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Supreme Court to Rule on Same-Sex Marriage; Prince Jackson to Testify Today; Ariel Castro in Court; New Hoarder Task Forces; Traffic Violation; "Monsters" Monster Weekend; Aaron Hernandez Put into Police Car
Aired June 26, 2013 - 08:30 ET
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CHRIS CUOMO, CNN ANCHOR: How is the morning going so far? hope it's good. Welcome back to NEW DAY. I'm Chris Cuomo.
KATE BOLDUAN, CNN ANCHOR: And I'm Kate Bolduan. We're here with our news anchor, Michaela Pereira. It's Wednesday, June 26th. Coming up this half hour, a lot going on.
It's a national fascination featured in shows like "Hoarders" but hoarding is a very real disorder and now there's a new task force to help find a solution. Our crews tagged along with one of them. Very interesting.
CUOMO: And a very sweet controversy. Captain Crunch breaking his silence addressing the public outcry over his actual rank. Remember John Berman pointing out the stripes on the sleeve? Well, he's going to take us the latest on what he learned on the Internets.
But a lot of news here on NEW DAY for you, so let's get to Michaela, who's got the five things you need to know.
MICHAELA PEREIRA, CNN ANCHOR: For your NEW DAY. You ready? Here we go.
Number one, the Supreme Court expected to rule on same-sex marriage. One case challenges the federal Defensive of Marriage Act. The other, California's Proposition 8.
The judge in George Zimmerman's murder trial expected to rule on whether the jury can hear dozens of 911 call he made to police in the months leading up to Trayvon Martin's death.
Suspected Cleveland kidnapper Ariel Castro in court today facing more than 300 charges for allegedly kidnapping three women and holding them prisoner for more than a decade.
Michael Jackson's eldest son is set to take the stand today in his family's wrongful death lawsuit against concert promoter AEG. Prince Jackson will testify about the days leading up to his father's death.
And at number five, a beautiful tribute. Broadway will honor late Tony-nominated actor James Gandolfini. Theaters will dim their marquee lights for one minute before curtain.
That choked me up a little bit. We are always updating the five things you need to know so go to newday.CNN.com for the latest.
CUOMO: All right, thank you very much. Appreciate it.
BOLDUAN: Thanks, Michaela. So you've reality TV shows about it, but hoarding is a serious problem affecting an estimated 5 percent of Americans. It's recently been recognized as a distinct disorder. It's also a public health and safety hazard. So now the new task forces around the country are trying to combat this head on.
CNN's Torry Dunnan found out how.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Oh, look at all these dishes. And she's worried about throwing away those stupid turntables.
TORY DUNNAN, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): TV shows like "Hoarders" on A&E are magnifying America's fascination with hoarding. But this disorder is a reality for those living in the mess.
NANCY HALL, HOARDER: I don't know what it is.
DUNNAN: 72-year-old Nancy Hall sorts through piles upon piles.
(on camera): Nancy, how long has kind of all of this been building?
HALL: I would say probably 13, 14 years, 15 maybe.
DUNNAN (voice-over): The dust and cobwebs paint a story of a struggle to dig out.
HALL: This is what I'm trying to focus on now.
DUNNAN: Enter the Orange County Task Force on hoarding.
DARIN JOHNSON, FIRE INSPECTOR: I'm encouraged by, you know, what you're doing.
DUNNAN: When Fire Inspector Darin Johnson first walked into Nancy's home, he saw signs of a community at risk.
JOHNSON: What Nancy has is good kindling. So it would be a fast, rapid fire that will consume the apartment and potentially her neighbors.
DUNNAN: Step one, Johnson must build trust.
JOHNSON: I have a little bit more compassion for them and a little bit more of a helping attitude than a code enforcement attitude.
DUNNAN (on camera): Nancy has been working with the task force for more than two months, and one of the biggest accomplishments so far has been clearing a pathway to the front door. This whole area was filled with appliances and the stairway had hundreds of items on it.
HALL: As long as I feel that I've got somebody pushing me, encouraging me.
DUNNAN (voice-over): The OC Task Force is more than one of 50 across the country tackling hoarding. The team holds a monthly strategy session.
The cases vary by level and location. At another Orange County home, crews are removing some three tons of trash from this yard. Just one part of the recovery process.
HALL: I'd like to be able to watch TV in the living room. I'd like to be able to cook a meal.
DUNNAN (on camera): How does this whole process make you feel?
DUNNAN: And Johnson's team is hopeful for an even clearer path.
Tory Dunnan, CNN, Orange County, California.
BOLDUAN: And our chief medical correspondent Dr. Sanjay Gupta is here with us now to talk more about this. We're even talking as we were watching this piece because it does raise a lot of questions.
And I guess the first is, without being insensitive, this is one of those disorders, Sanjay, where people ask, "Why can't they just clean up? Wouldn't it make them feel better if they could just -- why can't they stop? What's stopping them?"
DR. SANJAY GUPTA, CNN CHIEF MEDICAL CORRESPONDENT: Yes, the cleanup part of that is fascinating. But let me start by saying this is a disease. This is an official disease as a of last month. It's in the bible of psychiatric diseases now called the DSM.
CUOMO: It's not just a behavior.
GUPTA: Not just a behavior, not just a problem with self-will. You know, your ability to control this. They think this is a disease and people develop this profound, profound attachment to these objects.
The word I -- I can't say the word, but you anthropomorphize something so you think of it as a living object as opposed to just a bottle cap or a sugar packet or a plastic bag. I saw a guy at (INAUDIBLE) once who went to a restaurant, walked in with his doggy bag, had the food in a box and plastic bag, had sugar packets, ketchup, got some free newspapers. He couldn't throw any of that stuff away after he got home.
There are some specific criteria to your question, Kate, that make up the diagnosis of hoarding. One is this difficulty to discard items. You just simply can't get them of them even though those items are cluttering up space in your home you would otherwise use as you saw in that piece just now.
CUOMO: And they're aware of it. They don't like that it's there.
GUPTA: It causes them distress. They're embarrassed by it. They won't have people in their home. It's really profound and quite fascinating. We don't know specifically what's happening in the brain, but it's interesting.
PEREIRA: It's interesting. And I don't mean to glib about it. My friend actually accused me of becoming a hoarder, which I'm not, but she teased me saying she's a minimalist and that I like things around me. But it brings to a good point to the conversation, does it start gradually? Can you see the signs of somebody that is on their way to something like this?
GUPTA: Oftentimes you can, yes. And oftentimes in the beginning you think it's not going to lead to the profound sort of interruptions of their daily life and this distress.
But I think the best way to kind of describe it is, with OCD, it's this act of wanting to collect things. These people who are hoarding are not collecting things. They're not like collecting coins or action figures. They get all these things and then develop this profound attachment to them. They think of them almost like members of their family. So cleaning up is actually the worse thing you can do. It can be very distressing. You're taking away members of their inner life.
BOLDUAN: And it really -- I mean, the task forces are out there trying to help now but can you fix it? Can you be cured?
GUPTA: We spent a lot of time researching this in preparation for this segment. I asked the same question. There's no medication for it, specifically. A lot of times they would treat it the same way they treat OCD, which is through a lot of counseling.
And that's what's happening here, as well, even as part of the task forces. They take people out, they go to that restaurant and then actually show them how to discard things. They walk with them through neighborhoods making sure they're not collecting things. And then hopefully helping them clean their homes up. But it is a challenging process.
PEREIRA: It's a danger. Law enforcement and first responders can't get to them if there is a house fire or an emergency, medical emergency.
GUPTA: There would be kindling in their house, yes.
PEREIRA: Yes, exactly.
BOLDUAN: All right, Dr. Gupta, great to see you. Thanks so much.
And of course, you don't want to miss more of Sanjay Gupta. And you can more of Sanjay Gupta this weekend. "SANJAY GUPTA MD" airs Saturday, 4:30 p.m. Eastern and Sunday at 7:30 in the morning right here on CNN. Yes, the man never sleeps.
CUOMO: All right, Sanjay, stay with us because nobody means the good stuff more than you do. Every day we feature stories about some of the good things that are going on out there, people doing the right thing.
Here is today's edition. Pascale Honore (ph), an Australian woman paralyzed since a car accident almost 20 years ago. Her dream to swim in the ocean, specifically to surf there. Impossible, right? Nope. Turns out all it takes is love. Love in the form of a well- intentioned 23-year-old, a cut up backpack, and a whole lot of duct tape.
Taped on the back of one of her son's friends -- look at this. She got to surf; she got to live her dream. Pascale (ph) said she can -- this made her smile, this was what she always wanted. Take a listen.
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PASCALE HONORE: I remember just looking up and just the color of the sand, I can't even find words to explain it. It's really shown me that you can still have dream. Anything is possible.
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CUOMO: You can have a dream, anything is possible. The pair are taking their act on the road, planning a tour of Australia's biggest waves. Can you imagine? He better be a good surfer.
If you want to help them, you can, because they need your help. You can donate at ducttapesurfing.com. Duct is D-U-C-T-T-A-P-E, surfing, you got it.
PEREIRA: makers of duct tape better be sponsors of that tour.
CUOMO: Right, help them out.
BOLDUAN: I love that web site and I love that story.
CUOMO: Now, Sanjay, we all talk about this. These stories are out there. Sanjay brings them to you a lot. We want to hear it. It may not be medicine but maybe it is kind of good for the soul, so let us know, please. Go to Facebook, tweet us, go to newdaycnn.com. I need a cure for my inability to get that right. And the hashtag, as always, just put it out there for good stuff for NEW DAY.
BOLDUAN: Exactly. Sanjay, it's great to see you, as always.
All right, coming up next on NEW DAY, it is a major U.S. city using revenue from traffic tickets to fund pay raises for the police.
CUOMO: This could be (INAUDIBLE) also. Sanjay, stay here.
BOLDUAN: Live report coming up on that. CUOMO: And then we have Michaela Pereira - sits down with this man, John Goodman. Gets the scoop on what it's like to work with Billy Crystal here at Disney-Pixar hit movie, "Monsters University". There he is, taking pictures of himself as a monster.
BOLDUAN: Where is he coming from? Where is he coming from?
PEREIRA: He's locked.
CUOMO: There he is.
BOLDUAN: Welcome back to NEW DAY. A startling accusation this morning against Atlanta's Police Department; a new memo is out suggesting that officers pay raises are tied to writing traffic tickets and there are whistleblowers coming forward across the country saying they, too, are being pressured to meet quotas.
Victor Blackwell is in Atlanta with more on this. This has been a long-time fear of anyone who drives -- Victor.
VICTOR BLACKWELL, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Kate and people are certainly talking about this. And the officers in Atlanta they're reassured because they've been working for some time to get these pay increases through negotiations. But drivers -- drivers are more than a bit skeptical.
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BLACKWELL (voice over): It's a suspicion drivers have held likely since the first speeding ticket that a citation is somehow connected to a little something extra for the officer writing it. Now, is there proof? In an e-mail this month, the Atlanta Police Union president wrote, "The mayor has designated traffic court and ticket revenue for future pay increases."
(on camera): Is it a quota system?
KEN ALLEN, ATLANTA POLICE UNION PRESIDENT: Certainly not. We're not even asking anybody or no one has made any suggestion that any officer write any additional ticket than they already have.
BLACKWELL: Former police officer and TV Judge Alex Ferrer says they don't have to ask.
ALEX FERRER, FORMER JUDGE: Once you tie something to somebody's financial earnings, they are motivated in a way they are not motivated before.
BLACKWELL: The Atlanta police force is not alone. A New York City police officer says he was pressured to write citations.
ADRIAN SCHOOLCRAFT, NYPD OFFICER: I wasn't meeting their undocumented quota -- the non-quota quota. BLACKWELL: Tucson's police chief requires his officers to make at least one stop a day on average. He says it's good for public safety and crime fighting.
CHIEF ROBERTO VILLASENOR, TUCSON POLICE DEPARTMENT: That's where we get most of our narcotic arrests. We get a lot of warrants that we're able to serve. There are benefits from traffic that have been proven in city after city.
BLACKWELL: Atlanta drivers have ideas for the money other than police pay increases.
AMBER ALBRIGHT, ATLANTA RESIDENT: They should put it towards the community, rebuilding roads, helping homeless people. You know, things like that.
BLACKWELL: Alan stresses while the money from tickets will go to raises, more tickets do not lead to higher raises.
ALLEN: This is a direct stream of revenue that could be designated to that part of it and it could come anywhere out of the general fund.
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BLACKWELL: And again, the plan is not to collect as much money from traffic tickets to putting one big pile and then split amongst the officers. Instead the raises, the percentages are fixed and this is simply the designated stream. It could have come from taxes or any other fee but Allen understands how drivers, in his words, misinterpret the connection -- Michaela.
PEREIRA: All right, Victor Blackwell reporting there from Atlanta, thank you so much.
Changing directions, the latest Disney Pixar movie literally a "Monster" at the box office. "Monsters University", the sequel to "Monster's Inc.", raked in $82 million in its opening weekend, taking the number one spot. I had a chance to sit down with one of the monsters, or rather the man, behind the monster, actor John Goodman, who voices my favorite guy Sully. Let's take a look.
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JOHN GOODMAN, ACTOR: Great to be here.
PEREIRA: You had to set that up. How have you been?
GOODMAN: I've been swell. I've been busy. And I just got back from Germany. I was there since February working with George Clooney.
PEREIRA: George Clooney yes, that fellow. You seem to be recurring characters in each other's lives.
GOODMAN: Yes, I guess so, yes.
PEREIRA: Isn't that funny to think? GOODMAN: Yes, he was -- he played Roseanne's boss in the first season of Roseanne and then took his option to leave and it kind of ruined his career.
PEREIRA: Yes, poor him. You throw him a bone every now and then, right.
GOODMAN: Every once in a while. Yes.
PEREIRA: Yes, you reunite with him in Coen Brothers, "O Brother, Where Art Thou?"
PEREIRA: And then your new film that's coming up.
GOODMAN: Yes "Monuments Men", I think it will be out in December.
PEREIRA: Tell us about that film.
GOODMAN: It's -- kind of the greatest treasure hunt in history. The Nazis when they advanced on these countries they looted all the art that they had for their personal uses and Hitler built this huge thing called the Fuhrer (ph) Museum that was going to be in Austria.
And a lot of the art was going to go there. Most of it was going to go to private -- anyway, they formed a unit of old guys of architects, artists, curators to try to track down and protect the art that the Nazis looted.
GOODMAN: And they saved, they saved a great deal of art of western culture.
PEREIRA: Amazing piece of history. Are you a student of history?
GOODMAN: I am the older I get.
PEREIRA: Kind of works out that way.
PEREIRA: Because we become history.
PEREIRA: This shows the terrific range you have. I mean, it's amazing to think of your -- your body of work, John. I mean, it's -- it's been incredible. We spoke about Roseanne, the Coen Brothers films, and then we talk about my favorite furry blue guy, Sully. You get a grin on your face when you talk about that character?
GOODMAN: I finally got to see the movie the other day.
PEREIRA: And -- GOODMAN: It's just delightful. I mean, I forgot that it was me doing it and just, I got carried away with the film. I mean, I can't wait to see it again.
PEREIRA: I remember years ago when "Monsters Inc." came out. It's marveling and I know you did too because I heard you say it -- the fact that Pixar was able to animate the fur on Sully so beautifully.
GOODMAN: That just tickled me to death. I don't know why.
PEREIRA: It really did.
GOODMAN: But it was a dig deal when they did it for them.
GOODMAN: And they would show these little demos and how do they do that? And yes. It's just astounding. Those guys are so creative.
PEREIRA: You fast forward 12 years and these animators are always five steps ahead of us at least. Are you still marveling at the whiz- bang things they can do?
GOODMAN: Every time all the details in the film and the texture and the storyline and the fact that you wind up really caring for these people, monsters, for the heart that they have.
PEREIRA: And that monster happened to beat out a fellow by the fellow by the name of Brad Pitt for number one slot over the weekend. That tells you -- it says a little something about America, doesn't it?
GOODMAN: I don't know.
PEREIRA: Let's talk about teaming up with Billy Crystal again, the two of you together.
GOODMAN: Billy is -- Billy is a force of nature. It was, I think, his idea originally to -- usually when you record an animated voice, you go in separately to the booth. You record all your lines and then you come back and do it again later, 12 to 15 times. But Billy decided it might be beneficial to have us both in the studio at the same time. And when that happened, the energy just exploded and then we started feeding off of each other and it really made it that much better.
PEREIRA: And it really is the chemistry is tangible. Did you feel it as well?
GOODMAN: I did.
GOODMAN: But it's nice, it's nice to hear that.
PEREIRA: But I wondered, did they have to rein you guys in on occasion because of that a very thing? GOODMAN: I'll say they reined Billy in. I'll just put it that way. No, he -- he just -- he goes off on these great tangents and they use a lot of it.
GOODMAN: And I just try to tag along. You know, he's amazing. Really, he's phenomenal.
PEREIRA: It's been quite a ride you've been on. You've been very busy the last few years.
GOODMAN: I've been very lucky in the last couple of years.
PEREIRA: Do you feel it's just luck, John?
GOODMAN: Yes. It's a -- it's luck. A couple years ago, I was sitting around wondering why my phone wasn't ringing and feeling sorry for myself. Trying to make things happen and it just, little things fed on another and, you know, it'll go down again. But right now I'm going to enjoy the hell out of it.
PEREIRA: Enjoy the heck out of it, man. It's really good to see you. I always love catching up with you. Come see us soon, OK?
GOODMAN: Thank you. It's great to see you.
PEREIRA: All right. You, too. Chris and Kate, back to you.
CUOMO: What a great interview.
BOLDUAN: He's a humble guy. He has a great laugh, too.
CUOMO: Isn't that great, everybody? Something to think on as we go to break. We'll see you back on NEW DAY in just a second.
CUOMO: All right everybody. We have breaking news here for you. New England Patriots tight end Aaron Hernandez was just put into a police cruiser wearing handcuffs. Police have been searching the area around his home after his friend Odin Lloyd was found dead nearby.
Let's get to Susan Candiotti. CNN has somebody on scene who witnessed this and Susan is on the phone from North Addleborough, Massachusetts, where Aaron Hernandez's house is. Susan, what do we know?
SUSAN CANDIOTTI, CNN NATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Hi Chris. Yes, this happened just a few moments ago and in fact our (inaudible) on the scene watch it happened and watched it unfold. Aaron Hernandez was placed in handcuffs. It happened with about a half dozen plainclothes (inaudible) police officers arrived on the scene went up to the house and the next thing that happened was that Aaron Hernandez was led out of the house wearing handcuffs, escorted out. Wearing a t-shirt and shorts and then put into a squad car and was taken away. So, so far we have seen what we are seeing as you indicated. We've been waiting for some time to find out whether he would be charged in connection with the shooting death of Odin Lloyd. Certainly at this point we don't know what the charge will be, why he was taken away in handcuffs, obviously arrested and put in custody.
I have reached out to the district attorney for the main point of information involving this case and reached out to other sources -- law enforcement sources along with the attorneys, of course, who are representing Aaron Hernandez. We've been waiting for quite some time, Chris, as you know, to find out. We know he has been under focus. There have been at least two searches at his house. We watched all kind of undisclosed items being put in paper bags and taken away from the house just the other day.
And his attorneys have said all along no arrest warrant has been issued, certainly up until that point. But, apparently, things have changed -- Chris.
CUOMO: All right. But there is no word yet from police or from Aaron Hernandez's attorney, which means either that they're just waiting on their own time or this might have been somewhat of a surprise. You had no indication this was coming, correct?
CANDIOTTI: That's correct. We have been told that it's an ongoing investigation.