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Paula Deen's Sons Speak Out; Day Two Of Zimmerman Trial; Where Is Edward Snowden?; Fertilizer Plant Explosion; President Obama Drafting The NFL?; Bus Crashes Into House; Job Haters Hanging In
Aired June 25, 2013 - 07:30 ET
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JAMIE DEEN, PAULA DEEN'S SON: My mother would never teach Bobby and I anything other -- we're obviously a product of our environment. We care very much about our community. I'm raising two boys right now. This is ridiculous. It's completely absurd to think that there is an environment of racism in our business.
It's really disrespectful to the people we work with. We have strong educated men and women of character that have been with us for 5, 10, 15, 20 years, to think they would allow themselves to be in this position is simply bologna. It's ridiculous.
CHRIS CUOMO, CNN ANCHOR: So Bobby, what do you think your mother meant when she said that in the deposition?
BOBBY DEEN, PAULA DEEN'S SON: I have no idea, Chris. She has never said those words to me. My mother has never talked to me that it was acceptable to say terrible things or use vile language against other people or to use words as a weapon. I've never heard that so I have no idea.
CUOMO: I'm giving you a chance to deal with what in this lawsuit in the deposition that came out of it. One of the reasons this has become so difficult for your mom is these are her own words. These are her own admissions that she's making here that she used the "n" word inappropriately, yes, the story about the wedding and how people should be dressed there that is slave reminiscent. These are her words. Does it make it difficult to apologize and back away from it?
B. DEEN: Well, let me say this. These depositions were all given separately. Mine was separate from my mother's and separate from my brothers. We were not sitting in on each other's depositions. I did not hear my mother give this deposition and I don't know exactly what she may have meant.
J. DEEN: These are her words, not from Bobby and I, but I can tell you that we do not have lies in us. The number one thing that we cannot say to someone is dis-equal and that's why when people ask us the truth, we tell the truth regardless of the outcome. Truth is big in our family.
B. DEEN: I can tell you this, that word, that horrifying, terrible word that exists and I abhor it coming from any person is not in my vocabulary. It's definitely not in my brother's vocabulary. It's not in my mother's vocabulary. We were not raised in a home where that word was used and that's not who we are. That's not the home that we were raised in.
CUOMO: Jaime, the questions will be how real is this apology? Is this about being sorry you got caught or is this about being truly deeply sorry? What can you say to people to make them believe that your mother is coming out in the right place when she comes out and apologizes?
J. DEEN: A million times I've heard that people love mom because she's a real person and obviously who she is on television is really who she is in real life, and mom's sincere in all things that she does and we've always tried to take challenges in our life and turn them into positives.
You know, a person's character is not built through luxury, but through challenge and if mom says she's sorry about these things it's certainly that something she was just gave us a different time when my mother was growing up. There's been leaps and bounds generationally that has helped, you know, the chasm that we have of racism in this country.
Hopefully my prayer to God is that my boys will never have to deal with this and it's certainly not anything that Bobby and I ever supported or would you know condone on any level. If my mom says she's sorry you can bet she's sorry. Bobby and I are here today not to stem the tide for endorsements or any of those things. We're here to speak out for our mother's character.
And to say that our mother is a truly wonderful people inclusive of all people and spends a lot of her time and energy to help those people that are challenged. Twenty five years ago when we started our business we had nothing and now we've given the opportunity to help non-profits across this whole country and it means a tremendous amount to us.
And do good things in our life and the power we've been given through our media career is important to us and we're just here to say that this environment of racism that's been spoken about could not be further from the truth. We've never hired mental managers. All of our managers are promoted from within and like I said we had people 5, 10, 15, 20 years we see every day at work that are fine people that would never put up with that treatment.
CUOMO: Any chance others come forward and say I've heard her same the same things, it was like that on the show, those types of allegations?
J. DEEN: I can't imagine that happening but other than, what do you think, Chris, you think people are going to take this opportunity to come out and try to get their piece now? I mean, for every, you know, we have so much local support here. So many friends that have come forward and spoken out for our family as much like as many people would compliment you times ten would complain about.
We've been in the service business for 25 years and so many people enjoy it but there's always one person that's going to be most vocal for one reason or another. So what are the chances of somebody else coming out behind this? I would say pretty good. It's part of the price you pay when you have a high profile business or the television shows or whatever that mom might do.
CUOMO: You're saying it would be an opportunist, not somebody speaking the truth. Let me ask you this, and please each take an opportunity to respond to it. Your mother admitted these things so it's not like she's been chased after whether it's true or not, she admitted them in her own words. The question is now what will Paula Deen do it going forward? You're coming on to speak your truth about your mother, what does your mother intend to do herself to make amends and try to move forward?
B. DEEN: I think she's going to continue to be truthful. I mean, she was in a deposition under oath. Our mother is going to do nothing but answer the truth. We can look in the mirror and know who we are and how we were raised and the character of my parents. Our mother is not the picture that's being painted. Life's not fair.
It's inaccurate what people are saying about her and the people that snow know us know this is untruthful. And I think in the end it will work itself out because all the truth will come out at the end of this one, what it is, is really an extortion case.
J. DEEN: Mom has admitted to her transgressions and she's apologized for those. Chris, you know, coming from such a high profile family there are opportunists and my mom has admitted and apologized and as a person what more can you do?
CUOMO: All right, Jamie, Bobby, I know this is difficult for you to talk about. I appreciate you coming on. I wish the best going forward and the best to your mother as well to make amends in this situation. Hopefully something good can come out of this.
J. DEEN: I'm happy to be here this morning, Chris.
B. DEEN: We're happy to be here and happy to speak for mom. Thank you, Chris.
CUOMO: All right, fellas, I appreciate you being on NEW DAY. Now everybody else out there watching the show, we want to hear your thoughts. Please check us out on Twitter and Facebook, or go to newdaycnn.com. Let us know what you think -- Kate.
KATE BOLDUAN, CNN ANCHOR: Thanks so much, Chris. Coming up next on NEW DAY, the trial of George Zimmerman is under way in Florida. We'll tell you why his defense attorney is apologizing for part of his opening statement.
Also Lebron James and a close call, the Heat celebrate their second straight NBA championship with a victory parade to Miami, but who knew the parade could get so dangerous.
CUOMO: Clapping here on NEW DAY because it's a darned good song. I was on beat, right? Welcome back to NEW DAY. I'm Chris Cuomo.
BOLDUAN: I'm Kate Bolduan. We're here with Michaela Pereira. It is Tuesday, June 25th, coming up this half hour.
CUOMO: You know why I'm happy I'm not 6'8".
CUOMO: That's why. You see how Lebron James almost lost his head during Miami Heat's victory parade. Literally, watch this, zip and nice hat as well. You know what his dexterity will get him John Berman's NEW DAY award of the day award.
BOLDUAN: But first this morning lawyers will make their case about George Zimmerman's calls to authorities in the weeks and months leading up to Trayvon Martin's killing. This following a shocking start to the second-degree murder trial, Zimmerman's defense attorney opened with a joke. The prosecution opened with a string of profanities.
CNN's George Howell is in Sanford, Florida, where the courthouse is. George what are we expecting today?
GEORGE HOWELL, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Kate, good morning. So we are expecting to hear from more witnesses today. Yesterday, we heard from two different attorneys with two very different styles. Now the question was it convincing or offensive? I want to warn you at home you're about to hear some strong language.
HOWELL (voice-over): Opening statements in the case against George Zimmerman began with words we wouldn't even air on TV.
JOHN GUY, ASSISTANT STATE ATTORNEY: (Inaudible) punks, these (inaudible), they always get away. Those were the words in that grown man's mouth as he followed in the dark a 17-year-old boy.
HOWELL: With Martin's family visibly shaken by what they heard, Prosecutor John Guy spoke directly to jurors using the very words Zimmerman used when he called the non-emergency line before shooting and killing Trayvon Martin. For 30 minutes, the attorney challenged Zimmerman's account of what happened.
GUY: That defendant at the same time was upright walking around preparing. Preparing to tell law enforcement why it was he had just profiled, followed and murdered an unarmed teenager.
HOWELL: In still another unusual move, Attorney Don West opened for the defense with a knock, knock joke.
DON WEST, GEORGE ZIMMERMAN'S ATTORNEY: Knock, knock? Who's there? George Zimmerman. George Zimmerman who? All right, good, you're on the jury. Nothing? That's funny.
HOWELL: How that played out with the jury is anybody's guess. The one thing that became very clear, though, West wanted to cover a lot of ground. For more than two hours he laid out Zimmerman's case with pictures in great detail, overkill in the view of CNN legal analyst Sunny Hostin.
SUNNY HOSTIN, CNN LEGAL ANALYST: You're supposed to give definitely a road map, but they gave so much more than that and I think it was too much.
HOWELL: The state then called the first of its witnesses in the trial, among them, the non-emergency dispatcher, George Zimmerman called for help.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: How come you don't or didn't say, you know, order the person to stop and don't follow and anything like that? Why did you phrase it like you phrased it?
SEAN NOFFKE, 911 DISPATCHER: The reason we do that because we're directly liable if we give a direct order so we always try to give general basic not commands but just suggestions.
HOWELL: So court starts a little earlier this morning, 8:30 a.m. They'll wrap up a hearing and then at 9:00 a.m. we're expecting the jury to come into the courtroom. We'll hear from more prosecution witnesses and Kate, we'll see if there are any more surprises.
BOLDUAN: Yes, we'll definitely be watching for that. George, thanks so much.
CUOMO: There's a lot of news this morning. That's exactly why we have news anchor Michaela Pereira for the top of the news.
MICHAELA PEREIRA, CNN ANCHOR: And keep you on your toes.
All right, good morning to you both, and good morning to you at home. Making news right now, Russia now says it has nothing to do with NSA leaker Edward Snowden. Russia's foreign minister says the Kremlin has no idea where he is and that Snowden did not cross the Russian border. In his asylum request to Ecuador, Snowden said he fears inhumane treatment and even death if he is sent back to the U.S. He also says he would not get a fair trial.
West, Texas, the town devastated by April's spectacular fertilizer plant explosion is suing one of the plant suppliers. It says CF Industries sold 200 tons of the volatile compound ammonium nitrate to the plant without looking into whether the plant can store it properly. The suit also alleges CF Industries gave the plant outdated safety information and did not include additives that would have prevented an explosion.
President Obama may draft the NFL to inform people about Obamacare. Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius says the league and a variety of sports affiliates are in talks about how to promote the health insurance plans. They are taking a play from Massachusetts playbook, when the agency overseeing the state's universal health care team teamed up with Red Sox to get people to sign up.
A bus slams into a house injuring at least eight people. The impact of this crash moved the home seven feet off of his foundation. The driver had the most severe injuries. It took rescuers more than an hour to remove him from the bus. A mother and her three young children were in the Massachusetts home. They've suffered minor injuries only. It's kind of amazing when you think about that.
CUOMO: Amazing the force.
BOLDUAN: Absolutely. All right, Michaela, thank you so much.
Coming up on NEW DAY, an exclusive interview with the House Minority Leader, Nancy Pelosi, she's in our house. We're talking to her about the biggest news headlines this week from Edward Snowden to immigration.
CUOMO: McCain, Pelosi, everybody wants to be on NEW DAY even Lebron James and that's why he pulled this stunt so John Berman could give him his NEW DAY award of the day award. He's coming up, everybody, Herman, that is.
BOLDUAN: Welcome back to NEW DAY. It is money time, and Christine Romans is here with all the business news you need to know.
CHRISTINE ROMANS, CNN BUSINESS CORRESPONDENT: Good morning you guys. After a nasty afternoon on Wall Street, maybe a brighter morning today, stock futures are up. We're going to get an awful lot of data this morning, housing news, too in the next few hours. So watch this space.
Most Americans, it turns out, hate their job. This is according to Gallup, 52 percent of workers surveyed say they are not engaged at work. I want you to think about that for a second. They are just going through the motions. Another 18 percent are actively disengaged, meaning they don't care, about their jobs. I'm engaged this morning, folks. I'm engaged in my job.
CUOMO: I love my job. You know who else does? J.B., John Berman, here to give his NEW DAY award of the day award.
JOHN BERMAN, CNN CORRESPONDENT: No active disengagement here. We are totally engaged. I want to have a little discussion with Miami. Lebron James just led your basketball team to back-to-back NBA titles. Two finals MVP trophies in a row, he helped make the Heat the "it" team down there. What would be the way to thank him?
How about this, decapitation, seriously, have you seen pictures of this parade in Miami? You know a thing about Lebron James, turns out he's pretty tall, he's 6'8. The guy nearly gets his head taken off. Everyone, they are all pretty tall in basketball, it turns out. So the award of the day goes to the entire city of Miami. We're calling it the Louis XVI award.
CUOMO: Good reference.
BERMAN: Like Lebron James, he was a king, though he really did lose his head. It could also be called the hello Cleveland award. Lebron James could be a free agent next season. What's the best way to keep your priced players, decapitation, nothing says we want you like stealing someone's head.
BOLDUAN: You can only imagine what he's thinking, seriously, did you not drive this parade route?
BERMAN: Congratulations, Miami, way to go.
BOLDUAN: All right, Miami. I love that.
CUOMO: The whole place you took on.
BOLDUAN: They get an award. >
Coming up next on NEW DAY, my interview with House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, she's here in the NEW DAY house. We'll ask her about a lot of news to cover, Snowden, immigration, a lot more.
CUOMO: Turn your eyes to the screen. See this, it's a statue, it's moving. Why is it spinning on its own? Is it on its own? That's the question when we return.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Threats towards us are totally unfounded and unacceptable.
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CUOMO: Where did he go? Edward Snowden on the run. Whereabouts unknown, where is he heading now and can the U.S. get him before he gets there?
BOLDUAN: Shocking video, a woman forced by police to raise her shirt and lift up her bra during a routine traffic stop. The cop is still on duty.
PEREIRA: And mystery at the museum. How exactly is this ancient statue rotating on its own? Experts are perplexed, spectators are fascinated. We go looking for answers.
CUOMO: Your NEW DAY continues right now.
BOLDUAN: Good morning and welcome back to NEW DAY, everyone. It's Tuesday, June 25th, I'm Kate Bolduan.
CUOMO: And I'm Chris Cuomo, along with Michaela Pereira here at the 8:00 hour in the east.
BOLDUAN: In just moments, Nancy Pelosi is going to be joining us for an exclusive conversation really on so many topics in the news of the day, the international hunt for Edward Snowden as well as the pressing issue of immigration reform --