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The Crash of Flight 214; Snowden Seeks Sanctuary; Egypt Braces for New Protests; Week Three of George Zimmerman Trial
Aired July 7, 2013 - 08:00 ET
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VICTOR BLACKWELL, CNN ANCHOR: Ten hours of calm end in a few minutes of horror. One person says they were seconds from being home. We're live from San Francisco on the crash of Flight 214.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Boom, the back end just hit and flies up in the air and everybody's head goes up to the ceiling.
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PAMELA BROWN, CNN ANCHOR: And while the crash was fatal, it seems a miracle that more didn't did. You'll hear one survivor's terrifying experience.
BLACKWELL: And more answers are emerging now, but there are still questions. Who is to blame? The transportation officials have now arrived on the scene and the investigation has begun.
BROWN: Good morning, everyone. So nice to have you along with us on this Sunday morning. I'm Pamela Brown.
BLACKWELL: I'm Victor Blackwell. Eight o'clock here on the East Coast. It's 5:00 out West. Thanks for starting your NEW DAY with us.
We have new information this morning about the investigation into that deadly crash in San Francisco. The flight and data recorder on Asiana Flight 214 have now been recovered and on their way back to Washington, D.C. at this moment.
BROWN: The NTSB's Go Team have been on site since very early this morning and we've been showing you images that thief sent out via Twitter from that seen right here.
Miguel Marquez is at CEO airport right now. He's been following the story.
Miguel, what do we know at this hour about the investigation?
MIGUEL MARQUEZ, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Yes, the CEO of Asiana Airline confirms that it was no emergency announcement to passenger before the plane hit the embankment. He also says that there was nothing wrong with the engines as far as he could tell raising the possibility that this is human error.
MARQUEZ (voiceover): Eleven-thirty-four a.m., Asiana Flight 214 had been in the air just over 10 hours. Passengers report the pilot increased engine power seconds before crashing.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It seemed like we were a little high and we could see the tarmac down below us. So, we were coming down kind of sharp. And right when it started to coast for the landing, all the sudden the engine was -- like he sped up like the pilot knew he was short.
MARQUEZ: The plane's tail struck the sea wall at very start of the runway, 28 left, the tail disintegrated, the engine on the left wing disappeared. The plane whipping sideways across the runway. Witnesses report hearing an explosion, then a large fire ball.
The plane's fuselage mostly intact finally came to a stop. The right engine next to the fuse large was smoking.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The back end flies up into the air and everybody's head goes up to the ceiling. And then it just kind of drifts a little bit for about 300 yards, tips over, fire starts, everybody is pushing the doors out.
MARQUEZ: From the violent landing, passengers started to emerge.
On this video shot by a witness in the terminal, you can see the plane's emergency chutes deployed and people using them to get off the plane. In this video from passenger David Eun, a Samsung executive, it shows people, some of them even holding onto their bags as they staggered from the plane.
His tweet is shocking as the incident itself. "I just crash landed at SFO. Tail Ripped off. Everyone seems fine. I'm OK. Surreal."
Witnesses shocked that anyone could survive.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: It just kept sliding and sliding and sliding. And it finally stopped. And you could see how the fuselage kept buckling and buckling many times. I'm surprised it didn't come part altogether. And it was unreal.
MARQUEZ: Helicopter pictures show the trail of destruction, the impact on the stone embankment at the runway's beginning. One set of landing gear, wheels, the plane stabilizer, the very tip of the tail, debris from the plane littering the runway.
Officials say there was no sign of trouble before the plane crashed. The weather -- ideal, a clear day. They were using visual flight rules to land.
Pilots say that landing at San Francisco International can be tricky. The Google Earth image shows the final approach. The runway 28 left and right, close to each other, the runway starting right at the water's edge.
(END VIDEOTAPE) MARQUEZ: Now, the two individuals who were killed were found on the runway, say officials. There were also survivors found in the water. And when emergency workers showed up to the plane, itself, the crew on board asked for knives so they could cut passengers free and get everybody off.
Amazing, amazing stories. Back to you guys.
BROWN: We've been hearing so many heroic stories throughout the morning.
Miguel Marquez, thank you so much.
BLACKWELL: The NTSB's Go Team has now been on the ground for about eight hours.
I want to show you this video before we talk about that. The video that Miguel just mentioned from David Eun, I think we have it. He shows people kind of walking away from the plane. And you can see them with bags, with the carry-ons. I want you to watch and listen to what David says.
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DAVID EUN, PASSENGER: We just crash landed on my flight from Seoul to SFO. The plane hit the runway really hard on the landing, and we skidded to the side. I thought we were going to flip over. Everyone seems to be OK, a little shaken up. I don't have shoes on, hit my head pretty hard, but I think I'm OK. As much as I fly, I don't think about this stuff happening. Anyway, everyone seems to be OK but shaken up. Wow.
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BROWN: We're going to be talking about the psychological impact for the passengers coming up in the show. You can imagine that a lot of them have emotional wounds for a long time after something like that.
BLACKWELL: And of the 307 passengers onboard this Asiana, 182 were taken to hospitals in the Bay Area. San Francisco General is the city's only level I trauma center.
BROWN: And right after the crash, the staff pitched tents right outside the ER to handle the rush the patients.
CNN's Sara Sidner joins us now from San Francisco General Hospital.
Sara, bring us up to date to the situation. How many patients are still there and what's their condition?
SARA SIDNER, CNN SENIOR INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: We can tell you just generalizations about conditions because they're being very strict with medical records but say they are six people who were critical, one includes a child.
We know that they had about 26 children, they treated 27 adults being treated at this hospital alone. The 192 patients were spread across 11 Bay Area hospitals.
I want to tell you the new information that we've gotten about the two people who were killed in this crash. Both were 16-year-old girls, one's name is Mengyuan Ye and other, Linjia Wang. One of them had just celebrated her 16th birthday because she was born in June 27th. Both are students and both are from China.
So, we are getting that information from the Chinese consulate. They did confirm that two of their nationals were killed in this crash. There was a group of students on the plane, several students that were from a summer camp in China. And so, that's the information we're getting from the consulate that yes, there were students also on that plane that did survive, that had been going to a summer camp and they were belonging to a school that is near Shanghai, a few hours outside of Shanghai.
So, that's the latest information on that two who have died.
What we know is that there are still people here in critical condition, still people at Stanford Hospital. They have about 45 patients that they have treated. They have some critically injured patients.
And so, doctors are trying to deal with the number of people who showed up. However, speaking to the spokesperson here, she said there was never a time that they were completely overwhelmed. They had enough staff, they had more staff coming in.
And as you mentioned, they had put up tents just in case the number of people they had to deal with, put into triage, that they were ready for that. They didn't really have to use it. They did deal with the patients that they needed to deal with inside the hospital -- Pamela.
BROWN: All right. Sara Sidner, good news. A lot of patients have been released this morning. All right. Thank you for that report. We appreciate.
BLACKWELL: As we told you the flight data recorders from Asiana Flight 214, they are on their way to Washington. Meantime, the NTSB's Go Team is in its eighth hour on the ground at the airport in San Francisco. They will soon be joined by South Korean investigators and officials from Asiana Airlines, and Boeing.
Terrorism does not appear to be the cause of yesterday's crash. But besides that, the NTSB chief says everything is on the table.
BROWN: CNN's Rene Marsh has been tracking the developments in this investigation.
So, Rene, tell us what the investigators focus on today.
RENE MARSH, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Well, Pamela and Victor, I just want to go back to the flight recorders that you spoke of. I do want to also add that we've confirmed that they are in good shape and that investigators, they expect that they could have a preliminary readout of the information recorded on these flight recorders later on this afternoon.
Now, lots of critical information on those recorders. The flight data recorder we can tell you, it has information like the altitude, engine thrust, the cockpit voice recorder, that would pick up things like voices, background noises, any warning signals that may have gone off.
Also, what's going to be critical is human performance, pilots, the possibility of fatigue, what they ate, drug and alcohol test for the flight crews, as well as the flight crews' training. What's also going important was mechanics, was everything working correctly, the landing gear, the engine, the pilots' instruments.
So, they'll be looking at all of this, as well as the equipment at the airport, and, of course, they'll annual the conversations between the pilot and air traffic control.
Here is a portion of the part of the conversation between the pilot and air traffic control once they made it in. Take a listen.
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TOWER: Asiana 214 heavy, emergency vehicles are responding. .
TOWER: Emergency vehicles are responding.
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MARSH: All right. Well, that's air traffic control essentially telling the pilot help is on the way.
I want to show you this map really quickly. Based on video and the pictures that we've seen so far, the debris field looks something like this, going from left to right. We have debris trail where the land meets the water and the pattern continues all the way to the far right of your screen where you see the fuselage, where that ended up as well as the passengers.
So, investigators are going to be documenting every piece of debris and the pattern of damage to get a full predict -- Pamela, Victor.
BLACKWELL: Renee, they're going to want to hear more from these four pilots than what is reported on these flight data recorders.
Let's talk about those conversations that they're likely going to have with the pilots.
MARSH: They're going to want to talk about the moments leading up to this, what was done, what maybe wasn't done. They just want to find out every little piece of information. I mean, when we talk about what they ate, I mean it's going to get that critical as far as every piece of information that they're going to need to collect.
They're also going to want to know about their training. What did they do? Did they follow the proper procedures? All questions that these pilots could be asked.
BROWN: We heard from the CEO of the airline, he said that one of the main pilots had a lot of experience, he had flown, eight, ten thousand miles over his career. So, a lot to find out.
Rene Marsh, thank you so much for bringing us up to date with the investigation.
And up next, aviation expert Jim Tilmon joins us.
BLACKWELL: Yes, he'll break down the crash and hunt for answers from a pilot's perspective.
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MIKE MURPHY, PLANE CRASH WITNESS: Coming in to land at the last minute, you could see the front end pop up and then slam down, and then it went from there and it eventually became the big explosion.
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BLACKWELL: That's Mike Murphy. We have many eyewitness accounts of this morning's tragedy at San Francisco International Airport.
BROWN: Retired commercial pilot Jim Tilmon joins us on the phone from Arizona for his expert opinion on this crash.
Jim, good morning to you.
You were on when the news of the story first broke. You were on CNN.
We have learned this morning that the flight data recorders are on their way to D.C. I can imagine that there are a treasure trove of information. What will investigators be listening for?
JIM TILMON, RETIRED COMMERCIAL PILOT (via telephone): Well, they'll be checking out the flight data recorder which will give them indications on a large number of items, a whole lot of list of (INAUDIBLE) data, what's happening with the engines, and it will be on a timeline of exactly what happened, when. It will have all kind of information about the attitude of the airplane, what the control inputs were like. They will literally be able to plug this into a computer and reenact everything that happened during the crash sequence.
The flight data or voice recorder will be a treasure trove of all kinds of information in terms of what was being heard in the cockpit, conversations that were taking place, the sounds of some of the warnings. And I would imagine there were all kinds of warnings going off and it was in its landing sequence, well below the glides slope. That's the ideal glide path for the aircraft when it touches down.
So, it's going to give them a very, very good and very, very accurate picture of what was happening just prior to and during the crash itself.
BROWN: And, Jim, of course, having heard from the pilots, as we talked about, the captain has been flying with Asiana since 1996 and we've learned from the CEO that he's flown 8,000 to 10,000 hours in his career, very experience.
Do we know how critical what they tell investigators are to the investigation?
TILMON: No, we don't. There are a lots of -- I'm sure you recognize -- there are far more questions than we have answers for this early in the investigation. I would suspect, however, going back to your flight recorders, that you're going to get a lot of information that will give us some concrete evidence as to exactly what was happening during the actual crash.
Now, the training that thief experienced will be brought out during the investigation and some of the interviews they're going to do with the airline and pilots and some of the regulatory people who administer all of this training analysis. So I'd say in the next 24 to 48 hours, we're going to be a lot smarter.
BLACKWELL: Our Rene Marsh is reporting that the severe weathers want to interview these pilots and want to ask about their sleep schedule and if they consumed any alcohol or anything like that, the obvious questions. But one about what they ate and other things that -- their personal routines I guess. What's the impact of those types of things from a pilot's perspective on a flight?
TILMON: Well, all of those things have a bearing on what they come up with as they're contributing factors to the accident. There are something called human factors as a whole segment of the investigation. But they concentrate their efforts on, yes, what we ate, when they ate it, how much rest they had. What their -- the best they can come up from an emotional state.
They will -- in listening to the cockpit voice recorder, they're going to get some feeling about the crew coordination between the pilots. There's going to be a lot of very detailed investigation that goes into this crash. It's just to be a very voluminous, very large investigation packet before they ever come up with, with what could be the contributing factors.
BROWN: We did learn from Rene that we could get a readout from those flight recorders later this afternoon. So, we'll find out more.
Aviation expert, Jim Tilmon, thank you for your perspective.
And just a quick note, that next hour on "STATE OF THE UNION," Candy Crowley will be interviewing an NTSB chairperson Deborah Hersman. Again, that is 9:00 Eastern Time. BLACKWELL: And we are covering several other big stories, including Edward Snowden, first Hong Kong, then Russia. Where will he go next? After weeks of limbo at Moscow's airport, the NSA leaker is receiving new offers of asylum. We'll tell you who wants to give him a safe haven now.
BLACKWELL: Twenty-four minutes after the hour. We'll have much more on the tragic plane crash in San Francisco. But there are other stories we're following this morning.
BROWN: Three countries are now indicating that they will welcome the man who has been a thorn in the side of the U.S. government, Edward Snowden, we're talking about, of course. The NSA leaker is now getting asylum offers from Nicaragua, Venezuela, and Bolivia.
BLACKWELL: Yes, but at least one of those countries, Venezuela, is still waiting to hear back from him.
CNN senior international correspondent Matthew Chance is live for us in Caracas for us this morning.
Matthew, I'm surprised that he's applied for asylum in more than 20 countries. And then one says, yes, we will take you, and he doesn't respond?
MATTHEW CHANCE, CNN SENIOR INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Yes, I don't think he's been given the opportunity to respond yet, in all fairness. The Venezuelan foreign minister said they haven't even actually made contact with Edward Snowden yet. Remember, he's believed to be holed up in the transit area of Moscow Sheremetyevo Airport.
And what Venezuelan officials say is that that they intend to speak to him on Monday. Until then, obviously, we're not going to hear whether or not he'll come. Having said that, you know, there was a plane that was leaving Moscow earlier today, Edward Snowden not to believed to have been on it.
But, of course, there are daily flights that would take Edward Snowden from Moscow to Cuba where can transit potentially, to Caracas, to Venezuelan capital, if he chooses to accept this offer of asylum.
BROWN: And if he does accept this offer, it can have serious economic repercussions for Venezuelan. In about light of that, do you think that some of this is just talk?
CHANCE: I think it could be, yes. I mean, you're right.
The economic consequences are potentially quite severe for a country like Venezuela. It's got dire economic problems. Inflation in this country runs at 35 percent. There's a huge shortage of basic products, from toilet paper to chicken.
And in recent weeks, in the past month, Venezuela has been reaching out to the United States to try and build relations, hoping to build a better trade relationship as well.
If Edward Snowden does come here as a political refugee, that could derail that process. And that's why many people in Venezuela feel that the president, Nicolas Maduro, is merely saying this. But he doesn't want Snowden to come here. He wants to talk the talk of fighting what he calls imperialism, but he's actually not want to do it.
BLACKWELL: We'll see what the next step is. Matthew Chance for us live in Caracas this morning, thanks.
BROWN: Tragedy on the runway and terror for families waiting to hear about their loved ones. One woman shares describes her father's story, describing the chaos and the courage.
BROWN: Welcome back, everyone. Bottom of the hour now. I'm Pamela Brown.
BLACKWELL: I'm Victor Blackwell.
Now to the five things you need to know this morning.
BROWN: Number one: that deadly plane crash in San Francisco. The NTSB has now recovered the flight and data recorders, and they're on their way back to Washington for investigation. Witnesses of the crash reported seeing the tail of the plane clipping the edge of the runway like this animation.
They've been spinning around with he plane's sliding along the tarmac before bursting into flames.
BLACKWELL: Story two. More countries are offering NSA leaker Edward Snowden asylum. First it was Venezuela, now Bolivia and Nicaragua are rolling out the welcome mat and so far though no sign of Snowden. He's presumably still somewhere at an airport in Moscow.
BROWN: And at number three more on that train crash Saturday in Quebec. One person is confirmed dead and dozens of others are reported missing. The train carrying 72 cars of crude oil rolled unattended for nearly seven miles before derailing and exploding into a spectacular inferno which continues to burn. Officials say the train came loose after it has been parked.
BLACKWELL: Number four. A very sober procession begins in Phoenix later this morning. 19 hearses will carry the bodies of the Granite Mountain Hotshots home to Prescott, Arizona. The firefighters died last Sunday battling a wildfire at Yarnell Hill near Prescott. Area fire departments will cross ladders over the procession to honor those fallen brothers.
BROWN: And at number five, it's Newtown day at Yankee Stadium. The team will host some 3,000 resident from Newtown Connecticut at today's game with the Baltimore Orioles. The names of the Sandy Hook School shooting victims will be displayed on the stadium's score board as part of a special pre-game ceremony.
BLACKWELL: We have more now on our top story this NEW DAY -- the crash landing of Asiana Flight 214 in San Francisco. We now know the names of the two girls killed in the crash. Mengyuan Ye and Linjia Wang, both girls were 16 years old.
BROWN: And amazingly out of the 307 passengers on that flight, those young women were the only fatalities. More than 180 people were treated at Bay Area hospitals following that crash and doctors say the survivors are suffering from spinal cord injuries, smoke inhalation and broken bones. Right now there are five people in critical condition; one of them is a child.
BLACKWELL: It was those survivors who saved so many of their fellow passengers after the crash acting as both victims and first responders.
BROWN: Yes earlier this morning we spoke with Bird Rah her father Anthony was on that plane. He's now safe at home with his family but listen to her describe the scene and some of the heroes who jumped into action.
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BIRD RAH, FATHER WAS ABOARD ASIANA FLIGHT 214 (via telephone): It was a flight attendant who was stuck, you know, the inflatable slide that comes out of the emergency doors, it had actually inflated inside the plane. And she was in her seat with the seat belt on and it blew up, I mean inflated right in front of her.
And once they crashed, he said that he saw her leg just kind of hanging in midair. And she was moving it. Trying to cry for help and she was trying to cry for help and obviously she couldn't breathe because it was just inflated in front of her.
And so my father, another gentleman and actually her husband was also on that flight, they tried to free her. And they couldn't deflate it, obviously, because there are no sharp objects allowed on the plane. But eventually a gentleman was able to move it and free her so she's at -- she's at a hospital right now. And he said it was just very surreal. Everyone was calm and that the flight attendants were very calm and very professional to escort everybody out.
BLACKWELL: Take us back to that moment when this plane is on the ground, it's burning and your father is telling you the story of what he's seeing and the people around. You mentioned one woman and her leg. What else did he see? These rescues, the people, the other injuries?
RAH: He did mention that there were some heroes that he definitely wanted to praise, including one flight attendant. She was a woman and she was very -- her build was very small. But he said that she was helping men twice her size get out of the plane and that she was very calm and very cooperative with all of the passengers on board.
And he really praised her for being so brave and so courageous and he's been trying to get in contact with her. You know and he -- and he also for the other passengers themselves were very cooperative; and when they were trying to assist the flight attendant who was trapped. So everybody was just kind of helping each other, which is a relief in a situation like that.
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BLACKWELL: Pamela, I just cannot imagine being Bird Rah and you hear that a plane from Seoul to San Francisco has crash landed. And then you hope -- I hope it's not my father's plane and then you realize it is.
BROWN: It is and we can all relate to that feeling I think of having a loved one you know board a flight whatever my love ones do, I say ok have a safe flight, I'm praying for you and to actually find out that your father, your sister, your brother, your mother or friend was on that flight, it must have been terrifying.
But we've been talking about all morning how it's unbelievable more people weren't killed when you look at that devastation there.
BLACKWELL: Yes let's talk about the crash survivors' injuries now.
BROWN: Yes CNN's senior medical correspondent Elizabeth Cohen joins us now with licensed psychologist and PTSD expert Erik Fisher. Thank you both for being here with us.
Elizabeth I want to start with you. Just tell us what the situation is right now, what can you tell us about the injuries?
ELIZABETH COHEN, CNN SENIOR MEDICAL CORRESPONDENT: Well as there were, you know, it's amazing there weren't more deaths. And we thank God there weren't but there are quite a few injured people. So its 182 injured people are at 11 area hospitals. And the injuries really run the gamut. I mean everything from cuts and bruises, to broken bones, spinal fractures, burns and internal bleeding. So they are dealing with a whole array of injuries in the situation.
BLACKWELL: And some of the injuries we can't see. I mean -- the cuts and bruises, those are easy to identify. But Dr. Fisher, tell us about some of the psychological issues, PTSD.
ERIK FISHER, LICENSED PSYCHOLOGIST: Well in any situation we have something that's beyond the scope of what we experience. We have the ability to experience posttraumatic stress disorder. That can be what we say immediate onset or delayed onset. You could have symptoms from six months to years later.
And what often set those off are triggers. And triggers might be for people who've been, who've experienced plane crash or other traumatic experiences and they see these events on the news it could be difficult. One thing that's coming to mind for me is the core correspondents between Sandy Hook day at the Yankee Stadium and this tragedy. Because it's a tragedy that reaches the news, it's a tragedy that people are impacted even some parents could be reminded of their tragedy going back to major news events. BLACKWELL: So the Newtown victims in some way could be re-traumatized by this?
FISHER: Well the fact that there an event that went on. That again people are impacted and many people are impacted and all it takes is a trigger to prompt somebody who might have signs of posttraumatic stress. They might be having sleep problems. They might be having disturbing emotions or feelings recurrent thoughts. They might be losing an interest of life that this kind of says, why bother, there's always going to be a tragedy and there's always going to be something especially when you have something bad happening and corresponds with something good.
People with posttraumatic stress are often waiting for the next shoe to drop. They're waiting for something bad to happen in their life and it reinforces that belief that I have to be prepared. I have to be hyper vigilant. I have to be ready for trauma.
COHEN: I think the randomness of it, that that's part of impact.
COHEN: I mean no one thinks this is going to happen to them when they get on a plane.
BROWN: We've been hearing from the passenger David Eun who has been showing his pictures this morning and that's what he said exactly all the time. You never think this is going to happen. But what's incredible, you know what we see in these images the passengers walking off the plane with their luggage in hand looking calm. But we're wondering are they just in shock or are they actually calm? Has it sunk in for them yet? What do you think?
FISHER: Yes there's a shock to it. There's a surreal sense of you know our body, our mind has the ability to move into this ability to handle these traumatic situations in the moment. It's afterward that we have to be concerned about. And even people moving from you know like Victor said from victim to rescuer, it's a very empowering ability to have. When you're coping with the posttraumatic -- potential posttraumatic distress, when you have a moderating factor to help you increase your sense of power over the event that's very positive; and that's -- that's a very good thing as they're working through healing.
You know, sometimes have first responders who have posttraumatic stress from ER, people, doctors, to military physicians, to nurses and things like that, they often are talking things through. So even your questions you were asking her about what she had experienced in one of the people before was a great question.
The woman you had on in the last hour who had been through a crash and who had said it took me three times to get on the plane, so don't let me off this plane. That was a great therapy of in vivo desensitization and successive approximations as we call. So she did a great job working through her therapy.
BROWN: Yes, confronting her fear head on.
COHEN: And I think it speaks to the strength of the human spirit and the human mind that in this situation, I mean you're just landing in a plane like every time you've landed and something bad happens. People really do snap to it. They know what to do. They know how to help others. They know to keep calm. And yes, of course, they're feeling shock and trauma, but they also know how to handle it. I think we're stronger than we think we are sometimes.
BROWN: And we've seen some of them actually, we heard from the fire chief that some actually went into water -- jumped into the water right after the crash. Do we think there could have been chemical exposure or burns they were dealing with?
COHEN: You know, it's interesting, the fire chief was saying that you can sort of make assumptions that they must have felt something that made them go to the water. We don't know what it is. Maybe they just felt the heat and it's sort of a natural human reaction to want to go to water when you feel that kind of heat. Maybe they did smell something. It's unclear how much it was just sort of an automatic reaction versus something they thought through, we don't know. But you know, I'm sure we'll be talking to those people who went to the water and we can ask them. You know, why did you do it?
BLACKWELL: Elizabeth Cohen, Erik Fisher, thank you so much.
BROWN: Thank you.
FISHER: Thank you.
BROWN: And in other news this morning, Egypt on edge. The country's first democratically-elected president has been tossed out of power. Now his supporters and opponents plan to return to the streets. We're watching the volatile situation up next.
BLACKWELL: Well, much more on that investigation into the deadly plane crash in San Francisco in a moment. We're also following some other big stories today. Egypt is gearing up for new demonstrations.
BROWN: Supporters and opponents of Egypt's president are taking to the streets. In the past few days that has happened and when that has happened we've seen the situation turn violent.
We want to now bring in CNN's Reza Sayah in Cairo. And Reza, it's been calm so far today, how long do we think that's going to last?
REZA SAYAH, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: It may not last much longer because this country is bracing itself for another settle of rival demonstrations in this conflict where on one side you have Egyptians who are happy. These are opponents of the ousted president, Mohammed Morsy. They're thrilled that he's gone and Egypt seems to be on its way to establishing a transitional government that will lead to a new government.
Then you have the Egyptians who are not happy. These are supporters of the ousted president, supporters of the Muslim Brotherhood and other Egyptians who say they simply support the Democratic process that they say has been violated. They're frankly angry and shocked that a week ago they were marking Mr. Morsy's one-year anniversary as president and now he's in ousted from power, in custody fighting for his freedom.
They're going to be holding demonstrations; they're demanding him to be reinstated. One of those demonstrations in front of the presidential guard headquarters where they believe Mr. Morsy is being held in custody.
Not to be outdone, his opponents, Mr. Morsy's opponents. They'll be holding a celebration behind this in Tahrir and elsewhere saying legitimacy is with the people. That's what they're calling the demonstrations. And whenever you have these rival demonstrations there's always a concern that some elements are going to cross paths and there's going to be violence that we saw over the past few days.
So much of this country bracing itself for what could be another dramatic day.
BLACKWELL: Well, peaking of opponents, there were a lot of people who thought that a prominent opposition leader Elbaradei would be named the interim prime minister this weekend. What happened with that?
SAYAH: It's hard to say what happened last night. But there were all sorts of reports that Mohamed Elbaradei was appointed as interim prime minister. This is the Nobel Laureate, the Egyptian diplomat. Many among the liberals and the moderates like him as an interim prime minister.
However, when he talked to the Islamists, when he talked to the supporters of the Muslim Brotherhood and the supporters of the ousted president, they do not like him. They don't believe that this is a man who represents their views. So when word came out that he had been pointed interim prime minister, they were outraged.
However, hours later, we learned that the reports were false. These could be indications that establishing an interim government appointing uncontroversial figures anyone likes is going to be challenging -- guys.
BLACKWELL: All right. Reza Sayah in Cairo for us. Thank you.
BROWN: And the defense has the floor tomorrow morning in the George Zimmerman trial -- Picking up after a week of dramatic testimony from the mother of slain teen, Trayvon Martin. We'll tell you what to expect, up next.
(COMMERCIAL BREAK) BROWN: To Florida now where the trial of George Zimmerman is set to resume tomorrow morning at 9:00 Eastern time. Before the weekend recess, the prosecution rested Friday and the defense called its first witness.
BLACKWELL: George Zimmerman's mother, Gladys, testified that it was her son screaming on the 911 recording the night that Zimmerman shot and killed Martin.
Our Martin Savidge is in Sanford, Florida reporting. Martin at a news conference on Friday, Mark O'Mara said he was enjoying himself so the case will go as long as it takes. How long do we expect that to be?
MARTIN SAVIDGE, CNN CORRESPONDENT: You know, that's a very good question. I would think Victor -- by the way, good morning to you, good morning Pamela -- that it's probably not going to take as long as the prosecution has taken for a number of reasons. Primarily some would say, well, because it looked like prosecution was almost putting out the defense's case -- so many of those witness seemed to actually say things that benefited George Zimmerman.
But on top of that, you know, the initial premises have already been brought up by both sides in their opening statements and in their cross-examination. So I would think that the defense won't take as long. We've been told expect three, four days. Of course that means Wednesday, Thursday.
There's some other issues that would have to be dealt with right at the very end and then it goes to the jury deliberation.
But, you know, what a remarkable day. You mentioned Friday. It was breathtaking. And I don't mean to make it sound like a spectator sport because this is clearly far more serious than that. But nobody I believe anticipated that you would see both Trayvon Martin's mother and George Zimmerman's mother take the stand on the very same day. Talk about dramatic.
BROWN: The defense brought George Zimmerman's mother. Who else can we expect to go up for the defense to bring up when the trial resumes?
SAVIDGE: Well, they don't officially give us any kind of list. But we can assume from talking to both the defense and the prosecution, a number of things. You would expect that you're going to see a series of witnesses that will come on and reinforce the injuries that occurred to George Zimmerman he says as a result of the altercation that he had with 17-year-old Trayvon Martin.
So, you know, think of the paramedics, think of the doctors who have treated him. Think of people who can analyze both the medical records, the photographs and try to reinforce to that jury that these were serious injuries. Because, of course, there had people that had been put on by the prosecution who sort of said that the injuries George suffered were rather insignificant.
And if George Zimmerman is maintaining that "Look, my life was literally flashing before my eyes here, I had to shoot Trayvon Martin, then they have to reinforce that the injuries were serious. So that's just a number of people you're going to see from.
BROWN: All right. Martin Savidge, thank you so much for your insight and perspective. We appreciate it.
BLACKWELL: The data recorders from Asiana Flight 214 -- they're headed to Washington. And the chief of the NTSB promises a thorough investigation of the crash landing of the Boeing 777 that killed two people.
BROWN: Meantime, over in Egypt, 30 people have died in demonstrations over deposed president, Mohammed Morsy. Protesters plan to take the streets again today.
We want to bring in Candy Crowley, host of CNN's "STATE OF THE UNION". Candy, good morning to you.
CANDY CROWLEY, CNN HOST: Good morning.
BROWN: You were speaking with NTSB chair woman Deborah Hersman this morning. Tell us what the latest in the investigation is.
CROWLEY: Well, a couple of things I know from covering a lot of plane crashes. The first is when the NTSB promises a thorough investigation, which they always do, it is always preceded by a lot of non-information. They don't like to talk until they have it all.
The other thing I know is that most crashes are multi determined. They tend to be kind of this happened and then this happened, and then together here's how it all came out. So we know something from the passengers who have said there wasn't any announcement overhead. They think they were flying too low. But as we all know eyewitnesses, particularly the non-expert eyewitnesses, sometimes experience things differently than the reality of it. And that's where the NTSB comes in.
BLACKWELL: Candy, let's shift to Egypt. Mohammed Morsy is out as president. There's day after day, this dueling pro-Morsy, anti-Morsy protests. What's at stake for the U.S. here?
CROWLEY: Well, in the -- in the broad term, it really is stability in the Middle East. Egypt has always been seen as a key to that stability. Obviously with democracy coming in a year ago with the election of Morsy, the U.S. was hoping it was on a path. Now we see that once again Egypt is not in chaos, but certainly it's future is undetermined at this point.
So the larger issue is Middle East peace. But we're already seeing that what happens in Egypt can spill over into neighboring countries and that's how, you know, sparks get ignited. So the U.S. is very interested in seeing that whatever goes on in Egypt from this day forth, it is not about violence but about a process that the U.S. hopes will get Egypt back to a democratic process.
BLACKWELL: All right. And of course we're watching that. Our Reza Sayah there live in Cairo. Thank you, Candy.
CROWLEY: Sure, thanks.
BLACKWELL: And be sure everyone to keep it here for "STATE OF THE UNION" with Candy Crowley. It starts at the top of the hour, 9:00 a.m. Eastern right here on CNN.
BROWN: If you live in the Ohio, Tennessee Valleys or in the southeast, we can attest to those Victor. We don't have to tell you the holiday weekend was a washout in much of those regions. Karen Maginnis will be back to look at the forecast right after this break.
BLACKWELL: Live pictures this morning from San Francisco of the wreckage of Flight 214.
BROWN: You know, you look at that video right there, but we're hearing from flight experts this morning, it could have been much worse. We spoke to someone earlier saying there have been upgrades to these planes recently, more secure seats, flame resistant material in the cabin and perhaps that could have prevented more deaths.
We know that two people were killed, two 16-year-old girls from China.
BLACKWELL: And we'll continue follow this story throughout the day.
Now, the weather as we can confirm here in Atlanta. It is a sloppy wet mess and it has been for days.
BROWN: And it's not just here in Atlanta. Karen Maginnis is in the weather center with more. So what else is going on across the country -- Karen?
KAREN MAGINNIS, AMS METEOROLOGIST: Yes, we've got the heat that's cranked up into the northeast. And by the way, my husband is a 777 air line pilot and we were riveted to the coverage yesterday afternoon watching everything that was going on there.
Across the southeast, we've got lots of moisture and it looks like some of the flooding rainfall is expected to continue across this region. Even in some areas we might expect as much as 2 to 4 inches possible in some of these regions -- so still quite stormy for the afternoon. But if you're traveling up towards the northeast, those temperatures are expected to be into the 90s. So another hot day expected there.
But we'll also see some cooling off as we head towards Monday. But watch out because it is going to be very oppressive. Back to you -- Pamela, Victor.
BLACKWELL: All right. That will do it for us. Thank you -- Karen.
BROWN: Thank you so much for watching everyone. "STATE OF THE UNION" with Candy Crowley starts now. Have a great day.