to be in your house or is it just to unsafe there?

LORSCH: Well, we've not seen, you know, a lot of presence of police officer or National Guard. I haven't seen a police officer on my block or any protection services whatsoever. Many houses are vacant. People are a little worried, obviously. There's a lot of finger pointing, as you report, among elected officials about blame and responsibility, and there's a lot of energy being expended pointing fingers, but the residents continue to be the victims. And the need for actual electricity and some information really is not being met.

KAYE: Secretary Napolitano is heading to Staten Island today. That's not your area. But if she was coming to your neck of the wood, what would you say to her?

LORSCH: Bring some gas and a long extension cord.

KAYE: Anything else?

LORSCH: Well, I thing people really need to step up. And it's not about rhetoric, it's about some information and some action. So we need LIPA officials and our electing officials here to really step up and deliver some results and get some things moving and put some resources in the area to get some power back. In sum, it's two weeks now. This is getting very old.

KAYE: Yes, it certainly is for a whole lot of you. Howard Lorsch, nice to hear your voice again and we'll check back with you. Thank you.

LORSCH: Thanks very much, Randi. Have a great day.

KAYE: You too.

Today we stop and take time to honor our veterans.


UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE (singing): Whose broad stripes and bright stars through the perilous fight.


KAYE: Parades and services are being held across the country to remember all the men and women who have served in our armed forces. So, for all the veterans and your family or otherwise, don't forget to thank them for their extraordinary sacrifices.

President Obama will pay tribute to American heroes this morning. He'll lay a wreath at the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier at Arlington National Cemetery and he'll make a statement around 11:00 Eastern Time.

They served in battle. Now they're ready to serve their constituents. We'll tell you how Tuesday's election proved to be historic for several veterans who served in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Plus, Republicans are looking to capitalize on lessons they learned last week, but who's going to be the flag bearer come 2016? Yes, we're already talking about 2016. We'll take a look at the list. The very long list.


KAYE: Welcome back.

Politics now. And we finally have a winner in Florida. CNN projects that President Obama will win the state. This is based on updated vote totals released yesterday. Meanwhile, Florida Governor Rick Scott is ordering a review of the election process in his state. People there waited in line for hours, even after polls closed in some parts of south Florida.

Well, it is never too early to start looking ahead. So we asked CNN political editor Paul Steinhauser to start handicapping the 2016 presidential race.

PAUL STEINHAUSER, CNN POLITICAL EDITOR: Call it the never-ending campaign. When one election ends, the next one begins.


MITT ROMNEY (R), FORMER PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: I have just called President Obama to congratulate him.

BARACK OBAMA, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: I just spoke with Governor Romney, and I congratulated him and Paul Ryan on a hard- fought campaign.

STEINHAUSER: With the 2012 election barely in the rear view mirror, we're already thinking about the next road to the White House.

Marco Rubio heads to Iowa next weekend to headline a Republican event. Does the popular GOP senator in Florida have designs on running for the next Republican nomination? A source close to Rubio says that kind of talk's way too premature. But adds about the state that kicks off the presidential caucus and primary calendar, it's always good to have friends in Iowa.

Rubio's just one name in a large list of Republicans who may consider runs for the White House. They include Governor Chris Christie of New Jersey, Bob McDonnell of Virginia, Bobby Jindal of Louisiana and Scott Walker of Wisconsin, senators Rand Paul of Kentucky and John Thune of South Dakota, former Governor Jeb Bush of Florida, former Senator Rick Santorum, who battled Mitt Romney deep into this year's primaries, former Governor Mike Huckabee, who ran for president four years ago, and the past two Republican running mates, Congressman Paul Ryan and former Alaska Governor Sarah Palin.

As for the Democrats, the vice president keeps dropping hints of running again for president. Here's Joe Biden from Election Day.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Is it the last time you're going to vote for yourself, you think?


STEINHAUSER: And even though she keeps saying no to running, there are tons of Democrats who hope Secretary of State Hillary Clinton will eventually say yes.

As for new names, keep your eyes on Maryland Governor Martin O'Malley and New York Governor Andrew Cuomo.

Now, I can keep going, but we don't have the time. If you think I'm jumping the gun, listen to this reputable guy.

WOLF BLITZER, HOST, CNN'S "THE SITUATION ROOM": For political news junkies like me, it's never too early to start thinking about Iowa and New Hampshire and all of the rest.


STEINHAUSER: Call this the beginnings of the pre-season, when possible White House contenders write books, start up PACs, campaign for fellow party candidates, and start building up friends in the early primary and caucus states.


KAYE: Paul Steinhauser, thank you very much.

And while 2016 is on some politicians' minds, several veterans who served in Iraq and Afghanistan are celebrating their 2012 victory. In fact, it was a historic election for them. Our Pentagon correspondent, Barbara Starr, has more now on the veterans getting ready to take their seat in Congress.


BARBARA STARR, CNN PENTAGON CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Republican Tom Cotton, a veteran of Iraq and Afghanistan, was one of the big winners Tuesday, seizing the fourth congressional district seat in Arkansas.

TOM COTTON (R), ARKANSAS CONG-ELECT: Although I don't know what committee I'll be assigned to, ultimately I certainly want to play a central role in helping guide America's national security policy and foreign policy in the next Congress.

STARR: Cotton, a law school graduate, was an infantry officer with the 101st airborne division. Nine veterans from these wars have just won congressional seats, seven Republicans and two Democrats.

SETH LYNN, GEORGE WASHINGTON UNIVERSITY: This is definitely a historic election for Iraq and Afghanistan veterans. There are going to be more Iraq and Afghanistan veterans in the next Congress. Twice as many in the next Congress than there are currently.

STARR: Seth Lynn runs a program training veterans running for elected office. He says Iraq and Afghanistan veterans may finally have found their political voice.

LYNN: And I think a lot of people have come home, really established themselves in their communities, become leaders, you know, in business, in public service, within their communities and have now been having a lot more success running for office.

STARR: Despite the influx of 9/11-era veterans into Congress, the number of veterans overall is declining. Both the House and Senate will have fewer veterans this year than last.

Democrat Tammy Duckworth lost both her legs in Iraq. She has just won a seat in Congress. She believes the downturn is a moment in history.

TAMMY DUCKWORTH (D), ILLINOIS CONG-ELECT: The giants, the lions of the World War II generation step away and the Viet -- and the Korean War generation steps away. And when the last of the Vietnam vets, as they begin to retire, now you go to the all volunteer force. And there's just fewer of us in general. STARR: Duckworth says she has spent a lifetime in service and she believes that service is what has helped her and other veterans win their races for elected office.

Barbara Starr, CNN, the Pentagon.


KAYE: The BBC, it is the source of news for many in Britain, many here in the U.S. as well. But now one of the world's largest media organizations has become the lead story. We'll take you to London for a live report.

And good morning, Washington, D.C. Who says things get ugly in Washington? Look at that beautiful picture of the nation's Capitol.


KAYE: Voices can still be heard buried underneath piles of rubble from a collapsed department store. Take a look here. This happened in Ghana. They've been trapped since Wednesday when the building fell apart. At least 12 bodies have been pulled. Seventy-eight others were rescued. One man says he received a phone call from his girlfriend who's trapped in the rubble. Crews are working hard to find her.

In the Mideast, cross border fighting is flaring up between Palestinians and Israeli. Israeli officials saying more than 30 rockets fired from Gaza have hit southern Israel. Six Palestinians have been killed in the last two days as the two sides trade fire. Four of those kills were civilians gathered for a funeral yesterday. At least four Israeli troops have been injured.

A headline-grabbing sex abuse scandal implicates a high profile British politician and now one person is out of a job. But the man who resigned may not be who you think. Joining me now from London is our senior international correspondent Dan Rivers.

Dan, good morning.


KAYE: So this scandal centers on a TV program aired by the British Broadcasting Corporation, the BBC. A report that turned out to be false. Walk us through, if you can, what happened and the fallout.

RIVERS: OK. So last week, just over a week ago, the BBC's news night program aired a segment in which it alleged a former close colleague of former Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher was a child abuser. Now, they didn't name the person, but it was pretty clear who it was. And the Internet and Twitter were alike with rumors almost immediately naming this person as Lord McAlpine.

The problem was that the victim who was making these allegations had got it wrong. It was a case of mistaken identity. The victim was actually talking about someone completely different. The BBC didn't check the basic facts. They didn't show a photo of Lord McAlpine to the victim to double-check. They didn't go to Lord McAlpine to check the allegations. And so they had to do a complete u-turn and issue a very kind of humbling apology. And it's all resulted now in the direct (ph) general of the BBC, the most senior executive here having to resign. George Entwistle standing down late last night. Other heads may well roll as well. But this has been a really stormy couple of weeks for this institution here in Britain.

KAYE: Yes, it certainly seems so. But the BBC is also in the middle of another sex abuse controversy. This one involving one of its owner employees, right, a former presenter. What happened there?

RIVERS: Well, I mean, this would have been bad enough, the thing concerning Lord McAlpine, who was named as a child abuser and who wasn't . He was completely innocent. But it came just a week after the BBC had to apologize again for failing to air allegations about one of its own presenters. This is Jimmy Savile, who they worked on a very long piece, setting out numerous allegations against Jimmy Savile. That was a solid piece of journalism, but it was pulled at quite a late stage. No one is really clear about why.

The BBC then went on to air a glowing tribute to Jimmy Savile. In the end, a rival broadcast aired the allegations and the BBC had to apologize. So they got themselves into a real tangle here. On the one hand, pulling an investigation, which was correct about a pedophile in their own ranks, and then later airing an investigation about a pedophile which was come wrong. And I think those two things combined have left the BBC really badly damaged.

KAYE: Yes. And there is news, though, this morning, right, in an arrest in the case?

RIVERS: There is, yes. Now this is in connection to the Jimmy Savile investigation, which has now turned into this sprawling police inquiry. They're saying more than 300 potential victims of Jimmy Savile alone. But they're looking into other people who may have been pedophiles at the time back in the 1970s who weren't investigated properly.

This relates to that category (ph), to others. A man in his 70s from Cambridge has been arrested. So they're beginning to arrest a number of people. The problem is with all this, it happened such a long time ago, 30 or 40 years ago. Many of the people alleged to be involved are dead. It's obviously very difficult to prove its witnesses, victim's word against the accused. But they are now leave no stone unturned, the police say, in order to try and get to the truth of just how widespread this problem was back then.

KAYE: Dan Rivers with an eye on the scandals that are stacking up. Dan, thank you.

Remembering our war heroes. A 93-year-old vet is guest of honor at a symphony to hear music he created during World War II. And CNN's cameras are there.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK) KAYE: Welcome back and thanks for starting your morning with us. And a very special welcome to our troops watching around the world on the American Forces Network. Happy Veterans Day to all of you. I'm Randi Kaye. It is half past the hour. Glad you're with us.

We're talking new details this morning about the surprise resignation of CIA Director David Petraeus. A U.S. official say his extramarital affair came to light because of an e-mail investigation. It was sparked by a complaint of harassing e-mails allegedly sent by Paula Broadwell, Petraeus' biographer, to another woman close to Petraeus. The official didn't name the woman or know the nature of her relationship with Petraeus.

Another week of hearings for Army Staff Sergeant Robert Bales, the U.S. soldier charged in a deadly Afghanistan shooting rampage that left 16 villagers dead in March. Today, a 7-year-old Afghan girl testified that she hid behind her father as he was shot and killed. These hearings will determine if Bales can be court-martialed or even face the death penalty. Bales faces 16 counts of premeditated murder and six counts of attempted murder.

The campaign is over, but Mitt Romney doing one last task as candidate, thanking his supporters. An e-mail went out yesterday thanking those who put up yard signs, made phone calls, and attended rallies. Romney kept his tone bright, writing, quote, "we still believe that better days are ahead. It's up to us to rally together to renew America's promise and restore American greatness."

In Florida, it was as close a race as you could get, but in the end, those electoral votes belonged to the president. CNN projecting that President Obama will win the state of Florida with 50 percent of the vote compared to Romney's 49 percent. That means the president won all eight battleground states.

Good news for Florida voters. Governor Rick Scott requested a review of his state's vote process, with a special emphasis on those areas where voters waited four hours or more to cast their ballots. According to Scott, more than 8.5 million votes were cast in Florida this year, an increase from the approximately 8.3 million in 2008.

Long lines weren't the only problem during the election. Some polling sites ran out of ballots, and voting machines actually malfunctioned. And with President Obama declaring, quote, "we have to fix that," we wanted to know if the U.S. election process is even fixable. So I spoke with election law expert Rick Hasen yesterday, and this is what he had to say.


RICK HASEN, ELECTION LAW EXPERT: Well, there are two big problems. One is that we have partisans running our elections. We had that in Florida in 2000. You remember the secretary of state there was not only a Republican elected official, she was also the co- chair of Bush's election committee. In no other country would they have a person who is running the election also be a part of one of the teams. The other problem we have is that we didn't have a single election on election day; we had something like 10,000 elections, because we administer elections on the local level. And a big part of the problem here is not people trying to steal elections, but the problem of competence and resources. Not everybody knows how to run it. They're running out of ballots, the lines are too long, the machines are malfunctioning. We just don't do it in a rational way. And some places, you have a much easier chance of being able to cast a vote that's going to count than in other parts of the country.

KAYE: So you say that Congress can -- not only can but should -- step in here to fix these problems. I mean, how would they do that? What kind of constitutional power do they actually have and what would it look like?

HASEN: Many people think it's an issue that's left to the states, but in fact, the Constitution says that when it comes to congressional elections, Congress can overpower the states. Congress can impose whatever rules it wants for congressional elections. If the states want to have different rules for their local elections, they can, but most of them would go along.

This is how we had laws like the 1993 Motor Voter Law, which required the states to do certain voter registration activities, keep their voter rolls clean. We had the Help America Vote Act in 2002. Congress can do this. I don't think they're going to do it, but we could have Congress step in tomorrow and set up a national agency that would run our elections.

KAYE: And you say even possibly the federal government could just completely take it over, take over the whole process.

HASEN: I'd like to see a system where the federal government registers all voters.


KAYE: General David Petraeus was a champion of his troops, and we want to get back to that story now. Certainly a champion. We've heard that many times of his troops in Iraq and Afghanistan, but we want to talk a little bit about what's happening with him. Back home certainly, his wife Holly became one of the leading advocates for veterans, and now their lives have certainly been turned upside down by revelations of an affair by General Petraeus and his resignation as director of the CIA.

Joining me on the phone now is Lisa DePaulo. She's a journalist who's interviewed and written about the general. Lisa, good morning to you. First, let me ask you what you think of this news. Were you surprised by it?

LISA DEPAULO, JOURNALIST: I don't know anyone who wasn't shocked by this. He's such a straight shooter, a cornball really, you know, a very decent guy. And yet, you know, this wasn't one of those things where it was, you know, you knew there must be something there. And yet, you know, when you really think of it, it's not that shocking. You know, it's very Mr. Appalachian Trail here. And in many ways, this is the Washington male curse. These guys, Petraeus especially, he was a geek who played by the rules his whole life, suddenly becomes a rock star. I think there's another aspect of this that really struck me when I was with him in Iraq, and that was -- I was fascinated by his marriage, because he told me he would go sometimes go 18 months without seeing Holly.

KAYE: So he talked about his wife with you.

DEPAULO: Oh, yes. And he told, like, of the beautiful love story of how they met. He talked about her with the utmost respect. And she was the superintendent's daughter when he was at West Point. The supe being the top, top guy. In fact, you know, he is -- his father-in-law was a four-star general. So Holly Knowlton was the daughter of a four-star, married to a four-star. She was prepared for this kind of life. Now, I don't mean her husband cheating on her. I mean, the military life, which is brutal. And they would go 18 months without seeing each other. He did not go home when his father died to bury his father, because as he put it, quite nobly to me, my soldiers make the same sacrifice.

KAYE: What do you know about -- have you followed the biography that was written about him and what do you know about how that was done?

DEPAULO: Oh, you mean by Paula?

KAYE: Mm-hmm.

DEPAULO: Yes. It was interesting, because even when I was in Iraq, and this is the fall of '08, I knew there was someone doing some big project on him, and they seemed very enamored with her, but I knew nothing of her nor did I meet her.

But I have to say I wasn't surprised by that either. Petraeus, at least in my experience, he was very willing to sit and talk and open up, and he has a great sense of humor. When we did start to talk about his personal life and his marriage, he was almost kind of happy to do that, because I don't think he got asked a lot of personal questions along the way.

But what he described was, you know, being on this blind date at West Point, and it turns out to be the supe's daughter. And he said the minute she opened the door when he picked her up, he was gob- smacked. He said all she had to do was snap her fingers. He fell head over heels for this woman.

KAYE: Yes, sounds like it.

DEPAULO: But they were young. They were young. And she -- he told this great story of their first date, like, you know, a bunch of cadets going out, and they went to a bunch of bars. And I said you took the supe's daughter to bars? And he said taverns. But it was really cute. She had this sweet -- and I kept saying, how do you deal with this, how do you deal with not seeing her for such long periods of time? So it is hard. KAYE: Yes, certainly--

DEPAULO: And keep in mind, you know, the other woman, or other woman No. 1, this isn't some bimbo. She was military like he was, West Point like he was, highly educated like he was, and they shared the passion of running every morning. It's not that strange when you look at all of that.

KAYE: We certainly don't know yet if she is the other woman. We know we have tried to reach her and we haven't been able to do that just yet. Do you think that his career is over? With -- is this a big scar (ph) in the public eye?

DEPAULO: Part of this, too, is the military code is so -- you know, he enforced it like no one else by living it. And that's part of the really sad part of this. Like he really believed and, you know, emulated that code. Is a military general, stars and stripes and medals hanging off his jacket over, yes. But Petraeus is a really smart guy, and I think, you know, there'll be a lot that he'll do in the civilian world going forward.

KAYE: We'll continue to watch his career and see where it does go. Lisa DePaulo, thank you for calling in this morning.

DEPAULO: Thanks, Randi.

KAYE: Despite the scandal, General Petraeus remains a four-star general, and a battlefield hero. And today we honor other our war heroes. Harold Van Heuvelen served in the Army during World War II, and while he was enlisted, he wrote about his time in the service in a symphony. This is his story.


HAROLD VAN HEUVELEN: My name is Harold Van Heuvelen, and my age is 93, and I'm a veteran of World War II. In 1945, I was stationed in New Orleans, Louisiana, at the New Orleans Army Air Base, and I was an instructor. The peace in Europe had already been written in the April of that year, and so they said we can do anything we wanted to. I decided to write a symphony. During those 70 years when it sat on the shelf, I'd look at it every once in a while and would think, why isn't this being played?

BOB VAN HEUVELEN, SON: My brother and I came upon the bound copy of the symphony. I talked to Senator Carl Levin, senator from Michigan, where my dad lives. Senator Levin wrote a letter to the Defense Department, and the next thing we knew, we had a letter back from the Army secretary saying we'd like to perform this symphony.

MAJ. TOD A. ADDISON, THE U.S. ARMY ORCHESTRA: I was kind of worried what I would see, and I was so grateful when I opened the score and saw that it was a total piece of music, very accessible, very melodic, neoromantic. It has a special meaning when you sit down and you play something and you know exactly what's behind it.

H. VAN HEUVELEN: So the first movement of my symphony is about the sadness of that period, the extreme sadness and sorrow of the Holocaust and the terrible loss of life. The second movement is sort of being geared for war. And the third movement is the warfare itself. The boys going to Omaha Beach and invading Germany. At the end of that movement, I have a victory march.



KAYE: He certainly does deserve that salute. One of our many heroes who we should be honoring today.

The Anglican Church has a new leader, but where does the new archbishop of Canterbury stand on same-sex marriage and other hot button social issues, and what does this mean for the future of the church? We'll discuss.


KAYE: Welcome back. 45 minutes past the hour now. The Anglican Church is getting a new archbishop. He is 56-year-old Justin Welby, and he will be facing some pretty serious challenges as he seeks to unite a church that is heavily divided. And here to tell us more about this new leader and what he'll be facing as the symbolic head of Anglicans worldwide is Nadia Bilchik. Good morning.


KAYE: All right, so let's talk about the Anglican Church. How many members, first of all, are we talking about?

BILCHIK: There are around 85 million Anglican members worldwide in 165 countries on six continents. It's in fact the fourth largest Christian denomination. So it's called the Anglican Communion, and it includes the Church of England, which means that the archbishop is the head cleric of the Church of England, which means he will actually coronate the new king or queen of England.

KAYE: So I guess the question is why -- we're talking about them being violated. Why are they so divided?

BILCHIK: There's two key issues, sexuality and gender.

KAYE: Which is why I guess a lot of people are wondering where he's going to stand. So where does he stand?

BILCHIK: Well, it is interesting. On Friday when he was actually ordained, he said he endorsed the Anglican view against gay marriage. However, and it is important to understand that he said, I am averse to the language of exclusion. We must have no truck of homophobia in any part of the church.

KAYE: That's a pretty big deal.

BILCHIK: It is. And the last archbishop actually resigned because the church is so divided over these issues, but it seems he really wants to be the person who reconciles this very divided church.

KAYE: So what do we know about him? What's his background?

BILCHIK: Well, this 56-year-old man was originally in the oil industry, and he became an executive, but his real expertise is banking. He was educated at Eton. He's married, with five children.

KAYE: What an interesting background.

BILCHIK: And of his five children, there was a time when he had a 7-month-old who died in a car accident, and he speaks about that as being a moment in his life that brought him closer to God. We also know that his mother, in fact, was one of Churchill's private secretaries.

KAYE: Wow.

BILCHIK: But certainly a man with a business background who only came to the church in his 30s. So what the Anglican Church is hoping is that here is a man who can bring together a very divided church, use his humanitarian experience. He also is very evangelical. Early on in his career, he always brought musicians into his services. So an unusual person to be in this position, but with great business acumen and certainly a desire to reconcile this, as you said, incredibly divided church.

KAYE: Let's hope he does. It will be very interesting to see what happens. Nadia, thank you. We appreciate that.

We heard a lot of passion about jobs and the economy from the political candidates, but not much about veterans who served in Afghanistan and Iraq. One military group is not so happy about that, and we'll tell you who, next.


KAYE: Welcome back to CNN SUNDAY MORNING. Another week of hearings for Army Staff Sergeant Robert Bales. The U.S. soldier charged in the deadly Afghanistan shooting rampage that left 16 villagers dead in March. Today, a 7-year-old Afghan girl testified that she hid behind her father as he was shot and killed. These hearings will determine if Bales can be court-martialed or even face the death penalty. Bales faces 16 counts of premeditated murder, six counts of attempted murder.

Details coming to us now about two homes in Indiana that exploded, leaving two dead and putting dozens of more homes in danger. The exact cause hasn't yet been determined, but according to the local fire department, it looks like a gas explosion. 200 residents in neighborhood remain evacuated, and rescue teams are now looking for other victims. Be sure to stay with us for some updates on that.

And this weekend, we stop and take time to honor our veterans. Parades and services are being held across the country to remember all the men and women who have served in our armed forces. Here are some live pictures from Arlington, Virginia, for you this morning. President Obama will also pay tribute to American heroes this morning. He'll lay a wreath at the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier at Arlington National Cemetery and make a statement around 11:00 a.m. Eastern time.

Leading up to the presidential election, there was a lot of passion about jobs and the economy, but you didn't hear much from the campaigns about veterans who served in Afghanistan and Iraq. CNN's Victor Blackwell spoke with the CEO of the Wounded Warrior Project, who expressed concern.


STEVE NARDIZZI, CEO, WOUNDED WARRIOR PROJECT: I think it's incredibly disappointing that there wasn't more attention during this campaign season from either side on veterans' issues. You know, we're still at war, and it's far too easy for the American public naturally to get distracted by the daily challenges we have. The economy -- I mean, right here in New York, we just had the horrible devastation from Hurricane Sandy -- but it's important that our political leaders maintain focus on the fact that we still have service members putting their lives in harm's way and come back injured on a daily basis from Iraq, from Afghanistan.

VICTOR BLACKWELL, CNN ANCHOR: We know that the first lady, Michelle Obama and the second lady, Dr. Jill Biden, have made military families a priority over the first time. But what would your challenge be for their husbands, for the president and the vice president, and those members of Congress moving forward to make sure that veterans are well taken care of when they come home from serving?

NARDIZZI: Well, they certainly need to maintain a focus on employment. The unemployment rates are much higher amongst returning Iraq and Afghanistan vets than the general population, and that's something we certainly need to change. And the second issue, which is a very dire issue, is mental health. Mental health needs to be a focus. There are too few mental health counselors in the Department of Veterans Affairs right now. They're trying to cope with hundreds of thousands warriors coming back with combat stress and depression, and that needs to be an area that this administration maintains a focus on.

BLACKWELL: Something I want you to talk about that -- I can't really place the person who said it, but I heard that never have so few been asked to do so much. Talking about the percentage of men and women who serve in Iraq and Afghanistan, and it's really remarkable the percentage of people who have been fighting these two wars for so long.

NARDIZZI: Yes. It's less than 1 percent of the population, and that creates huge challenges for our warriors when they come back and try to reintegrate into civilian life, because for the most part, they're coming back to communities that, unlike the World War II generation, unlike the Vietnam generation, many people in their communities had served or been impacted in some way by these conflicts, and to a large degree we as a nation are isolated from the ongoing conflicts.

BLACKWELL: Steve Nardizzi, founder and executive director of Wounded Warrior Project. Thank you, sir.

NARDIZZI: Thanks for having me.


KAYE: Two states vote to allow marijuana for recreational use. We'll focus on what this drug can do that other medications can't. Dr. Sanjay Gupta will weigh in. That's ahead. But first this.


UNIDENTIFIED MALE: When I got back from Iraq, I stood away from large crowds, malls, movies.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I wouldn't leave the house. Just didn't want to.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Stayed inside. Windows were blacked out.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I was really numb. Didn't feel like I had a purpose anymore.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Nightmares, constantly flashbacks.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Everything to me is still a combat zone.

MARY CORTANI, CNN HERO: Veterans with invisible wounds. We can't see a wheelchair, a prosthetic leg. They appear like you and I, but their suffering goes so deep, it touches the soul.

I learned how to train dogs while I served in the Army. I knew that a dog can add a lot in your life. I realized this is what I was supposed to do.

My name is Mary Cortani. I match veterans with service dogs, train them as a team, so that they can navigate life together.

When a veteran trains their own service dog, they have a mission and a purpose again.

Talk to them, tell them they did good.

Dogs come from shelters, rescue groups. They're taught to create a spatial barrier and can alert them when they start to get anxious.

Are you OK? You getting overwhelmed? Focus on Maggie.

The dog is capable of keeping them grounded.

You're focusing on him, and he's focusing on everything around you.

You start to see them get their confidence back, communicate differently. They venture out and begin to participate in life again. Being able to help them find that joy back in their life. It's priceless. (END VIDEOTAPE)



KAYE (voice-over): From CNN world headquarters in Atlanta, this is CNN SUNDAY MORNING.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It's tragedy. It's tragedy for the nation. It's tragedy for the agency.

KAYE: Harassing emails, a second woman involved, a scandal unfolding on Election Day. We'll bring you details on the affair that brought down the most powerful spy chief in America.

Seven trillion in tax increases and spending cuts, and the threat of another recession. That's the fiscal cliff that looms ahead, 51 days away.

He's all-time best selling novelist of hard cover fiction, but that's not his real passion. Our exclusive interview with author James Patterson.


KAYE: Good morning, everyone. I'm Randi Kaye. It is 7:00 on the East Coast, 4:00 a.m. out West. Thanks so much for starting your morning with us.

We are learning much more this morning about the end of the line for General David Petraeus. He stepped down as CIA director two days ago after admitting to having an extramarital affair. Now, we know from a U.S. official that the affair came to light during an investigation into e-mails sent by Petraeus' biographer Paula Broadwell to unnamed third person.

We also have a better timeline. National Security Director James Clapper was informed Tuesday evening. The president was told Thursday, hours before his face-to-face meeting with General Petraeus.

There are still questions about why congressional leaders weren't told until Friday. But let's get back to General Petraeus. An official tells CNN that James Clapper encouraged Petraeus to step down after learning of the affair.

Joining me now is Rajiv Chandrasekaran from "The Washington Post."

Rajiv, good morning to you.

Do you think the general wouldn't have stepped down if Clapper hadn't suggested it?

RAJIV CHANDRASEKARAN, THE WASHINGTON POST (via telephone): Good morning, Randi. I think Petraeus faced with this investigation, faced with officials understanding what has occurred between him and his biographer Paula Broadwell was left with little choice. And regardless of what the director of national intelligence, James Clapper, would have told him to do, from everything I know from David Petraeus, I think -- I think that resignation would likely have been something he would have suggested himself as well.

KAYE: You have written quite a bit about Petraeus. How surprised were you when you heard this news?

CHANDRASEKARAN: Profoundly surprised. I mean, it just did not seem in character. Petraeus was somebody who's more than just a shrewd battlefield tactician, a very capable strategist. For the last several years, he had fashioned himself as a leader of troops who spoke not just about courage on the battlefield but about personal character and virtue, and this was a man who held himself up and wanted the forces under him to hold themselves up to a higher standard.

So, it really -- to all who know him -- and I've spoken to many individual who worked closely with him over the years, over the last two days now. Everybody expresses a degree of shock. This was not something that people said, oh, yes, I saw this coming or, yeah, it was only matter of time. Everybody I've spoken to has just been in disbelief.

KAYE: Well, some have also, Rajiv, questioned whether it's really possible that the Obama administration didn't know about the investigation until Tuesday. What's your take on that?

CHANDRASEKARAN: Well, there's more to learn over here. And I know there are a lot of conspiracy theories floating around, particularly given that last Tuesday was the presidential election. That this coming week brings hearings into the depths of U.S. government personnel in Benghazi, Libya, obviously with the connection to the CIA.

This investigation, we do know had been going on for some months. There are some reports that there was some frustration at the FBI and perhaps even a complaint by a member of that FBI team to Republican staffers on Capitol Hill. All of that is still preliminary at this point, but certainly the next days are going to bring additional questions as to when officials started to learn how high up this went, how high up in the FBI and the Justice Department did that investigation go in terms of authorizing the examination, the e-mails, and why, for instance, director clapper didn't know earlier and why perhaps the president was not briefed earlier on this.

KAYE: All right. Rajiv Chandrasekaran, appreciate your time this morning -- "The Washington Post" senior correspondent -- we thank you.

CHANDRASEKARAN: Good to talk to you.

KAYE: Today, we honor veterans on this day. Parades and services are held across the country to remember all chose who served in our armed forces. So, for all the veterans in your family or otherwise, don't forget to thank them for their extraordinary sacrifices today.

President Obama will pay tribute to them later this morning. He'll lay a wreath at the Tomb of the Unknown Soldier at Arlington National Cemetery.

A familiar challenge for the folks in Washington, how to fix the U.S. economy. With just 51 days until the so-called fiscal cliff, will President Obama and Congress be able to bridge the divide and find a solution?

CNN's Athena Jones takes a closer look at what's at stake.


BARACK OBAMA, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: It's time to get back to work.

ATHENA JONES, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): With the election in the rear view mirror, the focus in Washington is back on efforts to avoid the economically devastating fiscal cliff.

JEANNE SAHADI, CNN MONEY CORRESPONDENT: If we just go over the cliff and let the policies stay in effect, we're basically going to undo the recovery. Neither party really wants to be blamed for that.

JONES: The cliff amounts to $7 trillion in spending cuts and tax increases over the next decade. The threat of these painful cuts set to begin on January 1st is part of a deal Congress and the president made last year to force them to agree on a long-term deficit reduction plan.

DANIEL NEWHAUSER, ROLL CALL: This is unprecedented scenario that Congress has basically put a gun to its own head and said, "If we don't act, we're going to shoot ourselves."

JONES: So far, that long-term plan hasn't materialized. The biggest chunk of the cliff, the Bush tax cuts. They're also a big sticking point. Democrats insist cuts for families making $250,000 or more must end.

OBAMA: We're serious about reducing the deficit. We have to combine spending cuts with revenue. And that means asking the wealthiest Americans to pay a little more in taxes.

JONES: Republicans say that will hurt the economy.

REP. JOHN BOEHNER (R-OH), SPEAKER OF THE HOUSE: Feeding the growth of government through higher tax rates won't help us solve the problem.

JONES: But the speaker also signaled what could be an opening, saying raising more revenue is now on the table as long as it comes from tax reform and not higher rates. One thing that's clear, lawmakers want the president to be involved in any deal making.

BOEHNER: I think it's important for us to come to an agreement with the president, but this is his opportunity to lead.

JONES: And taxes aren't the only hang up. Congress also has to figure out how to reduce spending on entitlements like Social Security and Medicare, the Democrats' sacred cows.

With the balance of power unchanged on Capitol Hill, finding that elusive common ground on these issues could be tough, both in the lame duck session and beyond. A short-term deal that postpones the cliff appears most likely.

NEWHAUSER: Give everybody a little bit of time, breathing room to get back next year. In the meantime think about what and exactly how you want to do this and give everyone time to negotiate, quite frankly.

JONES: It's sure to be a long and rocky road ahead.

Friday, the president hosts a meeting with congressional both from both parties at the White House -- Randi.


KAYE: Athena Jones, thank you very much.

Now that marijuana is legal for recreational use in two states, how safe really is it and what can pot do for your health that other medications can't? Our chief medical correspondent Dr. Sanjay Gupta will weigh in.


KAYE: Voters in two states, Washington state and Colorado, voted to legalize marijuana. Not for medicinal questions but just for fun, purely for recreation. However, health questions do still remain. Is marijuana safe and more effective than other drugs?

I asked CNN chief medical correspondent Sanjay Gupta what this drug can do that other medications cannot.


DR. SANJAY GUPTA, CNN CHIEF MEDICAL CORRESPONDENT: First thing you want to know, is it safe and there's been, you know, plenty of studies now looking at longer term use particularly for adults, particularly in adults, and particularly if you don't smoke it because the smoking itself can cause some damage to the lungs. But overall, the safety data has been pretty good and it's pretty effective for lots of different things, nausea, for example, increasing appetite and people who have HIV/AIDS or getting chemotherapy. So there's different uses.

But now they're saying, you know, with regard to pain in particular, and it's a pain called neuropathic pain. That's that sort of pins and needles, sort of stinging pain in your arms and legs. That type of pain is hard to treat. I can tell you we get patients like this at the hospital all the time. This appears to be a good -- possibly a good medication to treat that where other things is have not worked or in combination with opioid medication.

So there is some use for it where the need has not been met so far.

KAYE: That is some good news.


KAYE: What about the new legislation? I mean, how will it work and do you think some doctors might have some challenges with this new law?

GUPTA: You know, it's funny. In L.A. County, a number of years ago, they estimated there are more marijuana dispensaries than there were liquor stores in L.A. County. So, I know, I mean, who knows where this sort of goes.

But the way it's supposed to work is the patient goes to the doctor. If they meet one of the indications, you know, things that we talk about that marijuana can be prescribed for, they can get a prescription and dispensary card. And then in the states that have these medical marijuana dispensaries, you take the card there and you get your marijuana.

The thing about the conditions is they have several of those things listed but then they have at the bottom other conditions that the physician thinks, you know, marijuana could be helpful with and that obviously leaves it much wider open and I think that's one of the things that critics of this have been raising.

KAYE: Yes. It's sort of confusing, I think.

GUPTA: It's not very -- there's not a lot of guidelines here --

KAYE: Right.

GUPTA: -- because you leave so many open areas where people can prescribe it. The question is, does that get abused? And if so, you know, how do you address that? So I think that's where the debate sort of goes.

KAYE: What about the news that there's this type of marijuana being grown in Israel that has all the medicinal benefits but it doesn't actually get you high?

GUPTA: Right.

KAYE: What do you nobody this?

GUPTA: You know, quite a bit. We've been researching this and, you know, for some time, there's been this idea of juicing the marijuana plant, so taking out some of the juices of the plant and particularly a substance known as CBD. THC is what gets people high. So it's not the THC coming out.

And when they juiced the plants, they found it could still have significant medicinal benefits. So, now, in Israel, what you're talking about, they're actually creating these plants that have higher dosage of the CBD for this express purpose. So, it doesn't give you the high, but it gives you a lot of the medical properties.

THC itself does have some medical properties.

KAYE: Right.

GUPTA: But you can get a lot as you point out from other parts of the plant and that's what's happening over there. That's controversial over there. You know, it's all -- there's nothing -- it's like the third rail of medical reporting.


KAYE: -- you mentioned it.

GUPTA: Yes, exactly.

KAYE: I guess we'll see where this goes. You'll be following it, right?

GUPTA: Well, cool. I'll be back. We'll talk more.

KAYE: OK. Sanjay, thank you. >

GUPTA: Thank you.


KAYE: Tyler Perry breaks away from his comfort zone playing Madea and steps into the world of Alex Cross. Creator and author James Patterson tells us why he loves working with Tyler Perry.

And in this week's travel insider, CNN's Elise Labott gives us a tour of a special kind of market in Jerusalem.


ELISE LABOTT, CNN FOREIGN AFFAIRS CORRESPONDENT: Jerusalem's old city is famous for its history and culture. But I love to come to the Mahane Yehuda Market on Jaffa Street. This is where you're going to find the real taste and smells of Israel.

Outside the market, you have the freshest fruits and vegetables. The produce in this country is really incredible.

And inside the market, they have all these breads and sweets and dried fruits and nuts and all these great nibbly things that they call bissets (ph) here. There's also a whole alley of different restaurants where people can come and eat lunch.

But the thing I like the most about this market is you can find Israelis and Palestinians from all walks of life here. No matter what the divisions are in this country, everyone can agree on one thing: good food. Elise Labott, CNN, Jerusalem.



KAYE: Move over, Madea. Tyler Perry has a new character in his life and his name is Alex Cross.


JAMES PATTERSON AS ALEX CROSS: Let me see your hands. Let me see your hands. Put down the gun. Put down the weapon now. Do it now. Is this what you want to die doing? Drop the gun.


KAYE: There would be no Alex Cross, of course, without American author and novelist James Patterson. His books have sold an estimated 260 million worldwide and writing isn't the only thing that he has dedicated his life to. He sat down and told our Nadia Bilchik his real passion.


NADIA BILCHIK, CNN EDITORIAL PRODUCER: Welcome. It's great pleasure to see you again albeit virtually this time.

JAMES PATTERSON, AUTHOR: Thank you, thank you, thank you.

BILCHIK: So Tyler Perry has been interviewed great deal recently and he said there's only one reason for doing "Alex Cross" the movie and that is because of you, James Patterson.

For you, why Tyler Perry?

PATTERSON: One of two reasons -- one is Tyler Perry. I love the idea of working with him. He's talented and devoted, and is hard- working man.

And the other thing is I love the character Alex Cross. He's hard-working. He's unbelievably talented. He does what he says he's going do.

And I thought he was terrific in the movie. He went out of character. He did something that was -- that stretched him, which I applaud. And I think that people -- you know, most people have seen the movie. I think he did a great job. And I'm one of them.

BILCHIK: As your 14-year-old son Jack, first of all, has he seen the movie? What did the think of it?

PATTERSON: Yes, he thought it was good. He's like most people. He found it very intense and very entertaining, and he thought -- he thought Tyler did a very good job. He thought Matthew Fox was great too. BILCHIK: I'm always intrigued by you, because you have the ability to get into the head of a detective, psychopath, a middle schooler and now recently a teenager who's been accused of murdering her parents. Why don't you tell us a bit about that book?

PATTERSON: Yes. "Confessions of a Murder Suspect" -- it's very interesting. It's the first book -- mystery that I've written for teenagers, so that's very different. It seems to be a book that both adults and kids enjoy because it's a very twisty murder mystery that involves the murder of two parents in a household and the four suspects are the children.

BILCHIK: James, you have 19 number one best-selling consecutive novels. You are in the "Guinness Book of World Records" as the best- selling novelist in hard cover, fiction, and yet you've told me before that that is not what your real passion. Won't you share what is it?

PATTERSON: I write a lot of kids' books and that's really my passion writing for kids.

BILCHIK: How can we get our kids to read more?

PATTERSON: Look, it's really simple. If you're watching and you're a parent or grand parent, you have to understand if your kid isn't reading, you've got to take a lot of the fault. People always come up to me and go, I can't get my kid reading. And I go, did you get them to the dinner table? They go, yes. Well, then, you can get them reading. You just have to insist on it in the house.

BILCHIK: Well, James Patterson, thank you. Thank you for keeping me personally entertained over the last week or so. I think I've read 20 or so of your books.

PATTERSON: Look forward to watching myself on CNN.

BILCHIK: Thank you.


KAYE: Running out of patience as power outages continue after superstorm Sandy. We'll tell you just how many are still living in the dark.


KAYE: Breaking news just in to CNN: Israeli soldiers have fired warning shots toward Syria today. It was retaliation for a mortar shell that hit near an Israeli military post. The Israeli-Syrian border isn't too far from Damascus. Israel's military says they've issued a complaint through United Nations as well.

And the other big story we're following: new details now on the resignation of CIA Director David Petraeus. An official tells CNN that National Security Director James Clapper was informed Tuesday evening, election night. Then the president was told Thursday. We also know that the FBI investigation was triggered by supposed harassing emails sent by Petraeus biographer Paula Broadwell to another woman close to him.

And on a lighter note, let's turn to politics and "Saturday Night Live" for some laughs.


UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I still love you, America, I do. But you've hurt my feelings very, very much.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Father -- hello, father.


UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I'm so very angry, father. I wish I could punch America in the face. I do, I tell you.



KAYE: I'll be back at the top of the hour at 8:00 a.m. Eastern Time. First, "SANJAY GUPTA, M.D." begins right now.