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Charges Files Against Edward Snowden; Paula Deen Let Go By Food Network; NFL Patriot Aaron Hernandez Questioned in Murder Investigation
Aired June 22, 2013 - 06:00 ET
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VICTOR BLACKWELL, CNN HOST: Criminal complaint revealed: the man who leaked NSA secrets is now facing charges of espionage. But the question is how to get him back on U.S. soil.
ALISON KOSIK, CNN BUSINESS CORRESPONDENT: Paula Deen, throwing herself at the mercy of her fans. But for her biggest backer, it's already too late. Is her brand ruined forever?
BLACKWELL: And they've gone double platinum, been inducted into the Rock 'n' Roll Hall of Fame and were propositioned by Van Halen to do what? You'll find out in our exclusive interview with Heart.
KOSIK: Good morning, I'm Alison Kosik.
BLACKWELL: I'm Victor Blackwell at 6 o'clock this NEW DAY SATURDAY.
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KOSIK: All right. Let's go ahead and start this NEW DAY with formal charges against the man who admitted that he leaked government secrets. I'm talking about Edward Snowden and the secret information about the NSA's surveillance program.
Snowden is still in hiding, last seen in Hong Kong. Joining me now from Washington this morning is CNN White House correspondent Dan Lothian.
Good morning, Dan. Tell me first what the charges are and does the filing of these formal charges now begin the extradition process?
DAN LOTHIAN, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Well, good morning, Alison. You know, this is the first legal hurdle in trying to eventually, ultimately get Snowden back to this country. Federal prosecutors charging him with espionage and the theft of government property, this according to a one-page government complaint.
Now when we talk about espionage, more specifically what that means is unauthorized communication of national defense information and the willful communication of classified intelligence to an unauthorized person.
According to "The Washington Post," the U.S. government has now asked Hong Kong to detain Snowden as part of some kind of a warrant, a provisional warrant. Now, this is just sort of the step that we always expected, that, first of all, before they could get Snowden back to this country, they would have to file these charges.
Then would come this warrant, then this process of trying to get him back here to this country. As you know, Snowden has admitted to leaking this information because he believes that the Obama administration, more specifically, President Obama himself, has not been transparent and in fact has expanded some of these programs.
Of course, the U.S. government and the NSA specifically saying that these kinds of programs have helped to thwart some 50 terrorist plot and that -- plots, rather, -- and that the congressional investigators and members of Congress have had a lot of oversight to make sure that all this is done within the guidelines.
KOSIK: OK. So, is this it? Or could more charges come later?
LOTHIAN: Well, you know, there could always be additional charges. But at this point, we don't know of any additional charges. What we do know is that Snowden has talked about resisting any effort to come back to this country.
And by the way, you know, last we knew, he is still in Hong Kong but perhaps he has gone somewhere else. So this could be a very difficult chase, if you will, as the U.S. government tries to figure out exactly where he is and then bring him back to this country.
I should point out, one other thing, Alison, we have gotten some comment from Peter King, who is the chairman of the Homeland Security Subcommittee on Counterintelligence and Terrorism, saying that he supports this effort by the U.S. government to indict Snowden and that Snowden, quote, "has betrayed his country and the government must demand his extradition at the earliest date."
KOSIK: OK, Dan Lothian, thanks.
BLACKWELL: Well, now that the charges have been filed against Edward Snowden, the focus shifts halfway around the world to Hong Kong, where Snowden is believed to be hiding out.
Let's go to CNN senior international correspondent Nic Robertson in Hong Kong.
Nic, the U.S. wants authorities in Hong Kong to detain Snowden on an arrest warrant; tell us about that? NIC ROBERTSON, CNN SENIOR INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Well, the process here is the chief executive, the sort of leading politician here, will then take a decision, recommend to a court. The court judge will then decide to issue or not -- and very likely they will -- an arrest warrant. And then the police will execute that.
What the police have said here today is that they will follow this through if this process begins. I think every indication here is that it's under way.
And they also said something that was very telling. Any foreign citizens here in Hong Kong must abide by the law. Edward Snowden has also said, as well as wanting to avoid going back to the United States, he has also said he has faith in the Hong Kong justice system.
But there's no indication he's actually turning himself in at the moment. In fact, almost the contrary. In some ways, the unsealing of these charges that we've had now, perhaps comes very hard on the heels of the information that Edward Snowden was trying perhaps to leave here, to fly on a private jet to Iceland.
All of that seems to have come to a grinding halt. And the legal process here under way but a little bit opaque as to the details as they are carrying out right now here, Victor.
BALDWIN: Tell us more about the communications between the U.S. and Hong Kong.
Have U.S. officials been talking with the Hong Kong authorities?
ROBERTSON: That's the understanding we have. Certainly, Hong Kong authorities are remaining very tight-lipped about this, as are consular officials at the U.S. consulate here in Hong Kong.
But the indications are -- and speaking to a lawyer here as well, who has often spoken quite openly about these type of asylum issues that we seem set to get into right now with Edward Snowden, has gone very tight-lipped as well.
And I said, are you representing Edward Snowden? He said he couldn't comment on that. I asked him a few other questions.
So we get the impression here that there is a legal team being lined up for Snowden. And we can't say that with absolute certainty. But it does -- we are beginning to see the vestiges of what may become a very protracted and legal case here, as Snowden tries to get asylum in Hong Kong to avoid extradition back to the United States, Victor.
BLACKWELL: How about the Chinese government? Could the Chinese intervene? Could they get involved in this?
ROBERTSON: Oh, sure, it's all possible. This is China: one country, two systems. The chief executive here could be pressured, influenced by Beijing. I think the general perception, though, is the legal -- what we're getting from legal experts here, lawyers are saying that, right now, the way that this would play out legally, of the three charges, one of those charges is a charge that also exists here in Hong Kong.
That means according to the legal terms, the agreement between the United States and Hong Kong actually should go ahead. That's theft of property from a government. And the thing that Snowden might use to get asylum here, that this was political persecution, the lawyer is telling us he is looking at these charges; he doesn't see political persecution there.
So whatever Beijing's views on this may be, the legal -- everyone really here is expecting the legal process to go along the expected lines, that there won't be any big political hurdles put in the way. That's the expectation. We've yet to see it play its course here, Victor.
BLACKWELL: All right. Many players now in this. Nic Robertson in Hong Kong for us, thank you.
The Food Network says it's dropping Paula Deen. The move coming after the Southern cooking queen admitted in a lawsuit deposition that she has used the N word in the past. Now Deen and her brother are being sued for sexual and racial harassment by a former manager at their Savannah, Georgia, restaurants. Deen apologized in two statements online, first in a professionally produced video.
But apparently that was not what she wanted to say, so she removed it and posted an amateur video.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
PAULA DEEN, CELEBRITY CHEF: I want people to understand that my family and I are not the kind of people that the press is wanting to say we are. I spent the best of 24 years to help myself and others. Your color of your skin, your religion, your sexual preference does not matter to me. But it's what in the heart -- what's in the heart and my family and I try to live by that. And I am here to say I am so sorry.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
BLACKWELL: So Deen is out at The Food Network. CNN's Nick Valencia joins us now.
How is Paula Deen reacting to that news?
NICK VALENCIA, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Racial incidents are notoriously difficult to come back from, Victor. And she is in full-fledged damage control right now, releasing that video and pulling it back and then releasing another video to seemingly make it more authentic.
And she's begging for forgiveness from her partners, her fans, people that watch her. Right now, it's not looking very good, the situation, for Paula Deen as she's reacting.
But it's really how she's reacting to this that's confused a lot of people, very bizarre behavior and now being dropped from The Food Network. She's thanked them for 11 great years. But she's really on her heels right now at this point, Victor.
BLACKWELL: Well, Nick, the headline here is the use of the N word. But this deposition is 149 pages. There are a lot of outrageous statements.
I want you to talk about if you can this plantation-style wedding.
VALENCIA: Yes, that's probably the most bizarre. And if our viewers have a chance to read this deposition, I believe there's a link on our website. It's 150 pages and there's a lot of very -- just to be frank about it, very weird things said in there.
One of them, the idea that she wanted to have this plantation-style wedding. And we have a graphic here; the plaintiff's attorney, this -- she was deposed, a lawsuit, civil lawsuit filed a year ago.
But take a look at this, Victor.
It says, "Is there any possibility in your mind you that slipped up and used the N word?"
And she responds to that, "No, because these men, they were professional black men doing a fabulous job."
Of course, she's talking about the plantation-style wedding that she wanted to have.
Then she goes on to describe them and say, "I would say that they were slaves."
Now her PR team has come out and very aggressively tried to characterize her usage of this word by saying that she grew up in a different time. She grew up in the South during a time when the use of the N word was condoned.
And they're sort of trying to couch it that she grew up in a different era. And now this word is not condoned, that we live in a society where this is a very ugly word that carries a lot of very ugly significance and they're backtracking now and trying to deal with this fallout here, what she said.
BLACKWELL: We will certainly talk more about this throughout the morning. Nick Valencia, thank you.
VALENCIA: You bet.
KOSIK: A big oops for Facebook after it overshared. The company says it accidentally shared personal information, like phone numbers and emails for 6 million of its users because of a bug in its download your information tool. The glitch only sent information to people who were already connected not to advertisers. Facebook says the problem has been fixed.
BLACKWELL: Alberta, Canada, could be in for more catastrophic flooding today; 75,000 people have already been forced from their homes in Calgary. Most of downtown has been evacuated. Some shelters are filled to capacity. The town of Medicine Hat is expecting its worst flooding in recorded history. The Royal Canadian Mounted Police say at least two people have died. A third person is missing.
KOSIK: Amazing pictures.
BLACKWELL: Yes, and apparently, it's not over, unfortunately. But here's another question: how much worse will it get for Calgary?
KOSIK: CNN meteorologist Alexandra Steele joins us now with more.
What do you think?
ALEXANDRA STEELE, AMS METEOROLOGIST: You know, it's going to get a little bit worse because more rain is coming now. Really the worst of is where the confluence of the Bow and the Oboe (ph) Rivers are. So we saw the rain at its maximum and the water levels at their maximum yesterday afternoon, but they haven't come down.
So the Bow Valley in Alberta, you can see 61/2 inches of rain almost. Some of these areas have more rain in a few days than they get in an entire month. So that's really where the worst of it is.
And these rivers in the downtown area and south of downtown, right now, 43 degrees, skies are dry but when you see those videos and the damage certainly has already been done. But as we head toward this weekend, kind of quiet although a few rain showers. But then another area of low pressure like it did the last few days sit overhead.
And unfortunately, Monday, Tuesday and into Wednesday, more rain is coming. So historic rain, historic flooding. The damage won't be better by the time more rain comes. So certainly, we'll have to watch this.
But also as we head toward tomorrow, it's called Supermoon Sunday. It's going to be quite a sight in the sky, now it's going to be bright, it's going to be full. Now the moon, what we call is going to be at perigee, it's closest in its elliptical move around the Earth. Then 32 minutes later, then the moon will be full.
And it's the timing of the perigee and the full moon together and it will be the biggest and the brightest it will be until next August of 2014. At least 14 percent bigger, 30 percent brighter. And tomorrow morning, especially early in the morning, when the moon's at the horizon, it will be its most incredible. And thus the misnomer and the name, supermoon that we call it.
STEELE: Supermoon (inaudible).
KOSIK: That's a reason to get up early, to see the supermoon. Never gets old, you know?
STEELE: Yes, absolutely not. It really will be incredible. BLACKWELL: All right. CNN's Alexandra Steele, thank you.
KOSIK: Do you need a little more jolt in the morning? Well, that rush at Starbucks is going to cost you a little more next week. We're going to tell you why and by how much.
BLACKWELL: Plus a really serious story, a woman is in critical condition this morning. She was mauled by a tiger while cleaning that tiger's cage. You're going to hear the shocking reason that tiger got loose.
BLACKWELL: Good morning. Washington, D.C., live look at the White House. Looks to be a bright, gorgeous weekend, 86 degrees, mostly sunny in the nation's capital, 17 minutes after the hour.
KOSIK: And in money news, stocks, they tumbled for a second street week. The Dow closed in the green on Friday though, but lower by almost 2 percent for the week. Some investors are feeling on the edge after Fed chief Ben Bernanke said the U.S. central bank will begin to taper back its massive stimulus program.
BLACKWELL: How much is 10 years of your life worth? Consider that.
Former Enron CEO Jeffrey Skilling said it's worth $42 million. That's how much he's agreed to give to the victims of the Enron collapse. In exchange, a judge has agreed to cut 10 years off his 24-year sentence.
Skilling has already served seven years for fraud, conspiracy and insider trading. Enron's collapse back in 2001 cost investors billions of dollars.
KOSIK: New this morning, flights on Southwest Airlines are back in the air after a computer glitch grounded planes on Friday night. The bug was found in Southwest's dispatch system, which schedules flights for takeoff. So flights already in the air were not affected.
Southwest says it is now using a manual system, which takes a bit longer, but has everything under control until the main system is fixed.
BLACKWELL: Are you a coffee drinker?
KOSIK: Oh, God, yes.
BLACKWELL: Are you?
KOSIK: I do. I need to. I'll get the intravenous (inaudible).
BLACKWELL: The coffee I.V.?
BLACKWELL: Well, if you're a coffee drinker, the price of your favorite morning beverage could be going up next week.
KOSIK: Somehow I expected this, because this is Starbucks raising their prices by around a dime for a tall latte. I know it doesn't sound like a lot, but a few pennies here, a few pennies there. It's already expensive. So what Starbucks is saying, that it's their first price hike in two years and it's partially due to rising labor costs.
BLACKWELL: Now not all of the drinks are getting more expensive, just be sure to check the board when you get there to see if you need to shake out some more change.
KOSIK: A dime is too much at Starbucks. It's already expensive.
BLACKWELL: Yes. Four bucks for -- I don't even know, I don't drink coffee. What is it, grande, tall, something --
KOSIK: You're just high on life, aren't you?
BLACKWELL: I am, just drinking in life.
All right. He's back. After two months off social media, basketball's MVP LeBron James made his big return to Twitter last night.
Was it worth the wait? We're going to tell you what the newly crowned champion had to say. Plus...
BLACKWELL: While James opens up, Patriots Aaron Hernandez is keeping quiet waiting for police to decide whether to charge him in a murder investigation.
KOSIK: Good morning, Atlanta. Look how pretty that is. We're coming up right there behind the towers downtown. Nice, quiet morning, and it looks like it's going to be a fantastic Saturday today, 86 degrees, mostly sunny. Nice.
BLACKWELL: And very humid.
KOSIK: Oh, come on. It's nice, though.
BLACKWELL: It is if you like humidity. KOSIK: I don't mind.
BLACKWELL: LeBron James on top of the world this week, winning his second NBA Championship Thursday night in Miami.
BLACKWELL: You enjoy that?
KOSIK: God, I loved the game.
BLACKWELL: I slept through game seven. I watched game six, but I slept through game seven.
KOSIK: How could you?
JOE CARTER, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Boo.
BLACKWELL: All right, Bill (ph), we're getting to you!
BLACKWELL: And to celebrate, the king was back on social media for the first time in two months.
Joe Carter joins us now with the morning "Bleacher Report."
That was the guy who was booing a few moments ago.
CARTER: For those that are not on Twitter, guys, LeBron James, big time tweeter. The guy's got about 8.7 million Twitter followers. And before yesterday, his last tweet, April 20th. He said he gave up Twitter for two whole months to focus on winning his second NBA Championship. And obviously that mission was accomplished when Victor was sleeping on Thursday night.
So as promised, LeBron broke his Twitter silence yesterday and he did it with a video on Instagram. You know, that's new. And he did it from his couch. And basically, he directed the message to all those haters out there.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
LEBRON JAMES, NBA PLAYER: Man, I don't know what to say. I'm a champion, two time. Two rings. (Inaudible) doubt it, ooh!
(END VIDEO CLIP)
CARTER: See, I think that fuels him, all that hate out there.
Now, he's obviously earned the right to gloat for 15 seconds. He's on top of the NBA world right now, he's got two titles, two final MVPs, two Olympic gold medals and the guy's only 28 years old. You know it's incredible how social media connects sports fans and sports start together. Russell Westbrook, take this for example, he's obviously a star player for Oklahoma City. He was recently contacted by a fan named Charlie on his Facebook page.
Charlie asked Russell Westbrook if he would help him propose to his girlfriend, Rachel. So Westbrook said yes, and he did it via Twitter. Here's the tweet, it says, "Rachel, Chuck loves you. He wants to know if you would spend the rest of your life watching Thunder games with him."
One hour later, Rachel tweeted this. And she said yes obviously. It's interesting how we connect fans.
Colin Kaepernick, guy's a great quarterback for the 49ers. And, boy, he was asked to throw out the first pitch at the Giants game yesterday. And that pitch was clocked at 87 miles per hour. Now instead of the NFL, this guy could have had a career in baseball actually.
In high school, he threw 95 miles an hour. The Cubs wanted to draft him back in 2009. He said, you know what, I'm not going to play baseball. And after a recent Super Bowl appearance, many think that he has a very bright future ahead of him in the NFL, guys. But one would wonder what he would be like in baseball.
That's your "Bleacher Report" update, guys. Back to you.
BLACKWELL: Thank you, Joe.
KOSIK: OK. Coming up, Paula Deen is known for her mouth-watering Southern dishes but her latest controversy is leaving fans with a bad taste in their mouth.
BLACKWELL: And an NFL star is keeping his mouth shut while detectives investigate a murder. Fans wonder whether Aaron Hernandez's next uniform will have prison stripes.
KOSIK: Bottom of the hour. Now, welcome back. I'm Alison Kosik.
BLACKWELL: I'm Victor Blackwell.
Here are five things you need to know this morning.
Number one, the U.S. government has now charged admitted NSA leaker Edward Snowden. He's facing three charges right now, including theft of government property.
Under the Espionage Act he was charged with willfully communicating classified intelligence information to unauthorized persons and communicating national defense information without permission.
Snowden is in hiding and was last seen in Hong Kong. The charges are the usual first step in the extradition process.
KOSIK: The Food Network says it's cutting ties with Paula Deen by not renewing her contract at the end of the month. The celebrity cook is under fire for admitting she has used the N word in the past. That came to light in a recent lawsuit deposition. She's being sued for racial and sexual harassment by a former employee.
Deen denied the accusations. Last night she thanked the Food Network for 11 great years.
BLACKWELL: Third story now: Secretary of State John Kerry is discussing the next move in Syria today. He's in Doha for the so- called Friends of Syria meeting. On the table is the possible expansion of aid to the Syrian opposition. That could include military support. It's the first Friends meetings since new revelations of possible chemical weapons used by the Syrian military.
KOSIK: The Canadian province of Alberta is bracing for another day of brutal flooding. The rising waters have forced 100,000 people to evacuate and left at least two people dead. Many shelters in Calgary are filled to capacity. And downtown is among 25 evacuated neighborhoods. Canada's prime minister toured the devastation Friday afternoon.
BLACKWELL: Story five: NFL star Aaron Hernandez can only wait while police decide whether he'll be charged in a murder investigation. Twenty-seven-year-old Odin Lloyd was found shot to death less than a mile from his home. A lawyer for the New England Patriots star has confirmed that the home of Hernandez was searched but has not said why the police spoke with him.
KOSIK: The investigation has already cost Hernandez one endorsement. And obviously that could be the least of his worries.
CNN's Susan Candiotti has the latest on where the investigation stands right now.
SUSAN CANDIOTTI, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Alison and Victor, good morning.
At least three search warrants have been executed so far. But no public filing of what evidence has been seized. The question everyone wants to know is will that evidence lead to the arrest of New England Patriot Aaron Hernandez.
CANDIOTTI (voice-over): After staying away from home since Thursday morning, Patriots tight end Aaron Hernandez returned Friday afternoon, accompanied by his lawyer. He entered through his garage. A bit later, his lawyer left avoiding reporters' questions.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Mr. V. (ph), you can let us know what's going on, please? CANDIOTTI (voice-over): Earlier in the day, two Massachusetts State Police investigators, one carrying paperwork, rang the doorbell and were invited inside. After a minute, they left, leaving as quickly as they came.
It hasn't been a good week for the player. On Friday, he lost an endorsement deal. CytoSport, maker of Muscle Milk, yanked its contract with Hernandez and issued this statement:
"In light of the investigation involving Aaron Hernandez, CytoSport is terminating its endorsement contract with Mr. Hernandez, effective immediately."
Monday night police found the body of a friend of Hernandez, Odin Lloyd, shot dead. Lloyd's body was found less than a mile away from the football player's home.
Tuesday, investigators searched Hernandez's home as part of the investigation.
On Thursday, Hernandez drove to Gillette Stadium as a news helicopter hovered overhead tracking his white SUV. Hernandez hustled into the facility.
Next he stopped for gas, where he was bombarded with questions from reporters.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Can you tell us -- anything you want to say? What happened on Monday night? Can you just tell us what happened on Monday night?
CANDIOTTI (voice-over): The family of Odin Lloyd also wants to know what happened Monday night.
Police are not calling Hernandez a suspect in the murder. Yet Lloyd's family wants to know why police are searching Hernandez's home.
CANDIOTTI: What do you make of the questions that he is being asked and what would you like to know?
OLIVIA THIBOU, LLOYD'S SISTER: I'd like to know why. He's a very great guy. What could he have possibly have done to anger anybody to do that? That's all I can really say.
CANDIOTTI: Do you think he might have had something to do with it?
THIBOU: I don't want to make a comment about that.
CANDIOTTI (voice-over): Olivia Thibou explained the relationship between Hernandez and the victim, saying her brother's girlfriend and Hernandez's fiancee are sisters. She confirms that on Friday, both men were at a nightclub together.
CANDIOTTI: As far as you know, ever have any angry words between them?
THIBOU: Not that I know.
CANDIOTTI: The last time she saw her brother was Sunday afternoon. Later that night, in the wee hours of Monday morning, police say he was gunned down. "The Boston Globe" reports that a few hours earlier he was caught on surveillance video along with Aaron Hernandez, on the very same street where Odin Lloyd lived with his family.
Alison and Victor?
BLACKWELL: All right, Susan, thank you.
KOSIK: Engineers are investigating a possible leak at the Hanford nuclear site at Washington State. Heightened radioactivity levels have been found beneath an underground tank holding nuclear waste. Governor Jay Inslee says there is no immediate public health threat, but he does say it's disturbing. The Hanford site once produced plutonium for atomic weapons.
In North Carolina, a gunman armed with a shotgun in custody this morning after opening fire in a Walmart parking lot. Four people were injured in the shooting spree before police shot and wounded the suspect. The conditions of the victims and gunman are not known. Investigators also haven't determined if the shooting spree was random or a targeted attack.
BLACKWELL: A woman is in critical condition this morning after a tiger clamped its jaws on her head. This happened at an exotic cat rescue center in Indiana. Now police say the woman was cleaning the cat's cage when it escaped its holding area. Authorities said the door wasn't properly shut. The tiger let the woman go after the center's director sprayed the cat in the face with water from a hose and lured it away with food.
The search for a high school valedictorian who vanished in Ecuador has come up empty. Eighteen year-old August Reiger split up from his family during a hike in the mountains. They say he never showed up at the meeting point. That was on Sunday. His dad says he's baffled because it's not a dangerous area and it's not like his son to wander off. We will be speaking with that father at 8:30 am Eastern.
KOSIK: Alberta, Canada, can't take much more flooding. There are already 100,000 people forced out of their homes while the downtown area of Calgary's third biggest city, Calgary, has been evacuated. For more, let's turn now to Staff Sgt. Brian Jones. He's the media liaison for the Royal Canadian Mounted Police, who joined us by phone from Calgary.
Good morning to you.
STAFF SGT. BRIAN JONES, MEDIA LIAISON, RCMP: Good morning.
KOSIK: First, I want to ask you, The flooding is deadly at this point, how many lives have been lost? JONES: Well, the RCMP are confirming that we have recovered two bodies from the High Wood River, which is located south of Calgary. We were at the scene and the community of High River has been significantly impacted by the flood. And unfortunately yesterday, Friday, two bodies were recovered from the High Wood River in the vicinity of High River, Alberta.
KOSIK: We're also sharing possibly there's a third body?
JONES: There have been reports of what is believed to be a third person in the river. And that individual is believed to be deceased.
Unfortunately, given the condition of the river and the fact that it was unsafe to launch what at this point in time is believed to be a recovery effort for that, we can't actually confirm the identity or anything around that sighting in the river.
We're still in the early morning hours here in Alberta. And as daylight breaks, efforts will -- they'll take a look and develop a plan to see if they can get to the site where this body is believed to be.
KOSIK: OK. We're looking at these pictures. I mean, they're just incredible. Have you ever seen anything like this?
JONES: No, I haven't. I spent my younger years in Alberta, a resident of the province for many years. This is certainly something that I'm not familiar with, the scale and the scope of it and the scope of the police and the government agency response covers a significant portion of the province of Alberta. Significantly, the southern portion of it. And RCMP officers and resources from a number of government agencies have been mobilized across the province in response to the communities, Calgary as well as numerous small communities in southern Alberta that have been significantly impacted by the floodwaters.
KOSIK: OK. Well, we wish you all the best, Staff Sergeant Brian Jones with the Royal Canadian Mounted Police. Thank you.
JONES: Thank you.
KOSIK: This is an incredible new day for 10-year-old Sarah Murnaghan and her family. Sarah woke up from a medically induced coma last night for the first time since she had surgery earlier this month. She underwent a lung transplant on June 12th after a judge ruled she could be put onto an adult donor list. Sarah who suffers from cystic fibrosis received lungs donated by an adult. They had to be resized to fit her. A family spokeswoman said Sarah has been nodding yes and no to questions, showing she understands what people are asking her. She's still on a ventilator so she can't talk at the moment.
BLACKWELL: What's the worst breakup you've ever had?
KOSIK: You know what --
BLACKWELL: That's what I want to start this (inaudible) -- (CROSSTALK)
KOSIK: Do you really want to know?
BLACKWELL: Oh, it was 1997.
KOSIK: Should I tell you?
Was it by text? Was it like over the phone or anything?
KOSIK: No, this is before text. This is in high school before they had text. So people got really creative. So I had this little boyfriend in high school. He had once given me this cat, stuffed animal cat. We shared a locker together. He cut the cat head off and put the cat head -- so when I opened up the locker, there was the cat head.
BLACKWELL: Wow, that is bad. That is bad.
Well, how about this, divorce over text?
KOSIK: So lousy.
BLACKWELL: This is terrible. Technology does not always make your life better. And we have some glaring examples.
KOSIK: Plus, did you know we've got Heart. The legendary Wilson sisters, I mean. They're going to be dishing some dirt, revealing what went on behind closed doors during a drunken night with the Van Halen brothers.
BLACKWELL: So technology, right, it's supposed to improve our lives?
KOSIK: And it has.
BLACKWELL: Yes, in many ways, but for some it's just the opposite.
Take, for instance, stalking. There's all kinds of ways to block stalkers on social media and Facebook and Twitter. You just click the block button. It's different on LinkedIn. LinkedIn is that website for professional connections. It's like a professional Facebook.
Well, there's a petition on chains.org that started by (inaudible), it says, "I quickly found I could ignore e-mails, delete voicemails, block Facebook, use privacy settings on Twitter, yet every day I was being looked at on LinkedIn. Now LinkedIn does have controls over who can see what. But they don't have universal blocks. So we contacted the company and they told us, "LinkedIn doesn't currently offer a block, although it is on our road map. Instead, we offer much more granular control for our members, things like limits on who can see profile photos and what people in their network can see on their profile and so on." But the point of LinkedIn is for employers to come and just freely look at your profile.
KOSIK: And isn't there a way to kick them out of your profile? Click them out of your list? If you don't know them, don't invite them to --
BLACKWELL: I'm not on LinkedIn. But I'm reading something about this LinkedIn stalking. There's a woman who talked to a reporter and said that she would get the same guy looking often and he would send things like, what else do you do other than look good?
KOSIK: All right.
BLACKWELL: (Inaudible) stuff like that.
KOSIK: All right, click, go away.
BLACKWELL: Yes, just get rid of them if you can.
KOSIK: Yes, Well, celebrities also have it just as bad. Katy Perry recently gave an interview to "Vogue." She talked about her rough 14- month marriage to Russell Brand and in it she says, "Let's just say I haven't heard from him since he texted me, saying he was divorcing me December 31st, 2011."
Weak, I think it's so weak to dump somebody over text. Have the courage to pick up the phone at least and call.
BLACKWELL: I hear you.
BLACKWELL: A divorce is weak to -- OK, but there are some people --
KOSIK: Any breakup.
BLACKWELL: -- there are some people who would prefer to have it by text.
BLACKWELL: Because they don't know how they would react in person. Like maybe if they would show some weakness or a facial expression or maybe cry. If you receive a text, you can just edit your response and not show any emotion.
KOSIK: I think it's cowardly. BLACKWELL: Yes, some people prefer it. Not many but some.
All right. Now for some technology is running their lives as much as helping it in the end. Now what if your last online post was a picture of your shampoo or your cat or complaining about the line in the grocery store? Mine is a picture of the "NEW DAY" mug this morning.
KOSIK: That's important.
BLACKWELL: OK. And then, say, you die. Right? Do you want that to be your legacy?
KOSIK: Why not?
BLACKWELL: Any crazy thing you put on. There's a new website that helps you say your virtual goodbyes. It's called Social Farewell, and for the low, low price of $4.95, the company posts to a preplanned final farewell, goodbyes can be send to Facebook, Instagram, Twitter. And if not on social media, they'll just send an e-mail for you. What do you think about this?
KOSIK: It figures someone's going to capitalize on your death like that. I mean, that's just kind of weird and very morbid.
BLACKWELL: It's five bucks, though.
KOSIK: I know. But there's something really -- you're already planning what your last -- it's just a little too much.
BLACKWELL: I paid 99 cents for extra coins on cell phone games. I can pay five bucks to say it's been a great life. Thanks. Good-bye.
KOSIK: For your final tweet?
KOSIK: All right.
BLACKWELL: But I'm kind of odd like that.
Quick break. We'll be back.
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KOSIK: Ahh, takes me back. That's Heart.
BLACKWELL: Crimps and eyeliner and fans. That's the '80s.
KOSIK: Yes, it's -- when you hear Heart, you think '80s, don't you? BLACKWELL:
KOSIK: Did you know they're back on tour?
BLACKWELL: They are. Yes.
KOSIK: You talked to them.
BLACKWELL: I did.
KOSIK: And they're going strong after almost 40 years -- since -- it's been 40 years since they put out their first album.
BLACKWELL: Yes, strong is right. I got the chance this week -- and this was fun, to sit down with the Wilson sisters. We talked about politics and immortality and sex.
BLACKWELL: Ann and Nancy Wilson. Let's start with the big honor this year. Rock 'n' Roll Hall of Fame inductees. How does that feel?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: It feels good.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Yes.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: It feels like more than like a trophy or just an award. It's feels like something we've kind of earned, like a lifetime achievement thing, you know, from 35-plus years of doing this in the public eye.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Yes.
BLACKWELL: There was another portion where you mentioned a proposition from the Van Halen brothers.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Oh, yes.
BLACKWELL: What was that about?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Oh, I think that was about vodka.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Our tours crossed paths one night. We both had days off.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I'm surprised we remembered that much, actually, to tell.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: We were in a really nice hotel. And everybody was running around between everybody's rooms and drinking.
BLACKWELL: And they offered a family four-way. UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Yes, well -- one of those brilliant party concepts that you wish you'd never thought of the next day.
BLACKWELL: What was the response, just for the record?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Nancy and I didn't go for it.
BLACKWELL: OK. All right. We just want to get that on tape that you said no, yes.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: No, no, we didn't.
BLACKWELL: You don't talk about politics a lot, but there was a period during the '08 campaign and your hit "Barracuda," when you heard the song played during a Sarah Palin campaign event, what did you think?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Well, let me say that she stood for everything that we stood against as women. We said cease and desist. Don't use it.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: A lot of our fans were really angry at us for not liking Sarah Palin. We're like, really? Wow. So there was a lot of like we're going to throw your albums in the trash.
BLACKWELL: So there was backlash.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Yes, we got a lot of backlash for it.
BLACKWELL: All of these views and these feelings about really important issues, do they make it into your music now, are you still writing?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Maybe they're not literally in the songs. They're poetically in the songs.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: There's a human perspective.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: It's our job to write about what's out there in the world.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Sometimes, the writing was personal, becomes universal because the experience is human.
BLACKWELL: There's so much to talk about. You can see more of my conversation with the Wilson sisters later in the morning. And hear why they were genuinely surprised by their success and how they fought against the stereotypes of women in rock 'n' roll. KOSIK: They look and sound good.
BLACKWELL: Sure do. We'll be back.
BLACKWELL: The stock market's race and celebrity chef Paula Deen all fair game to late night comedian Jay Leno.
KOSIK: And from a zombie apocalypse to new Oreo cookie flavors, check out the other kings of late night giving their twist on this week's news and gossip.
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BILL MAHER, HBO HOST: Over in the Senate this week, they found a way to get the Republicans on board with immigration reform. They're going to militarize the border. They're going to build what they're calling a border surge.
Remember the surge in Afghanistan and Iraq? They were so great. Let's try it here.
MAHER: Border surge, sounds like something you eat at Taco Bell.
JIMMY FALLON, NBC HOST: Mitt Romney's former campaign manager has launched a super PAC to stop Hillary Clinton to becoming president, which makes sense because if there's one thing Romney's campaign manager is good at, it's stopping someone from becoming president.
JAY LENO, NBC HOST: Oreo coming out with a new flavor, watermelon flavored Oreos. Oreos flavored with watermelon. Now see? Another example of what happens when you legalize marijuana. These are the treats you get.
CRAIG FERGUSON, CBS HOST: Zombies are everywhere, though, these days, "The Walking Dead" show, "So You Think You Can Zombie,"
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: "Here Comes Zombie Boo-Boo."
FERGUSON: Yes, yes.
FERGUSON: The "Real Housewives of the Apocalypse."
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BLACKWELL: Thanks for starting your morning with us.
KOSIK: We've got much more ahead on "NEW DAY SATURDAY" which starts right now.