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Kate Middleton is Pregnant; John McAfee on the Run; The Man Behind Air Jordan Leaves Nike; Making Charitable Donations Go Further.

Aired December 3, 2012 - 11:30   ET

THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY BE UPDATED.


ASHLEIGH BANFIELD, CNN ANCHOR: Richard, live from London, tell us the news, darling.

RICHARD QUEST, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Well, you really are a miserable person, aren't you? Only you -- only you could pour water -- on what is a good --

BANFIELD: I'm thrilled.

QUEST: Yes, yes, yes. Let me read you a few of the statement of St. James Palace a short while ago: "The Royal Highnesses, the Duke and Duchess of Cambridge, are very pleased to announce that the Duchess of Cambridge is expecting a baby. The Queen, the Duke of Edinburgh, the Prince of Wales, the Duchess of Cornwall, and Prince Harry" - this is the grandparents, the parents and siblings -- "and members of both families are delighted with the news. The Duchess was admitted this afternoon to King Edward VII Hospital in central London with hyperemesis gravidarum.

BANFIELD: Wow.

QUEST: "As the pregnancy in the early stages" -- I haven't finished - "her Royal Highness is expected to stay at hospital several days and a period of rest thereafter."

I believe and I'm told that that actually means she's suffering from very bad morning sickness -- is what that is.

BANFIELD: I think so.

QUEST: The British Prime Minister, David Cameron, has already tweeted how delighted he is and he believes they'll make marvelous parents. And now we wait as we wonder what is the due date or the questions I know people like you dying to ask.

BANFIELD: Well, you know, I'm thrilled for the two. I think that's wonderful. I love baby news. I hope that she's given some peace and some rest because apparently the palace called for a period of rest for her, as well. How much speculation has there been where you are and what have been some of the signs that people have been pointing to other than a big picture with the baby bump?

QUEST: Well, it's exactly that. Over two or three weeks, maybe just a little bit longer, there's been talk, is she pregnant? They went to Cambridge on a trip recently, and there was a lot of speculation after that one, was this moment? Could you actually see the bump? Was she wearing her clothes and comporting herself and standing differently? You know, but if you look at what the palace says, the pregnancy's in its very early stages, so I don't know what they would class as that, as being early stages, but I suspect it is because it is no longer possible to keep it quiet.

BANFIELD: When you choose water for a toast over wine, that's what's going to get people all atwitter. She is terribly, terribly thin. Any amount of weight gain, I would assume, would have been suspect as potentially a pregnancy.

QUEST: Well, yes. You don't expect me to start sitting here discussing weight gain by women on national television --

(LAUGHTER)

-- and I certainly have no intention of doing so.

BANFIELD: You have done so. You asked me how many calories I was eating after the election when I had brunch.

QUEST: Yes, you don't count.

BANFIELD: I don't. I really don't, no.

My dear, lovely to see you and thank you for bringing us the wonderful news. And I'm not pouring water over it. I'm thrilled for the royal highnesses.

Richard Quest, live for us from London. Thank you.

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BANFIELD: Security software pioneer, John McAfee, is on the run. Police in Belize want to talk with him about the suspicious murder of his neighbor that happened three weeks ago, but Mr. McAfee is nowhere to be found, or so we thought, until CNN's Martin Savidge found him.

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MARTIN SAVIDGE, CNN CORRESPONDENT: The search to find John McAfee began right here at the airport not long after I landed. And it began with three words, sorry I'm late. A code word to let me know I met the person who would take me to McAfee.

But it wasn't that easy. What followed was a long drive through winding, twisting streets. And when you though it was coming to an end, instead, we get in to a parking lot, quickly get out and get in to another vehicle, drive off again. This time, with switchbacks, U- turns and back alleys. It was clearly meant to confuse and anyone following.

And then there we were, face to face.

Observation number one, with John McAfee, there is no such thing as a simple answer.

You are John McAfee?

JOHN MCAFEE, SOFTWARE PIONEEER: I think so, yes. I am John McAfee.

SAVIDGE (voice-over): He seems nervous, anxious, fidgety.

(on camera): Are you afraid?

MCAFEE: Wouldn't you be so?

SAVIDGE (voice-over): He used that "sir" thing a lot. His hair is jet black. Part of his disguise, he says, and by his own admission, he's vain, asking us to wait for the hair to dry before starting the interview. And that interview ranged from completely convincing, like when I asked about the neighbor's murder.

(on camera): Did you kill Greg Fall?

MCAFEE: I barely knew the man and why would I kill him? He was a neighbor that lived 200 yards down the beach.

SAVIDGE: Do you really believe that the government is a vendetta of government of Belize to take you down and kill you?

MCAFEE: Absolutely, sir.

SAVIDGE (voice-over): He says he is not on drugs and hasn't touched alcohol in 30 years. But he has started smoking again, which he puts down to current circumstances.

And he's not alone, running with his 20-year-old girlfriend. And McAfee, who's 67, openly speaks of many more.

MCAFEE: It's absolutely real that I had six -- how many?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: 50.

SAVIDGE (voice-over): It seemed almost surreal, right down to the coffee I drank with him. Before we started, there was one more question I had to ask of this software genius.

(on camera): Are you a smart man? I mean, I know you're an intelligent man.

MCAFEE: I don't think so. If I were smart, would I be here? I'm foolish man. I know that much.

SAVIDGE: And you know what? I believe him.

(on camera): Thank you.

MCAFEE: You're welcome.

(END VIDEOTAPE)

BANFIELD: Martin SAVIDGE joins me now live from Belize.

Martin, this is an incredible, A, story, and, B, feat of journalism. How did you find him?

SAVIDGE: It was not easy. I got to tell you. We started weeks ago coming down here and through associates, people that knew him, any way I could. And then and phone call in Atlanta and it was through a series of phone calls and conversations that I essentially had to win his trust, and one more trip back to Belize, but never really knowing if we were actually going to get the chance to interview him. It was all very much on the fly. And as you sort of heard there, very clandestine and almost strange to have the chase through town and taxi cabs and passwords and met us initially in disguise as an old man and then revealed himself to us. So you couldn't write it better. He's clearly a master showman. And it would all be funny except for the fact there's a murder of Greg Fall. And this case needs to be solved. Justice for his family is needed.

BANFIELD: He met you in disguise. This is a two-part question. Did you know it was him, looking at the old man, or did you wonder what the next -- you know, what the next chain in events would be being led to him? And also, is he still in your country, still in Belize, where you are?

SAVIDGE: Yes. Well, the disguise part, no, we weren't fooled. We were walking upstairs. He was walking down stairs, and with a cane, powder in the hair, holding his arm as if it's withered or it was just numb. And then we saw who he was but we didn't dare say anything. We didn't want to upset him. As far as, you know, where he is now, we have no idea. There had been some postings on websites that suggest he may have left the country but that's not independently confirmed. We are working to do so.

BANFIELD: Unbelievable story. Excellent work. You are certainly not considering this a vacation in that beautiful country. Phenomenal work.

Martin SAVIDGE for us. Thank you so much.

And I do want to stress, as well, police in Belize say that he is just wanted for questioning in the murder of his neighbor. But Mr. McAfee is concerned they want him more than that.

For more on the case and Martin's trek to find the pioneer, check out CNN.com.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK)

BANFIELD: What do Carmelo Anthony, Derek Jeter and Michael Jordan have in common? A-list athletes and their shoes are a really big deal. And now the man that helped to design those shoes while at Nike is reaching out in to his own community to others get a jump on that same kind of career.

Here's CNN's George Howell with Dwayne Edward's dream.

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DWAYNE EDWARDS, FOUNDER, PENSOLE FOOTWEAR DESIGN ACADEMY & FORMER NIKE EMPLOYEE: This is a snapshot of some of the products I've designed over the course of my career. This is the Air Jordan 21.

GEORGE HOWELL, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Working at Nike, Dwayne Edwards designed the signature sneaker line of superstar athletes, Carmelo Anthony, Derek Jeter, and his childhood idol, Michael Jordan. But after 11 years at Nike, Edwards walked away.

EDWARDS: The industry is close to $50 billion in the U.S. alone. And there's probably a good 3,000 to 4,000 footwear designers in the industry. But people of color underrepresented.

HOWELL (on camera): So what you're telling me, it's exposure, people knowing about the industry. And also, knowing where to go, how to maneuver your way in to positions like you had?

EDWARDS: Oh, most definitely. If you're asked to do something, you do it.

HOWELL (voice-over): That's when the father of two decided to pool resources, to open a footwear design school.

EDWARDS: I know we're at the malls purchasing the product. We have to be designing the product, as well.

HOWELL: The Pensole Footwear Design Academy opened in Portland in 2010.

And for grads like Precious Hannah, it helped her secure a job at Nike.

PRECIOUS HANNAH, STUDENT: It taught me you don't need a computer to draw shoes. Here's a pencil, here's some paper. Take it. Do what you do.

HOWELL: From women to minorities, Dwayne Edwards is inspiring a new diverse wave of shoe designers.

EDWARDS: Designing a product that goes in to a store, that's going to come and go, but impacting a life is generational.

HOWELL: All because he chose to leave a lucrative career behind him to teach others how to follow in his footsteps.

George Howell, CNN, Portland, Oregon.

(END VIDEOTAPE)

BANFIELD: So cool.

And CNN's Soledad O'Brien examines the provocative questions about skin color, discrimination and race. "Who is Black in America," premiering Sunday, December 9th, 8:00 p.m. and 11:00 p.m., right here on CNN. (COMMERCIAL BREAK)

BANFIELD: This weekend, news broke that Kansas City Chiefs player, Jovan Belcher, killed his girlfriend and then drove to the Kansas City Chiefs stadium and killed himself in front of his coaches. Let me be clear. We don't know the causes or reasons the reasons behind this tragedy in particular, but we have seen a large number of NFL players take their own lives over the last few years. Studies have shown that some of these suicides can be attributed to something called CTE, chronic traumatic encephalopathy. It's an Alzheimer's-like condition that some are attributing it to concussion-like injuries.

Our senior medical correspondent, Elizabeth Cohen, joins us now in Atlanta.

There's new information out, a new study that's making a lot of news. What is in the study, and why is it significant especially in light of what we've just seen happen over the weekend?

ELIZABETH COHEN, CNN SENIOR MEDICAL CORRESPONDENT: Researchers, Ashleigh, have been so curious to know what do the brains of these athletes with chronic traumatic encephalopathy look like. And they've done some autopsies here and there. But this, according to the researchers at Boston University, is the biggest study. It's the largest number of people. They looked at 68 brains on autopsy of people who died and had chronic traumatic encephalopathy. Most were athletes. I'll show some pictures because I think this is really going to explain what they found. The three brains on the left are normal brains. The three brains on the right are people with CTE. And what those dark spots are, Ashleigh, are actually proteins that have accumulated. Because what happens is, with repeated injuries and over the course of years, bad toxic proteins can accumulate in the brain, and that's what you are seeing on the right-hand side. That's what they found in this study at Boston University.

BANFIELD: One of the questions I have -- I'm a mom of two mall boys. I always worry about them getting into sports like hockey and football. This study looked at repeated trauma, but not necessarily repeated concussions. Because I think a lot of people think, yes, if you get a lot of concussions, you're going to have a lot of problems, but maybe not so much. Just the constant -- see what a linebacker goes through all the time, repeated -- you know, trauma that may not send you of to the sick bed.

COHEN: Exactly. That's an excellent point. It doesn't have to be repeated, huge things that put you in the hospital. And what's interesting is that the first sign of CTE can be very subtle. The B.U. researcher was telling me it might be something like just a personality change. Perhaps people do things more impulsively than they ordinarily would. And sometimes it's just chalked up to, oh, you know, he is just a guy being a guy, when, in fact, it might be the affects of CTE.

So the value of this study is that they get to see it over time. I mean, these people were 17 into 98. The youngest patient was 17. The oldest was 98. They really got to see the changes that you see over time. It gets worse with more blows, and it gets worse over time because the proteins take a while to accumulate.

BANFIELD: We should also note, Elizabeth, gets excellent information. There are the critics of this study as well.

Elizabeth, thank you. Appreciate that.

Obviously, so much more to learn. To read more about the affects of football on the brain, make sure you visit CNN.com/health.

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BANFIELD: Forget more a moment all of those record Black Friday sales. Shopping ads that are you seeing just about everywhere, and it's just December. This month also happens to be a top month for giving. That's right. Just check this out. According to the Atlas of Giving -- there is such a thing called "The Atlas of Giving" -- Americans gave almost $30 billion last December. That is nice to hear.

Maribel Aber is live at the New York Stock Exchange to talk to us about how to give and get something out of it.

There are some points on how you should give appropriately, right?

MARIBEL ABER, CNN BUSINESS CORRESPONDENT: That's right, Ashleigh. Some really good points. You know, you said $30 billion. That's a lot of money. You really want to make sure you're donating wisely. Sarah Manglish (ph), at "Money" magazine, has some tips.

First, narrow your focus. Households donate about $2500 per year. That's a lot of cash. Not if it's divided among dozens of charities. Just think, you know, there are fixed transactions and administrative costs tied to every single donation. Really stick with a few charities so you make your gift go further.

Next, you have to adjust your thinking. The rule of thumb used to be, donate to charities that keep overhead expenses just under 20 percent of their budget. But, you know what, that doesn't tell the whole story. Check out these web sites, Myphilanthropedia.com and greatnonprofits.org. They also help you understand where your money is going.

Finally, Ashleigh, pay the old-fashioned way. Credit card fees eat up your donation. Write a check or issue one online -- Ashleigh?

BANFIELD: That's great advice. And also, you could put cash into that Salvation Army jug or whatever they have when they're ringing the bell outside of just about every store.

Maribel, thank you. Happy holidays.

ABER: Thank you.

BANFIELD: Also, make sure that you check out CNNmoney.com. There's a whole lot more on that very story about just that. Thank you, everyone, for watching. I'm going to pop back about an hour from now and join you once again. But in the meantime, NEWSROOM INTERNATIONAL starts right now with my good friend, Michael Holmes.

MICHAEL HOLMES, CNN ANCHOR: As always, Ashleigh, thank you.

And welcome to NEWSROOM INTERNATIONAL. I'm Michael Holmes, sitting in for Suzanne Malveaux. As usual, we'll go around the world in 60 minutes. There is much going on in your world.

We start with this. Some breaking baby news. Kate Middleton is pregnant. Yes, I know you're thrilled. England's Prince William and his wife expecting their first child. The news broke just about an hour or so ago.

Our Richard Quest is all over it. Well, hopefully not all over it. He knows the details. Joining us from London with the latest.

I'm sure that your neck of the woods is -- and probably mine too -- agog.

QUEST: Well, yes. What an end to the year that saw the Diamond Jubilee just 18 months after the wedding. And now it's been announced that the duchess of Cambridge, Kate Middleton, is pregnant. We know that it is in the very early stages of pregnancy. It's believed to be under 12 weeks. And we also believe the reason it has been announced at this stage is because the duchess has gone into hospital and it would have become quite clear quite quickly what was going on. The duchess is in hospital. I'm not going try to give you the Latin phrase, which is in the correct pronunciation but, substantially, the duchess is suffering from severe and serious morning sickness, and that is why it was felt, at this early stage of the pregnancy, that she had to go to the King Edward XII's Hospital where she will remain for several days.

The British prime minister tweets he's delighted. The leader of the opposition says the same. And no doubt, prime ministers from realms from your end of the world to mine will be saying similar in the hours ahead, Michael?