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U.S. Stocks Rally Day After Boston Marathon Bombings; DPRK Threaten Sledge Hammer Military Action Against South Korea
Aired April 16, 2013 - 16:20 ET
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BECKY ANDERSON, HOST: A moment of silence on the floor of the New York Stock Exchange earlier this Tuesday to one of the victims of the Boston Marathon tragedy. You're watching Connect the World live from London. Welcome back. I'm Becky Anderson.
Felicia Taylor is in New York, she joins us now live from the CNN Money room. Quite a significant fall in the markets yesterday as news of this Boston massacre came out. What's the story today?
FELICIA TAYLOR, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Well, you know, you have to obviously recognize that, you know, people had a moment of silence in memory of what happened yesterday in the bombings and the tragedy of the people that were affected by that, but you know, Wall Street is about a reality check. And so it was back to business as usual after that moment of silence, but nevertheless Wall Street remembers very succinctly what happened back in 2001 with September 11. So, I mean, these are memories that are very vivid in these trader's minds.
So it's a significant event obviously what happened in Boston, but nevertheless, you know, it's back to business as usual. And we did see a fairly significant run-up of 157 points on the marketplace pretty much throughout the day seeing quite a healthy rally.
We have had some earnings reports coming out. After the bell, in particular, we saw Intel reporting. PC sales did slump. They had a 17 percent downturn in earnings, but it was still within expectations and their forward guidance was also within expectations. So that was good news for the stock. In after hours, the stock is actually up about 2 percent.
We've also heard from Yahoo. That came in within expectations. But nevertheless the expectations for Yahoo are not as great, and that stock is trading down about a half a percent.
Coca-Cola also reporting today. That was better than expected. That stock was up almost five-and-two-thirds percent, mostly because of its U.S. operations. Sort of a regroup in that, which is very significant because obviously the United States is a significant market for Coca-Cola. And again they've been able to also divest some of their bottlers divisions, which was good news for them and raised a little bit of cash -- Becky.
ANDERSON: All right. Some significant earnings out after the markets closed. Felicia, thank you for that.
We'll do more on the Boston bombings, of course. A moment of silence as we said at the New York Stock Exchange marking the 183 who are injured, 23 of those critically, and of course three people have lost their lives, the information very, very sketchy.
Still, as to what happened at the Boston Marathon, who planted the bombs and why. More on that as you can imagine here on CNN in the minutes to come.
Let's do some other news for you. Sources tell CNN that dozens of people have been killed by a major earthquake on the Iran-Pakistani border. The 7.8 magnitude quake was felt across the Gulf region. Now the U.S. Geological Survey says that the epicenter was in Iran's remote Sistan va Balugestan Province where a state of emergency has been declared. At least 34 people are said to have been killed in Pakistan, around 80 injured. Now 12 were hurt on the Iranian side of the border, but not deaths have been reported.
Well, that region has already been hit by one aftershock, more expected over the coming days. And for the latest on that, let's get to Jenny Harrison who is at the world weather center. And Jen, so little news certainly out of the Iranian side of the border. What can you tell us about what happened and what may happen next?
JENNY HARRISON, CNN WEATHER CORRESPONDENT: Well, you're right, actually, Becky, very little news indeed. And with a magnitude quake so very power, we would first of all have expected a little bit more to come from Iran, but also we would also at this point would have expected probably more aftershocks. So there it was, 7.8 magnitude. We got the three plates here. The Eurasian Plate, which by the way moves about 37 millimeters a year it moves up to the north-northeast. So this, of course, is where it took place.
Now the actual quake actually took place at about a quarter past three in the afternoon local time. It was very deep, this quake, about 82 kilometers deep, that would have helped, because the deep, dense rock would have really helped to absorb a lot of the impact, which was a good thing because when you look at the shake map that gets put on top of this you can see that it was very strong, the shaking that was felt. If it had been a lot closer to the surface than the shaking would have been ever worse than that. So this would have all gone to hell.
And then the second quake that came through, the 4.1 magnitude, that was actually relatively light, but again very deep, that was actually 65 kilometers deep. And that one took place 24 minutes past 6:00 later in the day in the early evening hours.
So that is what actually happened.
Now we do expect there to be more aftershocks certainly with a quake of that magnitude. The weather conditions are pretty good, actually. Certainly this time of year we're going into the dry months of the year, also the warmer months, because it's at a fairly high altitude, about 1,300 meters. And you can see the temperature right now in Zahedan is 18 degrees Celsius. The winds are coming from the north, fairly light winds. And over the next few days, we expect the temperature to stay actually on the warm side. You can see Thursday and Friday actually well above the average, which is 28 degrees Celsius. And the overnight hours, also staying on the mild side. So all of that is fairly good news.
But as you say, Becky, we do expect to have more aftershocks. We'll just continue to monitor this situation in the hours and the days ahead.
ANDERSON: All right, Jen, thank you for that.
Moving on. And North Korea is rejecting an offer of dialogue from the United States, calling it a, and I quote, "crafty ploy." It's also making new threats against South Korea after these demonstrations in Seoul. Now protesters burned effigies of three generations of North Korean leaders.
Pyongyang is threatening sledge hammer military action, the latest in a long series of recent threats. The North Korean ambassador says Washington and Seoul are the real instigators.
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HYON HAK-BONG, NORTH KOREAN AMBASSADOR TO BRITAIN: The western mass media are talking about the tense situation on the Korean Peninsula. But the point is, the problem here it is that they are describing as if the DPR Korea is provocating (ph), but that is not true. We are being provoked by the United States and South Korea. And we are only responding to that provocation and to their military threats.
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ANDERSON: Well, a U.S. Helicopter taking part in military exercises with South Korea crash landed today. All 21 personnel on board were taken to hospital.
North Korea considers these joint exercises hostile and provocative.
Well, the latest world news headlines, as you'd expect, at the bottom of the hour.
Plus, was it homegrown terrorism or is there a foreign connection? We're going to have the very latest on the investigation into the Boston Marathon bombings.
And in London, keeping marathon runners and spectators safe this Sunday. The UK's former minister in security of the security and counterterrorism will be here live.
And former South African President FW De Klerk pays tribute to the late Margaret Thatcher a day ahead of her funeral. My interview with him later in the show.
ANDERSON: Welcome back, I'm Becky Anderson in London for you. This is CONNECT THE WORLD, the top stories, as you would imagine, this hour.
A US law-enforcement source tells CNN both bombs used to attack the Boston Marathon were apparently placed inside pressure cookers, then hidden in backpacks. Investigators believe the bombs were detonated by timers, not remotely by cell phone. Three people were killed in the blast, more than 180 wounded.
Sources tell CNN at least 34 people are dead and 80 injured in Pakistan following a powerful earthquake. The epicenter was across the border in southeastern Iran. Officials say a dozen people there were injured.
At least seven people are dead after post-election violence in Venezuela. President-elect Nicolas Maduro accuses the opposition of planning a coup against him. His defeated rival Henrique Capriles is demanding a full recount.
And no one was killed when a US marine helicopter crashed not far from the North Korean border. The helicopter was part of joint military exercises between the US and South Korea, 21 people were onboard, 6 are now in hospital.
US authorities are vowing to go, and I quote, "to the ends of the Earth" to find those responsible for the Boston Marathon bombings. Here is what we know this hour.
A US officials says investigators have found no al Qaeda or foreign connection. They are still considering all possibilities. They are analyzing tips from the public and from hundreds of videos from the scene, trying to determine a motive.
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ANDERSON: One explosion was caught on a runner's camera. Two blasts went off near the finish line about 12 seconds apart. Authorities have now identified the second of three people killed, 29-year-old Krystle Campbell. Eight-year-old Martin Richard is also among the dead. At least 183 people were injured, many of them seriously.
President Barack Obama is promising justice.
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BARACK OBAMA, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: This was a heinous and cowardly act, and given what we now know about what took place, the FBI is investigating it as an act of terrorism. Anytime bombs are used to target innocent civilians, it is an act of terror.
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ANDERSON: President Obama speaking earlier. Well, doctors are working around the clock, as you can imagine, to treat the injured. Let's get an update from CNN's chief medical correspondent, Sanjay Gupta. He's outside Brigham and Women's Hospital.
Sanjay, 183 people, some -- injured, some 23 of them critically injured. Do we have any sense of the nature, at this stage, of these injuries?
SANJAY GUPTA, CNN CHIEF MEDICAL CORRESPONDENT: Yes, we have a pretty good idea, Becky, and it's unusual in the pattern of injuries. First of all, the numbers have gone up in part because there are people who may have had more minor injuries who are now coming to the hospital throughout the day today, realizing that they may have had an injury that they didn't realize at the time.
But the most severe injuries really seem to be from a blast force from this explosion that stayed pretty close to the ground. And Becky, you and I have been in war zones, you know that they tell you to hit the deck if there's an explosion in the area because mostly the explosion -- the force is up and out.
And here, for whatever reason, I'm not sure yet, it stayed close to the ground. So, as a result, leg injuries, lower extremity injuries, seem to be the most common critical injury.
There have been a few patients that we've seen at one of the biggest trauma centers here behind me who've also had neck injuries, head injuries and penetration of shrapnel to the neck as well, but they were further away. So, that gives you a little bit of an idea of the pattern of these injuries, Becky.
ANDERSON: How well-experienced are the medics who are dealing with these injuries in these hospitals in Boston? Will the recognize these injuries? Will they have seen them before?
GUPTA: It's unlikely they've seen them before, unless they've been on battlefields. I talked to the head of surgery here, who's been here for 20 years, and the head of the emergency department, who's also been here for about 20 years, and they both told me they'd never seen anything quite like this.
And -- but it doesn't mean that they -- they weren't trained, though, because trauma training follows some very, very predictable patterns. You control the airway, you make sure someone's breathing, you make sure the blood is circulating throughout the body. So, regardless of the source of trauma, those things stay the same, Becky.
ANDERSON: Sanjay, thank you for that, outside the hospital there. And as Sanjay's been speaking, we've just got word that the Boston area hospitals have now released 89 of the 189 -- or 183 people injured in Monday's attack. That's according to CNN's latest tally.
So, of the 183 people injured, we knew that there were some 23 critical, we also know, sadly, that 3 people have lost their lives. But the good news this hour is that 89 of those 183 people injured in Monday's attack appear now to have been released.
As the investigation goes on in Boston, security for Sunday's London Marathon is under review, understandably. Britain's sports minister, Hugh Robertson, says he has faith in UK security and in the race's organizers.
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HUGH ROBERTSON, BRITISH MINISTER FOR SPORT: We have some of the very best, if not the best, professionals in the world working on a daily basis to keep us safe, and I'm as confident as you possibly can be at this stage, that we will deliver a safe and secure marathon on Sunday.
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ANDERSON: Organizers confirm the London Marathon will go ahead as planned. About 35,000 runners are scheduled to take part, with many more, of course, turning out to cheer them on. So, London taking no chances.
My colleague Max Foster talked to a crisis management expert earlier about what it takes to keep a city of more than 8 million people safe, especially during one of the year's biggest public events. This is what he learned.
MAX FOSTER, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Well, the London Marathon is just a few days away, now. The finish line will be just up there along the Mall, and the police have said they are reviewing security measures because of what happened in Boston.
Peter Power is a security expert here. In terms of a review, what exactly will they be looking at now?
PETER POWER, CRISIS MANAGEMENT SPECIALIST: Well, the review in advance of the London Marathon will be happening almost every hour. It'll be a constant process. But it is hardly the first time that London Marathon has been held. In previous years, it's been held at a time when the treat level from terrorism is even higher than it is now.
So, as we're speaking, on this day, a number of terrorists are being convicted in London of an attempt to blow up an army barracks. That is probably of equal measure in terms of the threat as is the events in Boston.
FOSTER: But could Boston and what happened in Boston have an effect on domestic terrorism here in the UK?
POWER: It's difficult to say. Domestic terrorism in the UK has got a whole range of things. We have had lone individuals, the equivalent of Timothy McVeigh in Oklahoma and so on. They can be inspired by this.
But right now, we are covered by probably over 10,000 close-circuit television cameras in the whole of London that feed back information constantly. So we in London -- I hate to say it -- are relatively prepared for terrorism. I wish we weren't sometimes. But that's the truth of it.
FOSTER: Even before the marathon, we've got Margaret Thatcher's funeral. That's only tomorrow, another big public event. The police say they're not reviewing security in relation to that, but surely there must be a heightened sense of concern because of what happened in Boston?
POWER: Yes, there is, but the police philosophy in London is pretty much taking reasonable steps against unreasonable people. Where on that tightrope are you allowed to intervene and preventatively do things.
For example, does it enable you the day before the marathon or even the day before the funeral to execute search warrants just in case people might be willing or anxious to actually create a major disturbance?
FOSTER: They're more justified now, aren't they?
POWER: They are, but it's a difficult one for the police, and the police in London are very, very sensitive about this.
Two key words are "reasonable" and "proportionate." What that actually means is very subjective, as we'll see in the next few hours.
ANDERSON: Reasonable and proportionate security measures. Pauline Neville-Jones once ran the British joint intelligence committee. She was also the UK's home office minister for security and counter-terrorism. She joins me now here in our London studio.
And before we talk about security preparations for the London Marathon, just walk me behind closed doors, as it were, and let's talk to the Boston Marathon. What sort of intelligence will be going across the Atlantic at this point?
PAULINE NEVILLE-JONES, FORMER UK MINISTER OF SECURITY AND COUNTER- TERRORISM: Well, obviously, London Marathon is something you prepare for in great detail, both at the intelligence level and the policing level.
In the light of what's just happened, obviously, one of the things immediately will be that the intelligence services will be in touch with each other about what exactly they can establish about the organization of this appalling atrocity. And it is an appalling atrocity.
And they'll want to know what kind of organize -- what kind of plot it was, how big a scale. They'll also be extremely interested in communication. It's very obvious -- is it not? -- that you can't organize something on an scale without somehow communicating with people. And that always leads a trace.
Now, if it's an international-inspired terrorist attack, then that's one of the early things that you might hope to pick up. If it's domestic, that's probably harder. And that's the kind of indication they'll be looking for. And obviously something that's international will be a greater concern --
ANDERSON: To London.
NEVILLE-JONES: -- to London, yes.
ANDERSON: As I watch the events in Boston unfold, I wonder to myself how difficult it must be to be in the security services. One has to assume, as a sort of relatively normal person, that big, crowded events like that will just be -- will be crowded for all the right reasons, people who are just cheering people. How do you secure 35,000 runners and possibly as many as half a million spectators?
NEVILLE-JONES: Well, you can't have perfect security. I think we all know that. You can, obviously, mitigate the risk and reduce it. And clearly, good intelligence is part of that, knowing whether there's any kind of threat.
Now, there wasn't, it would appear, any indication. What they may, of course, in due course discover, is that there were indications that they didn't recognize as being such. And that is what intelligence is all about, and then you can be very wise after the event and there's a frightful blame game.
I believe, actually, intelligence services do do a good job, and they are extraordinarily conscientious. So, that's one side of the thing.
The other side, obviously, is policing. And the police themselves, now, increasingly have what I would describe as an intelligence role. They are the people who have to listen to Twitter. They're the people who have actually to follow likely organizers' activities if they are about to do something.
Now, that's -- that is something you would certainly do if you knew there was going to be a demonstration. Tomorrow, when Lady Thatcher's funeral, they'll be doing that.
ANDERSON: I was going to ask you about that, because the London Marathon, of course, is on Sunday --
ANDERSON: -- but Margaret Thatcher's funeral is tomorrow --
ANDERSON: -- on Wednesday, and you can get coverage of that here on CNN. There are likely to be protesters, for example, along the route.
NEVILLE-JONES: There are likely to be protesters, and let us hope that they will be responsible protesters. It would appear, I think, quite a lot of people will just express their displeasure by turning their back on the hearse as it goes by. I would be surprised, I have to say, if there was anything violent.
Nevertheless, the police do have to prepare for that. So, they do have, actually, now these days not only to have monitored the scene beforehand, set up the best security arrangements they can, but they have to monitor it absolutely continuously.
So, real-time monitoring of live events is actually now something that the police have to do, and they have to be prepared and able to move their police forces around.
ANDERSON: We're going to have to leave it there, but thank you very much, indeed, for joining us. Cross our fingers.
Live from London, you're watching CONNECT THE WORLD. It is just about a quarter to ten London time. Coming up after the break, the chaos captured on camera. We're going to show you some of the images of the aftermath of the Boston attack captured by our iReports.
And then later, one baseball player remembers the victims of the Boston bombing, both on and off the field.
ANDERSON: The firsthand accounts that we've been hearing throughout the day paint a picture of utter chaos and confusion as the bombs in Boston went off. CNN's iReports have been sending through pictures that, quite frankly, speak for themselves. Have a look.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Say a prayer! Say a prayer!
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: My people of Boston, we're very resilient and we're going to get to the bottom of this and we are going to provide. No bomb can beat us. We're bigger than a bomb.
ANDERSON: The local sports teams in Boston postponed or canceled their scheduled games due to the attack. Elsewhere, though, in the US, there were moments of silence before games played in other cities. On Tuesday, that practice spread to London ahead of the Premier League match between Arsenal and Everton.
Pedro Pinto joins me now and has the story of how one athlete remembered the victims. And this is a great story.
PEDRO PINTO, CNN SPORTS CORRESPONDENT: It is, and I would like to say, Becky, that it's been amazing the way in which the sporting community has kind of pulled together and the way they've been communicating on Twitter and saying they all have the Boston Marathon victims in their mind, and when they're out there in action.
And this is one player who took it another step, and he actually wrote a message on a piece of paper and stuck it on his baseball glove. This is Ben Revere, who wrote the message "Pray for Boston" just before he went out there and was in action for the Philadelphia Phillies in a Major League baseball game against the Cincinnati Reds.
And I think it would be fair to say that maybe he was inspired by this message as well, because he put in an incredible performance and had one of the plays of the season so far. It happened in the second inning of this game between the Phillies and the Reds.
And take a look at this. He just makes an incredible catch --
PEDRO: -- flying, and that led to a double play as well. But Ben Revere definitely with the victims on his mind before, during, after the game, as he told reporters right after he was out there on the baseball diamond representing his team in the Major Leagues.
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BEN REVERE, PHILADELPHIA PHILLIES: I wrote "Pray for Boston" on there, and I was just -- the tragedy happened this morning, I was just trying to reach out for the family out there and everything. Just keep them in my heart, no matter if I'm at the house or playing on the ball field. Whatever happens, I'll have them in my heart.
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ANDERSON: That is a fantastic story, and good for him. What a remarkable catch! Listen, the Boston Marathon is, sadly, only the latest sporting event to be targeted by, let's call it terrorism, because people have been terrified.
PINTO: Yes, and of course, most people think about the 1972 Olympics in Munich, right? When the Israeli athletes were killed by a terrorist attack by a Palestinian terrorist group. But over the last five years or so, there have been other cases, unfortunately, of sporting events being affected by attacks.
And I'd like to start with one in 2008, also a marathon, in Sri Lanka. A dozen people were killed there at the start of the marathon when that was hit by an attack. In the same year, the Dakar Rally was canceled for the first time in its 30-year history after the threat of an attack from al Qaeda.
In March 2009, the Sri Lankan cricket team bus was attacked in Lahore in Pakistan, you might remember this, Becky, killing seven people. International cricket hasn't been played in Pakistan since, so huge repercussions.
And three people were killed and nine injured when the Togo football team bus was ambushed in Angola during the 2010 Africa Cup of Nations.
The thing is, Becky, as you know, with the kind of profile that a lot of sporting events have, I think groups who want to create a lot of reaction to their attacks do it around sporting --
PINTO: -- events, and they know that's guaranteed.
ANDERSON: It was the last one coming out, I don't think Adebayor has ever got over --
ANDERSON: -- sadly. Anyway --
ANDERSON: -- thank you.
ANDERSON: Sad stories, but listen, let's move it on. If you want to help out and find out how you can help victims of the Boston bombings, head to our Impact Your World webpage at cnn.com/impact.
Now, coming up after this short break, on the even of Margaret Thatcher's funeral, I speak to one of the high-profile guests invited to pay tribute. That after this.
ANDERSON: On the eve of her funeral, Margaret Thatcher's body is resting inside the Palace of Westminster this evening. The former British prime minister's coffin was moved inside the Chapel of St. Mary Undercroft earlier today.
Around 100 people, including family and senior parliamentary figures, attended a small and private service this afternoon. MPs and staff have also paid their respects this evening. The chaplain will now maintain a vigil outside the chapel until Thatcher's coffin begins its journey to St. Paul's Cathedral in just under 13 hours' time.
Well, 2,000 guests have been invited to that funeral, including heads of state past and present from around the world, and among them is the former president of South Africa, F.W. De Klerk, who famously announced the end of Apartheid 23 years ago.
Earlier, I sat down with the former leader, who was keen to pay tribute to a lady he counted not just a political ally, but as a friend.
F.W. DE KLERK, FORMER PRESIDENT OF SOUTH AFRICA: It's a moment to look back on the history of a great leader. I think she was not only a very special prime minister for Great Britain, but her leadership had an impact on many parts of the world. It definitely had quite an impact on the recent history of South Africa.
ANDERSON: She won't be missed by many South Africans who will have perceived her not as a steadfast critic of apartheid but, to a certain extent, a supporter of that regime.
DE KLERK: I think that would be -- do an injustice to her to say that she supported apartheid. She was a consistent critic of apartheid. But she had, I think, a greater understanding than most of her contemporaries about the complexities involved in South Africa.
She accepted that any solution must offer security and opportunity to all South Africans, including whites. And she realized that in order for us to move forward, we needed to negotiate a new constitutional dispensation.
My very first meeting with her, I was, in a sense, president-elect, and I briefed her here in London in 10 Downing Street about my vision. Beforehand, people said she would give me a lecture. She didn't give me a lecture. She listened carefully and asked penetrating, well-informed questions.
And at the end, she said, "If you do what you've just told me, you will have my support." From even well-before I became president, she was also urging the release of the leadership of the ANC because she believed they should be part of any future negotiations.
ANDERSON: Did you ever hear her allude to or call Mandela or the ANC terrorists?
DE KLERK: No. Never in my presence, and to me, it's inconsistent that she would call him a terrorist but at the same time say he must be released.
The only knowledge that I have of that is Lord Robin Renwick's recollection that she referred to the ANC as a terrorist organization when they threatened to target British interests in South Africa because of her stance on not broadening sanctions against South Africa.
ANDERSON: We are seeing celebrations by the ANC since Margaret Thatcher had died. Not something you agree with, I assume.
DE KLERK: I don't think the ANC as such is doing it. The formal statement issued by the ANC is a well-balanced statement. They note the fact that they had great differences in the past with Lady Thatcher, but they also said she was in her own right a great leader.
It's elements in the ANC which are guilty of this unworthy conduct, and I condemn that. I think it's in ill taste, to put it mildly.
ANDERSON: F.W. de Klerk, and we will give you the full coverage of that funeral, of course, here on CNN tomorrow. I'm Becky Anderson, thanks for watching.