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Flight 214 Pilot in the Spotlight; What Went Wrong in Plane Crash?; Chaos and Confusion; Alaska Plane Crash Kills 10; Violent Clashes in Egypt; Canada Train Disaster; George Zimmerman on Trial; Tropical Storm Chantal Forming
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UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: They're going to be looking very closely at flight training, at the crew's experience.
CHRIS CUOMO, CNN ANCHOR: Breaking new details. The pilot at the controls of Asiana 214 only had 43 hours of experience flying that kind of plane. We have the exclusive video showing exactly what went wrong.
KATE BOLDUAN, CNN ANCHOR: The survivors. We're hearing the harrowing stories from those who made it out alive, but also, did one of the two girls killed survive the crash only to be hit by an emergency vehicle?
MICHAELA PEREIRA, CNN ANCHOR: Found on fire. An entire Canadian town goes up in flames after a train derails. Forty people now missing. What went wrong?
CUOMO: Your NEW DAY starts right now.
ANNOUNCER: This is NEW DAY with Chris Cuomo, Kate Bolduan, and Michaela Pereira.
CUOMO: Good morning, everyone. And welcome to NEW DAY. It's Monday, July 8th, 6:00 in the East. I'm Chris Cuomo.
BOLDUAN: Hey, everybody. I'm Kate Bolduan. We're joined by news anchor, Michaela Pereira. There is a lot going on this morning. Breaking news across the world. Violence erupting overnight in Egypt, that massive fire that we've been talking about in Quebec, and also, in the Atlantic, a tropical storm possibly brewing, heading and possibly heading for the U.S. We are covering it all.
CUOMO: And we're going to begin with the crash of flight 214. CNN has learned this was the first time the pilot had ever attempted a landing at San Francisco International Airport in a Boeing 777. We're also learning more about the two teen-aged girls from China who died in Saturday's fiery crash.
For the first time, we're seeing their photos. They were on their way to a summer church camp in Los Angeles, we know that, but now a shocking question. Could one of them have been killed after the plane had already come down?
BOLDUAN: Yes. More details coming out really. It seems like every minute we're learning something more about this. We also want you to look at this, CNN exclusive video of the moment the plane crashed, the only known video of this at this time. This is the moment the plane hit that sea wall, and you see what happens right after. In the moment the plane then spun out of control, rising almost vertically at one point.
All of this, and there is yet another plane crash overnight to tell you about. This one in Alaska, 10 people are dead. We have these stories covered like no one else with a team of correspondents and analysts standing by.
First let's get to Miguel Marquez live from San Francisco International Airport on that Asiana flight. More on this. Miguel, so what is the latest? What are you hearing this morning about the investigation?
MIGUEL MARQUEZ, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Kate, in addition to that video, that exclusive video that CNN has showing the way this plane came in so low and crashing, we do know that this pilot had only piloted a 777 nine times in total. Investigators are now trying to figure out why that plane came in so steep and so slow.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Oh my god.
MARQUEZ (voice-over): This morning, a stunning revelation, Asiana Airlines saying at the controls of the doomed flight was the co-pilot with 43 hours of experience in the 777. And he never landed a 777 at San Francisco before. Though he was a veteran pilot with 10,000 hours of flying time --
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Oh, Lord have mercy.
MARQUEZ: This was considered a training flight.
Flight 214 clipping the seawall, sliding down the runway, and pinwheeling at one point almost fully vertical, then erupting into a cloud of dust and smoke.
JOHN HAYES, PLANE SPOTTER: I was watching it come in and my initial reaction was that it was trying to abort the landing.
MARQUEZ: Officials say the pilot tried to increase speed seven seconds before impact. At four seconds, the 350-ton plane shake stick jolted violently, a warning the massive jet was going too slowly, stalling.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I looked out through the window and I knew we were too low.
MARQUEZ: Just 1.5 seconds before slamming into the seawall, the pilot called to abort the landing. DEBORAH HERSMAN, NTSB CHAIRWOMAN: There is no discussion of aircraft anomalies or concerns.
MARQUEZ: These new NTSB photos show seats crushed and jumbled together. Amazing so many survived.
WEN ZHANG, CRASH SURVIVOR: Everybody screamed. (Inaudible) most of ash -- everywhere was ash.
MARQUEZ: Some passengers thrown from the plane, suffering road rash from skidding along the runway.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: We got there within three minutes. There were flames were coming off the planes.
MARQUEZ: The parents of two teenage girls killed in a crash grief stricken, their daughters headed for summer camp here in California. More than a dozen are still hospitalized, two of them paralyzed. Still, such a violent crash and so few injuries and deaths?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: It is nothing short of a miracle that we had literally 123 people walk away from this.
MARQUEZ: A miracle prompting many questions.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Oh my god. Oh my god.
MARQUEZ: And adding to the tragedy of all of this, the San Mateo County coroner here saying that one of those young women who died may have been hit by an emergency vehicle as it was rushing to the plane. It's not clear whether that person was already dead when the vehicle may have hit it. The mayor here responding to it all saying that he knows emergency responders were trying as hard as possible to get to that plane, and it was a very, very chaotic scene -- Chris.
CUOMO: A lot to be learned here, Miguel. Thank you for the reporting this morning. Let's bring in Mary Schiavo. She is the former inspector general of the Department of Transportation, and is an aviation attorney for the law firm, Matley Rice. Mary, thanks for being with us. Appreciate it.
A lot of unanswered questions, it will take a while, but let just start generally here first, this was a training flight. Not really, right? The pilot had thousands of hours. He was just relatively new to this type of aircraft, yes?
MARY SCHIAVO, FORMER INSPECTOR GENERAL, DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION: That's correct. He had to be checked out. He had to have the appropriate number of hours to actually be allowed to participate in this flight in the cockpit of the aircraft. But what they say when they mean training flight is he was building additional hours on the aircraft. Yes, he was qualified, or it wouldn't have been legal to take off.
CUOMO: Important distinction though, right?
SCHIAVO: Important distinction, but the number of hours is important. As you build hours and get familiarity with your aircraft, you do get more expertise, get more comfort at the controls, and you really do feel better, and the plane is responding to certain environments. It was highly significant this was the first landing at SFO, particularly coming across water and over the sea wall.
CUOMO: When you look at those combination of factors in this particular airport, what strikes you as you see the video?
SCHIAVO: What strikes me when I see the video is that 7 seconds before impact, they did know that they were low and slow. They were going too slow, under the recommended guidelines for the speed of the plane, and they were way too low below what's called the glide path. At that moment, had they done something, they would have had a chance. When they finally did do the evasive maneuvers or tried to give themselves more power at 1.5 seconds, it was too late. There was simply no time.
CUOMO: Now do we know if they had been on autopilot, it would have been easier?
SCHIAVO: It would have because autopilot corrects many of those factors. Autopilot keeps track of things or putting in, in layman's terms, your altitude, your air speed, throttle positioning, and had they needed additional altitude or air speed if they were on autopilot, it would have corrected it and would have kicked in the power that they needed, it would have helped.
CUOMO: What they called for in the last second a fly around, would that have been possible at that point?
SCHIAVO: At that point, it would not have been possible. They were too low and they probably had already about to strike or had already struck the sea wall. At that point, the air speed was dissipated so much. They wouldn't have gotten back up again anyway. Literally about 4 seconds out, just before they hit the sea wall, at that point, the best they could do is try to avert a complete disaster and great loss of life. If they were going to avert it, it had to be well before they got to that sea wall.
CUOMO: And at that point, once they hit that ground, they just got lucky that so many people walked away.
SCHIAVO: They got lucky, and many things in the plane help people to survive. The survivability factors have increased dramatically in the last 15 years.
CUOMO: There's a lot to be seen in this video. We're going to break it down in the 7:00 hour with Mary, piece by piece, as we go through. But thank you very much for giving us the top line on it right now.
SCHIAVO: Thank you.
BOLDUAN: A lot of the focus is how this happened, but also we want to talk this morning about who this happened to. We're hearing from survivors of the crash from the moment of impact to the terrifying moments of chaos and confusion in the aftermath. CNN's Kyung Lah has some of those stories.
KYUNG LAH, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): The crash stunned people watching in horror. Aboard the plane, passenger Eugene Rah had only one thought.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I thought that was it. I thought I'm dying.
LAH: Rah had landed in San Francisco hundreds of times. This was his 173rd flight on Asiana Air.
EUGENE RAH, SURVIVOR: The entire aircraft was so quiet just for a few seconds. I smell something burning and see the smoke and dust.
LAH: His daughter Eunice was waiting to pick up her father, frantically texting him. He didn't reply.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I could see the smoke. I could see the plane.
LAH (on camera): And you knew your dad was on that plane?
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Yes.
LAH (voice-over): Then relief. Her father texted these pictures, his plane burning. Fellow passengers terrified and running, then lying injured on the tarmac. And this 100-pound flight attendant, Rah says carried the injured to safety on her back. This woman was seated in row 40. She dragged her 4-year-old with a broken leg out of the side plane.
ZHANG: To the right of the plane chair, it's a bathroom. Yes, most of the bathroom is gone.
LAH: Ben Levy was also near the back of the plane.
BEN LEVY, SURVIVOR (via telephone): Somebody helped me to open the door. There was no slide. At that point, I'm ushering people out. I'm screaming to everybody, we're OK. We're fine. Help each other out. Get out.
LAH: These survivors largely have superficial wounds. Eugene Rah has cuts to his chin and pain in his jaw, but as we talk at his home near San Francisco's airport, Rah has a more serious injury you can't see.
(on camera): What is it like to hear the plane fly overhead now?
RAH: I feel like puke, honestly. I feel like throw-up when I hear that.
LAH (voice-over): A wound that may never heal. Kyung Lah, CNN, San Francisco.
CUOMO: So we have the NTSB looking into this flight in San Francisco, and they're also investigating another devastating plane crash at the same time. This one you're looking at happened Sunday at a small airport in Alaska. The plane involved much smaller than the jumbo jet in the San Francisco accident, but the results even deadlier, all 10 on board killed.
Rene Marsh is live in the Washington bureau with details. Rene, what do we know about this crash?
RENE MARSH, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Well, Chris, first of all, I should tell you the NTSB go team is expected to be headed there in really just a matter of minutes. The scheduled takeoff time for the go team is 6:15, and they're en route to that crash site that you see there on the screen.
It's too early to know officially what caused the plane's crash here, and also the plane went up in flames. So we don't know exactly what caused all of this, but what we do know is this was an air taxi. When it comes to FAA regulations, it comes just under commercial planes. Commercial airliners, they're heavily regulated. This would be considered a middle tear. Again, we're expecting a briefing from NTSB when they get on the ground -- Chris.
CUOMO: All right, thank you very much, Rene. All these crashes happening right now makes it seem so scary. Remember, you have a one in 45 million chance, 1 out of 45 million of being in a plane crash, being struck by lightning, 1 in 750,000. It's still a very safe way to fly. We'll take you through what happened in that crash in San Francisco even more in the coming hours of the show.
BOLDUAN: Shocking, so much happening really in one weekend, and a lot happening around the world.
We want to take you to another big story, violent clashes in Egypt this morning. Overnight, witnesses say the Egyptian military fired on supporters of ousted President Mohamed Morsy, killing more than 40 people and injuring more than 300. Tens of thousands have taken to the streets since Morsy was removed from power last week in support and opposition.
CNN's Reza Sayah is live in Cairo and has been all throughout this very tumultuous time. Reza, what is it like this morning because it sure sounds like its threatening to just go into chaos.
REZA SAYAH, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Yes, I mean, things are calm right now, Kate, but chaotic overnight hours. At this point, I don't think anyone knows how this conflict is going to end. We do know things got a whole lot uglier overnight. At least 42 killed, more than 300 injured in clashes between supporters of the ousted president, Mohamed Morsy, and security forces.
The clashes taking place before dawn in front of the Presidential Guard Headquarters. This is where Mr. Morsy is reportedly being held in custody. All sorts of conflicting reports, who started this, who fired first, the military saying it was protesters who fired first. Protesters saying, no, we're not armed. It was the security forces who fired on us.
They're also saying they fired during morning prayers. The aftermath was ugly, many of the victims rushed to a nearby hospital, the fatalities placed on the ground covered with blankets. This is the deadliest incident since Mr. Morsy was ousted. We're already seeing the fallout.
The ultra-conservative Islamist group, the Nur Party, it was part of this very important coalition to establish this transitional government. They've already said, we're out in protest of what happened today. Uncertain times, guys, in the days to come -- Chris, Kate.
BOLDUAN: Uncertain times, we'll be watching it. Reza, thank you so much, a lot going on today.
CUOMO: Absolutely. Now we want to take you up to Quebec where an engine shutdown may be the cause of a freight train derailment and massive explosion, at least five people were killed, about 40 people remain unaccounted for this morning. CNN's Paula Newton is live in Lac-Megantic, Canada with more. Paula, what do we know?
PAULA NEWTON, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Chris, the big thing now is that those tankers full of crude oil had finally being extinguished. That means investigators can move in and unfortunately start the grim work of looking for the missing.
NEWTON (voice-over): For too many, there was simply no escape. An inferno so intense it incinerated everything in the path.
Minutes before the unmanned runaway train pulling 72 tankers filled with crude oil went careening into the town of Lac-Megantic, derailed with unimaginable consequences. Earth-shaking explosions followed, a fire burning for a full 36 hours.
The devastation was apocalyptic; the silence ominous. There was no word of sons and daughters who never made it home. Friends and family that, yes, vanished. Town officials say some were likely vaporized by the sheer intensity of the blaze.
BENOIT RICHARD, QUEBEC FORCE POLICE SPOKESMAN: Of course, we are working hand in hand with the coroner's office and with the victim unit from (inaudible) Quebec to talk with the families. All of the bodies were transported to the Montreal forensics to be expertised.
NEWTON: The fire utterly consumed the very heart of this town in every way. Waiting for word of the missing has been excruciating.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We are numb. We are just numb.
NEWTON: Canada's prime minister, Steven Harper, toured the devastation and foreshadowed the grim new that is sure to come. STEVEN J. HARPER, CANADIAN PRIME MINISTER: But I know there is going to be waves of emotion over the next few weeks as the extent of this -- and this is a very big disaster in human terms -- as the extent of this becomes increasingly obvious.
NEWTON (on camera): What's not obvious is the Montreal, Maine, and Atlantic Railway Company based in the United States, they're saying, look, we don't know what happened here. But most likely, there was some kind of brake failure. Obviously, you have this train careening into a small town.
You know, Kate and Chris, these small towns, these junctions all the way in North America, U.S., Canada -- this train was headed into the United States -- a lot of questions about rail safety and the safety of those tankers, how quickly they can leak or explode, a lot more crude and petroleum products moving around our two countries.
BOLDUAN: All right. Paula Newton following it all. Paula, thank you so much.
That video, there's a lot of amazing video that we're seeing today, but that video with the plumes of dark, thick smoke, absolutely terrifying that we're watching.
A lot of news, seeing some of it right there, a lot of other stories developing at this hour. So, let's get straight to Michaela for some of the headlines.
PEREIRA: All right. Making news -- thanks so much, and good morning to you.
A major health scare for Teresa Heinz Kerry, the wife of Secretary of State John Kerry. She is in critical but stable condition at a Boston hospital this morning. She became ill at the family's vacation home in Nantucket on Sunday. The family isn't saying what the illness is, but they're asking for privacy. The 74-year-old was treated for breast cancer in 2009.
People who left their home since the Yarnell Hill Fire raged in Arizona, they are being allowed home. The evacuation order will lift at 9:00 a.m. local time. And an emotional homecoming for the 19 fallen Granite Mountain Hotshots, 19 hearses making the 125-mile procession from the medical examiner's office in Phoenix, passed firefighters at the state through Yarnell where they died, and finally home to Prescott.
Cuban President Raul Castro now backing asylum offers for NSA leaker Edward Snowden from his Latin American allies, but he didn't say if Cuba would make its own offer. Now that Venezuela, Bolivia, and Nicaragua have indicated they'd be willing to grant Snowden asylum, Cuba could play a key role. There are no direct commercial flights between Moscow and some Latin American cities like Caracas. The usual route involves changing planes in Havana. A man will be arraigned this morning in Massachusetts as an accessory to murder in the case involving former New England Patriot Aaron Hernandez. Prosecutors say Ernest Wallace was there the night Odin Lloyd was killed. Meanwhile, the ACLU is concerned that Hernandez is in solitary confinement. They say it's like torture because he's alone in a cell 20 for hours a day.
And, finally, the running of the bulls is underway in Pamplona, Spain. Thousands of people filled the streets Sunday to run along six bulls on the first day of San Fermin Festival. Forty-four people were injured. This is the news, though, nothing serious, according to local officials.
As these things go, a relatively safe day in Pamplona, nobody was gored. That is the headline because some of these bulls, my friends, weigh 1,400 pounds and they're not very happy and they're chasing you, and you don't have horns.
BOLDUAN: They are trying to make it to the streets with people running right in front of him.
CUOMO: You know what the worst part is you've got people smacking them with newspapers, the cobblestones are really slick. When I was there in that, the only reason I didn't get hit --
BOLDUAN: You didn't run?
CUOMO: Oh, I ran. I ran faster than any time I've ever run in my life. My screams were so high, they distracted the bulls.
PEREIRA: You know, Berman and I had this conversation about the types of people who would do that, and we didn't even think of you.
BOLDUAN: I would absolutely do that.
CUOMO: -- plenty of opportunities.
BOLDUAN: That is a bucket list item.
PEREIRA: Oh, no.
CUOMO: Like moving on. It's 6:18 right now.
Coming up on NEW DAY after the break, a big week in the George Zimmerman trial. The defense resumes its case. Remember they have to prove this was self-defense. It's unusual, but the big moment, you're looking right there, that was Trayvon Martin's mother. When the defense started, they put on George Zimmerman's mother.
At issue, whose voice on the 911 tape? Who connected better with the jurors? We'll tell you. BOLDUAN: Plus, we're learning more about the South Korean pilot who was at the controls at the moment the plane crashed. Here's some of that CNN exclusive video. We're going to break down this stunning video of the crash and what it could tell investigators, coming up.
CUOMO: Welcome back to NEW DAY, everybody. The critical week three of the George Zimmerman trial begins this morning.
The prosecution rested its case Friday after heartbreaking testimony from Trayvon Martin's mother, tearfully identifying those 911 screams as the voice of her son.
But the defense began with Zimmerman's mother who identified the same screams as coming from her son.
Let's bring in George Howell. He's down in Sanford, Florida, live. He has the very latest. Good morning, George.
GEORGE HOWELL, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Chris, good morning. So, for this jury of six women, five of them mothers, it comes down to this question, who do they believe the most? And there's the issue of the medical examiner, who we heard from Friday, who told the court he doesn't remember anything.
HOWELL (voice-over): A rare moment of emotion from George Zimmerman in the courtroom as this week of testimony could see more family on the stand to testify on his behalf.
Friday, Zimmerman was visibly affected, listening to his uncle explain when he heard those highly scrutinized screams for help on a 911 audiotape.
JORGE MESA, ZIMMERMAN'S UNCLE: I said, that is George, and I stood up and looked at the TV.
HOWELL: Also, Zimmerman's mother.
MARK O'MARA, ZIMMERMAN DEFENSE ATTORNEY: Do you know whose voice that was screaming in the background?
GLADYS ZIMMERMAN, GEORGE ZIMMERMAN'S MOTHER: Yes, sir.
O'MARA: And whose voice was that?
ZIMMERMAN: My son George.
O'MARA: And are you certain of that?
ZIMMERMAN: Because he's my son.
HOWELL: It was a day of dueling testimonies between mothers. Gladys Zimmerman testified after Sybrina Fulton told the court what she heard before the fatal shot that killed her son.
BERNIE DE LA RIONDA, ASSISTANT STATE ATTORNEY: Ma'am, that screaming or yelling, do you recognize that?
SYBRINA FULTON, MOTHER OF TRAYVON MARTIN: Yes.
DE LA RIONDA: And who do you recognize that to be, ma'am?
S. FULTON: Trayvon Benjamin Martin.
HOWELL: Martin's older brother, Jahvaris Fulton, also testified the screams were from his brother. But in cross-examination, Fulton was put on the spot for once telling a reporter he wasn't positive about who was screaming, only later to conclude it was Trayvon Martin.
For most of day nine, jurors listened to the medical examiner who did the autopsy on Martin.
DR. SHIPING BAO, MEDICAL EXAMINER: I believe he was alive for one to 10 minutes after he was shot.
HOWELL: But when challenged by the defense, Dr. Shiping Bao admitted he only recently reached that opinion. Just three weeks earlier, he said he thought martin was alive only one to three minutes after the shooting. Defense attorneys also pointed out how Bao's team may have mishandled and even damaged some evidence. When asked to recall specifics about the autopsy, there was this.
BAO: I do not have any recall. I do not have any memory of the day of autopsy.
HOWELL: Attorney Mark O'Mara asked the judge to acquit his client after the state rested its case, arguing prosecutors had not proved second degree murder.
Judge Debra Nelson denied that motion.
JUDGE DEBRA NELSON, SEMINOLE COUNTY CIRCUIT COURT: Motion for acquittal denied.
HOWELL: Putting the defense on deck as this trial moves into week three.
HOWELL: And as we launch into week three, we expect to see more family and friends. We could see Chris Serino, that he lead investigator for the Sanford Police Department, recalled to testify, and we could hear from a forensic pathologist, Chris and Kate, who is considered an expert in that field.
CUOMO: All right. George, thank you very much.
Remember investigator Serino was one of the people in the case early on when they decided not to charge Zimmerman with anything, so the defense would try to go back at that point in the investigation. BOLDUAN: A lot more to talk about this week in that trial, that's for sure.
There's also a new tropical storm to talk about brewing in the Atlantic headed for the Caribbean. Let's get to Chad Myers in the weather center with the latest on this.
So, what are we looking at? What is its trajectory?
CHAD MYERS, AMS METEOROLOGIST: Well, eventually to Martinique, maybe toward Dominica. But I'll tell you what? July 9th -- an important in weather -- that's the first named storm on average.
Where are we now? Chantal, that's the third named storm. This is the third named storm already, expecting an above normal year, already getting an above normal start.
Here are the Leeward Island, here's the Windward Island, and here's Dominica and Martinique right through here. Expect that big storm to almost be a 50 or 60 mile an hour storm as it approaches the mountains.
Did you see that wave? Did you see that wave come? We did the wave on NEW DAY right here.
CUOMO: Very good.
BOLDUAN: It's very important.
MYERS: It comes in, still 65 miles per hour.
Now, it matters where this is on the map. If we're on the south side of the cone, the storm gets stronger, the water's warmer, and it's not affected here up by the mountains here of Haiti, the D.R., and also of Cuba. If it's a little bit further to the east, kind of brushing the Turks and Caicos. It heads out to the ocean.
We don't know yet because the models don't know yet. Literally, these are the spaghetti lines. Some models are to the left, some models to the right. We'll see where it goes in the next couple of years.
The third storm of the year. The first hurricane shouldn't happen for another month. This has the potential, some pretty warm water right now, and it's on its way.
You know, as the summer gets bigger, the summer gets hotter, September 10th, the middle, the peak of hurricane season.
BOLDUAN: All right. I feel like we might just like I feel like we hit summer early. We might be hitting the peak of hurricane season early.
MYERS: Already here.
BOLDUAN: All right. Chad, great to see you. Thank you so much.
CUOMO: One thing you never want to come early is storm season.
BOLDUAN: Yes, no kidding.
CUOMO: Appreciate it.
Coming up on NEW DAY: the investigation of the San Francisco airport plane crash. Just look at it. Can you believe that just about everybody walked away? Two people killed, a couple paralyzed. How could it have happened? Why did it happen in the first place?
We're going to take you through exclusive video. We'll have an expert here who will say what it means to investigators.
BOLDUAN: Plus, their long wait is finally over. Britain finally has a Wimbledon champ, Andy Murray. More on that in "The Bleacher Report".