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Justice Department Website Hacked; North Korea Threatening U.S. and South Korea; Jodi Arias' Trial Continues; Harbaugh Brothers Face Off in Super Bowl

Aired January 26, 2013 - 15:00   ET

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MIGUEL MARQUEZ, CNN: It's 3:00 p.m. on the east coast, noon out west. For those of you just joining us, welcome to CNN Newsroom. I'm Miguel Marquez in for Fredricka Whitfield. Here are the top stories we're following.

Demonstrators are rallying in Washington today demanding tougher gun laws. Several thousand activists weathered the cold temperatures to protest. The White House sent secretary of education Arne Duncan to speak on its behalf.

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ARNE DUNCAN, SECRETARY OF EDUCATION: This march is a starting point. It is not an ending point. This is about action. No more talk, if not now, when? If not us, who? We must act, we must act, we must act. On behalf of President Obama, on behalf of the vice president, we'll do everything in our power to make sure that we pass legislation that makes our children and our families, our communities safer.

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MARQUEZ: Now, demonstrators want a federal ban on the sale of military style semiautomatic rifles like the one used in the Newtown Connecticut school massacre.

A Milwaukee sheriff has some pretty scary words for residents. Sheriff David Clarke says calling 911 and waiting for the police to come and help is no longer the best option. Instead he says, people should learn to protect themselves in case they get into a dangerous situation. And here's why.

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DAVID CLARKE, SHERIFF, MILWAUKEE: With officers laid off and furloughed simply calling 911 and waiting is no longer your best option. You could beg for mercy from a violent criminal, hide under the bed or fight back. But, are you prepared? Consider taking a certified safety course in handling firearm so you can defend till we get there.

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MARQUEZ: And his message was aired earlier this week on the radio. There's been a cyber attack on the U.S. justice department. The secretive group Anonymous apparently hacked one of the bureau's web sites and took over the sites belonging to the U.S. sentencing commission. Once they had control, the group posted a message on the site. It warned of embarrassing disclosures about the justice department unless federal prosecutors stopped going after hackers.

Extreme arctic whether is making this weekend unbearable for people in the Dakotas, all the way to New England. The cold is so bitter water can't even flow out of this hydrant in New York. It turned solid as firefighters desperately chipped away at it. The national weather service is warning bitterly cold possibly deadly conditions will continue for much of the country through the week.

Let's get back to one of our big stories, the cyber attack on the justice department Web site. The group, Anonymous, apparently took over the Web site belonging to the U.S. sentencing commission.

CNN's Emily Schmidt is following the story for us.

Emily, this group often attacks in response to political events. What do you think sparked this one this time?

EMILY SCHMIDT, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Miguel, what we are hearing from this group called Anonymous, is this was sparked by the death suicide two weeks ago of a hacker named Aaron Swartz. He was an internet activist who was so well-known for what he did to advance the spread of information on the internet, but he was also facing federal computer fraud charges. It could have landed the 26-year-old in jail for about 35 years.

So, anonymous says it was time to act. In doing so it, targeted a U.S. government Web site, you may never have even looked at it before. The United States sentencing commission. Anonymous says the selection was very intentional and symbolic targeting the very agency it believes has unfairly targeted hackers.

Now, this is what the anonymous message looked like on the sentencing commission's page. It was a really long warning threatening to release sensitive information about the department of justice and what it calls warheads. These are all named after the current Supreme Court justices. The only winning move this anonymous message says is not to play.

Well, the FBI has responded. Speaking through its executive assistant director of the criminal cyber response and services branch, Richard McFeely says we were aware as soon as it happened. We're handling it as a criminal investigation. We are always concerned when someone illegally accesses another person or government agency's network.

Now, we did reach out to the department of justice. They referred us backing to that FBI statement. The cyber attack, Miguel, happened shortly after midnight. The Web site has been up and down all throughout the day.

MARQUEZ: They have -- Anonymous has obviously gone after other organizations, as well. How -- what is their track record? How effective have they been in the past? How much have they done?

SCHMIDT: Yes. We've heard their name so often, you think just back to last month when he they actually published some private information of Westborough Baptist church protesters because it was upset those protesters were going to be going to Newtown, Connecticut. So, it acted then.

Last year, it actually temporarily blocked access to some Web sites including the FBI, the department of justice, the motion picture association and the recording industry association. It did so because anonymous said it was upset that the DOJ had blocked access to a Web site that contained a lot of pirated media.

So, we have certainly seen it on act in the past but the real challenge here when you're talking about Anonymous is there's no one person, no really rigid group. It's made up of so many amorphous groups of activists it's hard to know how they are working together. But what the government does know, Miguel, is that it potentially allows these hackers to inflict damages from a lot of different directions, not just one targeted place.

MARQUEZ: Yes. Indeed, a lot of these attacks could be coming from overseas. Do you have any sense of where the investigation is right now? Who controls the Web site and how serious was this attack?

SCHMIDT: It's hard to know. The only official statement from the department of justice, the White House referred us back to the FBI statement I read to you. So the official line is very much contained to what we said.

But also, we are now more than 12 hours from when that Web site was first targeted and breached. As we said, it is still up and down, depending upon the moment that you look on it. So, we see that there is a continuing impact going on while this investigation continues.

MARQUEZ: All right, Emily Schmidt in Washington. Thank you very much for keeping track of it.

A veteran U.S. senator is calling it quits. Liberal Iowa lawmaker Tom Harkin will not seek a sixth term next year. Harkin served in the house for ten years before Iowans sent him to the Senate in 1984.

First the U.S. and now South Korea. North Korea is threatening both countries over the U.N.-imposed tougher sanctions against it. So is it just rhetoric or does North Korea really has the capability to attack?

Pentagon correspondent Barbara Starr has the details.

BARBARA STARR, CNN PENTAGON CORRESPONDENT: Miguel, the rhetoric out of North Korea is hot. But the question is how much of a threat does their nuclear program really pose?

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(SPEAKING FOREIGN LANGUAGE) STARR (voice-over): North Korea's latest saber rattling. Threatening the south just one day after Pyongyang said it will lob missiles at the U.S. and conduct a new nuclear test leave nothing doubt leader Kim Jong-un isn't giving up his father's nuclear program. U.S. might not have the advance warning of a new underground test.

LEON PANETTA, DEFENSE SECRETARY: They have the capability, frankly, to conduct these tests in a way that make it very difficult to determine whether or not they are doing it.

STARR: But there are signs they're ready to test if ordered.

JOEL WIT, JOHNS HOPKINS UNIVERSITY: The North Koreans are maintaining fairly high state of readiness at the test site. And that means that if the order is given from Pyongyang to go ahead, they can probably conduct the test in a few weeks.

STARR: Satellite imagery shows a tunnel entrance where the device may undergo final assembly, a bunker for personnel and equipment. And a communications network to make sure the order to detonate can be carried out. North Korea's weapons grade inventory is believed to include plutonium for up to 12 devices, and enough enriched uranium for six more. How dangerous is all of this?

JOSEPH CIRINCIONE, PRESIDENT, PLOUGHSHARES FUND: I still think we're years away from North Korea having a capability to deliver a nuclear warhead on a missile even to a country as close as Japan or South Korea and they're even further away from having a long-range missile that could hit the United States.

STARR: But North Korea's nuclear threat is it closer, a lot closer than Iran's. North Korea has nuclear devices, Iran does not. North Korea has weapons grade material. Iran does not. And North Korea has tested long-range missiles that could carry a nuclear warhead. Iran has not.

In a new test, the North Korean regime has to show its bomb design actually works. A 2006 test basically fizzled. A 2009 test worked better. It was half as powerful as the bomb that destroyed Hiroshima. If it went off at the U.S. capital, it would obliterate two square miles.

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STARR: Some experts believe if the pace of activity continues at the site, a nuclear test could come at any time. Miguel?

MARQUEZ: Barbara Starr, thank you.

Actor, Bert Reynolds, is said to be doing better after being hospitalized for the flu. A representative for the 76-year-old actor says Reynolds was dehydrated and placed in intensive care in a Florida hospital. He is expected to be moved to a regular room soon.

Secretary of state Hillary Clinton will soon be leaving the state department and she wrapped up her tenure firing back at Capitol Hill critics. Where will she go from here?

A big merge trial is under way. The jury has to decide if the young woman who is an accused of stubbing her boyfriend 29 times is a victim or a cold-blooded killer.

And later more than three million people get facebook updates from him every day. George Takei, the writer, director and actor who played Mr. Sulu on "Star Trek" will join us live to talk about his new book. Can't wait.

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HILLARY CLINTON, SECRETARY OF STATE: The fact is we have four dead Americans. Was it because of a protest or was it because of guys out for a walk one night who decided they would go kill some Americans? What difference at this point does it make? It is our job to figure out what happened and do everything we can to prevent it from ever happening again, senator.

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MARQUEZ: Secretary of state Hillary Clinton there, defending her ground standing it, as well during a heated Senate hearing on Benghazi, Libya. That's likely the last time she will testify at secretary of state, now that she's hanging up her diplomatic wings.

We say her wings because in her job she's logged more than one million miles flying to 112 countries, more counties than any other secretary of state. Someone who knows the secretary well is And Marie Slaughter who worked for Mrs. Clinton at the state department and is now a professor at Princeton University.

Professor, Secretary Clinton showed the fighting spirit during those Capitol Hill hearings on the Benghazi attack. Is that the real Hillary Clinton, a fighter? And how will her answers impact her political future?

ANA MARIE SLAUGHTER, PROFESSOR, PRINCETON UNIVERSITY: Well, I think that's part of who she is. She holds her ground and there she was defending the state department, defending her own desire to figure out what was wrong, and holding her ground.

But you know, that's just part of who she is. She is someone who, you know, works on behalf of the nation every single day. She can be smart, she can be warm. She can be strong. You know, she's the real deal.

MARQUEZ: And does she want to be president?

SLAUGHTER: You know, I don't even know if she knows the answer to that. She needs a rest. She truly, truly needs a rest before she thinks about the future.

MARQUEZ: Well, she's got maybe 2 1/2 years to rest up. Do you think she has -- let me come back to that because that's obviously, a question in everybody's mind, does she have it in her, do you think? Is that a role she would like to finish off with?

SLAUGHTER: Well, you know, I think he's very proud of the role she's done as secretary of state. She really has been an extraordinary secretary of state, not just the miles she's traveled, but you know, real diplomatic successes with Russia, with China and Libya. And she's really I think -- she embodies the United States to many nations in a very positive way. So I think this is a performance that she can be very proud of. And she can do anything; that I'm quite convinced of. It's just a question of what she wants her next step to be.

MARQUEZ: People across account world do have great respect for you. But, what would you say are her highest points? What can she point to, assuming she does run for the presidency in a couple of years, what can she point to say I did that? That has my signature on it.

SLAUGHTER: Well, she can point to resetting relations with Russia so that we got a start treaty which is the first nuclear arms treaty we've gotten in a long time and really the one of the first treaties that the Senate has passed in a long time. She can say look, I went toe to toe with China in a human rights crisis and got a dissident released. And she can say I was on the right side of wanting to intervene in Libya in a way that will toppled Gaddafi and really did support the Arab spring protesters. Obviously, nobody wanted what happened in Benghazi, but at the same time, the majority of the Libyan people are the most pro-American of any Arab country.

MARQUEZ: Yes, this is a woman who has had a tumultuous but fascinating life, criticized by many women for not dumping Bill Clinton in the Lewinsky affairs. She had been criticized by the conservative wing and the Republican Party for liberal positions. She even took heat from her own party when she initially supported going into Iraq, yet still one of the most admired women in the world. Why do you think that?

SLAUGHTER: I think it's because she works incredibly hard and people can see it. She said at the end of her presidential campaign that she would work for the American people. She would fight for them, and that's what we've watched her do over the past four years. So she's strong. She works hard. She's incredibly smart. I think people have seen the person, the real person, not the person manufactured by the media, and they like what they see.

MARQUEZ: John Kerry, he's -- vote will be taking place shortly. He's testified. What do you think her suggestions, recommendation were to him as he took the hot seat?

SLAUGHTER: One thing I learned working for her, I'm not going to try to put words in her mouth. But, I think his real challenge is to keep alive all the things that Secretary Clinton did that the public doesn't see -- building the tools of smart power, making sure that we have a foreign policy that can doing development as well as diplomacy that can reach out to women's groups, to youth, to entrepreneurs, to religious groups. That's the softer side. But it's also the smart side. And it's not John Kerry's natural bailiwick, but it's very important that he build on that legacy.

MARQUEZ: I take it that state department will be much different under John Kerry.

Ana Marie Slaughter, thank you very much for joining us.

SLAUGHTER: Thank you.

MARQUEZ: A woman accused of stabbing her boyfriend more than 20 times is claiming self-defense. It's one of the hottest trials going on right now. We'll dig deeper on the Jodi Arias trial with HLN's Jane Velez-Mitchell just ahead.

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WILL LARSY, 9-YEARS-OLD: One day when he drove home from a little league game, I saw a homeless man with a cardboard sign that said "need a meal." So, I told my mom I wanted to do something.

BO SODERBERGH, BANK DIRECTOR: Will Larsy is a 9-year-old child. I hesitate to call him child. I think he's in a category of his own. As a 7-year-old, he decided he was going to take on this issue of hunger.

LARSY: Welcome to frogs.

My group is called frogs and it means friends reaching our goals and our motto is having fun while helping others. I want you to write what we can do for a spring project.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Will's big personality does not come from me.

LARSY: Fire me up. Pepper me.

SODERBERGH: I think every time you meet will, you look at him and you say, are you kidding me? But together with his buddies, they have raised over $20,000 or the equivalent of 100,000 meals for Tarrant area food banks.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Man from India.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: These peaches are a delight.

SODERBERGH: When you see somebody who gets so engaged and gets so much of the community engaged, it's an endorsement of the battle we fight to end hunger.

LARSY: Thank you for taking the time to remember that no matter how tall or small, you've made a big difference.

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MARQUEZ: After years of delays, a high profile murder trial is under way in Arizona. The brutality of the case is remarkable. Travis Alexander was shot in the face, stabbed 29 times, his throat slit. Prosecutors have charged his ex-girlfriend Jodi Arias. She has admitted killing him after a tumultuous relationship and apparently claiming self-defense. And now, her lawyers have revealed their witness list and Arias is on it.

I spoke with HLN's Jane Velez-Mitchell and asked her if this defense has any chance at all.

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JANE VELEZ-MITCHELL, HLN HOST, JANE VELEZ-MITCHELL: Well, all the experts say absolutely not, but after seeing many cases where all the experts said that it was overwhelming, you look at the O.J. Simpson, the Michael Jackson child molestation trial and the Casey Anthony case where everybody was saying absolute conviction, and then there's acquittal, you never say never because in mega trials they are like runaway freight trains. You don't know what can happen.

MARQUEZ: But there is a lot of evidence against her. This is a woman who changed her story twice, who has now admitted shooting him in the face and stabbing him many times. It just seems like an open and shot case.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: It does seem like an open and shot case. She is essentially trying to pull out the rug from under the prosecution's case by admitting, owning a lot of it saying yes, I was there after lying. At first she said she wasn't there, then, she said some ninjas in mask came in and did a home invasion. And when confronted with overwhelming forensic evidence, her bloody palm print, with her blood mix mixed with victim, Travis Alexander's blood, then, she said yes, I was there. I did kill him. I did slice his throat. I did stab him 29 times. I did shoot him in the face but it was self-defense.

Now, how she's going to be able to make an argument for that, it's really hard to think of a way right now. But she is a very manipulative and adept liar. She has been caught lying I would say dozens if not more times on tape during her police interrogations. So if she takes the stand and tells some wild story, we don't know. Again, it's a wildcard when you're dealing with somebody with this ability to make up stories.

MARQUEZ: And is it her nature that's kept this thing from going to trial for four long years now?

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Yes. Well at one point, she even wanted to represent herself. So, she has used that ability to sort of massage and manipulate to delay judgment day but now it's upon us. Her big decision is, is she going to take the stand in her own defense. Now, a lot of people say she would be crazy it do that because she's been caught lying so much that this would be the longest cross-examination in history by the prosecutors pointing out each and every one of her lies. However as we saw in the Casey Anthony case, you can prove somebody's a liar that doesn't always mean you can prove that they're a murder.

MARQUEZ: She has developed a bit of a following in prison or jail after all that time. Sheriff Joe Arpaio's Maricopa County jail is not a nice place to be. But she has actually developed a life there and a following. Tell us about that.

VELEZ-MITCHELL: Well, it's absolutely wild. An investigative reporter for a local station went into the jail and all of her cell mates, all these young ladies, are holding up signs that say free Jodi.

Now, usually prisoners, people behind bars, fight with each other and they try to actually get something on the other person so they can use it as leverage to get some benefit in their own case. But in this case, she has managed to mesmerize everybody. She is spending time with behind bars. And that just speaks to they are seductive ability. We have heard that she had an incredible ability to seduce men. This is a predominantly male jury at this point until the alternates are pulled out. We don't know the final makeup. But right now, there's a lot of men on the jury. And the question is could she seduce them in some way.

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MARQUEZ: Jodi Arias' lawyers are expected to begin their defense next Tuesday when court resumes.

Actor, Ashton Kutcher, says playing Apple founder Steve Jobs was hazardous to his health. It is one of the hottest stories online. We will tell you about it just ahead.

And actor, activist and everyone's favorite funny facebook friend George Takei will join me live. He has a new book and a -- what else, unique take on his fame online.

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MARQUEZ: It's 3:30 p.m. on the east coast, 12:30 out west. For those of you just joining us, welcome to the CNN NEWSROOM. I'm Miguel Marquez.

Here's what's trending online right now. Actor, Ashton Kutcher, is suffering from pancreatic problems. He says the problems were caused by a fruit only diet to portray Steve Jobs in a new biopic "jobs." Pepsi is it is removing a controversial chemical from its Gatorade drinks. The moves followed an online petition by a teenager who wanted the chemical removed the ingredient which is found in fire retardants was used legally in Gatorade orange and lemonade. It is use to keep the flavor evenly distributed.

And super star Tina Turner is becoming a Swedish citizen. She's live inside a Zurich suburb since the '90s. The singer says she can't imagine living anywhere else. Turner is a native of Tennessee.

If there's anyone who knows about what's hot online, it's George Takei with over three million likes on facebook, over a half million followers on twitter, he is clearly the man, actor, writer, director, dancer, singer, rights activist. But, you may know him best as starship navigator Sulu, of course, from "Star Trek" and everyone's favorite real life lions and tigers and bears, oh, my. How is that for an intro? George Takei now joins us from New York to talk about his new book appropriately called "Oh My: There Goes the Internet."

Mr. Takei, thank you for being with us. Why? Why? Why? Oh my?

GEORGE TAKEI, ACTOR, STAR TREK: Well, Howard Stern made that my signature. It's a common phrase that everybody uses. But he got it on tape and whenever someone says something outrageous or eccentric, he presses a button and my voice comes on saying oh my. So I thought why not use it as the title of my book.

MARQUEZ: I'm thinking of my ring tone. Buy, you were teased by Howard Stern. Are you guys, friends? Because it is very funny what he does. But you could have taken, you know, taken that in a negative way but you turned that into gold.

TAKEI: Well, he's a great guy and someone that I admire. He's a brilliant interviewer. He won't let anyone get away with evasion or hiding or trying to not really forthrightly answer something. And if he doesn't get you to answer correctly this way, he'll answer -- I mean he'll ask this way and he'll ask that way and if he still can't get honesty, he'll ask this way. He'll get the truth one way or the other.

MARQUEZ: Yes, yes he will. Now, may I say your age?

You're 75 years old. This book is all about the Internet. What's a guy like you slumming around the corners of the Internet doing?

TAKEI: Well, people find it unusual for someone of my generation, but I had a driving reason to get myself familiar and fluent with the workings of social media. We developed a play, a musical on the internment of Japanese-Americans and to tell this story has been my life mission. And we are headed for Broadway but we wanted to build an audience for it before we opened on Broadway. And do that, you know, our subject matter is a challenging matter, subject matter to sell. It's about a dark chapter of American history, imprisoning innocent American citizens who hatched to be of Japanese ancestry during the Second World War and imprisoning us simply because we looked like the people that bombed hear harbor.

So, you know, we had a real marketing challenge. We had to get the word out. And that's what -- why I started tweeting and facebooking about two years ago. And the audience just grew exponentially. It is an amazing phenomenon how rapidly an audience grows, and how diverse and vast that, the reach of that audience can be.

And so the people out there are now well informed. And indeed, enthusiastic and excited about "Allegiance," the musical we developed coming to Broadway. And that's why I went on social media.

MARQUEZ: But then it took off, the Howard Stern stuff sort of took off. You were in the cultural consciousness beak basically. But in your book, which is very funny, I read it on the plane out here. And I mean, I was laughing at loud at points reading it. So, congratulations on that. But you really got serious about tweeting and about to being online during the tsunami in Japan, yes?

TAKEI: Well, that's the thing. You know, you can build that audience by having funny and comic and amusing things. That's how you get the friends. But with that vast audience, you have the opportunity to talk about serious things. And when the tsunami happened in Japan and the horrific tragedy and the demolition and the loss of life and enormous damage caused by the impact of the tsunami on the nuclear power plant, and the way that the Japanese responded to all that with such dignity and with such endurance, it was really impressive. And I was able to use that on social media to bring people, Americans' help to the people of Japan.

I said when something horrible like this happens, we are all Japanese or we're all Haitians or whatever, wherever the tragedy happens. And most recently, we're all people of Sandy Hook.

MARQUEZ: Yes. Oh, my, George, we do have to take a break. We will have a lot more with you just on other side. And a little later on, we're going to get you ready for the screen actor guilds awards. Who's favored to take home one of these statues?

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MARQUEZ: Oh, my. If anything ever called for an "oh my," it's that classic scene from "Star Trek." That is impressive. We're back talking with actor George Takei. He's in New York. He is also the author of the book "oh myy! There goes the Internet."

Mr. Takei, you and facebook - you tweet such funny stuff. What's the funniest thing you think you ever tweeted or the cattiest? Run us through some of those.

TAKEI: Well, you know, you can be funny and also relevant and have a commentary on social or political situations. And one of them was when a Tennessee politician tried to introduce a bill to make criminal the use of the word "gay" by teachers, which is ridiculous. It's outrageous. First of all, there is free speech in this country, the first amendment. And so, this man doesn't even know our constitution.

What I did was all right, if you're going to ban the use of the word "gay," my surname Takei rhymes with gay so just use that as a substitute for the use of gay and you won't be jailed. So you can march in a Takei pride parade or Christmastime sing don we now our Takei peril.

MARQUEZ: Yes. Good try, I suppose. That is one way to get at it. But, so --

TAKEI: The bill never made it to the floor.

MARQUEZ: It's the George Takei rule then.

So, doing it through humor obviously is something that's important. In the book you talk about your husband Brad doing so much of the work and helping you out with this endeavor because you post so much funny stuff. People wonder, do you have sort of gnomes locked up in your basement that are going trolling to find you the best stuff on the internet. How do you do it?

TAKEI: Well, yes, it's true. I do have to spend some time on a set or in a television studio or talking with print press. So I can't be doing it 24/7. What I do is, I have my hubby Brad help me with it. He's the curator. You know, all of these funny means are sent in by my fans, my friends. And I just re-share them. But it's gotten so big, that we do need help. So we have a few interns that help us out. And though they are not locked up in the basement and they don't look like gnomes, they are very disciplined energetic bright young kids.

MARQUEZ: Well, that's good to know. You put a lot of mind at rest today for that.

Now, you really take on facebook in this book which was interesting. Your analysis seems to indicate some of the problems the social networking giant has in balancing its desire to make a profit with its original focus of letting people hook up and have fun. Tell us about that side of sort of bumping up into that in the online world.

TAKEI: Well, I was puzzled because sometimes when is we posted something that we thought was particularly effective or funny, it would suddenly disappear. And so, we looked into it and then it would reappear again. And we discovered that there was a little manipulation being done by facebook. They were developing a new program that they called edge ranking. And depending on how much engagement with the fans that you have, they would not post for some of the people that weren't engaged. So it was a limited number of my friends that were getting my posts. And they offered us the opportunity to pay for getting my posts up to everybody.

And you know, I recognized that now facebook is a public company and they have stockholders to respond to. But, nevertheless you know, it was my effort and my wit and energy that built the fan and they can't arbitrary do that. So what we do is try to get as much engagement, responses and commentary and discussions going back and forth, likes and sharing, and that's what considered engagement. And so we are asking our fans to keep in touch with us regularly.

MARQUEZ: Going boldly, where no social media person has gone before, thank you, Mr. Takei, very much.

TAKEI: You are very funny, Miguel.

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MARQUEZ: His new book "oh myy! There goes the Internet" is available everywhere, so get out there and get it.

It's award season in Hollywood. Tomorrow night, Hollywood honors its best actors and actresses and gives out a lifetime achievement award. We'll tell you who's getting it.

(COMMERCIAL BREAK) MARQUEZ: Well, it is awards season for Hollywood's a list. Tomorrow night, celebrities will line the red carpet in Los Angeles for a night of glitz and glamour. I'm talking about the 19th Annual Screen Actors Guild awards. The SAG awards are chosen by actors and recognize outstanding performances in film and television.

Our movie critic, Grae Drake, from fandangomovies.com joins us today.

Before we talk about the awards though, let's talk about one award getting a lot of buzz out there. "Hyde Park on Hudson," it is about the historic time when England's royal family visits FDR's home. Let's take a quick look.

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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: So nice of you to come.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Mr. President.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Forgive me for not getting up.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: So Franklin invited them here to the country where we could all relax.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Your mother has now told me for the tenth time not to call her royal highness, Elizabeth.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Do you mind if I call you Elizabeth?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: No.

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MARQUEZ: And forgive me, Grae, you're with rottentomatos.com, not fandango.

GRAE DRAKE, SENIOR EDITOR, ROTTEN TOMATOES: Yes, that's the 2013 version.

MARQUEZ: Yes. Sorry, I didn't take my ginkgo Biloba this morning.

DRAKE: Listen, everybody has trouble with keeping up with me. Now, "Hyde Park on Hudson" is a movie everybody should watch, first and foremost because of the unbelievable performances.

Bill Murray is spectacular as FDR. He's almost unrecognizable as a comedian we have loved for decades. There's one little thing about this movie though. He was in a relationship with his distant cousin and that's what the movie kind of touches on. So it gets pretty crazy, and I was not prepared to see the great FDR in certain compromising positions. That's really throwing some people off.

MARQUEZ: Is it Bill Murray playing FDR, or is it a real FDR-like role?

DRAKE: I think he's amazing. I think that he re-creates FDR in a time when, you know, Daniel Day-Lewis is getting so many accolades for "Lincoln." We should be talking about Bill Murray, as well because he is extraordinary. Yes.

MARQUEZ: High praise. So what's it getting on the tomato meter?

DRAKE: Well, I personally loved this movie because it took larger than live figures and made them very normal and accessible. Critics aren't agreeing with me. It's 40 percent rotten right now.

MARQUEZ: Oh, that's not very good.

DRAKE: I know, too shocking I guess.

MARQUEZ: Yes. Well, let's get to SAG awards then. Who do you predict will be the best actor and best actress?

DRAKE: I think it's going to be difficult as always to beat Daniel Day-Lewis as Lincoln. An unbelievable performance, but the thing I love about the SAG awards is that this is actors honoring actors. So sometimes you get really off the wall choices as compared to other award ceremonies. So if I were a voter in the SAG awards, I would cast my vote for John Hawks in "the sessions," an unbelievable role where he plays a quadriplegic who wants very badly to experience intimate love and he calls in Helen Hunt. And I say give him some, Helen Hunt. That movie was great.

MARQUEZ: Wow. A brave choice, daring choice, may I say, Grae.

DRAKE: Thank you.

Before we go, let's talk about Dick Van Dyke. He is being honored with the SAG's lifetime achievement award. What do you think this means to him? Chim chiminey, chim chimiru?

DRAKE: I think this is long overdue for such an unbelievable figure. I've been in love with Dick Van Dyke since I was a little kid watching him trip over an ottoman. And ever since, I've learned of his so many accomplishments in stage, screen, and his philanthropy. And he is still going. This man was born, I think, in 1925 or '35. He just seems more energetic than I am. And I think this is a wonderful honor to give him. I'm sure it means the world to be honored by your peers.

MARQUEZ: And I don't want to forget, we didn't want to leave out the actress. SAG actress, who do you like?

DRAKE: I love Jessica Chastain in "Zero Dark Thirty" but Jennifer Lawrence for "silver linings." Tough competition. I say SAG, look at Helen Mirren. That lady, she is amazing in "Hitchcock." I've got my fingers crossed for her.

MARQUEZ: That was a good feel. You're always the contrarian in though, aren't you? You're not going with the basic logic.

DRAKE: You know what? It's just -- its engrained in me. And I'm sure you find that very hard to believe.

MARQUEZ: Yes, I do. That's a real stretch for me.

Thank you, my dear. Remember you can get more from Grae Drake at rottentomatos.com. And don't miss our coverage, live coverage, from the red carpet of the Screen Actors Guild awards. That's Sunday night at 6:30 right here on CNN.

Have you heard about the har-bowl two brothers? Both coaches battling for the super bowl from super bowl sidelines. So what will dinner be like at their Harbaugh house after one of them wins the NFL championship, and which coach has the upper hand, big brother John or baby brother, Jim?

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MARQUEZ: Here's a brave prediction. One coach named Harbaugh will win the super bowl. Another will lose it. That's because something that has never happened before is about to.

CNN's Brian Todd explains.

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BRIAN TODD, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): They have tried to downplay the family angle, but it's virtually impossible.

JOHN HARBAUGH, HEAD COACH, BALTIMORE RAVENS: Well, I don't think you ever put your family aside, you know, but well, yes, the priorities. Yes, we have jobs to do. You know, all of us have a job to do. Jim has a job to do, all his coaches, all our coaches, all our players. Everybody is going to focus on doing their job.

TODD: John Harbaugh is talking about the fact he and Jim are about to become the first brothers ever to be head coaches against each other in a super bowl. John's Baltimore Ravens against Jim's San Francisco 49ers. Inundated with the story, sick of it already, the family still managed to have some fun when John snuck onto a conference call his parents were having with reporters in recent days, posing just as a caller from Baltimore.

Is it true that both of you like Jim better than John?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: We do not. John?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The John Harbaugh? Hey, John.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Mom was ready to come right through this phone. I'm so happy that Joanie recognized your voice.

TODD: Sister Joanie recognizing the voice just in time. The parents vow to remain fiercely neutral on super Sunday out of fairness and also knowing what their boys are made of.

How sickly competitive are these guys?

MIKE WISE, COLUMNIST, WASHINGTON POST: If both were in the downer party, I don't know who would survive. TODD: A fire stoke while their father, Jack, spent 43 years as a high school and college football coach. The stories have become instant sports legend.

Once, when their dad was coaching Western Kentucky University, the program ran out of money, Jim, then a star NFL quarterback, and John, an assistant at the University of Cincinnati, volunteered to help the program for free. They turned it around, and nine years later, there school won a division 1AA national title.

But there's also a provocative side. In little league baseball, Jim once hit a girl batter with a pitch because she was crowding the plate. Jim's anger for opposing coach for what one thought was running up a score, and for once bouncing passed the coach while celebrating a win. In the super bowl --

Two teams with ruthless coaches, vicious defense is what if things get out of hand and there are fights?

WISE: Two Harbaughs enter the steel cage and one leaves.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: If it is a contentious game and it get ugly, I want to look at the post game hand shake. But how much is genuine and how much is, well, I have to appear like I like my brother.

TODD: Their teams went at it once before on Thanksgiving Day 2011.

JIM HARBAUGH, HEAD COACH, SAN FRANCISCO 49ERS: I'm proud of him, I love him. I'm his biggest supporter. Probably next to his wife, but you know, this week, this is something we are trying to beat.

TODD: That time, Jim's 49ers lost to John's Ravens. This time, their mom said she's hoping for a tie.

Brain Todd, CNN. Washington.

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MARQUEZ: Yes. Good luck on that tie.

Speaking of sports, Howard Kurtz sat down for an extensive interview with NBC News sportscaster Bob Costas to talk about his comments on gun control, the Manti Te'o controversy, and so much more. The interview will air tomorrow at 11:00 a.m. eastern. Here's a preview.

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BOB COSTAS, NBC NEWS SPORTSCASTER: There have been a lot of sports controversies that have broken into the headlines and network news casts. Manti Te'o sits down with Katie Couric this week to talk about the imaginary girlfriend and the hoax, his whole tangled issue of lies. Would you want to do that interview?

HOWARD KURTZ, CNN HOST, RELIABLE SOURCE: I would have been at best ambivalent, maybe leery of doing the interview because it seems to me like a tabloid story. COSTAS: It's a great story about a college football hero who said he was inspired to play harder because his girlfriend had died, and we learned that this girlfriend who he had this online relationship with never existed.

KURTZ: Yes, to me, there are two aspects that make this a story bigger than Manti Te'o, which would legitimize it. One, why is it necessary that we have all of the mythology that surrounds sports? Look, I grew up a sports fan. I bought into a lot of that mythology, and I hope some of it is still true.

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MARQUEZ: Again, you can check it all out tomorrow at 11:00 a.m. eastern on "RELIABLE SOURCES."

Ahead in our next hour is a serial killer lurking on the shores of Long Island in New York? A body has just been discovered on the island's north shore, but is it connected to ten other bodies found on the south shore? We've got the latest.

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