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New Photos of Boston Bombing Suspect; Heat Wave Rolls On; Fighting the Mountain Fire; Lea Remini Leaves Church Of Scientology
Aired July 19, 2013 - 08:00 ET
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CHRIS CUOMO, CNN ANCHOR: Your NEW DAY continues right now.
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SYBRINA FULTON, TRAYVON MARTIN'S MOTHER: They didn't see Trayvon as their son. They didn't see Trayvon as just a human being, that was minding his own business.
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ANNOUNCER: This is NEW DAY with Chris Cuomo, Kate Bolduan and Michaela Pereira.
KATE BOLDUAN, CNN ANCHOR: Good morning. And welcome back to NEW DAY, everyone.
It is Friday -- yay -- July 19th, 8:00 in the East. I'm Kate Bolduan.
CUOMO: And I'm Chris Cuomo here as always with our news anchor, Michaela Pereira.
PERERIA: Good morning. We do love Fridays.
CUOMO: Good to see you, TGIF to all of you.
Coming up this hour: the heat wave broiling the nation. The good news may finally be about to break. OK, the bad news is it may break in the form of dangerous storms. We'll tell you what you need to know for your weekend.
BOLDUAN: And we also have a lot going on in politics. Battles over stand your ground laws, as well as Republicans not letting up on trying to repeal Obamacare. Two of the biggest names in politics here to talk about it all, Newt Gingrich, Stephanie Cutter, the new hosts of "CROSSFIRE", will break it all down for us. PEREIRA: (INAUDIBLE)
BOLDUAN: No, I just can't talk today.
CUOMO: You just said "CROSSFIRE." And they're like, I don't like (ph) it.
PEREIRA: Also coming up in our show, sitcom star certainly making some news here, walking away from the Church of Scientology. We're hearing this morning from her sisters who gives some details into what happened and why her Leah Remini decided to leave the church.
CUOMO: First this morning, grainy graphic photos of the Boston bombing suspect, bloodied and bruised as he emerges from a boat and gives up -- quite a contrast from that "Rolling Stone" cover which critics say glamorizes him.
Jason Carroll is here to explain who put those pictures out and why.
Good morning, Jason.
JASON CARROLL, CNN NATIONAL CORRESPONDENT: Good morning.
You know, the man who released them was a police photographer. He apparently felt conflicted what to do with the pictures. He finally decided the "Rolling Stone" cover was so hurtful to the victims that releasing the photos was his way of showing the real Tsarnaev.
CARROLL (voice-over): These new photos showing a much different picture of Dzhokhar Tsarnaev captured by police -- a bloody face, his hands up, a laser from a sniper rifle trained on his forehead, a vastly different image from the one depicted in the controversial "Rolling Stone" cover.
Massachusetts State Police Sergeant Sean Murphy says he was so angry with "Rolling Stone" cover, he released these new photographs to "Boston Magazine". The police tactical photograph told the magazine, quote, "What 'Rolling Stone' did was wrong. The guy is evil. This is the real Boston bomber, not someone bluffed and buffed for the cover of 'Rolling Stone'."
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: I think that's the real face of terror. I agree with him 100 percent.
CARROLL: "Boston Magazine's" editor told CNN, Murphy thought the cover sent the wrong message.
JOHN WOLFSON, EDITOR, BOSTON MAGAZINE (voice-over): I think he was genuinely worried about the impact on the families of the victims and I think he was also worried that certain impressionable people might be lured to replicate that by the kind of glamorous-looking photo on the "Rolling Stone" cover.
CARROLL: Tsarnaev's first public appearance since his arrest was in court last week. He pleaded not guilty to 30 federal charges, including four killings, while images like these are already having an impact, some say the focus is all wrong.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I think they should focus all the attention on the brave people and the people who lost their lives, not the monster who caused it all.
CARROLL: Well, "Rolling Stone" stands by its decision to run the cover, saying it falls within the tradition of covering journalism. As for Sergeant Murphy, he was suspended for a day pending an internal investigation. He faces a hearing next week to determine his final status.
BOLDUAN: All right, Jason, thanks so much for following up for us. Have a good weekend.
CARROLL: You bet. You, too.
BOLDUAN: All right. Now, let's talk about some wild weather. For a sixth day, a brutal heat wave is roasting 130 million people across the Northeast and Midwest -- New York, Washington, Detroit will get hit hard today.
But, finally, some relief in sight.
Indra Petersons is tracking it all for us outside in the steamy weather.
So, what is the relief? When is it coming, Indra?
INDRA PETERSONS, AMS METEOROLOGIST: Let me tell you, the only relief I'm getting right now is literally A.C. from other people dripping on my head. And I will it. I mean, it is hotter today than it was yesterday. That means the danger is climbing. We're going to see advisories turn into extreme heat warnings, which translates to 105 feel-like temperatures, up to 110. And quite frankly, I'm not sure people can handle any more of this heat.
PETERSONS (voice-over): Today marks the sixth day of a dangerous heat wave across the country.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Miserable. It feels like I live inside a dog's mouth.
PETERSONS: It's one of the most widespread waves this season. Forty- seven out of 50 states have seen temperatures top 90 degrees.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Unbearable.
PETERSONS: Three people have died in the sweltering heat. States with high humidity had temps reach what feel like triple digits.
UNIDENTFIIED MALE: Getting tired, exhausted.
PETERSONS: In Massachusetts, the relentless heat could force a nuclear power station to shut down. They are worried that the water will get too warm to cool the safety systems.
The temperatures around New York's JFK airport had hit 100 degrees. A new record. Three New York City firefighters have been treated for heat exhaustion.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We don't work less, we don't work slower.
PETERSONS: In Pennsylvania, the heat has forced Amtrak to speed restrictions on trains. Officials worried the heat could expand the train tracks.
DARLY JONES, NEW YORK PRESIDENT: Coconut water, you know, the towel, you know, just trying to beat the heat.
PETERSONS: Out west 157 airline passengers roasted under the Arizona sun. A mechanical delay left them stranded for two hours on the tarmac.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: It was probably around 100 degrees. It was like being in a hot car.
PETERSONS: The heat wave has forced many to find a new and creative way to cool off.
Like this new ice bar in New York City that boasts bone chilling temperatures of 23 degrees.
VICTORIA SCHWARTZ, MINUS 5 ICE BAR CUSTOMER: This is perfect in this room, when it is 103 outside.
PETERSONS: Let me tell you, I need to find this ice bar. It is so much hotter today. I know that's hard to imagine each day gets consecutively hotter. When will we see the relief?
Unfortunately, advisories like I mentioned are now extreme heat warnings. We'll take a look. We're looking at D.C., Boston, New York, Philadelphia, Cincinnati, and all the way now, even Chicago under an advisory but seeing temperatures as high as 108 degrees.
So, the danger is very high people always underestimate the heat. There will be some relief. We're looking at a cold front sliding through. Although it is not widespread today, it is hotter where it exists.
We'll start to see the cold front make its effects, first, we're going to see some showers today anywhere from eastern Iowa, all the way through Michigan. Following that cold front, we see severe weather coming up with it, and then we'll start to see that into the Northeast. Let me tell you, I found out the worst job, I can tell you in the heat today. They just started cleaning sewers behind us and, let me tell you, it was not easy to stand here and talk while we're smelling this. I give it to them. Props to them.
CUOMO: I appreciate -- we appreciate you sucking it up for us there, Indra, out there. It's hot and now, you got that going on. It's not good. But I have to say --
BOLDUAN: Thanks, Indra.
CUOMO: -- the line of the day in terms of describing this temperature is that woman in the piece who said, I feel like I'm living inside a dog's mouth.
BOLDUAN: Very graphic description.
CUOMO: I think that captures the discomfort.
PETERSONS: Me, too.
CUOMO: Me, too, is good but not as good as when the lady says it.
BOLDUAN: Thanks, Indra.
CUOMO: But here's the problem, you have discomfort and then you have danger.
CUOMO: That's why we want to take you out west because scorching temperatures in California are fueling an out of control wildfire. Nearly 6,000 people have evacuated as the fire continues to burn through thousands of acres.
Miguel Marquez is out there this morning in Idyllwild, California, watching the situation.
Good morning, Miguel.
MIGUEL MARQUEZ, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Good morning, Chris.
I have covered a lot of fires and I'm seeing something amazing this morning. There is an incredible, intimidating column of smoke that's blowing up out of this fire. That's where the fire is going to be -- right at the peak of this mountain. Taking the extraordinary step of moving crews up there, hand crews by helicopter into very rough terrain to hope to protect thousands of homes.
MARQUEZ (voice-over): Torching more than 35 square miles, this massive wildfire is no where near under control. It is fed by tinder dry and thick pine trees and brush. It is burning so hot, the trees so dry, they literally explode into flames. Firefighters mounting an all-out air assault. Helicopters dumping retardant and planes, too. Even the heaviest weapon in the arsenal, a DC-10 capable of dropping 10,000 gallons of retardant in one go.
On the ground, the fight also in full swing.
Woody Bouska has fought fires for 33 years.
(on camera): Are you feeling confident about this one at the moment?
WOODY BOUSKA, FIREFIGHTER: In our section, yes. Like I said, I don't know what's going on, on the other side. I saw a lot of smoke coming out. It could be doing horrible things over there. I don't know.
MARQUEZ (voice-over): Changing afternoon wind conditions along with this widespread fire, complicating the job.
(on camera): This is the time in the afternoon that firefighters worry about most. The wind is picking up and this is what they are fighting the fire in. That used to be a pine tree and it is surrounded by years and years of growth of chaparral. This stuff, completely dry.
(voice-over): More than 4,000 homes threatened by the blaze for 6,000 residents.
Bonnie and Colonel McLyman where in Texas when they heard about the fire.
(on camera): You hustled back here to do what?
COLONEL MCLYMAN, LIVES IN IDYLLWILD: Get important things that you can remember, you know, family things.
BONNIE MCLYMAN, LIVES IN IDYLLWILD: Family things. Pictures. Whatever we can.
MARQUEZ (voice-over): A quick escape, but leaving so much behind.
MARQUEZ: Now, today is going to be make-or-break for this fire. There are more than 3,300 personnel on this fire now. And the weather conditions are going to be changing. Monsoonal winds coming in here, which will mean more humidity coming in, but also very erratic winds, which will make it very, very tough to get on top of that fire.
Kate, back to you.
BOLDUAN: All right. Miguel Marquez, thank you so much, Miguel.
There is a lot to talk about this morning from the world of politics and we are all eagerly awaiting the return of "CROSSFIRE" on CNN this fall. But, until then, we are fortunate right now to have two of the new co-hosts to discuss the many political stories of the day. Stephanie Cutter, a Democratic strategist who worked in both Obama's presidential campaign and in his administration. And Newt Gingrich, the former speaker of the House and Republican presidential candidate.
Good morning to both of you. Great to see you.
STEPHANIE CUTTER, DEMOCRATIC STRATEGIST: Good morning.
NEWT GINGRICH (R), FORMER HOUSE SPEAKER: Good morning.
BOLDUAN: Before we talk about the show, we must talk about some politics.
Mr. Speaker, the Zimmerman trial has really captivated this country. But it's also drawn a lot of attention to the "Stand Your Ground" law in Florida, and the similar laws across the country. The attorney general has really stepped into this saying at one point that he's suggesting that these laws contribute more to violence than they prevent it.
Do you think these laws need to be reexamined?
GINGRICH: Look, I think it's always legitimate to raise questions but my sense is in virtually every state including Florida, the vast majority believe you have a right to stand your ground, you do have the right to protect yourself, and I think there's very little evidence right now that the average citizen in any of those states is going to favor repealing those laws.
I think people do not believe people that was a primary factor. It was not raised in the trial. The prosecution did not raise it nor did the defense. The question there was a very different question, and I think that most people are not going to favor repealing the laws.
BOLDUAN: And, Stephanie, why are we seeing sit-ins outside the Florida governor's office?
CUTTER: Well, I think people are very upset by it. As you said, the nation has been captivated by this trial. You know, I think that there is empirical evidence of the states that has passed stand your ground laws that actually violent crime went up, murders went up. And the crime rate actually didn't go down for burglaries and other crimes.
So, you know, there's empirical evidence that these laws actually don't achieve the intended effect.
But, you know, to your original question, I think the American people want to have a conversation about these stand your ground laws and about what happened in this case, and what happened between Zimmerman and Trayvon Martin that night, and what, you know, elements of race and other things were involved.
GINGRICH: You know, the fact is that the majority of Americans, in fact, believe that the jury system works. The majority of Americans are inclined to give the benefit of the doubt to the six women who served in the jury.
There's a very intense group of people who do feel, as Stephanie said, something has to be changed there. They are sitting in.
But I think when you go out and talk to average Floridians, or if you go, say, to Houston, Texas, and talk to people there, you know, it's very ironic. Houston has a concealed carry permit system. They have over 75 gun stores, over 1,200 places that sell guns, including Walmarts. Chicago has very, very strict rules. The murder rate in Chicago is twice as high as it is in Houston. Approximately the same size metropolitan areas.
So, I think you can get into empirical evidence on both sides of this debate. My prediction is, virtually, none of these laws will be repealed and, if anything, they may continue to spread across the country as other states look at it.
BOLDUAN: All right. I want to ask you both about an issue that you clearly stand on two different sides on, the president's health care law.
Stephanie, the president is out touting the early successes that the health care law brought to the country. So, I think this will be the question that Newt has for you -- if there are so many successes, why does he have to keep talking about it?
CUTTER: Well, I think that, I hear you laughing.
GINGRICH: That was unfair.
CUTTER: I'm happy to answer it. He has to talk about it for several reasons.
Number one, when the nation passes laws like this, which we are putting fundamental change into the marketplace, it takes time for the American people to come with it. We have seen that with every major law that's passed.
Medicare Part D and the prescription drug benefit just -- you know, less than a decade ago, extremely unpopular until the law was fully implemented and that was one of the most proper previsions of Medicare amongst senior citizens. So, it is going to take time. I think the president's always said that.
The second reason it's important for him to be out there talking is because we're about to enter into an important period. The enrollment period for people who are living without insurance, they're now going to have access to insurance through these private sector health care exchanges and states where pre-existing conditions no longer discriminate against. They'll have access to affordable health care. For middle income and working class people, they'll have access to subsidies to help pay for it.
It's important for people to know that these benefits are coming so that they can take advantage of it. I think that's what the president was doing yesterday -- talking about all that's been accomplished through the implementation of this law. There's 8.5 million people getting rebates in the mail this month because insurance companies spent too much on administrative costs and not enough on their health care. That type of transparency and the competition that's being instilled into the marketplace, that's driving rates down.
BOLDUAN: All right. Newt, let me --
CUTTER: We saw reports this week in New York City, in New York.
BOLDUAN: So, the Congress is still divided. House Republicans, though, meantime, have continued to try to repeal or replace health care more than 30 times. Is that not the definition of a waste of time?
GINGRICH: No more than the president going out and making speeches. House Republicans have made a key point. The two votes this week were bipartisan. Thirty-five democrats joined House Republicans to postpone the business mandate for a year. Twenty-two Democrats joined House Republicans to postpone the individual mandate for a year.
Week by week, you know, three major unions have now written letters saying that this bill which they supported is destroying the union health insurance system and is destroying middle class health care. Every time you turn around, you read news stories about people who are being hired only for part-time work because they're being excluded from being considered for health insurance by their businesses.
I think it's this continuous drumbeat that is the reason the president has to back out on the road. And the fact is, insurance almost everywhere. Indiana just came out yesterday and said insurance is going to go up dramatically under Obamacare.
BOLDUAN: All right. I think this is definitely going to be one of the key topics when "Crossfire" finally makes it back to the big screen. Thank you, guys. It's great to see you. Have a wonderful weekend. To remind all of you, Newt and Stephanie, of course, are part of the team for the new "Crossfire" starting this fall right here on CNN -- Chris
CUOMO: All right. A lot of news happening right now. Let's get right to Michaela -- Michaela.
PEREIRA: All right. Let's do it. Detroit has filed for bankruptcy protection becoming the largest city in U.S. history to go belly up as it faces an estimated debt of more than $18 billion. The biggest chunk of that is the cost of benefits for retired city workers. They'll likely see smaller pension checks.
Florida teenager now charged with trying to become a terrorist. This is him. Prosecutors say this young man, 19-year-old, Shelton Thomas Bell (ph) flew to Jordan, tried to get recruited by al Qaeda. He's also said to have trained with guns and made bizarre videos to recruit other wanna be terrorists. The two federal terrorism charges he faces carry a maximum penalty of 15 years each.
A Texas man under arrest after police say he was caught pulling out of pistol near the White House. Police say Christopher Wade Briggs of San Antonio had a bullet in the chamber of a gun when he was picked up Tuesday at Washington's Layayette Park. A search of his backpack turned up 171 rounds and two more ammo clips. He was also said to be carrying two hunting knives. Briggs told police "I was only going to fire a couple of shots if no one confronted me."
The New Jersey Supreme Court says police need to get a search warrant before obtaining tracking information from cell phone providers. The use of such data has become routine among law enforcement agencies nationwide. Several states and Congress are now considering making search warrants required before investigators can gain access to that information.
And, you know, Barbie better watch her back. The dolls of Monster High are breathing down her neck. Barbie still the best-selling doll in the world, but the Monster High dolls inspired by horror movies and all of the thing are right behind her in second place. The Ghoulish doll line also made Mattel is one of the fastest growing brands in the toy industry. Draculora, Gulia, and Claw-dine, a werewolf. You all right?
CUOMO: It's pain. It's pain in my wallet.
PEREIRA: Oh, yes. No, you've got two girls at home.
CUOMO: Here it comes. One day, they're watching the show. I want, I want.
BOLDUAN: All right. Michaela, thanks so much.
PEREIRA: My pleasure.
BOLDUAN: Coming up next on NEW DAY, Trayvon Martin's parents, they're clearly very not -- very unhappy about George Zimmerman's acquittal and they say they were hit with complete shock when a juror talked about how the jury reached the not guilty verdict.
CUOMO: Plus, the "King of Queens" star, Leah Remini, she's on the outs with scientology. We're going to talk somebody who understands what that process is like and the difficulty they can come along with it. It's an interesting story. We'll tell you what she has to say.
BOLDUAN: Actress, Leah Remini, recently left the Church of Scientology, and we're finding out what may have led to that split. Pamela Brown has more on this story. Good morning, Pamela. PAMELA BROWN, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Good morning to you, Kate. That's right, "King of Queens" star, Leah Remini, a long-time member of the Church of Scientology, announced earlier this month that she's leaving the church after 30 years of membership. Since parting ways, Remini has been laying low, but the actress' sister, Nicole, is speaking out defending her sister's decision in an exclusive interview with my talk radio.
BROWN (voice-over): TV start turned talk show host, Leah Remini, has never been once to mince words.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: She's like no, you aint.
BROWN: But she's been uncharacteristically quiet ever since leaving the Church of Scientology. Now, her sister, Nicole, who also left the church is speaking out about the headline making split and how she says the church is fighting back.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: We have been involved in scientology for 30, 35 years of our life. So, you could imagine the circle of friends that my mother has, my sister has. They literally have pulled in these people and told them they had to choose between relationships with my sister and my mother or the church. I'm going to tell you, these people chose the church.
BROWN: In an interview with my talk radio in Minneapolis, St. Paul, Nicole says her sister's problems with scientology all started at Tom Cruise and Katie Holmes wedding when she asked the head of the church, David Miscavige, of the whereabouts of his wife, Shellie.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: And that's part of the reason that Leah started questioning things. So, like, where is his wife?
BROWN: And according to Nicole, that question led to others and ultimately to Leah leaving scientology.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: You're teaching your parishioners about morals and integrity, but then, you have the audacity to tell them -- you have to betray your own integrity and you have to go with us so you're out, too.
BROWN: Leah Remini has only released this cryptic statement saying, "I wish to share my sincere and heartfelt appreciation for the overwhelming, positive response I have received."
The Church of Scientology provided a statement to CNN that says in part, "The church respects the privacy of parishioners. We do not believe in individual's private spiritual matter should be exploited for personal gain by a handful of self-promoters who surface to spout the same tired tabloid myths.
BROWN (on-camera): And, also, in the statement to CNN, the Church of Scientology says that Miss Miscavige is doing fine and still actively engagement with the church saying, "As for the specific allegations regarding Shellie, they're insulting and offensive." Miss Miscavige continues her work in a church, as she always has -- Chris.
CUOMO: All right. Thanks, Pamela. Appreciate it very much.
Joining me right now from Boston is someone who knows the struggles of leaving the Church of Scientology firsthand, Nancy Many. She's the former president of Celebrity Center International at the Church of Scientology and author of "My Billion-Year Contract," memoir of a former scientologist. Thanks for being here, Nancy. Appreciate it. Let's begin with what your take is of why Leah Remini left the church and what will happen now?
NANCY MANY, FORMER PRESIDENT OF CELEBRITY CENTER INTERNATIONAL: What's been expressed by both her sister and by friends close to her is her leaving the church didn't stress on to the spiritual matters, but more on the organizational structure and their policy of disconnection. Which even though scientology still denies it, it does happen.
And unlike Lisa Marie, Leah made sure that her scientology family was on board with her before she made this move and that's very important, because while she's losing friends left and right, she has her family. She has her mother and Lisa Marie, well, Priscilla hasn't left. But she's in a very tough position.
CUOMO: I want to talk about why it is typical, but just to be clear on this, the why she left -- do you have any particular insight into whether or not Leah Remini's questions about the church were substantiated? Do you know anything about this?
MANY: Well, I do know Shellie Miscavige has not been seen since 2006, right before Tom Cruise's wedding. And Leah, herself, signed a contract (ph), and she was involved in that inside, inside organization for over a year. And within that, they do have a rehabilitation force which her sister and herself were threatened with being sent to.
And that is where people are kept 24/7, being watched and monitored. And, nowadays, some people have been left there for eight years, 10 years. Now, Shellie is only nine years. So, maybe we won't hear from her for a while.
CUOMO: Well, to the uninitiated, a lot of this is very bizarre. There's one thing that fuels the intrigue about scientology. Disconnect, the sea (ph) organization, the rehabilitation, and these are all very foreign concept but they all wind up connecting with one main question. How does the church maintain this level of power over people and their personal relationships?
MANY: This is a very high-control group. And I say that in regards to members report on other members. In fact, this recent thing with David Miscavige came about when Leah confided in a very, very close personal friend her concerns. But her close, personal friend was also a scientologist, and as such, scientology has a policy that she was to report this, which she did. She wrote a report on her private conversation with Leah expressing her personal doubts.
CUOMO: So, they had their falling out. Leah decides to leave the church. Doesn't it just end there? What's the concern going forward?
MANY: The concern going forward is Nicole was in an interview with Tony Ortega yesterday and she got a text from a very, very old friend who had been extremely active in scientology. She was being ordered to come in to the Celebrity Center International where her daughter works.
The threat being that if this woman did not disconnect from Leah and Nicole, she might not be speaking to her daughter any more. Disconnection is very common practice.
CUOMO: And it's an enforceable power. If they say they're going to disconnect from you, what happens?
MANY: It happens. Yes. One woman, in fact, her son was disconnected from her because he remained in the church. He died, and they did not allow his mother to view his body. That's how powerful it goes.
CUOMO: Well, it's certainly bizarre to hear when you don't understand the workings of it. That's for sure. Ms. Many, thank you very much, Nancy, for giving us this insight. I appreciate it very much.
MANY: Thank you, Chris. Yes. Thank you, Chris.
CUOMO: All right. Kate, over to you.
BOLDUAN: All right. Thanks, Chris.
Coming up next on NEW DAY, Trayvon Martin's parents say they are deeply troubled George Zimmerman could get his gun back. We're going to have more from their revealing interview, talking about their son's killer.
Also coming up, our friend and CNN anchor, Zoraida Sambolin, made the very difficult decision to undergo a double mastectomy. So -- and she's talked very publicly about that. We're going to go live to Chicago to get an update from her. We can't wait to see her.