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What's in Store at the Big Inauguration Ceremony?; Lance Armstrong Opens Up About Doping, Bullying; Manti Te'o Speaks Out About Dead Girlfriend Hoax; One American Dead, Six Free in Algeria Hostage Situation; Interview With Outgoing Secretary of the Interior Ken Salazar;

Aired January 19, 2013 - 11:00   ET

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RANDI KAYE, CNN ANCHOR: From the National Mall in Washington, this is CNN SATURDAY MORNING, everyone. It is Saturday, January 19th, good morning. So glad you're with us. I'm Randi Kaye. It's inauguration weekend here in the nation's capital.

Parades and concerts and, of course, religious services, as well, all leading up to the main event, President Obama's inauguration ceremony. We'll bring you all the festivities live.

Lance Armstrong opens up about the fallout from his lies over doping. The cyclist reveals how corporate sponsors reacted after realizing the level of his deceit.

Plus, football star Manti Te'o speaks out for the first time about the bizarre hoax involving his online girlfriend, who apparently never existed.

We are learning much more this morning about the strange case of Manti Te'o and his imaginary girlfriend. The former Notre Dame linebacker has finally broken his silence about it. Te'o spoke off camera with ESPN, saying that he was a victim and had no role at all in creating the hoax.

Now our Susan Candiotti is at Notre Dame in South Bend, Indiana, following this story for us.

Susan, what is Te'o saying now? You have some new information, I understand?

SUSAN CANDIOTTI, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Randi, I'll tell you, it is quite the story, as you indicated, again, Manti Te'o saying that he was the victim in all of this, that he was taken in by a woman's voice, a woman that he came to know and who he believed was real, even though he never met her, a hoax so elaborate, he told ESPN off camera, that he even believed there were members of her family that he was speaking with as well.

And, in fact, he said that even though he got a phone call back on December 6th from this same apparent woman that he thought he knew, claiming that she wasn't dead after all, he said he still didn't believe it until he got a phone call just a few days ago, on Wednesday of this week, from a man by a name by the name of Ronaiah Tuiasosopo, who told him that he was the alleged mastermind, that he was the hoaxster.

And, in fact, he even sent him a direct message on Twitter saying the same thing. And that is when, he said, it believed -- it was believed to have sunk in.

Now CNN has also learned the following new information: according to a source familiar with the matter, the three names that Te'o is talking about, including this Tuiasosopo and two other people, were names that were uncovered when Te'o told his story to investigators here at Notre Dame. There was an online investigation that went on.

That investigative report was turned over to Te'o's family back on January 4th. And they were told by the university to do with it as they wished.

So that is some new information. Two quotes from the ESPN interview: according to Te'o, quote, "Two guys and a girl are responsible for the whole thing." And then he added, "I even knew that it was crazy that I was with somebody that I didn't meet. And that alone people find out that this girl who died, I was so invested in, and I didn't meet her, as well."

So he acknowledged that, of course, this whole matter is humiliating for him, but he's going to try to move on from it.

Randi, without doing an on-camera interview, it's not clear whether he'll be able to completely move on.

KAYE: Yes. Very true. Good point there. Susan Candiotti for you, Susan, thank you very much.

Disgraced cyclist Lance Armstrong revealed more painful details about his years of doping and then being found out. Here in part two of his interview with Oprah Winfrey, he talks about losing $75 million in endorsements practically overnight.

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LANCE ARMSTRONG, FORMER PROFESSIONAL CYCLIST: It's terrible.

OPRAH WINFREY, TALK SHOW HOST: Do you feel disgraced?

ARMSTRONG: Of course. But I also feel humbled. I feel ashamed.

WINFREY: Yes.

ARMSTRONG: Yes. This is ugly stuff. Nike called -- and this isn't the most humbling moment. I'm going to get to that. And they said basically -- CliffsNotes here -- that they're out. OK.

And then the calls started coming, Trek, Giro, Anheuser-Busch -- just on -- and then --

WINFREY: On the same day, same couple of days?

ARMSTRONG: Yes. Couple of days. Everybody out. (END VIDEO CLIP)

KAYE: Armstrong is estimated to be worth about $100 million right now. But he could go broke as lawsuits pile up. More on that coming up in just about 20 minutes from now.

And here in Washington crowds are already gathering for what is going to be an action-packed inauguration weekend, the president's public swearing-in and inaugural speech happening on Monday. But the festivities, you can see there, already underway, big crowds gathering behind our CNN set here on the National Mall.

KAYE: Dan Lothian is here. He's covering the events.

And, Dan, I guess you can hear all the hoopla behind us --

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DAN LOTHIAN, CNN WHITE HOUSE CORRESPONDENT: That's right. It's pretty exciting.

KAYE: -- as well. It's getting pretty exciting here for sure.

LOTHIAN: That's right.

KAYE: President Obama, though, he's going to tie a record of -- on -- come Monday. He's going to tie Franklin D. Roosevelt's record of getting two -- two double swearing-in ceremonies. Hard to believe.

LOTHIAN: That's right. I mean, look back to 2009, during the swearing- in, when Justice Roberts was giving the oath, that was the public one. They stepped on each other.

KAYE: Right.

LOTHIAN: And then there was one word, faithfully, that was moved out of place. And there was some talk as to whether or not it was legitimate.

And I know at the time we asked the White House whether they would repeat it. They said no. But in fact they did. There was a second oath that was administered. It was private. It was at the White House --

KAYE: They want to make sure they get it right, right?

LOTHIAN: That's right. This time it's a different issue. According to the Constitution, the oath has to be administered just before noon on the 20th.

Well, the inauguration doesn't typically take place on a Sunday. So they will have a private ceremony on Sunday with just some family members in the Blue Room at the White House. And then on Monday you'll have the sort of official public oath administered.

KAYE: Yes. I've found it interesting, just reading in some of the research, preparing for this weekend, that an inaugural speech is actually not a requirement. But just presidents do it.

LOTHIAN: Right. That's right.

KAYE: But what do you think President Obama will hit on in terms of themes for Monday?

LOTHIAN: Well, we expect that the president will talk about some of his accomplishments but will make the point that there's still some big challenges out there. There's still a long way to go. And engage the public -- you've seen this already with some of the issues, the big issues that the White House has been dealing with.

They really bring the public into the process to help them either put pressure on Congress or to sell it to the nation.

And so we can expect the president to say, look, the public needs to be involved in order to put pressure on Congress so we can move some of the agenda forward.

KAYE: It's going to be a very interesting speech, interesting day, as well.

LOTHIAN: Exactly.

KAYE: Dan Lothian, nice to see you again. Thank you.

Former President George W. Bush was invited to the Obama inauguration. But it turns out he can't make it. Neither can his father, George H.W. Bush. Both attended the first inauguration.

The elder Bush is recovering from a month-long hospital stay due to bronchitis. And he's still getting some physical therapy, as well.

A spokesman for Bush 43 says the former president and his wife, Laura, wish the Obamas, quote, "All the best for a wonderful inaugural weekend."

Overseas now to Algeria, where seven hostages and 11 kidnappers are reported dead this morning as a hostage crisis enters its fourth day.

Algerian special forces have been trying to secure the release of an unknown number of people, including Americans, all being held at this gas plant by an Al Qaeda-linked terror group. Algerian state TV says the gunmen had been planning to take the hostages to Mali.

Senior international correspondent Dan Rivers is live in London.

Dan, so far at least one American is dead. Six have escaped or been freed.

What do we know about the other Americans being held?

DAN RIVERS, CNN SENIOR INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: I'm afraid we know very little. But in the last few minutes we've had confirmation from two different sources that the hostage standoff is now over at both the British Defense Secretary Philip Hammond's, saying that it has been brought to an end with a further loss of life.

And also the Norwegian government Ministry of Foreign Affairs confirming that the military operation is over in Algeria.

So we may begin to get some clarity, finally now, after four days, as you say, of really wildly conflicting numbers on the number of hostages taken, on the number that may have been killed, on the number of terrorists that were involved.

Finally, it seems now that Algerian special forces have regained control of that facility, killing the remaining hostage -- terrorists, but with a number of hostages being killed in the firefight.

KAYE: And, Dan, do you have any details on how some of these survivors and some of these hostages were able to escape? And what kind of condition they were in?

LOTHIAN: Amazing stories of how they evaded the terrorists. Some hid in the ceiling area. Some hid under their beds. Some of them, you know, ran for their lives as the terrorists tried to make a break for it in vehicles that were then attacked by helicopter gunships.

And one miraculous survivor, an Irishman, Stephen McFaul, was -- happened to be in the one vehicle that wasn't shot up by the helicopter. He escaped, even though he was bound and gagged and had plastic explosives around his neck. So you can imagine just how terrifying this has been for some of those hostages involved.

KAYE: Wow. That's amazing, plastic explosives strapped to them.

What do those heading this operation want? I mean, what were they looking for?

RIVERS: Well, they said to a Mauritanian news agency that they were calling for the withdrawal of French troops from Mali, which is to the south. You remember that in the last couple of weeks, French troops have deployed fairly unexpectedly to try and regain control of the north of Mali, which had been taken over by Islamists, by extremists. And they wanted to deny them that territory.

Fears among Western intelligence agencies that this could be another Afghanistan on Europe's doorstep, if I can put it like that, a terrorist state where terrorist training camps could be allowed to flourish, which could then have a direct impact on Western countries, not that far away, three or four hours' flying time.

KAYE: Dan Rivers, thank you for the update. Appreciate that.

President Obama, as we've been talking about, will start his second term on Monday. And we will take a look at what to expect, what you can expect in the next four years.

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KAYE: Welcome back, everyone, to CNN SATURDAY MORNING. Here in Washington, crowds are already gathering for what is going to be an action-packed inauguration weekend. The president's public swearing-in and inaugural speech take place Monday. But the festivities certainly well underway here on the mall. You can see the crowds are gathering there.

Well, Suzanne Malveaux is covering some of the events. She's at the National Day of Service. And she joins us now.

Suzanne, what's going on there?

SUZANNE MALVEAUX, CNN ANCHOR: Randi, you know, there are a lot of people who are here as well, I would say about -- I'd say hundreds of people inside of this tent. They're very excited about giving back to their communities.

This is where you can learn a lot from different organizations about how you can volunteer. They've got some real superstars that have gathered throughout the morning. There will be some more later on this afternoon to really bring attention, to attract folks here.

So, so far, we have seen Beau Biden, the vice president's son. He talked about the need to give back to veterans' families.

We saw Eva Longoria; she was here earlier today, talking about the need for the Latino community and some of the passions that she has.

But the -- one of the cherries (ph) of this day, of course, is the daughter of former President Bill Clinton, that is Chelsea Clinton. She was very excited, very proud, really, of her family and what her family has done when it comes to serving in the government, serving the public. She created quite a stir, a lot of people really very excited that she was here.

I want to play just a little bit of what we heard from her earlier this morning when she really kind of revved this whole thing up in this day of service. Take a listen.

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CHELSEA CLINTON, DAUGHTER OF FORMER PRESIDENT BILL CLINTON: One of the reasons I'm particularly proud of my father today is that, 19 years ago he signed the bill that made Martin Luther King Day a National Day of Service.

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CLINTON: And when he signed the bill, he reminded us of what Dr. King often called life's most persistent and urgent question: What are you doing for others?

And in my family, the only wrong answer to that question is nothing.

(END VIDEO CLIP) MALVEAUX: Nothing at all.

She also talked about her grandmother, she said, who used to teach farm workers English in southern California, that she also got that history passed along to her.

And of course, her mother, secretary of state, we all know the Clinton story.

We just saw Chelsea Clinton. She was actually signing some cards for some kids in homeless shelters and foster care that are going to be delivered later this afternoon.

And, Randi, I have to say, we have a special guest. We saw her earlier. But now she joins us live here. She needs no introduction.

Gospel great Yolanda Adams -- and I have to say I feel a little underdressed when I see.

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YOLANDA ADAMS, GOSPEL SINGER: (Inaudible) --

MALVEAUX: This is a gorgeous outfit. They told me I was going to be outdoors so -- it was beautiful. You sang three different songs. And this is -- this is really second nature for you, because you and your family are so much a part of community service.

Tell us what you hope to give, what you hope to tell people today through your words and your songs.

ADAMS: Well, all of my songs are inspirational. So I hope to inspire people to get out of their comfort zones and just give a little. It just -- you know, most of the time, all people want is your time because, you know, if you don't have the time, you can give your money, that's good.

But most of the time people need a human heart or a human hand to really understand their plight. And that's what we want to do with this National Day of Service. I am so glad that I grew up in a home where service was important.

You know, my mom, a teacher; my dad, a coach, you know. And just wonderful in the community, community service-oriented people. And so it's in the DNA, and so we try to do whatever we can when we can.

MALVEAUX: You know, it's not in everyone's DNA. Some people need a little bit of a push. It's interesting; you were part of this from the beginning. You know the Obamas personally. And you were pretty cold. You were chilly in Ohio. You spent some time out there on the campaign trail, yes?

ADAMS: I spent a lot of time on the campaign trail. And I think what all people want, they just want to be heard. They want their voices heard. Hey, listen to what I need to say to you at this moment. I'm hurting. I need a hand. I need help.

And you know, and not like we're just writing a check to give you a hand. We want to show you how to keep it moving forward. And that's what this day really is about.

MALVEAUX: You have a foundation, Voice of an Angel. I want you to use that angelic voice. Give us a little -- a couple of bars, if you will, to inspire us, moving forward in this day.

ADAMS: Well, since it's about service, I want people not to give up. So -- "Never give up on you, never ... "

MALVEAUX: Love it. Thank you, Yolanda, very much.

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MALVEAUX: No, you are.

ADAMS: Thanks for having me. I appreciate it.

MALVEAUX: My pleasure.

Randi, you heard from the best. I mean, just take that message with you. It's something that they're going to be promoting throughout the day and throughout the weekend.

KAYE: I'm going carry that tune with me all day. Suzanne, thank you very much. Appreciate you bringing us that.

Well, of course we're here in Washington because Americans are gearing up for the presidential inauguration on Monday. President Obama will be the 17th to join the exclusive club of two-term presidents, joining the ranks of Washington, Jefferson, Lincoln and Roosevelt. CNN contributor Ryan Lizza is here with me this morning.

Good morning to you.

RYAN LIZZA, "THE NEW YORKER" MAGAZINE: Good morning. You're not going ask me to sing, I hope?

KAYE: No, I don't know. Can you sing a few bars?

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KAYE: -- inspiration. Oh, come on. Make your kids proud. Come on.

All right. Well, let's talk about the next four years.

What do you think we can expect to hear from the president in his inaugural address on Monday?

LIZZA: Well, if you think back to the last two inaugural addresses for second-term presidents, Bush and Clinton or Clinton and Bush, they both used it to sort of lay out one big theme, right, not to lay out a specific partisan agenda -- that comes later in the State of the Union -- but to lay out a big theme.

Clinton's -- the famous line from Clinton's second inaugural -- well, maybe not that famous because most people don't remember these things, but it was -- we need to be repairers of the breach. So it was something about putting partisanship aside and it was a call for unity.

George W. Bush in his second inaugural, he talked about ending tyranny in the world. A big thematic goal, not a sort of narrow partisan agenda.

And so the question is, well, you know, what will Obama -- what will be the big theme of this inaugural? Most inaugurals do have the theme of unity. That's always been something that Obama has talked about.

KAYE: Something inspirational.

LIZZA: Something inspirational, some kind of call to bring politicians, who are very divided right now, together. I think you can almost guarantee that that will be a part of it.

KAYE: Well, speaking of unity, how do you expect the president in his second term -- he's certainly coming out more aggressive.

LIZZA: Yes.

KAYE: But how do you expect him to deal with Congress? I mean, he has a lot of big legislation, heavy legislation that he's talking about, guns and -- and of course the debt ceiling, all kinds of stuff going on.

LIZZA: Well, you know, it's a very unusual thing because we had an election, and then immediately we had some fierce partisan combat because of the fiscal cliff deadlines.

Usually you have a period where everyone kind of goes home after the election, then they come back in January (inaudible). We didn't have that.

So things are very hot right now in Washington. And, you know, frankly, the lesson of the December congressional session does not give one a whole lot of optimism going forward. It's going to be hand- to-hand combat where stuff only gets passed under -- when there's intense pressure, either because of a deadline or because one of the two parties is embarrassed to not act.

That's basically what happened in the lame duck session. Republicans finally pushed through that fiscal cliff bill because they were scared of the consequences if they didn't.

KAYE: Yes.

We have some noise going on here. We apologize for that noise taking place here.

LIZZA: (Inaudible) singing. KAYE: No. No -- OK. There we go. Probably a lot of testing and things going on here on the mall. But we can continue our conversation as long as the folks at home can hear us.

Gun laws and the 2nd Amendment, certainly also a very big deal for the president. Will he be able, do you think, to keep his promise to push this through?

LIZZA: It's going to be tough. I mean, this is an issue that divides not just -- well, it's an issue that has opposition not just from Republicans, who -- right now you don't see a lot of Republicans calling for unity with Obama on gun legislation.

But plenty of Democrats from conservative states or conservative congressional districts, who have so far been lukewarm to these proposals, including the majority leader in the Senate, Harry Reid. So this may be a fight that just gets started this year.

And is something that he needs to -- he needs to keep pushing for? It's -- there's a reason that Democrats haven't pushed gun control legislation in a really, really long time.

Now, some people say the politics of this have changed because of the -- especially because of Newtown, but not an easy issue to get through.

KAYE: Yes.

Another tough issue might be immigration reform. Certainly a lot of Latinos who voted for the president, 71 percent. He got that vote. They're expecting big reform and a lot to be done on their part.

Do you see that happening? I mean, they want it done because it didn't happen the first term. They want it now.

LIZZA: Absolutely. And Obama has promised that will be an immediate priority.

There is some -- there is some potential for a compromise bill being fashioned in the U.S. Senate.

You have Marco Rubio who -- who's saying some things very similar to what Democrats are saying on immigration reform. You have people like John McCain, who has a history of supporting immigration reform.

So you can see some potential for a compromise between the Senate and the White House. And then it's passed over to the House, where the politics are much trickier, because it's controlled by Republicans.

But I think that's an area where, you know, if you had to -- if you were optimistic about one issue that got solved this year on the president's agenda, I think immigration would be at the top of the list. Not easy, but there's some potential for compromise.

KAYE: All right, Ryan. You sure you don't want -- it's your last chance (inaudible) a little something for the viewers, a little sing, a little gospel (inaudible)?

LIZZA: No. Believe me, you don't want that. (LAUGHTER)

KAYE: All right. Another day, another time. Ryan Lizza, thank you. Nice to see you.

LIZZA: Nice to see you.

KAYE: All right. Now that Lance Armstrong has admitted to cheating, a lot of people want their money back. If they're successful, well, guess what? He might be left with nothing.

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KAYE: Welcome back, everyone, to the National Mall here in Washington.

We want to get back to Suzanne Malveaux. She's covering some of the events, certainly the National Day of Service, which is a big event. The vice president will be there; the president will be there. We want to check back in with her again. She has another special guest -- Suzanne.

MALVEAUX: Hey, Randi. We came across the outgoing Secretary of the Interior, Ken Salazar, who's stepping down. He is resigning. He's joining us today.

It's good to see you. I know there's a lot of excitement around this activity and this day of national service.

Give us a sense of the president's Cabinet, first of all. He has been criticized, if you will, for not opening it up and making it more diverse.

You're stepping down. We see a lot of positions, Defense, State, CIA, chief of staff going to white men.

What do you think the president needs to do to make his Cabinet more diverse?

KEN SALAZAR, SECRETARY OF THE INTERIOR: I think people should not be premature in judging what the president will do. The reality of it is that President Obama's cabinet and his staff, the first term, was very diverse, and those are his values. And that will drive his values as he assembles a team for the second term.

I have no doubt that people will know that the president will live out his values in terms of the people advising him into the second term. So it'll all be good. People ought not to be afraid.

MALVEAUX: Is there anybody who you might recommend to the president in your place who might serve both those roles as someone who is diverse but also very competent in filling your shoes? SALAZAR: You know, there are thousands of people out there who are highly qualified. And the president is working through the list of some very wonderful people. And I'm absolutely sure that we will have the very best of the brightest coming in not only to Interior but to the other places where there are vacancies, because the president's always been able to bring wonderful people around him.

And that's going to be true for the second term.

MALVEAUX: Don't want to give any names just quite yet?

SALAZAR: You know, the president -- this is a very -- these are very important decisions the president makes. And they are truly presidential decisions, because these are the positions that run the government. You know, in my position, I run -- I have responsibility over 72,000 employees, 700 million acres in the United States, the future of energy, a whole host of other things.

So it's important the president exercise his prerogative as he will to make sure that he appoints somebody that he's very comfortable with and that can do the job. And I'm sure it's going to be somebody who is exceptional.

MALVEAUX: You are very much known for your reaction to the BP oil spill and the fact that there's some -- I guess perhaps on both sides who feel that it was a middle-of-the-road approach; some environmentalists who are frustrated, some from industry who are frustrated.

But in terms of the -- kind of the tamping down on the "drill, baby, drill" idea, how do you respond to those who felt that there needs to be more oil production, that closing some of that down, some of that oil production, is not the best way forward?

SALAZAR: You know, the president has implemented and been very effective in an all-of-the-above energy strategy for the United States. And we are closer to energy security and energy independence than we have ever been in the country.

The oil spill itself in the Gulf was a test of whether or not we could live through that spill and stand up the government again. And today, the oil and natural gas coming from the Gulf is at levels that are higher than they were before the oil spill because we have moved in with such a changed, reform agenda, we're doing it in a much safer way that protects the environment and protects people.

So we're on the right track. We've overcome many crises. We know there's a lot of work still to be done in the four years ahead.

But the energy equation for the United States of America is vital to our economic and job security here in the nation, as well as to our national security and environmental interests. And so that will remain a priority interest for this president and for all of us as we continue to support this president in the next four years.

MALVEAUX: All right, Ken, best of luck to you. I'm not used to seeing you in this attire. So obviously you are -- you are more relaxed, you are ready to move on to the next big thing. You told me you want to take care of your family. That's right?

SALAZAR: Yes, I have a chapter of my life ahead of me, taking care of my family. And I intend to do that. And we'll see what the future brings. But it's truly, for me, life is a joyful journey. And my joyful journey continues.

MALVEAUX: All right. Thanks. Good to see you with the baseball cap and everything, just kind of hanging out. The best of luck to you, Ken.

SALAZAR: Thank you.

MALVEAUX: Really appreciate it.

SALAZAR: Thank you very much.

MALVEAUX: OK, thanks again.

Randi, we'll take it back to you.

KAYE: And tell Ken that I'm a big fan of the CU Buffs as well, as long as you have him there. I see the logo there on his -- on his sweatshirt. That's great.

All right.

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MALVEAUX: (Inaudible)?

KAYE: -- inauguration -- oh, the CU Buffaloes. I see the -- I just see the logo on his --

MALVEAUX: The Buffaloes -- oh, the Buffaloes.

KAYE: On his shirt.

MALVEAUX: Yes.

KAYE: Yes, there you go.

SALAZAR: (Inaudible), you know what, I'm Bison all over the place, you know?

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KAYE: You bet. Go Buffs.

SALAZAR: And it's good (inaudible), too.

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KAYE: I don't know about that. I'm a big fan of the team.

All right. Thank you very much to both of you. So the crowd in D.C., well, they're starting to gather for the inauguration. But it turns out it's going to be a lot smaller than what we saw in 2009. But there are a lot of people who feel that they must, they absolutely must make the trip.

And here's Tom Foreman with this morning's "American Journey."

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TOM FOREMAN, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): All across the nation by planes, trains and automobiles, the faithful are converging on the Capitol.

From Georgia, Maurice Madden made the journey last time to see Barack Obama take the oath. Now it will cost him about $3,000 and a couple of days' vacation, but he's going again.

MAURICE MADDEN, TRAVELING TO INAUGURATION: I knew on the night that he was re-elected as President of the United States that I wanted to return to Washington to be part of this celebration.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The President-Elect of the United States, Barack H. Obama.

FOREMAN (voice-over): The last inauguration saw 1.8 million Americans braving the freezing temperatures, the crushing crowds, to witness this quadrennial moment. This year the crowds are not expected to be as big --

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Hi. Nice to see you again. Welcome back.

FOREMAN (voice-over): But still enough to fill hotels like the historic Willard, where Steve Blum says he's met seven presidents.

STEVE BLUM, BELL CAPTAIN, THE WILLARD: I got a fist bump from Obama.

FOREMAN (voice-over): And everyone has learned that the festivities are not really about any one person.

BLUM: What we celebrate is that we are the greatest democracy on this planet and that we could have this transition of power, whether it be second term or whatever it be, like no other country can.

JIM HEWES, BARTENDER, THE Willard: You might not like the president, you might not like his politics, but he's the president. He's the only one we have.

FOREMAN (voice-over): Theodore Roosevelt in 1905 was the first president to draw massive crowds. But in 1945, Franklin Roosevelt called off the big party when World War II was raging. Historian Douglas Brinkley:

DOUGLAS BRINKLEY, HISTORIAN: But that was a very unique year, 1945. And most normal situations, even if we're in a recession or we're in a foreign war, we still throw pretty big inaugurals.

FOREMAN (voice-over): For Maurice Madden, it is mainly a big moment.

MADDEN: I do believe that if I'm blessed to live to be an old man, I will be able to look back on all of this and say I know that I was, you know, a part of American history. And that really means a lot to me.

FOREMAN (voice-over): A big part of his American journey -- Tom Foreman, CNN, Washington.

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KAYE: Welcome back, everyone.

When traveling to other cities and countries, the best way to get a real taste of the place is through the local food. CNN iReport has teamed up with "Travel and Leisure" magazine to create a global list of 100 places to eat like a local. And here's CNN's Paula Hancocks in Seoul, South Korea, with a sampling.

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PAULA HANCOCKS, CNN CORRESPONDENT: I'm Paula Hancocks in Seoul. And when I want to eat like a local here, I come downtown to this Korean barbecue restaurant called Miga -- or River of Flavor.

I'll have the assorted meat dish, please.

(Inaudible).

Korean barbecue is as much about the trimmings as it is about the meat. All of these side dishes that they give you are free and you can basically ask for as many refills as you want. You only pay for the meat.

Now here you have got the kimchi. This is the pickled vegetable dish that Korea is famous for.

And finally, the meat. (Inaudible). Now this is Hanu beef. This is from a special breed of cattle raised here in Korea. And the animals themselves are pretty much treated like royalty. Some farmers will massage them because they believe that it increases the blood flow. And others will actually feed them beer within their feed because they believe that that actually makes the meat taste juicier.

And this marbling, all the fat you can see running through the meat is very important for flavor.

This is usually a very social event, the Korean barbecue. You would have a big group of friends or work colleagues around you and you'd also usually be sampling the local tipple, which is called soju. Now this is a rice distilled liquor, it's quite similar in taste to something like vodka, but it is lunchtime so I won't be partaking.

And once the meat is cooked, then you eat. There's a process to this, though. Let me show you.

First of all, you dip the meat into the red bean paste, put it on the lettuce leaf. You can add whatever you want. It's really up to you. There's garlic. I'm going to have it raw, but you can have it cooked. Little bit of salad, anything else you fancy. And then you wrap it up, just like you wrap up a parcel, and then you pop it in your mouth.

So if you want to eat like a tourist, stick to the guide book. But if you want to eat like a local, come down to Miga.

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KAYE: So this year President Obama's inauguration is going to be on the same day as Martin Luther King Day. We'll take a look at how America has changed over the last 50 years. Stay with us.

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KAYE: In 1963, Dr. Martin Luther King gave his historic "I Have a Dream" speech. And the speech marked a turning point in the Civil Rights Movement. And on Monday, on the very day the country set aside to honor Dr. King, MLK Day, Barack Obama, America's first African- American president, will take the oath of office for the second time.

I spoke with a close friend of Dr. King's and a speechwriter who contributed to Dr. King's speech.

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CLARENCE B. JONES, SPEECH CONTRIBUTOR: -- is that it brings back some memories of 50 years ago.

The "I Have a Dream," the speech, the march on Washington, probably would not have occurred but for the demonstrations in Birmingham, Alabama. The key to understanding the history before the "I Have a Dream" speech and the march on Washington is Birmingham, Alabama because that's what turned -- that's what's elevated the conscience of the nation.

It's almost -- I was thinking about -- it was -- it was America seeing a -- young African-American boys and girls being slammed up against the wall by fire hoses and bitten by police dogs, those who were participating in Dr. King's effort to desegregate Birmingham, Alabama. That raised the question nationally as to what kind of country are we.

And it -- and so what Dr. King and other people in the Civil Rights Movement did in organizing the march was simply build upon the victories, the limited victories in Birmingham, but wanted to come together to validate what had been achieved but also to raise the national conscience.

And so I think of Birmingham, Alabama, very much like Obama -- President Obama's dealing with the question of gun violence and so forth. And it's because of Dr. King, he raised the question to the nation. We are a nation better than this.

KAYE: And that was right here on this mall.

What is the timing mean to you? Certainly as we were speaking just before the -- we came out of the commercial break, Dr. King would have turned 84 on Monday. Certainly some interesting timing here as well.

JONES: Yes. He was two years older than me. I just turned 82 the week before.

What it really -- what it really means, the confluence of the commemoration of his 84th birthday and the president's second inaugural, I see the parallel between what brought Dr. King to prominence in Birmingham, Alabama, in which he sought to raise the consciousness of the nation about the end of racial segregation and particularly against the background of all the things that happened in Birmingham.

You got to remember, I mean, on the 15th of September, four little girls lost their lives in a bombing of the 16th Street Baptist Church. You had -- you had violence --

KAYE: Right.

JONES: You had Fred Shuttlesworth, who was beaten so many times. So the question that both happened in Birmingham and is now happening tomorrow or whenever the -- of the inauguration occurs, it presents the question to the nation, are we a nation that's better than what happened to the children in Sandy Hook?

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KAYE: The first lady is well-known for setting fashion trends. We all know that. Well, guess what, we're going to find out whether her new haircut will inspire a new look among women and also what she might wear at the inaugural ball.

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KAYE: There will be plenty of outfits to watch out for at the inauguration. And in Washington, D.C., you dress to impress.

I spoke with Robin Givhan, fashion expert and Pulitzer prize-winning fashion journalist. She's also a "Washington Post" contributor. And she talked with me about the first lady's fashion and what she might wear at the inaugural ball.

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ROBIN GIVHAN, FASHION EXPERT: Her clothes have been discussed with this kind of feverish fervor that normally we reserve for celebrities, you know, for people walking down the red carpet, for, you know, the celebrity on their way to Starbucks. And I think when it translates to the first lady, there's a lot of fun with that. But I also think it sort of drains away some of the more substantive things that she could represent for the fashion industry.

KAYE: I know you were a big fan of what she wore at the first inaugural ball, the Jason Wu dress.

GIVHAN: Yes.

KAYE: What would you like to see her wear tonight? What do you expect she'll wear tonight? It's top secret, of course.

GIVHAN: Yes. Well, she told me, but I'm not telling anyone (inaudible).

You know, one of the things I loved about the Jason Wu dress was not even so much the design of it, but what it represented.

I just thought the choice of this young immigrant designer with his own business, who wasn't a big advertiser, who wasn't from this giant corporate structure, just spoke volumes about what the American fashion industry has become, the kind of businesses that are born there and that have been nurtured by the industry.

I mean, I think it sort of showed to the American public that when you talk about small business owners that the fashion industry counts in that category as well. And I think a lot of people sort of dismiss it as sort of glammy, you know, smoke-and-mirrors kind of world.

KAYE: So if we're not talking about Michelle Obama's fashions, we're going to be talking about her bangs. The first lady got bangs.

GIVHAN: Yes, she did.

KAYE: I want to ask you what you think of it. Is it good -- is it a good look for her? And do you think now that everyone -- or maybe not everyone, but certainly a lot more women -- will be going out and getting --

GIVHAN: (Inaudible).

KAYE: -- start a new bangs trend, perhaps?

GIVHAN: Well, you know, I'm going to give Mamie Eisenhower a little bit of credit because she did have, you know, quite famous bangs.

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KAYE: Yes.

GIVHAN: But I think -- I think the bangs look great. You know, I don't read anything more into them other than it's been four years. She's going into a new chapter in her public life, so why not have a new hairdo?

KAYE: Sure. Why not, right? She can pull it off. Many believe, though, that Michelle Obama has this style and a real accessibility. You know, she can wear anything from Target to Talbot's to Jason Wu.

GIVHAN: Right.

KAYE: But you once wrote -- again here --

GIVHAN: (Inaudible).

KAYE: Always. "Avoiding the appearance of queenly behavior is politically wise, but it does American culture no favors that the first lady tries so hard to be average that she winds up looking common."

I mean, I think you were writing about when the first lady was wearing shorts, right? That was a fashion faux pas.

GIVHAN: And I would add that she was stepping off of Air Force One.

KAYE: Right.

GIVHAN: And there are, like, men saluting her.

KAYE: Right.

GIVHAN: (Inaudible) she was in the shorts.

KAYE: So that was not something that you think was appropriate?

Should she be more formal as a first lady? Do you think she's managed to do that?

GIVHAN: You know, I think early on, first ladies in general are sort of loath to think of themselves as sort of removed from the average person. And I think they make an effort to sort of be normal.

But the reality is that as soon as you step into that bubble, as soon as every photo, every picture of yourself becomes part of the public record, you're no longer just normal. So I don't think that she -- you know, that they need to avoid being queenly, necessarily -- they do need to avoid that.

KAYE: Right.

GIVHAN: But I don't think that they need to try so hard to be common.

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KAYE: We will continue to bring you live coverage of the inauguration preparations in Washington. Kate Bolduan and John Berman will be joining us here in just a few minutes with much more.

But that is it for me today here on CNN SATURDAY MORNING. I'm Randi Kaye.

Before I go, our Jim Acosta, though, has a story that you haven't heard about the event and a man known as the voice of American presidential inaugurations.

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JIM ACOSTA, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): It's a tradition nearly as old as the nation itself.

And while the inaugural parade might seem routine, it takes practice.

That's why every four years, about one week before Inauguration Day comes rehearsal day: marching bands, members of the military and the Secret Service all descend on the parade route in Washington to shepherd a mock presidential motorcade from the Capitol to the White House.

(on camera): And so you can see behind me this silver Suburban, which is maybe two vehicles behind us, about a block behind us. That is the stand-in for the president's limo, and inside there is actually a stand-in for the president himself.

(voice-over): But to truly appreciate this inaugural tradition, you have to get off of the parade route --

CHARLIE BROTMAN, INAUGURAL PARADE ANNOUNCER: This is Brotman's man cave.

ACOSTA (voice-over): -- and take a trip to the basement of Charlie Brotman.

BROTMAN: The 44th President of the United States, President Barack Obama.

ACOSTA (voice-over): This spry 85-year-old Washington broadcaster has served as the announcer of every inaugural parade since Eisenhower in 1957. He's coming up on 15 in a row. And he's got a half-century of memories to go with all of his parade scripts.

BROTMAN: One of the things that I found out over the years is that the inaugural parade is an extension of the president's personality.

JOHN F. KENNEDY, FORMER PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: Ask not what America will do for you --

ACOSTA (voice-over): With Kennedy and Reagan came Hollywood celebrities.

(on camera): That must have been something.

BROTMAN: See, as the announcer, I get a really big charge out of rubbing shoulders with famous people. And so that's what happens.

ACOSTA (voice-over): But Obama, Brotman says, is different. BROTMAN: What he does, his selection is from the heart. He's bringing in high school bands, college bands that have never been in a parade, much less a presidential inaugural parade. So he's making it possible for these kids to have a memory they'll remember forever.

ACOSTA (voice-over): Carter made his mark by being the first president to walk the parade route.

(on camera): Must have been a shock for you.

BROTMAN: It was, indeed.

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ACOSTA (voice-over): Reagan, Brotman says, saved his second inaugural parade by moving it indoors, out of frigid temperatures.

BROTMAN: The Presidential Inaugural Commission basically said we can't have these kids come out here and subject them to the freezing and frostbite, so let's cancel the whole thing.

And that's when President Reagan said, wait a second, wait a second. Let's not be too hasty on this decision.

ACOSTA (voice-over): From his perch high atop the parade route, Brotman knows what's approaching the presidential reviewing stand before the president.

When I say, "Now advancing to the presidential reviewing stand, the United States Marine Corps Band," he knows when to salute, when to put a hand over the heart. He knows, you know, when to applaud.

(on camera): He's taking his cues from you.

BROTMAN: That's exactly right.

ACOSTA: That doesn't happen very much here in Washington.

BROTMAN: No, no.

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ACOSTA: You get to do it.

BROTMAN: I get to do it.

ACOSTA (voice-over): From his role on Inaugural Day to his former day job as stadium announcer for the Washington Senators baseball team, Brotman quickly became friends with many of the presidents he served. Nixon gave him this autographed baseball. Clinton gave him a hug.

BROTMAN: He grabs me with the shoulder like this and brings me in like this.

ACOSTA (voice-over): It's no wonder Charlie Brotman has volunteered his voice to this American ritual. BROTMAN: President George W. Bush and First Lady Laura Bush.

ACOSTA (on camera): Sounds to me like you wouldn't trade this for the world, this experience you've had.

BROTMAN: : If I had to, I would pay them to let me do it. I love it.

ACOSTA: Charlie Brotman got his start as the announcer for Harry Truman in 1949. He was a student at a broadcasting school when the call came in. By 1957 he had the job from then on. Charlie Brotman truly knows these parades better than the presidents themselves.

Jim Acosta, CNN, Washington.

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