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NSA Leaker: You're Being Watched; Has Apple Lost its "Cool"; Super Glue Save Baby's Life; Diamondbacks Draft Paralyzed Player; John Malkovich Helps Save Man.

Aired June 10, 2013 - 13:30   ET

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EDWARD SNOWDEN, LEAKED DETAILS OF NSA SURVEILLANCE: The NSA specifically targets the communications of everyone. It ingests them by default. It collects them in its system and filters and analyzes them and it measures them and it stores them for periods of time simply because that's the easiest, most efficient and most valuable way to achieve these ends.

So while they may be intending to target someone associated with a foreign government or someone that they suspect of terrorism, they are collecting your communications to do so.

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SUZANNE MALVEAUX, CNN ANCHOR: I want to bring in clinical forensic psychologist, Jeff Gardere.

Jeff, good to see you.

I've been listening to his interview all day. He talks about himself sometimes in the third person and he says he wanted to perform this public service, if you will. Does it sound like he's full of himself? Does it sound like he's been sincere when he decided to leave his old life behind to give us this information, to leak this information?

JEFF GARDERE, CLINICAL FORENSIC PSYCHOLOGIST: It seems to me he's being totally sincere because he's done something that some people consider courageous, others consider cowardly, but it's something that he's done that is astounding. He has kissed his old life away. And for doing that, completely changed his life around. I believe he's operating on pure adrenaline and knows his life will never be the same again.

Suzanne, that being said, yes, perhaps he believes the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few, and he had to tell America and the world about this, but I believe, as you alluded to, there's some personal things going on with this individual that may have led him to doing something so incredibly drastic.

MALVEAUX: We understand he's in a hotel and ordering room service. His credit card may not be working for much longer. He's going to run out of money. Now he's separated from his family, worried about his family as well. It doesn't sound like he had a long-term game plan. What kind of personality is driven to doing something like this?

GARDERE: When we look at his personality, this is a guy who only had a GED. Not well educated but maybe somewhat of a programming or computer savant that's he's been able o work his way into the situation that he was in as far as having the job, having the security clearance, making six figures and so on. Obviously, he's bright. But it speaks to someone perhaps who was understated for a long time, very rebellious, did things in a different way, very low key, and somehow along the way, started gaining the courage to decide to make a complete change of his life to awaken that giant within, if I may say that. But certainly he's having a very early mid-life crisis by doing something like this that is so remarkable and so over the top.

MALVEAUX: Is he rare? Are there people like him or aspire to be like this personality?

GARDERE: There are other people who want to be like this. He wants to be like other people. Part of what's going on is he feels that this is his way of being able to change his life completely, to be able to do something where he never has to look back again, but he has put other people in danger and he said he's done this. So in some ways, it's very impulsive, not well thought out, and may speak to a very impulsive personality.

MALVEAUX: Jeff, he said he doesn't believe he's done anything wrong. He believes he's carrying out a public service. But is there anything that the government or NSA could have seen in this guy to have like pushed him away and think, this one might be trouble?

GARDERE: This is an incredibly great question. We don't know how he got that kind of a clearance, especially working his way in from working security to getting this kind of a job.

I think they should have looked at the fact that he was such an underachiever, but yet had this kind of intelligence and perhaps rebellious type of personality. Red flags should have gone off everywhere. Someone did not do their homework. This guy got a pass all the way to the top. Really interesting.

MALVEAUX: Jeff Gardere.

Thank you, Jeff. Really interesting. Fascinating case. We'll be following it.

A lot of people are just trying to figure out why he chose to leak all the classified information. But one of the most famous leakers ever said Snowden is really a courageous man. Daniel Ellsberg was once called the most dangerous man in America for his role in 1971 Pentagon Papers leak. Those documents showed, that the Congress lied to Congress and the public about the Vietnam War. Ellsberg says he's been waiting decades for someone like Snowden.

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DANIEL ELLSBERG, PENTAGON PAPERS LEAKER: I'm very impressed by what I've heard in the last couple of however, including Snowden's own video here. I think he's done an enormous service, incalculable service. It can't be overestimated to this democracy. It gives us a chance, I think, from drawing back from the total surveillance state that we could say we are in the process of becoming, I'm afraid we have be come. That's what he revealed. I really didn't expect that there was any chance of reversing that course toward what was called earlier "total information" where there's total surveillance. I think if the public now is given authentic documents, official documents that Congress simply can't plausibly deny or claim ignorance of, maybe we will see hearings with genuine oversight that can rein in this extremely abusive surveillance program.

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MALVEAUX: By the way, the espionage case against Ellsberg was eventually thrown out after the judge learned that the government had illegally wiretapped him.

The question: Has Apple lost its "cool" factor? A year ago, the company seemed invincible. But other companies are catching up. We'll find out if Apple has new products that may help it get its "cool" back.

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MALVEAUX: Apple fans and investors are watching and waiting. Apple holding a worldwide developers conference in San Francisco today. They want to see if, of course, we're going to unveil something else, one of its products, one of those ground-breaking gadgets.

Alison Kosik is joining us.

I know the conference is going on as we speak. I got my little device here, my iPhone.

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Do we expect anything to come out of this?

ALISON KOSIK, CNN BUSINESS CORRESPONDENT: There are a lot of expectations. Let me take you through what's happening. About 40 minutes ago, this conference kicked off. The senior vice president of software engineering, he's talking about some changes to the web browser Safari. Earlier, when this thing got started, Tim Cook took the stage. He gave the keynote address. He began with the new operating system for Mac. OSS Maverick is the new name for it. Old versions have been named for big cats. It was called the Leopard, the Mountain Lion. Apple says they run out of cats. It's switching to California-themed names.

What we doing is waiting for more big reveals. But here's what we expect. One potential game changer could be a new streaming digital radio service that's making Pandora and Spotifi (ph) very nervous. It could be called iRadio. And rumor is it would be free to those who use it because it would be supported by ads. Apple says it would use its Genius program to choose songs that are based what's already in your iTune's library, which means it wouldn't require you to input a lot of stuff. Also expected, an update to IOS mobile operating system. Its Mac Book line up is supposed to be refreshed, at least that's what we're hearing, and possibly an update to Apple TV -- Suzanne?

MALVEAUX: I know the stock hasn't been doing all that. We've been having this discussion with our own team. Seems like the younger folks likes the alternatives. Seems like Apple lost its "cool." Is that true?

KOSIK: Well, it's seen better days. That's what many people say, yeah, it's lost its "cool." You think about the brand, Apple was built on the brand of being an innovator, a trend setter. People are waiting to see the newest, coolest, latest device. It hasn't shown that. It's had the second and third sort of tier versions of its original products. Investors recognize it. That's why the stock has gotten hit. It's down 17 percent this past year. Down 34 percent since September when Apple unveiled the iPhone 5, the last time Apple made a big announcement like this. And no new iPhones are expected this time around. Investors are shaky about that. Still, the stock is up a little over 1 percent right now -- Suzanne?

MALVEAUX: All right, we'll be watching.

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Thanks, Alison.

Check this out, a surgical Super Glue. How doctors in Kansas used a special adhesive to save the life of a 3-week-old baby, up next.

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MALVEAUX: Remember the letter laced with ricin sent to the president and the New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg last month? A Texas actress is accused of mailing those letters. The FBI arrested Shannon Richardson. Richardson has had minor roles in TV series, including "The Walking Dead" and "The Vampire Diaries." Authorities say she admitted sending the letters but she says her husband forced her to do it. Her husband said she lied to the FBI and he has now filed for a divorce. Investigators say Richardson is also pregnant. She faces 10 years in prison if convicted.

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MALVEAUX: I always love those pics. It took 200 pounds of dynamite to bring that down, the building in New York Harbor. The 11 stories structure was built in 1905. It was the tallest non-historic building on Governor's Island. It used to house Coast Guard personnel and their families. It's been vacant about a decade or so. Look at that, unbelievable, the power of that. They are replacing this now with a park that will have a scenic view of the Statue of Liberty. Prince Harry showing off a little bit his piloting skills. This is an air show in England. It happened over the weekend. I want you to watch.

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MALVEAUX: There it goes, upside down. You might remember that Harry is an Apache helicopter pilot in the British Air Force. Has even done a couple of tours of duty in Afghanistan. He flew in the show as part of the army attack helicopter display team.

Remarkable story about doctors who save a baby girl's life by using a kind of surgical Super Glue. This is little Ashlyn. She was so tiny that doctors had to come up with a unique way to treat her, and they did.

Christine Romans has the story.

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CHRISTINE ROMANS, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Doctors are crediting what they call surgical Super Glue for saving the life of this three and a half-week-old girl.

Ashlyn Julian was born with a rare and life-threatening condition. Her mother didn't know what the problem was but she knew something wasn't right.

GINA JULIAN, MOTHER OF ASHLYN: We go from a baby who was quiet to a one who is a screaming and screaming and throwing up. We knew something's not right. Something is wrong.

ROMANS: She rushed her daughter to the emergency room for a second time in hopes of finding answers.

JULIAN: The ultrasound was as far as we made it because they saw something in her head at that point and time and decided to transport her to a hospital that was better equipped for what was going on.

ROMANS: Doctors at the University of Kansas Hospital found a brain aneurysm, the size of an almond on a blood vessel that is as thin as angel hair pasta. Then, a race against the clock to stop the bleeding. Bleeding in the brain in infants is so rare in infants that there aren't tools for the procedure. Her surgeon instead used a micro catheter as thin as a strand of hair to access the aneurysm.

DR. KOJI EBERSOLE, ENDOVASCULAR NEUROSURGEON: The only way I could close that aneurysm with that small of an instrument was to use the glue.

ROMANS: Dr. Koji Ebersole was able to deposit this sterile glue, sealing the blood vessel. That's right. Surgical Super Glue stopped the bleeding.

EBERSOLE: If you try to treat the baby without closing the aneurysm, meaning conservative treatment, support the baby and hope that the blood vessel will heal itself, most of those babies can't survive. We had a strong reason to develop a plan to close the aneurysm.

JULIAN: Every day, she seems more like herself. She's much happier.

ROMANS: Doctors are pleased with the results.

EBERSOLE: We're thrilled. The breathing tube was taken out the very next day. I did not know she would be ready that fast. I think she's been making steady strides since. We're all very happy.

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MALVEAUX: Good for her. The doctor says they will be keeping a close eye on her in the coming months. He doesn't think she'll have anymore problems with that aneurysm. Really, quite amazing.

A one-month-old baby elephant found in a well. This is in Thailand. Its mother and 30 elephants were moving through the area when the baby got stuck. Villagers contacted a wildlife rescue team that helped the struggling calf escape, and it eventually rejoined the herd. Nice.

He'll never get to play professional baseball, but that didn't stop one mayor league team from drafting this inspirational player.

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MALVEAUX: Wow. 12-year-old Jilly Dale is considered good luck for the Miami Heat. Check this out. The team has an 18-2 record whenever she sings the National Anthem.

Andy Scholes has the game highlights in the "Bleacher Report."

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ANDY SCHOLES, BLEACHERREPORT.COM: Hey, Suzanne. With the series shifting to San Antonio, last night's game was one the Heat really had to have. This game was close for more than three quarters. Lebron had only four points in the first half. He came alive in the third quarter. Check out this incredible block. One of the best blocks you'll ever see. That was during a 33-5 run by the Heat. Miami, they would go on to win this game easily, 103-84, to even the series. Lebron finished with only 17 points but he was dominant on the defensive end of the floor.

LEBRON JAMES, MIAMI HEAT: That's just part of my game. When I'm not scoring or I'm not as efficient offensively, when I feel I'm missing some shots, I just figure out ways that I can still help the team even if it's not scoring as much.

SCHOLES: Number two in the lineup on Bleacherreport.com, the scary moment from yesterday's French Open final between Rafael Nadal and David Ferrer. A protester came running onto the court. He was immediately grabbed by security and escorted away. Nadal said he was a bit scared at first but it didn't keep him from dominating the match. Nadal won in straight sets. He is now an amazing 59-1 all time at Roland Garros.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We proudly and humbly select re-draft number 9577, on 40, center fielder, Arizona State University, hometown Corona, California.

SCHOLES: What a great gesture. Arizona Diamondbacks selected Cory Hahn in the major league draft. He wore the number 34 at Arizona State. And in his second game, he broke his neck sliding into second base and was paralyzed from the chest down. After being selected by the Diamondbacks, Hahn tweeted, "I cannot thank the D'backs enough. So humbled and forever grateful. So honored to be a Diamondback."

That will do it for the "Bleacher Report."

Suzanne, back to you.

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MALVEAUX: Thanks, Andy.

Oscar nominee, John Malkovich, a real-life hero after coming to the rescue of an injured man. We have the details of the rescue, up next.

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JOHN MALKOVICH, ACTOR: Why are you trying to kill me?

UNIDENTIFIED ACTOR: Why would I be trying to kill you?

MALKOVICH: Because the last time we met, I tried to kill you.

UNIDENTIFIED ACTOR: That was a long time ago.

MALKOVICH: Some people hold on to things like that.

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MALVEAUX: John Malkovich is usually not cast as a hero, but he is being credited with helping save a man in real life. He helped a 77- year-old man who tripped on the sidewalk and then slashed his throat on some scaffolding. A witness says Malkovich ran over, applied pressure to the man's neck and waited for an ambulance.

The victim says he had no idea who his savior was until after afterwards.

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JIM WALPOLE, SAVED BY JOHN MALKOVICH: I was facedown and I don't know whether I turned over or the guys turned me over to see where all the blood was coming from, and they just were marvelous. They put pressure on the wound and wouldn't let me move until the rescue squad got here.

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MALVEAUX: Malkovich is currently starring in a play in Toronto. And CNN reached out to him but they haven't gotten the comment just yet.

And it was a star-studded night. This is the Tony Awards. Watch.

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MALVEAUX: That's an odd pairing there. Neil Patrick Harris performing with Mike Tyson. The night was also big for Cyndi Lauper's musical, "Kinky Boots."

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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: The Tony Award goes to --

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Girl, you're going to have fun tonight! Cyndi Lauper!

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MALVEAUX: She won her first Tony. But besides her big win, Lauper won over the audience with her performance of her hit, "True Colors."

That's it for me. Have a great afternoon.

CNN continues with Brooke Baldwin.

BROOKE BALDWIN, CNN ANCHOR: He's behind the leak that sparked this national debate over your privacy. Now the man with access to all of your secrets may be on the run.

I'm Brooke Baldwin. The news is now.

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SNOWDEN: This is the truth. This is what's happening.

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BALDWIN: This former CIA employee says he knows much more than he revealed. How long can he hide?

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JULIAN: At that point, you know something is not right. Something is very wrong. (END VIDEO CLIP)

BALDWIN: Doctors saving an infant's life with Super Glue.