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Photos Released of Dzhokhar Tsarnaev; Trayvon Martin's Parents Give Interview; Heat Wave Hits Parts of U.S.; Detroit Declares Bankruptcy; NSA Claims Snowden Leaks Harmful to American Security; Bulger Witness Found Dead
Aired July 19, 2013 - 07:00 ET
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KATE BOLDUAN, CNN ANCHOR: -- Trayvon Martin's parents say the justice system didn't work for them. We'll have more from their interview with Anderson Cooper coming up.
CHRIS CUOMO, CNN ANCHOR: Also the question, Edward Snowden's leaks, are they changing the way terrorists operate already? Startling accusations from the NSA director. He says it's already making it harder to protect the country. We're going to talk about it with former NSA director Michael Hayden.
And we are also going to imagine and entire country gone stir crazy because that's what's happening in the U.K. Still no royal baby. The parents of newborns are waiting to hear what the royal baby is called before they name their own kids. That's respect.
BOLDUAN: First, brand new photos of the Boston bombing suspect from the night he was captured. The images of a battered and bloodied Dzhokhar Tsarnaev released because of the controversial "Rolling Stone" column. But now is all of this affecting families of the victims? CNN's Jason Carroll has been tracking this and has more on this story.
JASON CARROLL, CNN NATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: One family member that I spoke to of one of the victims said the whole thing has been hurtful. This is just making it more difficult for them. The officer who released the photos and is responsible for these pictures apparently did not want "Rolling Stone" to have the last say, so he decided to release the police photos himself.
CARROLL: These new photos showing a much different picture of Dzhokhar Tsarnaev captured by police -- a bloody face, his hands up, the lasers of a sniper's rifle trained on his forehead, a vastly different picture from the one depicted in the controversial "Rolling Stone" cover. Massachusetts state police sergeant Sean Murphy says he was so angry with "Rolling Stone's" cover he released these new photographs to "Boston" magazine.
The police tactical photographer told the magazine, quote, "What Rolling Stone did was wrong. The guy is evil. This is the real Boston bomber, not someone fluffed and buffed for the cover of Rolling Stone." UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I think that's the real face of terror. I agree with him 100 percent.
CARROLL: "Boston" magazine's editor told CNN Murphy thought the cover sent the wrong message.
JOHN WOLFSON, EDITOR, "BOSTON" MAGAZINE: I think he was genuinely worried about the impact on the families of the victims, and I think he was also worried that certain impressionable people might be lured to replicate that by the glamorous looking photo on the "Rolling Stone" cover.
CARROLL: Tsarnaev's first public appearance since his arrest was in court last week. He pleaded not guilty to 30 federal charges, including four killings. While images like these are already having an impact, some say the focus is all wrong.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I think they should focus the attention on the brave people and the people who lost their lives, not the monster who caused it all.
CARROLL: A police spokesman said in a statement the release of the photos was not authorized by the Massachusetts state police. Murphy was suspended for a day and faces a hearing next week to determine his status. And more photos will be coming out in the future. "Boston" magazine says they have hundreds of photos they'll start publishing in the September issue.
BOLDUAN: I'm sure people will want to read and see the photos and see what happens in the investigation.
CUOMO: Got to follow protocol, but obviously well intentioned because many are concerned about glamourizing people who do terrible things.
BOLDUAN: It is a tough spot, though.
CUOMO: No question. Thanks for following it Jason. Appreciate it this morning.
Another big story for us obviously is the heat. We're looking at another day of stifling temperatures and humidity across the northeast and Midwest. The heat wave now six days going. Heat index numbers of 105 degrees expected in New York, Washington and Detroit, but it appears it will all end. However, the end doesn't necessarily mean good news for all. The relief could come in the form of thunderstorms and worse.
So let's head outside in New York where meteorologist Indra Petersons is out there. It is a tough job for you, I know, but make this point to everybody else how just because the heat stops doesn't mean good things follow.
INDRA PETERSONS, AMS METEOROLOGIST: I hear a lot of people saying I didn't think it was that bad. That is very hard to believe. I can handle about a minute. You stand out here for a long duration of time and you're really talking about oppressive heat. Unfortunately today that threat is higher as we go from advisories to warnings. I'm not sure people can handle it at this point.
PETERSONS: Today marks the sixth day of a dangerous heat wave across the country.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Miserable. Feels like I live inside a dog's mouth.
PETERSONS: It's one of the most widespread waves this season, 47 out of 50 states have seen temperatures topping 90 degrees.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Unbearable.
PETERSONS: Three people have died in the sweltering heat. States have had temps of what feels like triple digits.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Tired, exhausted.
PETERSONS: In Massachusetts the relentless heat could force a nuclear power station to shut down. They're worried that the water will get too warm to cool the safety systems. The temperatures around JFK airport have hit 100 degrees, a new record. Three New York City firefighters have been treating for heat exhaustion.
CHIEF MICHAEL BROWNE, FDNY: We don't work less. We don't work slower.
PETERSONS: In Pennsylvania, the heat has forced Amtrak to slap speed restrictions on trains. Officials worry the heat could actually expand the train tracks.
DARYL JONES, NEW YORK RESIDENT: Coconut water, you know, the towel, just trying to beat the heat.
PETERSONS: Out west, 157 airline passengers roasted under the Arizona sun. A mechanical delay left them stranded for two hours on the tarmac.
MEGAN BARBER, PASSENGER ON STRANDED AIRLINE: It was probably around 100 degrees. It was like being in a hot car.
PETERSONS: The heat wave forced many to find a new and creative way to cool off, like this new ice bar in New York city that boasts bone chilling temperatures of 23 degrees.
VICTOR SCHWARTZ, ICE BAR CUSTOMER: It is perfect in this room when it's 103 outside.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Cheers.
(END VIDEOTAPE) PETERSONS: And this is the danger. We're talking about this advisory being turned into a warning. You think about heat being the biggest danger of all weather events combined. We constantly hear people underestimate the danger of the heat. Today we're talking about 105 to 110 in major cities, so that is warmer than yesterday. We're talking about major cities, New York, Philadelphia, Boston, D.C., feeling like 105 to 110, Detroit, Cincinnati included. The cold front expected to move through so temperatures will drop down. It's still going to be hot.
We're going to be adding the threat of severe weather. First comes the rain with 85-degree temperatures. At least that danger as far as the heat will come down we have another danger the threat for severe thunderstorms as the cold front presses in, Iowa to Michigan and eventually see the storms spread to the northeast by Saturday. I'm always the bearer of good news, aren't I?
CUOMO: You've got to tell it like it is. The heat matters, and until it cools off, if you have elderly neighbors, people with kids around you, make sure you check in and see if everybody's OK.
BOLDUAN: Let's go straight to California where a massive wildfire is raging out of control in the mountains near Palm Springs threatening the resort town of Idyllwild. That's where Miguel Marquez is with the latest. What's the latest, Miguel?
MIGUEL MARQUEZ, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Today is make-or-break day out here, Kate. The brunt of the fire is right at the peak of the mountain that if it gets over that, it comes into this town, they are helicoptering crews, hand crews out, into the area so they can lay down and lines and hoping to protect thousands of homes.
MARQUEZ: Torching more than 35 square miles, this massive wildfire is nowhere under control. It is fed by tinder dry and thick pine trees and brush. It is burning so hot, the trees so dry they literally explode into flames.
Firefighters mounting an all-out air assault, helicopters dumping retardant, planes, too, even the heaviest weapon in the arsenal, a DC-10 capable of dropping 12,000 gallons of retardant in one go. On the grouped the fight also in full swing. Woody Bouska has fought fires for 33 years.
Are you feeling confident about this one at the moment?
WOODY BOUSKA, FIREFIGHTER: In our section, yes. I don't know what's going on the other side, there's a lot of smoke coming up. Could be doing horrible things over there, I don't know.
MARQUEZ: Changing afternoon conditions along with the widespread fire complicating the job.
This is the time in the afternoon firefighters worry about most, the wind is picking up and this is what they are fighting the fire in, that used to be a pine tree surrounded by years and years of growth of chaparral, this stuff, completely dry.
Moe than 4,000 threatened by the blaze and evacuations for some 6,000 residents. Bonnie and Colonel McLyman were in Texas when they heard about the fire.
You hustled back here to do what?
COLONEL MCLYMAN, LIVES IN IDYLLWILD: Get important thing that you can remember, family things.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Family things, pictures, whatever we can.
MARQUEZ: A quick escape but leaving so much behind.
MARQUEZ: And now there are more than 3,300 personnel on this fire that's grown overnight, and the weather conditions will change a little bit. Good news, bad news, monsoons moving in which means more moisture, but it also means more erratic winds making it tough for firefighters on the ground.
CUOMO: Winds are just terrible for firefighters. Miguel, thank you very much. Stay safe there and appreciate the reporting this morning.
We have breaking news for you overnight. Florida's Governor Rick Scott is meeting with the young protesters holding a sit-in outside his office. Their demand, call a special session to repeal the state's controversial stand your ground law. His reply so far -- no.
Meanwhile, the parents of Trayvon Martin are breaking their silence with our own Anderson Cooper, calling George Zimmerman's not guilty verdict a complete shock. John Zarrella is covering all of this from Miami this morning. John, good morning.
JOHN ZARRELLA, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Hey, Chris, you know the governor's remarks to that group last night not coming as any surprise. They certainly did not get from the governor what they expected to hear, and that came as Trayvon Martin's parents opened up about the trial and their son.
ZARRELLA: Protesters waiting for three days at Florida Governor Rick Scott's office finally got what they came for, a meeting. Late Thursday the governor spoke with them and releasing a statement after the meeting that says in part, "Tonight the protesters again asked that I call a special session of the legislature to repeal Florida's stand your ground law. I told them that I agree with the task force on citizen safety and protection, which concurred with the law."
Protesters vowing to continue their sit-in now. Dream director's Phillip Agnew tells CNN that the sit-in at the Florida governor's office will continue because their demands have not been met. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We'll take this opportunity to call on all of you around Florida to join us here at the capitol as we continue to press for special session.
ZARRELLA: Earlier Thursday night Martin's parents spoke with CNN's Anderson Cooper. They talked about how they felt the jury would view their son.
SYBRINA FULTON, TRAYVON MARTIN'S MOTHER: I just look at people as people and I thought for sure that the jury looked at Trayvon as an average teenager that was minding his own business, that wasn't committing any crime. That was coming home from the store and were feet away from where he was actually going. And I just believe that they realized that.
ZARRELLA: A second juror has also come forward. He was known as juror E-54, an alternate in the Zimmerman trial, released before the deliberations began. He offered his view on whether George Zimmerman should have followed Trayvon Martin on that rainy night. Not the opinion of juror B-37 when she spoke exclusively with CNN's Anderson Cooper.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I think he's guilty of not using good judgment. When he was in the car, he had called 911, he shouldn't have gotten out of that car.
ZARRELLA: Now justice for Trayvon Martin rallies and vigils that are going to take shape tomorrow across the country. Organizers are saying they will be in about 100 cities from New York to Chicago to Los Angeles, San Francisco. And these rallies in part are to try and pressure the Justice Department to look into whether George Zimmerman violated Trayvon Martin's civil rights. And Kate, Sybrina Fulton, Trayvon's mother, going to be in New York for the rally and vigil there, and his father, Tracy Martin, will be right here in Miami at the rally.
BOLDUAN: We'll be watching those rallies with you. John Zarrella, great to see you. Thank you very much.
Let's go to Detroit this morning where long time financial woes have hit a new low. The motor city has now filed bankruptcy as it faces down an estimated $18 billion in debt. Residents are wondering what does this mean and will it hurt them even more? CNN's Poppy Harlow has been following the Detroit story for a long time, and this is the latest for that story in a tough city, Poppy.
POPPY HARLOW, CNN MONEY CORRESPONDENT: It certainly is. Good morning to you, Kate. This is the motor city, once one of the most populist top cities in America, now the biggest bankruptcy in U.S. history for an American city. The fate of the city, of the people of Detroit lays in the hands of a federal bankruptcy judge. The big question is will this help the people of Detroit in the end? (BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)
HARLOW: Detroit's downfall has been decades in the making.
GOV. RICK SNYDER, (R) MICHIGAN: This is not any recent development. This has been going on far too long, and isn't it time to say enough is enough?
HARLOW: A dwindling population, the decline of the automakers and political corruption are just some of Detroit's woes. Now as it files for bankruptcy, Detroit's workers are bracing for what could happen to their pensions and health care.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Will this affect pensions?
MARK DIAZ, PRESIDENT OF DETROIT POLICE UNION: Based on what we know, anything's possible.
KEN PELTIER, FORMER DETROIT POLICE OFFICER: We paid a percentage of our wages every year into that, so it's not something that's being given to us. It's our money.
HARLOW: More than $18 billion in debt, Michigan's governor called bankruptcy the only choice.
SNYDER: Detroit is broke from a financial point of view. And more importantly the citizens deserve better services.
HARLOW: : Those services have taken a significant hit.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: You call the police now, you wonder if they're coming.
HARLOW: Detroit's emergency manager, who took control of the city in March, insists bankruptcy will not change the day-to-day here.
KEVYN ORR, DETROIT EMERGENCY MANAGER: Services will remain open. Paychecks will be made, bills will be paid, nothing changes from the standpoint of the ordinary citizen's perspective.
HARLOW: Detroit's mayor didn't have a say in the decision but urged understanding.
DAVE BING, MAYOR OF DETROIT: As tough as this is, I really didn't want to go in this direction but now that we are here, we have to make the best of it.
HARLOW: And Kate, many people will say this wasn't a question of if Detroit would file for bankruptcy but when. But you know I just talked to a woman down the street at the diner, who has lived here her whole life she said to me, this is really scary, I did not expect this, I did not think it would come to this. A retired police officer, who could see his pension cut, said to me this is a mess. We will fight and fight hard for what we deserve and what we are owed. It will be a long drawn-out battle in Detroit, and it is all about the real people and the city workers. Chris?
CUOMO: All right, Poppy. I'll take it. They're going to have to find a way forward there in Detroit. No question about that.
All right, we have a story here you're going to want to listen up to. The director of the NSA, General Keith Alexander says he knows Edward Snowden's leaks are already changing the way terrorists operate making them harder to catch and our country less safe as a result. Take a listen.
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GEN. KEITH ALEXANDER, DIRECTOR OF THE NSA: What we had is the person who given the responsibility and trust to do this job betray that responsibility and trust, and took this data. We have concrete proof that they have already -- terrorist groups and others are taking action, making changes and it's going to make our job tougher.
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CUOMO: Concrete proof. Joining me is now is General Michael Hayden, former director of the CIA and NSA also a principal at the Chertoff Group.
General, thank you very much for joining us this morning. You agree with General Alexander and you say there is proof this is going on. How do we know?
GENERAL MICHAEL HAYDEN, FORMER CIA & NSA DIRECTOR: Certainly I believe General Alexander. He was very emphatic, very clear using the word "concrete" should mean there's no ambiguity. It's not just Keith Alexander making this comment. Yesterday the head of the National Counterterrorism Center here, Matt Olsen, said the same the same thing and chairman in the House Intelligence Committee a couple of weeks back already reported that we were already terrorists targets change of their communications patterns. They're not stupid. They know where we are. They're now trying to get to where we aren't.
CUOMO: The perception is that for whatever law Snowden broke in leaking this information, that he had . started a good debate -- one that the country need to have. You're saying the debate came at a price?
HAYDEN: Oh, no. The debate came at a tremendously high price. Again, in terms of operational effectiveness, another high price. American firms doing nothing but obeying American law to protect the United States are now going to be punished economically, internationally, for their participation and it's' terribly unfair. And then finally, what other intelligence service around the world is going have confidence in the United States that we're actually going to be able to keep secrets, that we're actually going to be able to act discreetly. No, this will have an effect for a very long time.
CUOMO: With all of the talk that there's more out there that Snowden released that could do more damage, how is the NSA preparing for that? HAYDEN: Well, what they're doing right now is they've taken one of their very best officers, a man I know specially, offline so to speak, and he's heading up the damage assessment. The first thing that NSA has to do is to find out what Snowden has with him. And very interestingly last night, General Alexander did say that they could tell which documents he visited and which documents he's downloaded. So, I imagine the agency is getting a pretty full inventory of what he has in this possession.
CUOMO: Assuming that we need to maintain the integrity of the processes that the NSA has, is there a way to do that -- to ensure there is never a breach?
HAYDEN: The way you asked the question, Chris, ensure there is never a breach the answer to that unfortunate is no. But certainly a breach of this magnitude is something that's going to have all the folks at NSA and throughout the American intelligence committee reviewing all of their tactics, techniques, and procedures to try to minimize the possibility of this happening again.
But, Chris, doing it in a way that we don't turn ourselves into the East German Stasi with half of our workforce reporting on the other half of our workforce.
CUOMO: That's very important. You have to find the balance between keeping the country safe and doing it in a way where you can have free exchange of information and not be spying on yourself. That's your point, general?
HAYDEN: Exactly the point, Chris.
CUOMO: Thank you for the perspective this morning, we appreciate it.
Lot of other news to get to this morning. Let's head over to Michaela for the latest. Michaela?
PERIERA: All right, Chris thanks so much, good morning everyone. We have new video to show you of a deadly building collapse. The four story building that went down in Philadelphia last month, killing six, injuring 14, a camera on the front of a city bus shows the walls tumbling down. One of the injured a 61-year-old woman was trapped in the rubble for some 12 hours. She had both legs amputated and is still fighting for her life. An excavator operator is facing involuntary manslaughter charges.
Secretary of State John Kerry is planning to revive peace talks between Israelis and Palestinians is going into overdrive. He'll meet today in Ramala with Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas trying to reach a breakthrough before flying back to the U.S. He met earlier today with the Palestinian's chief negotiator.
Two vacancies in President Obama's cabinet now filled. Gina McCarthy, confirmed Thursday by the Senate to become the administrator of the Environmental Protection Agency. The vote was 50-40. And Thomas Perez is the new Labor Department chief. The Senate approving his nomination along party lines, 54-46. Birthday celebrations across South Africa as former president Nelson Mandela marked his 95th birthday. Mandela remains inside a Pretoria hospital where he's recovering from a lung perfection. That did not stop South Africans from paying tribute to Madiba with songs and acts of community service in his honor. South African President Jacob Zuma says Mandela's condition is steadily improving.
All right. You know we like animal videos here, don't you? You've picked up on that. How about this raccoon? What do you think it's up to? Can't be any good, right? Watch as it muscles into a group of cats eating in their garage. It's so weird to me that the cats don't freak out, it's all peaceful until he realizes he's overstaying his welcome. The person shooting the video tries to scare him away, but watch him run. He runs, you have to watch this. Watch this next video he uses his little hands, let me grab just one more mittful, and then he runs away on his back feet! That's so creepy.
CUOMO: First of all they have thumbs, and I'll tell you what. You know what those cats know? You mess with a raccoon you lose.
PERIERA: I would have thought they would have fled.
BOLDUAN: He or she.
CUOMO: I bet you they know that raccoon.
I'll tell you why I say that. Because as one who is under siege by raccoons at their house.
PERIERA: Okay, I though you were trying to equate Kate and I to raccoons.
CUOMO: Please. I would much prefer raccoons. What I'm saying is that they are no joke. They come right in. They'll look you in the eye as they are going through your garbage. Like yeah that's right. You should make pasta more often.
PERIERA: No red sauce nest time..
CUOMO: I know every everybody loves them. But they can be tough.
CUOMO: This thing should be bussing right now.
CUOMO: Coming up on NEW DAY, this is a very interesting story we're telling. There's Whitey Bulger, right? Renowned mobster now on trial. One of the witnesses in the trial turns up dead. Question is, what happened to him?
BOLDUAN: And you heard it here exclusively on NEW DAY, a paternity test proves a Tennessee Congressman is not the father of the model that he has been talking to on Twitter. He thought she was his daughter, she thought he was her father. Well, the story doesn't end there.
BOLDUAN: Welcome back to NEW DAY, everyone. In Boston, police have a brand new mob mystery on their hands. A man who was at one point supposed to testify against the infamous mob boss James "Whitey" Bulger has turned up dead and everyone wants to know if that man was murdered.
Susan Candiotti is live in Boston. Quite a twist, Candy -- Susan.
SUSAN CANDIOTTI, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Hi, good morning to you. We're hearing all kinds of things about organized crime, gruesome mob hits, all types of compelling testimony during the trial of Whitey Bulger. Now something that happened outside the courtroom has everyone buzzing.
CANDIOTTI: A day after learning he was dropped from the prosecution witness list Steven Rakes is found dead. A jogger discovering his body by the side of the road, about 30 miles from his home. Rake's mysterious death, a shock at the height of the trial of Boston's notorious crime boss, James, "Whitey" Bulger. 59-year-old Rakes, nicknamed "Stippo" was a regular at Bulger's trial. For years he contended Bulger and his gang stole his south Boston liquor store and took it over as a mob headquarters, and said it again last week.
STEVEN RAKES, WITNESS: My liquor store was never for sale. Never, never, never.
CANDIOTTI: During a nearly 20-year reign of terror, from the '70s to the '90sm Bulger ruled the streets of south Boston. Testimony shows he was also an FBI informant during those years, working with a corrupt FBI agent. A 32-count indictment against him included 19 murders/ One of those murders was Steven Davis' sister. He last saw Rakes Tuesday after Rakes was dropped from the government's witness list.
STEVE DAVIS, FRIEND OF DECEASED: This here seems reflecting back to the late '70s early '80s, when people were getting killed, a rat, someone going to testify, or do this, bang! And they wind up getting killed or disappear or something.
CANDIOTTI: Investigators say there are no signs of obvious trauma in Rakes' death. Some media reports have suggested suicide. Davis isn't buying it.
Is there any way this could be suicide?
DAVIS: 110 percent no.
CANDIOTTI: So with no obvious signs of trauma, investigators are waiting for the results of toxicology tests to try to explain what happened to a man whose 30-year dream of testifying against Whitey Bulger was cut short by prosecutors just before he had a chance to testify. Chris and Kate?
BOLDUAN: Susan thanks so much.
CUOMO: Some twist in that story.
Coming up after the break, we have another twist in the -- the latest in the story of a Congressman who said his swimsuit model was his long-lost daughter. We had an exclusive yesterday. A DNA test showing he actually isn't her father. Now, just wait until you head what he's saying about it now.
BOLDUAN: Where the royal waiting game is on. The reporters camped outside the hospital where the royal baby is expected to be born, but could the Duchess of Cambridge give them the split?
CUOMO: The story was over for me after your special last night because it was so complete. It's so good, I need to know nothing else.
BOLDUAN: Well, you compliment me on Friday.