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Baseball Star Accused of Doping; Alabama Standoff Enters Fifth Day; Bitter Cold Still Gripping Parts of U.S.; Remembering Ed Koch; Football: America's Favorite Sport; Boy Held Inside Underground Bunker; Slain Prosecutor Carried Gun to Work; "American Idol" Star Falls from Grace; Reducing Chance of Heart Disease; Best Local Eats in Turkey; Dow Closes Above 14,000; Teen Gunned Down in Chicago

Aired February 2, 2013 - 11:00   ET

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RANDI KAYE, CNN ANCHOR: From the CNN Center, this is CNN SATURDAY MORNING. It is Saturday, February 2nd. Good morning, everyone, I'm Randi Kaye.

"I didn't do it," New York Yankees superstar Alex Rodriguez hitting back at reports linking him to an alleged doping ring in Florida. More on what A-Rod is saying ahead.

A terrified 5-year-old boy asking for his parents still being held captive underground in Alabama. Now new details are surfacing as to a possible motive in the high stake standoff.

And a U.S. soldier tells a harrowing story of survival on the battlefield in Iraq. The problem is, it was all a lie to win his way to "American Idol" fame.

We begin now with an update on new allegations of doping against New York Yankees star Alex Rodriguez. A-Rod is being accused of taking performance enhancing drugs from a Florida clinic. But this is not the first time. The 37-year-old has admitted in the past to doping but says he's been clean since 2003.

National correspondent Susan Candiotti is live in New York with more on this. Susan bring us up to date.

SUSAN CANDIOTTI, CNN NATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Hi, Randi. Well A-Rod is dealing with round two of a PED controversy involving a Miami clinic. Now there's another report alleging Alex Rodriguez got home visits to his Waterfront Miami mansion from a man who ran a clinic. ESPN quoting unidentified sources says that man, Anthony Bosh, injected A-Rod with performance enhancing drugs.

Once Bosh was reportedly kicked out of A-Rod's home after Bosh allegedly had trouble finding a vein. Similar drug claims were leveled earlier this week in the Miami "New Times" newspaper which say they had a diary containing notes from Bosh detailing drugs including human growth hormone given to several athletes.

Now CNN has been unable to independently see the documents in question. We went to the clinic days ago, but it's been shut down. Bosh denies all allegations. Through a spokesman, he tells CNN he did not treat nor is he associated with players including A-Rod.

Now earlier in a statement to CNN, A-Rod also says none of this is true. And through his attorneys, calls the documents about him quote "illegitimate". In a statement issued Friday night A-Rod's lawyers add this, "In regards to the new allegations made in ESPN's 'outside the line' story, we can say they are not true."

They go on to say "Alex is working diligently on his rehabilitation and is looking forward to getting back on the field as soon as possible." If you remember that A-Rod had hip surgery. A-Rod has repeatedly said he stopped taking performance enhancing drugs in 1993 -- Randi. But you see, it just won't all go away.

KAYE: Yes, it seems like it's getting a little bit uglier. What are the next steps here?

CANDIOTTI: Well of course, Major League Baseball has acknowledged that it's looking into this. And they have weighed in on this and said that that they issued a statement saying that they are investigating and that's pretty much what they also said Friday night when we reached out to them.

KAYE: All right, Susan Candiotti thank you very much for the update on that I appreciate it.

All right, now to Alabama where new details are surfacing regarding a possible motive in the tense standoff between police and a man who's holding a 5-year-old boy hostage in an underground bunker this coming on day five of the ordeal.

CNN's Victor Blackwell is following the developments Live in Midland City, Alabama. Victor at this point what are you hearing?

VICTOR BLACKWELL, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Well, I can tell you two things. We just got off the phone with the mayor of Midland City, Virgil Skipper. He's the person who immediately after the tragedy on Tuesday had been with the parents of that 5-year-old boy. I asked him if he had been in communication with the parents since. He said yes he was with them yesterday. He says they have not been allowed to come here to the sited.

And I asked about something he said that has spread, that he heard the boy crying or that this boy had been crying for his parents inside this bunker. I asked him had he been to the bunker. He told me no. I asked him had he spoken with anyone who heard the boy crying specifically. He said no. He summed it up this way. He said, "You know he's crying for his parents. He's 6 years old." Well, we know the boy is five.

So he cannot confirm that the boy is indeed crying inside this bunker. So we should clear that up. The second important thing is the news conference coming at the top of this hour. Again, every news conference was canceled on Thursday. Any news conference that happened on Friday they didn't offer anything new. So I sent a message to the PIO, public information officer here and I said, should we expect any new information at this news conference at the top of the hour and he told me, yes, there will be a few new, as he called them, nuggets coming out. Again, that's in just a few minutes from now at the top of the hour -- Randi.

KAYE: All right, Victor, thank you very much for the update. We'll keep an eye out for the news conference.

California's parole board is recommending freedom for one of Charles Manson's convicted followers, 70-year-old Bruce Davis was sentenced to life in prison back in 1972 for the murders of two men. He was not involved in the more infamous murder of actress Sharon Tate. California Governor Jerry Brown has 30 days to decide whether to release Davis. If freed he would be the first convicted Manson family member to leave prison.

In Egypt, soccer players are kicking off their season today to an empty stadium. It's not that fans don't want to be there. Spectators are not allowed, and security is tight after 74 people were killed in a deadly riot following a game last year in port Sayed. Last week, 21 people were sentenced to death in the riots, sparking new protests in several cities.

In Cairo last night, demonstrators threw rocks and Molotov cocktails at security forces, igniting a fire outside the presidential palace.

If you have a Twitter account, you'll want to pay attention to this. The social media Web site says it has been hacked. And about 250,000 accounts are compromised. The company says it discovered the breach earlier this week.

Well the groundhogs had their say. Is spring near, or will we have six more weeks of winter? We'll tell you what Phil and Chuck predicted.

His contributions to New York are well-known. Now the man behind the documentary on former Mayor Ed Koch brings us more personal stories from Mr. New York.

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KAYE: Welcome back. Just about ten minutes passed the hour now.

And it is Groundhog Day. The day where we find out if we'll have an early spring or six more weeks of winter. And who better to predict what's to come than the legendary prognosticator, Punxsutawney Phil.

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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: And so ye faithful, there is no shadow to see, an early spring for you and me.

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KAYE: Oh yes. You heard it there. What Phil had to say? But what about Chuck, the groundhog? He's Staten Island zoo's prognosticator and he also predicts an early spring. So at least they agree.

The Groundhogs say spring is near, but don't tell that to the folks in the upper Midwest and the northeast. Meteorologist Alexandra Steele is here this morning. And I think your record is better than Chuck or Punxsutawney Phil?

ALEXANDRA STEELE, AMS METEOROLOGIST: Well Phil is 39 percent at best.

KAYE: Yes.

STEELE: Ok well Beauregard Lee, that's our prognosticator here in Georgia, he says we've got a lot of winter left.

KAYE: Oh no I hope he's wrong.

STEELE: You're right, right. Well they're seeing a lot of winter in Chicago and Cleveland. Although in Chicago, they are seeing some snow showers right now, 20 degrees. But you know, we haven't seen a lot of snow there at all this winter. So we're watching the snow here Cleveland, Cincinnati. And you know Lake Michigan the water temperature is 41 degrees.

So those cold Arctic air coming off this lake waters in line for this lake-effect snow. And you see it even it's going to make its way into Washington, D.C., by about 4:00 or 5:00 tonight. We could see maybe a half an inch to an inch by tomorrow.

Winter threat, here's where it is. The purple delineating where the winter weather advisories are. So on the whole, around Cincinnati, one to three. Here in the mountains of the Appalachians because the ore graphic lifting, the air kind of moves to the mountains. It's forced upward. And that's squeezing out any potential moisture.

So we're going to get it anyway three to five there. And again Washington could see a little bit. So it will be pretty this afternoon and certainly pretty on the ground if you're watching the game tomorrow.

Big picture here and there is where the snow is. But on the whole we're just pretty cold and pretty dry. But one thing I want to show you, the potential for some Boston snow tomorrow.

This is a computer model. This is tomorrow throughout this afternoon and into tomorrow. Here's what's going to happen. An area of low pressure may develop. This is just one model. This area of low pressure, if it gets closer to the coast, we could see some snow in Boston tomorrow night. And you can see this does bring some to the cape and islands. So we have to keep an eye on that and forecast weather for the game, it's looks beautiful. If you're out there tailgating or inside 6:30 tomorrow night out door temperature 60 degrees, indoors, of course at 70.

KAYE: Ok. Alexandra, thank you very much.

STEELE: Sure.

KAYE: Well, he wanted to be New York's mayor for life. A day after his death, we'll get a sneak peek at a fascinating upcoming film on the incredible life and contributions of Ed Koch from the film's director himself.

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ED KOCH, FORMER NEW YORK CITY MAYOR: New York, the people have given me so much. On my gravestone, I say I fiercely love the people of the city of New York.

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KAYE: And the people of New York fiercely loved him back. That was the city's three-term mayor, Ed Koch, speaking to CNN's Piers Morgan less than one month ago. Mr. Koch passed away yesterday in the city he so fiercely loved. He was 88.

Known as Mr. New York, larger than life Koch was credited with giving the Big Apple its mojo back. He won his first term as mayor in 1977. When he ran for re-election, he was so popular both parties nominated him. He won a third race with 78 percent of the vote. Koch once said he wanted to be mayor for life.

Now, in a touch of irony, his death coincided with the release of a new film about his life called "Koch". Watch this.

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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: He created a second life for himself. He's been a political force. He still enjoys the battle.

KOCH: People would say, oh, you must run again. You must run again. And I would say, no, people threw me out and now the people must be punished.

And people love that.

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KAYE: And joining me now to talk about the new documentary is the film's director, Neil Barsky.

Neil, good morning to you. So, tell us first why Koch, why did you want to make this film?

NEIL BARSKY, DIRECTOR, "KOCH": We started the film in 2010. I was a young reporter in my 20s when Ed Koch was mayor in the 1980s. And I always felt that was a critical part of New York history. I think the seeds of the New York's recovery really were planted under Koch, even though the 1980s New York was beset by plagues of AIDS and crack and homelessness and graffiti.

So, I thought showing the career of Ed Koch in 1980s, I could also tell the story of New York and New York's fall and rise, if you will, and hopefully understand how we got to be the city we are today.

KAYE: Yes. And you obviously spoke with him. You conducted interviews with him for this.

What were your impressions of him? I mean, anything surprise you about him?

BARSKY: Yes. What surprised me was when we shot the -- from 2010, to 2011, what surprised me was that there was so much richness to get on camera from contemporary Koch. As an 86-year-old, he had a very dynamic life. He led us into his home. He let us follow him around while he was politicking for candidates in the boroughs.

So, what we thought would start off as a historical film, also became much more personal -- personal about him, not me. So, there's sort of two stories now, the story of New York, but also, what was surprising is just how dynamic his life was as an octogenarian.

So we have sort of the story of Koch then and the story of Koch over the last several years.

KAYE: Yes. And as he said, he had this deep love, a fierce love as he called it of New York City, and arguably, brought it back from the brink of bankruptcy in the late '70s as you talk about.

But let's take a look at a clip of your film where he talks about that.

BARSKY: Sure.

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KOCH: I knew that the city was in dire peril when I ran. I also knew that of all those who were running or thinking of running, I knew more than they did.

How am I doing?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Not too well.

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KAYE: And things did truly change. I mean, I remember when he was mayor growing up there in that area. And things really changed after he left office.

BARSKY: Yes, you know, we have a sense looking back that history works out in some inevitable way. But it wasn't inevitable. A lot of cities, even Northeastern cities, stayed on their decline well past the 80s and 90s.

But New York did come back, and it came back not only because of Mayor Koch, but he certainly stabilized the finances, he injected the city with a new dose of morale. New York was really depressed in those days. It was the butt of Johnny Carson jokes and here was this larger than life guy who gave New Yorkers hope.

But at the same time, he did very substantive things. The city in the late '80s spent $5 billion rehabilitating its neighborhoods and its housing stocks. That was Koch. That's actually something he's less well known for. But that really laid the way for the complete rehabilitation of the city.

You don't see ruins in the South Bronx anymore. That didn't happen by itself.

KAYE: Right. Let's talk about his personal life. He was an open book about everything except his sexual orientation. He was never married. A lot of folks speculated about him.

Did he talk to you about that for the film?

BARSKY: Sure. You know, it's important part of his political biography, because ever since he was running for elective office, he's been hounded by stories that he was gay. In 1977, when he was returning against Mayor Cuomo, there were signs in the subway "Vote for Cuomo not the homo". And all through his life, he was asked about it.

And we have to realize, this man was born in 1924, in 1977, when he ran for your mayor, you could be gay or you could be mayor, but you really couldn't be both. And so, I think his unwillingness to say whether or not he was gay reflects a generational aspect of him.

And he's a stubborn guy so he stayed with it through the end. So we did discuss it. And I discussed it in the context of the AIDS crisis, because a lot of gay activists felt that because he might have been in the closet, he was less prone to want to identify with a gay issue like attacking the AIDS crisis.

I said, were you ever tempted to use your platform if you were gay really to change lives? And, you know, he's been pretty steadfast, it's none of your business. He throws a little epithet around usually when he's asked. You know, what's interesting to me is not whether he's gay or was gay or wasn't gay, what's interesting was that here was a guy surrounded by New Yorkers, surrounded by the public, surrounded by friends and family. But every night he went home alone.

KAYE: Neil Barsky, thank you so much.

Ed Koch's funeral will be held Monday at a synagogue on the Upper East Side.

NFL commissioner, Roger Goodell, says his league expects to begin testing for human growth hormone by next season. The NFL players association agreed to the testing as part of a new labor deal reached following a lockout two years ago. Goodell says HGH testing will help protect the integrity of the game and help make play safer.

At one point football was so violent, critics wanted to ban it. The President of the United States had to step in to help save it. Tom Foreman follows the American Journey of the country's most popular sport.

(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE) TOM FOREMAN, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): The numbers expected from the big game are staggering: 179 million fans will likely watch. Almost eight million will buy new TVs. And total consumer spending for wings, beer, pizza, and more will top $12 billion.

So how did we get there from here? This is believed to be the oldest film of a college football match, Princeton and Yale, 1903. At that time, versions of the game had already been played for 30 years, but football as we know it was just beginning its American journey.

MICHAEL ORIARD, FORMER NFL PLAYER: You know, we're talking about a period when the game was being played in college and maybe 2 percent of Americans were even going to college.

FOREMAN: Michael Oriard is a former NFL player turned author and college professor.

ORIARD: So why would they care about what the boys are doing with their spare time? Well, the popular press transformed the game into this popular spectacle.

FOREMAN: Through lurid, hyperventilating accounts, newspaper readers were drawn into a competitive world so violent that horrendous injuries and even fatalities were common. The game was so wild, many wanted it banned outright, prompting President Theodore Roosevelt, a fan, to plead with organizers to tone it down.

(on camera): He succeeded, and football has grown ever since, developing a professional league before World War I, and not terribly long after World War II, surging in popularity.

ORIARD: And what changed that in the 1950s was television. Television made it possible for football fans everywhere to follow professional football, and it also opened it up, then, a game for people who had no connection whatsoever with universities.

FOREMAN (voice-over): TV turned it into big league entertainment with slow-motion replays, cute cheerleaders and superstar athletes. Today, pro football has, by far, more fans than any other American sport, and each Super Bowl is a record breaker even before the kickoff.

Tom Foreman, CNN, looking for tickets in Washington.

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KAYE: Good luck with that, Tom.

On the eve of Super Bowl 45 CNN is live in New Orleans with our take on the biggest sporting event in the country. What it means to the city. How it became such a cultural phenomenon and much more. We welcome Richard Nichols as he hosts "KICKOFF IN NEW ORLEANS" a CNN Bleacher Report special this afternoon at 4:00 Eastern.

A five-year-old boy and his captor holed up underground in Alabama. What are negotiators possibly doing to end the stand-off and what are neighbors saying about a possible motive? (COMMERCIAL BREAK)

KAYE: Around the clock, negotiations are pressing forwards in Alabama between authorities and a man holed up in an underground bunker with a terrified five-year-old boy. The suspect, 65-year-old Jimmy Lee Dykes, pulled the boy after a school bus Tuesday after killing the bus driver and barricaded them both inside the bunker. Last night, CNN's Anderson Cooper got insight into how negotiators could be strategizing a peaceful end to the ordeal.

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BYRON SAGE, FORMER FBI HOSTAGE NEGOTIATOR: You wouldn't want to stress the fact that you're dealing, you know, when they introduce themselves, I'm sure they introduce themselves by name instead of by agency. If he asks, you don't lie to the individual because that could come back and just totally undercut your credibility.

But the fact of the matter is, I'm absolutely confident what they have done is they have identified a cadre of negotiators that have such a span of experience and possibly fellow vets, that can establish a rapport or have a level of understanding that they can start to build on.

This is now day four. I am quite certain that they have made significant inroads and trying to establish common areas that they can build upon. And at the same time, identify issues that are what we call hot button issues, such as encroachment on his property and other things that he's obviously quite sensitive to.

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KAYE: As far as a possible motive, we're hearing the suspect may have been angry with the bus driver for driving on his property. Authorities are expected to provide new details on the case at noon today.

New details today in the case of a lead Texas prosecutor who was gunned down in broad daylight Thursday morning, a friend of Prosecutor Mark Hassey tells CNN he feared for his life and carried a gun with him to work days before he was ambushed and shot multiple times walking from his car.

Hassey was killed in an employee parking lot a block from the Kaufman County Courthouse that's outside Dallas. Witnesses say one or two gunmen wearing mask and black clothing jumped in a getaway car. Authorities still have no leads.

I spoke to former prosecutor and CNN legal contributor Paul Callan about this case and I asked him if he's ever heard of a shooting like this one.

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PAUL CALLAN, CNN LEGAL CONTRIBUTOR: Well, I have to say it's very rare to see a prosecutor attacked or assassinated in connection with a case he's been prosecuting. There have been -- has been an uptick in recent years in attacks on prosecutors. Even given that uptick, it's still very, very rare.

Defendants are actually more likely to attack their own defense attorneys than prosecutors. They know that the heat's going to come down on them if they attack a prosecutor and they also know prosecutors are just doing their jobs.

But given that, with terrorism cases, with some organized crime cases, and this prosecutor, by the way, had been the chief of the organized crime unit in the Dallas District Attorney's Office before he took this job, he had some very -- he prosecuted some real bad guys.

Some meth dealers, some drug dealers, some drug cartel people, a lot of suspects here if this is an assassination case. But we simply don't have enough evidence at this point to know.

KAYE: Yes. And a friend of his spoke with our David Fitzpatrick and said that he had feared for his life before, Mark Hassey, the victim in this case. He used to go in and out I think three different doors at the courthouse, never using the same door on different days. So I mean, you were a prosecutor, does that surprise you?

CALLAN: Well, what surprises me is that he wasn't given extra security if that was the case. You know, I have to tell you, a lot of people would be surprised to know that even prosecutors who prosecute murder cases -- I prosecuted many, many murder cases, and I never had any security.

You know, the head D.A. might get security in a big city, but the guys who are trying the cases don't unless there's a specific threat. Now here, if this assistant D.A. was so worried about his safety that he's doing this going out separate doors, being secretive, and carrying a gun, I'm wondering why the office didn't know about it and why there wasn't extra security provided.

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KAYE: A $71,000 reward is offered for any information leading to a conviction in that case.

And a U.S. soldier tells a harrowing story of survival on the battlefield in Iraq. Problem is, it was all a lie. A big lie to win his way to "American Idol."

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KAYE: Welcome back. An "American Idol" contestant had the most perfect story to go with his singing voice, the story of bravery in war, survival, and a happy ending. It was almost too good to be true. That's probably because it was too good to be true. Martin Savidge has the details.

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MARTIN SAVIDGE, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): It was one of those made-for-TV moments that was guaranteed to melt your heart. The 26- year-old Matt Farmer taking a shot at fame on "American Idol" Wednesday night, holding his precious 3-year-old daughter and telling a story of valor from his military service in Iraq.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We were on a mission in Ramadi, Iraq, and came across an IED. The IED exploded. I just remember waking up in the hospital in Kuwait.

SAVIDGE: The only problem -- it was all a lie. Among the millions watching and listening was Farmer's former best friend, Nick Betts.

NICK BETTS, FORMER FARMER FRIEND: No, it is not true.

SAVIDGE: And how does he know?

BETTS: Because I was with him the entire time.

SAVIDGE: Betts said he deployed with Farmer to Iraq in 2006 and 2007. He said the "Idol" wannabe was never in an IED blast.

BETTS: There were numerous IEDs that tour. Thankfully nobody was killed by them. We did have a fellow soldier that was maimed, but Farmer was not. He was not involved in any of those.

SAVIDGE: Betts says farmer was flown out of Iraq for medical reasons, but he says it was due to Farmer getting drunk and mixing prescription drugs, not the enemy.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: My name's matt farmer --

SAVIDGE: "American Idol" wasn't the only time farmer lied. He told a huge church audience of a harrowing tale of survival in Afghanistan when he said the truck he was riding in ran over two land mines.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Everyone but myself was killed. I was the only one left alive.

SAVIDGE: According to Farmer's military buddies and his ex-wife, farmer was never in Afghanistan. Not long after his "Idol" moment, the Guardian of Valor web site dedicated to keeping military records honest lit up with outrage.

Said one post, "Sickening that this man is allowed to call himself a veteran. He's a disgrace to our true military heroes." Another simply said "SSOS -- sorry sack of (expletive)."

Later on that same site, Farmer posted his own statement admitting, quote, "It was all lies." He went on to say, "To everyone but more importantly the men I served with, I am deeply regretful and sorry." Betts was one of those men. He's not sure sorry cuts it.

BETTS: I feel like he took away from those who did sacrifice for this country. You know, we lost really good men that year. Some were maimed, some were killed and to claim that he was with them and involved in this tragedy is disgusting.

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SAVIDGE: I've been having an ongoing conversation via e-mail with Matt Farmer, trying to convince him to actually come on the air at CNN. He responded in this way saying, "At this time I'm not in the best of mental states to call and talk. A bit scattered to be honest, but would like to call and let people hear me set the record straight. As soon as I can get checked out and make sure I'm OK." So the good news we hope from that is that it appears he's seeking professional help. Martin Savidge, CNN, Atlanta.

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KAYE: It is February, heart month. This story really caught our eye. According to the "American Journal of Clinical Nutrition," vegetarians are about 1/3 less likely to die or even need treatment as a result of heart disease. Here's why -- heart disease is the number-one killer in the western world.

So this is why this is important -- 83 million Americans have some form of cardiovascular disease and risk factors for heart disease like obesity are at an all-time high. If that doesn't convince you, listen to this -- according to CDC, in 2010 the total cost of cardiovascular diseases in the U.S. were estimated to be $444 billion.

Fitness and nutrition expert Desiree Nathanson joins me now to talk about vegetables. We have a whole lot of vegetables here. I mean, I just could dive right into this table. This is me.

DESIREE NATHANSON, DIETETIC TECHNICIAN AND FITNESS EXPERT: I know.

KAYE: Let's talk about this meatless diet, right, because it could be hard for some Americans to swallow, right?

NATHANSON: Definitely.

KAYE: So -- there are some healthy vegetables that they can start with, maybe baby steps?

NATHANSON: Yes, absolutely.

KAYE: What do you recommend?

NATHANSON: These are all great choices here. I'm probably going to take them home with me actually. We have some corn, which tends to be a starchier vegetable. So you don't want to overload on that. Carrots are wonderful, asparagus, eggplants, broccoli, and of course, kale is the new and exciting super food.

KAYE: Yes, there's a lot of super foods out there.

NATHANSON: Yes.

KAYE: All right, well, let's go through some of them so we know why they are so good for us. Let's start with kale. Tell me why it's amazing for you and why shouldn't have too much of it. NATHANSON: Well, dark, leafy, green vegetables have tons of vitamins and minerals and antioxidants. With kale and spinach and other dark leafy green, they tend to have oxilates, which if eaten too much can cause kidney stones. So just because something is good for you, it doesn't mean you want to eat that entire bin right there.

KAYE: OK, good to know. Broccoli, I'm a big fan of broccoli -- not as a kid, though. This actually has protein, right?

NATHANSON: Yes, dark, leafy, green vegetables do have some protein. People think in order to get protein they have to sit down and eat a steak. But if you're getting two, three, four grams here and there, you'll end up with a nice amount at the end of the day.

KAYE: And asparagus, also a big fan of that. How nutritious is that?

NATHANSON: Asparagus is wonderful, again, lots of vitamins and minerals. Basically if you eat a rainbow of vegetables you've got your multivitamins.

KAYE: Diuretic, too, right?

NATHANSON: Yes, but so is water.

KAYE: That's true, but there's other good stuff in there.

NATHANSON: Yes, definitely.

KAYE: All right, so we came across this little rumor that's been floating out there. Can these vegetables actually help you burn fat? I mean, is that true?

NATHANSON: I am so glad you asked that, Randi, no. There is no fat- burning food and I like the state farm commercial on now saying, if it's on the internet it must be true. It is not.

KAYE: So then why does everybody say that? That this food can help you burn fat? Does it increase your metabolism in any way?

NATHANSON: No. The small amount that it can change or affect is so negligible it doesn't even count. But if you're eating a diet rich in vegetables, lean meats, whole grains --

KAYE: Fuller longer, right?

NATHANSON: Yes. You're eating more calories. This right has very few calories, but it's a lot of food.

KAYE: Right.

NATHANSON: So you're going to be eating more but less calories slimming down with a balanced diet.

KAYE: So that's why we think this is healthy --

NATHANSON: And a good fat burner -- ready for this -- exercise. KAYE: No!

NATHANSON: Yes.

KAYE: Come on. Couch versus exercise, I don't know. Thank you very much to Desiree Nathanson. You can check out more health and fitness tips on my blog. You can find that at cnn.com/randi.

A huge week on Wall Street, the Dow pushes past the 14,000 mark for the first time in more than five years. We'll tell you what that means.

But first, when traveling to other cities and countries, the best way to get a real taste of the place is through the local food. CNN I- Report has teamed up with "Travel & Leisure" magazine to create a global list of 100 places to eat like a local. Here's CNN's Ivan Watson in Istanbul with a sample.

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IVAN WATSON, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: I'm Ivan Watson on a beautiful winter's day in Istanbul. When I want to eat like a local, I come and talk to this guy over here. He's my friend Ansell Mullins. How you doing? He's the editor of a guide book on local restaurants and of a web site, istanbuleast.com. What do you have in mind today?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Well, it's the season to eat black sea anchovies, what do you say?

WATSON: It sounds good. Let's do it.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: All right.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Welcome.

WATSON: Thanks.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Thank you.

WATSON: We're eating anchovies. They're totally delicious, one of my favorite foods. I mean, the ingredients are so simple. This is olive oil, lemon.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: That's right. Turkey is blessed with great waters, really good fresh fish seasonally. In the hands of an usta, usta is a word for master, which is something like a Jedi knight in the kitchen. They're protectors of something serious and this is -- the back story of a place like this. It's the guy in the kitchen who keeps it all going.

WATSON: Here we go. What is this?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: This is a sole. These are local sole fillets, which have been wrapped, skewered, and grilled in the same way that it was --

WATSON: You don't object to lemon juice?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: No, no, never.

WATSON: Wow.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You saw the guy with the coffee from outside? Great. Again, specialization, you know, man who grills the fish doesn't make the coffee. Why should he?

WATSON: So if you want to eat like a local, eat seafood the way Turks have been eating for more than 80 years, come here at (inaudible).

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Hear, hear.

WATSON: Cheers. Yummy.

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KAYE: Yummy for sure. I-Reporters, here's your chance to help us create a food lover's map of the world. It's very easy, just go to ireport.com/100places. Send us a photo of your favorite restaurant, the dish, why you love it, why it's special.

The final list of 100 places to eat like a local will be revealed in March. Some I-Reporters will be on that list. So stay tuned to see if you are one of them.

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KAYE: Let's talk your money and a milestone for Wall Street. For the first time since 2007, the Dow Jones closed above 14,000. The stock market's rise has put it back in line with more prosperous times. CNN's Alison Kosik has more now.

ALISON KOSIK, CNN BUSINESS CORRESPONDENT: OK, Randy, party like it's 2007. On Friday, the Dow closed above 14,000. It's a milestone we haven't seen since 2007. But here at the NYSE, we hardly heard a peep from traders when it happened, no hooting and hollering like in years past, maybe it's the been there or done that attitude.

Still the Dow hit the mark thanks to some upbeat economic data. Wall Street saw the January jobs report as good enough even though investors really expected better. Also consumer confidence and manufacturing rose. That pushed stops over the edge.

But the momentum has been there for a while. The Dow has been powering higher ever since it hit rock bottom back in 2009. It fell as low as 6,500. So hitting 14,000 is a reminder of the comeback, but most analysts we talked to say it doesn't mean much. Instead they've got their eyes on the next big one.

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JEREMY SIEGEL, WHARTON SCHOOL OF BUSINESS: These are certainly nice round numbers. I mean, I personally think it will be more of an event once we break through that October 2007 all-time high. That is more of a milestone than just going through a thousand marker, which we, again, have done before.

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KOSIK: And if that all-time high of 14,164 that we're watching for now. Randi, back to you.

KOSIK: Alison, thank you very much.

"CNN NEWSROOM" starts at the top of the hour. Miguel Marquez is in today for Fredricka. All right, so you have a whole lot coming up I bet.

MIGUEL MARQUEZ, ANCHOR, CNN'S "NEWSROOM": We do indeed have a whole lot coming. The legal guys are here talking about a case in New York. A 7-year-old who was interrogated and held about six hours by the New York Police Department over a $5 bill. The legal guys will be here to talk about that.

And it was another strange week in the case of Jodi Arias out in Phoenix. She's accused of killing her boyfriend and her case has captivated the nation. We'll have the latest on that case.

And from tornados to frigid temperatures that was wacky weather across the entire country last week. We'll look at what's going on and why it's going on.

And of course, there is a news conference you've been talking about expected very soon, top of the hour in Alabama where a man is holed up in an underground bunker with a 5-year-old boy. We'll take you there live.

It's the party of the year, Super Bowl XLVII is just hours away. Football legend, Joe Theismann, will be with us live along with some other special guests all afternoon long. So it's a pretty packed program this afternoon.

KAYE: Yes, that can be a nice conversation with Joe.

MARQUEZ: Yes.

KAYE: I wonder who he's going to pick. Do you have a pick?

MARQUEZ: Looking forward to that. I love the Ravens, but I'm from California. So I love the 49ers. I love them both equally.

KAYE: All right, well, you know, got to pick one.

MARQUEZ: I was hoping for a tie.

KAYE: OK, I'm going with the Ravens. We'll see. All right, we'll check back with you in just a moment.

The funeral for a 15-year-old girl who performed at President Obama's inauguration will take place next weekend in Chicago. Hidea Pendleton was shot and killed at a Chicago park this week. Her story is now at the center of a passionate debate over gun control in America. Here's CNN's Ted Rowlands.

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TED ROWLANDS, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): She was one of those kids that always seemed to have a smile on her face, which you can see in this YouTube video. That's how friends are describing 15-year-old Hidea Pendleton, the latest innocent victim of gun violence in the city of Chicago.

Just days ago, a highlight of Hidea's short life -- she traveled to Washington, D.C., to perform with her high school majorette team at the inauguration. Jada Akins is the girl next to Hidea in this team photo.

JADA AKINS, FRIEND: It was a good trip. She was real happy on the trip. She was a nice person. She smiled all the time. She never frowned. She was never mad. She was never sad.

ROWLANDS: On Tuesday afternoon, Hidea had just finished a final exam. She and a group of friends ducked under this park shelter to avoid rain. Witnesses say a gunman came out from behind this fence and started shooting. Hidea was hit and killed just a mile away from President Obama's home in Chicago.

JAY CARNEY, WHITE HOUSE PRESS SECRETARY: The president and the first lady's thoughts and prayers are with the family of Hidea Pendleton. All of our thoughts and prayers are with her family.

As the president has said, we will never be able to eradicate every act of evil in this country, but if we can save even one child's life, we have an obligation to try when it comes to this scourge of gun violence.

ROWLANDS: Illinois Senator Dick Durbin also brought up Hidea's murder during a gun hearing on Capitol Hill, talking about her trip to Washington.

SENATOR DICK DURBIN (D), ILLINOIS: It was the highlight of her young 15-year-old life. Yesterday in a rainstorm after school she raced to a shelter, a gunman came in and shot her dead. Just a matter of days after the happiest day of her life she's gone.

ROWLANDS: It's been a deadly start to 2013 in Chicago. Hidea is the 42nd murder victim already this year, 506 people were killed here in 2012.

MAYOR RAHM EMANUEL (D), CHICAGO: She is what is best in our city, a child going to school who takes a final exam, who had just been to an inaugural. We have a responsibility to see a stop to this, and all of us are responsible.

ROWLANDS: It was a day of mourning at King College Prep High School where Hidea attended. Students spent the day with their parents and grief counselors trying to process her death and the toll gun violence is taking on their city. GAIL AKINS, JADA AKINS' MOTHER: It's too much. Every other day you're hearing shootings and killings, and now what's happening is more parents are burying their children and it needs to stop.

ROWLANDS: Ted Rowlands, CNN, Chicago.

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KAYE: A $40,000 reward is offered for information leading to an arrest in that case.