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Child Held Captive in Underground Bunker; Hillary Clinton's Heartfelt Goodbye; Former NYC Mayor Dead at 88; Groundhog Day!; Tracking Manti Te'o; Report: Jury Wanted to Indict Ramseys; Inside Zuckerberg's Brain; Questions Surround Clinton's Future

Aired February 2, 2013 - 07:00   ET


RANDI KAYE, CNN ANCHOR: Good morning, everyone, I'm Randi Kaye, it is 7:00 on the East Coast. Thanks so much for starting your morning with us.

We start this morning in Midland City, Alabama. That is where police have been waiting patiently for five days now. Waiting for a suspected gunman to release a 5-year-old boy that he's holding in an underground bunker. Police say it is this man, 65-year old Jimmy Lee Dykes and we're just starting to hear why he may have killed the bus driver earlier this week. But we still don't know why he grabbed the child.

Joining me now is Victor Blackwell.

Victor, good morning.

So, temperatures dipped below freezing there overnight. I guess that's probably complicated the situation a bit.

VICTOR BLACKWELL, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Yes. This is the first night it's been this cold. And we've spoken with people who live in this area of southeast Alabama. And they tell us that it typically is not this cold this time of year. It dipped below freezing, but we've spoken with sources close to the negotiating process, and they tell us that there are indications that this bunker is heated, so that these two people were safe overnight.

We've talked a lot about the accused shooter and kidnapper and the victim. But the governor of Alabama, Robert Bentley, really brought this home this is essentially about a little boy. And imagine, he's headed home on Tuesday, on a school bus, with his friends. A man climbs onboard, a man he's never seen, with a gun, shoots that driver, that's according to authorities, and snatches him and drags him into a hole. And he stays there for five days.

Listen to Governor Bentley.


GOV. ROBERT BENTLEY (R), ALABAMA: I actually spoke to the mother right after this occurred. And she was very distraught. And as a parent, myself, and just like I'm sure many of you are, it's just -- what can you say just except to cry with them and, you know -- it's difficult. (END VIDEO CLIP)

BLACKWELL: Negotiators say that there are all indications that this boy has not been harmed during this process. But, of course, you can understand the trauma of this entire ordeal. We do know that this weekend friends and relatives of the shooting victim, Charles Poland, will start to remember him. There's a family hour tonight, his funeral is tomorrow. And there are so many people expected to attend this that no single church in this area can handle the crowd. So they're holding it at a civic center in a nearby town, Randi.

KAYE: And from what I understand, investigators are -- and hostage negotiators are communicating with Jimmy Lee Dykes. How is that happening and do you know if he's said anything back?

BLACKWELL: Well, we know that they are communicating. And he has said things back. What he has said, those details have not been released publicly. But we know they're communicating through a PVC pipe that we're told Jimmy Lee Dykes built into this bunker. It's on a slant, into the bunker one end and then out near a road nearly 40, 50 feet long. So, that's how they're communicating. But the details of those conversations have not been released, Randi.

KAYE: Victor, thank you very much. We'll check back with you throughout the morning.

We have some developing news in the sports world this morning.

New York Yankees star Alex Rodriguez is facing new allegations now that he's been using performance-enhancing drugs. Earlier this week, A-Rod was linked to a Miami area clinic that dispensed banned substances. Now, ESPN is reporting that A-Rod actually got personal attention from the clinic's chief and that he actually injected Rodriguez himself. A-Rod's spokesman says it's not true.

Now, remember, these allegations date back to last year. Rodriguez had admitted to using performance-enhancing drugs 10 years ago. Several other players have been linked to the now closed clinic. Major League Baseball is investigating.

Now to security concerns at Twitter. The social media site says around 250,000 accounts were compromised by hackers. They gained access to user names and e-mail addresses. Twitter security chief says they stopped one attack as it was happening. They believe the breach may be linked to similar ones by suspected Chinese hackers on "The New York Times" and "The Wall Street Journal."

Hillary Clinton got a very special tweet from her daughter. On her final day as secretary of state, Chelsea Clinton accompanied her mother to the State Department yesterday for Mrs. Clinton's farewell. And Chelsea tweeted she was, quote, "grateful for my mom's and the remarkable State Department team's service." She added she was thankful she shared her last day as secretary of state. And she signed off, #ProudDaughter.

Hundreds of staffers packed the State Department building for Hillary Clinton's sendoff. She told them Americans lived in complex and dangerous times, but she said she is more optimistic now than she was four years ago.


HILLARY CLINTON, SECRETARY OF STATE: I am so grateful that we've had a chance to contribute in each of our ways to making our country and our world stronger, safer, fairer, and better.


KAYE: John Kerry is now officially the country's 68th secretary of state. He was sworn in yesterday by Supreme Court Justice Elena Kagan. And he's wasting no time. A U.S. official says the former senator will likely head to the Middle East on his first official overseas trip this month which stops in Egypt and Israel.

To your money now and a milestone for Wall Street, the Dow ended the week above the 14,000 mark. That is the first time that's happened since October of 2007. A positive jobs report and strong news from consumers helped to push the market higher.

To Pennsylvania now where people are gathered to see everyone's favorite groundhog. It is Punxsutawney Phil's big day. He loves the spotlight. Groundhog Day, the day where he pops out of his hole or whatever they keep him in now and he looks for his shadow. If he sees it, you know what that means? Six more weeks of winter.

But Phil isn't the only one out there today. Atlanta has General Beauregard Lee. Then there are two names, Chuck in Ohio, and Staten Island Chuck is actually Charles G. Hog.

All right. Whole lot of groundhogs out there this morning.

ALEXANDRA STEELE, AMS METEOROLOGIST: How come there are no girl groundhogs?

KAYE: You know, you're right.

STEELE: Right? For sure.

KAYE: Yes. I don't know why.

STEELE: Wilma the wizard or something like that.

KAYE: We should look into that. Let's investigate.

STEELE: For now, you're stuck with me.

KAYE: OK. We are stuck with you.

STEELE: For the record, his accuracy is not that good -- 116 years, 39 percent times, he's been accurate.

KAYE: Yours is better.

STEELE: Way better.

And 100 of the 116, he has said he's seen his shadow, meaning there'd be six more weeks of winter. Last year he did so, we ended up with the fourth warmest year on record.

So, we shall see.

But mostly cloudy skies. So, perhaps this year he won't see his shadow. So, all eyes on Punxsutawney at 7:25 this afternoon.

In terms of what we are seeing out there, we are seeing a clipper come through. Chicago, Cinci, Cleveland and Chicago, actually, snow accumulating pretty quickly. So, maybe a one, two-incher, inch and a half right now. Maybe just a little bit more, I'm on the backside of it there.

We do have the winter weather advisories. You can see where in areas of western Pennsylvania through Canada and also through Ohio. So, on the whole one to three, maybe in those elevated surfaces with those orographic lift in West Virginia and the mountains, maybe three to five, and even western Maryland, perhaps.

Big picture today, there's the snow around the Great Lakes and to the northeast. But this cold front has moved through on the whole, the country well colder than average, but pretty dry. You can see in the inner mountain west, sunny skies, high pressure there rules the roost. But there is one thing I want to talk about potentially for tomorrow night.

Now, here's the forecast rate. This is for this afternoon. What happens is an area of low pressure develops off the Carolina coast tomorrow. This is just one computer model's version. There's not a consensus here as to what could happen.

But February, notorious for East Coast snowstorms, Boston could see snow with this. They've only seen eight inches thus far. This winter, about 14 inches behind schedule.

So this computer model does bring some snow, maybe an inch or two, 2 1/2 Sunday night. So, just keeping an eye on this, and it moves out to sea. But as low and as close to the coast as this area of low pressure gets, we really could see the potential for more snow and more cities impacted in the Southeast. Southeastern areas of New England maybe from the cape in toward Long Island up toward the cape and islands, this kind of area into southern Maine.

So, we'll see what happens with this computer model, Randi, at this point.

KAYE: OK. Thank you very much.

STEELE: You're welcome.

KAYE: We've got much more ahead this hour. Here is a look at what we have coming up.


KAYE (voice-over): An iconic mayor has died, but a new film gives his memory life. I'll sit down with the documentarian who chronicled Mr. Mayor.

ED KOCH, FORMER NYC MAYOR: This belongs to me.

KAYE: It's the mystery that haunts America. Why the parents of JonBenet Ramsey were not put on trial despite an apparent indictment.

His goal to make others' lives more public. So why is Mark Zuckerberg obsessed with privacy? My interview with the author who inspired the award-winning movie "The Social Network."




KOCH: New York, the people have given me so much -- on my gravestone, I say I fiercely love the people of the city of New York.


KAYE: And the people of New York fiercely loved him back. That was the city's three-term mayor, Ed Koch, speaking to Piers Morgan less than one month ago. Mr. Koch passed away in the city he so fiercely loved. He was 88.

Known as Mr. New York, larger than life Koch was credited with giving the Big Apple its mojo back. He won his first term as mayor in 1977. When he ran for reelection, he was so popular both parties nominated him. He won a third race with 78 percent of the vote. Koch once said he wanted to be mayor for life.

Now, in a touch of irony, his death coincided with the release of a new film about his life called "Koch." Watch this.


UNIDENTIFIED MALE: He created a second life for himself. He's been a political force. He still enjoys the battle.

KOCH: People would say, oh, you must run again. You must run again. And I say, no, people threw me out and now the people must be punished.

And people love that.


KAYE: And joining me now to talk about the new documentary is the film's director, Neil Barsky.

Neil, good morning to you. So, tell us why Koch, why did you want to make this film?

NEIL BARSKY, DIRECTOR, "KOCH": We started the film in 2010. I was a young reporter in my 20s when Ed Koch was mayor in the 1980s. And I always felt that was a critical part of New York history. I think the seeds of the New York's recovery really were planted under Koch, even though the 1980s New York was beset by plagues of AIDS and crack and homelessness and graffiti.

So, I thought showing the career of Ed Koch in 1980s, I could also tell the story of New York and New York's fall and rise, if you will, and hopefully understand how we got to be the city we are today.

KAYE: Yes. And you obviously spoke with him. You conducted interviews with him for this.

What were your impressions of him? I mean, anything surprise you about him?

BARSKY: Yes. What surprised me was when we shot the -- from 2010, to 2011, what surprised me was there was so much richness to get on camera from contemporary Koch. As an 86-year-old, he had a very dynamic life. He led us into his home. He let us follow him around while he was politicking for candidates in the boroughs.

So, what we thought would start off as a historical film, also became much more personal -- personal about him, not me. So, there's sort of two stories now, the story of New York, but also, what was surprising is just how dynamic his life was as an octogenarian.

So we have sort of the story of Koch then and the story of Koch over the last several years.

KAYE: Yes. And as he said, he had this deep love, a fierce love as he called it of New York City, and arguably, brought it back from the brink of bankruptcy in the late '70s as you talk about.

But let's take a look at your film where he talks about that.



KOCH: I knew that the city was in dire peril when I ran. I also knew that of all those who were running or thinking of running, I knew more than they did.

How am I doing?



KAYE: And things did truly change. I mean, I remember when he was mayor growing up there in that area. And things really changed after he left office. BARSKY: Yes, you know, we have a sense looking back that history works out in some inevitable way. But it wasn't inevitable. A lot of cities, even Northeastern cities, stayed on their decline well past the 80s and 90s.

But New York did come back, and it came back not only because of Mayor Koch, but he certainly stabilized the finances, he injected the city with a new dose of morale. New York was really depressed in those days. It was the butt of Johnny Carson jokes and here was this larger than life guy who gave New Yorkers hope.

But at the same time, he did very substantive things. The city in the late '80s spent $5 billion rehabilitating its neighborhoods and its housing stocks. That was Koch. That's something he's less well known for. But that really laid the way for the complete rehabilitation of the city.

You don't see ruins in the South Bronx anymore. That didn't happen by itself.

KAYE: Right. Let's talk about his personal life. He was an open book about everything except his sexual orientation. He was never married. A lot of folks speculated about him.

Did he talk to you about that for the film?

BARSKY: Sure. You know, it's important part of his political biography, because ever since he was running for elective office, he's been hounded by stories that he was gay. In 1977, when he was returning against Mayor Cuomo, there were signs "Vote for Cuomo not the homo". And all through his, he was asked about it.

And we have to realize, this man was born in 1924, in 1977, when he ran for your mayor, you could be gay or you could be mayor, but you really couldn't be both. And so, I think his unwillingness to say whether or not he was gay reflects a generational aspect of him.

And he's a stubborn guy so he stayed with it through the end. So we did discuss it. And I discussed it in the context of the AIDS crisis, because a lot of gay activists felt that because he might have been in the closet, he was less prone to want to identify with a gay issue like attacking the AIDS crisis.

I said, were you ever tempted to use your platform if you were gay really to change lives? And, you know, he's been pretty steadfast, it's none of your business. He throws a little epithet around usually when he's asked. You know, what's interesting to me is not whether he's gay or was gay or wasn't gay, what's interesting was that here was a guy surrounded by New Yorkers, surrounded by the public, surrounded by friends and family. But every night he went home alone.

So it was interesting to me not whether he's gay or straight, but that he was alone every night. And we show that also.

KAYE: Yes.

BARSKY: And there's some poignancy to that, although he would've said throughout his life, he said no regret. I've had a great life.

KAYE: Yes. He certainly seems as though he did. A remarkable man, certainly left his mark.

Neil Barsky, thank you so much.

BARSKY: Thank you.

KAYE: And Koch's funeral will be held Monday at a temple on the Upper East Side.

You may have heard the accusations that Ravens superstar Ray Lewis used deer antler spray. But do you know what it is?


UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It's to spray in the air so that deer antlers don't come near you.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It's something for hunting.


KAYE: Wrong and wrong again. We'll take a look into this banned substance and the alleged health benefits.


KAYE: Boy, oh, boy, we've come a long way since then.

A huge stash, hundreds of never-before-seen pictures of the Beatles has been discovered. Take a look here. That is The Fab Four right there meeting with their guru. And the others, well, those are behind- the-scenes pictures from when the band was shooting the film "Help" in the Bahamas. The photographer recently found the negatives for the pictures and published them.

And be sure to go to where you can see more of these exclusive never-before-seen images. Really fantastic stuff there. So, be sure to check it out at

Now to Hawaii where lawmakers are proposing a new bill to protect celebrities. It is named the Steven Tyler Act after the Aerosmith front man because he's asked for protection from the paparazzi. The bill would make it illegal to photograph people in private areas. But it wouldn't stop people from taking pictures in public areas like beach. Critics say the bill is trying to convince celebs to buy property in Hawaii.

And some sad news for former first family, Barney, the Scottish terrier owned by President George W. Bush, has died. Barney was 12 years old and suffered from lymphoma. Bush recalled Barney's day showing off the White House at Christmas and his politeness towards heads of state.

But that didn't extend to everyone. Barney once bit a reporter who got just a little too close there.

All right. Let's take you back to Punxsutawney, Pennsylvania. And take a look at Punxsutawney Phil, we're waiting for him to come out of his little hole or whatever it is that he lives in to tell us if we're going to have six more weeks of winter or not. If he sees his shadow, then we will get six more weeks of winter.

It sounds like they're trying to call him out. They want to get him out there and start performing. Let's give it a second here and see. It looks like they just got him out.

It is Groundhog Day. That's why we've been watching this all morning. And he's supposed to make his appearance.

OK. There he is. What's the word?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: All hail groundhog supremacy.

KAYE: We're waiting. He's quite a celebrity, isn't he?

OK. Here's the big handoff.

Here we go. The moment of truth if we're going to be chilly.

Phil doesn't give you much of a reaction. I might have to check with Alexandra Steele on this, this morning. I don't know if we have time to wait for Phil. He's about to make his prediction.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: He's directed bill to the appropriate scroll. Reading the scroll will be Bob Roberts, his protector.

KAYE: What a show they put on.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Are we ready? Remember, if he sees his shadow, six more weeks. No shadow, spring is here.

Let's go. Hear ye, hear ye, hear ye, on this February 2nd, 2013, the 127th annual trek of the Punxsutawney Groundhog Club at Gobbler's Knob.

Punxsutawney Phil, the kind of the groundhog, seer of seers, prognosticator of prognosticators, weather prophet without fear, was awakened from his borough at 7:28 with a tap of the president's cane. Phil was lifted from his borough by his handlers and greeted by his tens of thousands of faithful followers.


UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Phil was placed upon his oak stump and nodded a happy groundhog day to his fans around the world. Surrounded by his inner circle awaiting either six more weeks winter or an early spring. Phil with his keen weather eye gazed a quizzical search to the western Pennsylvania skies.

Phil and president Deeley and Phil directed him to the chosen prognostication scroll. The president tapped the chosen scroll and directed Phil's prediction to be proclaimed: my new knob entrance is a sight to behold. Like my followers, faithful followers strong and bold. And so yes faithful, there is no shadow to see, an early spring for you and me.

KAYE: All right. You heard it there, Phil has -- he did not see his shadow, so we're going to get an early spring.

So he tells us, Alexandra Steele, let me bring you in here. What do you make of that? Should we believe this guy?

STEELE: No. Forget the fact he has a 39 percent accuracy rate, but 100 times out of the 116 thus far, he has seen his shadow, meaning six more weeks of winter. He saw it last year, we had the fourth warmest winter on record. This year, it's been incredibly cold and I think it's cloudy out there today. So we didn't really think he would see his shadow.

KAYE: Yes.

STEELE: An early spring doesn't look likely hot on the heels of temperatures we've got around the country. But, you know, we'll see. But what the build-up, right? It's been going for 50 minutes.

KAYE: Oh, I know. This is like the Academy Awards. I was waiting for the winner to be announced. I love they say he communicated with his handler in groundhog ease.


KAYE: Whatever that maybe.

STEELE: I know. And I saw my friend Jim Cantore there in the blue he's texting and taking pictures.

KAYE: Phil's a big celebrity.

STEELE: Oh, it's funny. Amazing what they've done. We'll have to see if what he sees, the myriad of other prognosticator animals across the country, we'll see what they see.

KAYE: All right. Alexander, thank you.

STEELE: We'll have to see if he sees that developing low of the coast tomorrow to see if we're going to see snow -- see if he can do that.

KAYE: No, I don't think he can.

STEELE: I don't think so.

KAYE: I don't think he's got a map to work with. Thank you very much.


KAYE: So, how did a 22-year-old man trick a college football star into thinking he was a woman? Hear the voice mails that were convincing enough to trick Manti Te'o into believing he met the love of his life. (COMMERCIAL BREAK)

KAYE: Mortgage rates continue their upward trend this week. Their highest level in 4 1/2 months. Have a look.


KAYE: Welcome back. About half past the hour now.

And now to the scandal that has captured the nation's attention. A 20- year-old man tricking Notre Dame football star Manti Te'o into believing he was not only a woman, but the love of Te'o's life.

If you're asking yourself how it could have happened. Well, take a listen to this. Te'o appeared on ABC's "Katie" and shared a voice mail he said was from his girlfriend Lennay.


"LENNAY KEKUA": Hey, babe, I'm just calling to say good night. I love you. I know you're probably doing homework or you're with the boys or grubbing -- fatty. But I just wanted to say I love you and goodnight.


KAYE: If you thought that voice sounded like a woman's, well, you fell for it too. Ronaiah Tuiasosopo told TV's Dr. Phil it was actually him on that recording. In the second part of the interview, Dr. Phil asked Tuiasosopo to do Lennay's voice to prove it with him. He agreed to do it, but only behind a privacy screen.


RONAIAH TUIASOSOPO, SAYS HE TRICKED MANTI TE'O: Hi, babe, I'm calling to say good night. I love you. I know you're probably doing homework or with the boys or grubbing -- fatty. I'll just want to say I love you and goodnight.


KAYE: Dr. Phil asked him to do the voice again. This time leaving a voicemail from his home phone while a producer from the show watched.


TUIASOSOPO: Hi, babe, I'm calling to say good night. I love you. I know you're probably doing homework or with the boys or grubbing -- fatty. I'll just want to say I love you and goodnight and I'll be OK. I'll be OK tonight. I'll do my best. Yes. So get your rest and I'll talk to you tomorrow. Love you so much, hon. Sweet dreams.


KAYE: Dr. Phil said three voice analysts who heard that last record said Tuiasosopo's voice matched the one on the voice mail. Tuiasosopo also claimed there was no malice behind pretending to be Te'o's girlfriend and even says that he fell in love with the football player.

Listen to how he describes how invested he was in the relationship.


TUIASOSOPO: Me, Ronaiah, I was hurting. It hurt me, it was like a brick, I was like, whoa, like, you know, I've given so much into this, and I realized right then in that moment that I poured so much into Lennay that I, myself, wasn't getting nothing. And look what I was left with, I was crying that morning, I was hurt, emotionally, all kinds of things took over. And so, right then and there, I made the decision I can't do this Lennay thing anymore.


KAYE: When he asked why he did it, he said the hoax had roots in sexual abuse he endured as a child.

New developments in a 17-year-old murder case. The grand jury voted to indict JonBenet Ramsey's parents. Now, that's a headline out from a Boulder, Colorado, newspaper.

The 6-year-old was found murdered in her family's Colorado home back in 1996. Nearly three years later according to the newspaper, a grand jury wanted to indict JonBenet's parents John and Patsy Ramsey. But the district attorney at the time didn't sign the indictment, claiming there was not enough evidence.

I spoke with HLN's Nancy Grace about this.


NANCY GRACE, HOST, "NANCY GRACE" ON HLN: I think it's a huge big deal. I think it's a headline, a bombshell. The fact that the grand jury voted that JonBenet's parents were liable for her death. They called that a second-degree child abuse that ended in death. I think it's incredible. And I find it just tormenting that the district attorney did not obey the grand jury.

KAYE: So Lin Wood has represented the Ramseys over the year as you know. He told us earlier this week that he thinks the grand jury didn't even have all the information they could have had. I want you to listen to this. Listen to what he said.


LIN WOOD, ATTORNEY: I think you had a grand jury that was likely confused and perhaps could've had some of that confusion cleared up if John and Patsy Ramsey had been allowed to testify before the grand jury. They offered repeatedly to do so, but they were never allowed the opportunity.


GRACE: No, I don't think the grand jury who heard all the evidence there was to present was confused. And I will say that Lin Wood is an excellent attorney and he's doing a wonderful job for his client, Mr. Ramsey. But I can tell you this, by the district attorney refusing to act on the grand jury's decision, we will never know now. That was the one shot.

KAYE: Nancy Grace, appreciate your time. Thank you so much.

GRACE: Thank you, Randi.


KAYE: And you can watch Nancy Grace weeknights 8:00 p.m. on our sister network HLN.

We are taking a special look into the brain behind a website that touches one in every seven people on the planet, the youngest billionaire in the world, Mark Zuckerberg. But here's the real question, why is someone who wants to make your life public so obsessed with his own privacy?



UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I think I've come up with something.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: That looks good. That looks really good.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: People want to go on the Internet and check out their friends. That's what Facebook is going to be about and talking about the entire social experience of college and putting it online.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: They got 2,200 hits within two hours?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: That was 22,000.


KAYE: That was a clip from the movie "The Social Network" about a college co-ed who didn't just start a social platform but a social revolution.

When Facebook went public in 2012, Mark Zuckerberg became the nation's youngest billionaire. Though the company had a rough start on Wall Street, it reported fourth quarter earnings this week that beat analyst expectations and showed a 40 percent increase in sales.

But Facebook's success hinges on the mind of its enigmatic CEO.

Ben Mezrich is the author of "Accidental Billionaires", the inspiration for the film "The Social Network."

And I asked him why there appears to be a contradiction between his personal obsession with privacy and Facebook's aim to make people's live more public.

(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE) BEN MEZRICH, AUTHOR, "THE ACCIDENTAL BILLIONAIRES": Mark Zuckerberg is enigmatic. He's definitely a complex character. But he truly believes the world is a better place if we share more information, and he wants everyone on Facebook to put as much of their personal lives on Facebook as possible. But in his own life, he doesn't want anyone to know anything about him. He wants to control the narrative.

So, he's a very private person, and yet at the same time, his whole revolution, his whole company is based on the idea of sharing more.

KAYE: He had a very famous meltdown during a 2010 interview with Kara Swisher where he was so sweaty. I mean, he was dripping. And the interview went viral. How far has Zuckerberg come, do you think, in his public face since then?

MEZRICH: Well, you know, he's changed a lot. I think they've groomed him well. He's learned a lot about publicity and how to deal with people. I think personally he's still very uncomfortable with other people. He's very socially odd, I think.

But he's definitely become more of a CEO, more of the face of a major company. Things have changed a lot for him over the last couple of years. And he is starting to be more public.

KAYE: He has been on the news that lot for non-Facebook activities, such as a $100 million donation to public education in Newark, New Jersey, and then, more recently, his pledge to hold a fundraiser for New Jersey Governor Chris Christie.

What do you think this says about his ambitions?

MEZRICH: Well, you know, I think he's always looked at a very big picture. I think Mark wants to change the world. He wants to, you know, create a revolution, and I think that's always been his thing.

So he's gotten more political and he's definitely trying to change things.

KAYE: You and many others have said that Zuckerberg is a megalomaniac. I mean, why do you think that?

MEZRICH: Well, I mean, I think -- you know, I don't mean it in a bad way. I do think he is a megalomaniac in that he wants the whole world to change based on something that he's doing. He sees Facebook as a revolution, as something that is going to affect every aspect of our lives. And he really sees the world going from a village to a city to Facebook.

And so, I do think that he wants to impact everyone in the world's life. And he is doing that. He's actually a successful megalomaniac.

KAYE: Yes, he is in a big way. He has said he idolized Steve Jobs. Is he in your opinion the next Steve Jobs? Or do you think his legacy might eclipse that of his hero?

MEZRICH: I do think he will eclipse Steve Jobs. He's not as stylish in any way as Steve Jobs and I don't think you'll see him in a turtleneck. But I do think he is going to change the world in ways that Steve Jobs only sort of started to.

Facebook is in our phones, it's in everything we carry. It's in every moment of our lives now. And I think Steve jobs was part way there, but I think Facebook will keep going with that. So I do think him idolizing jobs is kind of a framework for where he's going to go.

KAYE: And when Zuckerberg heard of your book, the accidental billionaires, you got a lot of pushback. In fact, the Facebook crowd called you the Jackie Collins of Silicon Valley.

Do you think your book and then the movie helped make him more human in people's eyes?

MEZRICH: I do. I think the book and the movie were actually a good thing for Facebook. He did call me the Jackie Collins of Silicon Valley, which I didn't mind. But I felt it was a true portrayal of him and of the company. And I think, you know, it was the beginning of Facebook.

But I do think it really captured something about the creation of that site and was very honest.


KAYE: And speaking of Facebook, the social media sites announce they're adding a gift card option for users in the U.S. That means you can get a friend card to stores and restaurants like Target and the Olive Garden. You can find out more about this on

All right. Staying with technology now, Netflix hoping it can start its own revolution with original programming. This weekend, the online movie service made the biggest bet yet releasing the $100 million series "House of Cards". The show stars Kevin Spacey as a manipulative and devious House majority whip.

Earlier, Spacey spoke about the parallels between the politics of Abraham Lincoln's era and the one in his latest show.


KEVIN SPACEY, ACTOR, "HOUSE OF CARDS": And, you know, when you watch even a current film like "Lincoln" and you see even a president who was as beloved and in some sense has been almost put in a saintly spectrum in terms of how we view him in American politics and in our history, he was there doing backdoor deals to try to get the votes he needed. So it's a very interesting opportunity for us to examine a fictional congress, a fictional majority whip who while he might be devious and diabolical, he, I believe, is going to prove to be very effective.


KAYE: All 13 episodes of "House of Cards" are available to stream right now on Netflix. Well, it's been less than 24 hours since Hillary Clinton left the State Department, and there's a ton of speculation about where her next job might land her -- the White House, perhaps.



WOLF BLITZER, CNN ANCHOR: You know, they really want you, a lot of Democrats and others, they would like you to run in 2016. I just see you smiling. So --


HILLARY CLINTON, THEN-SECRETARY OF STATE: Look, I am honored. That is not in the future for me, but obviously I'm hoping that I'll get to cast my vote for a woman running for president of our country.


KAYE: Talking with our own Wolf Blitzer last April. Clinton, of course, left that job just yesterday and questions are still swirling about her future.

CNN political editor, Paul Steinhauser, has this look.



It's the biggest question in politics: will she run? The she is now, of course, former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton. When asked in a global town hall a few days ago if she was making another bid for the White House, this was her answer.

CLINTON: I am not thinking about anything like that right now.

STEINHAUSER: And here is what she said the same day in an interview with CNN.

ELISE LABOTT, CNN FOREIGN AFFAIRS REPORTER: Have you decided that you absolutely will not run?

CLINTON: Well, I have absolutely no plans to run.


STEINHAUSER: No plans, but she isn't closing the door.

Clinton's returning to private life with some poll numbers any politician would love, nearly seven in 10 in a recent NBC/"Wall Street Journal" poll said they approve of the job she was doing as America's top diplomat. And two-thirds in a recent ABC/"Washington Post" survey said they had a favorable impression of her.

But two things, there was a partisan divide in both polls, with only a minority of Republicans giving her a thumbs up. And if she becomes a politician again, we could see those sky-high numbers come down a bit.

Clinton shouldn't be in any rush to make up her mind, says Democratic strategist and CNN contributor, Paul Begala, who is a top political adviser to President Bill Clinton.

PAUL BEGALA, CNN CONTRIBUTOR: She's not going to commit to running when I think in her heart she has not decided to. And she's got the time, she's got the support. There's no need to rush into 2016.

STEINHAUSER: If she does run, our own CNN/ORC poll indicates the obvious: she'd be the front-runner for the Democratic presidential nomination.

But we're getting ahead of ourselves. Let's let Clinton enjoy some downtime, at least for a month or two -- Randi.


KAYE: Paul, thank you very much.

A pastor's note to a waitress sparks online outrage. Wait until you hear this God-awful tip.


KAYE: Welcome back. Time now for a look at some top CNN trends on the web this morning.

It's a chance to get free tickets and annoy paying customers in the process. A theater in Rhode Island is one of the latest to set aside a special section of tweet seats where people are encouraged to live -- actually, live tweet their impression of the performance, the set, the costumes, whatever, and generate buzz.

The theater says the seats are in the back to avoid distracting others. And people are asked to remain discreet while they tweet. I don't know if that's going to work.

Katie Couric and Larry King dated? Kind of, sort of. She dished about their first and only date to Jimmy Kimmel. She says King took her to an Italian restaurant in Washington when she was 30 and he was in his 50s.

So, dying to know how smooth Larry was? Well, Katie said things got pretty awkward after they left the restaurant. Listen.


KATIE COURIC, TV HOST: Larry, where are we going? He goes, "My place." And I was like, oh, mother of God.

So we go to his apartment in Rosslyn, right? We walk in and it's covered with proclamation, Larry King Day, keys to the every city of the country, you know, like, all over the apartment.

JIMMY KIMMEL, COMEDIAN/TV HOST: Wow. COURIC: That was sexy. So, we sat there and what can I say? He lunged.


COURIC: So, I said, Larry, you're such an interesting, nice man, but I would like to meet someone closer to my own age.


KAYE: Larry said nothing happened between the two when asked about the date a few years ago.

Few jobs can be more maddening that restaurant server. You've got impatient diners, messy kids and bad tippers. Well, one waitress recently got the ultimate slight and from a woman of the cloth no less.

Jeanne Moos has the story.


JEANNE MOOS, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): If how much to tip leaves you stumped, wait till you hear the story of the waitress, the pastor and the receipt.

CHELSEA WELCH, FIRED WAITRESS: Make themselves out to kind of be a jerk, but also play the religion card as an excuse?

MOOS: Pastor Alois Bell was part of a party of 10, eating at an Applebee's in St. Louis. The pastor did not appreciate the automatic 18 percent gratuity charge to large groups, so she scrawled on the receipt, "I give God 10 percent, why do you get 18?" and signed it, "Pastor."

That was too much for waitress Chelsea Welch, who posted the receipt on the website Reddit.

WELCH: I took a picture of the note because I thought it was comically immature.

MOOS: But Pastor Bell wasn't laughing once the receipt went viral and posters started calling her.

ALOIS BELL, PASTOR: "You hypocrite pastor."

MOOS (on camera): Now Chelsea wasn't even the waitress serving that table. At the end of the night, she heard about the receipt from the actual server.

WELCH: This server calls me over and says, "You're not going to believe this."

MOOS (voice-over): The 18 percent gratuity was taken directly out of the pastor's credit card. She wrote "zero" in the space for additional tip but says --

BELL: And I put $6 on the table.

MOOS: When the "I give God 10 percent" receipt became news, the pastor called Applebee's to complain.

WELCH: That they wanted me fired, the server fired, my manager fired.

MOOS (on camera): Chelsea was fired. So, now, instead of worrying about getting tips, she could use some job-hunting tips.

(voice-over): Applebee's acknowledged Chelsea's dismissal, saying, "Our guests' personal information, including their meal check, is private. And neither Applebee's nor its franchisees have a right to share this information publicly."

Meanwhile, the pastor seems to have had a change of heart about writing the note.

BELL: That was a lapse in my judgment. I apologize for that.

WELCH: I am sorry that I violated your privacy in posting your signature.

BELL: Would I ever do that again? No, I would not ever do that again. But --

WELCH: You offended me. You offended me, you offended your server.

MOOS (on camera): The question is, what would Jesus tip?

(voice-over): And on that subject, God's not tipping his hand.

Jeanne Moos, CNN --

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: So what have you learned from all this?

BELL: I learned not to be writing on no receipts.


MOOS: -- New York.


KAYE: Thanks so much for starting your morning with us. Much more ahead on CNN SATURDAY MORNING which starts right now.