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Daylight Savings Time Costs Sleep And Money; Syrians Fleeing Bloodshed In Escalating Numbers; New York State Supreme Court Judge Rules Sugary Drink Ban Unlawful; "What Women Want" Panel

Aired March 11, 2013 - 15:30   ET

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BROOKE BALDWIN, CNN ANCHOR: Bottom of the hour. I'm Brooke Baldwin.

Technology, sports, business, health, science, and showbiz news, we're hitting it all for you in the power block, beginning with this.

Lacking the motivation to exercise? Yes, sometimes. Well, Google has a plan to change that. And it involves talking shoes. You heard me right. Talking shoes. A team at Google took a couple of pairs of Adidas sneakers, crammed them with a small computer and some sensors. The shoe then connects your Bluetooth earpiece to the shoe and just like a personal trainer, actually talks to you, tells you what you're doing right, tells you what you're doing wrong during your workout.

And when you have been sitting on the couch too long, it will even yell at you, get up.

Now this. It just keeps getting worse for Justin Bieber and the Beliebers. The pop singer is only just recovering from the run-in with the paparazzi in London. Remember this? And then there were the booing crowds, the mid-performance walk-off and the trip to the hospital. He was also spotted walking the streets of London with a gas mask on.

He's in Portugal today, hitting the stage in Lisbon tonight and was supposed to be performing there tomorrow night as well. But poor ticket sales have actually brought an abrupt end to the show, forcing Bieber to cancel it completely.

The sound of wedding bells could send you into debt. A new survey shows brides and grooms who got hitched last year spent more on their big day than those who braved a wedding at the beginning of the economic downturn in 2008.In fact, according to a survey on TheKnot.com, the average cost of a trip down the aisle, yikes, more than $28,000 to say I do.

Changing our clocks forward, an hour for daylight's saving doesn't just cost us that hour of crucial sleep. It may cost us money, as well, and you may never guess exactly how much.

Watch this. One study says the toll on the American economy could be as much as $434 million.

Alison Kosik, how do they get this number?

ALISON KOSIK, CNN BUSINESS CORRESPONDENT: OK, so, if you crunch that number, by the way, that $434 million, you divvy it up, it actually only amounts to $1.65 a person across the country.

But here's where that money comes out of. There's this study compiled by this group called Sleep Better, and what it did was it took into account all these things that happened when we lose an hour of sleep.

Forget about the fact that we feel exhausted today, but there is an increased risk that you'll get hurt in the workplace, an increased risk that you're going to have a heart attack, and what they call "cyber-loafing," which basically means you're less productive, less alert at work, you're going to spend more time online playing "Words With Friends," doing some online shopping.

And we saw certain parts of the country that were more impacted by this more than others. West Virginia was one of the hot spots that lost a lot of money, $3.38 a person. The next three on the list, most of West Virginia, as well, plus parts of Ohio and Kentucky.

Those places, why there? That's coal country. You don't want coal miners losing sleep because they've apparently had the most workplace injuries because of the time change.

Brooke?

BALDWIN: Our news anchors, news anchors, as well, we need our sleep.

Alison Kosik, thank you so much. Just kidding.

Every so often, a slam dunk comes along, it is just so good it even impresses those who do not worship basketball.

Take a look. We're going to show you this in slo-mo. You have DeAndre Jordan stunning his Clippers teammates with this move. This is a one-handed dunk off an alley-oop pass from Chris Paul.

That move, the icing on the cake for the Clippers who ran away with the win, 129 points to the Detroit Pistons' score of 97.

Aspirin usage may be lowering the risk of developing deadly skin cancer in women. Researchers found those who use aspirin actually had a 21 percent lower risk of developing melanoma, and according to this study, the longer they took it, the lower their risk.

In the middle of the night, they flee, some bleeding, all of them crippled with exhaustion. I'm talking about Syrian refugees, fleeing the bloodshed in droves.

Now, a dire warning ...

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ANTONIO GUTERRES, U.N. HIGH COMMISSIONER FOR REFUGEES: In December, we have 3,000 refugees as an average per day. In January, we had 5,000. In February, we had 8,000.

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BALDWIN: Staggering escalation here, and it gets worse. The number could double if not triple by the end of the year if the civil war wages on.

CNN's Nick Paton Walsh is live in Beirut. And, Nick, you have been meeting with these refugees inside some of these camps. What do they tell you? What is life like for them?

NICK PATON WALSH, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Incredibly hard. One camp we went to, Zaatari, in Jordan, that has doubled in size in just the last two months.

We talked to aid workers who said they were given a plot of land to prepare with tents and, before they even had a chance to finish that work, people were being given to them to live in that area.

Children living in plastic tents that are windswept, often small fires causing burns, children rushed to the hospitals there, really struggling to keep pace with a population really rocketing out of control and, of course, sometimes the Jordanian air force patrolling the border nearby swoop low over the tent camps, terrifying children who can still remember those jets, the sound of those jets brought to them inside Syria, bombing by the regime, Brooke.

BALDWIN: But then, if you -- you know, if these U.N. predictions are accurate about the possible tripling of refugee numbers, Nick, how much worse could it get for these people in these camps?

WALSH: Not just the camps, the countries trying to receive these people as a whole are going to really struggle.

They're already having a difficult time, almost at breaking point. Jordan, you can feel the animosity grow.

Here where I'm standing inside Lebanon, already one-in-10 people living here is a Syrian refugee. You can imagine what troubling those proportions would do to a country of 4 million.

But Jordan already hit, experiencing the worst of this, 5,000 crossing that border every night. It's closest to Daraa and the capital, Damascus, where much of the fighting is going to intensify in the summer ahead.

That one camp, Zaatari, really struggling to hold what it's already got and the economy there really reeling from the impact of so, so many people flooding in, Brooke.

BALDWIN: Nick Paton Walsh in Beirut, Lebanon. Nick, thank you. A test rocket, now, called the Grasshopper made by the company SpaceX is unlike any other rocket you have seen. Check it out. The rocket launches and then hovers, mid-air. This leap made it about 260 feet and hovered for some 34 seconds.

The ultimate goal of the Grasshopper, to make rockets that are re-useable, instead of having to burn them up when they enter and re- enter, I should say, the earth's atmosphere.

Back after this.

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BALDWIN: Breaking news here. If you live in New York City and you like your sugary drinks, you are in luck, at least for now.

We've been reporting on this sugar drink ban that was supposed to go into effect tomorrow. This is per, of course, the mayor of New York city, Michael Bloomberg.

Well, we have just learned here, according to this New York state supreme court judge who just ruled, the city's proposed limit on sugar beverages is not legal and I'm quoting, "is arbitrary and capricious."

We're working on getting reporters up on this as I know we have lots of questions here. There have been questions of overreach on behalf of the mayor's office.

But, at the same time, he's saying, hey, this is great because it will help fight obesity, which clearly is a problem.

More on this, breaking news out of New York next.

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BALDWIN: Want to get you back to the breaking news here out of New York as we have now learned that this New York state Supreme Court judge has ruled that this proposal to ban sugary drinks in New York City starting tomorrow is not legal.

Mary Snow has been on the story. She's been looking at this brief that is attached -- the reasoning as far as why.

Mary Snow, what are you learning?

MARY SNOW, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Well, Brooke, the bottom line, this is a big defeat for Mayor Michael Bloomberg.

And, basically, what this lawsuit was all about, beverage companies, restaurant association and others went to court to try and block this new rule from going into effect. It was supposed to go into effect tomorrow.

And their argument was that the city did not have the authority to do this, that this was a decision by the board of health and that the mayor appoints members to the board of health, so therefore, they said, this was not something that went through the legislature, and that this shouldn't go through. And a judge today, as you just said, has said that this rule would be invalid.

And this was something that -- you know, I just was at a business earlier today, an independent movie theater, this had a lot of business people very worried about how this new rule would impact their business, so they are clearly seeing this as a victory.

And, of course, those rules were that restaurants, movie theaters, couldn't sell large sugary drinks in cups over 16 ounces.

And the mayor today, and also yesterday, had been pushing forward with this, thinking this was a good idea.

This was a mayor imposed a ban on smoking in restaurants and public places. He has cut down on trans-fats. He has had imposed calorie counters at restaurants.

So, he's made a lot of initiatives in New York City. This is something he thought would lead the way in terms of these new kind of rules. This was all about a fight against obesity.

BALDWIN: All about obesity. At the same time, some are saying, hang on. This is the government overreaching, and now we have this ruling from the judge saying this is not legal.

Mary Snow, thank you.

Mary brought up businesses here. I want to go to Alison Kosik who's at the New York Stock Exchange.

Who specifically has been against this ban all along, and does this affect, you know, stock prices today?

KOSIK: Well, the restaurant association, the American Beverage Association, they all challenged this rule saying it would be too big of a burden to really follow because it restricts how much product that they can sell.

You know, talking about stock prices, you know, you think about Coca-Cola and Starbucks, no effect there. The reality is this was too localized to affect stocks in that way.

But it's interesting with Starbucks, actually before this ruling came out from the court today, Starbucks came out earlier today saying, look, we're not concerned about this. We're not going to abide by this, especially since most of their drinks are made of milk, and it's up to the consumer really to add that sugar.

But this sort of discussion about, you know, banning the 16 ounce drinks of sugary drinks here in New York City, Brooke, you know, it's really kind of become a joke, you know, when you just talk to the average person on the street about it.

I mean, many people would say, OK, you're banning me from having that 16 ounce soda, well, guess what. I'm going to buy two eight ounce and there you go, I've got myself a 16 ounce drink, so it's kind of been laughed at.

BALDWIN: So, Manhattanites joking about it. This is not a laughing matter when you hear sort of what the mayor and the mayor's office has been saying.

And I'm sure Mary Snow will be looking out for some kind of response here to this judge saying this is not legal, so look for Mary on "The Situation Room."

Alison Kosik, thank you very much.

And, now, let's talk about something a lot of people have been marinating on over the last, you know, 24, 48 hours here, CNN taking a good hard look at "What Women Want," the name of our special series focusing on women, and work, life, balance -- is that an oxymoron?

We're going to talk about that today. A new book hits the shelves, aiming to get women help, get them what they want. It's called "Lean In -- Women, Work and the Will to Lead," and just as important as what it says, it's also who's saying it.

You see her face there on the cover of the book. She is Facebook chief operating officer Sheryl Sandberg.

She makes $30 million a year, she is considered one of the most powerful women in the country, and her advice to women is this -- lean in, take the initiative, seek out opportunity as opposed to leaning back and limiting options because of the family.

She hits many sides of women in the workplace, including how women aren't aggressive enough, and when they are, they get negative feedback, unlike men.

Listen to what she said on "60 Minutes" just last night.

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SHERYL SANDBERG, CHIEF OPERATING OFFICER, FACEBOOK: This is deeply personal for me. I want every little girl who someone says they're bossy, to be told instead, you have leadership skills.

NORAH O'DONNELL, "60 MINUTES": Because you were told you were bossy.

SANDBERG: Because I was told that, and because every woman I know who is in a leadership position was told that.

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BALDWIN: Joining me now, some distinct voices on talking about what women want.

Three ladies, we have Belinda Luscombe, editor-at-large for "Time Magazine" who has interviewed Sheryl Sandberg. Also with us, Jessica Herrin, CEO and founder of Stella & Dot, a company that helps to pioneer social selling and specializes in creating flexible business opportunities for women. And we have Heather Armstrong. She is founder of Dooce.com, one of the first mommy blogs which reportedly has 100,000 readers a day. My goodness.

Heather actually shared intimate details from her single days to post-partum depression to the recent breakup of her marriage, so we'll delve into part of that here as shaping this whole story.

Welcome to all of you, ladies. And, Jessica, let me begin with you, just sort of going off what we heard Sheryl say to Norah O'Donnell on CBS, were you ever told you were bossy?

JESSICA HERRIN, CEO AND FOUNDER, STELLA & DOT: Yes and that's because I am. I have strong opinions and I share them, so, yes, of course I was, yes.

BALDWIN: And when you were told you were bossy, did you take that, did you internalize it, did you think it was a bad thing?

HERRIN: You know, I think that Sheryl makes a very valid point, is that that's generally not thought of as a great characteristic in women.

And I fundamentally recognized when I was told I was bossy that eventually, in order to become successful, I had to stop caring if other people thought I was failing, including in having the ultimate personality, which meant not being bossy.

BALDWIN: Belinda, you've talked to Sheryl. Help us understand her overarching message when she talks about leadership and raising your hand and, you know, appreciating your core qualities when you're moving up on the ladder, so to speak, and not just saying, you know, hey, it was the right timing or I had really great people to work with.

What is the crux of her message?

BELINDA LUSCOMBE, EDITOR-AT-LARGE, "TIME MAGAZINE": I think one of the things she talked about that's very interesting is the syndrome called "impostor syndrome" where women who had had business success somehow think it was a fluke and somehow like to say, oh, it wasn't really me, it was somebody else, as you said, or I got lucky.

And those things have been said about Sheryl. A lot of people are saying, she's only successful because she worked for Google and Facebook and because she was mentored and sponsored by great men, which is true, by the way, of every great guy. We just don't -- successful guy, we just don't point it out the whole time.

So, yes, I think what she's looking for is the barriers within women themselves where they don't put their hand up, where they say, when someone comes to them and says, would you like to run the office, they say, look, I don't know if I'm right for that, or can I think about it, where guys are more likely to say, can I run that office, can I run this project, are more likely to put themselves forward.

And partly that's because, as women, we are sort of socialized to think we need to step back, we need to be nurturing and caring, not aggressive.

And partly, I think it's -- you know, it may be a biological thing where people are worried, women, particularly who have children, are worried, how do I do that and be a good mother and be a good wife? How does it affect the people around me?

So, it's a very complicated issue, and as you see from the kind of hostility that she has faced, it's also a very personal and passionate issue for a lot of women.

BALDWIN: Yeah, I know some leaders are saying, hey, granted, she went to public school in Miami, she went to Harvard, she worked at Google, she's on private jets, she's at Facebook.

You know, who is this woman? Heather, do you see that at all? Who is this woman to give me advice whether you are a young working woman, you're a mom, balance? Who is she to give me advice?

Heather?

HEATHER ARMSTRONG, FOUNDER, DOOCE.COM: She was Harvard-educated and she has worked for Google and has been an executive -- has executive experience.

And, yet, she went on to admit that, when Facebook made her the offer, she didn't even think to make a counteroffer, that it was her husband who said to her, wait a minute, don't take the first offer.

So, if she is having that much confusion, think about -- it speaks to a wider problem that women aren't -- women don't have not necessarily the courage. It's an engrained societal sort of personality trait that we sort of develop that being bossy and being forward and ambitious is sometimes seen as nasty in women.

BALDWIN: But why? I mean, Heather, when you hear Jessica talking about being told that she was bossy, she embraced it. I mean, look at her now.

I mean, what is it? Is it taught to us at young girls to ...

ARMSTRONG: It is taught to us.

BALDWIN: It is?

HERRIN: Yes. It is. I grew up in a ...

BALDWIN: Go ahead, Jessica.

HERRIN: I grew up in a very -- go ahead.

HERRIN: Well, I think that to be successful, you know, the thing, the Catch-22 for women is that for you to succeed in life, right, which is how we really want to define success as just happiness, is that it is not enough to just be successful professionally. All right, you also want to aspire to be the standard that was set for you by your mother, your grandmother. Be a great homemaker. Be a great wife. Be a great friend.

And the thing is, to pursue one, you don't want to sacrifice the other. And you might get judged all around you, right, so that if you are succeeding at work, you might feel like you're failing at home.

If you're succeeding as a stay-at-home mom, you might have working mom judging you and vice versa.

So I think that is something that we're nurturers, which is good news for society. We take care of everybody else, but we also have to take care of ourselves in the sense that we have to judge ourselves last and judge others last.

BALDWIN: But what do we do about the judgy-judgy nature of everyone?

Heather, you brought up an interesting point in your talking to one of our producers, you point out social media. You know, everybody sort of puts forth, right, their best self.

And sometimes it's -- the case is, my kid is the smartest, or look how great my husband is, and that's women doing this to other women.

ARMSTRONG: Yes, it is. Well, it's women doing it to other women. It's society doing it to all of us.

I mean, we are bombarded by these messages, Pinterest and Facebook and blogs of these DIY projects going on with the stay-at- home mom with the child, and they don't show the mess behind them.

And I think the big problem here is that I think a lot of women and myself included -- I used to think having a successful career and the family were mutually exclusive.

And that concept, even in 2013, that you can have a career and family, I mean, no one has it all, period.

But to have ...

BALDWIN: Thank you for saying that.

ARMSTRONG: ... a very fulfilling career and a very fulfilling family life, having both, they're not mutually exclusive, and that's something women need to embrace.

BALDWIN: We can't all be Superwoman. I tell you what. I have a tough enough time walking my pug three or four times a day. I bow to all of the mothers, the stay-at-home moms, which my mom was, and the moms who are also balancing the work life.

Jessica, just finally what is your takeaway because I know your atmosphere with work at Stella & Dot, it's the kind of thing where working moms can work, yet you've made it sort of accessible for all of them.

What's your final message to any woman watching?

HERRIN: The goal is not to try to have it all. It's to try to have what matters to you the most and what you're willing to consistently work for, and that you shouldn't pursue easy and the idea of balance, meaning that it exists without struggle or effort, and that the path to your best life is with really going for the things that you want and believing in yourself.

And to me, that's Sheryl's message and it is universally appealing and applicable to all women. It's just believe in yourself. Don't judge yourself so much and don't judge others.

BALDWIN: And help other women. I always try ...

HERRIN: And help other women. Lift each other up.

BALDWIN: Yes. Jessica Herrin, Heather Armstrong and Belinda Luscombe, thank you all, ladies, very much.

Coming up next, another leading lady here, Barbara Walters, she's revealing whether Elisabeth Hasselbeck will be back on "The View" or not after this break.

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BARBARA WALTERS, HOST, "THE VIEW": We value and appreciate her point of view. It is important to us because Elisabeth gives the show perspective and balance. We have no plans for her to leave the show.

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BALDWIN: There you have it, Barbara Walters putting the rumors to rest, Elizabeth Hasselbeck not leaving "The View."

Back after this.

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BALDWIN: And as always, if you miss an interview on the show, go to The Brooke Blog, cnn.com/Brooke.

And that does it for me here on this Monday. Thanks so much for being with me.

We're going to send you to Washington. THE SITUATION ROOM with Wolf Blitzer begins right now.

Hey, Wolf.