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Michelle Knight Not With Family; Pressure Builds Over Talking Points; Russia Didn't Tell Whole Story; Castro's Daughter Understands Oddities Now; Jodi Arias Case Reaches Sentencing Phase; Zimmerman Defense Files Motions on Jury; Astronauts Fix Ammonia Leak; Prince Harry's U.S. Visit Shows Serious Side

Aired May 11, 2013 - 17:00   ET


DON LEMON, CNN ANCHOR: One of the Cleveland kidnap victims is in a secret location right now. Police know where she is, but they are not telling her family.

What the Russians didn't tell us about Tamerlan Tsarnaev. A source tells CNN the Intel could have changed the investigation.

Emergency in space. Astronauts take a walk to repair an ammonia leak. Crash landing. Look closely. That's a helicopter traveling down a street.

And a royal visit, Prince Harry in the U.S. honoring American wounded warriors. You are in the CNN NEWSROOM, everyone. I'm Don Lemon.

We are learning more shocking details about what transpired in this house in Cleveland, Ohio, which was today boarded up to preserve the crime scene. This as DNA test confirmed, one of the alleged victims, Amanda Berry gave birth to Ariel Castro's baby. The Ohio attorney general office says, tests show the man accused of kidnapping her and raping her over ten years is the father of her now six-year-old girl. Castro's grown daughter is telling CNN about the times she was with him in the house unknowingly she says just feet away from the alleged victims.


ANGIE GREGG, ARIEL CASTRO'S DAUGHTER: Ever since my mom lived in that house, the basement was always kept locked. I have never been up stairs in the house. And I never had reason to be. I asked him if I could see my room for old time's sake. And he says, oh honey, there is so much junk up there. You don't want to go up there.


LEMON: More of that exclusive interview coming up on CNN. And we're also learning that the man accused of the unthinkable Ariel Castro is on what police call suicide prevention. Now locked away in a nine by nine-foot cell.

As for one of his alleged victims, Michelle Knight she has released from the hospital. But while Amanda Berry and Gina DeJesus are with their family members, Michelle's family doesn't know where she is. CNN's Susan Candiotti is live for us now. Susan, first, what is the latest on Michelle Knight's whereabouts?

SUSAN CANDIOTTI, CNN NATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Hi, Don. Well, we don't know exactly where she is. And it appears as though that's the way Michelle Knight might want it. Yes, her family is telling us that they have been unable to find out exactly where she is including her mother and other relatives. All I can tell you is this, a source close to the investigation tells us that Michelle Knight is in a safe and secure place and that she's very, very comfortable there. And that's how it's going to stay for now.

LEMON: So, Susan, Cleveland police took Michelle Knight off the FBI's missing persons list just a little more than eight year after she disappeared. Why?

CANDIOTTI: Yes. Let's recap that. She went missing in 2002. And then after about 15 months, sometime in 2003, she was removed from that FBI database because, according to the Cleveland Police Department, there is a certain protocol that someone who is missing, an adult, that it must be verified with a family member, or a friend or someone that she remains missing.

But apparently, they were unable to do so and so that's why she was removed from the FBI's adult missing database. However, Cleveland police maintain, Don, that they have kept that case open all these years. And in fact, in 2012, our sources tell us, tell my colleague Pam Brown that, in fact, her missing person status was verified. However, it's unclear why was she wasn't put back into the FBI database at that time -- Don.

LEMON: Susan, can you tell me more about Ariel Castro? As I said earlier when I was introducing you, he's on what police are calling a suicide prevention. How does that compare to suicide watch? What's the distinction there?

CANDIOTTI: Well, suicide watch would be if you as an inmate say, "I want to kill myself." And then the judge may step in, would likely step in and/or the jail and put you on suicide watch. However, according to jail officials, sheriff's officials, they tell me that in this case when you have a high profile inmate such as Ariel Castro, you are automatically put in a special area away from other pods and cells where other inmates are and you were put on suicide prevention which means that someone sits outside your cell and can keep an eye on you 24 hours a day. This cell is set up where he is I'm told with a steel door, with a wide window so that you can see into that cell at all times.

LEMON: Susan Candiotti, thank you very much for that.

CANDIOTTI: Meantime, friends and family of Ariel Castro are trying to come to grips with the horrors of the last decade. His own daughter horrified by what her father allegedly did.

CNN's Laurie Segall has this exclusive interview.


GREGG: My husband and I are in complete disbelief that the friendly, caring, doting man I knew as my daddy was, in fact, the most evil, vile, demonic criminal that I have met or heard of to rape, starve, and beat innocent human beings? I have no sympathy for the man. I have no sympathy. He was just another person who has lied and deceived and manipulated people. And I could never forgive him. He's nothing but a memory anymore. He can never be daddy again.


LEMON: In 20 minutes, more of this exclusive interview including why his daughter says she wishes she could erase him from her mind.

Charles Ramsey doesn't want the title "hero" but a lot of people say he is. He's the man who helped break down that door in that Cleveland house. After he heard Amanda Berry screams, he joined Rock Newman, the radio host and former boxing promoter in "We Act Radio" in Washington, D.C. CNN was exclusively invited to join them in the studio. Take a listen.


CHARLES RAMSEY, RESCUED ABDUCTED WOMEN: She didn't already call 911 and say, forget it. Just take me to the police station. Remember, we have cars on the street. We didn't have to call nobody.


RAMSEY: She was free. All she had to do was get in somebody's car, take this girl to the police. She stuck around for the police to get there to tell them, go in there and get the people.

NEWMAN: So, Amanda Berry is a hero also.

RAMSEY: That's the damn celebrity, not me. I just played my position.

NEWMAN: Right. Right.


Oh, my god, oh, my god. What a story.

RAMSEY: When Gina DeJesus came out of that house and then Michelle girl came out of the house, that -- man, listen. It was like -- heaven for a split second opened up and then god said, enough. This has gone on long enough. You weren't supposed to grab no girls. See, this was a test, fool. And you failed it with flying colors.

NEWMAN: How do you describe how you're feeling?

RAMSEY: Happy. Was the first one. Look there. She's alive. Look at that one. She's alive. But then that goes out of the way. Because, see, I'm not -- what do you want to call? Timid. I'm a predator. So we switched from -- boy, that was a good thing to if I get my hands on Ariel before the police --

NEWMAN: You just had some instinct that you wanted to take care of serious business yourself.

RAMSEY: You wouldn't be interviewing me. At least not live to live where I can touch you. I would be in the penitentiary, bro. I would be the first human on earth able to take a person's head off their body and kick it down the street like a soccer ball.

NEWMAN: Wow. Man, oh, man. What a story.


LEMON: There's other news to report. And we want to head to Washington and the controversy still swirling around the government talking points used to describe last year's attack on the U.S. compound in Benghazi, Libya. CNN's sources say an e-mail discussion about those much debated talking points seemed to suggest a White House and State Department and the State Department were more involved in removing an assessment that said a group with ties to al Qaeda was involved in the attack.

Athena Jones following the development for us from the White House. Athena, is the bottom line here a question? Did government officials change their account of the attack for political reasons?

ATHENA JONES, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Hi, Don. Well, that's certainly what republican critics are alleging. We know that there were multiple discussions going on in coming up with these talking points between the white House, the State Department, the FBI, the CIA and Justice Department officials. But republican critics allege that the administration knew early on that this attack in Benghazi was the result of a planned terror operation. Even as they were giving U.N. Ambassador Susan Rice talking points to go on the Sunday talk shows and blame this attack on violence that arose out of demonstrations over a video that had insulted Islam.

Here you have President Obama who was just a few weeks away from another election. He had been touting the finding and killing of Osama bin Laden. The administration had talked about al Qaeda having been decimated and being on the run. And then here you have this attack in Benghazi. And on September 11th no less, that appeared to have extremist causes. And so, Republicans say that officials removed that one reference to a group having a link with al Qaeda possibly being involved.

Also removing a line about how the CIA had given multiple warnings about the potential for a terrorist attack there in that area in Benghazi, Libya. And so, Republicans say they removed these lines for political cover. Now, the administration says those lines were removed from the talking points because this was an ongoing investigation. And they didn't want to compromise that -- the mixture the only state what they knew to be true -- Don.

LEMON: And Athena, some are saying that the controversy is an attempt to sabotage Hillary Clinton's chance of a possible 2016 presidential run. What do you know about that?

JONES: Well, certainly a lot of the interest has to do with the fact that former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton was then at the helm now. She hasn't said that she's running for president in 2016. But a lot of people think that she wants to. And I should tell you that just a month after the Benghazi attack, she gave an interview to CNN saying that she took responsibility for diplomatic security or for the lack of it in this case.

She also said that in hearings, in Congressional hearings in January just a few months ago. But that's not enough for republican critics like Kentucky Senator Rand Paul who, unlike a lot of people said a few months ago that he's not going to deny that he's interested in possibly running for president. He was speaking last night at a dinner of the Iowa GOP. This is an annual dinner in Iowa. He talked about that security issue. Let's listen to that.


SEN. RAND PAUL (R), KENTUCKY: They are asking for security. They are pleading for security. And they got nothing. It was inexcusable. It was a dereliction of duty and it should preclude her from holding our office.


JONES: So, there you heard from Senator Rand Paul. That's just one example of the kind of criticism we expect former Secretary Clinton to continue to come under in the coming weeks and months -- Don.

LEMON: All right. Thank you very much, Athena. I appreciate that. Boston's top cop makes candid comments about how the intelligence community works, that's next. And also ahead, something you never want to see or hear. A possible fire in the White House. We'll tell you what happened.


LEMON: The President honored the nation's top cops in the today. Mr. Obama, he used the White House event to push Congress for a tougher gun laws, he singled out the officers who responded to the Boston bombings and took part in the manhunt for the Tsarnaev brothers calling their bravery difficult.


PRES. BARACK OBAMA (D), UNITED STATES: They are out there. Hundreds of thousands patrolling our streets every single day. And we know that when we need you most, you will be ready to dash into danger to protect our lives, even if it means putting your lives on the line. That's what these folks are all about. That's what the men standing -- the men and women standing behind me have proven.


LEMON: In the meantime, Boston's top cop says, we've got to improve communication among federal, state and local law enforcement. Hearings before Congress on the Boston bombings dealt into facts the FBI knew and information, what was available to local cops. One congressman said, the bombers may have succeeded because the system failed. Boston's police commissioner said information sharing guidelines set up after 9/11 were not always used.


EDWARD DAVIS, BOSTON POLICE COMMISSIONER: If we knew everything that we know now, absent the blast -- without the blast being involved in it, but if we knew all these things that have come out since then, we would have taken a hard look at these individuals. But at this point in time, I can't say that when we knew things that we would have done anything differently.


LEMON: Also from Boston today, we have learned that Russia kept to itself some information about bombing suspect Tamerlan Tsarnaev. I'm talking about information that the FBI would certainly have wanted to know like details about Tsarnaev's extremism and that he was becoming more radicalized than Russia led on.

I want to go to CNN's Paula Newton now, she's with me from Boston. Paula, hypothetically, if the FBI knew this information before the bombings, could things have gone differently one month ago?

PAULA NEWTON, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: You know, it's hard to say. And you heard Edward Davis there beforehand saying, it's hard to know. But you had to think Don, that if you had clear information and what some people have reported is that he actually communicated with his mother the desire to join extremists that he would not maybe even have made back to Russia, allowed back in in 2012. And if he had been in Russia, he would have been questioned or at least perhaps had some kind of surveillance watchful eye when he returned from Russia in 2012.

A lot of what-ifs here. But as you can see from that Congressional testimony that you were just talking about, it's clear. The dots were not connected. And there are a lot of things that could have happened, that could have been more streamlined. A lot of lessons learned from 9/11 that apparently were not learning. And I think that's what's been so unnerving, so unsettling for law enforcement officials and certainly intelligence officials dealing with this.

And Don, a reminder, you know, right now on the ground in Russia, we have a very large FBI team investigating this, I'm sure they are uncovering much more as we speak -- Don.

LEMON: And Paula, we also have some solid confirmation today about where Tamerlan Tsarnaev's body is buried. To ask you where it is, I mean, do we really need to know? I mean, is it the public's right to know where he's buried?

NEWTON: It is a matter of public record. We obtained the burst of the death certificate and on the death certificate if that's where he's buried. The problem was a controversy, people in Cambridge didn't want him buried there. People in Massachusetts are relieved and very gratified that he's not buried in this state. At the end of the day, Virginia is saying, why us? We didn't get a heads up about this.

What happened Don is that an interfaith group, Christians, Hindus, people of faith got together and said, we need to bury this person. It is not right. And so, for that reason they got together, they offered this plot in Virginia. Officials there saying, look this caught us off guard. We don't want this -- remember to this. At the same time, Don, I can tell you a lot of people in this city, even victims and their families telling me they had mixed feelings, they're saying, look, it's time for him to be laid to rest. We want to stop talking about him, we want to get on with the recovery of this city and the victims.

LEMON: Yes. Absolutely. Thank you, Paula. We really appreciate your reporting.

This week, three women escaped after allegedly being held prisoner for a decade in an Ohio home. A note reportedly written by their suspected captor actually blames them for getting tossed into that torture chamber. That's next.



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LEMON: We are learning more about the man charged withholding three women captive for a decade in Ohio. CNN's Pamela Brown has some disturbing details and a chilling look into Ariel Castro's backyard.


PAMELA BROWN, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): These exclusive pictures obtained by CNN give us the first glimpse into Ariel Castro's backyard, though much of it is obscured by tarps you can see junk strewn all around and this eerie image of a white cross spotted by a neighbor.

At his first court appearance, Castro looked despondent repeatedly looking down and seemingly making eye contact with no one.

TIMOTHY J. MCGINTY, CUYAHOGA COUNTY PROSECUTOR: We evaluate whether to seek charges eligible for the death penalty.

BROWN: Following his arraignment, Cuyahoga County prosecutor Tim McGinty made it clear additional charges could likely be added. Castro already faces four counts of kidnapping and three counts of rape.

MCGINTY: For each and every act of sexual violence, rape, each day of kidnapping, every felonious assault, all his attempted murders and each act of aggravated murder.

BROWN: As investigators sift through at least 200 pieces of evidence taken out of this house of horrors, one in particular is getting attention. Details of a note written by Castro in 2004 have surfaced. According to law enforcement sources, Castro wrote about being abused by a family member, in an attempt to justify his own horrid actions.

According to WOIO reporter Scott Taylor, Castro says, quote, "I am a sexual predator." He reportedly writes about picking up three women saying they are here against their will because they made a mistake of getting in the car with a total stranger.


LEMON: Unbelievable. Psychologist Wendy Walsh is with me. She is in Los Angeles now. Wendy, many people are shocked by so many aspects of this absolute horror story. Most of us -- I mean, most people can't even wrap our heads around, you know, how someone could keep them prisoners in his own house for a decade? How does that happen in our society?

WENDY WALSH, HUMAN BEHAVIOR EXPERT: OK. So, remember, Don. I explained the whys. I'm not certainly forgiving him in any means but let me say that there have been marauding males in the lower classes in the history of our species who have, you know, hard time getting along. But let me say, we also have more isolation and more disassociation than we've ever had. The thing that protected the vulnerable, the children, the elderly, the fragile young girls was that we roamed in species and bands of 35 to 40 people.

We weren't isolated. I'm telling you, Don. I don't even think 50 years ago, he could have pulled this off. Because there would have been a sister, mother, brother, cousin either checking in on him more or checking in and protecting those young girls.

LEMON: We are in our own little world so much now on just our iPhones and social media instead of actually socializing.


LEMON: And getting to know our neighbors. As we witnessed though Wendy, the rise of women, more freedom, more power, better jobs. They are seeking higher caliber men. You say that that may be a factor with a guy like this.

WALSH: Well, it's important when we are thinking in large scale sociological terms when women rise in economic power, they tend to come up with what sociologist called the George Clooney effect. They still want a more wealthy, pr equally wealthy, or smarter, or slightly older mate to marry. So, what this leaves is a pooling of lower status men in the lower classes who can't have access to mates. Now, think about this guy. He had a restraining order against him from his wife. So, there was his access there.

And really, Don, how would he have achieved out of the dating scene on today's market. So, what did he do? He restrained three women. He referred to those women as one of them at least at his girlfriend to his daughter. So, in his mind, he was just capturing what he felt was his because he wasn't having access to it.

LEMON: You know, a moment ago we talked about that note reportedly written by Ariel Castro. Ariel Castro in 2004. He actually blamed them the girls for their own captivity saying it was their mistake for getting in a stranger's car. But from what I understand of your story, Wendy, anyone could make a mistake like that.

WALSH: Anyone can make a mistake like that, Don. I'm about to go public and tell you a story that I have never told anybody, even my parents. But your producer -- he made me. Because he said, if you can show that a smart woman can make this mistake when she was young you can understand how it can happen.

When I was 15-years-old, I was coming out of -- walking down a street in Toronto, Canada. Yonge Street. And I had my little modeling portfolio with me. And a guy pulled up and he had this tone of voice that were so familiar like he knew me. And he literally said, hey, how are you doing? You want a lift to your dad's office? I swear to god, that's what he said. I didn't really know him. I thought, maybe he's a friend of my parents I didn't recognize.

So, I get in the car. We start to drive away. I look and immediately the door locks go down. This is the '80s. And they were cut off, they were shaved off. And then he put on these black gloves and said, so what do you like to do for fun? And I went, nothing. He goes, do you know what I like to do as he was putting on the black gloves, I like to take on young things like you. I swear he said this.

At this point, I'm dying inside thinking how can I get out, how can I cause attention, what can I do. Luckily within ten minutes -- I will say it's because I was praying. You can think of whatever reason you want. Stop attacking me. His car broke down. And he jump out angry as anything he said, stay in the car! And I jumped right out the driver side of the car. I never even told my parents because I was so ashamed that I've made this quick split second decision.

LEMON: Wow. Those prayers worked. Something did.

WALSH: They did.

LEMON: I know. Oh, my goodness. Thank you. Thank you for sharing that story. I appreciate that.

You know, CNN sat down for an exclusive interview with the daughter of the man accused of keeping those women prisoners for a decade in Ohio. What she has to say about her dad? Some strong words. That's next.


LEMON: The daughter of the man accused of enslaving three women for nearly a decade says his oddities over the years make sense now. Angie Gregg says she now understands why her father, Ariel Castro, would never want to leave Cleveland for longer than a day to see her or her kids when they lived out of state.

CNN's Laurie Segall sat down with her for an exclusive interview.


ANGIE GREGG, DAUGHTER OF ARIEL CASTRO: This is from '02. He's the proud grandpa. I mean -- I didn't -- never saw a dark side. He adored me and the kids.

LAURIE SEGALL, CNN CORRESPONDENT: You can see in this photo he adores your son. Is it tough looking at this photo now knowing what was also happening?

GREGG: It is. It is. I don't know how somebody so loving can be a demon at the flick of a switch. Apparently, he can turn it off and turn it on, you know, depending on who he was around.

SEGALL: Good memories when you look at this picture? Is this something you want to keep in your mind?

GREGG: I would love -- if I could I would erase him from my memory completely. No. This is my daddy and some of the -- no, some of the, you know, younger family members, again. You know. My children and the kids in the neighborhood would line up for four-wheeler rides in the parking lot, you know, by the house. This is like every summer. It would be the four-wheeler, the motorcycle. Parents trusted him with their children. That was just the type of man that he was.


LEMON: Laurie Segall joins me now.

Laurie, does Angie Gregg talk about a desire to meet these three women?

SEGALL: She did. Obviously, she's still trying to wrap her head around the fact that her father could be capable of such atrocities. She said she feels a connection. She said, if they are ever ready, she would like to see them. She said she knows there will be healing and that could be very, very far along -- Don?

LEMON: Does she talk at all about the 6-year-old Amanda Berry apparently had while she was held captive?

SEGALL: You know, she did. We found out now she's actually related to this young woman. This 6-year-old was Ariel's daughter. We just found this out. She said there were signs.

I want to play you what she told me. Listen to this.


GREGG: He showed me a picture that was in his cell phone, randomly. He said, look at this cute little girl. It was a face shot. I said, she's cute, who is that? You know? He said, this is my girlfriend's child. I said, Dad, that girl looks like Emily. Emily is my younger sister.


LEMON: So odd. So odd.

SEGALL: You know, very powerful stuff.

LEMAN: OK. Laurie, thank you very much. Great reporting.

We are also going to hear the back story on how you got this exclusive interview coming up on CNN. It's pretty interesting. (COMMERCIAL BREAK)


CHRISTINE ROMANS, CNN BUSINESS CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Record highs for the stock market. But investors are wary.

MOHAMED EL-ERIAN, CEO, PIMCO: Investors are excited they are making money, but they are really anxious. They understand that this has an element of artificiality.

ROMANS: If that's what the pros are saying, imagine how anxious individual retail investors must feel about this market rally.

And what about the almost half of all Americans who are just too scared to invest in stocks? Americans have few other choices out there to help build wealth and save for retirement. In today's low- interest-rate environment, the returns on bonds and interest bearing accounts are negligible.

MATT MCCALL, PRESIDENT, PENN FINANCIAL GROUP: A lot of investors, Christine, are on the sidelines waiting to get in. What are you waiting for? We are hitting all-time highs. Get in the market.

ROMANS (on camera): But they are afraid they've seen a bull market is more than four years old. They don't want to be the sucker at the end.

(voice-over): But get in how? Look for value in companies that may be lagging behind in the recent bull market run.

LIZ MILLER, PRESIDENT, SUMMIT PLACE FINANCIAL ADVISERS: The way we have seen industrial names lag, really, to me, is a buying opportunity. We will have economic growth and these more sensitive companies have plenty of opportunity to get stronger and the stocks to move higher.

You know, it's perfectly good to be happy and take profits off the table, and keep the positions, keep the commitment.

ROMANS: Christine Romans, CNN, Las Vegas.


LEMON: All right, Christine.

This week, a jury in Phoenix found Jodi Arias guilty of first-degree murder in the death of her ex-boyfriend.


UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: We the jury, duly empanelled and sworn in the above entitled action, upon our oaths, do find the defendant as to court one, first-degree murder, guilty. Five jurors find premeditated. Zero find felony murder. Seven find both premeditated and felony. (END VIDEO CLIP)

LEMON: But the case is far from over. The next step, known as the aggravation phase, is now scheduled to start on Wednesday. That phase will move Arias closer to learning whether she will live or die.

Criminal defense attorney, Holly Hughes, is here.

Is that right, the aggravation phase it's called?

HOLLY HUGHES, CRIMINAL DEFENSE ATTORNEY & FORMER PROSECUTOR: That's what they call it. In the law, you have to have aggravating factors in order to seek the death penalty.

LEMON: OK. So break down to us. This is whether she'll live or die. What is it?

HUGHES: Right. Arizona is very different because they break it into two parts, the penalty phase, aggravation phase, death phase, whatever you want to call it. The prosecutor has to prove this was an unusually cruel murder. He's going to put up evidence for the jury. He'll do that by calling the medical examiner back to the stand. The guy's name is Dr. Kevin Horn. He testified in the main trial. He's going to get on and they will go through every single one of the 29 stab wounds. And then the slit to the throat was ear to ear, she almost decapitated him, all the way to the bone, and a shot in the face.

LEMON: All of this will be on television again.


LEMON: So more trial, more testimony.

HUGHES: Yes. We have a couple of days at least. Yes, yes.

LEMON: Just moments after Jodi Arias was convicted of murder, she sat down to do an interview with Phoenix TV station, KSAZ. Listen to this.


JODI ARIAS, CONVICTED OF MURDER: Um, I said years ago that I would rather get death than life. That's still true today. I believe death is the ultimate freedom. I would rather just have my freedom as soon as I can get it.

UNIDENTIFIED TV CORRESPONDENT: You're saying you actually prefer getting the death penalty to being in prison for life?





HUGHES: You look perplexed, Don Lemon. What's up?


LEMON: I don't know that much about this particular case, but I know any attorney would be like, do not talk. Quiet. How did her lawyer let her do that?

HUGHES: Her lawyers didn't let her do anything. OK, you are not as involved in this as a lot of the country.

LEMON: Right.

HUGHES: If you have been watching the trial, the one thing you know about Jodi Arias is she's going to do it her way, no matter what. She absolutely did not get permission from her lawyers. In fact, they would have said, don't do this, are you crazy?

LEMON: Crazy!

HUGHES: But there is a voice recording --


HUGHES: Yes, you probably could answer that just based on that alone. There is a voice recording she left on a reporter's phone. She called from the jail ahead of time, hey, if I get first-degree murder, head down to the jail, we'll do an interview immediately. She set this up behind her lawyers' backs.

LEMON: This was -- I heard someone talking about it. This is an attractive young reporter. She apparently maybe thought he was good looking and --

HUGHES: Well, yes. He is an attractive male reporter. That's probably why she picked him. Any reporter in the world --


HUGHES: -- would jump for the story. Nothing against him.

LEMON: Exactly.

HUGHES: He did a fantastic job. He got in there, got the story, got crazy girl on tape, yet again.

LEMON: Help or hurt her?

HUGHES: But sure. Well, it's not going to be played for the jury. Remember, the jury is not supposed to be watching any of this. Let's face it, Don. Of course, somebody has seen it. The prosecutor will want to play it. That might happen if she takes the stand and says, oh, don't kill me, have mercy. He can impeach her by saying, wait a minute, didn't you five days ago say you wanted to die?


HUGHES: We might see it come in depending how she proceeds.

LEMON: Moving on, because this trial is winding down. George Zimmerman's trial is just getting ready to begin. He faces second- degree murder charges in the shooting death of Florida teenager Trayvon Martin. This week, Zimmerman and his defense team spoke out about the jury.

What was that all about? What did they say?

HUGHES: Well, basically, they wanted the jury at this point to, I think -- was it be sequestered? You caught me off guard a little bit here, Don. I think they wanted the jury sequestered.


HUGHES: That is obviously -- I can speak to that. That is about -- this case has received so much attention. It's such a sensitive topic. We know what's going to happen. It's going to be about race. The question is going to become, did George Zimmerman racially profile this young man and is that what led to his death? It will be difficult for the jurors. There will be a lot of social pressure on them, not only to decide the issue in court but also to decide, you know, why this terrible, terrible crime happened.

LEMON: We are going from one trial to another. One high-profile trial to another very high-profile trial.

HUGHES: Yes, we are.

LEMON: Thank you.

HUGHES: It's tragic. Sad stuff, Don.

LEMON: Thank you very much. Appreciate it, Holly.


LEMON: Emergency in space. Astronauts take a walk to repair an ammonia leak.


LEMON: Commander Chris Hatfield has made a name for himself as an amateur photographer from the international space station. He's gained a lot of attention posting images, like this one on the U.S. east coast on Twitter from space. Earlier, during the space walk preps of the international space station, he took a couple of pictures of the guys who were going to brave the void of space. How cool is that?

We now take you to outer space. You're looking at the international space station right now. NASA astronauts had to perform an emergency space walk, as I mentioned, to fix an ammonia leak. The space walk started this morning. I want to bring in our resident space expert, John Zarrella.

John, how did it turn out?

JOHN ZARRELLA, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Don, it was just a couple of days ago when the astronauts and cosmonauts on the international space station noticed white flakes flying away from a section of the station. It was determined it was ammonia coolant leaking. NASA quickly mounted an EVA and two astronauts today walked outside the international space station, went over to an area where a cooling pump was the suspect in this mystery that NASA was trying to solve. The astronauts, when they got there, couldn't see any more flakes, couldn't see any leaking of ammonia, but they went ahead, they pulled that pump out and put in a replacement pump and NASA restarted the pump and, low and behold, no more leaking of ammonia. They're hopeful, confident that they've solved the problem. In fact, the astronauts quickly made quick short work of this, way ahead of the time line. They were back inside the space station about an hour ahead of schedule. And again, NASA is going to watch this and monitor this. They're hopeful that they have fixed the ammonia leak problem -- Don?

LEMON: John Zarrella, thank you very much.

Back on earth, a royal visit. Prince Harry in the U.S., honoring America's wounded warriors, next.


LEMON: Plenty of rest and sleep is a prescription for a woman that spent more than two weeks trapped in a collapsed factory in Bangladesh. Doctors say Reshna (ph) is steadily improving but was seriously traumatized. To keep her calm, they're restricting visitors to a few family members. They pulled 2400 survivors from the factory's rubble, but no other than Reshna (ph) in the past 10 days. More than a thousand lost their lives in that collapse.

Prince Harry is showing his serious side on his current trip to the U.S., big departure from the embarrassing visit to Las Vegas last year. Earlier today, the prince stopped at the warrior games in Colorado, a competition for wounded vets. Friday set a tone for today's events with Harry honoring the sacrifice of soldiers from America's past and current wars.

And CNN's royal correspondent, Max Foster, filed this report just last night.


MAX FOSTER, CNN ROYAL CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): The adoring crowds were kept at a distance on Friday as Prince Harry paid his respects at Arlington National Cemetery. As a serving officer in the British army, he knows that with this uniform comes the risk of being killed in combat. This is personal.

He left a note that reads, "To my comrades in arms of the United States of America, who have paid the ultimate sacrifice in the cause of freedom."


FOSTER: Then, a visit to the Tomb of the Unknowns and also a moment at the grave of President John F. Kennedy.


FOSTER: War heroes who escaped death often come back wounded, and Harry was keen to visit some of them at the Walter Reed Medical Center. These are veterans from Afghanistan where Harry has also served.

And so Prince Harry's visit to the U.S. capital comes to a close. Next stop, Colorado, where it is another reception hosted by the British government and an opportunity for Harry to do his part to promote U.K. interests.

SIR PETER WESTMACOTT, BRITISH AMBASSADOR TO THE U.S.: He has come for opening of warrior games and I think that's a direct reflection of the concern that he has for the welfare of people who are damaged, who lose limbs in warfare. And there's also a young lady, Missy Franklin, won four gold medals in the Olympics, and we are thrilled she's here because it just so happens she has chosen to spend her 18th birthday with us and with Prince Harry!



FOSTER: Max Foster, CNN, Arlington, Virginia.


LEMON: All right, Max.

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