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Live Coverage of the George Zimmerman Trail

Aired July 1, 2013 - 12:00   ET


DET. DORIS SINGLETON, SANFORD POLICE: Does he make the turn or does he go -


SINGLETON: You don't know. By the time he gets here, you can't see him?


SINGLETON: OK. And you're still in your car?


SINGLETON: And you're watching him walk away?

ZIMMERMAN: Yes, ma'am.

SINGLETON: OK. And then what happens?

ZIMMERMAN: The dispatcher asks me what direction he went on and exactly what address I was at.

SINGLETON: And this is when you don't realize what street you're on?


SINGLETON: You're on a center street and you live on the outside?


SINGLETON: OK. So you're trying to figure out what street you're on. OK. So you see him go here and then so what do you do to -

ZIMMERMAN: I got out of my vehicle to look at this house's address and see if there was a sign there.


ZIMMERMAN: And there wasn't.


ZIMMERMAN: So I walked through the dog walk to see if there was a sign here on an address that I could make out easier.

SINGLETON: OK. And then what happened?

ZIMMERMAN: The dispatcher asks me if I'm out of my car. And I said, yes. And they said, do you know what direction he went in? I said, no. and they said, are you following him? And I said, I don't - I don't know. I don't know where he went.

SINGLETON: OK. But you continue straight on the sidewalk (INAUDIBLE)?

ZIMMERMAN: Yes, ma'am.


ZIMMERMAN: Yes, ma'am.


ZIMMERMAN: All the way through.

SINGLETON: And then what happens when you get there? You decide that you still don't know where you're at?

ZIMMERMAN: I still didn't know where I was at, but I was able to give the dispatcher a description from the clubhouse. I said they come straight in past the clubhouse and my car is right here.

SINGLETON: OK. And you -- is your car running or you shut it off?

ZIMMERMAN: It's shut off.

SINGLETON: OK. So you're just parked here. You follow him.


SINGLETON: It doesn't (ph) matter (ph).


SINGLETON: So you walk here. And when you get here you realize, OK, I'm just going to go back to my car? Is that what happens or -

ZIMMERMAN: No. The dispatcher says, would you like a police officer to still come out, because I said I don't know where he went.


ZIMMERMAN: He's - because he asked me for the -- what direction they went in -


ZIMMERMAN: You know, what road. And I said, I don't know where he went. And they said, well, do you still want an officer to meet you? And I said, yes. And they said, well, where do you want them to meet you? And I said, at my car. So I start walking back towards my car.

SINGLETON: OK. Is this all dark in here? ZIMMERMAN: Yes, ma'am.

SINGLETON: OK. There's no lighting back here anywhere unless it comes from someone's houses? Is that how it works?

ZIMMERMAN: Correct. Yes.

SINGLETON: OK. And is it all dark down here -

ZIMMERMAN: Yes, ma'am.

SINGLETON: So you can't see anything down here?

ZIMMERMAN: Unless there's any lights on.

SINGLETON: OK. So at what point and where from what bushes does he jump out?

ZIMMERMAN: It was somewhere around here.

SINGLETON: And do you know, is there bushes along this walkway? Or where are the bushes?

ZIMMERMAN: There are all - there are hedges around the sides and the back of the buildings.

SINGLETON: OK. So you think it's up here somewhere where the t is where he jumps out?

ZIMMERMAN: Yes, ma'am.

SINGLETON: OK. Do you remember if you were walking this way, did he jump out in front of you from somewhere or did he come up behind you? Do you remember?

ZIMMERMAN: I don't recall. (INAUDIBLE).

SINGLETON: OK. He was, from what you guess, he's somewhere hiding at this t with the bushes -

ZIMMERMAN: Yes, ma'am.

SINGLETON: In the bushes when he jumps out? OK. And then where do you end up when your - when he - when you guys were on the ground and after this all happened? I mean where (INAUDIBLE), do you even know?

ZIMMERMAN: He punched me in the face and I fell backwards. And I don't even know where -

SINGLETON: You just know you're somewhere in this area?

ZIMMERMAN: And - yes, ma'am.

SINGLETON: OK. And when the police took you, they took you --

ZIMMERMAN: Back up this - SINGLETON: OK. Out (ph) this way. OK. And when that man was standing there with the flashlight, do you remember what building he was from?

ZIMMERMAN: No, ma'am.

SINGLETON: Do you remember what building you saw when you said you saw somebody?


SINGLETON: You saw somebody over here -

ZIMMERMAN: Yes, ma'am.

SINGLETON: When you were hollering for help?

ZIMMERMAN: Yes, ma'am.

SINGLETON: And the guy says, I'm calling?


SINGLETON: OK. This is the building where you see somebody?


SINGLETON: OK. But he jumps out of bushes somewhere in this area?

ZIMMERMAN: Yes, ma'am.

SINGLETON: OK. What kind of gun was it?




SINGLETON: (INAUDIBLE). Well, you know, I'll get you another one. Or you can have soda or coffee or anything.



ZIMMERMAN: Thank you.

SINGLETON: Do you now (ph) need to use the restroom yet?

ZIMMERMAN: No, ma'am.



BERNIE DE LA RIONDA, PROSECUTOR: May I approach the witness, your honor?

JUDGE: Yes, you may.

DE LA RIONDA: Ma'am, I'm going to show you what's been introduced into evidence, I believe without objection, 176. Do you recognize state's exhibit 176, ma'am?

SINGLETON: Yes. This is the Google map I brought Tim (ph) that he wrote off (ph).

DE LA RIONDA: And is that the Google map that you were using in the last interview with the defendant?

SINGLETON: Yes, this is the same map.

DE LA RIONDA: OK. Your honor, may the court assist us by dimming the lights a little bit. I apologize. Ma'am, I'm showing you state's exhibit 176. Do you see it there?


DE LA RIONDA: OK. And is this the Google map you used and had the defendant describe his actions and what and where he came into contact with the person we now know as Trayvon Martin?

SINGLETON: Yes, that's the same map.

DE LA RIONDA: OK. All right. And let's go over a few things, if we can. I'm pointing to what appears to be a pink right here. What is the significance of that? Does it say car on there?

SINGLETON: It says car. That's where he says his car was when he first noticed Trayvon.

DE LA RIONDA: All right. And here's what I'm going to do. I'm going to blow up part of this Google map so that jurors can see it. OK. So right here I'm pointing to where it says the word "car" that is pink. He's actually writing that in or are you writing that in or how does that - how does that progress?

SINGLETON: He wrote that down.


SINGLETON: And I may have put the direction of the arrow -


SINGLETON: Showing the direction that he was going.

DE LA RIONDA: The defendant was driving? OK. The next -- what appears here is something in pink in an x. What is the significance of that?

SINGLETON: That is supposed to indicate where Trayvon was when he first saw him. DE LA RIONDA: OK. So the defendant is telling you he is driving this way and he comes into contact and sees Trayvon Martin, the victim, right here where the x is?

SINGLETON: Yes, that's where he says he sees him first.

DE LA RIONDA OK. All right. In terms of using this map, I see what appears to be a line going this way. Tell me the significance of that.

SINGLETON: OK. Now the line that leaves the car shows the route of car. And the line that leaves the x shows the route of where he says Trayvon passed him and then went behind the first set of houses there.


SINGLETON: The houses to the right of the clubhouse. You see three. They're at the top of the t.

DE LA RIONDA: Right here?


DE LA RIONDA: Further down here? OK. Let's go back, if we could, to right here. Is this what you understood to be the clubhouse area that I'm circling right here?


DE LA RIONDA: OK. There appears to be here an x and some lines right here. Do you see that? This --

SINGLETON: Yes, I believe it should say 911. That's where his car went -


SINGLETON: And he said he called 911 there.

DE LA RIONDA: May I approach the witness again?


DE LA RIONDA: I want to give you the actual exhibit. We have that up there, but just to make sure. So that x is the 911 (INAUDIBLE). So tell us again the significance of this right here that I'm circling, this part of this exhibit.

SINGLETON: OK, you'll see from the first place he says the car is, there's a line that shows him going there. And then instead of putting car at that location, because he said he remained in his car, we used 911 to show that's where he was when he was in his car and called 911.

DE LA RIONDA: OK. Now on this exhibit, are there two lines, one going this way and the other one going the same way but there are two lines going parallel at that point?

SINGLETON: Yes. The x indicates Trayvon Martin. The first x all the way to the left.

DE LA RIONDA: All the way over here?

SINGLETON: And then it's supposed to be a line showing the x stops at the car at some point where he says he looked into the car.

DE LA RIONDA: He being Trayvon Martin looked into the defendant's car?

SINGLETON: That's what George Zimmerman is explaining happens, yes.

DE LA RIONDA: OK. OK. Go ahead.

SINGLETON: And then when he - when I asked him, draw now a line where you say, after Trayvon leaves you, where he ends up when he's out of your sight. And that's the arrow that goes straight and ends up behind the houses right there.


SINGLETON: If you go up a little bit, that line, he ends up - he's -- it's right behind the house where he says that's when he loses sight of him.


SINGLETON: He follows the street around and goes there.

DE LA RIONDA OK. And that's where the defendant claims that he lost sight of Trayvon Martin?


DE LA RIONDA: OK. Now, you also have something here and I can't make out what that is, but it's pink and it's some kind of writing there. Tell me the significance of that, if you could.

SINGLETON: Well see how the car, where it was now on, leaves - this mic's (ph) not (INAUDIBLE) -- leaves the clubhouse. I asked him to draw where he goes from there. He initially wrote that he stopped there, but then he scribbled that out to change where the car ends up a little bit more forward where it says "car."

DE LA RIONDA: OK. Right here?

SINGLETON: If that's where it says car.

DE LA RIONDA: So he originally had it here and then it moves here. What happens over here?

SINGLETON: The circle means that's where he said Trayvon circled his car.

DE LA RIONDA: So where that circle is and the x, that is where the defendant claims that Trayvon Martin came up and circled his car, is that correct?


DE LA RIONDA: OK. Tell us what, in terms of the defendant is telling you using this Google map, what he claims occurred after that?

SINGLETON: Trayvon leaves that area and goes straight into the t, at the top of the t. He doesn't know --

DE LA RIONDA: An I -- am I pointing it out here this way, this route?



SINGLETON: He says at -- at the top of the t, at the intersect, he doesn't know if Trayvon continues straight or if he went down.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: OK, let me - let me - I'm going to point -

SINGLETON: Between the houses.

DE LA RIONDA: I'm going to point this cursor and tell me if I'm going right (ph). The defendant's claiming he didn't know if Trayvon Martin went this way or went down this way?

SINGLETON: Yes, that was my understanding.

DE LA RIONDA: OK. What else does the defendant then claim?

SINGLETON: That he got out of the car to locate a house address so that he could better tell dispatch where he was. This is all on the tape, though, so you can hear exactly what he said.

DE LA RIONDA: Right. Right. So the defendant is claiming he got out of vehicle right here to try to get an address so he could tell dispatch where he was at?


DE LA RIONDA: OK. What happens then to the defendant? And the reason I'm asking is, it appears to be lines going this way. If you could, tell us the significance of that.

SINGLETON: It's probably just a second (INAUDIBLE). He says that he goes all the way across the t to the other side.

DE LA RIONDA: OK. Stop me if I'm going too far. Does he claim he's going like this?


DE LA RIONDA: All the way to this street?


DE LA RIONDA: OK. What is the defendant claim he -- occurs when he gets over to the street that circles the whole retreat at Twin Lakes? SINGLETON: I believe that's where he says he lost - he lost him. He's telling dispatch he doesn't know - he no longer knows where he is.


SINGLETON: He says the -- when he was there is when he no longer knew for sure which direction Trayvon had gone.


SINGLETON: And thought maybe he was hiding.

DE LA RIONDA: Meaning he didn't know whether Trayvon Martin went this way or whether he went this way right here, one of those two?


DE LA RIONDA: OK. What does this defendant then claim at this point?

SINGLETON: He discusses with dispatch whether or not the police should still come to the scene and it's agreed that they will.

DE LA RIONDA: OK. What else does the defendant claim as to what occurred?

SINGLETON: He begins to walk past back to the vehicle, which would mean he has to go past the intersection to see again to go back to where he parked.

DE LA RIONDA: OK. Am I going the right way?


DE LA RIONDA: OK. Stop me whenever he says something else happened.

SINGLETON: He says it happens at the intersection of the t. A little bit past it.

DE LA RIONDA: Right here?


DE LA RIONDA: OK. What does this defendant claim happens there?

SINGLETON: That Trayvon approaches him. He's not sure exactly where he came from.

DE LA RIONDA: OK. In the interview that you conducted of Mr. Zimmerman, the defendant, he said something - he came out of the bushes or something. Were you trying to use in this Google map determine or have him point out where it was that he claims the defendant - the victim came out of?

SINGLETON: Right. Because in some of the areas you can see bushes, but I couldn't particularly see them in that area, so I was trying to figure out what he was attempting to say. DE LA RIONDA OK. What happens then?

SINGLETON: He says that's when Trayvon approaches him and said what he said on the tape.

DE LA RIONDA: OK. All right.


DE LA RIONDA: All right. You have - you have it appears an x is drawn right here.

SINGLETON: That is the location that he said that when he was calling for help and saw somebody at a residence, he indicated that was the area that he had seen the person from a residence that would be located in that area.

DE LA RIONDA: OK. Ma'am, you've conducted an interview, recorded an interview, and then you conducted a second interview using the Google map. At this point then do you take additional steps regarding your interview of the defendant? Specifically, do you give him paper for him to write out a written statement?

SINGLETON: Oh, yes. I had him fill out a statement form.

DE LA RIONDA: Thank you, your honor.

SINGLETON: I just explained to him as best he could to explain everything he had told me in the interview, to be very detailed as to what he told me and try to put that in writing.

DE LA RIONDA: Now, in terms of the written statement, did you actually sit with him and go OK, this is not right, change this or all that, or how did that occur? Did you leave him alone or where you in there with him telling him you've got to write this, you got to write this or how did that proceed?

SINGLETON: No. When I gave - when I gave him the paperwork to write the statement, I left the room. And when I came back, he was done. And I had him sign them. I didn't read them. And I turned them over to investigators (INAUDIBLE).

DE LA RIONDA: All right. And when you say you actually gave him paper - let me -- may I approach the witness, your honor?

JUDGE: You may.

DE LA RIONDA: I'm going to show state's exhibit 175 as previously been shown to council and I believe there's no objection.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes, thank you.

DE LA RIONDA: Let me show you state's exhibit 175. Do you recognize state's exhibit 175?

SINGLETON: I do. This is the statement that George Zimmerman wrote that night.


SINGLETON: And I witnessed.

DE LA RIONDA: And I believe is that four actual pages?

SINGLETON: I believe it was four, but I'll check. Yes, it's four.

DE LA RIONDA: And when you say four actual pages, what do you mean by that in terms of - and yet you actually witnessed what either you -- every page you kind of write --

SINGLETON: Right. I don't mean that I - I don't mean that I witnessed him filling these out. I witnessed that he signed and that is his signature on each page. And I -- they swear to it that they affirm that everything they wrote in the statement is true and they say yes and they sign each one and that's what I'm witnessing.

DE LA RIONDA: OK. So he actually signed each page?

SINGLETON: Yes. And I did as well.

DE LA RIONDA: I'm sorry, you did as a witness too?


DE LA RIONDA: OK. All right, ma'am, let me do this. I apologize. May I approach the witness?


DE LA RIONDA: I'm going to leave you exhibit 175. I gather the pages are numbered in some way, some fashion at the bottom?

SINGLETON: Yes. Down at the bottom it says one of four, so the second should say two of four, three of four, four of four. And it just goes along.

DE LA RIONDA: Now what I'm going to do is blow this up so the jury can see it and get just the first part first. Are you getting just -- what is up there at the very top?

SINGLETON: That's already preset print on the page, and then he just fills out the information it's asking for.

DE LA RIONDA: And that would indicate what, his name?

SINGLETON: Name, address, date of birth, social security number, phone number, city, DL number would be driver's license number.

DE LA RIONDA: How can I clear it?


Ma'am, I'm going to go into the actually written part of the exhibit. First part here, this is his handwriting, the defendant's handwriting, is that correct?


DE LA RIONDA: OK, and if you could go ahead and read what he wrote?

SINGLETON: In August of 2011 -- I can't read with the lights down.

DE LA RIONDA: Oh, can you read it from over there? It's going to test your 00 it's an eyesight test.

SINGLETON: It's not good. Although I do wear contacts, they're not very helpful sometimes.

DE LA RIONDA: OK, I think jurors can see that. OK, go ahead.

SINGLETON: All right, in August of 2011, my -- I don't know what it says there -- my something-house ...

DE LA RIONDA: Neighbor's.

SINGLETON: OK. My neighbor's house was broken into while she was home with her infant son. The intruders attempted to ...


SINGLETON: I think so -- attack her and did, however. SPD reported to the scene of it, of the crime and the robbers fled. My wife saw the intruders running from the home and became scared of the rising crime within our neighborhood.

I and my neighbors formed a neighborhood watch program. We were instructed by SPD to call the nonemergency line if we saw something suspicious and 911 if we saw a crime in progress.

DE LA RIONDA: OK, let me interrupt you for a second. How do I go back and get the second part? OK, go ahead. I'm sorry.

SINGLETON: Tonight I was on my way to the grocery store when I saw a male, approximately 5'11" to 6'2", casually walking in the rain looking into homes.

I pulled my vehicle over and called the SPD nonemergency phone number. I told the dispatcher what I witnessed and the dispatch took note of my location and the suspect -- I think it says possibly fled.

DE LA RIONDA: OK, and now the word "suspect," that's his word? You weren't --- were you telling him to put certain words to describe the person we now know as Trayvon Martin?

SINGLETON: No, I didn't tell him any words to use. I told him to tell me -- to put in writing what he had already explained to me and to be as detailed as he could.

DE LA RIONDA: OK, let me stop you a second. A place for him to sign and a place for you to sign as a witness, is that correct ?


DE LA RIONDA: OK. I think we're going to go to page two, but give me a second to catch up to you.

Page two, the top part reads the same. It's just got his name and then I'm going to highlight the first part. If you could, go ahead and read. I apologize.

SINGLETON: You want me to begin?

DE LA RIONDA: I'm sorry. Yes, please.

SINGLETON: In a darkened area of the sidewalk as the dispatcher was asking me for the exact location, the suspect emerged from darkness and circled my vehicle. I could not hear if he said anything. The suspect once again disappeared behind ...

DE LA RIONDA: Could that be between?

SINGLETON: Possibly.


SINGLETON: Between some of the houses. The dispatcher once again asked me for my exact location, and I could not remember the name of the street. So I got out of my car to look for the street sign. The dispatcher asked for a description and the direction the suspect went.

DE LA RIONDA: Let me interrupt you a second. Hold on one second. Sorry. OK. Go ahead. I apologize.

SINGLETON: I told the dispatcher I did not know, but I was out of my vehicle looking in -- I'm sorry -- looking for a street sign and direction the suspect went.

The dispatcher told me not to follow the suspect and that an officer was en route and I headed back to my vehicle -- when I headed back to my vehicle -- I'm sorry -- it's as I headed back to my vehicle the suspect emerged from the darkness and said, you got a problem?

I said, no. The suspect said, you do now.

I can't figure out what that last word is. You do now and ...


SINGLETON: ... and looked, maybe.

DE LA RIONDA: OK. All right.

SINGLETON: It maybe says, and looked.

DE LA RIONDA: All right, we're going to move onto page three, but let me just stop you before you read that, and we're going to highlight the first part. Again, he uses the word "suspect" to refer to Trayvon Martin. Have you uttered those words or have you informed him in any way that's the word he's supposed to use to refer to Trayvon Martin?


DE LA RIONDA: Thank you.

Go ahead, page three.

SINGLETON: I finished off -- and looked and tried to -- I guess he's trying to say, I looked and tried to find my phone to dial 911.

The suspect pushed me. The suspect punched me in the face. I fell back ...

DE LA RIONDA: Backwards.

SINGLETON: I fell backwards onto my back. The suspect got on top of me. I yelled, help, several times.

The suspect told me ...


... the suspect grabbed my head and slammed it into the concrete sidewalk several times.

I continued to call -- I continued to yell help. Each time, I attempted to sit up the suspect slammed my head into the sidewalk.

DE LA RIONDA: Hold on. I'm sorry. I'm trying to catch up here. OK, sorry. Go ahead.

SINGLETON: My head felt like it was going to explode. I tried to slide out from under the suspect and continued to yell help.

As I slid, the suspect covered my mouth and nose and stopped my breathing. At this point, I felt the suspect reach for my now-exposed ...


... my firearm.

DE LA RIONDA: Could that be unholstered?

SINGLETON: Yes, that would make more sense. Unholstered my firearm, in fear of being -- in fear of my life. I unholstered my firearm in fear for my life as he had assumed ...

DE LA RIONDA: Could that be assured?

SINGLETON: You think it says what?

DE LA RIONDA: I can't speculate. Whatever -- whatever -- I believe the word is assured, A-S-S-U-R-E-D.

SINGLETON: As he -- I don't know if it's assumed or assured he was going to kill ....

DE LA RIONDA: Before you get to page four, we've got to pull it up.

SINGLETON: OK, now I've seen the whole sentence maybe I can figure out what it says.

My life as he assured he was going to kill me ...


SINGLETON: ... and fired one shot into his torso. The suspect sat back allowing me to sit up and said, you got me.

At this point I slid out from underneath him and got on top of the suspect, holding his hands away from his body, and another ...

DE LA RIONDA: An onlooker?

SINGLETON: ... an onlooker appeared and asked me if I was OK. I said, no. He said, I was calling 911. I said, I don't need you to call 911. I already called them. I need you to help me restrain this guy.

At this point, SPD officer arrived and asked, who shot him? I said, I did and I placed my hands on top of my head and told the officer where on my person my firearm was holstered. The officer handcuffed me and disarmed me. The officer then placed me in the back of his vehicle.

DE LA RIONDA: And you signed that last page also like you had the prior four pages.

SINGLETON: Yes. All of them.

DE LA RIONDA: OK. Now the defendant continuously refers to Trayvon Martin -- the person we now know as Trayvon Martin as a suspect, correct?

SINGLETON: He did in the statement.

DE LA RIONDA: He did in that written statement. In the prior statements he did not. The prior audio statements, he didn't refer to him as a suspect, did he?

SINGLETON: No, he did not refer to him as a suspect in anything but this.

DE LA RIONDA: OK. All right. And when police officers are talking about a person they suspect of doing a criminal -- of being a criminal, of committing a crime, do they refer to them as suspect?

SINGLETON: Yes, we do. If we suspect them of a crime, they're a suspect.

DE LA RIONDA: OK. Your honor, I don't know if now would be the time to take a recess or ...

JUDGE: It would be a good time to recess. Ladies and gentlemen, we're going to recess for lunch. And while you're getting your notepads put face down on the chairs, I'm going to remind you that during the lunchtime you're not to have any discussions amongst yourself or with anybody about the case.

You're not to read or listen to any radio, television, or newspaper reports about the case. You're not to use any type of electronic device to get on the Internet to do independent research about the case, people, places things or terminology.

And, finally, you're not to read or create any e-mails, text messages, Twitters, tweets, blogs, or social networking pages about the case.

Do I have your assurance that you will abide by these instructions? OK, we'll be back at 1:30. So please fold your notepads down and follow...


ASHLEIGH BANFIELD, CNN ANCHOR: Judge Debra Nelson warns this jury, daily and often, do not tweet, do not read, do not discussion, do not talk.

This is a sequestered jury for a reason, highly publicized case, a lot of information out there on the blogs, some of it wrong, some of it right, some of it so off-base.