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AROUND THE WORLD
Election Day in Iran; "GIRL RISING:" The Impact of Educating Girls; Interview with Former Prime Minister Gordon Brown; Man Invents App for Shortages; Ringo Starr Gives Tour and Lesson
Aired June 14, 2013 - 12:30 ET
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ERIN BURNETT, HOST, "ERIN BURNETT OUTFRONT": He was originally a fundamentalist, but he's now actually campaigning as a reformer and the cleric has gotten some key endorsements.
Rowhani has talked about being more open, and I asked him campaign manager what exactly that means.
Would he negotiate with the United States?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: If the United States really shows interest in being reliable, actually, this negotiation, I think he will do it, but it doesn't mean at first he will go through that.
BURNETT: We also saw plenty of supporters for Mohammad Ghalibaf, currently the mayor in Tehran.
Campaign posters for the popular mayor feature him side by side with the Ayatollah.
After a rally for Ghalibaf, some young men swarmed up to speak their mind, and for supporters like Mohammad (ph), hope rules the day.
MOHAMMAD (PH) (via translator): The biggest thing has been the sanctions the sanctions that were imposed on our country. They have closed our country, and mismanagement has been a big challenge for this government.
In my opinion, with Ghalibaf, all these problems will be resolved.
SUZANNE MALVEAUX, CNN ANCHOR: You can see more of Erin's reporting from Iran tonight. She's going to be live from Tehran. "ERIN BURNETT OUTFRONT" starts at 7:00 p.m. Eastern.
And coming up, he's on the front lines fighting for a safe place for girls "Around the World" to learn. Former British Prime Minister Gordon Brown is joining us next.
MALVEAUX: The fight for girl's education around the world is intensifying, and CNN is playing a part in bringing you the issues. All this week, we have been airing stories of extraordinary girls and the power of education to change the world. It's ahead of our big CNN premiere of the film, "GIRL RISING."
My next guest is a leader in that fight for girls. Of course, you remember him as the leader of Great Britain, former British Prime Minister Gordon Brown, joining us from Edinburgh, Scotland.
Sir, very good to see you here. We're going to cover a number of things, but of course, one of the things is ...
GORDON BROWN, FORMER BRITISH PRIME MINISTER: Great to talk to you. Suzanne.
MALVEAUX: Great to see you.
Your passion here for girl's education, you call it one of the great human rights issues of our time, and you work as a U.N. special envoy for global education.
Why is this something you believe is a human right and one of the greatest human rights at this time?
BROWN: This is the great civil right struggle of our generation. It is girls discriminated against, prevented from realizing their potential, 30 million girls not able to go to school, girls like Malala Yousufzai, the Pakistan girl who was shot, having to fight every inch of the way even to get a chance to go to school.
And that's why we're under obligation to ensure that, if, as we believe, education breaks the cycle of poverty, we make sure that every girl in the world has that right to go to school.
MALVEAUX: What do you think is the biggest obstacle in your work as you travel the world for these girls in getting an education?
BROWN: There's discrimination. In some countries, girls are simply not allowed to go to school.
There's child labor. Fifteen million children are working when they should be at school.
There are girl brides. Ten million girls are married every year, 12, 13, 14, when they should be at school.
There's trafficking, as you know, but there's also a lack of teachers and a lack of school buildings and a lack of educational materials.
And there are many countries that could actually invest in education that I want to persuade them to do so and end a situation where for years upon years upon years we will still have millions of children, particularly girls, denied the chance of education.
And what I'd like to see is a plan over these next three years until 2015 to get every girl to school.
MALVEAUX: And when you go to those leaders, when you talk to people and you make that case, do you have a receptive audience?
Are you talking to people who say, you know what? I do see the value here, whether it's economic, whether it's political or whether it's just good sense and human rights?
BROWN: Yeah, when Malala was shot in Pakistan, there was a revulsion and people realized that they had been silent when, of course, the case for girls' education is unanswerable.
And there's no leader in the world that is trying to prevent girls going to school, but they are not doing enough to stop other people like the Taliban stopping girls going to school.
So we need them to make education for girls a priority. We need to invest in building schools. It only costs $100 a year to educate a girl in Africa. We need to train the teachers, of course.
We need to build the schools. We need to provide the education materials. And there needs to be a global effort because this is also a security issue. If we do not educate young girls and boys, then they will be prey to people exploiting the fact that they have been denied opportunity.
As a former prime minister, we don't normally have the opportunity to talk to someone in your stature here. I have to ask you about things that are going on in the news.
Of course, it looks like Syria blowing up with this civil war. It was just the White House yesterday saying that the Syrian government has crossed a red line by using chemical weapons. The U.S. could now arm rebels.
What do you think of that as appropriate action? Do you think that would be appropriate? Is that necessary at this time?
BROWN: Well, I think that it is undoubtedly now true that the use of these chemical weapons is actually happening in Syria.
If I may say so, without going into the details of what should happen next, which has to be part of international negotiation and no doubt that will take part in next few days, particularly when the G-8 meets in Britain, we've got to look at the human tragedies here.
And there are many lives being lost. There are many families being displaced. There are a huge number of refugees. There are children denied health care and denied education.
This is a worldwide human tragedy, the effects of which are going to be felt for years to come. And that's one of the reasons why, if I bring this back to education, you need education without borders.
We need to be able to give every child the guarantee that if they are in a conflict zone, if they're in a broken state, if they're in a fragile country that they, just as we guarantee health through Medecins Sans Frontieres and the Red Cross, we can guarantee that they will continue to be able to develop their potential and get education.
So these human tragedies which can go on for years and affect generations, we've got to be better prepared to deal with the humanitarian consequences.
MALVEAUX: It looks like there seems to be a consensus that's being formed here when you have England, you have France, now the United States, potentially talking about arming rebels.
Do you think that the rebels need more support in order to overturn Assad?
BROWN: I think there's a number of options that have got to be considered and look to go into that in detail as the politicians will have to do when America, France, Britain and, of course, Russia is there at the G-8 next week. They'll have to look at a number of options.
Creating a zone that -- which is free of conflict is one option that's been looked at. And, of course, the question of arms is another issue.
But I would prefer myself to do what I'm doing to concentrate on, also, the humanitarian consequences and what we need to do as a world where the tragedies occur because they occur in the Middle East, they occur in Africa, they occur in parts of Asia.
We've got to be better prepared in the future to deal with the human fallout when so many young lives, so many children, of course, so many families are just split asunder as a result of a conflict, and we appear to be powerless to deal with the humanitarian consequences.
We should have learned the lessons from a long time ago about what to do in these situations.
MALVEAUX: All right, former Prime Minister Gordon Brown, thank you so much for joining us. We appreciate it.
Make sure, of course, to tune in to our special presentation of "Girl Rising." It is this Sunday at 9:00 p.m. Eastern and Pacific, here on CNN.
And a toilet paper shortage in Venezuela? That's right. There's actually an app for that, seriously.
We're coming up and we're going to show you how technology is helping folks in Venezuela cope with the shortage.
MALVEAUX: Welcome back.
President Obama's trip to Africa at the end of the month could be his most expensive so far. "The Washington Post" now got access to an internal planning document for the trip. "The Post" says it could cost between $60 and $100 million. The first family will visit Senegal, Tanzania and South Africa.
Now, according to the paper, military cargo planes will airlift 57 support vehicles to the region, three trucks will carry bulletproof class to cover hotel windows where the first family will stay and fighter jets will fly in shifts to provide 24-hour cover.
A ship with a medical trauma center will, also, be stationed offshore.
Now, the paper says these preparations in line with past trips to Africa by Presidents George W. Bush and Bill Clinton. Clinton's trip in 1998, I went on that one, cost at least $42 million.
The Panama Canal, right now it's the only shipping channel between the Caribbean and the Pacific, right? Well, that might soon change. The government of Nicaragua has given an early green light to a Chinese company to cut a new east-west channel. So the final route hasn't been revealed yet, but wherever it is it would have to be at least three times as long as the Panama Canal. So, this is the early process here. Nicaragua has only granted what they are calling the concession. Now word on how they're going to actually foot what is estimated to be a $40 billion price tag.
And this movie, Superman move, "Man of Steel," opens in the United States, that's happening this weekend. It's already breaking box office worldwide records.
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MALVEAUX: In the Philippines, the film shattered the county's all-time record for the biggest opening day ever with $1.6 million in box office sales. In Taiwan, the "Man of Steel" beat out "Harry Potter and the Dark Knights" opening days. Actor Henry Cavill plays this latest Superman, a super hero who doesn't know how to use his powers until going through some life experiences.
In Venezuela, food shortages, they are common. Stores run out of milk and flour. People go without days. But now a young man whose getting tired of the problem, well, he's come up with some of solution. It is a technological solution. He actually designed a cell phone app to deal with all of this. Rafael Romo has the details.
RAFAEL ROMO, CNN SENIOR LATIN AMERICAN AFFAIRS EDITOR (voice-over): Standing in line for hours under the sun. In Venezuela, that's what consumer have to do in order to buy basic food products. Even mothers with small children.
"I'm short on rice, oil, flour, everything," says this woman. The oil rich country is experiencing a shortage of basic staples. Even toilet paper is scarce.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE, (through translator): This is degrading. We're waiting under the sun and they mark our arms in order to get inside the store.
ROMO: But if necessity is the mother of invention, it was only a matter of time before somebody tried to come up with a solution.
Jose Augusto Montiel, a violinist and college student. The 21-year-old who still lives with his mother has created a mobile phone application that allows consumers to tell each other where to find scarce products.
JOSE AUGUSTO MONTIEL (through translator): I spent a week without milk for my coffee and I said, well, I may not have a solution for the shortage problems, but I can help people with my knowledge of mobile applications.
ROMO (on camera): The app is called Abasteceme, Spanish for "supply me." It has been downloaded more than 14,000 times. Quite a high number for a county like Venezuela. It's completely free and relies on a smartphone GPS to tell consumer where to find several scarce products.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE (through translator): At first he would share it with his friends to see if something failed. That's how he tested it.
ROMO (voice-over): The Venezuelan government says the food shortage is a result of greedy store owners who hoard regulated products to sell them later at a higher price. But some economists say it's the result of socialist policies and regulations that have discouraged production.
Meanwhile, the Montiels have run out of milk again. The app can help, but not if there's not a drop to be found anywhere in the city.
MALVEAUX: Rafael joins us.
So tell us how the app works and why is there a big shortage here?
ROMO: It's what is called crowd sourcing. Essentially people feeding information into the app to tell other people where they can find -
MALVEAUX: The toilet paper.
ROMO: Toilet paper, sugar, all that kind of stuff. And it's got 14,000 downloads and it's very, very popular.
MALVEAUX: And why -- why all the shortages? I know we don't have a lot of time, but why is this happening in Venezuela?
ROMO: Essentially critics of the system say socialist policies and regulation trying to keep prices very low artificially is discouraging production, so that's a big problem now. MALVEAUX: Very -- it's just clever. Very clever that that kid did that.
ROMO: Very cleaver. Yes, I agree.
MALVEAUX: OK. Thanks, Rafael, appreciate it.
ROMO: Thank you.
MALVEAUX: Coming up, Ringo Starr opening up to CNN about being a Beatle, becoming a drummer and how he got his nickname, after the break.
MALVEAUX: Ringo Starr has tons of cool stuff. He didn't even know about it. I guess you would too if you were a part of rock and roll's most famous band. Well, he handed over a whole museum's worth of personal Beatles artifacts for this exit. This is at the Grammy Museum in L.A. he took our Tory Dunnan on a tour and gave her even a music lesson. Watch this.
RINGO STARR, FORMER BEATLE: And you press the base drum pedal.
TORY DUNNAN, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Right here?
STARR: Yes. Look how easy.
DUNNAN (voice-over): A drum lesson from Ringo Starr.
STARR: You've only just started.
DUNNAN: It happened when the Rock and Roll Hall of Famer took us on a tour of his new exhibit at the Grammy Museum in Los Angeles.
DUNNAN (on camera): From the outside everyone's looking on at the Beatles. They can't imagine what it's like to have been one.
STARR: No they can't and I couldn't really ever explain it to you.
DUNNAN (voice-over): But now fans can put the pieces together themselves by looking at the man behind the music, his drums, his wardrobe and even his personal belongings.
DUNNAN (on camera): I love this here. This postcard that you wrote to your mom.
DUNNAN: At the bottom.
STARR: I know. Calm me Ringo Starr. Because it wasn't getting through when, you know, I'm Richard Starkey, to your mother I'm Richard.
DUNNAN: You got your name by the rings you were wearing?
STARR: I did. In Liverpool everyone sort of got a nickname.
DUNNAN: Would you ever change the name that you chose?
STARR: No, I'm Ringo. Hello, Ringo.
DUNNAN (voice-over): This drum kit is from the Beatles first American appearance in '64 on "The Ed Sullivan Show."
DUNNAN (on camera): What do you think of when you see that?
STARR: Well, I think of an incredible moment of coming to America. Even on the plane, you can feel your (ph) buzzing.
DUNNAN: Did you ever wear any of these still?
STARR: Yes, I wear them around the house. Barbara and I have Beatle night. No.
DUNNAN (voice-over): Starr even drummed up and developed a book of negatives. These are all photos he's taken during the Beatles hay day.
STARR: Well, we're in a big, fancy hotel in Paris and George is washing his hands and face. We just took our shits and do it like that.
DUNNAN: And for those who are inspired to become drummers --
DUNNAN (on camera): You're going to see my lack of musical talent.
STARR: You and many others.
DUNNAN (voice-over): Then, arguably, the most influential drummer in all of rock and roll crushed me like a bug.
STARR: You should play guitar.
DUNNAN (on camera): Oh, man.
DUNNAN (voice-over): Not everyone can be Ringo Starr.
Tory Dunnan, CNN, Los Angeles.
MALVEAUX: That's great.
Coming up next hour on CNN NEWSROOM, online bullies couldn't keep this little boy from stealing the spotlight before another NBA playoff game. That's right. We're going to show you his encore performance.
MALVEAUX: Welcome back. This is trending around the world today. Probably the best way to get fired if you're a radio DJ, step one, invite your country's head of state on your radio show. Step two, insult her with cheap shots, bad jokes, and insist that her partner is gay because he's a hairdresser. Well, that's what happened in Australia to Prime Minister Julia Gillard. Listen to this.
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HOWARD SATTLER, DJ: Tim's gay.
JULIA GILLARD, AUSTRALIA PRIME MINISTER: Well -
SATTLER: I know somebody's saying that's a myth.
GILLARD: Well, that's absurd.
SATTLER: Yes, but you hear it. He must be gay. He's a hairdresser.
GILLARD: Oh, well, isn't that -
SATTLER: You've heard - but you've heard it. It's not me saying it. That's what people are -
GILLARD: Well, I mean, Howard (ph), I don't know whether every silly thing that gets said is going to be repeated to me now.
SATTLER: No, no, no, but --
GILLARD: But, you know, to all the hairdressers out there, including -
SATTLER: No -
GILLARD: Including the men who are listening, I don't think in life one can actually look at a whole profession full of different human beings and say, gee, we know something about every one of those human beings. I mean --
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MALVEAUX: She handled that well. The radio DJ did get fired. Howard Sattler. And they also, of course, the station issuing an apology to the prime minister.
And this programing note. In three days, CNN's all new morning show debuts. Chris Cuomo, Kate Bolduan and Michaela Pereira are going to host "New Day." Make sure you tune in Monday morning 6:00 Eastern. Good for them.
That's it for AROUND THE WORLD. CNN NEWSROOM starts now.