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Bombing Suspect Unable to Speak; Suspect to Face Terrorism Charges
Aired April 21, 2013 - 07:00 ET
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JOHN BERMAN, CNN ANCHOR: All right. Thanks so much, Andy. We choose to focus on the Red Sox here.
ZORAIDA SAMBOLIN, CNN ANCHOR: Thank you very much.
BERMAN: Thanks for joining us. We have so much more ahead on CNN SUNDAY MORNING which starts right now.
Good morning, everyone. I'm John Berman live in Boston.
SAMBOLIN: And I'm Zoraida Sambolin. Thank you so much for joining us.
CNN special coverage of the Boston marathon bombings continues.
BERMAN: And let's get to latest on these bombings. Perhaps the only person who knows the motive for the attack is sedated with a tube running down his throat.
Dzhokhar Tsarnaev is under heavy guard this morning in a Boston hospital. Officials say the 19-year-old suspect will face federal terrorism charges and possibly murder charges in Massachusetts. We have also learned more about the shootout early Friday in Watertown that led the other suspect, his older brother, dead.
The police chief told CNN that officers found handguns, a rifle and at least six bombs including one made from a pressure cooker at the scene. He also said that during the gun battle, the surviving suspect drove a stolen car toward officers and ended up dragging his own brother down the street. Investigators now also saying the evidence suggests the brothers acted alone.
Meanwhile, at least 57 bombing victims are still in the hospital. Two of them in critical condition.
SAMBOLIN: In just about two hours, the University of Massachusetts at Dartmouth is set to reopen the campus where 19-year- old Dzhokhar Tsarnaev was a student. It was evacuated Friday as authorities tried to track down the bombing suspect. He, of course, was found in Watertown. But school officials confirm Tsarnaev had been back on campus after the attack.
Our Chris Lawrence is there this morning.
And, Chris, what are students saying this morning?
CHRIS LAWRENCE, CNN PENTAGON CORRESPONDENT: They are still in shock, Zoraida. I mean, we're now getting some new information about what happened between Monday's bombing and Friday's capture. We're learning basically that while investigators were poring over thousands of videos and photos trying to piece together what had happened, the man who was at the center of that video was right here on campus going to the gym to work out and sleeping in his dorm room.
LAWRENCE (voice-over): The helicopters came and left campus. SWAT teams and investigators hauled potential evidence from the dorm. But they couldn't answer students' biggest question: why did the teenager they knew as Dzhokhar return to campus after the Boston marathon bombing?
(on camera): Are you surprised after what happened on Monday, he could come back to the dorms, go work out at the gym, maybe go to a party?
"FLO", UMASS DARTHMOUTH STUDENT: I'm really surprised. Why would you come back? Come back for what? Like it's not possible to come back to living a normal life.
LAWRENCE (voice-over): But that's exactly what Dzhokhar Tsarnaev did. He came back to college like nothing happened.
HARRY DANSO, UMASS DARTMOUTH STUDENT: He was in the hallway, just said hi and that's it. We just go (INAUDIBLE).
LAWRENCE: Less than 48 hours after the bombing, Harry Danso was making small talk with Tsarnaev in the dorm they share.
(on camera): Did he seem upset, scared, nervous?
DANSON: He gave me a regular smile like usual.
LAWRENCE (voice-over): Students have to swipe their IDs to get into buildings here. UMass Dartmouth officials confirm Tsarnaev's ID was swiped at his dorm and the gym.
JAY HONGDA, BOMBIMB SUSPECT'S FRIEND: I was shocked. I was just grateful he didn't place a bomb in our building, in our hallway. We live right next to the guy.
LAWRENCE: Jay Hongda is a friend of Tsarnaev's who can't comprehend how normal things seemed between Monday's bombing and Friday's capture.
HONDA: Like Dr. Jekyll and Hyde, you know, like one minute you do something, and the next minute, you're perfectly OK.
LAWRENCE: One student told us, Dzhokhar rarely talked about politics, but when he did, it was about his home country. AUSTIN HIGHTOWER, BOMBING SUSPECT'S FRIEND: We just talked about life in Chechnya and what's going on there, how nationalistic the people in Chechnya are.
LAWRENCE: Dzhokhar was an ethic Chechen who came with his family from Kyrgyzstan when he was very young. Some of the students we talk to say he liked to play soccer, intramural soccer. He liked to smoke weed. Other words, they say there was nothing about him that really jumped out as anything other than what thousands of other college students around here do on a typical day -- Zoraida, John.
SAMBOLIN: Yes, such a bold and bizarre move to go back to your university.
Chris Lawrence, thank you.
BERMAN: While students in the Boston area, other schools return to normal right now. The teen bombing suspect is lying in a hospital bed this morning. The officials tell CNN he had been intubated, he has been intubated. And right now, he cannot talk.
Susan Candiotti is standing outside the hospital.
And, Susan, what do we know about his condition this morning?
SUSAN CANDIOTTI, CNN NATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Well, hi, John, good morning to you.
Because officials tell us he has these throat injuries and because of what you mentioned as well, that means he simply can't talk to investigators, even if they wanted to. So -- or even if he wanted to.
So, for now, they have to sit and wait to see if his medical condition improves and if so, when that will be. This is a concern for investigators because they are trying to find out as much information as they can get about what he and his brother were up to, how long they had been planning it and this is how the governor weighs in on that.
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GOV. DEVAL PATRICK (D), MASSACHUSETTS: I think all of the law enforcement professionals are hoping for a host of reasons that the suspect survives, because we have a million questions and those questions need to be answered.
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CANDIOTTI: In the meantime, prosecutors are working on putting together their terrorism case against him. It's possible they might have charges ready today, but there's certainly no hurry to get him into court obviously because of his medical condition -- John. SAMBOLIN: Susan, I want to talk a little more about the manhunt that was underway. We are seeing these thermal images taken just before the capture. What do they show us?
CANDIOTTI: That's right. We received those from the Massachusetts state police. Amazing pictures that we're receiving from them. It illustrates a technology that they had.
And so, when they got a tip there might be someone in the boat, the suspect sent up the hopper with thermal imaging equipment and it showed that there was something in that boat because of the heat that was being generated. So, those -- that's the picture of form that you see colored in white and eventually in black where they can make out detail.
And so, after doing that, they were able to send in a robot with a long arm that was able to pick up the tarp on top of the boat. Of course, that told the tale they knew for sure that that suspect was in there and that's when they sent in the SWAT team and tried to talk him out. There was an exchange of gunfire and, finally, the arrest was made.
BERMAN: What a conclusion. Susan Candiotti outside Beth Israel Hospital right now, where the suspect Dzhokhar Tsarnaev intubated, sedated and officials waiting, hoping they can talk to him soon.
Susan Candiotti, thanks very much.
CANDIOTTI: You bet.
SAMBOLIN: Meantime, the suspect's uncle is speaking out in an exclusive sit-down interview with our Shannon Travis. Ruslan Tsarni said they were, quote, "brainwashed". Take a listen.
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RUSLAN TSARNI, SUSPECT'S UNCLE: I caught one of the gentleman leaving in that area who is private to their family. I said, listen, do you know what is going on with that family? With my brother's family? I heard that talking from Tamerlan, where that might be coming from? And he said, oh, yes, there is such a thing. There's a person, sort of some new convert to Islam of Armenian descent.
Armenians, I mean, I have no intention to say anything about Armenians. It's a neighboring region with north caucuses. I said this person took his brain. He brainwashed him completely.
Tamerlan is off now. There's no obedience and respect to his own father. Tamerlan, I mean, walking and walking and (INAUDIBLE) Massachusetts.
Starbucks, I was his I'm telling him about my business. He's asking me questions. (INAUDIBLE) beautiful, tall, I was even happy for his height. His humor, sense of humor, laughing, kids going by saying hi. That was 2006.
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SAMBOLIN: Tsarni went on to say he wants his surviving nephew Dzhokhar, 19-year-old Dzhokhar, to fully cooperate with police and to tell them everything that he knows.
BERMAN: We want to update you now on a story we brought you yesterday. Tatyana McFadden, the elite wheel racer who won Monday's Boston marathon has been declared the winner of the London marathon for the wheelchair division. She set a new record on that course.
BERMAN: One British publication reported her unofficial time as one hour and 46 seconds. That's fast. We're going to have a live report from London later on this morning.
SAMBOLIN: I can't wait to hear from her. She thought it was going to be a very close race. So, I'm dying to find out.
BERMAN: She wins.
SAMBOLIN: Yes, good for her.
All right. Deciding how to charge the 19-year-old suspect. He was not read his Miranda rights. So, will he be charged under military or civilian law? We'll have more, ahead.
BERMAN: So good, so good, so good. I defy you to get that song out of your head for the rest of your day. That's Neil Diamond singing "Sweet Caroline," showing some love for Boston at the Red Sox came in Fenway Park yesterday. This in the wake of the marathon bombings. As they like to say ion Boston, that was wicked awesome.
SAMBOLIN: Special moment.
So, we have learned this morning that the Boston bombing suspect will be appointed a federal public defender once charges are filed.
BERMAN: And those charges could be filed soon, even though he remains in the hospital unable to talk this morning.
We're joined this morning by CNN legal analyst and former New York prosecutor Paul Callan.
And, Paul, you know, how does this affect the situation? If it he can't speak, is that likely to delay the process?
PAUL CALLAN, CNN LEGAL ANALYST: It probably will delay the process, but the issue is not so much whether he can speak or not. I mean, his throat may -- he may have throat problems as of what went down in the apprehension. The real question is, does he understand what's going on around him?
The law says he has to be competent and that means e he has to understand the charges against him and assist in his defense.
Now, obviously, there are people who are born without the ability to speak and they can still be charged with crimes. So the real issue is, what can he understand, what can he perceive? And that's a medical question.
SAMBOLIN: Paul, a Justice Department official told CNN Tsarnaev will face federal terrorism charges and possibly also state murder charges. What other charges do you think we could expect?
CALLAN: Certainly, the federal charges will be the most serious. There will be a number of murder charges. At least four murder charges and depending on what develops. We can expect hundreds of other assault charges. We'll expect a whole list of terrorism counts.
The reason I say the federal charges are the most important is because you can seek the death penalty under federal murder and terrorism statutes. The state of Massachusetts can also charge him with murder and with other counts. However, the death penalty was eliminated in Massachusetts in 1984.
So the chief threat to him comes from the federal government. But both jurisdictions can proceed separately with their own charges.
BERMAN: Paul, we understand that federal public defenders will be representing Tsarnaev. So, what is the first thing they are going to need to do?
CALLAN: Well, this, John, is kind of a big thing, because all weekend, there's been a lot of talk about the fact that law enforcement authorities wanted to interrogate him without giving him his Miranda warnings, without telling him he had a right to a lawyer. Now, once you get a lawyer in the picture, a federal defender, and they are very capable, well-trained lawyers. These federal defenders, they are in federal court all the time. That certainly is going to stop any interrogation, any further inquiry with respect to whether he had other individuals he was working with or how he got the bomb materials.
So the moment a lawyer enters the proceedings, that's going to put a stop on interrogation efforts. And of course, the lawyer will appear with him at arraignment either in the hospital or by video conference or by appearance in federal or state court.
BERMAN: What's the timing on this, Paul? Does this have to happen soon? Especially given the fact we understand that he is sedated right now.
CALLAN: It really depends on his medical condition. The federal statutes are somewhat vague. They say that after an individual has been arrested, he has to be brought before a magistrate within a reasonable and practical time period. So there's no hard date involved.
However, when someone is se day-to-day, unconscious, unable to perceive what's going on, the law is very flexible in this area and immediate arraignment is not required. He's got to be conscious, he has to be aware and have a full understanding of what's going on around him before you'll see any court proceeding where he'll be asked to plead guilty or not guilty or will bail will be set.
So, I'm betting -- well, depending upon his medical condition, John, we'll see this happen, you know, maybe Monday or early next week, if his condition improves to the point where he knows what's going on.
SAMBOLIN: Paul, I'm curious about some reports, especially if I'm his family members, saying that perhaps he was manipulated by his older brother. You see kid after kid coming forward saying that he was just an excellent person and that they would come forward and they would testify on his behalf. How will this dynamic affect this case?
CALLAN: I think we're seeing the early formation of what will be a defense against the death penalty in the case. From what I see, it's going to be hard for him to avoid conviction probably on the bombing charges. Although even there sometimes these cases when you go down the road, they are not as strong as you think they are, because, for instance, how do we know whether it was the older brother or this brother who actually put the bomb materials together or detonated the bomb?
His defense may be I was just there, but I didn't do anything. He's certainly going to use the brainwashing approach to say, I don't deserve the death penalty. I was just following my older brother -- and that's what we call a mitigating circumstance that could cause a jury to go for a lesser sentence.
And we also have to understand this is Massachusetts. It's a jurisdiction that eliminated the death penalty in 1984. It's not like a lot of other states that have a strong death penalty culture. Massachusetts really is a place you don't often see the death penalty. The jurors in this case will be people from Massachusetts, even though it's going to be tried in federal court.
So I think you'll see this brainwashing defense shape up to be the primary approach defense attorneys will take.
SAMBOLIN: All right. Paul Callan, always lots of information -- thank you.
CALLAN: Thank you, Zoraida.
BERMAN: Great talking to you, Paul.
The suspect's father says he's planning oncoming to United States to see his son. We're going to take you to Russia to hear what the father is saying now.
SAMBOLIN: That was a clip from the BBC in London at the marathon pausing for a moment of silence this morning. It was to show their support for the victims of the Boston bombings.
BERMAN: They really stood in solidarity and ran in solidarity with everyone here.
Meanwhile, we are learning more about the suspect from the area where they once lived in Russia. CNN's Nick Paton Walsh traveled to the Russian republic of Dagestan, near Chechnya, and there he caught up with the suspect's father. And he managed to dig up some new information about their past.
NICK PATON WALSH, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): It's hard to link Boston's terror with a street so ordinary, where the alleged bomber's father now lives in. The spotlight to the point he even drives past his own home and let neighbors echo his disbelief of what happened.
"I didn't think that his kids, he says, could have done that. It's not true."
"If someone prays answer, this means he's a terrorist or Wahhabi," he adds. "That's what it's like now. I don't believe any of this."
Anzor Tsarnaev did stop outside his home briefly, though.
(on camera): We don't really have a chance to properly hear what you have to say about the terrible circumstances you're in.
ANZOR TSARNAEV, ACCUSED BOMBERS' FATHER: My kids never did anything -- that's it.
WALSH: Sir, your sons didn't do this?
TSARNAEV: Never, ever.
WALSH: Are you going to America?
TSARNAEV: Yes, I will go.
WALSH: When will you leave?
You will forgive me, sir. I know it's a difficult time for you. I'm simply just trying to do my job here.
WALSH: I understand. When was the last time you spoke to them?
TSARNAEV: Sunday morning. That's it.
WALSH: Have you been in touch with the special services here? What do they have to say to you? OK, I understand, I understand.
(voice-over): Officially (INAUDIBLE) denies the Tsarnaevs schooled here long enough to be called locals. Records show they came from Kyrgyzstan and says the principal then became America's creation.
(on camera): This records sow the four Tsarnaev family members coming in 2001 from Kyrgyzstan and then leaving it says here to America the 25th of March 2002.
(voice-over): "They were with us for five months," he says. "Their formative years were in America. It's their culture. That's where they socially matured."
(on camera): One big question remains, Tamerlan didn't arrive in America until 2006. That leaves the possibility he spent full five formative years in southern Russia.
(voice-over): In a troubled, poor region peppered with radicals, perhaps lies some of the holes in Tamerlan Tsarnaev's story that urgently must be filled if Boston will ever know why.
Nick Paton Walsh, CNN, Makhachkala.
BERMAN: Our thanks to Nick Paton Walsh for that really, really interesting report.
SAMBOLIN: A half a million people are attending the London marathon today and security there is extremely tight.
Plus, a member of the royal family shows up to cheer on the crowds. We're going to tell you who showed up, right after this.
BERMAN: Bottom of the hour now. Welcome back, everyone. I'm John Berman.
SAMBOLIN: And I'm Zoraida Sambolin. Nice to have you with us this morning and starting your morning with us.
BERMAN: Let's get right up to speed on the Boston bombings.
Perhaps the only person who knows the motive for the attack is sedated right now with a tube at his throat. Dzhokhar Tsarnaev under heavy guard this morning at a Boston hospital. Officials say the 19- year-old suspect will face federal terrorism charges, possibly murder charges here in Massachusetts. Meanwhile, at least 57 bombing victims are still in the hospital, two of them in critical condition.
We now also know at least six bombs, six were found at the scene of the shootout early Friday and left the other suspect dead. During that battle, officials say the surviving suspect drove a stolen car toward officers and ended up dragging his own brother down the street.
SAMBOLIN: Brian Todd joins us now with a final recap of moments that brought down Dzhokhar Tsarnaev.
(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE) BRIAN TODD, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): As he was cornered, Dzhokhar Tsarnaev, police say, engaged them with gunfire. It went on for several minutes and police lobbed in flash-bangs precaution to stun him. In the end, authorities showed their determination to capture the suspect alive.
Listen to officers negotiating with him as he's holed up inside a boat in a backyard in Watertown.
POLICE OFFICER: Come out on your own terms. Come out with your hands up.
TODD: We sneaked through allies and back lots to get to within a couple hundred yards of the boat. During negotiations, there was a word of reassurance.
POLICE OFFICER: You will not be harmed.
TODD: And an appeal to someone they knew was in pain.
POLICE OFFICER: We know you're bleeding. We know you're tired.
TODD: As we shot this exclusive video, police rushed us, saying we were in the cross fire zone.
POLICE OFFICER: Clear out, OK?
TODD: I was just minutes later that police captured Tsarnaev. He had lost blood, was weakened.
These pictures from the Massachusetts state police show thermal imaging from a helicopter of the suspect as he hid in the boat. The entire neighborhood had been on lockdown. Residents terrified as law enforcement went door to door.
After the standoff we spoke to neighbors.
(on camera): Here on Cyprus Street, this is one of the houses where police were combing through the neighborhood looking for the suspect. This is Eddie Beck's house. He took us through what it was like when SWAT teams went through.
EDDIE BECK, WATERTOWN, MASSACHUSETTS RESIDENT: They came in and searched the living room area, dining room, went there through all the bedrooms, bathrooms, kitchen area.
TODD: Did they search cabinets and things like that?
BECK: No, they didn't go through cabinet, but they went through all the bedroom closet doors and made their way through the back here.
TODD (voice-over): Beck shared his own footage of the SWAT teams combing through his house. During these moments they didn't know where Tsarnaev was or whether he was carrying explosives on his body.
Beck got a chill just thinking about it. BECK: Knowing they had him surrounded and so close to our neighborhood, it made us think he might have been here at nighttime and they kind of flushed him out into that area.
TODD: Vivyan Stevens also lives very close to the house where Tsarnaev was cornered.
(on camera): How do you feel right now that it's over?
VIVYAN STEVENS, WATERTOWN, MASSACHUSETTS RESIDENT: Yes, it's surreal. I think I'm numb. I don't really feel -- I guess I can't believe all this happened. I know it's happening, but I'm very happy that it's over and they got him.
TODD: A sentiment echoed by thousands of her neighbors in Watertown, cheering police as they pulled out after the arrest.
Brian Todd, CNN, Watertown, Massachusetts.
BERMAN: That was at Fenway Park yesterday and people were still cheering police whenever they bump bumped into them.
SAMBOLIN: And, well, they should. That was an incredible effort. An incredible effort.
BERMAN: So, London's marathon is happening this morning. More than 35,000 people will pass some of the world's most famous landmarks.
SAMBOLIN: Runners observed a moment of silence this morning to honor the victims of the Boston bombing and they were black ribbons in their honor as well. Here's a clip of that from the BBC.
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BERMAN: Our senior international correspondent Matthew Chance is live near the Tower Bridge in London this morning.
Matthew, let's talk about all the extra security. What's being done to ensure the safety of the hundreds of thousands of people out today?
MATTHEW CHANCE, CNN SENIOR INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Well, quite a lot, according to the Metropolitan Police, which is the police force in London. They say they have stepped up the number of uniformed patrol officers by 40 percent compared to last year.
But I have to say, you're not seeing a lot of police in uniform along the streets here in central London with the tens of thousands of runners running through the track right here, and the hundreds of thousands of spectators that have come out to show their support.
But the police also say they haven't received any information about increased threats as a result of the Boston attacks. They are just trying to be out there to give people a visual kind of reassurance, you know, the security issue -- also to be extra vigilant as well.
You can hear, it's a very festive mood that's taken a grip here along the London marathon route. It's a joyous occasion. It was that moment of silence that you just heard earlier at the start of the race before it began. In general you can hear the crowds are cheering. They are giving their support as much as they can to the runners as they go past.
Of course, it's not just Londoners here as well. People all around the world. We met Ron Taylor. He's actually from Atlanta. He's come all the way from Atlanta to be on CNN.
Ron, you're here in London watching the marathon. All this cheering, all this festive sort of atmosphere, do you think that's appropriate given what happened in Boston?
RON TAYLOR, AMERICAN TOURIST: I don't think so. I think people would agree you can't give in. You know, this was already scheduled. It has to go on.
CHANCE: You think it is appropriate?
TAYLOR: Yes, I think it is appropriate to be cheering these guys on. This is all being done for charity. So, it needs to go on.
CHANCE: What about the security situation? I mentioned the police have said they updated patrols. Do you feel safe?
TAYLOR: Perfectly safe. Perfectly safe. We have seen police here. I'm sure there are police we don't see. There are cameras everywhere. Perfectly safe.
CHANCE: Did you at any point consider not coming to the London marathon given what happened in Boston?
TAYLOR: Absolutely not. Absolutely not. I thought we would be perfectly safe. I'm here with my wife and another couple, a good friends of ours, and we didn't give it a second thought.
CHANCE: All right. Ron Taylor, thanks so much for joining us here on CNN.
John and Zoraida, a lot of people have turned out. A lot of people from the U.S. as well to watch what the organizers hope will be a very respectable and joyous London marathon.
SAMBOLIN: Matthew, I have to tell you, it's great to hear the normalcy of the cheering that is happening over there. I know that some money is being raised to help the victims here of Boston. Can you tell us a little bit about that?
CHANCE: Yes, the organizers of the London marathon were clear about that. They were saying for every runner that crosses the finish line after that 26.2-mile event, they'll give two pounds, which is about $3 to give money to help out those most affected by the bomb attacks.
They are also expecting to receive a lot of private donations as well. I mean, this is first and foremost a charity-raising event. People come here. They get sponsorship. They do this run. They give the money to the charity of their choice.
A lot of private individuals are giving their money to that Boston charity. To help the victims of those bomb attacks, Zoraida.
BERMAN: Matthew, we have to ask since it's London, what about the royals? Will there be a royal presence at the race today?
CHANCE: Well, you know, there already has been. They're not, of course, actually running in the marathon, but already Prince Harry has visited the finish line. He did that before the race finished to show his support for the stewards organizing the race and to show his support to a certain extent to the people of Boston.
Prince Harry representing the royal family to show they are watching this very closely. And, of course, everybody in Britain is watching the marathon and watching them.
BERMAN: All right. Matthew Chance in London, thank you so much. We hear the cheering behind you, the cheering on the race.
I'd like to think they are also cheering on Matthew and his terrific report for the marathon.
SAMBOLIN: Sure they are.
BERMAN: Our thanks to him.
To the people of Boston trying to get back to their regular routines, which, of course, includes the Boston Red Sox. Stay here for must-see highlights from an emotional day at Fenway Park just ahead.
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SAMBOLIN: Is this your new favorite song or what? Nothing like a little Neil Diamond at Fenway. Diamond actually took a red eye flight from Los Angeles to get to yesterday's Red Sox game.
He landed. He went straight from the airport to the park and made it there just in time to sing "Sweet Caroline", the song that has become a type of theme song for the Sox.
BERMAN: A song that's been stuck in my head for 24 hours. It won't get out for the next week. But that's OK because it's a good one. OK, if that wasn't enough to get the proud Boston fans going, there was a ball game too, a phenomenal game.
It was the first game played here since Monday's bombings. It was the first time the green monster was open and it really signified things were getting back to normal.
CNN Sports' Andy Scholes joins us now with more on this awesome day.
ANDY SCHOLES, CNN SPORTS: Yes, good morning, guys.
There's no better way for the city of Boston to return to a sense of normalcy than a good old, packed house at Fenway Park and that's what we saw yesterday.
More than 35,000 strong were on hand to cheer on the Red Sox in their first game back since the bombings. During an emotional pregame ceremony, the Red Sox honored all of those affected by Monday's tragedy and the law enforcement who helped capture the two suspects.
At the end of the ceremony, David Ortiz took the mike to thank everyone and used strong words to deliver this message.
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DAVID ORTIZ, BOSTON RED SOX: This is our (EXPLETIVE DELETED) city. And nobody going to dictate our freedom. Stay strong, thank you.
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SCHOLES: His uniform, and that's because normal white jerseys with Red Sox on the front, the team wore special uniforms with Boston across their chest. But they didn't give much to cheer about until the bottom of the eighth, trailing 2-1. Daniel Nava comes to the plate and he blasts a three-run shot into the bullpen. The crowd would go nuts.
The Red Sox take the lead and hold on to get the win 4-3.
Meanwhile, over at Garden, the Bruins were back on the ice yesterday afternoon playing their game with the penguins that had been postponed on Friday during warm-up. The Bruins wore state police, Boston P.D. and Watertown P.D. hats and for the game both teams wore special patches on their jerseys and those jerseys will be auctioned off tomorrow on NHL.com with proceeds going to the one fund, which benefits those affected by Monday's marathon bombings.
The Celtics also wore special patches and warm-up shirts for yesterday's playoff opener in New York against the Knicks. The Celtics, they led the game after three quarters, but would only score eight points in the fourth as they fell 85-78 to the Knicks. Game two is Tuesday night before it shifts back to Boston for game three on Friday.
And, guys, Fenway is going to be rocking again today as the red sox play a double header to make up for Friday's game. And I'm sure, John, like most people in Boston, you're pretty pleased with the team, definitely picked a good time to go on a run. BERMAN: I just assume they won't lose for the rest of the season. That's my hope. Andy, thanks so much.
I do have to tell you. You heard David Ortiz what he said and those people done like to use out loud. The FCC, which normally regulates naughty language on TV, the chairman of the FCC tweeted this. David Ortiz spoke from the heart at today's Red Sox game. I stand with big poppy and the people of Boston. So the FCC says just this once, it's OK.
SAMABOLI: They are going to be OK with that.
Andy Scholes, thank you so much.
Dzhokhar Tsarnaev is sedated in a Boston hospital. And when he wakes up, investigators will have scores of questions for the only surviving suspect.
Up next, a former interrogator will explain how to hunt for answers.
BERMAN: Stay with us.
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SAMBOLIN: Welcome back.
The celebration and sigh of relief when authorities capture one of the Boston bombing suspects alive.
BERMAN: The hope, of course, is that Dzhokhar Tsarnaev can answer the questions weighing on so many minds since Monday's attack, and that question is, why?
SAMBOLIN: And we're joined now from New York by Evyenia Poumpouras. She's a former Secret Service and also a veteran polygraph examiner.
Evyenia, what is the key information that we want to learn from this particular suspect?
EVYENIA POUMPOURAS, FORMER SECRET SERVICE AGENT: Well, we want to learn why, right? We want to understand the motive. Why did they do this? And how did they do this?
Were they aided by others? Is there something that they truly concoct with the themselves? Where did they get this information? And is there any type of influence from outside the United States?
BREMAN: So how do you get this suspect to talk? How do you get him to give up that information, particularly when he's suffering this medical condition he's in right now?
I mean, right now, he's intubated. But assuming the intubation tube comes out, he won't be in the top condition, how are you going to get this information from him?
POUMPOURAS: Well, the key thing is what you mentioned before is he's sedated. To speak to him truly, to get the get the proper information, we have to make sure he's in a clear state of mind. That he is clear and think and he can answer the questions.
Now, although he may not be able to vocalize his answers, there's ways to get the information through writings, through drawings, through typings, through anything like that. But the key thing is we need to get him out of his sedated state, conscious so he can speak to law enforcement clearly.
SAMBOLIN: So let's say he's not interested in talking. In your experience, how are some ways in which you would get him to answer your questions?
POUMPOURAS: So the key thing is you need a strong interviewer or interrogator. Most people in this situation it's very difficult because everyone's had such a strong bias and personal sentiment to what happened. Nobody can understand that.
But if you are a true interrogator and you are a true professional, you go in objectively. You leave your biases at the door, check your emotions there and you are there truly to elicit information out of this individual. And you do that by establishing rapport, by establishing trust and getting this individual somehow to trust in you to give you the information, to share with you what happened, their journey and how they got there. That is the key thing.
BERMAN: We now know that the suspect has not been given his Miranda warnings. And there's a lot of discussion about the legal avenues that might be taken. But, Evyenia, as an interrogator, as the person actually asking the questions, how much are you -- how much do you care about the legal discussions going on? And does that effect how you go about your job?
POUMPOURAS: Yes, the legal aspect is very, very important. That comes from levels above you. So if the law does allow you to not ask those Miranda rights, you can proceed. But you cannot make up the rules as you go.
If you do not follow the law, if you do deviate from it, the things you do could cost the case ultimately. Any confession you could get could be thrown out or dismissed or anything like that. So, you want to make sure that you do follow the law, even though you may feel otherwise, we have to be careful.
BERMAN: All right. Evyenia Poumpouras, an experienced interrogator, thank you so much for joining us. Appreciate it.
POUMPOURAS: Thank you.
SAMBOLIN: And we have some good news for -- we have some good news for all that flooding out West. We'll tell you what it is, your weather forecast, coming up. (COMMERCIAL BREAK)
BERMAN: We are live in Boston bringing you the latest on the capture of the marathon bombing suspect.
We wanted to update you on the other top stories we are following this morning.
Residents in the town of West, Texas, now beginning to pick up the pieces, returning home for the first time since the massive fertilizer plant explosion leveled parts of their small town. Wednesday's blast destroyed buildings and it took the lives of 14 people, another 200 people were injured.
In China rescue workers are searching for 24 people still mussing after Saturday's devastating earthquake. The death toll there now stands at 180 people. More than 11,000 are injured.
The U.S. Geological Survey puts the earthquake's magnitude at 6.6. It was so strong that it sheared off huge chunks of mountains in the region, making rescue work quite difficult.
SAMBOLIN: And in Colorado, an avalanche killed five snowboarders in white river national forest over the weekend. According to the Colorado Avalanche Information Center, avalanches have killed 24 people this season alone.
And flood waters are now receding in parts of Illinois, but what a mess it's been there. Entire subdivisions are still under water, and in the hard-hit suburbs of Forest View and Des Plaines. The Des Plaines River, when it runs over, it is a mess.
Many people were trapped in their homes and had to be rescued Friday. Some residents say they have never seen anything like it.
So, let's check in with meteorologist Alexandra Steele.
Good morning to you, Alexandra.
ALEXANDRA STEELE, AMS METEOROLOGIST: Good morning to you guys.
You know, what we're going to see is a cresting and a cascading of the crests of the water. So, we saw crests through Illinois and Indiana, and we're going to watch those crests go from north to south as the water runs downstream.
Still, floodwater, what we're seeing there, meaning, anywhere you see in green, we're seeing flooding right now or it is imminent. So we are expecting that.
Unfortunately we have more rain and even snow on the way.
Here's the radar: Minneapolis could pick up half an inch of snow today. And as we move this radar forward, unfortunately, more rain coming for Tuesday. So here's tonight. Watch the snow from Billings down through the central Rockies. And then as we head toward Monday, there's snow, Denver, Colorado, another two to four inches of snow coming your way Monday into Tuesday.
And then there's that rain. Another line of it unfortunately for Illinois River, Mississippi River, Wabash, which had record cresting yesterday as well.
A big picture today in the northeast, Boston, clear, cool windy. New York, little warmer, in the 50s. Also, though, here in the Southeast, temperatures warming up to warmer than they've been. And there's that snow keeping an eye.
So, certainly not done with snow yet, that's for sure, out in the Upper Plains and Midwest.
Back to you guys.
SAMBOLIN: Oh, my goodness. No.
BERMAN: Alexandra Steele, thank you so much.
And thanks to all of you for starting your morning with us.
SAMBOLIN: And we've got much more ahead on CNN SUNDAY MORNING which starts right now.
BERMAN: Good morning everyone. I'm John Berman.
SAMBOLIN: And I'm Zoraida. This is a special edition of CNN SUNDAY MORNING live from Boston.
BERMAN: Let's get right to the latest information on the marathon bombings. Perhaps the only person who knows the motive for this attack is sedated with the tube running down his throat this morning.