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AROUND THE WORLD
Three Missing Young Women Found Alive; Aunt of Gina DeJesus: Faith Got Us Through; Interview with Marc Klaas; Volcano Erupts in Philippines; Benghazi Hearing Scheduled for Tomorrow
Aired May 7, 2013 - 12:00 ET
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SUZANNE MALVEAUX, CNN ANCHOR: Welcome to AROUND THE WORLD. I'm Suzanne Malveaux.
MICHAEL HOLMES, CNN ANCHOR: I'm Michael Holmes. Thanks for your company today.
MALVEAUX: This is a dramatic story. Prayers of three families answered out of Cleveland, Ohio. Three young women, they are free today after held captive for about 10 years or so in the neighborhood home, three middle age men, brothers, not related to victims now under arrest.
HOLMES: Police say the real hero, their words, is Amanda. Talking about Amanda Berry whose frantic call to 911 led officers to them last night.
MALVEAUX: So I want to get down to it. Finding out how those amazing rescue happened. What are police saying about the investigation and how did this happen in the first place?
HOLMES: Extraordinary story. Martin Savidge gets us to speed.
MARTIN SAVIDGE, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Michele Knight disappeared when she was 19. That was 2002. Amanda Berry disappeared the day before her 17th birthday. That was 2003. Gina DeJesus disappeared when she was 14. That was 2004.
Then, Monday evening, a decade-long nightmare ended when Amanda Berry made an emotional 911 call to police.
911 OPERATOR: 911.
BERRY: 911. Help me, I'm Amanda Berry.
911 OPERATOR: Do you need police, fire or ambulance? BERRY: I need police.
911 OPERATOR: OK, and what's going on there?
BERRY: I've been kidnapped and I've been missing for 10 years and I'm here, I'm free now.
911 OPERATOR: OK. What's your address?
BERRY: I can't hear you.
911 OPERATOR: Stay there with those neighbors. Talk to the police when they get there.
911 OPERATOR: Talk to the police when they get there.
911 OPERATOR: Yes, talk to the police when they get there.
BERRY: OK. Are they on there way now?
911 OPERATOR: We're going to send them as soon as we get a car open.
BERRY: I need them now before he gets back.
911 OPERATOR: We're sending them, OK?
BERRY: OK. I mean --
911 OPERATOR: Who is the guy who went out?
BERRY: His name (AUDIO DELETED)
911 OPERATOR: How old is he?
BERRY: He's like 52.
911 OPERATOR: All right.
BERRY: I'm Amanda Berry. I've been on the news for the last 10 years.
911 OPERATOR: I got that here.
Who was his name again?
(AUDIO DELETED) BERRY: And Hispanic.
911 OPERATOR: What's he wearing?
BERRY: I don't know because he's not here right now.
911 OPERATOR: When he left, what was he wearing?
911 OPERATOR: The police are on the way. Talk to them when they get there.
911 OPERATOR: I told you they were on the way. Talk to them when they get there.
911 OPERATOR: Thank you.
SAVIDGE: She made that call after she was able to look out of the house where they were being held and flag down a neighbor.
CHARLES RAMSEY, NEIGHBOR: I heard her screaming. I'm eating my McDonald's, I come outside. I see this girl going nuts trying to get out of the house. So, I go on the porch. I go on the porch and she says, "Help me get out, I've been here a long time."
So, you know, I figured it was a violence dispute. So, I open the door, we can't get in that day because how the door it is, it's so much that a body can't fit through, only your hands.
So, we kick the bottom and she comes out with a little girl and she says, "Call 911, my name is Amanda Berry."
REPORTER: Did you know who that was when she said?
RAMSEY: When she told me it didn't register, until I got to call 911. And I'm like, "I'm calling 911 for Amanda Berry?" I thought this girl was dead, you know what I mean?
And she got on the phone and she said, "Yes, this is me." The girl Amanda told the police, "I ain't just the only one, it's some more girls up in that house."
So, they go on up there, 30, 40 deep. When they came out, it was just astonishing.
SAVIDGE: Police moved in, swarming the house, rescuing the women. They arrested a 52-year-old former school bus driver who lives there, Ariel Castro. They also arrested his two brothers.
DEPUTY CHIEF ED TOMBA, CLEVELAND POLICE DEPT: They made some statements to the responding officers that gave us enough probable cause to affect an arrest.
SAVIDGE: The rescued women were taken to a nearby hospital and checked out. A photo of a beaming Amanda Berry and her sister appeared on Facebook.
DR. GERALD MALONEY, METRO HEALTH DEPARTMETN MEDICAL CENTER: Currently, they're safe. We're in the process of evaluating their medical needs. They appear to be in fair condition at the moment.
This is really good because this isn't the ending we usually hear to these stories. So we're very happy.
SAVIDGE: That sense of happiness and relief shared by police.
TOMBA: It's a great -- it's a great day.
SAVIDGE: And the people of Cleveland.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: It's an unbelievable day.
MALVEAUX: Martin Savidge is joining us now from Cleveland.
And, Martin, we know that the police are now looking at these three brothers. What do we know about these guys?
SAVIDGE (on-camera): Well, authorities are just starting to learn something about these guys. You know, they are all brother. They're all the age of 50, 52, 54. They've been identified, including the owner of the home, who is identified as Ariel Castro. But what's the connection here. What were they doing? And how did this happen? And are all three guilty in the same way? It's not known. And so, you know, authorities say, look, this is really early. They have just been able to find these three women that many people had given up home on. And trying to determine exactly how they were taken, why they were taken, that's a good question. What targeted them? Why them specifically? And then, how is it possible that they could have been held for so long, a decade or more, without people really knowing what was going on.
So we don't know a lot right now. The family, at least one of the uncles, spoke out and apologized on their behalf. He said, you know what, this is both terrible and great. Great, of course, that these women have been found, terrible because they know that their family members may be part of it.
HOLMES: And, I guess, Martin, the thing, too, that astounds most people is, 10 years and they apparently couldn't escape or didn't want to escape or we don't know the insides and outsides of that. I can't imagine what the people in the community there are saying. You know, this house, we knew this guy. How are they all reacting?
SAVIDGE: Yes. And that's a -- you know, that's really gets to the crux of what a lot of people are talking about. Did anybody in this community know? They say -- and I'm talking about neighbors -- they claimed that there were a number of times they did notice something was awry. People there that maybe shouldn't have been there, and that they notified authorities at least on two occasions, they claim. The authorities say their phone records don't show it. But the neighbors say the police came, knocked on the door, looked around a bit and then were gone. So were there missed opportunities? You know, I can't answer that at this particular time. But the neighbors also say that the man who owned that home, he was pretty reclusive. He would always park behind the house. Many times folks didn't think there was anybody there at all. Now, it turns out, there were at least three women, maybe more. Two children, we know, as well.
MALVEAUX: Martin, I imagine a lot of people who on the scene now were actually being -- we're hearing much of the crowd that's around you. I imagine that this neighborhood is being turns upside down.
SAVIDGE: Yes, you've got that right. I mean it's not, of course, just a throng of national media and local media, but international media has come, for obvious reasons. I mean, you know, there are so many of these stories that we hear about in which the outcome is not this way. And now we know that, you know, this is a positive ending. There are three girls missing for a decade that are alive and well and back with their families. So I, you know, I don't think it's surprising that people around the world want to hear more about what in the world happened, how could it happen.
MALVEAUX: All right.
HOLMES: Martin Savidge. Thanks so much, Martin. Keep on top of things and let us know if you hear any more. We appreciate it.
MALVEAUX: That is unbelievable.
HOLMES: It is, isn't it?
MALVEAUX: I mean -- it's extraordinary.
HOLMES: There's a lot more to find out about this, obviously. Yes.
MALVEAUX: And police say, of course, the top priority is going to be the well-being of those three young women. They are now back with their families, reunited. Investigators, they questioned them briefly last night. The FBI experts, they're going to talk with them more in- depth today to find out, you know, at least they can, what happened, how this happened and really their recovery. Where do they go from here?
HOLMES: Yes, exactly. You can't imagine the psychological impact. In a news conference this morning, authorities said they never stopped following leads in the missing person cases over the years. They described the emotion of finding these women alive.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
CHIEF MICHAEL MCGRATH, CLEVELAND POLICE: As a law enforcement person, and I know everybody within the division of police and all my law enforcement partners feel the same, I was overseeing the disappearance of Shakira Johnson back in the low 2000s. She was a 12-year-old female that disappeared and three weeks later we found her body, tragically. So to find these three girls recovered well is really -- it just makes the police department -- it just gives us a boost.
STEVE ANTHONY, FBI SPECIAL AGENT-IN-CHARGE: Family members and law enforcement kept the faith that one day they might see their daughters, their sisters and their nieces, again. Monday evening, that happened. The FBI's Violent Crime Task Force, as the chief and the mayor mentioned, in particular the men and women of the Cleveland Police Department have pursued every tip and have stood with the families each step of the way. And the families of these three young ladies never gave up hope. And neither did law enforcement. As you can imagine, words can't describe the emotions being felt by all. Yes, law enforcement professionals do cry.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
HOLMES: Wow. Well, Gina DeJesus disappeared back in April of 2004. That's nine years ago. But her aunt says, in all that time, Gina's mother never gave up hope.
MALVEAUX: Sandra Ruiz says her sister's faith gave the rest of the family strength during this time that Gina had been missing.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
SANDRA RUIZ, AUNTO OF GINA DEJESUS : My sister had the strength of a thousand women. She knew, she knew, and she kept -- we had the strength, she kept us on the strength, and that's, you know, I give her -- I don't know how she did it, if it was my daughter, I don't know. She's my niece and I -- I survived day by day with God. Amanda is part of our family and so will Michele. Michele will be there with us through thick and thin for the rest of our lives those two women.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: And so I wonder, when you last saw them, they were girls. And when you see them now, they're women.
RUIZ: They're women.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: What can you tell us about how --
RUIZ: And they're stronger than you, you, you, you and me.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I believe that.
RUIZ: Trust me, they are.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: How they're holding -- how, how --
RUIZ: They're doing great.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: How they were different and if they helped one another through this? Did you see any signs of that? Because I'm sure that that helped them get through.
RUIZ: Let me tell you, sisterhood, women that -- those girls, those women are so strong. What we do out here, what we've done in 10 years, is nothing compared to what those women have done together to survive.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
MALVEAUX: We're going to have much more coverage of this amazing, extraordinary story up ahead, including a live interview. This is with Marc Klaas. You might remember, he dedicated his life to protecting children after his own 12-year-old daughter Polly was kidnapped and murdered.
HOLMES: Yes. I spoke with him earlier. A remarkable man. He's got some interesting things to say. So, do stick around for that.
Meanwhile, here's a look at what else we're working on this hour for AROUND THE WORLD.
Well, the blame game over the Benghazi embassy attack continues.
MALVEAUX: Another whistle-blower has now come forward, raising new questions about whether American lives could have been saved.
HOLMES: And tensions are high across the Middle East. Syria says those Israeli attacks leave no room for hesitation. What does that mean? We'll take you live to Damascus.
MALVEAUX: It is a parent's worst nightmare, a child goes missing. But in Cleveland now, this nightmare is over today for three families. We're following this remarkable story making headlines around the world. These three young women missing now for year, close to 10 years, found alive in a house in Cleveland.
HOLMES: Amanda Berry, she disappeared back in 2003. Gina DeJesus vanished in 2004. Michele Knight had been missing since 2002. Extraordinary.
MALVEAUX: Marc Klaas, he has lived this nightmare that many of these parents are going through. Sadly, the story ending in tragedy.
This day clearly must be emotional for you, Marc. I mean your own daughter Polly, who had been kidnapped and murdered. And I don't know if a parent ever really gives up hope that their child is alive, but when you heard this, when you heard that these girls made it after 10 years, what was going on through your mind or through your heart today?
MARC KLAAS, FOUNDER, KLAASKIDS FOUNDATION: Well, I didn't believe it. I mean, you know, finding one child that's been missing for a decade, particularly under these kinds of circumstances, young girls, kidnapped by a predator, to find even one child alive after a decade is an extraordinary thing. But to find three children who are now young women alive after this length of time is -- and you don't want to throw this word around too much, but it seems like a miracle. Certainly the sun shines a little brighter in the United States today because of the extraordinary events that happened in Cleveland last night.
HOLMES: Marc, I talked to you earlier on CNN International. You gave a great response to this question, so I want to put it to you again. You know, obviously, there's going to be psychological impact. Given your perspective, where you're coming from, your knowledge and the work your organization does, if you had these three women in front of you, what would you say to them to, I don't know, help them? KLAAS: Well, first of all, let's understand that they were taken when they were girls, and a girl, a slight girl, has basically no chance against a determined predator, particularly once they're isolated.
They've been intimidated. They've been coerced. They very well may have been tortured. Threats have been made against their family. They've been raped numerous times, would be my guess. They've probably been under physical restraints.
So, I think what I would tell them is, you're not at fault. You have done absolutely nothing wrong. What happened to you doesn't define you.
At this point, these girls need to take advantage of the assistance that's being offered to them, the psychological counseling, the spiritual assistance that might be offered through their churches and to take full advantage of that, to talk to their counselors, people that are trained to assist them in putting their lives back together
But I would also counsel law enforcement, and I don't think I really need to do so in this case, that they need to be very careful as to how they proceed with these girls so that they can begin in the healing process and so that no further damage is done to their minds.
MALVEAUX: And, Marc, in your mind, can you understand how it is that these girls were held captive as long as they were without neighbors or without any kind of alarms here to what was going on in that house in?
KLAAS: Well, until we find out what was going on in the house, everything is obviously speculation.
But as I just mentioned, you know, there are the threats, the intimidations, the torture, the restraint. I wouldn't be surprised if they find secret rooms, maybe even tunnels or caves in that house. So, you know, these girls have been in a very, very difficult position for the last decade.
The extraordinary thing, Suzanne, is the fact that one of these girls was able to take it upon herself to affect her own release. That's something that rarely ever happens in these types of situations. Usually if they're rescued, they're rescued because somebody has ultimately come and taken them out of the situation, not because they've done it on their own volition.
MALVEAUX: And, Marc, you're in a unique position here as a parent who has firsthand experience with this, with the loss of Polly. Is there anything you like to tell the parents of those daughters who are now being reunited with their families?
KLAAS: Well, sure. I mean, love your children. Hold them close. Thank goodness for your good fortune because what has happened to you and what has happened in your life is the rarest of all circumstances, and for that, feel blessed and understand your good fortune.
HOLMES: Marc, great to talk to you. Marc Klaas with a really important perspective there, appreciate it. Thanks so much. And as you were saying, too, what we'll learn in the days ahead, too, what was the spark that made her do this at this time? What was it?
MALVEAUX: Because it was extraordinary and Marc had talked about earlier, the fact that so many, they sometimes give up. They give up on finding their parents or hoping that somebody will come and rescue them and she went ahead.
HOLMES: And that becomes the new normal. Yes, certainly a lot more to learn, yeah.
MALVEAUX: Much more on this story, up ahead.
And we're also taking a look at what else is happening AROUND THE WORLD. There's help now on the way for the victims of the Boston marathon bombings.
HOLMES: Yeah, the Boston One Fund has raised at least -- wait for it -- $28 million now. The head of the fund says the families of those killed in the attack will each receive more than $1 million, some compensation at least. They're cautioning that there is, of course, only so much money can do.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
KENNETH FEINBERG, ADMINISTRATOR, ONE FUND BOSTON: I'll tell you right now, whatever we do with this fund is inadequate. And. everybody. I suggest. lower your expectations about this fund.
If you had a billion dollars, you could not have enough money to deal with all of the problems that ought to be addressed by these attacks.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
HOLMES: And that fund is aiming to distribute money to the victims by the end of June.
MALVEAUX: Good for them.
MALVEAUX: Here's what it looked liked in the Philippines. This is earlier today, Mount Mayon, one of the country's most active volcanoes, spewing -- you can see -- a giant cloud of ash, rocks into the air there.
This was quite the surprise. Four German hikers and their Filipino guide were killed because of this. Twenty-seven other hikers actually needed some help as well.
HOLMES: Yeah, falling rocks apparently the culprit there.
Now Queen Elizabeth not going to the big Commonwealth Summit later this year, known in the colonies as CHOGM. Buckingham Palace says that reviewing the number of long-haul flights the Queen takes is what's prompted this. The commonwealth meeting is scheduled for November in Sri Lanka this year. The queen is, of course, 87-years-old now. And was back in March in hospital for a stomach disorder.
MALVEAUX: Still ahead, the attack on the U.S. embassy in Benghazi, there are new details that are emerging about what happened that night, raising questions about whether or not more Americans could have been saved.
Stay with us.
MALVEAUX: The woman who President Obama has picked to be the next ambassador to Libya is appearing today. This is before a Senate committee.
Her name is Deborah Kay Jones and she would replace Ambassador Chris Stevens who, as we know, was killed in Benghazi. That happened on September 11th of last year, along with three other Americans.
HOLMES: Yeah, we're expecting to hear new details on the attack at a hearing tomorrow.
Dana Bash reports a man described as a whistleblower is going to be testifying. Have a look.
DANA BASH, CNN SENIOR CONGRESSIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Four military personnel were ready to board a plane from Tripoli, Libya, to Benghazi to help American citizens under fire at the consulate there, but were ordered by superiors not to go.
That's what Gregory Hicks, chief of mission in Libya at the time, told House Republican investigators.
REP. DARRELL ISSA (R-CA), OVERSIGHT AND GOVERNMENT REFORM COMMITTEE: At the point that this plane was being loaded, it was between the first attack that killed two and the second attack that killed two more.
They may not have arrived in time to save lives, but at the time the decision was made, the decision was wrong.
BASH: Who made that decision?
ISSA: We want to find out who made this decision.
BASH: The Pentagon has not yet responded to Hicks' claims.
House GOP Chairman Daryl Issa calls Hicks a Benghazi whistleblower, saying Hicks will testify this week that he believes the Pentagon made a mistake by not scrambling F-15s to fly over, arguing it would have scared the attackers and might very well have prevented some of the bad things that happened that night, Hicks told GOP investigators. Then-Defense Secretary Leon Panetta argued by the time military response could have arrived the attack was over.
LEON PANETTA, FORMER DEFENSE SECRETARY: This is not 911. You cannot just simply call and expect within two minutes to have a team in place.
BASH: Hicks will bolster GOP claims that Obama officials knew from the start it was not what they publicly suggested, a spontaneous demonstration.
I think everybody in the mission thought it was a terrorist attack from the beginning, Hicks told investigators, saying slain Ambassador Chris Stevens' final report was, Greg, we are under attack.
Earlier this year, Hillary Clinton snapped at Republicans for dwelling on questions about what sparked the attack.
HILLARY CLINTON, FORMER SECRETARY OF STATE: The fact is we have four dead Americans. What difference at this point does it make?
BASH: Hicks told investigators it made a big difference because U.N. Ambassador Susan Rice, referencing administration talking points, called it a demonstration on television minutes after Libya's leader called it an attack.
Hicks says that offended Libya and made it harder for the FBI to investigation.
Greg Hicks testimony that it is simply his opinion.
ISSA: Weeks later, in New York, the president of Libya was still upset about being called out as either misinformed or lying on national TV here in the U.S.
So I think it suffices to say it had an effect on our diplomatic relations.
BASH: The committee's top Dem argued they were iced out of the investigation, calling it a, quote, "partisan report with reckless and false accusations."
How do you answer the charge that what you're doing is partisan?
ISSA: Well, I think that changing the talking points from the truth to an untruth is certainly partisan and likely for political reasons, but I think the better question is, why are the Democrats not just as upset that we didn't do all we could do to save American lives?
BASH: Issa's Democratic counterpart, Congressman Elijah Cummings, says Issa and his fellow Republicans are engaging, in, quote, "investigation by press release," which he says does a disservice to finding the facts.
Dana Bash, CNN, Capitol Hill.
HOLMES: All right, and we've much more ahead on that incredible story of the missing women in Ohio, missing no more after more than nine years.
MALVEAUX: And coming up, we're going to take a look at the legal consequences that their captors might face.