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Foreign Service Officer Killed; Inside a Taliban Training Camp; North Korea may Test Missile this Week; And Then There Were Two; Missing and Black; Fighting to Get a Boxing Legend Pardoned

Aired April 7, 2013 - 19:00   ET

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DON LEMON, CNN ANCHOR: Welcome to the NEWSROOM. I'm Don Lemon.

Top of the hour: after weeks of threats there's speculation North Korea may test fire a missile this Wednesday. This warning from South Korea comes as China's patience with North Korea appears to be wearing thin. President Xi Jinping saying, "No country should be allowed to throw a region into chaos for selfish gains."

A former U.S. ambassador to China says the comments suggest North Korea's closest ally is getting fed up with the situation.

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JON HUNTSMAN (R), FORMER UTAH GOVERNOR: This is rather unprecedented for the head of the party, the head of the military and the President, all one person, Xi Jinping to be saying these words. And it suggest to me as I've watched the ratcheting up of frustration among Chinese leaders over the last many years that they probably have hit the 212 degree boiling point as it relates to North Korea.

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LEMON: CNN's Kyung Lah is in Seoul, South Korea. Kyung first, what more can you tell us about the speculation that Korea may launch a missile this week? (AUDIO GAP)

We're having a little bit of trouble hearing Kyung. Kyung we'll get back to you in just a minute here on CNN. So please stand by. We'll get that fixed.

I'm about to show you something that's very graphic. Some graphic images and these are some children killed in Afghanistan reportedly in a NATO air strike. Local sources in a province on the Pakistan border say 11 children died in the air strike and that several adults were killed as well. A NATO military spokesman says they're aware of the reports and they are looking at it. They're investigating.

Also killed in Afghanistan this weekend, six Americans in two separate incidents and one of them was a suicide bombing that killed three U.S. service members and two government civilians. 25-year-old Anne Smedinghoff was among those killed. She was a State Department staffer at the American Embassy in Kabul and loved what her family described as work that made a difference in the Afghan people's lives. Just a few minutes ago I talked with Anne's father.

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TOM SMEDINGHOFF, ANNE SMEDINGHOFF'S FATHER: We are -- we are doing ok. I think we are -- we are consoled by the fact that, you know, our daughter was really doing what she loved and making an important contribution, a positive contribution in the process. And we have been so gratified by all of the outpourings of support and condolences from so many people that she -- that she knew from so many lives that she touched. It really has been just a wonderful thing.

LEMON: What does she love about her job? Apparently in order to do this work, you have to love it.

SMEDINGHOFF: She -- I think she really enjoyed the challenge. She really enjoyed the opportunity to work with the local people in the community. She did a lot of public outreach. She helped with a lot of the educational efforts in the schools in Afghanistan. She did a great deal of work with many of the women's groups that were working for equality for women in Afghanistan. She did -- she helped organize a group, a musical group to come to the United States.

She was helpful in organizing their soccer team, the women's soccer team -- just all kinds of different things, working with the local community to try to really improve things.

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LEMON: Her father, Tom Smedinghoff. And Anne's family traveling now to Dover Air Force Base where the remains of those Americans killed this weekend will soon arrive back here in the United States.

The insurgency is gaining steam with the impending withdrawal by the U.S. and NATO. And our senior international correspondent is Nic Robertson of course and he gets an exclusive look inside a Taliban training camp where raw recruits are being taught to fight and kill.

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NIC ROBERTSON, CNN SENIOR INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT (voice over): This is not your normal Taliban video. More misses than hits -- troops struggling to muster their weapons.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I captured everything in these videos -- their condition of homes, kitchens, sleeping.

ROBERTSON: He is a Pakistani journalist. Out of concern for his safety, wants his identity kept secret. He tells me the Pakistani Taliban gave him rare access to one of their remote training camps close to Afghanistan where he saw them preparing for the NATO pull out over the border. A battle he says Taliban think they've won.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: They said, "We have inflicted damages on them. That's why they are withdrawing from the -- withdrawing from the region." They said that that is our success that they are going with failure from the region.

ROBERTSON: He says he shot this video a year ago and for the week he was there, he followed four young Pakistani suicide attack recruits. The training is detailed as it was long and relentless -- everything from gun cleaning to rehearsing murder while driving in a car. All of it he says apparently under American drone surveillance.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Drone were hovering the air. Drones were good height. There was fear of drone military operation -- Everything.

ROBERTSON: Later, after he left, he says this building was hit in a drone strike. Nine Taliban killed. It's why only a handful trained together and why the camps are kept Spartan. But he says it doesn't stop the recruits coming.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: They say that if the U.S. stay here, we are happy because we want to fight with them face to face.

ROBERTSON: U.S. troops draw down in Afghanistan. The Pakistani Taliban are increasingly upping their fight across the border. This is one of their recent propaganda videos shot in Afghanistan. In a barbaric act, they murder a man they claim is an Afghan spy working for NATO. CNN cannot confirm its authenticity.

It is a chilling reminder of how war recruits hone their skills and how Pakistan's Taliban emboldened by the NATO drawdown are flooding more fighters across the border.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: They have meager resources. Very meager resources, but their determination, when I saw their determination, their determination was very high.

ROBERTSON: These war recruits just a handful in a gathering storm ready to take advantage in a battle they think they've won.

Nic Robertson, CNN, Islamabad, Pakistan.

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LEMON: Back to our top story now where the speculation that North Korea may fire test missiles this coming Wednesday. This warning from South Korea comes as China's patience with North Korea appears to be wearing thin.

I want to go now to CNN's Kyung Lah; she is following the story for us. Kyung what more can you tell us about the speculation that Korea may launch a missile this week?

KYUNG LAH, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Well, according to the Presidential office here in South Korea, it's a very strong suspicion. They are targeting in on that date, Wednesday April 10th. They do believe that that is the highest possibility of a potential missile test launch from North Korea and it does appear, Don that this entire region is in full preparation mode. Take a look at this video. This is video that we captured at the U.S.-Osan Air Base. What you are looking at are U.S. Patriot missile batteries. You can see that they are pointed up at the sky. These are land-to-air interceptor missiles and these -- these patriot missile batteries, they usually are down on the ground, but they are up in plain, full view; and this according to the locals in that area, they tell us that these are only elevated in times of extremely high tension just like now.

Now, the locals do tell us that they do feel a little more reassured seeing these missile batteries up. They are defensive. They say that this really shows them that because U.S. bases have been targeted by North Korea, verbally, that this is at least some measure of protection.

We are also seeing increased activity in the border towns of South Korea. We're getting numerous reports that locals are being given fliers, preparation this week of what to do in case there is some sort of North Korea provocation.

And Don, one other thing I would like to mention, the U.S. commander in this region was scheduled to go to Washington this week. He has now canceled that trip to stay in the region.

LEMON: Kyung, talk to me a little bit more about that -- about the significance of China's thinly-veiled warning to North Korea today. How important is China in this equation?

LAH: It's very -- you know, when you jump in on this and you hear something that doesn't seem particularly direct or strong from China, but if you cover all of this and you see these incremental verbal changes from China, what we heard today is very, very significant.

China is the key to all of this. China is the North's closest ally and that China is expressing in public at an economic forum a thinly veiled criticism of North Korea. It is a direct message to Pyongyang to dial it down. The question, though, Don, is whether or not Pyongyang is actually listening.

LEMON: Kyung Lah, thank you very much.

Straight ahead here on CNN, boxing legend Mike Tyson who has had legal troubles of his own is asking the President to overturn the conviction of another fighter. That's ahead.

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LEMON: I love that music. So the final four now down to two. But there can only be one winner. Louisville and Michigan, will square off tomorrow night for the NCAA men's basketball championship.

Louisville's Kevin Ware with a broken leg will be cheering from the side lines like he did last night. Ware couldn't even watch the final seconds of Louisville's victory. Not many people (inaudible) because he had his head buried in his jersey. As he played and some of the players were on the court like they couldn't even watch it. It was a great game.

CNN Sports Rachel Nichols joins us live here in Atlanta. It's so great to meet you.

RACHEL NICHOLS, CNN SPORTS CORRESPONDENT: Thank you.

LEMON: You're pulling like double, triple duty and doing a great job. I enjoyed the interview.

NICHOLS: Well thank you very much.

LEMON: You were watching, you were there yesterday.

NICHOLS: Yes.

LEMON: Yes and you saw him with his face buried.

NICHOLS: I did. Before he did that, he -- who his leg has got three rods in it I think and are so taped up and all of that -- he actually during a time-out when Michigan was down by double digits jumped up on to the court to participate in a time-out and sort of spur his team on and yell at them and tell them they had to play better defense and everything else.

LEMON: Right.

NICHOLS: And that's the kind of energy and push that he is giving these players. It is so great to see him still get a chance to participate. And also help them win --

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LEMON: Yes.

NICHOLS: -- because for a while it looked like they might not win that game.

LEMON: I was telling, he got more air time than the teams. Give us -- ok. We'll talk about an update on his condition. But look at this thing that he has here.

NICHOLS: I just want to bring this into our little couch area here. If we, like, over the news when you're doing the news later and it was like boom, boom, boom, it we we're like -- like that and it was just over you, over your head, that's Kevin Ware's face, by the way, for people who don't know. It's on a popsicle stick.

Amare Stoudemire from the New York Knicks acting -- come on oh see now he wants to steal how Kevin Ware head. But look, I have a demonstration and I'm like Dana White.

LEMON: Yes ok.

NICHOLS: Amare Stoudemire he says win for Ware on the back.

LEMON: Yes right. NICHOLS: It's good and that actually is a campaign and Amare Stoudemire from the New York Knicks donated the money for this. So this was just another piece of evidence of all of the support that Kevin Ware and Louisville has gotten from around the country. This is a team that's the number one overall seed.

LEMON: No, no, I'm going to give it back.

NICHOLS: They're supposed to be --

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LEMON: I just want to say of thing that that it's like a not in my house, it's like oh get well Ware.

NICHOLS: Yes well right.

LEMON: Amare Stoudemire foundation.

NICHOLS: If I have to fight you for that later I know some friends I'm just saying.

LEMON: Ok.

NICHOLS: Yes but I will say that it's an evidence of all of around the country, there are people who are rooting for this team that honestly should be the big bad goliath that we should all be rooting --

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LEMON: Right.

NICHOLS: -- for the dirty underdogs and instead they've become America's sweethearts. So of course the question is, where does that leave Michigan?

LEMON: Tell us about the preparation.

NICHOLS: Well, for Michigan it's interesting. You know, it's such a quick turnaround for both of these teams.

LEMON: Right.

NICHOLS: Because they play Saturday night, don't know who they're going to play next. 48 hours later they're playing the most important game of the tournament. So Michigan coach John Beilein said that despite the fact that he was up until 2:00, 3:00 in the morning last night, by 5:45 a.m., he was watching tape of his new opponent, of Louisville. And, you know, they had to go through and have a practice today. But that's it. They had one practice today and then they go on and they play the game tomorrow.

LEMON: It's going to be a really mighty match. I mean yesterday both teams were really good. And it came down to the wire. This is the kind of basketball that you want to see. It gives you a bit of angina, like oh my gosh.

What are you hoping to see in tomorrow night's game?

NICHOLS: Well, you've got Louisville's press although they do, by the way, play offense. Everyone talks about the Louisville defense.

LEMON: Right.

NICHOLS: But they do have some nice offense going on and they seem to have guys who can shoot. And then Michigan, it shoots lights out if they're playing on all cylinders. So I think it's going to be interesting to see that matchup and al so see two coaches who have different philosophies, different styles.

Rick Pitino is one of these deans of college basketball, he's been such a presence. And then you've got John Beilein who's a lot more of a journeyman. He's coached in more than half a dozen different Division 1 schools, first time in the final four, much less the championship game.

LEMON: Is this one of the most exciting ones you've seen recently? It appears to me that it is. Maybe it's just because it's here in Atlanta.

NICHOLS: I was going to say it's outside your door. You're showing -- can we show what's going on outside of here? There are thousands of people.

LEMON: Thousands of people, Rachel.

NICHOLS: I don't think they're here for Sting. I think they're here for you.

LEMON: They are. They're here for us.

NICHOLS: They know you're right across -- you can't see it in that shot, but the studio is right here. And I think that they're here. They're just going to turn all around from having watched Sting and now they're going to all make a 180-degree turn and look and just say, "Don Lemon, we want Don Lemon".

LEMON: You're exactly right about that.

You know what's funny, though, is when we walked down -- you walk down in the atrium?

NICHOLS: Yes.

LEMON: So people will be watching. There are these big monitors in the atrium here at CNN so they'll be watching. And then I'll go downstairs for dinner and they'll go --

NICHOLS: See all those people --

LEMON: Aren't you supposed to be up on that box over there? NICHOLS: -- on the grounds over there.

LEMON: It's a pleasure meeting you. You can leave that Kevin Ware.

NICHOLS: Kevin Ware is coming with me to the stadium. But you'll see these on TV tomorrow, you'll see a bunch of people in the arena holding them. And then I will say that you will see a lot of people supporting Michigan because let's not kid ourselves. Michigan, big school, a lot of graduates, lots of support for them too.

LEMON: She's not mean but she's not leaving me with that --

NICHOLS: No.

LEMON: Thank you Rachel. It's great to meet you.

NICHOLS: Thank you.

LEMON: Welcome.

NICHOLS: Thank you.

LEMON: Welcome to CNN.

Coming up after this quick break, it is a topic I've covered many times before -- missing people of color. It's a topic that often gets overlooked by the national media. "Jet Magazine" did an exhaustive investigation. The magazine cover says it all -- "Missing & black: where's the outrage?" I'm going to talk with the magazine's editor- in-chief.

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LEMON: Searchers scouring the Gulf of Mexico for two boys believe kidnapped by their parents. Joshua Hakken and his wife, Sharon, are accused of taking the boys ages 2 and 4 from their grandparents' house in Tampa, Florida. The grandparents have custody of the boys. Hakken and his wife have been described by authorities as anti-government. Police say they may all be on a sailboat.

It's been five weeks and still no sign of the New Orleans area teacher; a prayer vigil was held Friday at police headquarters for Terrilyn Monette. She was last seen in the early hours of March 2nd after leaving a local lounge. Police have no leads. Monette's family hopes that keeping the case in the public eye will help lead to some answers.

Unfortunately, though, this story is all too familiar when it comes to missing African-Americans. We talked about the issue just a couple weeks ago and now it is a focus of a special report by "Jet Magazine" -- "Missing and Black: Where is the outrage?"

There's Mitzi Miller right there. She is the editor-in-chief of "Jet" and we're so glad you joined us. She joins us from New York. Let's talk about the -- we'll talk about the article. And you know, last time I had Black & Missing on from TV One, I asked her, it was the last question, it should have been the first question. Do you think that the media doesn't pay as much attention to people of color who are missing? Is it racism?

MITZI MILLER, EDITOR-IN-CHIEF, "JET MAGAZINE": I don't like to say that it's racism. I think this is just -- that's just America. You know, the people in control focus on what matters to them. And unfortunately, the majority of the people in control are not minorities or African-Americans.

LEMON: And that's it?

MILLER: It's that simple. You've, I mean, in a crisis, everyone will run to their corners and focus on what their own personal agenda is. That's why "Jet Magazine", we had to make this our focus. Our agenda is to make sure that we represent the authentic voice for the African-American community. That's why we're talking about that.

LEMON: Let's talk about the article. It called "Fade to Black". It shows 16 faces of missing African-American kids and youth. And it really puts it into perspective, doesn't it?

MILLER: I mean that was the purpose. This is -- this is an epidemic. And it's not that I don't believe that our community knows that it's happening. I just think that the majority of our community feel like it's an isolated event and that it happens, oh, this happens to wealthy people, this happens to people far away.

No, this is happening in every demographic. This is happening all across our community. 800,000 children under 18 go missing every year. Of that amount 150,000 are African-American.

LEMON: Right.

MILLER: That is according to the FBI, because we spoke to the FBI, we went to the authorities. That's 33.8 percent.

LEMON: Yes.

MILLER: That's almost double the amount of African-Americans that there are in this community, in this country, rather. You know, this is serious.

LEMON: Mitzi, when you talk about coverage and the lack of coverage, there are many people who will disagree with you, many people on social media who are disagreeing with you right now.

MILLER: I'm sure.

LEMON: And especially people of color who watch news and they'll say, you know I hear about Natalee Holloway and I hear about all of these missing white women and children, but I rarely hear about black children. How can you say that it's not racism? Or at least that there's -- let me rephrase that. Or at least that it's not a double standard? MILLER: I didn't say it wasn't a double standard.

LEMON: Ok.

MILLER: I just think that when we start to say "racism", we get caught up in that negative energy. And what we need to do is a step -- the people in power are going to focus on what matters to them. That's why I choose to focus on the black and missing because that's what matters to "Jet". My community matters to me.

And as long as we're not in power, we're not able to have the majority of people focusing on our issues. That's why we need to do it. That's why we need to be ringing these bells.

LEMON: So before we run out of time, and we have a national audience here --

MILLER: Absolutely.

LEMON: -- let's talk about solutions. What are you hoping to accomplish by this article? And what can we do in the mainstream media to correct this issue?

MILLER: The primary thing is we need to prevent not lament. It is so much easier to handle things beforehand than retroactively, but when it happens, we have to organize, we have to alert people and we have to be persistent. We can't stop. We have to keep talking about our stories. Don't accept, you know, substandard help. Never give up. Don't allow people to walk away from your situation.

Don't allow authorities to misclassify, you know, your missing loved ones as runaways because those hours that are, like -- the time wasted during misclassification, because no amber alerts go off if it's a runaway. An amber alert only goes off if it's classified as an abduction.

LEMON: As an abduction, right.

MILLER: And that is so important. Don't accept that your loved one just walked away. If you feel in your heart, be loud and don't stop talking. We need to, as a community, come together. This is a problem. We are losing 17 of our children every hour. Not a day, every hour -- 17 of our babies go missing. And this should matter to us.

This is our future. When we care, we have to be loud. We have to get everyone involved. That's why "Jet Magazine" is talking about it and we continue to talk about things that matter to our community. We're here --

LEMON: Mitzi --

MILLER: Yes. I'm sorry.

LEMON: No, no, it's ok. Let's put the article back up because I think it's very important and I've read the entire thing. It's really a fascinating article. I encourage everyone to read it. It's called "Fade to Black and it's in "Jet Magazine". And Mitzi Miller is the editor-in-chief.

Thank you very much. Keep doing what you're doing, ok.

MILLER: Thank you.

LEMON: Thank you.

And coming up former heavyweight champ Mike Tyson doesn't pull any punches in his effort to get a presidential pardon for another boxer. I'll tell you why he's fighting to right a historic wrong.

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LEMON: Boxing legend Jack Johnson shattered the status quo by becoming the first African-American heavyweight champion in 1908. He also troubled the status quo when Johnson broke one of the segregated Jim Crowe laws -- Johnson's crime: dating a white woman and eventually marrying one. Convicted in 1913, that crime tarnished Johnson's name and legacy.

There's an effort under way to win a presidential pardon for him. Former heavyweight champion Mike Tyson is part of it.

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MIKE TYSON, FORMER HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPION: Hey, I'm just a great fan of Jack Johnson and, yes I understand the circumstances in which Jack Johnson was convicted under and the circumstances, which at the time, he wasn't even considered a human being.

And Jack Johnson broke all the barriers of his time. He was just the -- he was the first guy, black person in Galveston with a car when he was champion. He was the Ali before Ali.

LEMON: Ali even looked up to him as well. Listen, I think that you probably looked up to him as well. I should mention you're in the motor city right now on tour starring in your one-man show called "undisputed truth." And that is really what Jack Johnson. He tried to live that truth. Do you think that he has a chance?

TYSON: Hey man, I believe God is great and I believe good can be vindicated. I believe in these circumstances and at the time of the circumstance it happened that it was all done with ill, you know, ill will. And I think Mister Johnson will get pardoned. I really believe that because I'm pushing a petition. I have over three million followers and I'm sure we can get -- with the Grace of God, we can get 100,000 votes.

LEMON: Yes. We're looking at the petition now. The petition is on a Web site. It is a Web site change.org. You are trying to get a lot of people to help you out. Some big political heavy-hitters in your corner. Tell us about who they are and what they're doing to help you? TYSON: Listen, I have Senator John McCain and Senator Harry Reid. I had a brief meeting with senator Reid and he's all for it. And I'm just so happy that somebody with the clientele and the prestige of senator McCain and Senator Reid would even think a cheerful man -- 114 years ago this happened. And think that people are stood by them and I think posthumously it's a wonderful thing.

LEMON: Yes. Obviously you have to be able to relate to this man in some way.

TYSON: I'm not even a little bit. Jack Johnson was by himself. I had the NAACP. I had so many black organizations. I had white organizations. I had white, powerful lawyers taking care of me. I'm a multi-multimillionaire when I'm going through my problem.

Jack Johnson is by himself. He had a few preachers. But Jack Johnson was totally against black power movement and all that stuff. He was about getting it for ourselves, you know, because he was never question to blacks people sticking together, you know. All anticipation to the history of black-American that blast with another strongest stick together so, you never trusted each other. He did it by himself.

He didn't have a congregation. He didn't have marketing lobby. He did have no groups or anything. He was by himself. And that shows the greatest courage. Now listen, Don. He's in the ring, Don, and there's 50,000 white, Don, people saying, I'm going to kill you after the ring up to 200 meter bully. And he's in the ring beating a guy, torturing the guy and laughing at the people while he's doing that. And if you believe, come by you, I need (bleep).

Excuse me, Don. But you know, he's in there fighting when these people are saying this. He has been having a good day. And talking to them while he's beating this guy up and they're threatening his life.

LEMON: Hey, listen. Thank you. You are a good sport. We appreciate you coming on. And good luck with us. Let us know how it turns out. Will you come back and talk to us when it's all other.

LEMON: All love, brother.

Next, it has been nearly four years since Michael Jackson died, a civil suit over his death is about to begin. Will his oldest son have to take the stand and testify?

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LEMON: It's hard to believe it's been four years but it has. And nearly four years after Michael Jackson's death, his own children could take the stand in the family's lawsuit against the concert promoter. The Jackson's blame the company, AEG live, for hiring the doctor convicted in Jackson's wrongful death, Conrad Murray. But the promoter counters Murray had been with the star years before its deal with the king of pop.

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LEMON (voice-over): Mike's children could end up playing a major role in this case. 16-year-old prince, the oldest is on the witness list and has already testified during deposition stating that he was intimately involved in his father's affair.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: When Prince Jackson gets up on the witness stand, it will be a very dramatic time. Prince has not publicly talked about his father's last days, but I believe we will hear him tell us what his father told him about what was happening, his concerns, his worries and who he thought he couldn't trust.

LEMON: According to testimony in Conrad Murray's criminal trial, the kids saw their father as he lie lifeless in his bedroom. The kids have been on a lot of ups and downs since their father's death. During the trial, Prince and Paris may be called to testify.

Michael Jackson's children going to be called to the stand to testify?

MARVIN PUTNAM, AEG LIVE ATTORNEY: Not by us. I mean, we have been told that they will be called by plaintiffs. I can't understand why bringing them to the stand has anything to do with whether or not Doctor Conrad Murray was hired by AEG or hire negligibly, but perhaps they are bringing them to the stand for different reasons.

LEMON: The judge has decided to allow Jackson's history of drug use and accusations of child molestation to be introduced at trial.

PUTNAM: Mister Jackson was a grown man and as a grown man he knew what he was doing. Because there is a certain assumptions of risks as there often is with a drug addict and an addict and so that is why the drug abuse would be relevant. And related to that, many people in Mister Jackson's life have indicated that one of the reasons for his ongoing addiction, one of the places where it became really a problem for him was in 1993 around the time of the first accusations about him and a young boy and then again later in mid 2000 around the time of his trial.

KEVIN BOYLE, JACKSON FAMILY ATTORNEY: It was ruling the judge made and I'm not going to comment on that either way. But, I understand the rationale behind the judge's ruling.

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LEMON: And make sure you stay with CNN for Michael Jackson the final days in his first interview behind bars, the man sent to prison for Jackson's death, Doctor Conrad Murray gives his side of the events. My special reports, "Michael Jackson, the final days." It airs tonight 9:00 eastern on CNN.

And we will continue the conversation at 10:00 p.m. as well.

One Texas county, three murders and zero suspect, somebody is killing prosecutors in Kaufman county. A full reports on where the investigation stands right now coming up. (COMMERCIAL BREAK)

LEMON: More possible remains were found this week from the 9/11 attack. Workers are using new technology to sift through debris from the world trade center site. They recovered a total of 59 possible remains this week. More than 1,000 people killed in New York on 9/11 have not been identified. This is the first search with human remains in three years and it's expected to last eight to ten weeks.

A father took a wrong turn on a boating trip and got his family stuck in the Florida Everglades. The man, his wife and three young boys spent the night on a swampy wildness after the boat got stock Thursday in dense vegetation. Later the family blew air horns and whistles. The noise led rescuers to them. All five family members are OK.

The gun store that sold the guns in the Sandy Hook massacre has lost its federal firearms license. Riverview gun sales is about 65 miles from Newtown, Connecticut. The Bush master 223 semiautomatic was bought By Adam Lanza's mother two years ago. The federal agents raided the gun store six days after the 26 children and adults were shot to death. The ATF did not say why the federal license was revoked.

Near Dallas Texas this weekend investigators are stumped in the wake of two violent deaths. Both people killed were following a prosecutors, one of them a district attorney shot dead in his home. Right now, police have some theories but no arrests.

CNN's Martin Savage is in Kaufman, Texas tonight.

MARTIN SAVIDGE, CNN CORRESPONDENT: It was one week ago that the district attorney in Kaufman county and his wife were both found murdered inside their home. Today, the McLelland family, that is the children, they held a news conference and speaking out through a family spokesperson where very critical, very emotional and angry about how the investigation is being handled. They say that it goes all the way back to the original murder here on this county of the chief prosecutor. That was Mark Hasse back at the end of January. And they say that their father had concerns had concerns at that time, that this county didn't have the resources to carry out the investigation and two, trying to protect law enforcement and government officials here. Here's how it was summed up at the news conference today.

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CHRIS HEISLER, MCLELLAND FAMILY SPOKESMAN: Not enough is being done. They're on edge right now. If someone is willing to come out and shoot the district attorney and his wife in their home, obviously their mind-set is anything else is possible.

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SAVIDGE: Now, remember, this is a family that has gone through an incredible tragedy but at the same time they are obviously very afraid because no one has been arrested in this investigation and you have had three murders so far. It has shock this area and it clearly has the family, the McLelland family fearing for their own lives.

Meanwhile, what they are asking for is they would like to see the federal government step in. The feds were already here in the form of FBI but they would like to see more federal involvement, in fact, they would like to see the fed takes the lead in this investigation so that local law enforcement could handle the issue of providing security.

They have a lot of concerns and a lot of emotion and it is all coming to a boil - Don.

LEMON: All right, Martin. Thank you very much.

Imagine watching live TV anywhere you want to. A judge's new ruling, a big surprise to some may have brought that closer to you and the network. They are not happy. That's ahead.

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LEMON: This weekend, UFOs and alien abductions have a new home in Myrtle Beach, South Carolina. It's the grand opening of encounters UFO experience. But, it is not the first of its kind in the state of smaller version has been welcoming visitors wherever they might be from for years now created by a man who says he once said he had close encounters with aliens.

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JODY PENDARVIS, CREATOR, UFO WELCOME CENTER: Welcome to planet earth.

Aliens can fly from the mother or the south and land in the parking lot and come in and chitchat with me, guys.

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LEMON: And Jody Pendarvis built his welcome center in the 1990s. He says out of space visitors did indeed drop by in 1989 and he sounds like he misses them.

The way we use money has changed a lot. Today many of us only use debit card, some even have their phones linked to a bank account. Bitcoins get of the bank all together. It is virtually currently use mainly online. But scored are popping that take them.

And soon, special ATMs and Los Angeles and Cyprus will let you convert between real currency and Bitcoins. How weird to Bitcoins get? Nobody even knows who created them in the first place. But after the Cyprus banking collapse, it's on the rise now.

What if you really could watch TV every day anywhere?

Our Zain Asher says one company called Aereo is already doing that.

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ZAIN ASHER, CNN CORRESPONDENT: For $80 a year, Aereo will let you stream live TV from network stations like ABC and NBC straight on to your phone or ipad, all day every day.

JOHN BERGMAYER, SENIOR STAFF ATTORNEY, PUBLIC KNOWLEDGE: There's a lot of demand for people to be able to access content over their computers in the more flexible way. People want to pay less.

ASHER: It works by using this antenna, about the size of a dime that captures a broadcast signal. It's precisely the reason the network giants are having trouble sleeping. In a statement, the national association of broadcasters called Aereo's operations illegal agreeing with other critics who call it a sham.

BERGMAYER: This is a controversial service for sure. And the legal fight in not done.

ASHER: Networks say the star have found a clever way to make money from content it doesn't own. But lucky for Aereo, David is winning against go goliath. On Monday, a U.S. appeals court are found that Aereo's violates no copy right laws. A huge blow to the 17 network broadcasters who hoped that it would retreat back into its cave.

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LEMON: All right, our thanks to Zain Asher. CNN's Money's tech expert Laurie Segall.

LAURIE SEGALL, CNN MONEY TECHNOLOGY REPORTER: There it is.

LEMON: There it is. God, I guess, you slowed down.

Now, on to the court of appeals sided with Aereo. They are expanding. What does that mean for the viewer at home, Laurie?

SEGALL: It means a lot of things, Don. I MEAN, This was a pretty good ruling because, you know, a lot of the big giants wanted to take this company down because essentially, you know, they are letting people access their content and not making them pay for it.

But essentially, this means people in more 22 states around the United States can access content on their mobile devices. They can get on their tablets. They don't have to be sitting in front of a TV to watch many of the shows that they watch on a regular basis. And pain of models that is interesting, they have got a prescription payment model where you can pay a dollar on demand, you can pay $8 a month. So really, this -- and they can hook this up to Apple TV (9INAUDIBLE). So, it's really kind of shaking up the traditional television world as we know it, Don.

LEMON: OK. This reminds me of the battle that (INAUDIBLE) Napster had years ago with the music industry. That did not ultimately turn out great for those guys. Are broadcasters are coming up with their own plan here? SEGALL: Yes. Well, I'm old enough. I do remember this. And it was huge because, you know, what Sean Parker at Napster, what they did was completely, you know, disrupt the traditional music industry.

So, you know, I think when it comes down to it, this is very -- this sounds very familiar. You know, you've got the big guys really worried about this. And you know, it ended up Napster, you know, that kind of failed but they created Spotify eventually which had the subscription model and it ended up working. So, it is about kind of everyone getting together. And it about this traditional industry being disrupted. And we actually spoke to Aereo's CEO and we chatted him about the disruption and how the Internet could disrupt television.

Listen to what he said, Don.

LEMON: OK.

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CHET KANOJIA, CEO, AEREO: To recast the moderate for the industry which is still frankly from a business and how to deal with consumers stuck in the '60s, to move - bring it to the Internet era and that is the one that is missing - there s a lot of things, especially with the one key mediate point that is missing in - on the Internet is television.

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SEGALL: And Don, you know, Bloomberg has partnered up with Aereo. You got Time Warner has TV everywhere which allows you to access, you know, so you can watch CNN on the go. So, it's not like us big guys and that we not completely ignoring all of the disruption happening. But it is about innovating and really trying to push this forward.

LEMON: Laurie Segall, always a pleasure. Thank you.

SEGALL: Thank you.

LEMON: It must be embarrassing for a nation once known for being a destination for European criminals to have this guy who some are calling Australia's dumbest crook. That story is next.

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LEMON: What separates a world class purse snatcher from a town idiot? Apparently a very clean pane of glass.

Here's CNN's Jeanne Moos.

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JEANNE MOOS, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Call it the glass half-empty approach to purse snatching. In Australia, they are calling him, the country's dumbest crook. Here he is following a woman in a shopping center. He grabs her bag and heads to the door. Heads through the glass door. He's momentarily knocked out.

GREG RICE, WITNESS: There was a lot of blood around. There was a lot of glass shards around so I mean, I would say you had to go to the hospital after that.

MOOS: An apparent accomplice arrives as he drags away the purse snatcher, a tattoo store owner tries to stop it. But eventually, backs off when accomplice threatens him.

JAKE ADAMS, TATTOO SHOP OWNER: He says I've got a gun, I'm going to shoot you. I'm going to shoot you.

MOOS: The two escape in a stolen car but they can't escape infamy on the Internet.

Why is the glass seems to be such an idiot magnet. It is almost as if that there is some sort of gravitational pull.

Just last week, security camera video of this genius surfaced. First, he forgot to put on his black panty hose mask as he approached the mom and pop grocery store in Redding, California.

Police believe the pajamas featured little chickens. He sure acted chicken when the rock he threw set off an alarm and then he tripped. Next thing you know, his escapade being put to music popularized by Benny Hill and the pink panther.

One you tuber made even did parody a re-enactment. When man meets glass, glass usually wins. For instance, when air rage over missing two flights caused this Chinese executive to try to batters way on board. Maybe glass is tough enough for Virgin Atlantic airways for glass-bottom planes. That's what Virgin announced to its launching. It might make the walk to the restroom less than restful. But it turns out, it is just April fools but not as big of a fool as this guy.

Jeanne Moos, CNN, New York.

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LEMON: Idiot.

Ok. So. set your DVRs and join me tonight at 10:00. Public opinion in favoring legalizing marijuana is at an all-time high.

For the first time people who say marijuana should be legal outnumber those that say it shouldn't be legal. A few months ago, Colorado Washington state voters made pot legal. At 10:00 eastern, we will talk with the former judge in Denver. He helped get pot legal in Colorado. We will get his take. Is the U.S. about to become a pot nation? Tonight at 10:00 eastern.

And I'm Don Lemon at the CNN world headquarters in Atlanta. I'm going to see you back here at 10:00 p.m. eastern. Make sure you join me.

In the meantime, the Justin Timberlake experience begins right now.