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Egypt Under Military Control; "Deeply Concerned" About Egypt; Is Egyptian Government Overthrow a "Coup?"; Rain Or Shine; Major Progress; U.S. Slammed Over NSA Leaker Search; Missing Girl Found Dead; Potentially Damning Discoveries; Tradition Trumps Sandy; Statue Of Liberty Reopens; George Zimmerman on Trial

Aired July 4, 2013 - 06:00   ET


CHRIS CUOMO, CNN ANCHOR: Boy, oh boy. Happy Fourth of July, everybody. It's almost the top of the hour and you know what that means here on NEW DAY, time for the top news.


UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The world needs Egypt to be stable.

CUOMO (voice-over): Breaking this morning, Egypt in crisis. A new president sworn in. The old president now under arrest. Streets have erupted, dozens killed. Will there be a civil war?

KATE BOLDUAN, CNN ANCHOR: On the stand, George Zimmerman's past coming back to haunt him. People who knew him before the shooting testified. Did they prove he was a wanna be cop looking for a fight?

MICHAELA PEREIRA, CNN ANCHOR: And there she is. Lady Liberty opening today for the first time since hurricane Sandy. We're live at the statue's base helping you kick off your Fourth of July with a patriotic bang.

CUOMO: Your NEW DAY starts right now.

ANNOUNCER: This is NEW DAY with Chris Cuomo, Kate Bolduan, and Michaela Pereira.

BOLDUAN: Good morning and welcome to "New Day," everyone. It is Thursday, July fourth, probably one of the few days of the year we don't have to remind you of the date. You know exactly what it is because you're on holiday. It's six o'clock in the east. I'm Kate Bolduan. Good morning.

CUOMO: And I'm Chris Cuomo, joined us always by news anchor, Michaela Pereira. You look beautiful today.

PEREIRA: We look a bit like a flag ourselves, aren't we?

CUOMO: We do. We're looking good. We're looking good here. We're looking good for you, obviously. There she is, the most beautiful person in the room, Lady Liberty overlooking New York Harbor. We know that. She's been welcoming visitors to the country since 1886. But for the past eight months, she's been closed. Why? Hurricane Sandy, of course. Today, the grand re-opening and we are going to take you there live coming up.

BOLDUAN: And we also have a lot of news this morning, including the latest in the George Zimmerman trial. People from Zimmerman's path coming forward to testify, including an interesting witness, one of his former professors. Did they prove that he's a wannabe cop looking for a fight?

PEREIRA: We have got to show you this. Check out this giant sinkhole that suddenly opened in the middle of a busy Ohio street. The driver plummeting 20 feet down, she was trapped until rescuers were able to reach her. We have much more coming up on that. What a sight and what a fright?

CUOMO: Boy, that's scary.

First, this morning, let's get to breaking news in Egypt. This was the scene earlier this morning, an interim president being sworn in, Adly Mansour, installed by the country's military. The former president, Mohamed Morsy, the first democratically elected leader of that country, is now under arrest. Take a look at the scene last night, wild celebrations in Tahrir Square, an army chopper flying as the crowd sets off fireworks.

BOLDUAN: The sight was amazing. But there was also this, rage as Morsy supporters rail against what they call a coup, the prospect of a civil war for this key U.S. ally very real, a very tense time right now in Egypt.

CNN has the story covered like no one else does with reporters in Cairo, the White House and our Christian Amanpour right here with us in New York. First, let's go straight to CNN's Reza Sayah in Cairo. Reza, it still seems loud and still seems busy. How are things looking this morning?

REZA SAYAH, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Kate, in so many ways, it is a new day for Egypt and much of this country is loving it. Yesterday, Mohamed Morsy was the president of this country, today he is in house arrest. Egypt has a new president. His name is Adly Mansour. Until today, he was the head of Egypt's top court. He was sworn in over the past hour, part of a fast moving series of events that saw the abrupt downfall of Mohamed Morsy.


SAYAH (voice-over): This morning, after an explosive turn of events, former President Mohamed Morsy is under house arrest. The military ousted him Wednesday night after he refused to meet their deadline to form an interim coalition government and revise the constitution. Droves of military convoys flooded the streets of Egypt's capital, propelling the nation on a road toward change.

The general, chief of Egypt's Armed Forces announced that Adly Mansour, the head of Egypt's highest court will replace Morsy as interim president. While the military coup was met with cheers in Tahrir Square, across the Nile River, supporters of the deposed president chanted down with the military and the square has a million marchers denouncing his ouster. Messages sending ripples throughout this country that's already seen death and bloodshed since the huge anti-government protests began this past weekend.


SAYAH: Behind us in the iconic Tahrir Square is where we saw a massive party last night, easily more than 100,000 people, probably back here today not celebrating. Mohamed Morsy and other Muslim Brotherhood leaders either under house arrest or detained -- Chris.

CUOMO: Reza, please stay safe there. The big question, what happens next? Back at home, the White House is watching developments in Egypt very closely. Of course, let's bring in CNN's Athena Jones there watching the situation for us. Good morning.

ATHENA JONES, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Good morning. This is in many ways the second time around for this White House. The second Egyptian president to be toppled in just two and a half years and of course, making this more complicated is the fact that Morsy was democratically elected.

The president and other administration officials have been consistently stressing the importance of the democratic process in Egypt. After meeting with his national security team yesterday, the president put out a statement saying he was deeply concerned about the military's decision to oust Morsy and to suspend the constitution.

He went on to say, I now call on the Egyptian military to move quickly and responsibly to return full authority back to a democratically elected civilian government as soon as possible through an inclusive and transparent process and to avoid any arbitrary arrests of President Morsy and his supporters.

Of course, we know that former President Morsy is under house arrest. One of the things that is notable though about the statement from the president is that he did not call this a military coup. In the instance of a military coup, U.S. law dictates that aid, in this case, aid to the tune of $1.5 billion a year must be cut off. Nevertheless, the president said they're reviewing the law on this matter and, of course, they will continue to closely monitor the situation -- Chris.

CUOMO: All right, Athena Jones, thank you very much. Difficult situation, such a big ally, Kate, but not using the word "coup" raises the question, if this isn't a coup, what is?

BOLDUAN: That is a key question and one that I want to raise with our chief international correspondent, Christiane Amanpour, of course, also the host of CNN International's "AMANPOUR." I think that's the big question right now, is this a coup or not?

CHRISTIANE AMANPOUR, CNN CHIEF INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Well, you know what? I have never witnessed something like this whereby a military general comes on television and announces that the elected president is out and he is putting his own guy in. In any other country, you would call it a coup.

In Egypt, you have what they're calling a popular uprising. You have a coup backed by millions and millions of people. On the anti-Morsy side, they are absolutely adamant this is not a coup. This is just the will of the people being implemented. On the pro Morsy side, they say this was a staged military coup and nothing else to it.

As Athena says the Obama administration is bending over backwards right now not to call it a coup because it does have ripple effects with aid. I think the key is to see how long this interim government stays in. Will they move very swiftly to rewrite the constitution? There were problems with the constitution. Many Egyptians thought it was too Islamic based and not free enough for women and other minorities. Will they go to elections very, very quickly?

BOLDUAN: The president's statement, when he did put it out yesterday, was a very lengthy statement, clearly carefully worded. What do you think of the administration's response so far? It's obvious, they can do more harm than good it almost seems. They have to be careful and strike a balance.

AMANPOUR: Well, I think in any of these situations, whatever the administration does is not good enough for anybody. I think the administration has been caught flatfooted both by the Hosni Mubarak uprising and now by the Morsy uprising against these two. I think they're just waiting and watching. What happens in Egypt is fundamental for U.S. interests.

BOLDUAN: That's why this is important for all of us.

AMANPOUR: Fundamental. It is a huge and important thousand years' civilization, but it is a key to American foreign policy in that region. Let's not forget it is a reliable ally of Israel. Israel has had very good cooperation from the Morsy government with all the things that their concerned is. By the way, the U.S. has, too, very good cooperation on foreign policy from the Morsy government.

I think what's fascinating is the Arab spring as we see it, this is a turbulent stage in the emerging democracies of the Arab spring and guess who's gloating right now, Bashar Al Assad of Syria. This is what you get if you kick us out. So it's a really difficult situation.

BOLDUAN: I want to ask you quick about the question of the US aide. The U.S. provides some $1.5 billion to Egypt every year. The question is, do you -- if it's a coup, by law, we are supposed to reconsider it or stop offering aid. Isn't that offer a real risk? Isn't Egypt too important to stop providing aid?

AMANPOUR: That's why you see them bending themselves into knots trying to figure out what to call this. In fact, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs, General Martin Dempsey, said yesterday to our own Candy Crowley, yes, we have laws in this country that govern our aid. So we're watching to see whether this is a real coup. But of course, Americans don't give money to Egypt because they're being kind. It's about America's national security. Because Egypt went into this American broken alliance or other peace deal, Camp David with Israel this is what forms the base of a lot of that aid. But also, you cannot afford to have Egypt implode. That is one reason why so many people have gone out onto the streets because of the terrible economy there and sense of a state that was failing.

It is true the Muslim Brotherhood failed at governance, but I'm a little worried about a backlash and I'm concerned about what this says about democracy in that region.

BOLDUAN: And the U.S. completely pulls all aid out, you're taking any U.S. interest, take yourself out of the equation.

AMANPOUR: Which they don't want to do, they shouldn't.

BOLDUAN: Correct.

AMANPOUR: But they need to hold the military to account and make sure they go back to civilian rule ASAP.

BOLDUAN: Which lays out the difficult place that the U.S. is in and that balance you have to strike.

AMANPOUR: Difficult, but they're holding the purse string. Pick up the phone, tell your generals.



BOLDUAN: All right, Christiane, we're going to talk to you throughout the show. Thanks so much. Long day for Christiane yesterday and we'll continue following this developing story for sure.

CUOMO: The burden of being the best, Christiane. The burden of being the best.

BOLDUAN: Couldn't have said it better.

CUOMO: Thank God we have you.

So in Egypt, they're battling for the future of them as a collective. Here in America, we are celebrating our independence, that's the best. However Mother Nature already intruding on festivities for many across the country, heavy rain and flooding forecasts have forced some areas to cancel fireworks displays and concerts.

Indra Petersons on vacation. We have our man, Chad Myers, checking the weather.

MICHAELA PEREIRA: You're just excited there's another man.

CUOMO: I won't lie and he cuts a nice figure. Chad Myers, nice tie, good man. CHAD MYERS, AMS METEOROLOGIST: I went shopping for a tie for a couple hours to find this tie. If you just bought the greatest condo in the world at Panama City or Pensacola, you're not having a great day, didn't have a good day yesterday, up to 13 inches of rainfall along the coast. It's going to rain in Atlanta. It's going to rain in Knoxville and Charleston and all the way back to Cleveland.

Now I did not mention it is going to rain in Boston because it isn't. New York City, you are going to be dry. What's you are going to be is going to be hot, the hottest day of the week so far. Boston, you are going to approach 103 per heat index today, New York City, 99. You put all these people on the island or in a city trying to look at fireworks in that kind of heat, you have to keep yourselves hydrated today.

It's going to be one of those very, very hot days. It's a summer day, I get it. It's summer. It's supposed to be hot. Where we've been, it's been raining every day. Temperatures get to 80 and it rains. That's not going to happen today. The rain has moved off to the west. It's going to rain in Boston and through the weekend but not today.

It's going to rain in Cleveland, into Columbus, all the way down even to Louisiana and it will still stay hot in the west. An inch or 2 of rain into Philadelphia or Pittsburgh and back to West Virginia, but the big rain from Nashville down to the gulf coast, 4 inches in top of places they have already seen 10 inches already.

This is going to be a wet one for the southeast, but it's going to be a hot one for the northeast. We are going to be 100 degrees here. It will only feel like 87 if you're in the inside. You walk outside with the humidity. You have an index of 100 degrees right in the city.

BOLDUAN: Be careful on the holiday. Chad, great to see you in New York. Welcome to our home. Thank you so much.

All right, there's clearly a lot of news developing this hour. Let's get straight to Michaela for the latest.

PEREIRA: It would be if we get to switch the weather in the west and the east right now, couldn't we? The firefighters making major progress against the deadly Yarnell Hill fire in Arizona, containment now at 45 percent. There are concerns though about people who refused to evacuate. The heat is keeping deputies from going door-to-door to do checks. A nine-member interagency team now task with investigating the events that led to the death of 19 Prescott firefighters. It would be two to three months before they complete that report.

Now the latest in the search for NSA leaker, Edward Snowden, Bolivia's president slamming the U.S. for his unscheduled stop in Vienna amid suspicions Snowden was on his presidential plane. He was not. After arriving home, Morales said the empire and his servants will not be able to intimidate or scare us. He also said European countries need to liberate themselves from the imperialism of the Americans.

A sad update now in the search for a missing 6-year-old, whose body was found wrapped in a tarp on a residential street about a mile from where she lived in suburban Fort Worth. A 14-year-old boy riding his scooter made the gruesome discovery. Alona's parents have been ruled out as suspects. Investigators are offering a reward now of up to $10,000 for information leading to her killer.

Potentially damming discoveries for former New England Patriot Aaron Hernandez, court documents show police searched an apartment he leased and found ammunition for the same make of gun used to kill his friend, Odin Lloyd. A search warrant indicates they also found a white sweatshirt matching the one he was seen wearing on surveillance video the night Lloyd died. We'll have much more on this in our next hour.

A big sign of normalcy after Superstorm Sandy and Fourth of July tradition, the Nathan's famous Coney Island hotdog eating contest. It is on, my friends. Joey Chestnut looking for his seventh win. There is concern though, Chris had been working through the night to dismantle part of the 270 foot high Astro Tower, which has been swaying lately. Officials are hoping to reopen all of Luna Park today in order to celebrate in full the Fourth of July.

CUOMO: I got to take you, guys, there, by the way, Coney Island. You will love it, but it is one of the most special places around here.

PEREIRA: Let's go!

CUOMO: I placed third in the hotdog eating contest in 1997.

BOLDUAN: You're lying.

CUOMO: I'm lying right through my big teeth.

But I'll tell you what? We have a perfect way to celebrate the Fourth of July, one of the country's powerful symbols of freedom. Lady Liberty re-opening for the first time in months since Sandy hit eight months ago. We're going to be checking in all morning with our Pamela Brown live on the island. Look at you there, right next to the Statue of Liberty. How are you doing, Pamela?

PAMELA BROWN, CNN CORRESPONDENT: I am doing great, Chris. Mother Nature is cooperating today. It is absolutely gorgeous here on Liberty Island. You see the statue right here, re-opened to the public today eight months after Hurricane Sandy submerged her island. There will be 15,000 people pouring into the island.

Today, we're told they can come either to the island or pedestal or climb up 377 steps to the crown of the Statue of Liberty to peer out one of the 25 windows there for spectacular views on the Fourth of July. Just a little bit of fun facts for you today. We've been doing some research.

In case you were wondering, the mouth of the Statue of Liberty, 3 feet wide, in case you didn't know that. You see the tablet the Statue of Liberty is holding, turns out the index finger, 8 feet long.

Chris, Michaela, and, Kate, how long do you think the tablet is the statute is holding? No Google search is allowed. I'm going to check back in with you for my next -- just about 20 minutes from now and I want you guys to guess how long do you think the Statute of Liberty's tablet is. Put you to the test.

BOLDUAN: All right. Testing us so early on a holiday, how dare you!

We know the index finger is 8 feet long. There's our marker.

All right. Everyone at home, you start thinking as well. There's no way I'm making a guess at this point. We're going to ponder it. I think that's what we're going to say.

BROWN: No Google searchers.

BOLDUAN: All right. I can't promise you, Cuomo is a cheater so I cannot promise you.

CUOMO: You know what? That cuts deep.

BOLDUAN: Did that hurt? Did that sting?

CUOMO: That cuts deep.

PEREIRA: I'm trying to do some math here. I don't have enough fingers --

BOLDUAN: She has logarithm going on over there.

With that, we'll be back in just a few minutes.

Coming up next on NEW DAY: Did prosecutors score at the George Zimmerman trial. The raising questions about the defendant's past and his state of mind on that night he shot Trayvon Martin.

CUOMO: Plus, a menace lurking in the water decides to take a bite out of a boat. That's why I catch a fish because you don't know when they're going to come after you, all caught on camera.

BOLDUAN: Leave the sharks alone.



CUOMO: Welcome back to NEW DAY, everybody. Happy Fourth of July.

We're talking about the George Zimmerman trial. It is under way. We know that today, holiday recess. Tomorrow, we'll have more testimony.

And there were some big important moments Wednesday to tell you about. The jury heard from an expert who said he didn't find any trace of Trayvon Martin's DNA on George Zimmerman's gun. What does that mean?

Another witness says Zimmerman studied Florida's "Stand Your Ground" law.

George Howell has more.

(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE) GEORGE HOWELL, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): The day started with a parade of witnesses from George Zimmerman's past, from the professors who taught him about criminal justice --



HOWELL: To a representative from a Virginia police department that rejected his application to be a police officer.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Mr. Zimmerman had a problem with his credit?


UNIDENTIFIED MALE: And that would be a reason why you wouldn't be accepted as a police officer?

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: That's the reason why we did not consider him further based on that record. Yes, sir.

HOWELL: Zimmerman's past could haunt him if jurors are swayed by the picture prosecutors are trying to paint -- a wannabe cop who went too far, and then less than forthcoming on how well he knew the law on national TV.

SEAN HANNITY, FOX NEWS: Prior to this night, this incident, had you even heard "Stand Your Ground"?


HANNITY: You never heard about it before?


HOWELL: Captain Alexis Francisco Carter told the court part of the course he taught covered the practical application of self-defense laws, with a special focus on Florida laws, like "Stand Your Ground", and Zimmerman aced the class.

CARTER: He was probably one of the better students in the class.

HOWELL: Zimmerman's defense team argued his past training and education had no relevance to the case.

Next, prosecutors called Amy Siewert, a firearms expert with the Florida Department of Law Enforcement. Siewert testified through tests on Trayvon Martin's clothes, she was able to determine it was a contact shot that killed him.

AMY SIEWERT, FIREARMS ANALYST: It is consistent with the muzzle of the firearm touching the outer sweatshirt and the inner sweatshirt being in direct contact with the outer one, yes.

HOWELL: The final witness, Anthony Gorgone, a crime lab analyst who examined DNA samples on all the evidence in the case. Attorneys focused on the question of whose DNA was found on Zimmerman's gun.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: You were able to exclude Trayvon Martin as having DNA on the pistol grip, is that correct?

ANTHONY GORGONE, CRIME LAB ANALYST: Yes, Trayvon Martin was excluded as being possible contributor to this mixture on the grip.

HOWELL (on camera): Court resumes Friday when we are likely to hear from a member of Trayvon Martin's family to testify about who was screaming on that 911 audio tape. The state is then expected to rest its case, and then the defense will start calling its witnesses.

George Howell, CNN, Sanford, Florida.


BERMAN: Obviously, having the family there, it's going to be very emotional. It's going to remind everybody what this trial is really about, which is a young man who was defenseless, who had no weapon and lost his life.

BOLDUAN: What did you think about that inconsistency that they pointed out from George Zimmerman, when he did the interview and said he had not heard of "Stand Your Ground" laws and then they show his professor saying they talked about that, they had literature for "Stand Your Ground" laws in the class?

CUOMO: The upside for the prosecution, you're a liar. In the law, they have a Latin expression, Latin always makes it sound better, right? Falsus in uno, falsus in toto. If you lie about one thing that matters, we can assume you're lying about everything.

What it probably -- what their gamble is, will this mean to the jury, oh, wow, he did know what it was, he went there ready that night. He had a plan. If he had a plan to do something like this, that's an evil plan. If it's evil, then it goes to murder. That was the gamble there, whether it paid off, you don't know what's on the mind in the jurors.

BOLDUAN: And it will be interesting to see where the defense goes, they will always says that portion of the trial is shorter than obviously the state's case. But we'll watch it closely with you.

Coming up next on NEW DAY: you don't need a sign to tell you this. Do not pet the shark, people! There's some knowledge for you on Independence Day. We'll tell you what happened when fishermen came face to face with a great white in Australia.

BERMAN: And, good picture for you -- a car swallowed whole when a sinkhole opens up in Toledo, Ohio. We'll show you the incredible rescue as well.


CUOMO: Welcome back to NEW DAY, everybody. It is John Cougar Mellencamp. BOLDUAN: Mellencamp, Indiana.

CUOMO: Is it?

BOLDUAN: I think. Hope I didn't make that up.

CUOMO: It's Thursday, July 4th, also known as the Fourth of July. I'm Chris Cuomo.

BOLDUAN: I'm Kate Bolduan. We're here with news anchor Michaela Pereira.

PEREIRA: Good morning. Happy Fourth.

BOLDUAN: She's got all of your top stories for you this morning.

PEREIRA: Good morning to all of you. And good morning to you at home.

We begin with breaking news out of Egypt. Egypt has a new interim president. The military named Adly Mansour, the country's new leader. He sworn in a couple years ago. Mansour was the head of Egypt's supreme constitutional court all of two days before assuming the presidency.

Military coup toppled Mohamed Morsi, the country's first democratically elected president and suspended the constitution. Muslim Brotherhood spokesman says Morsi is now under house arrest.

New this morning, Senator John McCain is in Afghanistan. The senator arriving overnight in Kabul for an unannounced Fourth of July visit. He's expected to meet with troops there while he's there. McCain's visit comes as the U.S. is preparing to drawdown forces in Afghanistan.

Colorado's Senator Mark Udall's brother who went missing during a hiking trip in the Rocky Mountains has been found dead. The helicopter search team discovered 61-year-old Randy Udall's body Wednesday.

In a statement, the senator expressed his gratitude to the search team and said his beloved Randy apparently died of natural causes doing what he loved, hiking his favorite mountain range.

The FBI looking into a bomb threat on board a U.S. Airways flight. Flight 114 met on tarmac by FBI agents and bomb squad when it landed Wednesday afternoon in Charlotte. FBI agents questioned the passenger. They say no charges will be filed against him. The flight originated to Boston, was headed to Chicago. Passengers were rescreened and then booked on to other flights.

Finally, cue the music, like a scene out of the movie, "Jaws". OK, not so much. A couple fishermen had quite the run-in with a Great White. It happened back in January off the coast of Australia.

For some reason, the guys thought it would be a good idea to pet the shark. Bad idea, guys. Apparently, he didn't like that since he decided to take a bite out of your boat. Gnawed on it.


BOLDUAN: You can't mean bite your boat.

CUOMO: Look at the scars on his face. Just amazing, right?

PEREIRA: They really are.



CUOMO: A little bit of sports news for you. The Boston Celtics search for a new coach, right? Not anymore. Nobody saw this coming.

BOLDUAN: This is crazy.

CUOMO: The team hired Butler's Brad Stevens.

BOLDUAN: Butler, Indiana.

CUOMO: Let's bring in Andy Scholes. He's got the Bleacher Report, a little bit insight.

Happy Fourth of July to you, Andy.

ANDY SCHOLES, BLEACHER REPORT: Happy Fourth of July to you, guys, as well.

You know, this Celtics search for a new head coach, it was a pretty quiet one. No one really knew who they were looking at until yesterday when they shocked everyone, announcing that they had hired Butler's Brad Stevens.

Now, Stevens has no NBA experience, but he was considered one of the game's brightest and upcoming coaches after leading Butler back to back national title appearances in 2010 and 2011. He was offered multiple coaching jobs at bigger programs, but he declined all of those offers choosing to remain with Butler.