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Suspected Bomber's Burial Still Unclear; Israel Confirms Syria Airstrike; California Threatens 4,000 Homes
Aired May 4, 2013 - 07:00 ET
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Send him back to Russia.
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RANDI KAYE, CNN ANCHOR: Buried near Boston. That is the latest word on where the family of bombing suspect Tamerlan Tsarnaev wants his body to be, and it's causing an uproar in the recovering city.
Plus, fires in southern California scorched 28,000 acres and are now threatening 4,000 homes as firefighters race to control the flames.
And shooting rifles at the tender age of four. That's how one of our guests this hour learned about guns. We will talk to him about when he got his first rifle and why his mother says there is nothing wrong with marketing guns to young kids.
Good morning. I'm Randi Kaye live from Boston this morning.
We are so glad you're with us this morning for CNN SATURDAY MORNING.
We begin with the Boston bombing.
The death certificate confirms the violent final moments of Tamerlan Tsarnaev's death, the owner of the funeral home read the document to CNN, and says it shows Tamerlan Tsarnaev died from, quote, "gunshots on torso and extremities and blunt trauma to head and torso."
As we know what led to his death, it is so not clear what will happen to him now. His body sits in a Worcester funeral parlor as people protest his family's wish to bury the 26-year-old father in the Boston area.
In the meantime, investigators, explosive residue inside the Cambridge, Massachusetts the apartment of Tsarnaev where he lived with his wife and young daughter.
CNN national correspondent Susan Candiotti is joining me now.
So, Susan, they found this explosive residue in the apartment. Where was it and how much was there?
SUSAN CANDIOTTI, CNN NATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: They found it in three spots, Randi, according to our sources -- kitchen sink, kitchen table and in the bathtub. Now, keep in mind, these bombs are believed to have been built right in the apartment, right where Tamerlan lived with his wife and young child, apparently constructed by Tamerlan and his younger brother. This, according to our sources is what the suspect has been telling them.
Of course, they wanted to look for physical evidence and apparently they have found some of that, but there is still so much work to be done in this investigation. For example, how did they get the training to build these bombs? Was it here in the United States? Was it strictly online? Or did Tamerlan, for example, when he travelled to Russia, learn from militants over there.
KAYE: Yes. So many questions about what the wife knew or didn't know as well.
What about his burial? Do we know when that will happen?
CANDIOTTI: No, we don't have details about that yet, only that the body has now been moved to a funeral home in Worcester. And as you indicated, there are a lot of people there who don't like the idea of him being buried anywhere in the Boston area as opposed to back in his native Russia. Listen.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Send him back to Russia.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: It's too sad for words. It's too sad. He shouldn't be here. He should never have come. If he never had come, it would have been -- none of this would have happened. He had every advantage he could have here. He shouldn't be buried here.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I don't care where he is buried. To me, he is dead already. How much more can you punish him? To me, it's too petty.
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CANDIOTTI: And, again, so much more to be done with the investigation, poring to the laptops, have been recovered. Also, questioning the widow here. She is said to be cooperating. She said through her lawyer that she had no prior knowledge, but, of course, no one is taking her word for it. They have to ask her questions, showing her photographs, and there's a lot more work to be done.
KAYE: Yes, certainly so.
Susan Candiotti, We'll check with you later on this morning. Thank you.
Families of those killed in the bombings could get more than $1 million apiece from a charity fund set up after the attack. Survivors who lost more than one limb also could get more than $1 million and 12 other amputees could each get close to that much, and that's according to "The Boston Globe." Attorney Ken Feinberg is managing the One Fund Boston. He has vowed to issue checks by the end of June. The fund has raised more than $28 million. And new this morning, Israel now confirming that it conducted an airstrike Friday in Syria. An Israeli official tells "Reuters" the strike targeted a shipment of missiles bound for Hezbollah in Lebanon. The attack was authorized in a secret meeting of Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's security cabinet. Israeli officials long have vowed to strike targets they think are being used to transfer weapons to Hezbollah or other groups.
And Israeli defense official told CNN, quote, "We will do whatever is necessary to stop the transfer of weapons from Syria to terrorist organizations."
The Pentagon this week stepped up planning for potential military intervention if there's proof the regime has used chemical weapons.
But President Obama on Friday said he doesn't see it happening.
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BARACK OBAMA, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: As a general rule, I don't rule things out as commander in chief because circumstances change and you want to make sure that I always have the full power of the United States at our disposal to meet American national security interests. Having said that I do not foresee a scenario in which boots on the ground in Syria, American boots on the ground in Syria, would not only be good for America but it would also be good for Syria.
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KAYE: Now to Los Angeles where firefighters are battling a ferocious wildfire that is putting thousands of homes in jeopardy. In less than two days 28,000 acres have burned to ashes in the Ventura area. The so-called Springs Fire is only about 20 percent contained. And 4,000 homes remain under threat.
CNN's Kyung Lah is following the situation for us. She's in Ventura County -- Kyung.
KYUNG LAH, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Randi, I am standing at the northern plank of the fire where firefighters have gotten the upper hand at least on this hillside, but they are still a long way before this is considered under control.
(voice-over): An uphill battle. Scorching heat. Swirling winds. Devouring brush shriveled by drought and anything else in its path.
Another terrifying day for homeowners, watching fire up canyons and perilously close to houses. The out-of-control blaze has marched closer and closer to Pamela Campbell. She's lived through this many times in her 26 years here.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: More trash barrels filled with water.
LAH: Defending her home from wildfire with garden hoses and mops, and she will do it again with this one if she has to.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: And you hit the hotspot. And you are not throwing buckets down and wasting your auxiliary water.
LAH: Ventura County fire captain says crews were ready but stunned by the veracity of this early blaze.
(on camera): Captain, we should be having this conversation in October and why are we having it in May?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I wish I could tell you. California is known to have droughts. My understanding is that not exact on this number, but we only received one quarter of the snowfall that we normally get. So it's a huge concern this year.
You are absolutely right, this should not happen for another five months. We are hoping this is not a forbearance of what is to come.
LAH (voice-over): The weather, say NASA climatologist, is simply upside-down, from California to May snow in the Midwest.
(on camera): How would you characterize the weather nationally?
BILL PATZERT, CLIMATOLOGIST: Well, nationally, this is a very schizophrenic winter and spring. In the Northeast, it's the under- ending winter. It's still snowing and it's flooding.
Whereas, in the Southwest, we have not had decent rainfall since January 1st.
LAH: Does that alarm you looking at this schizophrenic weather pattern?
PATZERT: We have seen conditions like this in the past, but what is different over here in the West, is over the last 50 years the population of the American southwest has quadrupled. And so, there are more and more housing developments. There are more and more communities in harm's way.
LAH: Are you exhausted thinking about your summer?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes, I think we are all going to be.
And here is a little more perspective. This is according to climatologist, one of the driest years for the Southwest in a century -- Randi.
KAYE: Kyung Lah, thank you very much.
So will firefighters catch a break from the weather anytime soon?
Let's find out more from CNN meteorologist, Alexandra Steele. She's at the CNN Center this morning.
Alexandra, good morning. So, any rain heading to southern California?
ALEXANDRA STEELE, AMS METEOROLOGIST: You know, improving conditions dramatically. Kind of a really 180-degree move with this. So, we've got some good news, but there's always about little caveat with some bad news. And let me kind of delineate it for you.
The good news is this very hot, dry, strong offshore winds that we have seen, temperatures yesterday 93 degrees. They should be in the 60s and 70s. So that's all coming down. The increase in humidity, because we have seen the wind shift, it did so last night, to a cooler and humid, onshore wind bringing in the moisture from the water which is really what we need.
We are expecting some rain showers, light in nature, but the timeline and the chance for them is really Sunday through Tuesday. Sunday less so, kind of the odds go up, and I'll show when the greatest chances which day. But the bad news is, "A," the rain will be light in nature, but "B," we could see some thundershowers with that light rain and then we could see some dry lightning. So, you certainly don't want lightning into this incredibly dry tender, which could spark another fire.
And also, within the thunderstorms and thundershowers, we could have spiraling and shifting winds and the shifting winds has been one of the most difficult things about the fire. This is a fire and this type of blaze, that they don't actually see there until October, really, August, September, October, so much later in the summer. But it's been so incredibly hot and they are in a two-year drought.
So, here is the deal forecast wise. Today, out of the 90s, and certainly good news, 70s today and 60s tomorrow. Only a very slight chance for rain today, and even tomorrow there's a 30 percent chance rain, better than what we've seen, but the wind has shifted, there is more humidity.
And here is the future radar. So, here's kind of the bull's eye of it. Monday morning, you can see some rain coming in right where we need it. Some just light scattered rain showers will be the scenario on Monday and then into Tuesday, Randi.
So, certainly, on the whole, as an aggregate, much improved conditions, no question about it.
KAYE: All right. That is good news. Alexandra Steele, thank you.
And now to Wall Street this morning where a strong April jobs number sent markets soaring on Friday. The S&P 500 touched the 1,600 level for the first time ever, and that's good news for your 401(k).
For a little, perspective, if you vested $10,000 at the market low back in 2009 that money would be worth nearly $24,000 today.
Also highlighted in the reports, strong growth in the restaurant and food service industry with 38,000 jobs added last month. In Houston, Texas, the NRA is hosting their annual meeting. It is their first since the Newtown shooting massacre, and the first since President Obama's push for tougher gun laws. An estimated 70,000 members are attending gun shows, seminars and rallies. And this year's theme is stand and fight.
Sarah Palin and NRA executives kicked things off by criticizing the Obama administration they say for exploiting victims of gun violence. Other well known speakers for this weekend include radio personality Glenn Beck and rocker, Ted Nugent.
And now to some live pictures from Churchill Downs, home of today's Kentucky Derby. In the wake of the Boston bombing, security is extra tight, as you can imagine at today's race, so tight that some people are actually surprised about what they are not allowed to bring in. That's next.
KAYE: Welcome back. Today is the Kentucky Derby, an iconic American tradition that draws big crowds and lots of media coverage, not unlike the Boston marathon. So, it may not come as a surprise that security is extra tight in Louisville today, but not everyone is concerned about a terrorists attack.
Look at this CNN/TIME/ORC poll. One out of four people said they are less likely to attend a public event due to terrorism, and that's a slight rise from before. CNN's Pamela Brown joins us from Churchill Downs.
Pam, good morning.
When you talk to people, I'm just curious, does it seem like they are concerned about terrorism or not?
PAM BROWN, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Yes, Randi, it's clear that in talking to people here yesterday that what happened in Boston a few weeks ago is certainly top of mind. But for the most part people were excited to be here. In fact, it was the second largest crowd ever at the Kentucky Oaks race.
So, while people did have concern about something happening, that fear did not hold them back.
BROWN (voice-over): Kentucky Derby weekend is usually about the big hats and mint juleps and, of course, the horse races.
But nearly three weeks after this sporting event ended in tragedy, folks here are thinking about more than just waging their bets.
(on camera): Is what happened in Boston on your mind today?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Yes, it definitely was on my mind for the fact that it's such a large crowd and you never know what peoples' intentions are.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Absolutely, me and my buddy we were coming -- we're coming up from Chicago and we were both talking today about how are you scared at all about it, and it was on the forefront of his mind and my mind coming in today.
BROWN (voice-over): Security has been tight at the derby since 9/11. But now, officials are cracking even more.
KEVIN FLANERY, PRESIDENT, CHURCHILL DOWNS: The first thing you do after an event like that is you just get everybody back together and you says what's plan? Do we need make any adjustments?
BROWN: Among those adjustments, a ban on coolers, cans, and large purses, which came as a surprise to some. One hundred additional officers from federal, state and local agencies were brought in to conduct more thorough searches on the estimated 150,000 spectators pouring in Churchill Downs. Most racing fans are taking the increased safety measures in stride.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I was happy to hear they increased security. It means, you know, less makeup and goodies that we can bring in, but it's worth it to be more comfortable and to know that we're going to all look after each other today.
BROWN: The one change had some women racing to the store.
UNIDENTIFIEDF FEMALE: We had to shop for different sized purses here.
BROWN (on camera): I heard department stores had a ruler on the counter.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Every store you went in, there was a ruler.
KAYE: So, Pam, you're a Kentucky native. I mean, you grew up going to the derby, have you noticed a big change?
BROWN: Big change, Randi, but I have seen some adjustments made as far as security goes. After 9/11, you could definitely tell security was tightened here. It used to be before that, you could just walk around wherever you wanted to go for the most part here at Churchill Downs. And then after 9/11, you had to have a certain colored ticket to go into each section.
Now, what I'm saying is definitely a larger presence of authorities, especially at various entrances here at Churchill Downs. And especially at the entrances right to the infield where there is a tunnel.
So, I'm seeing more local, a state, federal officials here at Churchill Downs. And also, Randi, I have to say, this whole purse-size limit sparked a lot of discussion here.
You know, growing up, going to the derby, women plan their outfits months in advance, so that has been -- it threw some people for a loop. But I have to say, it did, from what I could tell it cut down on the lines at these entrances, because authorities were not spending as much time having to go through big bags.
KAYE: All right. Pam Brown for us -- thanks for the update.
So, we all hate airport delays, right? I do. Well, then, you may want to head to the great Northwest, because believe it or not, there is an airport there where you don't have to wait hardly ever. I'll tell you where.
Plus, I will show you what it's like to use Google glasses, touted as the wave of the future, but don't count on them helping you find a good restaurant.
KAYE: Welcome back. Twenty-four minutes past the hour now.
Do you absolutely need that flight to take off on time? Then you want to pay attention of the list of best airports from the Department of Transportation.
For on time departures, Minneapolis, St. Paul International Airport comes in at number three. Number two, Portland International Airport. And, number one, Salt Lake City International Airport. SLC has 89 percent of its flights leaving when they should. That is incredible.
All right. Now, to wearable technology. Glasses have come a long way. You will soon be able to record video and take pictures and ask your glasses questions.
I'm talking about the Google glasses. It's not for sell yet, but our Maggie Lake found a pair and took a tour of New York.
MAGGIE LAKE, CNN CORRESPONDENT: We got a pair of the Google Glass. We got some instructions. We're ready to take a test drive.
OK, Glass, directions to Times Square.
The glasses are actually very comfortable. You get used to them quickly. There's a little screen that you can look which is showing you a map of how to get to Times Square. So whether you're in a cab or whether you're walking, you just follow what's on the screen.
LAKE (voice-over): The glasses work with any Bluetooth enabled phone, through the best fit is with an Android phone running Google's My Glass Companion app.
LAKE (on camera): So here we are in Times Square. So the easiest features to use right off the bat on Google Glass are taking pictures and recording video. And what a better canvas. Now the camera's turned on the cameraman. You can get some of the features of Google now with the glasses, but there are no third party apps yet, and that's where the real potential is. I would love, if I had an app that told me where the nearest Mexican restaurant was to Times Square, or something where I could compare prices for a shop that I was going to go into. And that is not far off.
So no restaurant app. I guess I'm going to have to rough it. Hey there, can I have a pretzel?
LAKE (voice-over): Some busy New Yorkers never noticed what I was wearing, but those who stopped us were very enthusiastic.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Are those the Google glasses?
LAKE (on camera): It is the Google glasses.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Oh, my gosh.
LAKE: What do you think? Do I look like "Star Trek."
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: (INAUDIBLE).
LAKE: Google Glass, how do you say hello in French?
Taxi. We're at the top of the rock. A beautiful day. Now, you might want to have a bodyguard when you have these. They're about $1,600 a pop. But remember, they're just a prototype. They're actually very comfortable and fairly easy to use some of the simpler functions.
I have to say though, the setup is a little bit difficult and sort of working some of the connectivity issues. That's definitely something they're going to have to iron out.
OK, Glass, take a picture. Take a look at that view. This definitely feels exciting. I feel like I'm looking at the future, but there is a learning curve no doubt about it.
Oh, wait. Oh. This is -- is it still recording? Did I turn it off?
LAKE (voice-over): Maggie Lake, CNN, New York.
KAYE: That looks like fun.
Guns as gifts for kids. Another accidental shooting is raising the debate over the family tradition. But our next guest got his first gun at age 4, and we'll hear from him and his mother.
KAYE: Mortgage rates dipping again this week, nearing a record low. Have a look here.
KAYE: The bottom of the hour now, welcome back, everyone. I am Randi Kaye, live in Boston this morning. More on the investigation into the Boston bombings in a moment, but first, I want to send it over to my colleague, Victor Blackwell at CNN Headquarters in Atlanta for the day's other stories -- Victor. BLACKWELL: Randi, thank you.
Let's start with five stories we're watching this morning.
First up, northwest of Los Angeles, that raging wildfire has nearly tripled in size in less than two days. It is threatening thousands of homes.
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BLACKWELL (voice-over): Look at this. This is in the Ventura County area. Some families are staying to protect their homes. You see a lot of families, they're just getting out of the way. This is the Springs Fire. It's already burned 28,000 acres, but firefighters could get a break because the gusty winds are expected to die down today, and there could be some light rain tomorrow.
Number two, Israel confirms that it conducted an airstrike Friday in Syria. An Israeli official tells Reuters the strike started -- or, rather, targeted a shipment of missiles bound for Hezbollah in Lebanon. Now the attack was authorized in a secret security cabinet meeting. Israeli officials long have vowed to strike targets they think are being used to transfer weapons to terrorist groups.
Number three now, President Obama is wrapping up a three-day trip to Mexico and Costa Rica. Speaking in San Juan, he pledged continued support for regional security, especially against drug-related violence. He described security as key to economic development and he called on Central American leaders to deal with poverty head-on.
For now, after 17 weeks of graphic testimony, the expert witnesses, a jury will decide what is next for Jodi Arias. The judge instructed the group to consider charges of first- and second-degree murder or manslaughter. Arias is accused of killing her ex-boyfriend, Travis Alexander.
And number five, the NRA is hosting its big annual meeting this weekend in Texas. It's their first since President Obama started pushing for tougher gun laws after shooting massacres like the one in Newtown.
More than 70,000 members are expected to attend the gun shows and the seminars and the rallies. Sarah Palin, former governor of Alaska, and NRA executives kicked things off by criticizing the Obama administration for, quote, "exploiting victims of gun violence." Listen.
SARAH PALIN, FORMER GOVERNOR OF ALASKA: We have these tragedies like Aurora, and immediately the question raised in Washington is, well, what can we do to limit the freedom of the people? But it's the wrong question. The question better asked is what can we do to nurture and support a people capable of living in freedom?
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BLACKWELL: Other well-known names on the schedule are radio personality Glenn Beck and rocker Ted Nugent. Let's go to Houston, where CNN's Athena Jones is there live now.
Athena, what is going on there today?
ATHENA JONES, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Hi, Victor. Good morning. Well, today is going to be about the nitty-gritty, giving NRA members their marching orders to be able to fight in some cases steep efforts to try to implement some measures of gun control, in addition to the nationwide ones.
I can tell you that I have one word for you -- or I guess three words, in some ways, about what was going on in the first full day of the NRA convention yesterday, and that's politics, politics, politics.
Many of the speeches had a political rally feel to them. We heard a lot of celebration of the fact that that effort to expand background checks for gun buyers failed in the Senate a of couple weeks ago, that's seen, of course, as a big victory for the NRA.
We heard from some political superstars in the Republican Party; you just heard from Sarah Palin. But we also heard from the Senator Ted Cruz, Texas senator; Texas Governor Rick Perry and Louisiana Governor Bobby Jindal.
But in addition to those Republican Party superstars, we heard from one of the NRA's superstars, Wayne LaPierre, he is the executive vice president. And he is, in many ways, one of the big faces of the NRA. Let's listen to what he had to say.
WAYNE LAPIERRE, PRESIDENT, NRA: We know that every word spoken today and throughout this weekend is going to be scrutinized by our opponents.
But let me make this perfectly clear: we will never back away from our resolve to defend our rights and the rights of all law-abiding American gun owners.
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JONES: And so that's what we will hear more of today. We will hear again from Wayne LaPierre and other executive members of the board of the NRA. One NRA spokesman described this as a corporate report to shareholders from the NRA executives. They will tell their members where gun rights stand in America, what needs to be done, what they want these members to do.
And so again, today, I think the keyword here will be politics, Victor.
BLACKWELL: All right. Athena Jones in Houston for us this morning, thank you. Now to kids and guns and the tragedy this week in Kentucky. Did you hear about this, when the 5-year-old boy who accidentally shot and killed his 2-year-old sister with a .22 caliber rifle he got for his birthday. He's 5 years old. It was purchased by this site, crickett.com. It's a company that markets guns to children. The site actually is currently down, apparently for maintenance. It's a new angle of the national gun debate. And some people are asking if children should be exposed to guns at an early age. And this is the conversation I want to have with 17-year-old Tyler Lerieo (ph) and his mother, Trish. They are joining us from Tallahassee.
First, Trish and Tyler, thanks for joining us this morning.
TRISH LERIEO: Thank you for having us.
BLACKWELL: First question is to you, Trish.
Tyler got his first gun at age 4.
Why give a gun to a preschooler?
TRISH LERIEO: At the age of 4, this has just been something in our family that has been passed down from generation to generation.
You know, all of my grandparents fought in the Armed Services. My father and his brothers were avid hunters and felt like education and starting at an early age with him was something that was extremely important.
The gun was never given to him and left unattended. It was always put up out of place when he was around. But wanted to make sure that at an early age he realized that it was a tool and not just a toy.
BLACKWELL: And Tyler, the little boy who accidentally shot his sister was 5 years old.
What do you think say to people who think that is just too young to be exposed to guns?
TYLER LERIEO: I feel like if you learn at an early age, you would have known not to play with it and would have told his parents or something, you know, and he just would have reacted better.
BLACKWELL: Well, let's talk about today. You are 17 and you are on the USA junior shotgun squad, competing at the national level.
How has being around guns for the last 13 years now affected your life?
TYLER LERIEO: It just makes it -- just gives me something to do, keeps me out of trouble, keeps me busy. I love doing it.
BLACKWELL: You performed for the CNN founder, Ted Turner, at his Florida plantation. Tell us about this.
TYLER LERIEO: Well, I mean, we were just there (inaudible) he has a -- it's actually his son, Bo Turner's place, and he does camps and stuff for the youth and everything, keeping them busy and out of trouble. He does for fishing and hunting and everything, and then I just went down there and showed him a -- did a little --
TRISH LERIEO: Demonstration...
TYLER LERIEO: -- demonstration for them and that's about it.
BLACKWELL: Trish, you say that this was something that was a tradition in your family and it's a tradition in a lot of families, but not every family decides that before your kid can tie his shoes you hand him a gun.
Why not wait until he is 10, 14, 15, maybe?
TRISH LERIEO: It's just part of our family. It's in the culture. I think that when you go back in time here in the United States, you know, kids in our generation and in the past have always played cowboys and Indians, whether it was with, you know, toy guns, sticks, you still see that sometime today on the playgrounds.
I feel like education at an early age is powerful and strong. That's why even see that push into our school systems, at an early age, trying to talk to kids about things, because the sooner you can teach them and educate them, the better and the more powerful that message is later on in life.
BLACKWELL: Yes, I want to talk about --
TRISH LERIEO: The key is education and monitoring.
BLACKWELL: I want to talk one specific angle of this, because there are websites that sell these colorful guns. They have the ads for guns that are pink. Some of them have flowers. They look like toys.
How does a parent balance the danger of these guns with something that looks like it's supposed to be fun?
TRISH LERIEO: Well, I think that even with Tyler shooting, it's about fun. You want the kids to enjoy what they are doing. But you know, you have that conversation and dialogue with your child about, this is a tool, this is, you know, his sport equipment that is always pointed downrange. It is never something that is given to a child and left unattended. It is always put up out of sight.
You have to take the necessary precautions to ensure that the child can't get to it, that even if they can get to it, there's a safety on it, that the -- there is not, you know, anything in the chamber. So it's really up to the parent to ensure that the child is safe and everybody around them is safe when they are handling a gun.
BLACKWELL: Well, Trish, Tyler Lerieo, I thank you for having this conversation with me, something will -- as this national gun debate continues, more people will be discussing. Thank you.
TRISH LERIEO: Thank you. BLACKWELL: Let's go back to Randi in Boston.
KAYE: Victor thanks very much.
Coming up next, even in death, suspected bomber Tamerlan Tsarnaev is causing outrage. What should be done with his body? People don't want his final resting place in this area. He allegedly caused so much heartbreak of course here, that story after this.
KAYE: The funeral director who's handling the burial of suspected bomber Tamerlan Tsarnaev told our Boston affiliate WBZ that he made an oath to never turn anyone away.
PETER STEFAN, FUNERAL DIRECTOR: I go back to the time when Lee Harvey Oswald died, somebody buried him. Timothy McVeigh, somebody handled that. Jeffrey Dahmer, somebody handled that.
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KAYE: But those killers were all U.S. citizens, Tsarnaev was not. And some believe his final resting place should not be in the United States, despite his family's plan to bury him in the Boston area. Here's CNN's Brian Todd.
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BRIAN TODD, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): He is causing emotional turmoil even in death. Tamerlan Tsarnaev's body finally claimed by his uncle and sisters, drew protesters to one funeral home and that home only had him for a few hours.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Send him back to Russia.
TODD (voice-over): The director of the funeral home in Worcester, Massachusetts, which currently has the body, says he's had trouble finding a cemetery that will take Tsarnaev for burial.
A family spokeswoman says the body won't be taken to Russia, that he'll be buried somewhere in the general Boston area. We went around Boston and Cambridge, asking people how they felt about that.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Too sad for words. It's too sad. He shouldn't be here. He should never have even come. If he had never come, it would have been -- none of this would have happened. He had every advantage he could have here. He shouldn't be buried here.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I don't really care where he is buried. To me, he is dead already. How much more can you punish him? I just -- to me, it's too petty.
TODD (voice-over): The issue of how to bury Tsarnaev is also hugely controversial, especially within Boston's Muslim community.
TODD: As the leaders here at the Islamic Society of Boston Mosque in Cambridge, where the brothers sometimes prayed, well, they want nothing to do with the funeral. They are not involved with it and they no longer even want to talk about it.
As one official here told me, they understand the Tsarnaev family's pain, but they are, quote, "utterly devastated by this entire experience."
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The prophet of Islam is a prophet of mercy, not bombs.
TODD (voice-over): After midday prayers at the Yusuf (ph) Mosque in Brighton, I asked Imam Ibrahim Rahim (ph) why so many top imams, including him, won't preside over Tamerlan Tsarnaev's funeral.
IMAM IBRAHIM RAHIM, YUSUF MOSQUE: Addressing his issue over addressing the -- his concerns over the concerns of the entire Commonwealth of Massachusetts, it just doesn't balance out. So we don't touch it to be respectful in regards to of all of the sentiments that are out there.
TODD (voice-over): So in place of traditional burial with an imam, Rahim says, he would advise the family to have a relative or another lay person preside, do it privately with the traditional rites of washing the body, shrouding it, praying, placing him in the ground.
TODD: Do you think he should be buried in Massachusetts or in the United States even?
RAHIM: You know, I don't know what his nation status is, but if he is not from here, then as an American speaking, not an imam, I think he probably should go back to his nation and be buried, but that's not up to me.
TODD: Aside from the questions of how and where Tamerlan Tsarnaev is buried, there is also a continuing question of when. The family spokeswoman says relatives won't bury the suspected bomber until an independent autopsy is conducted -- Brian Todd, CNN, Boston.
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KAYE: Well, the time has finally come. Jodi Arias prepares to learn her fate. It is now all in the hands of the jury. We'll have that for you next.
KAYE: After 17 dramatic weeks, the fate of Jodi Arias has now been handed to the jury. On Friday, the judge instructed the group to consider charges of first- or second-degree murder or manslaughter when determining if Arias is guilty in the death of her ex-boyfriend, Travis Alexander.
Jean Casarez from CNN's sister network, HLN, joins us with an inside look at the final arguments.
JEAN CASAREZ, HLN CORRESPONDENT: Randi, the closing arguments are finished, the jury has begun their deliberation; the final jury is eight men and four women. Juan Martinez began his closing arguments by developing themes, that Jodi was a manipulator, Jodi was a liar, Jodi was a stalker, Jodi was someone that always played the victim and never, ever admitted that it was her fault.
He began to establish what he says are the elements of premeditation for murder, that she staged a burglary of her grandfather's home, stealing his .25 caliber handgun, that she decided she needed gas cans so she would never be able to have been able to found out of going to Travis' home in Arizona, that she dyed her hair brown so no one would know it was her.
The defense in their closing argument focused in on the crime scene itself, that it was a chaotic crime scene because it was a chaotic relationship and that Jodi was very intelligent. And she left a paper trail; she wouldn't have done that if she was on a covert mission for murder. She made bank deposits, she rented the rental car with a debit card, she went to Walmart using her debit card and her gas purchases were with a debit card.
They went back to the self-defense theme, saying maybe Jodi did believe her life was in imminent danger. And she believed as a victim of domestic violence. But once she fired that shot maybe she snapped, maybe she went too far, because that crime scene shows anger and rage and passion.
The rebuttal close by Juan Martinez focused once again on Jodi is a liar, and if you believe there is no premeditation, if you believe this is heat of passion manslaughter, then you are believing Jodi Arias. Next week we believe there will most likely be a verdict here in Arizona. Randi, back to you.
KAYE: Jean, thank you very much.
It can be embarrassing when your phone rings at church or class or at work, right, but imagine it happening in the middle of the Jodi Arias murder trial.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: They're not as concerned about things that happened June 4th. I'm there --
KAYE (voice-over): That ring tone was "Dynamite." Clearly, the judge certainly was not amused. The phone apparently went off while it was in a spectator's backpack. The defense's closing arguments went on without a problem.
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KAYE: Having been in that courtroom covering that trial for months, we all know that is a no-no.
All right. Now to Reese Witherspoon's arrest, which has gone from unfortunate to downright embarrassing. What she had to say to the officer that night, all caught on camera.
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JAY LENO, NBC HOST: It was so hot today, Reese Witherspoon was sitting in a cop car just for the air conditioning. That's how hot it was. Oh, boy, this is...
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KAYE: We all know that Reese Witherspoon was accused of interfering with Atlanta police when they arrested her husband for drunk driving last month, but some of her more infamous lines from that evening are getting new play with the release of the police dashcam video.
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NISCHELLE TURNER, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Hollywood golden girl Reese Witherspoon is accustomed to the spotlight. But since her disorderly conduct arrest last month, she's dodged public appearances. That is, until her very public apology on "Good Morning America" Thursday.
REESE WITHERSPOON, ACTRESS: It was one of those nights. You know, we went out to dinner in Atlanta and we had one too many glasses of wine but we thought we were fine to drive. And we absolutely were not. And it's just completely unacceptable and we are so sorry and embarrassed and we know better.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Ma'am, don't get out.
TURNER (voice-over): Police dashboard camera video chronicles the stop from start to finish.
WITHERSPOON: I don't understand.
TURNER (voice-over): And everything in between, from her husband, Jim Toth's, very public field sobriety test, to Witherspoon's now-infamous line:
WITHERSPOON: You know my name? You're about to find out who I am.
TURNER (voice-over): Witherspoon's contrite GMA appearance came just hours before police dashboard video showing her contentious arrest was released.
WITHERSPOON: I'm a U.S. citizen. I'm allowed to stand on American (inaudible) and ask you any question I want to ask.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Go ahead, come on.
WITHERSPOON: You better not arrest me. Are you kidding me?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: No.
WITHERSPOON: I'm an American citizen.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Stop, I told you to get in that car and stay in there, didn't I?
TURNER (voice-over): Her husband, shown here being arrested, tries to quiet her without success.
JIM TOTH, WITHERSPOON'S HUSBAND: Reese, can you please calm down?
WITHERSPOON: I have to obey your orders?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes, you do.
WITHERSPOON: Seemingly unable to deter the officer from taking her into custody, Witherspoon tries a different line of approach.
WITHERSPOON: I'm now being arrested and handcuffed.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes.
WITHERSPOON: Do you know my name, sir?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Don't need to know it.
WITHERSPOON: You don't need to know my name?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Not quite yet.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I'll get that information --
WITHERSPOON: OK, you're about to find out who I am.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: That's fine. I'm not real worried about that, ma'am.
TURNER (voice-over): Perhaps that's what Witherspoon meant by embarrassing.
WITHERSPOON: I had no idea what I was saying that night. I -- when I saw him arresting my husband and I literally panicked, and I said all kinds of crazy things.
TURNER (voice-over): Adding --
WITHERSPOON: I was so disrespectful to him and I have police officers in my family, I work with police officers every day. I know better and it's just unacceptable.
TURNER (voice-over): When asked about what she learned from the incident, Reese wrapped up her damage control interview with a touch of humor.
WITHERSPOON: When a police officer tells you to stay in the car, you stay in the car. I learned that for sure.
TURNER (voice-over): Nischelle Turner, CNN, Hollywood.