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Surgical Safety; Human Factor; Denzel Back on the Big Screen; Family Vaction like Real-Life Griswolds
Aired July 31, 2013 - 08:30 ET
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CHRIS CUOMO, CNN ANCHOR: That's a good song, but I have to ruin it by talking. Welcome back to NEW DAY. Just about 30 minutes past the hour. Wednesday, July 31st. I'm Chris Cuomo.
KATE BOLDUAN, CNN ANCHOR: Good morning, everyone. I'm Kate Bolduan. We're here with our news anchor Michaela Pereira.
MICHAELA PEREIRA, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Good morning.
BOLDUAN: Coming up in this half hour, the numbers downright scary, 1.5 million preventable medical errors occurring in hospitals. That's every year. So, what is a patient to do? Our Dr. Sanjay Gupta is here with a new report on it.
CUOMO: And one of the few stories you can describe with just one word -- Denzel. And there he is.
BOLDUAN: That sounded like two.
CUOMO: Well, Denzel is a word.
BOLDUAN: I know, I was (INAUDIBLE).
CUOMO: He was operative language up until Colin (ph) and then Denzel. Oscar winner, we know that. He's now going to hit Broadway. He's got a new movie. It's a comedy. That's new for him. He will talk about all of it with us, hopefully.
First, though, five things that you just must know for your NEW DAY.
PEREIRA: Oh, it is a happy day.
CUOMO: And only one person has them, Michaela Pereira.
PEREIRA: For your new day. Let's start.
Number one. Health officials - this is icky -- in two states now believe tainted bagged salad the cause of that mysterious stomach bug. More than 400 people have been sickened in 15 states since June.
The sentencing phase for Army Private Bradley Manning begins today. A judge found him not guilty Tuesday of aiding the enemy. However, found that he was guilty of 20 other charges under the Espionage Act.
President Obama preparing to make a rare visit to Capitol Hill this morning. He'll meet with House and Senate Democrats to hash out the party's strategy on the economy, health care and immigration reform.
Today the House Homeland Security Committee, meanwhile, will hold a hearing looking into reports of misconduct by airport security personnel. The list includes theft, security breaches and sleeping on the job.
At number five, the Senate focusing on the potential danger energy drinks pose to kids. Executives from Red Bull, Rockstar and Monster taking part in that hearing today.
You know, we always update the five things to know, so be sure to go to newdaycnn.com for the very latest.
BOLDUAN: All right.
An important story for every family, everyone, because everyone, at some point, will end up in a hospital. A new consumer reports investigation looks at how hospitals stack up when it comes to surgical safety. It turns out, not that great. About 1.5 million preventable medical errors occur in hospitals each year and most are post-op - post-operative. Our chief medical correspondent, Dr. Sanjay Gupta, is joining us now with these -- they're pretty alarming findings, Sanjay. I mean the report seemed to try to make the point that consumers were kind of in the dark when it came to surgical safety.
DR. SANJAY GUPTA, CNN CHIEF MEDICAL CORRESPONDENT: Yes.
BOLDUAN: So what do people need to know?
GUPTA: I think that's fair to say, first. I mean I get this question all the time. People ask me all the time, who's the best doctor for this, what's the best hospital?
BOLDUAN: Of course.
GUPTA: And it's a tough question to answer, I think even for people within the medical community. So I think that's why this is getting so much attention.
And one of the headlines right away was that 30 percent of patients have some sort of post-operative problem. Whether it be infection, stroke, heart attack, sometimes very significant things. And it was a question of, which hospitals are these and are there some that are better than others?
A couple of important rules of thumb. First of all, the name of the hospital or even the brand name of a hospital really didn't seem to make that big a difference. Even one of the Mayo Clinic campuses got a low rating by this particular system.
What did seem to make a difference was not just how many operations a surgeon performed, but the hospital itself. Because going back to this post-operative thing, it's the nursing care, it's all the ancillary care after the patient's operation that seems to make a big difference in terms of how they'll do.
BOLDUAN: So you operate almost every week. I mean do you find that all hospitals seem to have the same pre and post-op safety procedures in place or does it matter - does it differ hospital to hospital?
GUPTA: Very inconsistent. And, again, I think this is surprising people.
BOLDUAN: That's surprising. Yes.
GUPTA: You see airline industry, for example, very consistent in terms of checklists and things like that. Not so in hospitals. Not so even within operating rooms.
I want to give you a glimpse in my own operating room, sort of an idea of how we conduct things to give you an idea of how it might work.
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GUPTA: Two, three --
This is my OR every Monday for sure and every other Friday usually as well. So, I come in here. We have our team. You can see the comradery. Everyone knows each other. But more than just being pretty good friends, it actually really, I mean, makes for better and safer operations.
So what we're about to do is a time-out. We've got to make sure -- this is a new protocol -- safety protocol in hospitals. So Carolyn (ph) is going to make sure that everything we're about to do is the right thing and on the right patient.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Time-out.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Everybody, time-out.
Has antibiotics been given?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: (INAUDIBLE).
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: OK, we have four units of blood in the room? We have the aneurism clipping, everything is here. Everyone agree?
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes.
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: I agree with you.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: (INAUDIBLE).
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Thank you.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
GUPTA: Some of that may seem so basic, but that idea of just the checklist, making sure everyone's on the same page, that anybody can speak up. That there's an attending surgeon. But even anybody in the room can say if there's a problem.
BOLDUAN: And redundancy seem to be a good thing when you're in the operating room.
GUPTA: Absolutely. That's right.
PEREIRA: Well, Sanjay, it seems - the question that everybody at home wants to know is, what can I do? I'm facing surgery. I'm booked for it next month. One of the things that I've heard anecdotally that helps is like patient advocacy. If you have somebody that can be an advocate for you. Is that just one of the things that can be done?
GUPTA: I think that's a big one, especially when you're hearing this information, you're at a tough spot in your life. You may not be paying attention to what, you know, is being told to you. So having someone else makes a big difference.
I'll give you a couple of good tips I think that are important. One is, that if you can schedule an elective operation, do it earlier in the week.
GUPTA: Earlier in the week seems to have fewer complications in the post-operative period. Also, really know your own medications. A lot of times you go to the hospital, now you're getting new medications. Are they the same ones you were taking at home? Any procedure, any medication, any test, anything, as if it's really necessary.
And finally, you know, this idea about heart attack and strokes afterwards, they have found in this particular study that using a medication known as a beta blocker can actually help decrease the chance of heart attack and stroke after an operation. You have a lot of stress hormones sort of flaring at that time. That can help. Not for everybody, but they gave some real specific things in this report.
BOLDUAN: Something everyone should know about.
CUOMO: Good stuff to know and report.
GUPTA: That's right.
BOLDUAN: Sanjay, thank you.
GUPTA: Yes, absolutely.
CUOMO: Well, why the masks, Sanjay? Why the masks? If you have nothing to hide, why the masks?
GUPTA: You know, for 100 years we've been dealing with this anti- sepsis theory and it seems to work, you know.
CUOMO: Oh. Very convenient.
BOLDUAN: I think the doctor's doing something right.
CUOMO: As the princess bride said, men in masks cannot be trusted.
GUPTA: I'm going to bring you one.
BOLDUAN: I don't - I think there is a Sanjay Gupta exception to that.
CUOMO: To everything. My mother's already mad at me just for saying that. You're so smart - I know, I know. In fact, stay with us because there's more Sanjay.
BOLDUAN: Thank you. Sanjay's running now.
CUOMO: Well, no, you must say, because we have this week's "Human Factor." Sanjay's going to stay and tell us about Chuck Fox, a man living with cystic fibrosis who overcomes adversity simply by living each day.
CHUCK FOX, HAS CYSTIC FIBROSIS: Hey, babe.
GUPTA (voice-over): Every day now Chuck Fox is beating the odds.
FOX: When I was born, the average life expectancy for somebody with cystic fibrosis was 18 years old. Currently they estimate it to be 38 years old. Last year I passed that threshold.
GUPTA: When he was born, Chuck's parents were determined to see him thrive, even though doctors warned he may not survive.
FOX: I have to wear this mechanical vest every day to just help keep my lungs clear and help me breathe. I get hooked up to that. And it's basically like doing physical therapy for your chest and for your lungs.
GUPTA: And like his parents, Chuck didn't allow the skepticism he encouraged discourage his dreams of becoming a doctor himself and having a family.
FOX: If anything, it just sort of made me want to do it more and just prove that I could do it.
GUPTA: And that's exactly what he did. Dr. Fox graduated from Harvard Medical School and he's been a practicing gastroenterologist now for eight years. He and his wife Amy, they just celebrated their 15th wedding anniversary and they're proud parents of 11-year-old twins, Sydney and Ben.
FOX: I would say I'm the luckiest person I know. (END VIDEOTAPE)
BOLDUAN: Lucky and what a story. What a fabulous story, Sanjay.
PEREIRA: Beautiful family.
GUPTA: You know, 38 years old. Patients don't usually live that long. But as you heard, his parents and now him just say, you know what, we're not holding anything back here.
BOLDUAN: What an example for families struggling with this.
GUPTA: Yes, and doing that chest physical therapy really seems to make a big difference for him.
BOLDUAN: All right. Thanks, Sanjay.
CUOMO: Always good (ph). Yes, absolutely. Thank you for that.
GUPTA: You got it.
CUOMO: Don't forget to tune in to "Sanjay Gupta MD." It airs weekends right now here on CNN Saturdays 4:30 Eastern, Sunday 7:30 Eastern.
BOLDUAN: All right, coming up next on NEW DAY, Oscar winner Denzel Washington is going toe-to-toe with Mark Wahlberg in his latest film "2 Guns," but before he competes for box office glory, he's going to hang out here with us. You don't want to miss it.
CUOMO: And summer vacation Griswold style. This car and the film, it's in our classics. Why this family wanted to own the Truckster so badly.
CUOMO: Welcome back to NEW DAY, everybody.
Well, he's a two-time Academy Award winner and one of America's finest dramatic actors. We're talking, of course, about Mr. Denzel Washington. Back again this time trying to get a colleague to trust him in his latest film "2 Guns." Take a look.
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DENZEL WASHINGTON, ACTOR, "2 GUNS": Pull over!
UNIDENTIFIED MALE, ACTOR, "2 GUNS": Did you miss me?
WASHINGTON: On the count of three, we'll let each other go.
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: All right.
WASHINGTON: One -
UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Yes.
WASHINGTON: Two, three. UNIDENTIFIED MALE: Now you're making me not be able to trust you.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
CUOMO: I know that trick. I know that trick. It's great to have you here.
WASHINGTON: Thank you.
CUOMO: Welcome to NEW DAY. It is not unusual to see you doing great in an action environment, but comedy, something a little new, this opportunity.
WASHINGTON: I - it was something I've wanted to do, you know, especially coming off the movie "Flight." When I read this script, I was like, perfect. Yes, exactly, take a break and try something different. I felt comfortable going out there, stepping out there with Mark Wahlberg, who has done very well in his comedic turns.
BOLDUAN: Have you worked with Wahlberg before?
WASHINGTON: No. never. First time.
BOLDUAN: What was it like? I mean you guys clearly get along smashingly.
WASHINGTON: It was great. Good guy. Yes, we had good chemistry and he's a good guy, hardworking guy.
CUOMO: So how did we get to this point where you hadn't been in comedies before? Do you think that for all the versatility and range that you showed, that you just weren't considered that or we're seeing -
WASHINGTON: I think so. Yes. Yes. You know, it's like when I did "Training Day," after that then they were like, oh, he's a great bad guy and I started getting every bad cop scrip there is. So I guess I'll get more comedy scripts.
BOLDUAN: (INAUDIBLE). You so often hear the question staying power in Hollywood. Such a fickle business.
BOLDUAN: What do you think the key is to this staying power?
WASHINGTON: It's a marathon, it's not a sprint. You know, Sidney Poitier told me years ago, if they see you for free all week, they won't pay to see you on the weekend.
BOLDUAN: That's a good line. That's actually perfect.
WASHINGTON: Right. So I -- you know, I try to - I don't try to, I keep a low-profile. I'm just a regular guy and I'm still trying to get better at what I do.
PEREIRA: It's interesting to me that you would still think that you have to work at it.
WASHINGTON: You do.
BOLDUAN: That's why he's good.
WASHINGTON: You should.
PEREIRA: Yes. Agreed. Agreed.
WASHINGTON: You should. You know, about three years ago I was on Broadway with "Fences," the play "Fences," and we won - I won a Tony Award and stuff.
BOLDUAN: A Tony, yes.
WASHINGTON: But working with those actors and working with great material, it kind of gave me new energy. I'm like, OK, I've got to rededicate myself and work harder at it. And I'm coming back to Broadway this spring.
CUOMO: "Racing in the Sun".
WASHINGTON: With Diahann Carroll.
PEREIRA: Come on.
WASHINGTON: Wow she's playing my mom.
CUOMO: And you talked about Sydney Poitier. We were talking before, you know, Kate was looking up stuff from the interview, that's a role that Mr. Poitier played.
WASHINGTON: Yes don't put pressure on me.
CUOMO: I'm just saying.
BOLDUAN: Exactly that's some serious pressure.
WASHINGTON: That's serious pressure. Well James Earl Jones is the (inaudible) in Fences that I did so.
CUOMO: He is the voice of CNN. He announces our names every morning.
WASHINGTON: Does he?
WASHINGTON: This is CNN. CNN. I have to do the face.
PEREIRA: We'll call you --
WASHINGTON: I'll be the back-up CNN guy.
PEREIRA: There is an energy about Broadway, we've heard people talk about it before. What is it that you love about that venue of live theater?
WASHINGTON: Well you -- because it's live and you find out every night and every audience is different and you get energy back.
BOLDUAN: You know one thing that we've been talking we are actually are talking about this a lot has been what's going on in real life seems to be mimicking Hollywood more and more these days. Multiple scandals with politicians and seem to be ripped right out of a movie script. What do you make of all of it?
WASHINGTON: You know I always ask this question what's the long term effect of too much information? You know, and we don't know. We're bombarded by it, but we don't know. You know, I mean, it's not knocking CNN.
BOLDUAN: Well no, no of course.
WASHINGTON: But is a 24 hours of news of everyday for 20 or 200 different outlets, is there enough actual news?
BOLDUAN: And then the role of social media. How do you handle it with your kids?
WASHINGTON: It's out of control. I don't know what they are doing. Thank goodness they're grown now.
WASHINGTON: But you know like my daughter, Olivia, she'll have the computer on while the TV is on while the headphones are in and she's an A student. So I couldn't say anything but it's like, how do you -- I don't think she could do it without all of that stuff.
PEREIRA: One of the things that I want to talk to you about is that you're a proud alumni of the Boys and Girls Club of America.
WASHINGTON: That's correct. Thank you.
PEREIRA: Tell us why they are so important to you and what you've seen the benefit of -- of having grown up in the system yourself. It's a great club.
WASHINGTON: Yes when they came to me -- I've been the spokesperson for 20 years now. I actually joined the club when I was six. I've been affiliated with the club for 20 years. And it was easy for me to talk about it. You know when they came to me, I said yes absolutely because I can just tell the truth you know what it did to me and what it did for so many of my friends. And it's just a great, positive place that statistics show that kids that go to the club graduate from high school at a higher rate. You know they are more successful.
BOLDUAN: What do you want people to take away?
WASHINGTON: A good laugh which is what has been happening. It's very funny, it's good enjoyment, there are no CGI monsters. You know if you're suffering from CGI animation fatigue. We're an alternative programming.
PEREIRA: None of it here.
CUOMO: Did you feel comfortable at the end of it, if it came down to it, you could take him?
WASHINGTON: Who, Mark?
CUOMO: If you had to.
PEREIRA: Always comes to prowess with you.
WASHINGTON: I told my kids, you've got to sleep some time.
PEREIRA: Remember that, Mark.
WASHINGTON: I know in fact, one scene and it turned out to be real funny when we fight we were trying to figure out, how are we going to get out of this? And I said, just like kids do, let's do this and it wasn't in the script we just did it. We'll act like neither one of us wants to let go. You go for it, you go for it. You have these two grown men. You go first, you go first.
CUOMO: Denzel Washington here at NEW DAY what could be better than that?
WASHINGTON: Yes I'll slide down the steps next time.
WASHINGTON: I'll do it if you do it.
CUOMO: No, you go first.
WASHINGTON: No, you go first.
PEREIRA: Denzel Washington, making our set look good.
CUOMO: We'll be right back, everybody. "2 Guns" you've to see it. But don't go down the staircase.
BOLDUAN: Coming up next on NEW DAY hitting the road Griswold style. Does the station wagon look familiar to you? Well that isn't the only thing this family has in common with their big screen counterpart. John Berman, here to explain.
PEREIRA: Time for Berman.
BOLDUAN: We're all like --
CUOMO: I'm trying to get more pictures of that car. Look at how ugly that thing was. BOLDUAN: I think she's kind of cute.
CUOMO: Not green.
BOLDUAN: It's not your usual music.
CUOMO: I know it's not your theme music. There's going to be a lawsuit. It's that time of the morning John Berman is here to give us his NEW DAY award of the day award.
JOHN BERMAN, CNN ANCHOR: It is a special day guys. You know today we are going to honor innovation. Take a look of this. Does this car not me, that -- does this car look familiar to you? This is an exact replica of the wagon queen family truckster this is a replica immortalized in this film.
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UNIDENTIFIED MALE: -- put up big signs like this one.
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BERMAN: Yes, folks. That film is of course "Vacation" and what happened here is a family from Georgia. A family actually named the Griswolds, by the way.
BOLDUAN: You're making that up.
BERMAN: I'm not making this up. A family named the Griswolds built an exact replica of the truckster and they drove it to Disney World because there is no Wally World in real life.
BERMAN: They went to Disney World, instead. There they are in front of the family truckster. This actually happened, folks. I should note by the way it's 30th anniversary of "Vacation". Chris, you remember from college.
CUOMO: oh, yes.
BERMAN: 30 years since that film came out. What can be more impressive than the family truckster? What could be more impressive than that?
PEREIRA: Seriously, what?
BOLDUAN: Top it.
BERMAN: Look at this. What do you think this is?
PEREIRA: The Moreo.
BERMAN: It is called The Moreo. This was an idea posted on Reddit by someone called "externally 13" and what it does, it's something we all dreamed of forever, right. It separates the cookie part from the Oreo part and it lets you dip the cream, right and take as much as you want.
PEREIRA: Or as little because I don't like the cream.
BERMAN: That's crazy.
PEREIRA: It's not.
BERMAN: I can't even look --
CUOMO: Finally, a weakness.
BOLDUAN: Michaela, just leave right now.
BERMAN: You can have a quadruple stuff. An octuple stuff.
CUOMO: The cookie is strong enough to hold the cream.
BOLDUAN: You cannot have lesser stuff.
BERMAN: you can make however much you want there. So I think this is the ultimate innovation. I think whoever is behind this is genius. They are winning an award here.
I should say, by the way, they contacted Nabisco and Nabisco never got back to them.
CUOMO: Oh my God.
BERMAN: I think they're thinking too small here. It's ending too low.
BERMAN: This guy is destined for bigger things here. What award does he win?
CUOMO: What does he get.
BOLDUAN: Tell me.
BERMAN: Best hope for Middle East peace award. If you agree with the Moreo, you can do anything. You can like fix the problems in Washington. Democrats or Republicans having an octuple stuff could solve anything.
BOLDUAN: You know how to fix the peace problem? Sit them down with some Moreos. That's all you have to do.
PEREIRA: Well, just saying because if you like all the icing and I don't. Look at how we can get along. I get nothing, you can have stuffing. Everybody wins. BERMAN: No one doesn't like all the icing.
CUOMO: Canadians don't like icing.
PEREIRA: Don't make it a Canadian thing.
BOLDUAN: We're going to fight it out as we always do in the break. We'll be right back.
CUOMO: Boy, we suffered through our first awkward moment during the commercial break here on NEW DAY with the revelation about the creamless existence. We'll have to fix that for you.
BOLDUAN: If someone had not seen the previous segment, that would have just been strange.
CUOMO: No, no. It's -- it's never strange.
PEREIRA: Like Carol might not have seen that.
CUOMO: Carol Costello, please take it away. I'm not even going to tell you what was said on the show this morning.
PEREIRA: It was about an Oreo Carol, just so you don't feel weird.
CUOMO: No, I don't want to stain you.
CAROL COSTELLO, CNN ANCHOR: I already do feel weird. I'm having an awkward moment myself. You have a great day. Thank you so much.
BOLDUAN: Thanks, Carol.
COSTELLO: NEWSROOM starts now.