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Internet Pioneer on the Run; Counting Down to the Cliff; Dueling Rallies in Cairo; A Look Back at This Week's Negotiations Over Fiscal Cliff; 'Thriller' Turns 30; Fight Oxidative Stress With Fruits, Veggies

Aired December 1, 2012 - 06:00   ET


RANDI KAYE, CNN ANCHOR: From CNN world headquarters in Atlanta, this is EARLY START WEEKEND.


JOHN MCAFEE, INTERNET ANTIVIRUS PIONEER: But I was certainly not turn myself in and I will not quit fighting.


KAYE: In disguise and on the run, U.S. Internet tycoon John McAfee is hiding in Belize from authorities investigating a murder, but CNN found him Friday night and you'll hear his exclusive interview.


REINCE PRIEBUS, RNC CHAIRMAN: I think that what we can conclude is that we've got to be better.


VICTOR BLACKWELL, CNN ANCHOR: An extreme makeover. That's what some Republicans say the party needs after losing the presidency and seats in Congress. All morning we'll look at how the grand old party might be looking for a bold new image.

KAYE: And winter is almost here and 'tis the season for colds, flu and bronchitis. Our health expert joins us to see what you can do to stay healthy.

It is Saturday, December 1st. Good morning, everyone. I'm Randi Kaye.

BLACKWELL: I'm Victor Blackwell. It is good to be with you this morning.

KAYE: Hard to believe it's December already. Where did the year go?

BLACKWELL: I'm ready, though.

KAYE: You're ready for December?

BLACKWELL: I'm ready for the season and Christmas music in the mall. It's great. KAYE: It is kind of nice, I agree. It's kind of festive.

BLACKWELL: Yes, it's really nice.

KAYE: Well, we begin this morning with John McAfee, a man who, until recently, was best known for his work as an Internet antivirus pioneer. But now McAfee is making headlines for a very different reason. As police want to question him regarding the murder of his neighbor in Belize. McAfee says he's innocent and now he's speaking out to CNN in his first sit-down interview about his new life as a fugitive.


JOHN MCAFEE, INTERNET ANTIVIRUS PIONEER: It hasn't been a lot of fun. I miss my prior life. Much of the -- much of it has been depravation. No bands, no -- well, poor food, at least.


BLACKWELL: Well, McAfee, 67 years old, has been interviewed by phone and even started a blog during his exile, but our Martin Savidge has more on the lengths McAfee is going to, to allude police.

MARTIN SAVIDGE, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Victor, I have to say, it was one of the most bizarre interviews I've ever been a part of. And it almost seemed at times like something out of a bad spy movie. There were people that we had to meet and utter the right password to. There were vehicles we jumped into, drove around, then jumped out. Switched into another vehicle. There were switch backs, u-turns, crossing through parking lots.

When we finally got to John McAfee, he's wearing an outlandish disguise, kind of like an old man with a crippled arm, powder in his hair to make himself look old and he's walking with a cane.

When we talked to him, though, this is where the conversation seemed to go from the credible to the crazy and then back to the credible again. And I began asking him the questions authority want to know. Did he have anything to do with the murder of his neighbor. He says, no, absolutely not. Doesn't know who did. I said, why don't you go to the police with that? He say because, and this is the crazy part, the government is out to get him. It's part of a plot. If they capture him, they'll kill him. It's clear that he feels that he's running out of options and the walls are closing in.


SAVIDGE: How do you see this coming to an end?

JOHN MCAFEE, INTERNET ANTIVIRUS PIONEER: I don't have a crystal ball. I'm going to continue to fight until something changes.

SAVIDGE: You won't turn yourself in?

MCAFEE: I will not. SAVIDGE: So it will either be that somehow you get away or the authorities come and get you?

MCAFEE: One of those two. Well, get away doesn't mean leave the country, it means that, that, number one, they will find the murderer of Mr. Fall (ph). Number two, the people of this country, who are by and large terrified to speak out, will start speaking out and something will change. But I will certainly not turn myself in and I will not quit fighting.


SAVIDGE: Authorities here in Belize say that any talk that this is a government effort to try to kill him is, well, as crazy as it sounds. That it's not true. This is a democratic nation. It is a nation that has a professional police force and it is only natural when your neighbor shows up dead that authorities would want to talk to you. They make the same request. They would ask that John McAfee turn himself in merely to answer some questions. And that is it. In the mind of John McAfee, that is not it at all -- Victor.

BLACKWELL: Yes, this is really one of the more bizarre stories.

KAYE: Oh, yes.

BLACKWELL: That this guy has kind of runoff and he's hiding. You know, he told Martin that he hid himself on a beach at one point and put a box over his head. Buried himself in the sand.

KAYE: He's clearly paranoid, but he hasn't been charged with anything. That's the important thing to point out. He just -- they just want to question him.


KAYE: So it's -- the behavior is a little bizarre.

BLACKWELL: Which makes a lot of people wonder, why are you running if you're not a suspect?

KAYE: They just want to talk to the guy.

BLACKWELL: A lot of questions.

KAYE: So, yes, we'll certainly see what happens.

We want to bring you now some live pictures coming in to us from -- it's near Cairo University in Giza, in Egypt here. This is a pro- Mohamed Morsi rally. This is -- we have seen rallies here. Certainly some anti-Morsi, some pro-Morsi rallies taking place. This is all about the so-called power grab by Mohamed Morsi trying to tell the judges there that they can't overturn any of the decrees he has put in place.

Well, now we have a draft constitution in place approved by an assembly there. Sort of a hurry up draft constitution. And citizens will be voting on that in a couple of weeks. But you can see, judging from the crowd here, they're certainly pro-Morsi. But on the flipside of that is a lot of anger and a lot of frustration that this draft constitution does not represent a lot of the people there in Egypt.

We will continue to follow this story throughout the morning and continue bringing you live pictures and our reporters there on the scene as well -- Victor.

BLACKWELL: And this is also new in to CNN. In just the past few hours, we've learned that North Korea's young leader, Kim Jung-un, plans to launch a long range rocket within days. Now, this move could seriously raise tensions between the world's most secretive nation and its South Korean neighbor and the U.S. Seoul already calls this a grave provocation. This would be North Korea's second attempt. You'll remember the first was that rocket launch that it hyped so much in April that failed. Pyongyang says it wants to put a working satellite in orbit, but Washington and Seoul, they think the rocket launchers are really a cover for ballistic missile tests.

KAYE: Thirty-one days. That's how much time is left until the fiscal cliff deadline. With time winding down, lawmakers are squaring off with each side accused the other of blocking a deal. Here's House Majority Leader Eric Cantor.


REP. ERIC CANTOR (R), MAJORITY LEADER: What we will do is continue to take this as a serious matter. This is not a game. We're not interested in playing rope-a-dope. You're interested in trying to solve the problems of the American people so that we don't see taxes go up on anybody, so that we can engage in tax reform, get this economy going again.


KAYE: Democratic Senator Max Baucus says congressional leaders and the president need to get to work on negotiations right now before the U.S. enters unchartered waters.


SEN. MAX BAUCUS (D), FINANCE COMMITTEE CHAIRMAN: I think if there's no agreement whatsoever, if the other side is completely intransigent, that the president has probably no choice but to say, OK, we're going to go over the cliff. That would not be my first preference.


KAYE: And should that happen, should we go over that so-called fiscal cliff, Republican Congressman Lee Terry thinks there could be an ulterior motive on the part of the president.


REP. LEE TERRY (R), OKLAHOMA: Many of us fear that the president's real plan here was to let us go over the cliff and blame the Republicans and that's what we look like we're being set up to do. And then if you go over the cliff, then two months later, a month later, the president can come back with a bill and say, hey, we're going to now, since the Republicans let everyone's taxes go up, I'm going to ride in here now, be the knight in shining armor and lower the taxes on the lower two brackets.


BLACKWELL: Two Pakistani brothers living in Florida are accused of plotting to use a weapon of mass destruction against Americans. They were arrested Thursday on -- and indicted yesterday. The federal indictment says the plot started back in 2011. But investigators are being tight lipped about specifics. They're now trying to determine if the two were acting on their own or if they were receiving directions from overseas.

"The worst day of my career." That's how the president of Wyoming's Caspar College describes an attack on campus. It left three people dead, including a faculty member. Now, police say a man killed one person using what cops are only describing as a sharp edged weapon and then went into a classroom, killed another person and then he killed himself. Now, police have not released the names of the victims, but police say that they all knew each other.

KAYE: And in New Jersey, three people are hospitalized in stable condition after a train derailment linked a chemical in the town of Paulsboro. The chemical, vinyl chloride, is highly toxic and flammable, but a state environmental official says much of it has now dissipated. The derailment is blamed on a bridge failure. It sent four train cars tumbling into a creek near the Delaware River.

BLACKWELL: Well, after losing the presidency and seats in the House and seats in the Senate, there is really no way to avoid the elephant in the room and the GOP knows it.

KAYE: So, what do they need to do to change? What issues do they really need to start focusing on? We're about to break it all down for you.


KAYE: Welcome back, everyone. Twelve minutes past the hour now.

Remaking the GOP image. We've heard a lot of soul searching and finger pointing in the weeks after President Obama won re-election. It's our focus this morning. Here's how RNC Chairman Reince Priebus put it.


REINCE PRIEBUS, RNC CHAIRMAN: I don't think you can draw any quick conclusions other than the fact that we lost and we know that. But I think in order to get back in the game, you've got to look at and do a full autopsy on what happened, what we did well, what we didn't do well.

(END VIDEO CLIP) KAYE: The issues, of course, are varied from immigration to tax pledges to abortion. There's a whole lot to talk about. So let's start with the no new tax pledge. A number of top Republicans have come out this week saying that they'll turn their back on the pledge if it gets a deal done on the fiscal cliff.


SEN. BOB CORKER (R), TENNESSEE: I think a lot of people made the pledge 20 years ago, 25 years ago, 15 years ago. I think they realize that we're in a very critical time for our country and this issue has to be dealt with. Revenues needs to be a part of the component and entitlement reform, true entitlement reform, has to be there also in order for us to put this in the rear view mirror.


KAYE: That's a big change. So what would the former Republican Party flag bearer say?


MITT ROMNEY (R), FORMER PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE: Change can't be measured in speeches. It's measured in results.


KAYE: That was Mitt Romney attacking President Obama, but it works for his own party, too. Now let's move on to immigration. Romney's self deportation stance didn't sit well with a growing number of Hispanic voters. Now two retiring Republicans are pushing their own version of The Dream Act. It gives the children of immigrants a path to citizenship.


SEN. JOHN KYL (R), ARIZONA: We're introducing this legislation, which is not dissimilar from what the president has done de facto, as a way of righting the situation, but doing in the right way. Namely to change the law.



ROMNEY: Change can't be measured in speeches, it's measured in results.


KAYE: One of the issues that sunk a couple of Republican Senate candidates was abortion. Their controversial statements really did them in. So now John McCain has a remedy for this one.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP) SEN. JOHN MCCAIN (R), ARIZONA: As far as young women are concerned, absolutely. I don't think anybody like me, I can state my position on abortion, but to other than that, leave the issue alone.



ROMNEY: Change can't be measured in speeches, it's measured in results.


KAYE: But I'll leave the last word for Ted Cruz. He's the incoming Republican senator from Texas. He says he's like the mythical unicorn, a Hispanic Republican. He also says the "legacy of Barack Obama is going to be a new generation of leaders within the Republican Party." We'll have much more on the future of the Republican Party throughout the morning. And coming up next hour, we'll talk about change, what needs to change and what really needs to stay the same, actually.

But right now, in Washington, it doesn't matter if you're from the old Republican guard or the new one, everyone is going to have to come together with Democrats and make a deal on that fiscal cliff.

BLACKWELL: Yes, just 31 days until the deadline. And our chief White House correspondent Jessica Yellin has more on where each side stands.

JESSICA YELLIN, CNN CHIEF WHITE HOUSE CORRESPONDENT: Randi, Victor, Democrats say tax rates have to raise on the wealthiest or there's no deal. But Republicans say negotiations have to start with spending cuts. This is a case of who budges first.


YELLIN (voice-over): Just when you thought campaign season was over --

BARACK OBAMA, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: If Congress does nothing, every family in America will see their income taxes automatically go up on January 1st.

YELLIN: President Obama is back on the stump pressing Republicans to cut a deal averting the fiscal cliff.

OBAMA: That's sort of like the lump of coal you get for Christmas. That's a Scrooge Christmas.

YELLIN: Republicans say they want their Christmas, too, and blame the president for the deadlock.

REP. JOHN BOEHNER (R), HOUSE SPEAKER: There's a stalemate. Let's not kid ourselves. I'm not trying to make this more difficult.

YELLIN: Things got tense after Treasury Secretary Geithner visited Capitol Hill Thursday to present what Republicans are calling an unreasonable proposal. It includes $1.6 trillion in new taxes -- in part through raising rates on the top 2 percent and limiting loopholes and deductions -- $50 billion in stimulus next year, and $400 billion in Medicare and other entitlement savings to be worked out.

REP. ERIC CANTOR (R), MINORITY LEADER: I think that the proposal that was delivered here by Secretary Geithner to the speaker and me yesterday is not a serious proposal.

BOEHNER: They want to have this extra spending that's actually greater than the amount they're willing to cut.

YELLIN: But Democrats say it was just a starting point and one Republicans should counter.

OBAMA: There's going it be some prolonged negotiations. And all of us are going to have to get out of our comfort zones to make that happen.

YELLIN: CNN has learned last week the Republicans gave the White House their own starting position, which Democrats consider unbalanced. Extending all the Bush-era tax rates -- including for people making $250,000 and up -- raising revenue through tax reform, and cutting Medicare in part by increasing the eligibility age.


YELLIN: Both Democrats and Republicans are playing for leverage against the clock and Democrats are feeling emboldened by election results that gave them more seats in the House and the Senate next year and won the president a second term on a promise that Republicans are still resisting, a pledge to raise tax rates on the wealthiest 2 percent of Americans. And at the White House, they believe that eventually Republicans will relent on this point -- Randi, Victor.

KAYE: Jessica Yellin, thank you very much.

So these massive protests that we've been watching, really for a couple weeks now, they're continuing in Egypt today. These are live pictures of the latest rallies taking place, the latest protests taking place in the city of Cairo and in areas surrounding that against and for, in favor, of Mohamed Morsi.

BLACKWELL: Yes, these are demonstrators for President Morsi in the city of Giza. The demonstrators against him are also out today. Will these dueling rallies end in violent confrontation? We'll continue to watch as the show continues. Stay with us.


BLACKWELL: There are now fears this morning of unrest and confrontation in Egypt. Dueling rallies are taking place today in the capital of Cairo there. Egypt's Muslim Brotherhood party is rallying in support of President Mohamed Morsi. We're looking at live pictures right now of Giza. But thousands of Morsi protesters are expected to gather in Cairo's Tahrir Square. CNN's Ian Lee joins us now from Tahrir Square.

Ian, what's it looking like right there now? IAN LEE, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Well, right now we still only have a few thousand people in Tahrir Square. These are anti-Morsi protesters angry over his constitutional declaration and the new constitutional draft. In -- near Cairo University, we have the pro-Morsi -- his supporters. We have the Islamists there.

This is the first time we've really seen them flex any street muscle and their first time coming out to voice their support for President Morsi. So we're expecting a huge rally there later today and in the next couple of hours the Brotherhood is planning to start -- officially kick off their rally. But we're already seeing thousands of people at Cairo University voicing their support for the president.

BLACKWELL: There has been this power grab that anti-Morsi protesters are calling. Give us some details of what they accuse him of grabbing. What he's changed about the powers of the presidency.

LEE: Well, it definitely was a power grab. President Morsi now has more power than former President Hosni Mubarak did. Now what he basically can do is he can issue any decree that he believes will help bring -- help Egypt move forward. Now that's a very ambiguous decree, which means there's no one can really challenge it.

Also, when it comes to writing the constitution, he says the courts no longer have any oversight over it and only he can make any decision regarding the drafting of the constitution. That's a direct challenge to the courts. That's what has a lot of people in Tahrir and around the country so angry is that there is really no oversights any more over the writing of the constitution, especially now that the assembly that wrote it is heavily dominated by Islamists after the liberals, after the Christians pulled out of the assembly. So the constitution draft that is expected to be approved later today was written and was approved by a large majority of Islamists.

BLACKWELL: All right, two protests happening at the same time. One in support and one in defiance.

Ian Lee in Cairo's Tahrir Square, thank you.

KAYE: After today there will be a star missing from the galaxy. Today's MLS final will mark the end of an era for professional soccer in the U.S. We'll have all the details for you.


KAYE: It is 29 minutes past the hour now. Welcome back. I'm Randi Kaye.

BLACKWELL: I'm Victor Blackwell. Thank you for starting your day with us. Here are five stories we're watching this morning.

KAYE: On the run and possibly running out of options. That's the situation facing Internet mogul John McAfee who was wanted for questioning by Belize police regarding the murder of his neighbor. McAfee is maintaining his innocence. And in his first sit-down interview, he tells CNN he will keep working to clear his name. (BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

MARTIN SAVIDGE, CNN CORRESPONDENT: How do you see this coming to an end?

JOHN MCAFEE, INTERNET ANTIVIRUS PIONEER: I don't have a crystal ball. I'm going to continue to fight until something changes.

SAVIDGE: You won't turn yourself in?

MCAFEE: I will not.


KAYE: McAfee had a dispute with his neighbor after his dogs were poisoned. That neighbor was found shot to death shortly after that.

Three dead this morning following a murder/suicide on the campus of Casper College in Wyoming. Police say a man killed one person using what cops are calling a sharp-edged weapon. Then went into a classroom and killed a teacher in front of a class of students. Then he killed himself. Police have not released the names of the victims, but police say they all knew each other.

Do same-sex couples have a constitutional right to marry? Well, we don't know yet. The U.S. Supreme Court held a closed door meeting to decide whether to hear a series of appeals, but didn't say if they'll take action on this issue. Some took this as a sign the nine justices just needed more time. We expect an announcement by Monday morning.

And we continue to keep an eye on former President George H.W. Bush this morning. He is in stable condition at Houston's Methodist Hospital. He was admitted eight days ago and is being treated for bronchitis. His office says the former president is expected to be released in the next few days. Bush is 88, the oldest living former president.

When it was held in 1988, it was the first ever Global Health Day. Well, today marks the 26th World AIDS Day. It's a day designed to support those with HIV and honor the 25 million who have died from the disease in the past three decades. And this year, World AIDS day continues its mission, getting to zero by 2015.

BLACKWELL: Fried rice on Capitol Hill. We edged a little closer to that fiscal cliff and two very lucky Americans, they are a whole lot richer. A look back now at the week that was.


UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: The fiscal cliff, now just 34 days away.

SEN. HARRY REID (D-NEVADA), SENATE MAJORITY LEADER: We only have a couple of weeks to get something done.

REP. JOHN BOEHNER, (R-OH), HOUSE SPEAKER: Listen, this is not a game.

BARACK OBAMA, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA: I'll sign this bill as soon as Congress sends it my way.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Susan Rice faces more backlash.

SEN. SUSAN COLLINS (R), MAINE: I still have many questions that remain unanswered.

JAY CARNEY, WHITE HOUSE PRESS SECRETARY: There are no unanswered questions.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Somebody somewhere is waking up filthy stinking rich.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Lottery mascot doing gangnam style for us this morning.

BLACKWELL: Money, politics and the mix dominated this week that was the week centered on a big worry.

OBAMA: This fiscal cliff.

BOEHNER: Fiscal cliff.


UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: We could actually go off this fiscal cliff.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We are facing a fiscal Grand Canyon.

BLACKWELL: OK, so it's a big deal, question is, can these guys strike a deal?

OBAMA: I've got to repeat, I've got a pen.

BLACKWELL: Meantime, damage control for U.N. ambassador Susan Rice, how to smooth things over this week with Republicans after those Benghazi talking points.

SUSAN RICE, U.S. AMBASSADOR TO THE UNITED NATIONS: Extremist elements came to the consulate as this was unfolding.

BLACKWELL: It didn't work. Now, their talking points.

SEN. JOHN MCCAIN (R), ARIZONA: We are significantly troubled.

SEN. KELLY AYOTTE (R), NEW HAMPSHIRE: I want to say that I'm more troubled today.

BLACKWELL: Democrats shot back.

SEN. RICHARD DURBIN (D -IL): They're not only blaming her for this intelligence report, they're trying to blame her for the actual tragic event.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I've seen so much crazy stuff in this house, I could write a book.

BLACKWELL: Or make an Internet video --

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Not (inaudible) steering person and be on political show like that.

BLACKWELL: That's actor Angus T. Jones, "Two and a Half Men Start" caught slamming his own TV show.

ANGUS T. JONES: If you watch "Two and a Half Men" please stop watching "Two and a Half Men." I'm on "Two and a Half Men" and I don't want to be on it.

BLACKWELL: He apologized, but still he may get his wish. Now, to just two men. These two men. Mano-a-mano in the White House Thursday. Former rivals on a private lunch date.

CONAN O'BRIEN: It was an awkward moment when Romney looked around and said, so, how much do you want for the place?


BLACKWELL: On the menu white turkey chili with some southwestern grilled chicken salad.


UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Thank you very much.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: And all that build up.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: These are actually going to be the winners tonight.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I feel like today is the day.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: $580 million jackpot.

BLACKWELL: For the big letdown.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Two winning Powerball tickets were sold in last night's drawing and will split the record winnings.

BLACKWELL: Oh, well, there's always next time and that's the week that was.


KAYE: What a week!

BLACKWELL: I know. Did you -- did you play Powerball?

KAYE: I always play Powerball.


KAYE: Haven't had any luck, maybe a few dollars here or there. But not like this moment.

BLACKWELL: Our Atlanta bureau pool, 16 of us --

KAYE: I can get in on that.

BLACKWELL: -- we split $4.

KAYE: Where was I?

BLACKWELL: You were out, you know, telling somebody stories, but we were sitting around with our, you know, signals trying to become millionaires.

KAYE: And did you get any of it?

BLACKWELL: We split $4.

KAYE: $4?


KAYE: That's it?

BLACKWELL: I sent out an e-mail that said now I can get that added cheese I always wanted.

KAYE: They're now $2 a ticket.

BLACKWELL: Oh, yes. The jackpots will get bigger.

KAYE: Yay, it's going to be interesting to watch.

BLACKWELL: I'll try again.

KAYE: One day, one day we're going to win it. I can feel it.

Well, to the galaxy, now beyond. David Beckham will play his last game for the Galaxy today when L.A. takes on the Houston Dynamo in a rematch of last year's MLS final. Since the iconic British mid-fielder joined the Galaxy in 2007, the MLS has grown from 12 teams to 19 and merchandise sales have increased by more than 230 percent. Last season, Beckham helped L.A. win the championship match over Houston, one to nothing.

BLACKWELL: OK, so we didn't win Powerball.

KAYE: Nope.

BLACKWELL: We didn't. But we know at least one of the two winners that was Wednesday, two winning tickets were drawn. One of the tickets was purchased by Mark and Cindy Hill in Missouri.


CINDY HILL: My husband gave me. He said, oh, go buy -- he gave me $10. Go buy ten lottery tickets. I'm like, honey, they are $2 each. So he said, OK, buy five. So that's why I did and it happened to be the middle numbers that won. So -- (END VIDEO CLIP)

KAYE: Meanwhile, the second winning ticket from the more than half a billion dollar jackpot was bought in Arizona, we think, by this guy here. He is pretty excited about it, but he hasn't come forward yet and his identity remains a mystery, but he was super excited. He is walking around and showing everybody his ticket, but where is he now?

BLACKWELL: See, and I wouldn't show anybody.

Not so lucky, though, for the food industry. From Hostess to McDonald's and Burger King, it seems like some of our favorite guilty pleasures are under fire.

KAYE: But, first our CNN heroes will be honored at a special ceremony tomorrow night. So we wanted to check in with one of last year's honorees. Anderson Cooper updates us now on Diane Latiker and all she continues to do.


ANDERSON COOPER, CNN CORRESPONDENT: In Chicago homicides are up this year. On the South Side in a neighborhood called Roseland grandmother Diane Latiker needs to buy 80 new tombstones.

DIANE LATIKER: There are 376 stones in this memorial. We are over 80 behind and we're going to have to rebuild it for the tenth time.

COOPER: Diane is fighting youth violence. She's been giving kids an alternative to the streets for a decade by opening up her own home and heart. For the dedication and courage, she was honored as a top ten CNN Hero last year.

LATIKER: I was honored, but I felt more honored to be -- from this community because of the people who never thought that they would see someone from Roseland at that level.

COOPER: Diane's organization has helped an estimated 2,000 young people, and since being named a top ten CNN Hero, Diane's received crucial donations, including a basketball court, computers and a van. She was even featured on an episode of ABC's "Secret Millionaire."

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Just found out what all our different passions was, and pushed us to do different things. So, she is the savior of the hood, in my opinion.

LATIKER: You're welcome to come. We're right there. You know where we are.


COOPER: With the death toll in Chicago higher than it's been in years, Diane is still committed to breathing life into her struggling community and where others despair, this CNN Hero is proving that dreams are possible. LATIKER: And the hope for the years to come is to change this whole block. That's my goal, that's my vision. If a grandmother from Roseland can make it to CNN, anything's possible. That's what I tell these young people.



KAYE: You need to do some holiday shopping perhaps this weekend? Well, today might be the day to do it.

BLACKWELL: Yes, Target and Neiman Marcus have teamed up and this is a great idea. The results are getting unveiled today. Two dozen designers have created more than 50 limited edition gifts.

KAYE: How would you like, perhaps, a Tory Burch designed lunch box maybe?

BLACKWELL: That's what I always wanted.

KAYE: What about a bow maybe for your pet by Oscar de la Renta or you might be interested in a Diane Von Furstenburg yoga mat. I like the sound of that.

BLACKWELL: Well, Ford, not so good news for this. Just issuing a voluntary recall of some of some its top selling models this morning. It affects the 2013 Ford Escape and the 2013 Ford Fusion. Now, this recall is after reports of engines overheating followed by some vehicle fires. There have been no injuries reported. Now, if you own one of the models, Ford wants you to contact the dealer immediately for an alternative transportation. They'll give it to you at no cost. They have not yet determined how they'll repair this. And not just the car companies that are facing some bad news.

KAYE: Yes.

BLACKWELL: It seems like the food industry has been taking some hits over the last couple of weeks. OK, we saw the closure of the maker of the Twinkie, Hostess.

KAYE: Yes. We shed a few tears over that one. No more Twinkies, but, yes, the company was locked in a strike with its bakers union over contract terms that have been set. In bankruptcy court, the CEO said if you don't come back to work, well, guess what, we're going to have to close down and the workers actually called this bluff. They didn't come back and we saw what happened, the company moved into liquidation.

BLACKWELL: Yes, and actually, after we'd read this story about the closure, I went out looking for Twinkies at three stores, nowhere.

KAYE: Only on eBay.


KAYE: The only place you're going to get them.

BLACKWELL: I'm not paying 60 bucks a box. The actual transition was a little rough, 18,000 workers laid off, but we heard executives, they are going to get their bonuses.

KAYE: Of course, they are.


KAYE: But it's not as simple as the headline reads. It can also be called retention pay. Kind of creative there. Hostess is paying its executives to stay and help the company through the liquidation. And they have to meet certain benchmarks. They need people who have actually been running the place, of course, to help sell the company. Which means that we could, once again, see the Twinkies in the lunch boxes. You never know.

BLACKWELL: Maybe I'll get to try one this time.

KAYE: A girl can dream. A girl -- you've never had a Twinkie?

BLACKWELL: I've never had a Twinkie. You have had a Twinkie?

KAYE: Oh, my gosh, yes.

BLACKWELL: Only trash that I eat, and it's as healthy as you are.

KAYE: Well, years ago, I don't eat them anymore, but yes, years ago --

BLACKWELL: At one point I'm going to have one of those cream filled delicious cakes.


BLACKWELL: We could see Twinkie live to get into another box. But it's not just Hostess that battles its union. The issue came up again on Thursday, this time in New York. Look at this: hundreds of fast food workers from restaurants like McDonald's and KFC and Burger King on strike. The workers were calling for higher wages and the right to unionize.

KAYE: And they were pretty passionate. So let's take a listen now to just a couple of those workers who were on strike.


UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Many people are not able to afford apartments, some are on food stamps and it's, it's just not livable.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I'm trying to accomplish a better pay, better working condition and more, provide more clothing, a roof over my kids' head and put food on their table.


BLACKWELL: Well, the group organizing the protests say this is just the beginning. So, of course, we'll be watching that one.

KAYE: Yes, a lot of passion there.

Well, they are key to fighting through the flu season and most of us aren't even getting a sixth of what we need. Tips from a man who has never had a Twinkie, our very own Mark MacDonald, next.


KAYE: Well, here's something you probably didn't want to hear, we are in prime season to get sick. And it doesn't matter how old you are. Time for that nagging reminder to eat your fruits and veggies.

BLACKWELL: Now, this sound basic, but here's why it's important. Fruits and vegetables have antioxidants, and antioxidants neutralize free radicals, which really if left unchecked, can start to poison your body.

KAYE: If you're not getting rid of those free radicals, all kind of bad things could happen to you. So, cells can be destroyed, your immune system is weakened, and that is when you get sick. So we ask fitness and nutrition expert Mark MacDonald to come in and help keep us all healthy. All right, so --


KAYE: All right, so, most people don't even know that, don't even get the two servings of vitamins that they really need a day, fruits and vegetables and all of that. But you say we actually need how many? 12?

MARK MACDONALD: At least 12 a day.

KAYE: Wow!

MACDONALD: So, every day we're ten short. And that's what is really causing people's immune system to just hurt and it is like your cells start to rust. When you don't get enough antioxidants, the fruits and veggies, you have oxidative stress. Like internally, you begin to rust and your cells are destroyed.

BLACKWELL: So, what's the best vitamin to take? What should we have every day?

MACDONALD: So, these are vitamins. Vitamin A, C and E. And we'll talk about each one. They actually are antioxidants.


MACDONALD: So, we look at vitamin A, these are great sources to work into. You have sweet potatoes, cantaloupe, butter nut squash, dried apricots and carrots. So that provide you with vitamin A. It's great for your eyes and vision and immune booster. Then vitamin E, you know, we ask -- like of oils are great essential fat, but grape seed is a powerful in vitamin E and great to cook with almond butter, almonds, seeds and we love avocados.

KAYE: We sure do.

MACDONALD: So, this is vitamin E, so A, E, and then C.

KAYE: Right here.

MACDONALD: We have green leafy veggies. These are kale. People love kale shakes. I know that you love those, Randi.

KAYE: I'm a fan.

MACDONALD: Broccoli, your peppers, look at all the colors and then oranges. And that's vitamin C. These are boosting -- these are immune booster vitamins. A, C and E.

KAYE: You know, so I find, though, it's really hard to sort of keep track. I mean is it possible that you're getting too many vitamins or too many antioxidants? I mean how do you know?

MACDONALD: Well, you can't have too many fruits and veggies. But what you -- the mistake people make is this, oh, I -- OK, vitamin A, it's great for my vision. I'm going to take a vitamin A supplement and they're going to take a pill and that's when you start having problems because they're overloading on vitamins in specific needs when they're not doing the whole fruits and veggies.

KAYE: People always say, go with real food, right, that's better.

MACDONALD: Go with real fruit or if you're going to supplement, you have to make sure that you are taking these new supplementation now that actually is like whole fruits or veggies that are infused in a liquid format so you can drink it, so you're not just getting a piece of a vitamin C, you're actually getting this whole thing in a liquid format.

BLACKWELL: So, liquid is better than solid, when you are taking these vitamins.

MACDONALD: Always. Fully absorbed. Liquid is always going to absorb much better into your tissue.


KAYE: And the antioxidants, once again, what do they do? They are just -- they are just really good for us.

MACDONALD: So, every time we take a breath, we create a free radical. And that's like - that's like poison to your body. Antioxidants neutralize that free radical, protect yourselves. Boost your immune system, increase your metabolism speed and really just allows us to fight those colds that none of us want.

KAYE: So, how many servings of fruits and vegetables do you eat every day? I'm just curious?

MACDONALD: Well, I eat about probably that six or seven fruits and then I supplement with liquid antioxidants. KAYE: All right.

MACDONALD: Because we are busy.

KAYE: We are.

MACDONALD: So I get -- I actually get about 18, when I put it all together, I get about 18 servings of fruits and veggies, because we're busy, that's why I supplement, too.

KAYE: We're going to keep looking so young the more we have --

BLACKWELL: I know. Right. If I start taking the advice, yes, it will work.

KAYE: Yes, you've got to take the advice. Everybody at home, as well.


KAYE: Mark MacDonald, thank you.

MACDONALD: Thanks so much, Randi and Victor.

KAYE: Name any boundary -- ethnicity, gender, demographics and it crusted "Thriller" the hugely popular musical creation of Michael Jackson actually turned 30 this week. Kareen Wynter has much more.


KAREEN WYNTER, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Seven of the nine tracks would become top ten hits and 30 years later, "Thriller" is still the best- selling album in the world.

COMMON, RAPPER: It didn't matter if you were Asian, black, Hispanic, white, it's just like we all knew "Thriller."

PHIL GALLO, SENIOR CORRESPONDENT, BILLBOARD: It didn't matter if you had a huge punk collection or a huge R&B collection or Frank Sinatra was your favorite singer, for some reason you owned "Thriller."

WYNTER: Although videos like "Billy Gene," "Beat It" and "Thriller" quickly became the gold standard for MTV, "Billboard's "Phil Gallo says, the network was reluctant to place Jackson's music into rotation.

GALLO: They presented a video to MTV of "Beat It" and the president of Epic Records says, you don't get any other videos unless you play Michael Jackson. So, it was sort of a smart threat at the time, they went and played it and, of course, the response was staggering.

WYNTER: Michael Jackson became the first African-American added to what was then an all-rock lineup on MTV. "Thriller" broke new ground with a hybrid of pop, R&B and rock with a guitar solo on "Beat It" by surprise guest Eddie Van Halen. Van Halen says it started with a phone call from producer Quincy Jones. EDDIE VAN HALEN, MUSICIAN: He says, how would you like to come down and play on Michael Jackson's new record? And I am thinking to myself - OK, "ABC, one, two, three and me. How is that going to work?" Low and behold, when I got there, there's Quincy and there's Michael Jackson and engineers and they're making records.

WYNTER: "Thriller" went on to win seven Grammies, but more importantly, it was a cultural touchstone that transcended age, ethnicity and musical genre.

GALLO: This is the masterpiece. This is the pop classic. In many ways sort of defined the music of his later years.

WYNTER: Kareen Wynter, CNN, Los Angeles.


KAYE: Mitt Romney's lunch at the White House this week didn't just make headlines on all the major news networks.

BLACKWELL: Yes, it was also fodder for late night comedians. Here's what the likes of Jay Leno and Jon Stewart had to say about it.


JAY LENO, "TONIGHT SHOW": President Obama and Mitt Romney had lunch together at the White House today. In fact, Romney offered to buy Obama lunch, but the president said, no, no, no, it's on our grandchildren. They'll take care of it.


LENO: Don't even worry about it!

They'll pick up the tab, don't even worry about it.

JON STEWART, "THE DAILY SHOW WITH JON STEWART": Obama couldn't meet the guy in a restaurant? Had to make him come to the White House?


STEWART: That's some cold brew. Hey, Romney, what's up, man? Hey, isn't it funny, you almost lived here.


STEWART: This was almost your place. Just 3 million votes. Three -- Oh, you worked so hard for seven years and then (inaudible) (inaudible) (EXPLETIVE DELETED).

CONAN O'BRIEN, TALK SHOW HOST: It's true that President Obama had lunch at the White House with Mitt Romney. They were at the White House, yes. It was an awkward moment when Romney looked around and said, so, how much do you want for the place?

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KAYE: Good stuff there.

BLACKWELL: Yes. I'm surprised that they had white chicken chili. You have the guy over and you serve chicken chili and chicken salad.

KAYE: Maybe some more items on the menu. You know, maybe he likes it.

BLACKWELL: Hey, you know the saying, Bo knows Christmas. Actually, I just made that up.

KAYE: I was going to say, I've never heard that saying, but watch this.


KAYE: This I've got to say is one of my favorite holiday videos. This year so far, first dog Bo - look at his -- he's got this Christmas decoration patrol thing down. Oh, yes. Bo has good reason to make sure everything checks out. Of course, look at him checking on everything. Some 90,000 visitors are going to tour the White House this holiday season. I love that he's doing that.

BLACKWELL: Yes, no rush. Just kind of strolling around.

KAYE: And he's not even touching the ornaments.


KAYE: He seems so well behaved.

BLACKWELL: He's a well behaved dog.

KAYE: Well, thank you so much for starting your morning with us.

BLACKWELL: We've got a lot more coming up on CNN "SATURDAY MORNING" starts right now.