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The Presidential Inauguration; Hostage Crisis Ends in Algeria
Aired January 20, 2013 - 07:00 ET
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RANDI KAYE, CNN ANCHOR: Good morning, everyone. Welcome to this very special edition of CNN SUNDAY MORNING. It is January 20th. I'm Randi Kaye.
And there's another glorious shot of the sun rising over the Capitol building.
JOHN BERMAN, CNN ANCHOR: It is breathtaking, how appropriate on this historical day. I'm John Berman. We are here live on the National Mall in Washington, as we gear up for the 57th presidential inauguration, which is today.
Today is the official swearing in of President Barack Obama for a second term as mandated by the Constitution. That will happen around 11:55 this morning.
KAYE: In a little over an hour from now, Vice President Joe Biden will take his oath of office. We'll, of course, take you there live.
All day long CNN will be bringing you the ceremonies, the concerts, the celebrations and, of course, break down the political and historical context of this very special day.
But, first, this morning, we want to bring you up to speed on this hostage situation in Algeria. This morning, the crisis at a natural gas plant is apparently over and State Department says at least one American man is dead, but we still have so many questions about this, including exactly how many people are still missing.
Let us tell you what we do know right now. The Algerian ministry says it launched a second assault yesterday that ended the three-day standoff. The interior ministry says almost 700 Algerian hostages have been freed, along with 107 foreigners. But at least 23 hostages are dead, including one American and three British citizens. So are dozens of Islamist militants.
Joining us now is Pentagon correspondent Barbara Starr.
Barbara, good morning to you. I know you have been following this and working this story. First of all, are any Americans still missing and what is Washington saying at this point?
BARBARA STARR, CNN PENTAGON CORRESPONDENT: Good morning to you, Randi. Well, yes, it is believed that a small number of Americans who may have been at the plant are still unaccounted for. The State Department confirming that one death also six other Americans apparently freed. The White House is saying it is in close contact with the Algerian government about all of this, but still, the U.S. and at least seven or eight other nations trying to work out exactly what happened, the fate of their citizens who were there, what the Algerian government did and who exactly was behind this attack.
This is now one of the key questions for the United States and intelligence services around the world. If this was al Qaeda in North Africa, which almost everyone seems to accept, it was -- what does this mean? Is this a new front on the war on terror?
This was, by all accounts, a very well-planned attack. They were heavily armed. They moved several hundred into the Algerian desert. This just didn't happen.
So, who is behind all of it and what is the current threat they now pose -- Randi.
KAYE: And, Barbara, Algerian special forces took a whole lot of heat on Thursday for launching the first attack trying to end this crisis. What are worlds saying about yesterday's attack now?
STARR: Well, you know, you are absolutely right. This has been a lot of consternation around the world about how swiftly and violently the Algerian forces cracked down on all of this. No question about it. The United States, Britain, Western allies who had citizens there saying they were not informed that the Algerian special forces were going to move in and that they moved in, perhaps, perhaps, too fast and too hard.
But that said, all of the governments from Washington to London are saying it is the fault, of course, of the attackers that the responsibility lies with them. But make no mistake, the Algerian government, very tough on militants inside that country, very swift to crack down on this. The message that they are sending, of course, is one of very tough, a very tough posture that they simply won't put up with this -- Randi.
KAYE: Terrible situation there.
Barbara Starr reporting for us this morning -- Barbara, thank you very much.
BERMAN: We have some other news now, including shocking video to show you now from a political convention in Bulgaria. We want to warn you here. This is tough to look at here.
You can see it here, a man running on to the stage pulling his gun. The amazing thing is, it failed to fire there. What luck? The would-be assassin was targeting the leader of a minority party in Bulgaria. Before he could try to fire, again, he was pushed to the ground, tackled and beaten.
KAYE: That is amazing.
Back here in the U.S., Stan the Man has died. I'm talking about baseball Hall of Famer Stan Musial. The former St. Louis Cardinal star was one of the best who ever played the game. He ranks fourth all-time in hits. Musial played 22 seasons and after his retirement became one of the game's great ambassadors. He was 92.
BERMAN: One of the consistent players, one of the classiest players ever to play in the game.
Honda announced the second most major recall and, again, it's because of a problem of their Odyssey minivans and Pilot SUVs. Honda says some of the air bags may have been put together incorrectly and may not deploy when you need them. They're recalling 750,000 vehicles.
I want to go back to the reason we're all here this morning, the 57th presidential inauguration. The public ceremonies are tomorrow but the president officially begins his second term today. It is going to be a very busy day.
Next hour, around 8:05 Eastern Time, Vice President Joe Biden will have his official swearing in. The president takes his oath of office in just a few hours just before noon Eastern and then at 8:00 tonight, the president and vice president, along with their wives will attend a candlelight celebration at the National Building Museum.
And as with any major event, security is always a big concern here. More than 13,000 troops will be in Washington to help out.
CNN Pentagon correspondent Chris Lawrence joins us now.
And, Chris, you know, we're talking about the crowd size here. Some 800,000 people. How does that affect security decisions?
CHRIS LAWRENCE, CNN PENTAGON CORRESPONDENT: It affects everything, John, from how much help the D.C. Police Department has to pull in from other departments around the country, to how many roads that they eventually closed.
You know, four years ago, most of the bridges that link Virginia and stream into D.C., those are closed to you and me because they had to be set aside for so many police officers, emergency responders, all those tour buses. Well, you're talking 10,000 tour buses descending on the city. This year, it's only 800. So, a lot of those bridges will be open, a lot easier to get into the city.
They're also going to be deputizing 2,000 to 3,000 other police officers from around the country at about noon today to help, but that's a lot fewer than they had here four years ago. Also, there's been a lot of improvements. They saw where things went wrong last time with people stuck in tunnels, unable to get to the inauguration.
Well, now, even the Secret Service is on Twitter. They're going to be putting out, you know, updates to get people where they need to go. There's just a different vibe. There were rising threats last time, a new president, 2 million people nearly coming into the city.
This time, fewer people, no credible threats. They're really concerned about getting people where they want to go and helping people to have some fun while they're here.
BERMAN: And, Chris, if you're one of the 800,000 people headed out to the National Mall for the inauguration ceremonies, anything special you should keep in mind?
LAWRENCE: Wear some comfortable shoes because you will be standing outside for quite a long time. Also, on the parade route, you know, you can't bring a thermos or a backpack. You know, if you're down there on the grounds of the Capitol, you can't bring a baby stroller. Someone was hauling around an 18-month-old for hours and hours at a time, you know, that could be tough on parents. You've got to sort of plan ahead.
The biggest thing is, you know, do not try to argue the merits of some of these rules with the security professionals. You know, you can almost hear people, hey, this is America. I'm a taxpayer, these are public areas.
But, look, they do not take kindly to those kind of arguments, especially when it concerns the security of the president. So, just be aware of that. Be a little flexible.
BERMAN: Such good -- such good advice. Comfortable shoes and zip it when it comes to dealing with the security personnel here, otherwise, it will not end well.
BERMAN: Chris Lawrence, always great to see you. Thanks so much.
And, you know, once again, we want to remind you, we are less than an hour away now from Vice President Biden's official swearing in and CNN will bring that to you live as it happens.
KAYE: It's going to be an exciting day here. We have so much going on.
The vice president, by the way, asked Supreme Court Justice Sonia Sotomayor to swear him in. And she says she is thrilled to do. We will hear from her next.
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JUSTICE SONIA SOTOMAYOR, U.S. SUPREME COURT: And what it makes me feel is, as if -- and there are many moments I still I experience it -- that I'm in a surreal moment.
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KAYE: Welcome back, everyone, to CNN SUNDAY MORNING.
Take a look here at the Washington Monument. This is a live shot there. The sun has come up here on this Inauguration Day. President Obama begins his second term officially today at noon, as mandated by the Constitution.
And in less than an hour, Vice President Biden will take his oath of office at the Naval Observatory, his official residence. We'll bring it to you live at 8:05 Eastern Time.
BERMAN: And Sonia Sotomayor, who is the first Hispanic Supreme Court justice, of course, will make history when she swears the vice president into office to begin his second third.
She talked to our Soledad O'Brien about what this moment means to her.
SOTOMAYOR: I was thinking just a couple of days ago if I think back at when I was a kid, which of the two events would have seemed more improbable to me. I realized each one was so farfetched that I couldn't have imagined either.
SOLEDAD O'BRIEN, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Supreme Court, swearing in the vice president.
SOTOMAYOR: Swearing in the vice president in front of the nation and the world.
O'BRIEN: Does it make you anxious?
SOTOMAYOR: Anxiety is not the word.
O'BRIEN: What's the word?
SOTOMAYOR: What it makes me feel is, as if -- and there are many moments I still experience it -- that I'm in a surreal moment. I -- sometimes when I'm in those really special times, I think to myself, am I dreaming? Please, nobody pinch me and wake me up. That's what I suspect I'll experience a little bit of on Monday.
O'BRIEN: How does it work? Do you go home every night and memorize it, practice it in front of the mirror.
O'BRIEN: You remember there was a little bit of a mess up four years ago for the president.
SOTOMAYOR: Well, when you read my book, you know that I practice everything I do over and over and over again. And, so, I have been saying the oath out loud for a couple of weeks now, a couple of times a day. But I won't rely on my memory either. I'll have a card with me. I like security blankets.
O'BRIEN: Preparation and security.
SOTOMAYOR: Well, you've got to do both things. You know, I talk in the book about being a lawyer. You have to prepare and prepare and prepare, and if something unexpected happens, the playbook has to go out the window and you have to create a new one on the spot.
BERMAN: Practice, practice, practice. Of course, you can catch the full interview tomorrow at 7:00 a.m. Eastern on "STARTING POINT" during our special presidential inauguration coverage.
But as we've been mentioning, you know, all morning, today is actually the official inauguration. We're less than an hour away from Vice President Biden's official swearing in. Then just before noon, President Obama himself will be sworn in. We will bring that to you live as it happens.
KAYE: And ahead, we'll talk with a White House veteran about how this inauguration is different than the 56 that have come before, as well as President Obama's legacy.
BERMAN: You are looking live at the U.S. Capitol this morning. A beautiful look at that beautiful building as the sun comes up over Washington.
It is Inauguration Day. You know, President Obama begins his second term today at noon, as mandated by the Constitution.
And in less than an hour, Vice President Biden will take his oath of office at the Naval Observatory, which, of course, is his official residence. We're going to bring that to you live at 8:05 Eastern.
KAYE: Meanwhile, Biden will be standing across from Supreme Court Justice Sonia Sotomayor when he takes his oat. And at that moment, she will become the first Hispanic justice to administer an oath at an inaugural ceremony.
BERMAN: You know, it's going to be the first of so many history- making moments that we expect to unfold in the next few days.
Who better to talk about that than Anita McBride. She was chief of staff to First Lady Laura Bush and she's worked in White Houses for a long time, way back to the Reagan administration.
You know, Anita, you have been at this for a long time. A lot of experience, a lot of time in Washington for these inaugurations and these wonderful ceremonies. How will this one be different, do you think?
ANITA MCBRIDE, FORMER CHIEF OF STAFF TO FIRST LADY LAURA BUSH: Well, they're all historic. Every single one is special and unique, particularly for the president and the president's family and the vice president and the vice president's family. But over time and over history, really, even as technology has increased and has changed, and just how it has brought to so many more people around the country and around the world. This will be -- we've come a long way from 1845 when the first one was telegraphed to now, 2013, where there's an app for that.
So, there's a lot of history throughout, you know, our country.
MCBRIDE: And, again, it's just, it's a historic moment.
KAYE: Yes, as we have been talking this morning, they had to ad cell phone towers to make sure people can get their pictures and their Instagrams out. You would never imagine all those decades ago.
MCBRIDE: That's right.
KAYE: But in terms of the first term for President Obama, do you think that he successfully established a legacy and do you think that legacy would hold in the second term or possibly change?
MCBRIDE: Well, I think, you know, there's always pressure on the president to have his mark on history and, clearly, in his first term, the focus was on domestic policy and moving the country in a direction that he felt was important.
And second terms, you know, generally do tend to have a global and a world focus. And, so, I think that will be interesting to see whether there's a pivot because clearly there are things you cannot predict and there are things going on all over the world that he has to respond to. So, I think that will be a question, were there'd be a legacy on foreign policy other than, of course, the important moment of taking on Osama bin Laden?
BERMAN: You know, second term, second inauguration especially, is such a peculiar time. It lets us take note in a way of the way the first family has lived their life in the White House. One of the things that you noted is that the Obamas like to go out to restaurants a lot. They like to eat out as opposed to the Bushes who entertained inside the White House.
How does that change the Washington scene, do you think?
MCBRIDE: Well, I think there's almost been less of that, too. As time went on, I think there was a newness when they moved into their new city and their new community and they wanted to get out and about and really be seen as members of our community family here in Washington.
But the reality is, it does get very hard to make the movements outside of the White House to disrupt the flow of traffic. Although, it is an exciting moment, you know, from time to time when they are able to do that.
So, I think, you know, the way you live your life before you came here is the way you try to live your life when you are here. KAYE: You worked very closely with Laura Bush.
MCBRIDE: I did.
KAYE: I'm just curious, this is the president's day and the vice president's day, as well. But for First Lady Michelle Obama, this is a big transition, as well. Do you see changes for her in the second term? Maybe even coming into more of her own?
MCBRIDE: And I think, you know, we now know that she almost considered not coming here in 2009 and waiting until the girls were out of school and I think that was just the trepidation of moving.
KAYE: I think it was her mom that changed that.
MCBRIDE: Absolutely. And, you know, trying to lead a private life in the public eye is not easy, especially when you have young children that you have to adjust.
But I think once, it was about nine months into the first term when the girls came home from school and said, we're really happy here and this feels like home. I think that took a lot of pressure off her and allowed her to be able now to engage in her very public roles, even though unofficial, there are a lot of pressure on first lady to deliver on issues.
BERMAN: Can I ask you the bangs question? Can I go there? Because so much focus on the last few days has been on the new hair style for Mrs. Obama. I don't want you to comment on the hairstyle. What I want to ask you about, is this the type of thing that makes a first lady go crazy?
MCBRIDE: I know, a little bit. You know, when will we ever -- you know, I'd like to ask you about your tie and your suit and all the things that you're wearing today that are different.
KAYE: A lot of pressure.
MCBRIDE: You know, it is, always. You are really conscious of the camera always being on you, but you know what? If you're confident about how you're presenting yourself, then I think you feel real good about it.
KAYE: Who is behind a decision like that? I mean, can she just go out and do that? How many people have to weigh in on that decision? I'm just curious.
BERMAN: Polls and focus groups.
KAYE: You have to do some polling and besides the president, maybe, but a lot of folks, right? You've been there.
MCBRIDE: Ultimately, you are your own CEO as first lady and you'll make the decision. But, you know, even the fact that they worked with the press and with their press secretary to release it definitely would indicate that there is some discussion going on behind the scenes.
KAYE: Will she have a legacy of her own, do you think?
MCBRIDE: I think she will. I think every first lady does. I mean, I spent my life at American University studying first ladies and we're taking this series of conferences on the road and talking about their impact. And every single one of them have come into this position not clearly prepared for what it is. And they elected by one man, as Lady Bird Johnson said, the president.
KAYE: Great way to put it.
MCBRIDE: Right. But they find their footing and they leave their mark -- every single one of them do.
BERMAN: Anita McBride, so great to have you here with us this morning. We talk to you all morning about this stuff.
MCBRIDE: Yes. Thank you. Appreciate it. Bye, bye. Have a great day.
KAYE: Nice to see you.
Supreme Court Justice John Roberts will be swearing in President Obama for the third time this morning and it's probably a good thing Justice Roberts will get in a little practice before tomorrow's private ceremony.
BERMAN: Poor guy.
KAYE: I know, you've got to feel bad for both.
So, history won't repeat itself from the 2009 inauguration flub.
CNN's Suzanne Malveaux reminds us how everything went down then and what we can expect now.
BARACK OBAMA, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: I Barack Hussein Obama do solemnly swear --
JOHN ROBERTS, SUPREME COURT CHIEF JUSTICE: That I will execute the office of the president of the United States faithfully --
OBAMA: That I will execute --
ROBERTS: Faithfully the office of the president of the United States --
OBAMA: The office of the president of the United States, faithfully.
SUZANNE MALVEAUX, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): It was a slip of the tongue, a stumble over words both President Obama, a constitutional law professor and chief justice of the Supreme Court, John Roberts, should have known like the back of their hands. But the mistake made for an awkward moment in the middle of a solemn occasion -- the swearing in of the first African-American president in front of a crowd more than a million strong on the National Mall.
Robert's flub was significant enough that the oath had to be taken again out of an abundance of caution --
ROBERTS: I, Barack Hussein Obama, do solemnly --
MALVEAUX: -- the very next day at the White House
ROBERTS: I will faithfully execute the office of president of the United States.
MALVEAUX: CNN senior legal analyst Jeffrey Toobin wrote an entire book about this awkward moment in presidential history titled "The Oath."
(on camera): Did they need, Jeff? Did they have to do it? Did they need to do it, again?
JEFFREY TOOBIN, CNN SENIOR LEGAL ANALYST: No one knows.
TOOBIN: No one knows to this day because the legal significance of the oath remains kind of a mystery. So, they just said, look, someone could file a lawsuit, someone could make trouble. We don't want to spend the first week, the first month of the Obama presidency litigating whether he is president.
MALVEAUX: Trying to sort it all out.
TOOBIN: So, let's just do it. It's slightly embarrassing, it's slightly weird. We'll do it, again. We'll put the issue behind us. And they did.
MALVEAUX (voice-over): An awkward moment between men with similar backgrounds in the law, but widely differing opinions about how it should be interpreted. Both Obama and Roberts are graduates of Harvard Law, both are known for their intellect and charm. But Roberts was tapped to sit on the Supreme Court by George W. Bush and is known as a staunch conservative who helped push through the controversial Citizens United ruling that corporations are people, too, dramatically shifting the way campaigns are funded.
(on camera): Tell me about the tension between these two men.
TOOBIN: No one would ever mistake them for friends. They are political adversaries on the most important issues and they both know it.
MALVEAUX (voice-over): But differences aside, the Roberts' court also preserved the president's signature legislative achievement in a historic ruling last June, a 5-4 vote to uphold Obamacare.
WOLF BLITZER, CNN ANCHOR: The biggest U.S. Supreme Court decision in decades.
MALVEAUX: It was a ruling Roberts took a lot of flack for.
(on camera): How significant was that that you had John Roberts who got a lot of flack for it to come out in support of Obamacare?
TOOBIN: It was immensely significant.
MALVEAUX (voice-over): But Monday when the two men meet face-to- face to take the oath for the third time, there will be another potential point of friction on the horizon, because in the president's next term, he'll likely have the chance to determine the future of Roberts' court, by choosing who will take over, if any aging justices leave.
(on camera): How important is it in terms of the future of the Roberts court that Obama is going to get a chance, the president is going to get an opportunity potentially to put somebody else on that court?
TOOBIN: It is one of the most important things about Obama winning this election, because leaving a legacy on the Supreme Court is what presidents do.
MALVEAUX (voice-over): Suzanne Malveaux, CNN, Washington.
BERMAN: Another chance for Chief Justice John Roberts today.
Stick around for more of this special coverage of this historic day.
In less one hour, Vice President Joe Biden will be sworn in officially. He will start his second term as vice president of the United States.
But on the eve of that second term, was there another gaffe for the vice president? We'll explain.
KAYE: Good morning, everyone. Welcome back to this special edition of CNN SUNDAY MORNING. It is January 20th.
Lovely shot there of the Washington Monument.
Glad you're with us. I'm Randi Kaye.
BERMAN: I'm John Berman.
Such a beautiful morning here on the National Mall where we are live this morning because today is the official swearing in of President Barack Obama for his second term. That's going to happen at 11:55 a.m. this morning, because his second term is set to start at noon as mandated by the Constitution.
KAYE: And in about half hour, Vice President Joe Biden will take his oath of office. We'll, of course, take you there live.
All day long, CNN will bring you the ceremonies, the concerts, the celebrations and, of course, the break down of the political and historical context of this important day.
BERMAN: So much to talk about. We'll be on it all day.
First, we want to bring in CNN's Athena Jones who is now live on Capitol Hill.
What is the vice president's swearing in ceremony going to be like this morning?
ATHENA JONES, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Well, we know that the vice president personally selected Supreme Court Justice Sonia Sotomayor to do the swearing in. We're told she'll be the first Hispanic and the fourth judge to do a swearing in.
We also know he will be using a family Bible -- a Bible that has been in the family since 1893. This is, we're told it's five inches thick Bible and that he used it for every swearing in he had as a U.S. senator and also used it in January of 2009.
So, those are just some of the tidbits we know about this coming swearing in.
BERMAN: So, the vice president has become something of an epic character when it comes to comity, both intentional and unintentional. And last night, he had one of those moments.
Was it a gaffe or was it perhaps foreshadowing of what's to come? Explain.
JONES: Well, I mean, I certainly think he would say it's a gaffe, but it was pretty funny. He was speaking at a party last night. It was a party put on by the state society of Iowa. So, certainly, a lot of Iowa Democrats there and you know that Iowa is a very important state in presidential elections. And he made the mistake of saying, "I'm proud to be president." The room erupted with laughter. He laughed and chuckled a little bit himself and, eventually, regained his composure and was able to go on.
But it would have been hilarious to be in the room at that moment because there is a lot of talk about what his possible desires are or goals are in 2016 -- John.
BERMAN: Everyone talking about 2016 already.
Let's talk about the weather now because, you know, it's chilly, but it's not freezing out right now. Tomorrow could be a different story.
JONES: That's right. You know, last time around in January of 2009, it was 28 degrees at noon, which is very, very cold. If you were here, you remember it being just frigid. Right now, the National Weather Service is forecasting highs in the low 40s tomorrow, but it will start out the day in the 20s. So, that means very, very cold. People are going to have to bundle up.
And the National Weather Service is also saying there is a 40 percent chance of snow showers at some point in the day.
So, it could prove very, very interesting tomorrow. We don't know when or if that will ultimately happen. But I can say that people who are coming down really should come down wearing lots and lots of layers and be as bundle up as they can be. And maybe if they have those hand warmers we all love, they should bring some of those along, as well -- John.
BERMAN: And layers and wool socks. Athena Jones, thanks very much.
BERMAN: Again, we should say that President Obama will officially be sworn in today. It is scheduled to happen at 11:55 a.m. and you will be able to see it live right here on CNN.
KAYE: But a reminder, the public ceremony is tomorrow -- the ceremony and the big speech and the parade and all that good stuff.
BERMAN: So, we're going to talk about that right now. We're joined by two of our favorite CNN contributors, Maria Cardona and Ana Navarro.
So, we'll start with Maria. We'll start with the Democrat here. They won. Privilege goes to you.
ANA NAVARRO, CNN CONTRIBUTOR: Yes, you might as well.
MARIA CARDONA, CNN CONTRIBUTOR: Thank you.
BERMAN: What do you expect from the speech tomorrow?
CARDONA: I think the president faces a couple of challenges. The first one is to emit optimism and hope, but also to be sober about what this country faces. It's not the same as it was four years ago. The excitement is not the same.
But I think at the same time, Americans are looking to him to give him that optimism, to lead with that kind of optimism and sort of go down a path of how he's going to bring this country together. That's the other huge challenge. He faces a hugely divided country, a very partisan country.
And so, he wants to be able to focus on what he can get done, make sure that the Democrats and all the progressives that supported him understand that he will stand by the principles that they supported him on. But he also wants to reach his hand out to the other side of the ideological divide and figure out how he's going to bring individuals to the cause, focusing on solutions for the country.
KAYE: Let's talk about approval ratings, because, Ana, the president comes into his second term now with an approval rating of 55 percentage, which is actually 4 points ahead of George W. Bush back in 2007, but seven points behind Bill Clinton, who was up to 62 percent in 1997.
So, with that kind of support, does he still need to reach out to the rest of the country?
NAVARRO: He absolutely does. He has four years of governing ahead of him and he's got a legacy to build. So, these next four years are incredibly important for what Barack Obama, President Obama is going to stand for in history.
I agree with Maria, it's got to be about unity. Tomorrow is a day for lofty rhetoric. It's not a day for details or policy specifics. It's a day to bring us together, to make us all feel Americans, to celebrate democracy.
You know what I think he's going to try to be? Memorable. There's very few memorable state of the -- inaugural addresses. I think Obama, who's been one of the best orators we've seen in a presidency, is going to shoot for that memorable tomorrow.
BERMAN: So, Ana, there are a lot of Democrats in town and a lot of the people, the parties, you know, today, tomorrow, will be Democrats. What do you do if you're a Republican this weekend? What's the right way to behave today, tomorrow and then going forward, do you think?
NAVARRO: Watch it on TV and eat ice cream?
KAYE: Eat bonbons on the couch.
NAVARRO: Dump your thumb in whiskey.
Let me tell you. I love the pomp and circumstance, I love the ceremony it and I love the significance. You know, both Maria and I were not born here. We come from different countries where there's been so much political strife. They're so many of us.
And so, seeing this kind of democratic transition that happens peacefully every four years time after time has such an enormous significance. For somebody like me, though I'm a Republican, had to flee a country where there was a communist revolution.
So, it's a huge day for Americans, for democracy, for the process, for peace. It's a huge day for all of us. We should all be celebrating, not the one person, not the one party, but our one country and our one democracy.
KAYE: That gets us back to unity. You talked about unity, Maria. I mean, we have seen anything but that really in Washington between the fights over the spending cuts and the tax hikes.
KAYE: Do you expect this type of relationship, we'll call it that, between the president and Congress to continue?
CARDONA: I do think there will be that antagonism. We have to be realistic about that. I also think there are certain Republicans who understand that while the president has to build a legacy, this is also about Republican legacy.
What kind of party do they want to be in the next four years? Do they just want to continue to be the party of the permanent majority in the House, which can obstruct or do they want to focus on how you build towards being a party that can actually win the White House?
This is where I think immigration reform comes in. That is a big first step for Republicans to really show that they understand, especially to the growing Latino community, what they need to do in order to bring them in and, frankly, in order to be able to build a path towards winning the White House in 2016 or even beyond.
If they don't do that, if they don't focus on trying to figure out a way to get immigration reform done, that's not going to happen in our lifetime?
KAYE: Maria and Ana, thank you so much. Nice to see you. Thanks for braving the cold out here this morning. Appreciate it.
CARDONA: Thank you.
KAYE: This weekend isn't all about the inauguration -- sleeves rolled up and chomping on some gum. The president and the first lady got to work -- yes, he really was chomping on some gum. But they got to work in a school in Washington, D.C., yesterday.
BERMAN: There it is.
KAYE: The first couple took part in the National Day of Service, a very important day here, a national holiday that's known on not a day off. That is for sure.
The Biden family also did their part. The vice president along with his wife and several members of his family spent time filling care packages, 100,000 care kits will be shipped off to troops deployed overseas as veterans, first responders and wounded warriors.
BERMAN: If you're planning on attending the inauguration here tomorrow, there are a few things you're going to want to know and do. You may want to send out some texts, a tweet or maybe even a video. And with some 800,000 people coming here, you should expect some slow service or maybe not.
We'll tell you how the wireless companies are preparing for this epic day.
KAYE: Very important stuff.
KAYE: Welcome back, everyone, to CNN SUNDAY MORNING. We are here at the National Mall in Washington, D.C., as we gear up for the 57th presidential inauguration.
BERMAN: You can see a sun-soaked capitol behind us. Man, does it look beautiful.
Today is the official swearing in of President Barack Obama for his second term. That will happen at 11:55 this morning and Vice President Biden will take his oath just a few minutes from now at 8:05.
KAYE: Tomorrow, of course, is the big public ceremony, the day President Obama stands here on the National Mall, raises his right hand and addresses millions of people around the world.
BERMAN: So, Shannon Travis, I'm told, just a stone's throw away from us somewhere behind us on the Mall. If you can squint, I think you can see him in the distance somewhere back there.
KAYE: Yes, maybe somewhere out there.
BERMAN: You know, how many people are we talking about, Shannon?
SHANNON TRAVIS, CNN POLITICAL REPORTER: John, I am a stone's throw away in this wide open field. It's empty right now but we are expecting between potentially 600 and maybe 800,000 people, John. That, obviously, is going to be a lot less in 2009 where we had almost 2 million, 1.8 million people out here.
But 600,000 or 800,000 would still be a lot for a second term inauguration -- traditionally it's a lot smaller than that. One thing a lot of people will be doing is what I have up here. I have my Facebook up here. Obviously, be trying to post a lot of pictures, a lot of videos, tweeting their friends. Hey, I'm here on the Mall for the inauguration.
But some of the wireless cell phone companies are saying, you know what, don't strain the system. They have been putting up a lot of mobile wireless cell phone towers out here to help meet some of this demand. But a few tips they're saying if you're out here and you just have to send those videos or pictures.
Text is always easier. Those go through a lot faster. But in terms of videos or pictures, they recommend if you can compress the photos a little bit to, again, get them smaller so that once it goes through, it doesn't strain the system, as much.
And, obviously, a better tip is just to save those photos and pictures for later when you're not on the Mall -- John and Randi.
BERMAN: All right. Thanks, Shannon Travis for us on the Mall.
KAYE: Those were some good tips.
BERMAN: And remember #CNN, #CNN. Everyone, do it. I encourage you.
So from Ronald Reagan standing alongside Ray Charles, to Bush 41 rocking out on the guitar, music has played such a big role in past inaugural weekends. We're going to look at some of the most memorable moments, when we come back.
KAYE: And, once again, welcome back to CNN SUNDAY MORNING with another great shot of the Capitol. So nice to see the sun coming up behind us here this morning. We had a really nice close-up view here on the National Mall all morning long.
It has been a terrific morning, wouldn't you say?
BERMAN: I loved it.
KAYE: Very inspiring.
KAYE: Very patriotic feel around here.
Coming up, by the way, in about just 15 minutes or so, Vice President Joe Biden will be sworn in for his second term and we will, of course, bring that to you live here on CNN.
BERMAN: It will be a historic moment. The first time a Hispanic Supreme Court justice will be doing the swearing in, first time. It will be at the Naval Observatory.
Wolf Blitzer will lead our coverage starting in just a few minutes. But, you know, before we get to that, we want to talk about music. Music has always played such a big role in role in these inaugural festivities.
Our Nischelle Turner takes a look at all of it, note by note.
NISCHELLE TURNER, CNN ENTERTAINMENT CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): It's become almost as symbolic as the president's speech, musical performances at presidential inaugurations. Like the halftime show during the Super Bowl, who's performing at the inauguration and the event surrounding has strengthened the bond between politics and pop culture.
DAVID GERGEN, CNN SENIOR POLITICAL ANALYST: And presidents often choose to make statements about who they are and what their dreams and aspirations are through the music, through the inaugural address or the people they bring together. TURNER: A few big names the president is bringing together this year include Beyonce, Kelly Clarkson and James Taylor. All will be singing on the steps of the Capitol.
But it was another president who, by most accounts, first welcomed popular artists to the inauguration.
JOHN F. KENNEDY, FORMER U.S. PRESIDENT: I, John Fitzgerald Kennedy, do solemnly swear --
GERGEN: The person who changed the nature of the inaugural music was John Kennedy, because he was a friend, of course, of many in Hollywood, especially Frank Sinatra. And Sinatra came in and brought and co-produced one of the great shows of inauguration.
PHIL GALLO, SENIOR CORRESPONDENT, BILLBOARD: The younger the president, the more we see a connection to pop culture and to music. Kennedy, you have it. Nixon, you don't. Jimmy Carter, you have a huge connection, especially with the Southern rock crowd. So, the Allman Brothers were in the White House.
TURNER: Ray Charles was among the many stars at President Reagan's first inaugural gala. Donna Summer and the Beach Boys joined him for his second.
George H. W. Bush took the stage himself with guitar in hand at one of his inaugural balls.
And Bill Clinton dueted with saxophonist Clarence Clemons in 1993. But what Americans remember most was the performance Clinton's campaign theme song.
TURNER: All five members of Fleetwood Mac reunited just to play in front of the Clintons, as Lindsey Buckingham recalls.
LINDSEY BUCKINGHAM, FLEETWOOD MAC: What Bill and Hillary both had to offer is people and what they were espousing, what was exciting to a lot of us. And so, we were quite pleased, as we were going out with the tag, you know, don't you look back, don't you look back, Bill comes up and Hillary comes up and shakes our hands. And it was just one of those experiences you will never forget.
TURNER: Country music was front and center at the inaugural festivities for Texan George W. Bush.
GALLO: Bush loved to portray himself as a Texas rancher. What's a Texas rancher listen to? Country.
TURNER: President Obama's upcoming celebration will spotlight country along with rock, R&B and pop. This year's lineup includes Brad Paisley, Fun, Stevie Wonder and Katy Perry -- an inclusive lineup that reflects a leader who has a diverse taste in music.
GALLO: It almost looks more like they book it had by looking at the iPod of Barack and Michelle and looking at the iPod of their daughters.
TURNER: Nischelle Turner, CNN, Hollywood.