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Jodi Arias Jailhouse Interview

Aired May 14, 2013 - 20:00   ET



UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: A friend of ours is dead in the bedroom. We hadn`t hear from him for a while.

JODI ARIAS, CONVICTED OF MURDER: I really don`t remember the day at all.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: We think he`s dead because his roommate just went in there and he said there`s lots of blood.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Were you ever afraid of Travis?

ARIAS: I`ll pass on that question.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: In just those two minutes, Jodi had to make a choice. She would either live or she would die.


NANCY GRACE, HOST: Tonight, Jodi Arias, convicted of murder one. But right now, rare footage of Arias you haven`t seen, straight from the jailhouse, Arias giving her sob story, her side of the story, years ago, before her case sweeps the nation. What, if any, impact could these tapes hold on whether Arias faces the death penalty? Jurors to decide whether Arias eligible for lethal injection.

Tonight, Jodi Arias as never seen before, the jailhouse interview. Arias begins (sic) the meeting, the meeting that changed everything, the day she meets her soon-to-be murder victim, Travis Alexander.


ARIAS: I guess that`s really all I needed. Sorry. Don`t roll the tape yet!

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Jodi, how did you meet Travis and when?

ARIAS: We met at the Rain Forest Cafe in the MGM Grand in Las Vegas.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: How long ago was that?

ARIAS: It was in September of 2006.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: What was it about him when you saw him that kind of drew you to him?

ARIAS: You know, there wasn`t really any initial magnetic attraction. At the time, I shook his hand. He said, Hi, I`m Travis. I said, Hi, I`m Jodi. And his name was just another of many names that I had to remember. I was meeting hundreds of people that weekend. We were all there for a big convention.

And so it was right after I had finished eating with a group of people, and we got up and shook hands with a few people. He was among them. And then we began to walk throughout the casino, and he made it a point to keep walking next to me and keep me engaged in conversation. And we just -- you know, by the time we made it around to the big gold line in the front of the lobby, we just -- we had discovered a couple of common interests and that sort of thing.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: How did your friendship develop (ph) to more?

ARIAS: Well, we hung out throughout the weekend, had a lot of fun, exchanged phone numbers. And it was one of those things where I didn`t expect him to call, but he called me the very next day. And so it was, like, Oh, hi. And you know, we just -- he`s a good conversationalist. He just kept me engaged in conversation constantly, and you know, he wanted to know about me, and people like to talk about themselves, so you know, it was just -- one thing led to another and we became great friends.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Did you two work together?

ARIAS: We worked together on occasion. We were with the same company, but we sort of worked in different departments.


ARIAS: Yes, we went -- we met at a convention where our company was.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: You mentioned that you guys loved to travel together. Tell me a little bit about where you traveled.

ARIAS: We traveled to -- the first major place we traveled to was the Grand Canyon. We went there on a few occasions, Havasupi (ph) with some friends, and we went to Sedona. We went all over New Mexico. We saw the Carlsbad caverns. We saw Roswell. We saw the balloon fiesta. We went to a spa that was kind of renowned in Santa Fe.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Why was he a good traveling companion?

ARIAS: Oh, he was a great traveling companion for many reasons. Traveling with Travis was kind of like traveling with your own personal comedian or serenader or philosopher. He always, you know, had great things to talk about that would make you think. And he was always bursting out in song, and he was a very funny guy. So there was never a shortage of laughs. And so he was just a great person to travel with.

He had an enthusiasm, a lust for life, that -- you know, he always wanted to see what was around the next corner, and so I think that was something that we both shared.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Can you talk a little bit about your faith? I know you had mentioned in a previous interview that he actually baptized you.

ARIAS: He did.


ARIAS: Yes, the reason -- when a person is baptized into the church, they generally are able to choose the person they like to baptize them. And the reason I chose Travis was because he was very instrumental in bringing me into the church, and he was the first person to share the gospel with me and give me a copy of the Book of Mormon. And he challenged me to read it, and I did.

And you know, it was a decision that I made, and I could tell he was very honored when I asked him. And he, you know, of course was happy to do so. So baptizing I think is a really -- it`s a sacred thing.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: How did your friendship grow into this relationship that you shared?

ARIAS: We just continued -- we lived -- I lived in Palm Desert, California. He lived in Mesa. So our friendship was really over the phone. Every night, you know, when all was said and done, when his day`s work was done and my day`s work was done, you know, he would inevitably call and we would talk for a while, anywhere from, you know, a half hour, or sometimes it would end up being four hours, and we`d fall asleep, and things like that.

And then you know, with time, it just kind of progressed into a little bit more and a little bit more until we decided to make it more official.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: And then you two actually ended up moving in together, didn`t you.

ARIAS: No, we never lived together, actually. I spent a lot of time at his house and we spent a lot of time traveling, but no. He had all male roommates.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: OK. All right. I must (INAUDIBLE) Tell us about Travis`s faith.

ARIAS: Travis is a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. He became more active in the church when he was about 16 years old. And you know, he told me that, you know, he began to -- really began to question things. And that`s when, you know, when he prayed about it. That`s when he knew that that was the path that he wanted to take in his life, and he was determined to go on a mission and that sort of thing.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: You admired that in him, didn`t you?

ARIAS: I admired that because, yes, he was a very determined person. When he set his mind to something, he set out to achieve it. I`m a little bit more of a procrastinator. He would live his life by lists, and he really enjoyed checking those off. It gave him a sense of accomplishment, and I think it really kept him focused. And he`d tend to accomplish more in one day than some people do in a month.

So you know, one day, it would be, I think I want to paint this room, and I would come over the next day, and it was painted. You know, he wouldn`t put things off.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: You mentioned that you`d really respected his opinion.

ARIAS: I did, yes, especially when it came to just knowledge of the gospel, things like that. All of that, all of the resources that one needs can be found on a Web site, like, But he kind of gave me a more personal perspective on things. There were some questions where I was just, like, Why? Why this? Why this? And he was able to answer those.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Were you in love with Travis?

ARIAS: I think that being in love and loving someone are two different things, and there was a point in time where we were in love, but it was short-lived.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Why did you guys break up?

ARIAS: There was sort of a breach of trust in our relationship.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: On your part or his part?

ARIAS: Both.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Did you guys move past it?

ARIAS: No, not -- we really couldn`t move past it and...

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: But you guys managed to keep dating.

ARIAS: We didn`t date per se. We just hung out.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: (INAUDIBLE) were you interested in different people, he was interested in different people? How did you...

ARIAS: There was -- yes. We did eventually move on in that regard. And I think that it was hard to fully move on, I think, because we continued to spend a little bit too much time together on occasion. But yes, we did.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: So from the time you met and the time you developed this friendship into a relationship, how long were you guys together as a couple?

ARIAS: I`d say a period of five months. It was...


ARIAS: I`m sorry.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: You said a period of five months. And talk to us about those five months. What were those five months like?

ARIAS: They were a lot of fun. You know, there was a sense of uncertainty at times and there was a sense of excitement and there was an excitement about the future. And we just had a lot of fun together, and it was one of those things where it was very fun while it lasted. And when we decided to break things off and become just friends, we continued to be friends, and that`s just how it went.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Was there jealousy on the part of both of you guys or...

ARIAS: I would say on my end, not so much jealousy. Maybe a sense of insecurity, but that`s just me. On his end, sometimes. I don`t think it was warranted, but I took it as a compliment.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I was reading, I think it might have been his last note to you, May 1st this year, and it said, you know, you`re one of the hottest people he knew and you must be making your town a lot hotter for being there.

ARIAS: Oh, yes. He said the hot quota, or status or -- I don`t remember what he said. He made some comment, yes.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Did he bring (ph) you up a lot?

ARIAS: I don`t know.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Was he able to bring your spirits up, I mean?

ARIAS: Oh, yes, yes, yes. He was very uplifting, very uplifting person. He had every -- he knew every one of my buttons. He could bring me up or down, you know, at the drop of a hat, but mostly he brought me up.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Were there problems with -- the problems in your relationship in those five months start pretty much immediately, or was it three months into it or -- kind of help us understand that.

ARIAS: It was pretty much -- our relationship -- it was just an average -- I don`t want to say average. Nothing is average with Travis. But any problems that we had, they occurred really right toward the end, and that signaled the end of our relationship. It was nothing that we continued to dwell on and try to work out.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: What was the one thing that finally you said, This is it, or he said it?

ARIAS: It was -- it was just a breach of trust.


GRACE: When we come back, more rare footage of Jodi Arias never seen.


GRACE: Now, keep in mind, during this interview, Jodi Arias maintains she wasn`t even in town when Alexander brutally slaughtered. Arias spews lie after lie, trying to convince the media she`s innocent.


ARIAS: I really don`t remember the day at all. I just remember when I got the phone call. And it was late, 10:30, I think.


ARIAS: A mutual friend of ours.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: And what did he or she say?

ARIAS: He didn`t say much. He didn`t know much. And he just said, Something has happened and I don`t have a lot of details. And I said, Well, what can you tell me? And again, I just don`t have a lot of details. And I thought, Well, maybe it`s a mistake. Are you sure? And he said, I`ll let you know when I know more, but you`re the first person I thought to call.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: What was going through your mind?

ARIAS: It was a shock, a feeling of shock and sort of disbelief. And there wasn`t -- it was a real restlessness because I didn`t know. And I felt -- I don`t know, I just don`t know until I actually got confirmation of what had happened. That`s when things really began to sink in.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: What did you do at that point? Once you got more information, what did you do?

ARIAS: It was over the phone, and so I just remained as calm as possible. And well, I got confirmation from his bishop, who actually confirmed it. And at that point, it was just about me holding it together over the phone and crying as silently as possible while he told me what he knew. And then I hung up with him and -- and...

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Were you here in town, or were you...

ARIAS: I was in Yreka, California.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: When was the last time that you saw Travis?

ARIAS: It was some time in early June.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: How far apart is that, do you remember?

ARIAS: I don`t remember exactly, but it was very close to.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: You had mentioned in an interview before this the pictures that were found and recovered of the two of you. (INAUDIBLE) you were mentioning what was on those pictures. The detective did show you one. Can you explain?

ARIAS: He -- well, it`s not -- it`s -- it`s all public information, but it`s nothing that I`m really comfortable talking about, and it`s nothing that he nor I ever intended to be made public. It`s something that we intended to keep private.

But now that all of this has been thrust under a microscope, everybody knows about it, so part of it -- part of me says, Why bother trying to skirt around the issue? And then another part of me says, you know, Have a little discretion.

But again, it`s public information, and they`re just photos that we took and that we deleted with the intention of -- and that wasn`t -- that wasn`t a one-time incident. I mean, there were many times where, you know...

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: You took pictures?

ARIAS: Yes, pictures, whatever, and any kind of media, and it was deleted because it`s just something that we didn`t intend to ever keep.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Can you talk about some of your love for photography, and just in general, the type of photography that you did?

ARIAS: Yes. I`ve loved photography since I can remember, since I got my first camera. I`ve taken pictures of everything you could think of. And I think what I really began to enjoy and settle in on was people. I really enjoy nature and sunsets, but people and their expressions, moments, especially weddings, when, you know, you can just see expressions on people`s faces and emotional moments. I love capturing that sort of thing.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Jodi, why do you think investigators believe that you killed Travis?

ARIAS: Well, there`s a lot of forensics suggesting that I was, you know, in his house. Of the evidence that they presented to me, I was asked the question, If you were presented this evidence and you were a third party, what would you think? And you know, I need to be honest and the evidence is very compelling, but none of it proves that I committed a murder. None of it proves that I committed a crime. What it does substantiate is what I did tell detectives.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Did you -- I have to ask you this. Did you kill Travis Alexander?

ARIAS: Absolutely not. No. I had no part in it.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Did he have any enemies at all?

ARIAS: To my knowledge, no. He was -- he had a strong personality, but he was very well liked and loved. I just can`t think of a single soul.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: So you had nothing to do with Travis Alexander`s...

ARIAS: Nothing to do with it.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: (INAUDIBLE) he was stabbed some 27 times and shot once in the left cheek. What -- who could have done this to him?

ARIAS: I don`t know.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Who do you think killed him?

ARIAS: I have no idea.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Do you think that it was a random thing or somebody that knew him? I mean, this is a guy that you were pretty close to.

ARIAS: This is a guy I was close to, at a time when we were really trying to move apart from each other. So I mean, there were certain details about his life that I never did know about. And there were even more details that I did not know about, as well as details about my life that he didn`t know about because I had moved on. I had moved to California.

So we were making a sincere effort to grow apart and to be apart and to move on. But nonetheless, he did remain a close friend of mine, and I just can`t think of anyone.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: In police reports for the Mesa Police Department, it states that some of his family and his friends told detectives that you had become obsessed with Travis. Is that true?

ARIAS: His family and friends said that?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: According to the police report.

ARIAS: Well, I think that -- I`ve only met his grandmother, so I don`t think that`s accurate at all for his family to say. But I think that if I were in their shoes, I would be going very much off of what police were telling me.

I don`t -- I wouldn`t use obsession. I would say -- I don`t know. I think that when more evidence comes out, it`ll be very telling that it was a two-way street. And Travis was a wonderful person, but he was also very persuasive and he was hard to say no to and it was hard.

You know, he wouldn`t allow me to not answer his text message. If I didn`t respond, he would keep calling and keep calling until I did. And so to me, that wasn`t obsessive behavior on his part. It was just -- I just took it as a compliment. He wanted to talk to me? OK, that`s great.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: But were you obsessed with him? Because those are the allegations they make.

ARIAS: No. No, not at all.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Jodi, you`re pretty calm sitting here. Somebody who`s been arrested, accused of murdering somebody, how are you managing to stay so calm?

ARIAS: Through my faith and through the knowledge of my own innocence. That`s the only thing. I would be shaking in my boots right now if I had to answer to God for such a heinous crime. But I`m very grateful that this is one thing that I will never have to answer to when I sit -- when I stand or when I sit -- when I`m before the judgment seat some day and all of my actions, my thoughts, my words, the things I`ve done and said are called into account, you know, this is not one of those things that will be brought up.

I`ve done many things that are shameful, but this is not one of them.


GRACE: Coming up, fingers start pointing at Jodi Arias. Arias responds in her own words.


GRACE: Well, to hear Arias tell it, it`s hard to have her freedom taken away for something she didn`t do. But notice, when confronted if the relationship with Travis was ever violent, Arias takes a pass. That`s not what happened at trial. Take a look.


UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: There was a gun. Did you have a gun? Did Travis have a gun?

ARIAS: To my knowledge, it was, like, a .25-caliber gun. I did own a gun. It was a .9-millimeter, though, and it had never been fired. It was a brand-new gun.

But when my freedom is taken away for something that I didn`t do, that`s difficult to accept. And when I think of the ones who are capable of doing this -- you know, I like to think that I could be the bigger person, and you know, what I believe -- and this is something that comes from my faith, my religion -- is that it`s commanded of us to forgive all people.

And I don`t know that I would be big enough to stand before the person who did this and say, I forgive you. I don`t think I`m ready for that by any means. But I think that one day, I`ll reach that point as I grow and develop.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: But to know that this report is basically pointing all the blame to you, it`s as if police have stopped investigating anyone else.

ARIAS: Yes, and that really bothers me.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Do you think you`re being set up or framed or anything like that?

ARIAS: I can`t think of any enemies that I might have that would want to do that. I think -- no, I don`t think that.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Was the relationship ever violent?

ARIAS: Pass on that question.


GRACE: Next, you`ve seen the jailhouse interview, but how does it match up with Arias`s other stories?



UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: You yourself said that some of the evidence that investigators have is damning (INAUDIBLE) How are you able -- how are you going to move past that? How are you going to get beyond this and prove your innocence?

ARIAS: That`s just -- that`s a defense strategy that we`ll have to work out.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Why did you want to speak out today?

ARIAS: I kind of feel like since I`ve been incarcerated, it`s almost like there`s been a proverbial duct tape over my mouth and I haven`t been able to say anything. There have been a lot of people that have been speaking out and saying things, you know, on their side. And there isn`t - - this isn`t a -- this isn`t a two-sided story. This is a multi-faceted story. There are many sides to this story. And I just don`t feel like mine has been represented.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Why do you think family and friends started pointing the finger at you?

ARIAS: I don`t know who did or said it first, but I know that some things were said because I was -- I was on the road that week. So you know, I think that because as much as Travis and I told ourselves and everyone that we were just friends, I think that our behavior was not as clandestine as we tried to make it. So, there were times when people would see certain ways we would behave and maybe wonder. I know that he got -- he lamented a lot that he got a lot of grief from his friends about the amount of time that we spent together and ..

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Did they not like you?

ARIAS: I don`t know that it was so much that. I think they were more concerned with his future prospects for marriage and where his focus was. And his focus definitely was on that, and marriage -- he viewed marriage as an important step in his spiritual progression, and I think he took it seriously, but you know.


GRACE: You saw Jodi Arias maintain in this rare interview she wasn`t even in the state when Alexander was slaughtered, but her story shifts under intense police interrogation. Watch her new story and her bizarre behavior while she is being questioned by police.


ARIAS: I didn`t recognize any of them.

POLICE: Well, you have to give me a motive. Why would they do this? Were they going after Travis? For what reason? You tell me this, but you give me no reason.

ARIAS: They didn`t discuss much. They just argued.

POLICE: About what?

ARIAS: About whether or not to kill me.

POLICE: For what reason?

ARIAS: Because I`m a witness.

POLICE: A witness of what?

ARIAS: Him. Of Travis.

POLICE: Of Travis`s murder?

ARIAS: Yeah, but I didn`t really witness it. I didn`t see much. It was -- I just, um .

POLICE: You need to make this believable, because it is not believable to me right now. You need to give me something.

ARIAS: OK. I just. Listen.

POLICE: I am listening, Jodi. I am listening, and it doesn`t make any sense to me. You know who they are, if you`re telling me the truth.

ARIAS: I -- I don`t know them.

POLICE: And I don`t believe you, either, and I can`t. You can`t expect me to. Why would they do this to him? What were they arguing about? What did they say, their details?

ARIAS: They didn`t say a lot. They were white Americans, from what I could tell. They had, um -- what do you call those things? They`re like beanies, but they cover your whole face? They`ve got like holes for your nose and your mouth and your eyes. And they were -- one was black. I think they were both black or maybe dark blue or something.

POLICE: What happened when the last picture was taken?

ARIAS: He was kneeling down in the shower. I don`t remember if he, like, if this is his shower and the sink is over here, I was like right here taking pictures. And I don`t really know what happened after that exactly, except I think he was shot.

POLICE: Where were you?

ARIAS: If this is his shower, and he`s sitting here, I was like -- well, if this is his shower, he`s sitting here. I was like right here on my knees and his bathtub was right here and I was taking them here and I was just going through the pictures and I heard this loud ring. And I don`t really remember except Travis was screaming. I think I got knocked out, but I don`t think I was out long. He was screaming and I was by the bathtub. He was holding his head, and there were two people there, and .

POLICE: What did you see?

ARIAS: Um, I remember putting my hand on his back, because he was on all four of his knees. He was like on his knees, like this, doing something like this or something like, I don`t know. And I was just like, are you OK? What`s going on? What`s going on? He`s like, go get help, go get help. And I said OK, and I turned around, and there were two people there. One is a guy and one is a girl. I couldn`t tell that at first, but I could just tell one was a girl and I assume the other was a guy because of their build and their voices. I don`t remember what they were wearing, like maybe jeans.

POLICE: What did they say?

ARIAS: One was in all black. One was in jeans.

POLICE: Did they say anything?

ARIAS: Yeah, the girl wanted to kill me, too.

POLICE: What did she say? What words did you hear? What phrases?

ARIAS: Um, who is that? Who is that? I thought he was by himself or alone or something. And he was like, shut up, just finish it. And Travis was screaming the whole time. He wasn`t screaming like a girl. He was just like, like he was in pain, like he was like shocked, like, uhhh, you know?

POLICE: You took off?

ARIAS: I ran and he stopped me, but I .

POLICE: Who stopped you?

ARIAS: Travis. He was, um, he was still like conscious and still alive, and .

POLICE: You just left him there?

ARIAS: No. I ran into the closet, because there`s like two doors and they were sort of in the hallway already. And he stopped me and he didn`t touch me. He was just held the gun to my head, and he was like, you don`t go anywhere. And he told the other girl -- I didn`t see, but he was like, I don`t think he was saying a lot, but, and I just rushed her and I pushed her, and there`s .

POLICE: There`s what?

ARIAS: Travis was bleeding everywhere.

POLICE: What was she doing to him? Because he had been shot at this time, right?

ARIAS: Yeah, but he was still alive.

POLICE: Mm-hmm.

ARIAS: He was still conscious, even, like .

POLICE: Still talking?

ARIAS: Oh, he wasn`t talking or saying much, but I could tell he was breathing. He seemed like he was breathing calmly, I think. He wasn`t like -- he was just there. I can`t really remember. It`s such a blur.

POLICE: OK, so you did what now? You pushed her?

ARIAS: Hmm. She`s bigger, a little bit bigger than me, not really in size but height.

POLICE: Then what happened?

ARIAS: That didn`t really deter her.

POLICE: Did she have any weapons on her at all?

ARIAS: Yeah.

POLICE: What`d she have?

ARIAS: She -- I thought she was the one with the gun. Maybe she had the gun, but she had a gun. So whatever there were two guns, (INAUDIBLE) I don`t know.

POLICE: But she`s the one who shot him, right? She was the one here. He was back here at the time when you saw them?


GRACE: When we come back, Arias, Jodi Arias in her own words on the stand trying to save herself.



UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Could you explain that your DNA was found at the murder scene?

ARIAS: Um, well, I spent a lot of time at his house. But because it`s more than just that kind of DNA, there is an explanation for all of that, and that will all be made known very soon. Again, it doesn`t prove that I committed a murder, and I didn`t commit a murder. I didn`t hurt Travis. I would never hurt Travis, would never harm him physically. I may have hurt him emotionally, and I will always regret that, but, you know, the explanation for that will all come out soon.


GRACE: She wasn`t there. She was there, but is attacked by masked ninjas. She had to kill Travis Alexander in self-defense. The excuses keep changing. Listen as Jodi Arias tries to explain away lie after lie under oath.


UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Did you kill Travis Alexander on June 4th, 2008?

ARIAS: Yes, I did.


ARIAS: The simple answer is that he attacked me and I defended myself.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Do you remember stabbing Travis Alexander?

ARIAS: I have no memory of stabbing him.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Do you remember dragging him across the floor?

ARIAS: No. I just remember trying to get away from him.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You told us that after running away from him, you don`t have any clear memories of what happened after that. Until hours later, right?

ARIAS: I have a few memories, but nothing`s clear.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: So, tell us about those memories.

ARIAS: I have a vague memory of putting the knife in the dishwasher, but I put the knife in the dishwasher before, so I don`t -- I`m pretty sure it was that day. I remember I was in the bathroom. I remember dropping the knife, and it clang to the tile, it made a big noise. And I just remember screaming. I don`t remember anything after that, not immediately.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Do you remember where he was when you were screaming?

ARIAS: I think he was next to me on the floor. I don`t know.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Do you know where you were?

ARIAS: I was in the bathroom.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: What else do you remember?

ARIAS: Not much.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Not much, meaning nothing?

ARIAS: I just -- it`s not -- I remember more the feeling of that time, not pictures and things that I can bring back.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Tell us about the feeling.

ARIAS: It was like mortal terror. It was like he -- I pissed him off the worst I had ever seen him pissed off and then I tried to stop him and then I pissed him off even more, and I thought, [ CENSORED], I`ve really, really pissed him off. And he was angry at me and he wasn`t going to stop.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: What do you mean by he wasn`t going to stop?

ARIAS: He wasn`t going to stop. He wasn`t stopping. He was .

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: When you say he wasn`t going to stop, did you feel that he was going to kill you?

ARIAS: For sure, when he said "Kill you," yes. He almost killed me before, and now he was saying he was going to.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: So, when he said that to you, you believed him because of past incidents?

ARIAS: Objection, leading.


UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Why did you believe him when he said "Kill you, bitch"?

ARIAS: Because he`d never said that before, and he`d taken me almost to that point without that threat, and now he was clearly making that threat.


GRACE: Next, Jodi Arias digs in on the witness stand in her own defense.



UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Your hair follicle was found.

ARIAS: There is an explanation for that. And, you know, it will be made known very soon.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Is there anything you would say to his friends or family? Anything you would say to them?

ARIAS: Yeah. I -- there are so many things that I`d hike to say to them, and I just -- I don`t think that they are -- they in any way would hike to hear it, or that they`re in any position to even want to receive it. But I`ve said this before, and I continue to pray for this, and that is that I hope they can find peace.


GRACE: Abuse. She has the opportunity to address it in the rare interview we just aired. But what does Jodi Arias say? I`ll take a pass. Now, when Arias is trying to save her own skin, she doesn`t want to take a pass. Oh, no. She goes on and on about unsubstantiated claims of physical abuse. Beatings that nobody else ever knew about. No police report, no photos, nothing but the testimony of Jodi Arias herself.


ARIAS: I didn`t want people to know the level of violence that our relationship had reached at a couple of points, and I thought, again, that that would be construed as a possible reason for me having killed him. I knew there were some things that were already known and in evidence. And so I figured I`ll just give them a brief mention because she had asked about them. They were in police reports or something like that that she had read. So I didn`t tell about all these graphic things that we`d done or I just sort of hinted at it, like we were just two adults and things were consensual and it was what it was. I would have never called the police on Travis. I couldn`t imagine doing something like that. It would have felt like treachery. I wouldn`t have betrayed him like that. I was loyal to him.


GRACE: When we come back, Jodi Arias found guilty of murder one. Her first move? A TV interview.


GRACE: We remember American hero, Army Specialist Brandon Meyer, 20, Orange, California. Bronze Star, Purple Heart. Parents Terry and Gina (ph). Sister, Desiree. Widow, Katelyn (ph). Brandon Meyer, American hero.

And now back to the Jodi Arias trial. Within just moments of being found guilty of murder one, Jodi Arias gives an interview on camera to KSAZ, but notice how even after she`s convicted of murdering Travis, Jodi Arias continues to take shots at her murder victim, Travis Alexander.


UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Do you still think about Travis?



ARIAS: There`s a lot of regret, because I was really hoping to get a plea and avoid talking about all of the things that came out about him. If we had been able to avoid trial, we could have avoided just the murkier aspects of his life that he kept hidden. And these aren`t just things that came from my mouth, they are his own words, his own e-mails, his own text messages, the activities that he was up to, photographs that show that as well. None of that ever would have come to light. It would have just been forgotten, and he would have been memorialized as not perfect by any means, but somebody who was known to adhere to his morals and the principles that he espoused. But now the curtain has been drawn. And you can see the hypocrisy and everything that was there, and I regret that, because I know that even though he was living the life of a hypocrite, that`s not how he was wanted to be perceived, and I think inside he really didn`t want to live that kind of life.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: A lot of people had real issues with the pedophilia, when that was brought up. How do you respond to that?

ARIAS: Well, again, I mean, he`s fantasizing about having sex with a 12-year-old on the tape. That`s a pedophile by definition. There`s a photograph on my hard drive, which my attorneys didn`t feel was relevant, but it`s a picture of him chasing around a naked four year old boy with his Bible open, pretending to be a Catholic priest. I don`t know why. We were all hanging out. I thought it was silly at the time and I snapped the photograph. And at the time I just thought he was mocking the Catholic Church in poor taste. And then that was that. But that was a year before I walked in on him. And so after that incident of walking in on him, I began to put all these things together, and that was one of the puzzle pieces that seemed to make sense to me.


GRACE: Everyone, thank you for being with us. I`ll see you tomorrow night 8:00 sharp Eastern. And until then, good night, friend.