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Protests Continue in Egypt; NSA Leaker Still in Russia; Firefighters Die in Arizona Wildfire; Heat Wave Hits West Coast; George Zimmerman Trial Continues Today

Aired July 2, 2013 - 07:00   ET

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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: He should be expelled and returned home.

CHRIS CUOMO, CNN ANCHOR: Nowhere to go. Edward Snowden blasts the U.S. but can't seem to find a country to take him in. Time to come home?

KATE BOLDUAN, CNN ANCHOR: The fallen. The wildfire that took the lives of 19 men is now growing as we get new details of who those heroes are and how they lived.

MICHAELA PEREIRA, CNN ANCHOR: Bad joke. The teenager now in jail after joking online about a shooting. Should a joke be illegal? His father joins us live.

CUOMO: Your NEW DAY starts right now.

ANNOUNCER: What you need to know.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The crew said that they're deploying the shelters and there was a long period of silence.

ANNOUNCER: What you just have to see.

This is NEW DAY with Chris Cuomo, Kate Bolduan, and Michaela Pereira.

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CUOMO: Good morning, everybody. Welcome back to NEW DAY. It is Tuesday, July 2nd, 7:00 in the east. We're in the middle of 30 minutes of commercial free news. I'm Chris Cuomo.

BOLDUAN: I'm Kate Bolduan. We're joined by news anchor Michaela Pereira. Coming up this morning, a crucial day in the George Zimmerman trial. Investigators take the stand for the prosecution, but did they end up helping the defense more? We'll hear from our legal experts Vinnie Politan, Danny Suvalis, and Nancy Grace coming up.

CUOMO: Do you have problems with your neighbors? How would you like living next to these people? Million dollar homes up for sale, neighbors accused of throwing dead animals onto the competition's lawn. You have to hear this real estate feud to believe it. PEREIRA: And from that to a sweet story. We introduce you to a duck who needs a little help, he needs a foot, a hand with his foot. Does that make sense? Creative owners from 3D printing technology. We have the awesome video of his new foot.

Following lots of developments, first off in the developing case of the NSA leaker Edward Snowden. Venezuela's president has issued a strong statement of support, saying the world must protect Snowden in his search for safe haven. This comes as he expanded his, quote, "wish list" for political asylum but withdrew a request for asylum in Russia after hearing their conditions for granting it. CNN's Phil Black is live in Moscow this morning. These developments seem to be changing at every moment, so what is the latest, Phil?

PHIL BLACK, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Very quickly, Kate, indeed. To that extent the list has really grown to a total of 21 countries. That's how many Edward Snowden has asked around the globe to take him in and protect him. We're getting some answers, and this really is updating almost by the minute.

So you mentioned Venezuela there as a maybe, Bolivia has also said it's a maybe. India, no, Austria, no, Poland, Spain, no, all of these countries saying largely no on technical grounds. They say he has to be on their territory to formally apply for asylum.

As this has happened we have also heard from Edward Snowden directly for the first time since he fled Hong Kohn. He has released a statement fiercely criticizing the United States and what he says are its attempt to stop him receiving asylum in another country.

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BLACK: Edward Snowden still has no imminent or obvious option for escaping the Moscow airport he arrived at more than a week ago. In a statement he says he is unbound in his convictions. "The Obama administration is afraid of you, afraid of an informed, angry public demanding the constitutional government it was promised, and it should be."

Snowden with help from the group WikiLeaks, has now formally asked 19 more countries for asylum in addition to his early applications to Ecuador and Iceland. He accuses the United States of using fear and political aggression to block those requests.

"Now it is being reported after promising not to do so the president has ordered his vice president to pressure the leaders of nations from which I have requested protection to deny my asylum petitions."

Russia was among the countries Snowden asked protection, but he withdrew that after President Vladimir Putin said it's not possible as long as Snowden continues leaking secret U.S. information. Putin said if Snowden wishes to stay in Russia he must, quote, "stop his work in harming our American partners."

The electronics surveillance capabilities Snowden has revealed to the world were first implemented during the administration of George W. Bush. President Bush told CNN's Robyn Curnow Snowden has compromised that program and the United States.

GEORGE W. BUSH, FORMER U.S. PRESIDENT: I know he dammed the country. The Obama administration will deal with it.

ROBYN CURNOW, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Do you think it's possible for one man to really damage the security of the nation?

BUSH: I think he damaged the security of the country.

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BLACK: Snowden has also asked France and German for asylum, two countries we know are very angry with the United States because of its electronic surveillance program. The key question, are they angry enough to now help Edward Snowden?

BOLDUAN: That's a question we hope to get more information about today. Phil Black, thanks so much.

CUOMO: Happening right now President Obama is on his way back to the United States following a whirlwind, week-long tour of three African countries. Earlier this among in Tanzania he was joined by his predecessor George W. Bush to lay a wreath for the victims of the deadly 1998 U.S. embassy attack. CNN's Brianna Keilar joins us live from Tanzania. Good morning, Brianna.

BRIANNA KEILAR, CNN WHITE HOUSE CORRESPONDENT: Good morning. President Obama met with former president George W. Bush at that memorial for those killed in the 1998 embassy bombing here in Tanzania, a bombing by Al Qaeda. And they also greeted survivors of that bombing, some of whom actually still work at the embassy, so a somber moment this morning.

But there was also a much lighter moment as President Obama turned a power plant, a public-private venture meant to highlight the policy toward Africa that he has unveiled during his trip here, one of trade, not aid, when it comes to health care. When it comes to good and also when it comes to power, he demonstrated what's called a socket ball, a soccer ball kids can kick around and then using it as a battery at night to plug a lamp in so they can read. And this is a huge issue for Africans. Most of them don't have access to reliable power. Here in a commercial center of Tanzania where we're staying in what's really a rather nice hotel, we've lost power two times in the last day. So that just goes to show you.

And also first lady Michelle Obama participated with former first lady Laura Bush in an African first ladies summit focusing on women's issues, and she sort of capped off the trip by Insta-gramming out a picture of what was a very colorful departure ceremony, and they're now on their way back to the U.S., Chris.

CUOMO: Brianna, thank you very much.

BOLDUAN: Now to Arizona, the Yarnell Hill wildfire that claimed the lives of 19 fire fighters is still burning out of control this morning, destroying nearly 9,000 acres and counting. This morning a tight-knit community is trying to make sense of the devastating also of almost an entire company of men in an elite unit. Most of those heroes young men in their 20s and early 30s. CNN's Stephanie Elam is in Prescott, Arizona, with the very latest. Good morning, Stephanie.

STEPHANIE ELAM, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Good morning, Kate. It's a devastating loss for a small town where everyone knows their neighbor, everyone know who lives here. When you lose 19 men, those men being fathers, sons, some just about to become fathers, it's a huge loss. We have been watching as people have been bringing out water, flowers, wreaths, anything to remember their hometown heroes who died.

These 19 men worked at a group called Hot Shots. They get in there. They go to the fire lines, they get the closest to try to make a break between those burning fires and also to stop and contain those flames. These men went out there. They did that. They deployed their safety shelters but it just wasn't enough.

At this point the investigation is continuing into what could have gone wrong. At the same time the community is mourning, and these firefighters that are left after losing 20 percent of this one town's firefighting team are left to continue to pick up the pieces and continue to fight this fire, which is not contained at this point.

BOLDUAN: Stephanie, thank you so much. You see the pain on their faces, and the reality, as Stephanie says, is they've got get help of their friends.

CUOMO: And they're doing it without the help of their best, the special forces of firefighters, the 19 men who were the best of the best. They're called the Hot Shots. They go to places with heavy equipment most can't reach and clear brush and establish fine lines to keep flames from spreading.

CNN's Kyung Lah has more on the Granite Mountain Hot Shots.

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JULIANN ASHCRAFT, WIFE OF VICTIM ANDREW ASHCRAFT: They're real people with real families. They died. They were heroes in our home, heroes in our community.

KYUNG LAH, CNN CORRESPONDENT: A community that now grieves. The 19 Granite Mountain Hot Shots have names, their average age just 27 years old.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We have few words that express that kind of sorrow. When you take a person in your arms and you hug them, you don't have to say too much.

LAH: Twenty-on-year-old Kevin Woyjek followed in the footsteps of his father, a Los Angeles fire captain.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You spend your whole life protecting your children. Words can't describe the loss I'm feeling right now.

LAH: And 30 year old Chris McKenzie also wanted to be like his dad, a firefighter, so he joined the department two years ago. And 29 Andrew Ashcraft, an athlete, a go-getter, but most importantly a husband to wife Julianne. She learned that her husband had died while watching the news with her four children.

TOM ASHCRAFT, FATHER OF VICTIM ANDREW ASHCRAFT: We all miss him very much and consider him a hero along with all the other men that died.

LAH: Twenty-five-year-old Billy Wernecki, a four-year Iraq war veteran, was expecting his first baby with wife Roxanne. And 26-year- old Sean Misner was supposed to be the best man at his friend's wedding.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We were close enough that I still say "I love you" when I still said good-bye to him on the phone, and it's hard to tell him anything, just that I love him and he'll take care of his family for him.

LAH: Their end too early, their bodies moved out of the charred fields, past the residents they gave their very lives to save.

Kyung Lah, CNN, Prescott, Arizona.

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BOLDUAN: Kyung, thank you so much. I read from one of the things of the town officials is you either knew them or knew someone that knew them, because it really is a small, tight knit community.

CUOMO: One thing you know is that while so tragic that they have been lost, what they would want is for that fire to keep getting fought and push it back, because that was their mission.

BOLDUAN: They knew they had a risky, but no one deserves anything like this. That's absolutely right.

The firefighters battling the flames, they continue to do that. They're getting no relief at least for the moment from the intense heat hitting much of the country. Millions of people will face more of that deadly western heat wave today and the triple-digit temperatures are showing no signs of letting up.

And the weather just as extreme on the opposite coast, flooding rains drenched the Carolinas to New England. Let's start with Dan Simon in Las Vegas, where triple digit temperatures are expected through the Fourth of July holiday. So Dan, how are you doing this morning?

DAN SIMON, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Hi, Kate, good morning. There's no relieve even at night. Here we are, it's a little after 4:00 in the morning in Las Vegas. And it's 90 degrees. And this is a theme we're seeing throughout the west coast. Take a look.

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SIMON: All across the west it was another way of oppressive heat. This as a so-called cooling station in Las Vegas, a place for people to get a break from the triple digit temperatures. The Salvation Army says 300 people a day are coming through its doors to escape the unrelenting weather.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Not only do they get the cooling station but they can take showers for free. They can get as much water as you can possibly utilize in a day where normally they walk around looking for it.

SIMON: The casualties continue to mount. In southern California authorities announced that six runners who braved a half-marathon had to be hospitalized for heat related injuries. Relief comes in all forms.

JEFF UNDERWOOD: I get a lot of customers just very happy to see me.

SIMON: In Sacramento this air conditioner repairman has never been easier. In Phoenix church groups distribute bottled water as quickly as possible. In Santa Cruz cooler temperatures at the beach seem heavenly, and back in Las Vegas children flock to an ice skating rink. What's also concerning places not normally known for sizzling temperatures are also feeling the effects, Utah, Wyoming, Oregon, Washington, and Idaho have sweltering heat.

ALAN KIRKPATRICK, TOURIST: I don't know if you've ever ironed your own shirts and the smell of the ironing board. That's what it smelled like at poolside.

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SIMON: Everyone has their description, their own analogy to describe things here in Las Vegas. Paramedics have gone on dozens of heat related calls in the last few days. And Chris, it just seems like it will not let up any time soon.

CUOMO: Dan, thank you very much. While the southwest is coping with the heat the east coast is getting drenched with rain. Stormy weather has brought flooding, tornadoes to New York and New Jersey and Connecticut. One actually touched down Monday in Berkeley Heights, New Jersey.

Let's get over to Indra Petersons. This is getting biblical in terms of the wrath of weather on us.

INDRA PETERSONS, AMS METEOROLOGIST: For tune in and pretty much the entire is looking at record rainfall. On the west coast the dome of high pressure is pulling in moisture from the gulf which is relief. That's good news on the west coast. But another dome of high pressure all in the east is pulling moisture along the eastern seaboard. That is not good news. It means more flooding, one to three inches even heavier amounts in the thunderstorms. We're talking about rain, two to four inches in some of the heavier thunderstorms seen in Florida.

So this pattern is not changing. I keep talking the dome of high pressure. It's all about the placement of this high. If it's far off the coast, winds go in clockwise around it, you pull in closer to the coastline. It's supposed to go closer, which confuses people. They thing we will get more rain on the coast. Not exactly the case. The rain would actually go farther inland. We have to watch the position of this. That's going to be watching as far as rain. We do know on the west coast it is going to be hot, temperatures record-breaking again. So fourth of July, I don't know, movies, east coast, west coast?

BOLDUAN: We're going to the beach, going to be optimistic.

PETERSONS: You're absolutely correct.

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PETERSONS: I should know that.

BOLDUAN: Indra, thank you so much.

There's clearly a lot of news developing this hour, so let's get straight to Michaela for some of the headlines.

PEREIRA: All right, Kate, Chris. Good morning to all of you. Egypt on edge this morning, protesters there threatening to march on Cairo's presidential palace. They want the country's first elected president Mohamed Morsi to step down. The Egyptian military issued an ultimatum to Morsi, satisfy the public's demands by tomorrow or it will step in to restore order. President Obama reached out to Morsi urging him to respond to the mass demonstrations that have resulted in at least 16 deaths.

Fort Hood shooting suspect Major Nadal Hassan is expected to plead -- enter a not guilty plea when he appears in a military courtroom today. He is charged in the 2009 shootings that left 13 dead. Jury selection gets underway next week for Hassan's court-martial. If convicted the former army psychiatrist faces execution or life without parole. Hassan is acting as his own attorney during the trial.

Former Arizona Congresswoman Gabrielle Giffords' seven-day seven state tour to promote responsible gun ownership started with a bang. And with that pull of a trigger in Nevada, a milestone. It's the first time she's fired a gun since the 2011 Tucson shooting. Giffords and her husband Mark Kelly both proud gun owners but they want to widen background checks to include gun shows and the internet.

All right, some crazy video to show you. Do not, I'm telling you, do not try this at home. This motorcyclist pulled off a five-person wheelie, held it for at least two minutes. Apparently happening in Pakistan. You can see the one kid at the back practically dangling off the back. This is what I'd be doing facing the driver hanging on for dear life and we should also note, none of them are wearing helmets, so this is not safe. Crazy video we had to show you.

BOLDUAN: Here's a question - which position do you prefer to be in? Which is better --

PERIERA: Where I can't see anything happening, burying my head in his chest?

BOLDUAN: Further away or closer to the ground?

CUOMO: Personally I want to be the guy driving.

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BOLDUAN: Personally I want to be a guy filming him from another motorcycle.

PERIERA: Or a car. Even better.

CUOMO: Impressive but dumb.

Coming up on NEW DAY, huge day in the George Zimmerman trial yesterday. You had investigators for the prosecution on the stand seemed to help the defense and the prosecution made its biggest call of the trial to use an interview of George Zimmerman. What will that mean? We'll take you through it.

BOLDUAN: And authorities in Texas say a 19-year-old's Facebook posting is no laughing matter, but is it a crime? The man says it was all a joke, but right now he's sitting in a Texas jail.

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BOLDUAN: Welcome back to NEW DAY. A stunning day in the trial of George Zimmerman. Two investigators took the stand for the prosecution, but at times, they seemed to do more to help the defense. One of them will give more testimony today.

CNN's George Howell is live in Sanford, Florida, tracking the latest for us. Good morning, George.

GEORGE HOWELL, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Good morning. So, we do expect that testimony from Chris Serino to resume this morning and by way of his investigation we'll hear more from George Zimmerman, telling his side of the story to this jury without even opening his mouth in court.

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HOWELL: The first investigator to interview George Zimmerman took the stand on day six of the trial. Doris Singleton explained the process.

DET. DORIS SINGLETON, SANFORD POLICE DEPARTMENT: It was recorded on a -- just a voice recorder that they gave us.

HOWELL: Then, prosecutors played the tape. The jury listened closely.

GEORGE ZIMMERMAN, DEFENDANT: There's been a few times where I've seen a suspicious person in the neighborhood. We call the police non- emergency line and these guys always get away.

HOWELL: A key witness for the state, Singleton told the jury Zimmerman agreed to be interviewed without an attorney present. She says he didn't realize Trayvon Martin died from the shooting until she told him. She told defense attorneys Zimmerman dropped his head to the table. MARK O'MARA, DEFENSE ATTORNEY: Did he evidence that he was angry with Trayvon Martin?

SINGLETON: No.

O'MARA: That he had hatred for him.

SINGLETON: No.

O'MARA: Spite or ill will?

SINGLETON: No.

O'MARA: That he had anything that would suggest to you some type of bad attitude towards Trayvon Martin?

SINGLETON: No.

O'MARA: Rather he seemed to be affected by the fact that he realized that Trayvon Martin had passed?

SINGLETON: He seemed affected by that.

HOWELL: One day after the shooting and George Zimmerman returned to this neighborhood with lead investigator Chris Serino to do a video re-enactment.

Serino later conducted a more aggressive interview, challenging Zimmerman on some points. For instance, in the first statement, Zimmerman talked about Trayvon Martin jumping out of bushes to ambush him. In the re-enactment he didn't mention that, but in court, Serino's final analysis --

O'MARA: Did you notice anything to bring to the jury's attention today that caused you that concern?

DET. CHRIS SERINO, SANFORD POLICE DEPARTMENT: No, not that I can articulate, no, sir.

HOWELL: There was also the testimony from Dr. Hirotaka Nakasone, an FBI audio analyst for the defense who was called to the stand by prosecutors, his focus, the 911 call where you can hear screaming in the background. While he told jurors it's not possible to determine age or analyze this tape through science Dr. Nakasone left one possibility wide open.

DR. HIROTAKA NAKASONE, FBI AUDIO ANALYSE: For this particular case, best approach would be from the voice recognition by the individual who have heard him in his whole life.

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HOWELL: So, that testimony from Dr. Nakasone very important for the prosecution, because in many ways it opens the door for a laywitness, for example for one of Trayvon Martin's family members to come in and say that is the voice of my son on that 911 audio tape where we hear screaming. And again, we do expect to hear from one of those family members at some point in the coming days as this trial moves along, Chris.

CUOMO: That is exactly right, George. Great analysis there for us. Appreciate the reporting.

All right, let's break down why this was such an important day in the Zimmerman trial. For the prosecution, come on give me something, wall (ph). There you go. Tale of the tape. This was their big decision. They had to decide whether this use the interview and they did, obviously, and what did they get out of it? Inconsistencies where his story was different, goes to his credibility. Makes people doubt whether or not he's telling the truth.

Who was screaming? This is what George was talking about. When the expert says I can't tell, sounds like it's bad for the prosecution but it isn't because it opens the door for the, to use the family to identify the voice. It will be very emotional and compelling.

For the defense, kill without ill will. Remember second-degree murder, you have to show depraved mind, evil intent. You get the investigators supposed to be for the prosecution but they wind up saying Zimmerman didn't seem like he was that kind of angry. What will that mean to the jury? Testify without testifying. The downside for the prosecution using this tape was that now Zimmerman may not have to testify.

So, who came out ahead? As we all know, I can't answer that. That's why we have the smart people coming in with us right now. Danny Cevallos, criminal defense attorney and Vinnie Politan host of HLN's "After Dark" and a former prosecutor.

Good morning guys. Thanks. Good to have you back. Vinnie, let's start with you. The decision to use the videotaped interview by the prosecution, what was the upset, what'd they get out of it?

VINNIE POLITAN, HOST, HLN'S "AFTER DARK": There's a huge downside because now George Zimmerman --

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CUOMO: I said upside, Vinnie. Give me the upside.

POLITAN: I'm saying there's a huge downside. Here's the upside -- you talk about the bushes, okay? He said in this first interview that Trayvon Martin jumped out of the bushes, then we they go back during the re-enactment he says I don't know where he jumped out of. And I think I know why he said that, because I've been there, Chris. There really aren't any bushes in that area to jump out of. So that's a big point for prosecutors, and it's going to be tough, though, because now you don't get to cross-examine him, Chris.

CUOMO: That's exactly right, Vinnie, but you've taken Danny's point. That's why I cut you off, Vinnie, you can't have both points. You only get to make one of the points. Now I get to go to Danny and I say --

POLITCAN: So Danny can give me his time.

CUOMO: That's right, I'll get it back to you. Vinnie, you got your own show. Danny, let me ask you the downside on this. You hear what Vinnie is saying. He's making the exact right point. Now they don't get to cross-examine George Zimmerman. He may not have to testify. What do you think?

DANNY CEVALLOS, CRIMINAL DEFENSE ATTORNEY: Well, actually I think Vinnie makes probably the only good point of the prosecution's case in bringing up this video. That is an inconsistency. However, you're absolutely right. Now George Zimmerman not only has had the opportunity to testify but he's done so without being cross-examined and the jury sees that not once, not twice, not thrice but even more than that he has gone to the police and said I will tell you my story. Now, are there inconsistencies? Absolutely. As the investigators --

CUOMO: All right, so Danny let me spell them out a little bit

CEVALLOS: -- we're not robots, we can't always get it --

CUOMO: You're right. you're right. Let me cut you off because we want to -- we want to remind people what they heard in those inconsistencies, if you didn't follow the trial. Zimmerman said Martin circled his car. Why didn't he tell it to the 911 operator? That's one inconsistency.

Zimmerman says he got out of the car because he didn't know the address the street. There're only like three streets. Is that really why he got out, or is it hiding some type of intent?

He says Martin jumped out of the bushes. You heard Vinnie talking about that. There are no bushes there. Why did he say that?

Zimmerman says after he shot Martin he kept talking. Now, on that point I want to ask you both a question. Vinnie, if that's true -- if George Zimmerman is telling the truth and after he shot Trayvon Martin he was still talking let me ask you, why didn't he help him? Why didn't he staunch the wound, why didn't he make any effort at rescue? What do you think about that, Vinnie? We haven't heard it at the trial, but provocative, no?

POLITAN: Yeah, I mean that's a great argument to make for the prosecution. George Zimmerman said that after he shot him, he then got on top of him and was trying to restrain him because he was afraid Trayvon Martin was still going to attack him. You just shot him in the heart, you're afraid he's going to attack you? Really? This is where the medical examiner is going to be key to talk about what Trayvon Martin could or could not do after being shot in the heart at point blank range by George Zimmerman. So, keep tuned for that.

CUOMO: Now, Danny, when you hear the list we laid out about all the things Zimmerman had said, it does take on a complexion here. Maybe it's not a murder case but for a manslaughter case, there seems like there are a lot of ways to pick at Zimmerman, no?

CEVALLOS: You make a good point and here's why. The jury can reasonably disbelieve George Zimmerman's self-defense argument. However even if they do, the prosecution still has to meet the burden of proving that evil intent and ill will. And the Florida courts have held that that is a very high burden to meet. I don't know that they've made that out in this case.

So, if they have not, if a jury disbelieves that self-defense. If they find that he reacted with excessive force, then maybe manslaughter is the more appropriate crime. However when it comes to depraved heart murder, as defined in the Florida statutes and the courts, they expect that a person has such an ill will or hatred that they knew this person beforehand, that they hated him, that they had a -- real bad feel feelings for them. And I don't think the prosecution's made their case.

Secondly, Mark O'Mara brilliantly cross-examined the police and literally out of the language of the statute established the lack of ill will, spite, or hatred.

CUOMO: The trial is not over just because it's not a second-degree murder case. Let me ask you something, Vinnie. You put the family on the stand, if you're the prosecution? Get that emotion out there? Get them to identify the voice?

POLITAN: You finish with Sybrina Fulton. You don't put Tracy Martin on the stand, you put mom on the stand, Sybrina Fulton, and that has to be your last witness. That's how you finish this case, Chris.

CUOMO: What does she give you?

POLITAN: She's going to identify the voice. She's going to make what happened much more real to this jury and remind them that a 17-year- old boy who had Skittles and a watermelon drink is now dead because he's walking back from a 7-Eleven and some guy with a gun thought he was suspicious.

CUOMO: Absolutely. Vinnie Politan, stron point. Danny Cevallos, thank you to both you gentlement. As always.

So, we go back to the wall. What does this mean? It seems like a lot of good things happened for the defense. The investigators saying he didn't seem evil. Zimmerman maybe not have to testify, but I'll tell you what. To me, I think it's still even, why? This is not just a second-degree murder case. It's about whether or not George Zimmerman did the wrong thing when he killed Trayvon Martin and can he put out self-defense? If he doesn't testify it could be a problem for him. This case is still not over, everybody, just because just we make it a lot on TV. It's not over yet.

What do you think? Tweet me, Facebook, use the hashtag #NewDay, go to NewDay.CNN.com. Let us know what you think. Kate?

BOLDUAN: Thanks, Chris. Coming up next on NEW DAY, the housing market may be in good shape but you will not believe what some people are doing to close a sale. The dirty tricks a pair of neighbors are being accused of pulling. That's coming up.