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PIERS MORGAN TONIGHT
Interview with Jack Hanna
Aired November 24, 2012 - 21:00 ET
THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY BE UPDATED.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: OK, stand by, Piers.
PIERS MORGAN, HOST: Things have got pretty wild with some of my guests but nothing quite like this.
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MORGAN: What the hell's that?
My studio's turned into a jungle. Whoa!
Jack, am I going to die here? Oh, my God, what's this?
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MORGAN: Tonight, the one and only Jack Hanna and a few of his closest friends.
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JACK HANNA, DIRECTOR EMERITUS, COLUMBUS ZOO: He defecates on his legs to keep them cool.
MORGAN: You know what, Jack? Too much information.
HANNA: If he bites you, it won't hurt bad. But --
MORGAN: You know what? You just hang on to the animals for now, Jack.
HANNA: You won't believe this. This is the only one in the world to carry leprosy.
MORGAN: Now you tell me.
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MORGAN: Never quite know what will happen next when Jack Hanna's in the house.
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MORGAN: He's got my notes.
HANNA: I'm sorry. Is that your notes? (END VIDEO CLIP)
MORGAN: This is a very dangerous edition of PIERS MORGAN TONIGHT.
MORGAN: Good evening and welcome to a special PIERS MORGAN TONIGHT.
As you can see, the studio looks a little different tonight, and trust me, so will my guests that will be here over the course of the hour, we're talking, cheetahs, foxes, owls, Komodo dragons and these little chaps, there friendly little tigers.
I'm here, of course, with Jack Hanna, where anything can happen in the world of Jack Hanna. He's the director emeritus of the Columbus Zoo and Aquarium and the Wild. He's also the host of the Emmy-winning "Jack Hanna Into the Wild" and a new show called "Wild Countdown," and his tigers are literally eating my studio.
So we'd better get on with it, because it can be quite frightening.
Jack, am I going to die here?
HANNA: No. You shouldn't die but if you were going to die, these are the animals that would do it but no--
MORGAN: These are baby tigers, right?
HANNA: Yes, yes --
MORGAN: How old are they?
HANNA: These are Siberian tigers, 13 weeks, can you imagine?
MORGAN: At what age can they kill a man?
HANNA: Well, I'll tell you, about another 22 months
HANNA: Because in about 22 months, these animals weigh over 600 pounds.
HANNA: Yes. These are one of the rarest cats in the world, Piers. They are less than -- some people say 400, it could be 200 left in Siberia, that part of the world.
There were hunted for their coat, but the problem is today is, the fact that you can imagine that animal is 600 pounds -- MORGAN: But they look strong already.
HANNA: Oh, they are very strong. There could literally put a hole through your arm, right now.
MORGAN: Because they -- right.
HANNA: But yes.
MORGAN: Looks like he wants to.
MORGAN: Can they bite?
HANNA: Oh, yes, they can bite. Yes, they learn from each other, and these animals are on what we call the Species Survival Plan, with the American Zoo Association - Aquarium (ph) Association and what they already have, they have chips in them.
So this animal in about another of it could be about in another three to six months could go to a zoo in Europe, Australia, wherever it might be, that's an accredited zoo for the gene pool them all fresh, because the thing is, that these animals are so rare that we had to know exactly what the breeding program will be for the creature.
MORGAN: Why are you not remotely scared of them?
HANNA: No, it's not a matter of -- you know, that's a good question. People ask me about scared. If I find myself afraid or scared, that means I'm doing the wrong thing.
Now, these guys know about the animals from the Columbus zoo, by the way, where they were born, but they know the animals very well. So, you know, I've been around them, I don't raise them like these guys do. But having raised tigers, my wife and I have raised tigers, lions, leopards -- everything in our 40 years of marriage, and so we kind of know cats when you do that much.
But that tongue -- you see how he is licking me?
HANNA: If that were a full-grown tiger Piers, in less than 10 minutes, he can lick me and just lick my arm to the bone. That's how rough that tongue becomes.
HANNA: Like sand paper beyond you've ever seen.
MORGAN: How -- I mean, when they get to full size -- how many of these are there left in the world?
HANNA: Maybe 200 to 400, that's all. MORGAN: That's all there is.
HANNA: All there is.
MORGAN: So these are literally like two of the --
HANNA: Yes, there are usually --
MORGAN: Last remaining Siberian tigers.
HANNA: Yes, in the zoo world, we do quite well with them. Remember something, when a tiger like this takes down like in India -- the Bengal tiger, I've seen them take down a water buffalo in less than 10 seconds.
It's like a bomb going off.
HANNA: It's beyond anything, like a grenade going off inside something. And they are all so the only cats in the world that when they -- they can eat up to 30,40 pounds at one sitting, even the stomach can explode sometimes and kill the animal.
Plus, they eat putrefied meat, most cats like lions will not eat putrefied meat. They'll bury the carcass.
MORGAN: What do you feed them with?
HANNA: Well this is a special diet we have for the -- for the cats.
You heard that little growling there, right?
MORGAN: I did hear that little growling.
HANNA: When you hear that in the wild, I tell you what? Your pants won't be dry.
MORGAN: My pants aren't really dry at the moment, Jack. I can tell you that. They may be small, but they are -- I mean, when they are this close, they are quite big.
HANNA: Yes, you see -- you'll appreciate now. See, that's what being here with you means a lot means to us because now -- because of millions of people you reach, Piers, you know are seeing one of the rarest creatures in the world, and you can see the power we're talking about --
MORGAN: Yes, I can.
HANNA: You can also see the beauty of the animal. So it would be a tragedy to see this animal go into extinction. Like, for example, there are several tiger species that have gone into extinction, and that's not what we want to happen with these cats here. MORGAN: Well, that it would be a tragedy but even a bigger tragedy would be if one of them ate me live in air, so I'm going to move on quite swiftly
HANNA: They wouldn't do it.
MORGAN: Nice to me the Tiger Cubs.
HANNA: They are born at the Columbus zoo, by the way, about 13 weeks ago.
MORGAN: Very impressive animals.
Now, we're going to bring on -- now, what is this?
HANNA: All right. This cat here, Piers, is something that -- that you can even hold this cat, probably.
If he bites you, it won't hurt bad but--
MORGAN: You know want? You just hang on to the animals for now, Jack.
HANNA: This right here is called a caracal. Now, if you ever been to Egypt, in Egypt in the tombs, in the pyramids --
MORGAN: Like a Sphinx.
MORGAN: Like a Sphinx face.
HANNA: Almost right, because the pharaohs used to try and domesticate these animals thousands of years ago
MORGAN: Jack, he's biting your arm.
HANNA: Yes, but this animal gets to be -- this animal gets to be -- you saw how big the tigers were? Full-grown, that's about, they won't get that thick. You can see how thin it is. But look at the ears of this cat.
HANNA: You see why the pharaohs and they not only worship the animal, but those animals, they represented royalty back then. And I'm sure a lot of people lost their hands and stuff trying to domesticate this creature.
But this -- what's unique about this cat, this is one of the only cats in the world that can jump 10 feet in the air and catch a bird flying.
MORGAN: Ten feet?
HANNA: If they get down in the grass -- I have only seen these twice in the wild. They come out and they blend so well in the grass. They don't live in the jungle, they live out in the plains, like Kenya, Tanzania, that part of the world, and they don't exist much hardly up in Egypt anymore.
But they lay down in there and watch for a bird and they go plopping up like that, because of their back legs there is so much power in them.
MORGAN: But 10 feet is like --
HANNA: Oh, I know it's amazing. They can grab the bird flying by.
HANNA: It's called the caracal cat, again. Look at those ears. That's what kind of gives them away as far as you know --
MORGAN: Yes, very interesting.
HANNA: -- when you're in the jungle.
HANNA: It's only a youngster, though.
MORGAN: What's next? You've got the --
MORGAN: What are these? The --
HANNA: Now, this is amazing, they -- I did not know they have this one on. This is a serval cat.
HANNA: This cat also is a cat which make sure you get (INAUDIBLE) -- this also is a cat that is from Africa. And this cat also has - the front legs and hind legs are different lengths. These are the only cat -- well, the only few other cats in the world that can catch a bird in free flight.
This animal also has -- if you look at the back of the ears, if we can show them, that's right here, you notice these spots on the back of his ears -- ow! You see that? Those are called eye-spots.
See the spots?
MORGAN: He wants to eat your hand.
HANNA: If this cat is sitting there eating something, another like a hyena or something comes up, he thinks he's looking backwards and hence they called those eye-spots.
MORGAN: How tame are these by comparison to a purely wild version?
HANNA: No, right now, as far as tame, this animal won't become a tame animal. We've raised these animals, a lot of times if they don't -- if their mothers don't raise them or whoever it might be, we raise them, then they go back and be -- you know, they're still wild animals. People have to -- I had a very famous trainer tell me once, you can usually train a wild animal but never tame a wild animal, ever. They are always going to be wild, no matter what anybody says.
MORGAN: OK, what is this, a vulture?
HANNA: This is an Egyptian vulture. Whoops, dropped a thing here. Come here, buddy.
MORGAN: What are you feeding it? Raw meat.
HANNA: Raw meat, yes. Come here, come here, come on, come on. He - notice the smell too, Piers.
MORGAN: You're actually feeding the vulture raw meat?
HANNA: Oh, yes.
MORGAN: So they really do just eat raw meat?
HANNA: Yes, they eat raw meat, but no that if you -- can you smell him?
If you don't mind.
MORGAN: Yes, I can smell him. Yes.
HANNA: You smell that?
MORGAN: It stinks.
HANNA: Now, what yes, what he what he does, he defecates on his legs to keep him cool.
MORGAN: You know what, Jack? Too much information. You know, there are certain things I don't have to do about. I quite liked these vultures until you told me that.
HANNA: But that's why they smell. Plus, their head is bald because he gets down in the guts of it.
MORGAN: So they are ugly. They stink. They eat raw meat.
MORGAN: Tell me one good thing about the vulture?
HANNA: Well, one good thing is, they keep the earth --
MORGAN: One useful contribution to society, other than the defecation, and the feeding on carcasses and the terrible smell. HANNA: No. They are good. They clean up all the mess that the other animals don't eat. But just -- but guess what? This animal does though.
MORGAN: So, they're like a kind of vacuum cleaner.
HANNA: The vacuum cleaner.
HANNA: But it also takes a rock. He can take a rock and open it. One of the few birds in the world can take a rock and open an ostrich egg. He uses a tool to do that.
MORGAN: Extraordinary. Oh my God! What's this?
HANNA: Now, remember you do the story with me --
MORGAN: I do.
HANNA: -- two months ago, right?
MORGAN: About alligators killing people, yes
HANNA: You want to go at that?
HANNA: It's OK with me. I don't need--
MORGAN: All right, mate. How far -- yes, thank you.
HANNA: No, no, they can do --
MORGAN: No, no, no.
HANNA: Oh you're smart doing that. You know why I say that, don't you? Because --
MORGAN: It's going to eat me, yes.
HANNA: -- on the ground -- on the ground, Piers, what they can do is they can actually jump off their four feet and outrun any human being on earth the first 20 yards.
MORGAN: You're serious.
HANNA: Yes, they are fast. But not -- this one is a nice one. If you look here, they have two eyelids.
MORGAN: What do you mean a nice one?
HANNA: If you look there, they've got two eyelids. I think you see this.
MORGAN: How do you tell a nice alligator? HANNA: I don't mean nice. I don't mean nice. That's not fair.
HANNA: They have two eyelids.
MORGAN: This could kill me, right?
HANNA: Yes, but he's not going to right now.
MORGAN: How do you know?
HANNA: I don't know that for sure, but I don't think he should.
You know what, I want to show you something. Not many people can do this. But, Grant here does a great job with this alligator. He's going to show you -- if you have ever seen alligators -- down his throat?
MORGAN: No, I haven't lately.
HANNA: No. It's hard to this.
MORGAN: Jeez, whoa!
HANNA: The power. No I want you to -- the cameras can see this, you can see it. Where's the camera?
Hey, look down the throat, everyone.
HANNA: You see -- see that? You can see down the throat like most animals, right?
MORGAN: There's no throat.
HANNA: It's flat back there, right. That allows the alligator to go under water, open his mouth without choking on water. So if a fish or something comes around, like this, swims around here, oh, that's a cave, let's go in there -- bam! It's quicker. They don't -- they don't, if you remember the interview, they don't chew, they tear.
MORGAN: Yes, I certainly remember that.
HANNA: The sensors -- the sensors over here, he has sensors on the side of his head. They have sensors --
MORGAN: Let's try and humanize him. What's his name?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Curly (ph).
MORGAN: How old do they live to be?
HANNA: Oh gosh! Up to 75 to 100 years old. They can go up to a year without ever eating.
MORGAN: And all alligators, are they natural predators? I mean, would they attack if they're not challenged or scared?
HANNA: Yes and no. Not scared, but if you go around an alligator with youngsters - well, they lay eggs, by the way. If you get next to an alligator's nest, not knowing it, those eggs are in the ground there, and they don't sit right there like a bird on a nest. There are over here, OK. If you get near it, it's one of the most aggressive animals in nature. You are gone, if you get near an alligator's nest.
They lay about 20, 30 eggs, and the sex of the alligator is determined by the heat of the nest. I'm not sure if the male's hot or -- what is it?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The male is hot.
HANNA: If it's a real hot nest, the eggs will be males. That -- this is -- the gator also -- we found - we have done research, we found board, cans, tubes, everything inside these creatures, because they -- when they get hungry, they just take apart anything.
MORGAN: Ever found human remains inside of Curly?
HANNA: No. No, but I've done shows in Malaysia where you wouldn't believe what some of these -- the crocodiles get to be 21, 22, 23, 24 feet long, over 2,000 pounds. You're talking about something much bigger than your stage here.
MORGAN: I think we should go quickly to a commercial break.
HANNA: You want to hold it?
MORGAN: I don't want to hold Curly. No.
MORGAN: No. I think we're into a no-touching zone on this show.
When we come back, you're going to show us some happy feet penguins, Jack. And, one of the oldest animals in the world.
But first, here is one of Jack's top five, animal close encounters, with a puff adder.
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HANNA: What are you doing?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I'm demonstrating how the eyes are fixed on movement and how they don't want to hurt anyone.
HANNA: Oh my God.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: They can't see you. They can smell you.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: But you don't classify as food. So you're not on the menu and pretty safe.
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MORGAN: I'm back with the closest thing to a living Dr. Doolittle, and it is Jack Hanna.
He's introducing some of his furry friends for tonight. It's a bit of a ridiculous description, given that we've crocodiles and tigers -- anyway, let's pretend that they're furry friends.
No this is a bit more like it. This is a nice friendly looking penguin.
HANNA: Yes, this is a black-footed penguin, and sometimes-- if you're ever on a game show and someone asks you, how many species of penguin? You say 17. But the saying is, only five live in cold weather, only five out of 17. All the rest of them live in warm weather, like --
HANNA: This is -- yes, people don't realize it. This --
MORGAN: That's fascinating.
HANNA: This is from South Africa. It's called the black footed penguin or the jackass penguin, because it brays like a donkey.
And then there's penguins in Australia, Galapagos Island, South Africa, and these are -- this one, by the way, was put on the endangered species list just last July.
MORGAN: How many penguins are left in the world?
HANNA: Quite a few. Except this one is not. This one is from South Africa, which is listed as endangered about a year ago.
And it's an animal -- they don't really eat the penguin, by the way. They collect the eggs and the feathers off of penguins. But the animals also have a - (inaudible) a lot of things, a lot of problems there. But they are more feathers per square inch than any bird in the world, the penguin does.
MORGAN: What is your favorite animal?
HANNA: My wife. That's pretty funny -- she's not here. So who cares? MORGAN: But if I could say look, Jack, you'll live the rest of your life on a desert island with one animal, what would it be?
HANNA: You know, having raised animals all my life for 50- something years, I would say that you know, I'm fascinated by cats. We've raised all kinds of cats.
The elephant I think is -- I think the elephant -- we'll soon find out the elephant is one of the most intelligent animals in the world, more than even primates.
MORGAN: If you could only have one. What would you have?
HANNA: A one! Wow! Whew! I'd have to say, you know --
MORGAN: You could have a few of them, but it has to be the same thing.
HANNA: Yes, yes, you would have to say an elephant is fascinating, but again, we have --
MORGAN: A herd of elephants
HANNA: Yes, we have -- we see a herd of elephants in Africa, it's a phenomenal.
MORGAN: Quite something else, isn't it?
HANNA: Well, it's the second-largest mammal in the world. In 1978, there were about 1.4 million. Today, we're down to less than 375,000.
HANNA: So it's a major drop.
MORGAN: Well, it's nice to meet you, penguin.
HANNA: Go back.
MORGAN: Let's bring out the next animal, which is a gigantic tortoise.
HANNA: Yes. We can put him up here. Thank you, Jimmy. Yes. I'll hold him.
MORGAN: What's his name?
Oh, no --
HANNA: I'm sorry, the tortoise. This is Slowpoke, this one is.
MORGAN: It's probably very slow on what (ph) it will do (ph), right?
HANNA: Yes. This animal is a kind of tortoise from the Seychelles in Northern Africa. This animal gets to be about 150 pounds full grown.
MORGAN: He's magnificent, isn't he?
HANNA: Yes, they really are. Of course what you just said is amazing, because that's what's wrong. A turtle shell, we know what happens there, jewelry all sorts of things. Now, this one is a protected species.
HANNA: I'm going to show you. Oh my gosh.
MORGAN: What's this one?
HANNA: Put that one up there. Good Lord!
HANNA: No wonder you get to hold -- how did you pick the thing up?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I don't know.
HANNA: This is an Aldabra tortoise, second-largest tortoise in the world, up to 500 pounds.
MORGAN: Who would win if they had a fight?
HANNA: Oh, this one here. It's much bigger, yes.
HANNA: You know, these things can leave over 100 -- as a matter of fact what it was 200 years?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Two hundred.
MORGAN: Two hundred years old
HANNA: Yes, yes.
The sailors back in the 1500s, 1600s, 1700s, they would take these tortoises and put them in the holds of the ship because it could last for six months to a year without water or food or nothing, and that provided them meat.
MORGAN: No water, no food?
HANNA: No food, nothing. They live that long, but I tell you what, that ship must have stunk.
HANNA: But these are the animals, a neat creature again. MORGAN: He's heavy, right?
HANNA: Yes. This one here is a male. I think this one is a male, too.
HANNA: Because the bottom of the shell is flat.
MORGAN: Amazing animals.
HANNA: Thank you.
MORGAN: Really amazing
HANNA: The tortoise and the hare. They are they are not really that slow. Some people think they're that slow, but they are not that slow.
MORGAN: How fast can they actually be if they really wanted to?
HANNA: Last night, this one was crawling around the hotel room, and like across the room like in 10 seconds.
MORGAN: You had him in your hotel room?
HANNA: Well, you ain't seen nothing. We got the alligator in the bathtub.
HANNA: Yes. We got-
MORGAN: Jack, are you slightly mad? Be honest?
HANNA: I would tell you-
MORGAN: When you look in the mirror when you've got your alligator in the bathtub and you've got these tortoises in your bed, do you think, Jack, you may not be the full ticket here.
HANNA: You won't believe this. You want to do this one?
MORGAN: What is this one?
HANNA: This is a little wallaby, right? Smallest - you've heard of kangaroo, right?
MORGAN: Right, so they are Australians, right?
MORGAN: What the hell's that? My set has turned into a jungle. Whoa, whoa. What is that?
HANNA: Wait, let me finish the wallaby, I didn't finish the wallaby yet.
MORGAN: Who is this?
HANNA: You do it. Make him do it.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: OK.
HANNA: Oh how I love this. I get (inaudible), and my wife and I just sit home sometimes.
MORGAN: What is this, though? What is this?
HANNA: A laughing kookaburra from Australia.
MORGAN: A laughing kookaburra
HANNA: Yes but -- make him laugh again
Oh, surely that doesn't crack you up?
MORGAN: That's hilarious.
HANNA: When you're out there sometimes in the bushes, like my first time in Australia and this goes off at two o'clock in the morning, you jump out of your sleep at night. You say what in the heck is that thing?
This is a kookaburra though, a laughing kookaburra
HANNA: A lot of people have kookaburra -- they like the show. (INAUDIBLE)
HANNA: No, you talk -- check in the hotel -- check in the hotels. We put them in the room. That's the wallaby, I don't know what happened here. The wallaby, this is one of the smallest marsupials, and the problem is the smallest marsupial - not the smallest marsupial, like the kangaroo, a wallaby is like there are 30 different types of wallaby. And these animals are just very small. The big kangaroo like gray and red kangaroos, are like -- they stand up like five or six feet tall, what do you call them like a big flock of geese or a herd of cattle, what do you call like a big bunch of kangaroos?
MORGAN: I have no idea.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: A mob of kangaroos.
MORGAN: Yeah, a mob. I know Australia, it will be a mob, to a Brit.
HANNA: Thank you. So they eat grass and they are-
MORGAN: The wallaby seems quite calm in comparison to the rest of these nutcases.
HANNA: I love that bird, though.
MORGAN: This is like a -- wow
HANNA: No this is a -- one of the pre-historic animals on earth, this one right here.
HANNA: You've got the batteries?
MORGAN: What is this?
HANNA: This right here is a three-banded armadillo.
MORGAN: You say are there batteries in it?
HANNA: That's a joke. I'm going to put him (inaudible).
HANNA: This animal here is a three-banded armadillo. You see that there, one, two, three.
Now, what you're looking at --
MORGAN: What is this?
HANNA: A three-banded armadillo. Now this animal here, there are armadillos in our country, by the way that are seven banded, nine banded, 11 banded armadillos. And people eat the armadillo in this country as well
HANNA: But in South America, they are almost the most endangered animals there, because they cook it like a taco. So when you're over there, the natives over there, the people that live there, they cook it like this. But he's also the only armadillo in the world that can close up so tight so that only -- not even an ant can penetrate that. Only man and a jaguar, the big cat, can kill it.
MORGAN: That's amazing.
HANNA: It's also - touch it, feel how hard it is. You won't believe this. This is the only animal in the world that carries leprosy.
MORGAN: Now you tell me!
HANNA: No, that was the old days, I hope.
MORGAN: What do you mean you hope?
HANNA: I'm just telling you. MORGAN: If you'd just given me leprosy, (inaudible), Jack.
HANNA: No, I know, but in all seriousness, you think I'm joking about that, look it up when you go back to your room, or not your room but.
MORGAN: I believe you.
HANNA: Yes, it carries leprosy.
MORGAN: I'd just rather you tell me before I touched them.
HANNA: I forgot to tell you that before you touched it. I really did. I usually tell people before they touch it.
HANNA: Because some people don't want to touch it.
Here, look at this, here, go ahead, buddy, go ahead.
MORGAN: OK, we need to take a break while I have a leprosy test.
Next, the animal responsible for the worst fight of Jack's life.
HANNA: Oh gosh!
MORGAN: Can you guess what it was?
We'll find out after the break.
But first another of Jack's top-five animal close encounters, with you won't be surprised to hear, lions.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: (INAUDIBLE)
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: (INAUDIBLE) one of the males left
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Oh you can see they are actually going to gang up on us because he's almost entire (INAUDIBLE).
HANNA: Did you say they are going to gang up on us?
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MORGAN: Back now with Jack Hanna. The director emeritus of the Columbus Zoo, and as you can see he has brought some more company -- a snow leopard.
HANNA: Yes, it really is.
MORGAN: A frisky one. HANNA: Piers, this is why it's most fascinating for me. You asked about the elephant and the leopards -- but he'll get to about four times the size. They live in the Himalayas, the snow leopard.
MORGAN: How many are left in the world?
HANNA: Well, some people say a thousand, some people -- I've heard 500 because they live in altitudes, as you know, way up there in the Himalayas.
MORGAN: When there are so few of them, how do they find another one to mate with?
HANNA: Well, that's just it. That's exactly -- good point. They are solitary cats. So, when she cycles, there's not enough of them to even find another cat.
MORGAN: Can be mix mate with other breeds?
HANNA: No, no. Not up there. They wouldn't up there, and you know, lion and tiger we know that's been done before, but not the other cats that I know of.
This tail here, for example, that tail, you can touch it if you want to.
The tail here it gets that's much bigger, like this thick, because up there, it's 40, 50 below zero or whatever. This -
HANNA: Wow wee!
HANNA: That was cool, wasn't it?
MORGAN: That was very cool. Yes
HANNA: I'm sorry you don't have a hand there. I don't know who your cameraman is.
HANNA: Please don't sue me. Anyway --
MORGAN: That one --
HANNA: Anyway, this animal will take -- this animal takes his tail and wraps surround him, Piers, all the way around him like you in a jacket to keep his face warm.
MORGAN: Yes. HANNA: And those ears are very short because they will obviously freeze up there. But this cat also has fur on the bottom of their feet. They can jump like 30, 40 feet -- I mean, they can jump a lot up there, but look at this --
MORGAN: He likes to operate in the cold, right?
HANNA: Oh, the colder, the better for this cat.
MORGAN: So how does he deal with, you know, being in New York and what is a reasonably high temperature?
HANNA: Well we keep, we always keep him in air-conditioning wherever the cat goes.
MORGAN: Where do you keep him at night?
HANNA: In the hotel room. I'm not saying --
MORGAN: Are you serious?
HANNA: I'm dead serious, yes. I wouldn't lie about something like that. These animals have it better than we have it.
MORGAN: Do you sleep?
HANNA: Not much during the night. They don't sleep at all, but they put me in a -- you know, another room.
MORGAN: Do you ever get scared? No? Not at all?
HANNA: This coat, the sad thing about this coat, Piers, on the black market, this coat right now, if you can even find one, a guy got caught in Europe last year, $80,000. That's what's so sad, $80,000.
MORGAN: For this coat?
HANNA: This coat right here, this one animal.
MORGAN: See, that's a tragedy, isn't it?
HANNA: Yes. It really is. Today, it is. You know, back in the old days is one thing but today, it's useless.
This animal, you could touch --
MORGAN: It's beautiful, yes.
HANNA: It's absolutely beyond any animal that I've worked with. The snow leopard is absolutely magnificent. It represents really what endangered species are all about.
MORGAN: Yes. Absolutely beautiful.
MORGAN: What a shame that it's a --
HANNA: It really is.
MORGAN: In a few years, it could be all over.
HANNA: Yes, all gone, yes.
Because right now -- he also goes on -- he has a chip in him, so he'll go in the SSP with the American Zoo Association.
MORGAN: This the slightly uglier end of the market.
HANNA: No. Not -- this is an animal, Piers, right here that has been used by our sailors and pioneers years ago, the beaver, no.
MORGAN: This is the beaver that bit your hand off --
HANNA: This is not the same beaver, but this is like the one that did it. He is exactly like this.
But you ever touch a beaver?
HANNA: Well -- that's a dumb question.
MORGAN: Is it wise, being that you had your --
HANNA: No you're -- back here you can touch him. I just picked him up wrong way is all I did it one time yes.
MORGAN: A bit rougher.
HANNA: Yes, exactly. Right. But the beaver is a unique animal.
You see the tail here? The tail is what people hear the beaver. You talk about the beaver slapping the water, this is why the animal --
MORGAN: Like an alligator, that.
MORGAN: Is a happy with that apple, or is he looking at little bit more?
HANNA: Oh, he wants more to eat, yes. Just don't put your hand there.
MORGAN: They eat meat?
HANNA: No, no. Just he won't know your hands. He will think your hand is an apple or something.
MORGAN: Right, that's really comforting.
HANNA: For this tail -- this tail slaps the water, Piers, and that warns other animals in the area.
MORGAN: He stinks too, Jack.
HANNA: How do you know?
HANNA: Can you smell him?
MORGAN: I can smell it. He absolutely stinks.
HANNA: Did he go to the bathroom?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: No, it was me.
HANNA: All right. You usually don't smell it, and you go to the bathroom when it smells.
MORGAN: But a beaver like this nearly bit your finger off, right?
HANNA: Yes, the whole thumb here, the whole thing, yes. I just -- I did with all the other animals, the big --
MORGAN: The worst injury you've had?
HANNA: One of the worst yes, yes. I've been sat on by an elephant and had a few things happen. But again, 99 percent of the time there is an accident, it's the person's fault.
HANNA: Not the animal's fault.
Look at this -- back foot there real quick, I don't know if he'll let you do that
It's a webbed foot, see, like a duck almost.
HANNA: It's a webbed foot, it's what it is. That back foot. But that's how they swim and they also they are cute beavers, so -- do you have beavers in England?
MORGAN: I think so, yes.
All right. Calm down, mate.
HANNA: (INAUDIBLE) the beaver
Oh, look at him. I don't think he likes the look at me.
What have we got here?
HANNA: Now, what you have here is very rare. I have never done this on a show before.
There's all kinds of fox, red fox, gray fox. This right here is a Fennec fox, smallest one in the world, in the Sahara desert.
This animal has big ears because it's not just to hear with, it has blood vessels in their ears, it keeps them cool.
MORGAN: Look how massive it is.
HANNA: It keeps them cool in a desert, like a dog has a tongue.
HANNA: Your temperature is 98.6. The elephant has big ears to keep it cool.
HANNA: But this little animal here, it can go its whole life in the desert without ever drinking water because he's like -- a scorpion, snakes, lizards, all --
MORGAN: Without ever drinking water?
HANNA: Yes, because he's -- water can come from what he eats.
MORGAN: He eats -- he eats insects and spiders that have water in them.
HANNA: Yes, in them.
HANNA: Those big scorpions you've seen, that's what he loves to eat.
This is called the fennec fox, the smallest fox in the world, Sahara Desert in northern Africa.
This fox here, this is the -- which was, that one?
Both these, right?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes, the mother died.
HANNA: Oh, this is my -- OK. The swift fox, which is one of the rarest -- it's very endangered in our country It can go 30 to 40 miles an hour, the fastest fox in the world. It's full grown -- this one right here. They are very social creatures. They take care of the sick, the old and the young first. When you say, cunning like a fox, you've heard that term, cunning like a fox?
HANNA: These things are bright. I want to show you, the swift fox in this country, very few people get to see and the smallest fox in the world.
HANNA: Thank you, guys.
Beautiful animals in Columbus zoo.
This right here though, this, Piers, is the largest owl in the world -- the Eurasian Eagle Owl.
MORGAN: The biggest owl in the world?
HANNA: Yes, and if you ever ask the question on a game show, again give me half the money if you get this.
What animal is found on every continent except Antarctica? Or what species of animal is found in every continent except Antarctica? Is this species of owl. This is the largest in the world. This is not even full-grown yet.
HANNA: I wish you could -- you want to hold him?
You can hold him.
MORGAN: No. I'll let your guy hold this one.
HANNA: But one thing you want to do is have a glove first. You see those talons right there?
HANNA: Focus on his feet, and I'll get a camera on his feet here a second.
All right, a bald eagle, you ever heard of a bald eagle, right? A bald eagle has 1,000 pounds of pressure per square inch. This guy is pretty big.
If that was a bald eagle on his arm, it would go through his skin, through his skin, in his muscle, break his bone in a split second. That's how powerful the talons are.
Not that that would ever happen, but they are powerful. No what is the owl turn -- see there?
HANNA: Like a corkscrew, right? The reason for that is, his eyes are so big they cannot move in his eye socket.
So look here, if you see a pretty girl go by, you'd go like this without your wife seeing you, like this.
HANNA: Like this with eyeballs. Well, he can't do that because his eyes are so big, he has to move his whole head around. Now, he can't turn all the way around or his head will fall off, but he can go almost all the way around with that head.
And they also -- they are the - they are birds of silent flight. If I were to fly him one inch over your head, you'd never hear anything. A parrot or a goose or something --
MORGAN: It's completely silent.
HANNA: Silent flight. It also -- one last thing, they call it the wise old owl. You've heard that? Not because they have a big brain. It's because they have their sense of hearing, their eyesight.
The animal's ears are over here by the way, not on the side -- they're over here the on the side of his head like a soup bowl like this and the echo location he picks up, he can hunt in total darkness, without seeing a thing.
MORGAN: Amazing creatures.
HANNA: So that's the Eurasian eagle owl. A lot of people don't get to see the Eurasian Eagle owl.
MORGAN: They are actually dangerous in their own way.
HANNA: They can be, yes. I mean, these -- but they are also -- because (INAUDIBLE) rodents -- a barn owl, for example, can take out 30 mice in one hour, in the barn. So, they are very important in that way, and they are protected species in our country now, the owl.
MORGAN: OK. Let's take a break.
When I come back, the fastest animal on the planet.
But first, here's another of Jack's top five animals close encounters.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The whole cave is alive. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: OK if you look at now. It's up there. It's called a bird's nest.
HANNA: Those are bats.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Bats and birds.
HANNA: Oh OK. Let's keep moving
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MORGAN: Usain Bolt is hands down the fastest human being the world has ever known.
But I wonder just how he would fare against the animal Jack Hanna has just brought out.
Jack, we seem to have a large, fully formed cheetah.
HANNA: Yes, this is a cheetah. This animal goes 70 miles an hour. So when you're in your car going 65, in all seriousness, we clocked him at 70.
The cheetah's eyesight is impeccable. Two miles it can spot a little rabbit.
MORGAN: Two miles?
HANNA: Yes. Also if you look at the eyes -- I don't think you can see them here, we'll turn him around here in a second -- if you look at the eyes, I'll let the guys pick this up on camera. If you will -- turn him around in a second if you would.
You'll notice he has dark marks under his eyes like a football player, baseball player, when you know - you look in direct light, like I am right now. Mother Nature invented that because the cheetah is the only cat in the world, well, the only cat who will hunt in the heat of the day -- 110 degrees outside, they have to hunt. They are a weak cat.
Now, look at the foot -- if the cameras can look at the foot a second because you've got some good guys here on these cameras. There, they are perfect.
They are the only cat in the world -- this is an amazing shot here -- the only cat in the world with non-retractable claws.
Every cat in the world can retract their claws, but the cheetah, and it's because it's like a dog's foot, it allows him to run even faster.
The sad thing is Piers, when they do make a hit, at 50 to 60 miles an hour, 90 percent -- 60 percent of the time, the animal gets away. Then -- MORGAN: All right, mate.
HANNA: Yes, I'm here, don't worry. Well, maybe you should worry.
Anyway, once --
MORGAN: This is the first time I really felt quite intimidated because --
HANNA: Yes, but you can imagine --
MORGAN: First time, this is a big beast.
HANNA: You see why in the wild, when I tell you we film, we film the comfort zone of me and in the comfort zone of the animal, obviously.
This animal is raised -- it's still a wild animal but it also was born in the Wilds (ph), which is one of the most spectacular places we have outside the Columbus Zoo.
MORGAN: How would this kill us humans?
HANNA: All right, this would kill basically in the wild, it has to grab the throat and do the chokehold. Once they do that, they're just sitting there about five to 10 minutes.
But the sad thing is Piers, what happens is, if they do make a kill, buzzards and vultures like you saw circle over, right? The hyenas and lions are sleeping. They go, hey, the cheetah has made a kill. They go over and take the food from the cheetah, and then they actually sometimes will eat the cheetah -- the lion will.
HANNA: So this animal has a tough time in nature
MORGAN: The line would kill the cheetah?
HANNA: Yes and --
MORGAN: And eat it?
HANNA: Yes and -- animals are -- that's not a very common thing but they will do that.
MORGAN: Can a lion kill anything, basically?
HANNA: But it is the king of beasts. It can kill just about anything. But, yes, it would be tough time with an elephant. They can do that too if they get a pride of lions ganging up on it.
These are solitary cats, by the way, again. The cheetah is a cat that is solitary.
A cheetah is very, very endangered throughout Africa.
And, by the way, and Egyptians we know also that these --
MORGAN: So, they prefer to be alone?
HANNA: Yes. Oh, yes. And she has a cub, which stays with her for about three to four years -- well, one of the few cats in the world, that will keep her cubs three to four years.
The Egyptians also, Piers, there's another cat -- the Egyptians actually domesticated -- I say domesticated -- tried to domesticate it. It's also drawn on the inside of the pyramids.
But now the cheetah exists nowhere in northern Africa. All -- you know, the equator goes through Kenya, right there in southern Africa, Botswana, Namibia, Zambia, is where you start finding the cheetah.
MORGAN: How can your trainers be so relaxed?
HANNA: Because these folks they are making sure, the cheetah or their first birth usually of cubs, she'll eat them or destroy them or let them go.
This -- we knew this, all right, but they were born four weeks early. So this was one of four, we've saved two of them.
Right now in the Wilds we breed cheetahs like 10 or 12 cheetah births a year. In the Wilds, it is 10,000 acres we have, in southeastern Ohio, next of the Columbus Zoo, and it's magnificent. It's a beautiful creature.
You hear that noise there?
HANNA: You hear that?
MORGAN: And over 100 meters, if it was this cheetah against Usain Bolt, who'd win?
HANNA: Uh, ho, you? You or me?
MORGAN: Now, a cheetah against Usain Bolt, the Jamaican sprinter. He won the 100 meters at the Olympics.
MORGAN: Who would win?
HANNA: This thing here. He wouldn't even go 10 feet with this thing.
MORGAN: Really? HANNA: Oh he's just -- if he -- when we film is three cameras, we can't take one camera. Three cameras can't even feel the cheetah kill.
It's like -- it's like this and the cat turns at 50 miles an hour like that, hits its prey, it's like a cloud of dust.
MORGAN: There is no faster animal in the world than this?
HANNA: Well, the Peregrine falcon, the only one -- that's a bird, by the way, that's 220 miles an hour. That's the fastest --
MORGAN: In terms of a land --
HANNA: No that's a fastest one in the world. No.
MORGAN: That's amazing. Amazing creature.
HANNA: I only -- again, for you to see that, Piers, means a lot to us because you now see the fastest land animal in the world. That's a cheetah.
MORGAN: But what -- I've never been this close to an animal where you feel the power.
HANNA: Yes, you can feel.
MORGAN: And this is not even one of the really big cats.
HANNA: No, yes.
MORGAN: I can feel the surging power and aggression.
HANNA: Next time, I come and I'll bring a fully grown tiger.
MORGAN: Thank you, Jack.
HANNA: I'm just joking, I'm not going to do that.
MORGAN: What makes you think there's going to be a next time?
HANNA: No we won't.
HANNA: You hear the tail Piers?
Also the tail is like a sale of a sailboat. That cat can use that tail like a sail. Going 60 miles an hour, that tail will help him turn at speed.
MORGAN: Absolutely amazing. Undisputedly, probably the ugliest -- the warthog.
Here he comes.
HANNA: You know, some people say that. They say the wildebeest was all the leftover parts that God created --
MORGAN: And he's a very ugly animal. Isn't it, Jack?
MORGAN: I mean, you love animals, right?
HANNA: I do love animals, but he is --
MORGAN: You must agree, this is a particularly ugly species.
HANNA: Yes, he is something. The warthog, you've asked for the warthog. See the warts on his face there?
HANNA: No, those warts, when this animal gets -- you can turn his face that way, Grant -- when he gets full grown, those warts gets all over his face, and they always protect them when they fight sometimes.
Plus, he has his teeth, what you call teeth, Grant, like ivory, comes out of his mouth like two -- like two knives, all right, and those things are very important to help protect himself if a lion were to attack.
Like a lot of lions, a cheetah, for example --
HANNA: The warthog is a main source of food for these animals, because the warthog spends 60 percent of life on his knees. Usually, that warthog is always out there on his knees eating grasses and little tubers, all that kind of stuff. But the warthog also is an important animal for other animals because this will --
MORGAN: How much milk do they drink a day?
HANNA: He's drinking a lot now.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: He's weaned -- he's weaned actually.
Now, look at the tail. You see that little tail?
MORGAN: Yes. HANNA: That tail sticks take up like this -- Grant will show you -- when you go to Africa, if that animal does this and starts running, all the other animals, I don't care if it's giraffe or other animals around, zebra, or wildebeest, when they see this, they'll take off because they know the warthog has sensed something. They are very bright animals and they know when something bad is coming around.
Now, he is eaten by a lot of animals. He digs holes in the ground, the warthog, and then, of course, the hyena comes in and eats him and takes over his hole.
But they are an animal that really people don't think they are very bright, but the hog or pig is an intelligent creature. These animals are.
MORGAN: Extraordinary. OK.
HANNA: See those warts there -- warthog.
MORGAN: Next, a couple of the cutest little critters you'll ever see. Jack is about to bring those out.
But, first, another of his animals close encounters -- with a Malaysian cobra.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: They are really attracted to movement -- you can see how they strike.
HANNA: The end of this stage show was just as amazing
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You're going to catch now, huh?
HANNA: You're going to catch him?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Wow
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MORGAN: Back with Jack Hanna.
He is slowly turning setting my studio into a slice of Madagascar.
We've now been joined by these vast bear-like creatures.
What is this?
HANNA: Yes. This is a bearcat, or binturong. I don't know if you can kneel. You can kneel here all because of the camera. I think you'll get a better shot here, that's great.
The bearcat or binturong -- of course, I'm going to ask who is that. This animal is what I call a wolverine -- we have a wolverine in this country, which is almost they say, pound for pound, one of the most fierce animals or whatever there is, the fearless animal in our country.
But this bearcat or binturong from Malaysia -- this tail right here Piers, is a prehensile tail. When he sits in trees, he hangs upside down, but if that tail were to get around your neck, it can do you any in a matter of 30 or 60 seconds
HANNA: That's how powerful it is.
HANNA: He would not do that, but this animal's got big teeth, his whiskers are there. They get much bigger than that. He's nocturnal in Malaysia. It lives in those incredible jungles over there. It feels with those whiskers in total darkness, to move around where he can't see.
The animal smells like popcorn. You noticed a second ago. He smells like a -- we get so hungry.
MORGAN: He smells exactly like popcorn.
HANNA: I know and we get so hungry in the truck when we're driving around with him because he smells like popcorn.
But those claws can tear apart anything. Plus, remember you saw the cobra there?
MORGAN: You guys never get bitten or anything?
HANNA: Oh, yes, but then again, they're raising animals. They know that these are wild animals, you know. But for educational purposes, we want to bring them on, especially in the honor of coming here to your show tonight, to teach people about these creatures and about animals.
Some people say, oh, they just shoot the animals. They might eat chickens or something.
But if every -- the Good Lord created creatures for a certain reason, and this animals is one of the most spectacular. It's --
MORGAN: It's amazing.
HANNA: They call it a bearcat because he feels like a bear.
Have you ever touched a bear? MORGAN: No.
HANNA: Oh, that's stupid.
MORGAN: No, it's sensible.
HANNA: Yes, but it's called a bearcat because this guy looks like a cat and part bear.
But not many people have ever seen a bearcat or binturong.
MORGAN: It's an amazing creature.
HANNA: Thank you so much.
MORGAN: OK, thank you very much.
Next we have I think --
HANNA: This is a palm civet.
MORGAN: Oh, a palm civet, OK
HANNA: I don't know if you remember -- I don't if you remember the SARS of East Asia --
MORGAN: Now, all I know about the palm civet is its droppings are used to fertilize coffee. Is that right?
HANNA: How do you know all that?
MORGAN: Someone told me that.
HANNA: Yes. He eats the coffee beans, right? It goes in his stomach, through his intestines, out on the ground with a film a coating on it, right
They take it and bake it and sell it for $500 a pound, palm civet coffee.
Can you imagine that?
MORGAN: It's extraordinary.
HANNA: Yes, supposed to be medicinal, help you -- but I don't think it can help me.
But this animal here is also -- if you remember the SARS disease -- you remember about 10 years ago in Asia, it killed some people -- SARS?
MORGAN: Yes, SARS, yes.
HANNA: All right, also in Canada. This is the animal that causes SARS disease.
HANNA: Not this animal, this species of animal
HANNA: Because it's a delicacy in Asia. It sells for 200 bucks in a restaurant.
They also use the fur, they also use underneath the armpit -- there are scent glands, they used for perfume back in the early, like 1940s or '50s.
But the animal also loves -- as I told you before, just like the other one, loves to eat cobras as well.
This little creature here can eat a king cobra.
How does he do that? Real quickly -- the cobra is like this. When a cobra strikes at you, he goes like this. It's not like a rattlesnake, hit you with toothy fangs. He'll go like this, right.
HANNA: And you can predict it. So this animal comes down on the ground, starts walking around the cobra. So the cobra is like this, trying to get him like, and then all of a sudden this little creature, runs around the cobra like this, right, and the cobra goes like this, trying to follow him.
The cobra gets so dizzy, he falls over. He bites the cobra's head off.
HANNA: It's funny but it's not funny for the cobra.
MORGAN: This is unbelievable.
HANNA: Yes, that's how it kills it.
MORGAN: It makes it go round and round and so it gets dizzy and rolls over.
HANNA: Yes, exactly. How would nature know that? But he knows how to do that.
MORGAN: How extraordinary.
MORGAN: Yes. So the palm civet again, you remember where the bearcat was from, that's where this one is from, here.
HANNA: And this animal here is one you heard about-- this, Piers, is the Siberian lynx.
MORGAN: All right. Easy.
HANN: You'll hold him -- you'll told him
MORGAN: You're just holding him a bit loose there, for my liking. You know, in case he decides to --
HANNA: Jump on him.
HANNA: This animal here, I'm sorry to say, some of the species of the animal was declared extinct in the wild about a year ago.
Now we don't see many animals in our lifetime that were declared extinct in the wild. The Siberian lynx is doing pretty good in the zoos. This animal lives in altitudes, again, in that part of the world, way high up. These also hunted for his coat. Now, he sees himself in that monitor right there --
MORGAN: Yes. It has.
HANNA: Now, he's seeing something there.
MORGAN: He's seeing me at the moment
HANNA: Now, he's --
MORGAN: By the look of it.
HANNA: But this animal also --
MORGAN: There's hunger in his eyes.
HANNA: If you if you guys can focus on his back foot here is second. I don't know if you can see that.
There's this back foot right here or right in here, you see how flat this back foot is? Let me show you here on the side there. Yes, this side right here, perfect.
Oh yes, right in here.
You see that, Piers? You see --
HANNA: The flat foot there?
HANNA: This animal runs on the whole back part, not on the pad, this whole back part -- this whole, right here. This whole thing here, everybody, that's what he runs on -- the whole back thing that's like a snowshoe.
If he runs on the pad -- MORGAN: Yes, amazing
HANNA: It's like a snowshoe, if he runs on this --
MORGAN: And he runs flat on that.
HANNA: Exactly, because we invented the snowshoe, but really it was invented thousands of years ago by this animal, because he would sink in the snow.
This animal here, though, again, was hunted for their coat, and now that's now longer the case because they are so few, they can't locate each other. And it's a beautiful -- the lynx, if you could feel this coat here.
MORGAN: It is beautiful, yes.
Now we have the --
HANNA: He can jump on you if he wants to.
MORGAN: Just consider the answer to every one of your questions would be no.
This is the ring-tailed lemur.
HANNA: Yes, the lemur is interesting. The lemur is a pre- simian. That means pre-monkey and pre-ape.
Can you imagine how long this animal has been on this planet?
Pre-monkey and pre-ape. Look at the little hands here. See the hands. Look at these hands.
Just like your hands. Isn't that amazing?
You can imagine the tens of thousands --
MORGAN: That is amazing. Look at that.
HANNA: It is only from Madagascar. The animal is only from Madagascar. That's where he lives. They live in families.
MORGAN: But they are human hands?
HANNA: Oh, yes, exactly. And he - they are like --
MORGAN: He's got my notes?
HANNA: Well, I'm sorry. Is that your notes?
HANNA: But he's also marking your notes. He has little scent glands under here he marks his territory with.
And his tail is not a prehensile tail. He can't hang by it, but it weighs less than --
MORGAN: All right.
HANNA: No, no, come here
We call him Larry the lemur.
MORGAN: Coming up, more animals. But, first, Jack Hanna's number one of top five close encounters.
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HANNA: I stepped in for a closer look, when suddenly.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: God --
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Oh my --
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Whoa! Whoa!
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Whoa!
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MORGAN: We're back with Jack Hanna and me, Crocodile Morgan.
And we've saved the best for last here.
This lizard is fantastic.
This is got the longest tongue of anything I have ever seen in my life.
HANNA: This (INAUDIBLE).
What he's doing Piers, his --
MORGAN: I could see his tongue.
HANNA: Yes, but right now, what's happening is, he feels your body temperature.
HANNA: That's what he's picking up, the warm heart --
MORGAN: Is he feeling that I'm hot then --
HANNA: Yes, exactly. Exactly. That's what he's doing. MORGAN: So, he feels my warm blood --
HANNA: Exactly, that's what he picks up the particles --
MORGAN: What's that tongue doing?
HANNA: That's what he's doing. Feeling the warm particles coming off you with that tongue.
HANNA: These animals, the bite is usually lethal. I'm talking about 95 percent. Not venomous, because the bacteria in their mouth is what causes it.
Like the Komodo Dragon can bite something, like a little deer or something, run away for a week, and he will track that animal down just by following the blood, and he'll find it dead because the bacteria in these animals is incredible.
This is the Asian water monitor. Not like, the monitor lizard we have in Africa, which is bigger. This one only lives in water, and they have like a little serrated teeth up in there, but the animal tongue -- I don't know why he's picking up on you, not me. But you must be hotter than me or something.
But that is the Asian water monitor, one of the biggest lizards in the world. I wanted to show you.
MORGAN: That remarkable creature. OK
HANNA: He is.
MORGAN: Oh my God! What this?
Just stay over here, Grant
GRANT: Go over where?
HANNA: Here to keep his head over this way. That's fine.
HANNA: You remember we talked about the anaconda?
MORGAN: This is an anaconda?
HANNA: You saw that one that almost bit me there in the --
MORGAN: You've got an anaconda wrapped around your neck, are you mad?
HANNA: No, no. The anaconda -- they have about 200 teeth shaped like fishhooks, all right? And by the way, this snake here, if this was to bite you -- now remember this, in case this ever happens to you.
If it bite you like this, right, it cannot let go. It takes about 30 minutes for it to relax its jaw muscle like this, and then it can let go.
So, if you're hiking somewhere -- I'm serious about this -- and a boa constrictor or a python or an anaconda bites you, what you do, Piers, you sit there, Piers.
MORGAN: Not now, Jack.
HANNA: No, no, you sit there.
MORGAN: Oh, no.
HANNA: No, he's not going to do anything right now.
MORGAN: What is he doing right now?
HANNA: He's just smelling you right now
MORGAN: What's that mean?
HANNA: He just feels your -
MORGAN: Is ready to kill or what?
HANNA: No. What he does Piers, remember something -- this snake here gets to be almost 25 to 30 feet long in the wild.
He's a water snake. These have live babies.
A python is from Asia and Africa. They lay eggs.
MORGAN: Does the anaconda constrict like the python?
HANNA: Yes, exactly. Because once they bite --
MORGAN: Why does it go around your neck?
HANNA: Because he can't kill here, he knows that. Because this snake knows he can't kill this guy.
HANNA: Because he's just too big.
But they could easily take down a small child.
MORGAN: You say it knows it can't kill him?
HANNA: This animal knows. They - this is an animal, he doesn't know he's a human. He knows he's an animal that's too big to eat. So he's not going to bite him. Plus, he works with the animal education all the time.
MORGAN: How much does this comes down to trust?
Now, you don't trust. You know, you -- as far as trust, this guy here has to know what his animals are.
MORGAN: And do you ever trust these wild animals in the end?
HANNA: Now, not necessarily trust --
MORGAN: And he will do what comes naturally?
MORGAN: Jesus Christ!
HANNA: Yes. They'd kill and that's what it comes down to.
MORGAN: Never have I ever wanted to end this show more than I do right now.
You know what, Jack?
HANNA: We'll be back. It's been a pleasure.
MORGAN: I wish I could say it's been a pleasure I'm not sure it has, really. It's been an experience.
HANNA: I'll shake your hand.
MORGAN: Jack, it's been fascinating.
Well, thanks to Jack Hanna and the Columbus Zoo and Aquarium and the Wilds. Tune into Jack Hanna's "Into the Wild" and Jack Hanna's "Wild Countdown."
That is all for us tonight.
I'm going to have a cold shower.